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Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and load.

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Speaker 2: Michael Very Show is on the air.

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Speaker 3: He is not pardoning his son, which he could do.

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Speaker 3: These are federal charges. He is not doing that. He's

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Speaker 3: not doing it because he is living what it means

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Speaker 3: to have a rule of law in this country. And

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Speaker 3: then it isn't I mean, if you want to know,

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Speaker 3: if he believes it, you could actually see what is

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Speaker 3: happening with his own son.

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Speaker 4: If Biden has lost something with the American people over.

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Speaker 2: The last few years.

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Speaker 4: It's that reminder that he is sort of the opposite

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Speaker 4: of Trump on empathy, right, He's the opposite of Trump

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Speaker 4: on some of these things. And I think this verdict

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Speaker 4: their reaction to it versus how the Trump's of reacting

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Speaker 4: to the rule of law. Certainly I think presents that

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Speaker 4: character contrast.

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Speaker 2: Let's go get all that and give me. No, you

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Speaker 2: can't find it, so I can't call then find into So.

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Speaker 5: I've learned to take it well, wish.

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Speaker 1: It just depends myself, it just goes for me.

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Speaker 2: But that's not the way it feels.

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Speaker 5: Joe and Joe Biden, we're so concerned about their family

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Speaker 5: that they decided to run for president. So when you

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Speaker 5: talk about the word selfish, it's almost like the word doesn't.

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Speaker 5: I mean, their decision to run for president put the

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Speaker 5: entire Democratic Party and the United States of America in

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Speaker 5: the position that it's in now.

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Speaker 6: This pardon is just deflating for those of us who

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Speaker 6: have been out there for a few years now yelling

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Speaker 6: about what a unique threat Donald Trump is. For Joe

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Speaker 6: Biden to do something like this, nobody's above the law.

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Speaker 7: We've been screaming. Well, Joe Biden just made clear his

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Speaker 7: son Hunter is about the law.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that they say, let's smoke it all that and

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Speaker 2: kill me the numb if you can't find it. So

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Speaker 2: I can't call just to tell.

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Speaker 4: Him I'm fine and to show.

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Speaker 2: Overcalled and look, I'm to take it. Well, I wish

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Speaker 2: my words.

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Speaker 7: It just defends myself that it just wasn't read.

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Speaker 2: But that's not the way it is.

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump lies every time he opens his mouth.

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Speaker 7: We've been screaming, Joe Biden repeatedly lied about this. This

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Speaker 7: just furthers the cynicism that people have about politics and

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Speaker 7: and and that cynicism strengthens Trump because Trump can just

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Speaker 7: say I'm not a unique threat. Everybody does this if

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Speaker 7: I do something for my kid, my son in law, whatever.

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Speaker 6: Look, Joe Biden does the same thing.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 7: But this was a selfish move by Biden, which politically

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Speaker 7: only strengthens Trump.

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Speaker 2: It's just deflating that that lasts. The voice was former

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Speaker 2: Congressman Joe Walsh. Joe Walsh had his head so far

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Speaker 2: up Donald Trump's. But in the twenty sixteen election, I

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Speaker 2: was worried he was going to rupture something on our

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Speaker 2: future president. He, like a number of folks, glombed on

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Speaker 2: to Trump, I think, with the expectation that they would

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Speaker 2: have a position in the administration. This is very common.

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Speaker 2: These folks will snuggle up to a candidate and promote

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Speaker 2: When Joe Walsh did not get that, he turned on

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Speaker 2: and Donald Trump. There's another guy's, silver haired guy Bill Something,

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Speaker 2: I forget his name. He as a radio program and

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Speaker 2: he was the biggest pro Trump guy there was out there. Now,

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Speaker 2: to be clear, I was not a Trump guy. I

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Speaker 2: was a Ted Cruz guy. And for reasons I have

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Speaker 2: explained and will continued to explain, I did not believe

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Speaker 2: he's turned out to be. I did not believe that.

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Speaker 2: I still stand by the decision I made at the time,

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Speaker 2: based on the review of Trump's body and work prior

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Speaker 2: to that point, giving money to Democrats, all sorts of things.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think he would be the president he's turned

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Speaker 2: out to be. I was wrong. I am glad I

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Speaker 2: to do that twenty and twenty four and I'm proud

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Speaker 2: I'm never going to hide from that. In twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 2: a number of you turned against me because you believed

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Speaker 2: and I believe ted Cruz would be a better president

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Speaker 2: saying that, but I find to be odd this group

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Speaker 2: he promised he would do. But it's not and never

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Speaker 2: was about the country. It was always about them. Kelly

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Speaker 2: and Conway was one of Ted Cruz's most trusted advisors.

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Speaker 2: She has a very insightful mind, brilliant lady, and she

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Speaker 2: Trump invited her into his inner circle and he recognized

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Speaker 2: the talent that is Kelly and Conway well, her husband

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Speaker 2: and he really wanted to be the Attorney General, and

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Speaker 2: if not the Attorney General, then an advisor to the president.

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Speaker 2: And Donald Trump did not value his advice the way

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Speaker 2: he did Kelly and Conway and George Conway was angered

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Speaker 2: by this, and so he joined up with this group

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Speaker 2: of ousted Republican consultants like Rick Wilson, like the pedophile

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Speaker 2: I forget his name, and they created the Lincoln Project

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Speaker 2: and they take money from very wealthy Democrats to constantly

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Speaker 2: criticize Trump and their trolls. Really they just they just

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Speaker 2: want to They just want to muck up the engine

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Speaker 2: as much as they can create a distraction and a

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Speaker 2: But it is surprising to me how many of these

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Speaker 2: people that were big Trump supporters turned against Trump. Oh,

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Speaker 2: he has a big ego. They tell you Trump's had

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Speaker 2: a big ego since he emerged on the scene in

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Speaker 2: the eighties. What really happened is they thought that they

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Speaker 2: were going to get prime position, pride of place, right

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Speaker 2: on him. Well, that tells me you weren't in it

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Speaker 2: for the right reasons. Anthony Scaramucci, all of them, and

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Speaker 2: they sound they're like a a a a woman who's

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Speaker 2: been dumped by her man for his secretary. They're so bitter,

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Speaker 2: and you see there's a lot of them out there.

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Speaker 2: You see them out there, and boy, they hell had

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Speaker 2: no fury like an aspiring Trump supporter who's been scorn street.

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Speaker 2: Michael Bay did show on Bathalump. I was notified earlier

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Speaker 2: today in a listener email. Anybody can send me an

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Speaker 2: Michael Berryshow dot com and it says, send Michael an email,

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Speaker 2: and it said that his friend Sam Minikey had died

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Speaker 2: and he wasn't sure if I knew Sam Minikey or not,

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Speaker 2: but that he had passed. And he told me what

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Speaker 2: a great guy he had been. And I didn't know

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Speaker 2: who Monarchy Mufflers was named after. The company ended up

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Speaker 2: being Minuche Car Care Centers. It's one of those names

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Speaker 2: that growing up in Southeast Texas, wasn't there a Merlin also?

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Speaker 2: Was there Merlin Mufflers? I forget it, but it was

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Speaker 2: know that the rest of the country doesn't have those, right,

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Speaker 2: especially like we had Ecker Drugs. Before there was Walgreens

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Speaker 2: had that funny smell that I loved. And after you

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Speaker 2: some people transition to that and the local shop died off.

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Speaker 2: But it's always funny when you reach an age, whether

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Speaker 2: world that you thought was everybody's world was actually just

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Speaker 2: better than where we've reached today, where there's a Starbucks

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Speaker 2: In fact, I remember the age I was when I discovered.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, the message was, I don't know if you knew Minikey.

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Speaker 2: I guess today, and so I looked up Minikee and

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Speaker 2: it says Minukee Car Centers. Minikee was founded in nineteen

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Speaker 2: a multinational British company, bought out Minukey Discount Mufflers. In

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six, the company headquarters moved to Charlotte, North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: In two thousand and three, they changed the name to

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Speaker 2: Minukee car Care Centers because I guess you wanted to

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Speaker 2: expand beyond mufflers. Minikey became a privately held company, no

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Speaker 2: longer publicly traded, and it went through you know, George

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Speaker 2: it was kind of a roll up. They bought in

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Speaker 2: the Seattle Tacoma area. They bought Watts Autocare Centers. Is well,

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Speaker 2: no Walts Walts Autocare Centers, and I guess they bought

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Speaker 2: some other words in their nine hundred and ninety six locations. Wow,

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Speaker 2: that's a big shop, all right. There's something I wanted

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Speaker 2: to get to. There's a filla named Mark Andresen. He

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Speaker 2: the toast of the town in Silicon Valley, although some

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Speaker 2: people really hate him. He's extraordinarily free thinking, and he's

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Speaker 2: that very few do. Think Elon Musk, He's think Peter Thiel.

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Speaker 2: These are people who see a lot of devils their

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Speaker 2: deal flow, as they call it, across their desk. Ideas

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Speaker 2: they see and hear things that most people don't. Now,

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Speaker 8: this right. And this goes back to the Trucker Struke thing.

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Speaker 8: You don't have to threaten to take away somebody's kids,

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Speaker 8: you just like you thret to take away their insurance.

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Speaker 8: You know, it's trying to take away their insurance. It's

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Speaker 8: not government insurance. It's being taken away. The same thing

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Speaker 8: has happened in the insurance industry. It's consolidated down to

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Speaker 8: a small handful of companies. They're superregulated. If the government

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Speaker 8: doesn't want you to have insurance, you're not going to

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Speaker 8: have insurance. And there's no constitutional right to insurance. So

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Speaker 8: there's so there's there's no appeal process. We're back to

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Speaker 8: the de banking thing. And so that happened in banking,

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Speaker 8: that's been happening in internet and tech, social media generally,

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Speaker 8: it's been happening in many other sectors, and then it's

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Speaker 8: happening specifically in AI. And what you have an AI

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Speaker 8: is you have a set of CEOs of some of

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Speaker 8: the big AA companies that want this to happen because again,

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Speaker 8: their big threat is that we're going to fund a

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Speaker 8: startup that's going to eat their lunch, right, It's going

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Speaker 8: to really screw them up. And so they're like, look,

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Speaker 8: if we could just take the position we have and

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Speaker 8: lock it in with government protection, the trade is we'll

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Speaker 8: do whatever the government wants. And if you assume the

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Speaker 8: government is controlled by, you know, people who want you

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Speaker 8: sensor and punish and cancel their political opponents, that's going

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Speaker 8: to come right along with it.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to agree with all of it. Just

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Speaker 2: think I've said for a more twenty years on this show,

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Speaker 2: I'm not here to tell you how to think. I'm

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Speaker 2: here to tell you to think, to question, to not

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Speaker 2: be the naive neighbor, to understand that there are people

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Speaker 2: with evil intents, but they don't they don't tell you

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Speaker 2: of their intent as if it's evil, they tell you.

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Speaker 2: They're out to protect you from other people who are evil.

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Speaker 2: But what they want, what they want is control through regulation.

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Speaker 2: And this gets back to what we talked about earlier

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Speaker 2: in the show. Today this is Mark Andrews and on

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Speaker 2: Joe Rogan's show. And so there's a couple of steps.

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Speaker 8: So one is you just want a small number of

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Speaker 8: companies that do AI because you want to be able

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Speaker 8: to put them in a head like and control them.

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Speaker 8: So you basically want to give you basically want to

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Speaker 8: have a government. You want to bless a small set

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Speaker 8: of laur companies with a cartel instead of a regulatory

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Speaker 8: structure where those companies are intertwined with the government.

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Speaker 1: And then you want to prevent startups from being able

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Speaker 1: to enter that cartel.

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Speaker 8: How would they do that? That's a threat to the control.

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Speaker 8: So it's it's constant called regulatory capture. And so the

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Speaker 8: way when this is this has happened many times for

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Speaker 8: you know, hundreds of years. This is like a very

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Speaker 8: well established kind of thing in economics and politics. So

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Speaker 8: I suppose you're a Supose you're a big bank. Suppose

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Speaker 8: you're Jamie Diamond, you run JP Morgan Chase, Like, what's

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Speaker 8: like the biggest possible threat of what you could possibly face,

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Speaker 8: it's that there's some disruptive change that comes along that

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Speaker 8: up ends your entire business. You know your Kodeac, you

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Speaker 8: know your Code Act. We're making a ton of money

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Speaker 8: on an analog film and the digital cameras come along

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Speaker 8: and you get destroyed, and for in your obituary it's like,

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Speaker 8: you're the idiot. You know who's Blockbuster video? Blockbuster video?

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Speaker 8: Like that's the cautionarytail. Those are the ghost stories that

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Speaker 8: those guys tell around a campfire at night. They're just

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Speaker 8: absolutely terrifying, and like business schools teach you, like, that's

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Speaker 8: the one thing you do not want to do. And

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Speaker 8: so there's two ways to try to deal with that.

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Speaker 8: One is you could try to invent the future before

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Speaker 8: it happens to you. But that's hard because you're running

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Speaker 8: a big company and you know these startups are out

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Speaker 8: there doing all these crazy things, and can you really

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Speaker 8: do that? And it's hard and frisky and dangerous. The

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Speaker 8: other thing you can do is you can go to

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Speaker 8: the government. You can basically say, okay, we're going to

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Speaker 8: we would like to propose basically a trade, which is

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Speaker 8: we would like the government to put up a wall

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Speaker 8: of regulation. Right. We would like the government to put

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Speaker 8: in place rules right that are potentially thousands of pages long.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: In fact, the more the better. Right.

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Speaker 8: We want a very very very high bar for regulation

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Speaker 8: for what's required to be in this business. Because I'm

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Speaker 8: a big company, I can afford ten thousand lawyers and

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Speaker 8: compliance people.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 8: I voluntarily put myself under basically the government thumb. But

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Speaker 8: in return, the government has erected this wall of regulation

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Speaker 8: such that the next startup comes along and just literally

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Speaker 8: the next company comes along and just literally can't function.

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Speaker 2: There are we all on the show listened to the

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Speaker 2: entirety of the interview. And obviously our format is not

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Speaker 2: set up. Rogans is a long form convers station and

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Speaker 2: we are more of a news magazine style format. I

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Speaker 2: know talk shows don't normally say that, but that's how

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Speaker 2: I look at our clock. I encourage you to go.

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Speaker 2: I know that a lot of people are put off

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Speaker 2: by the length of Rogan's podcast. I've been told that,

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Speaker 2: but I'm going to tell you, if you're going to

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Speaker 2: devote some time to something, this would be a good one.

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Speaker 2: We've tried to bring you the highlights and in fact.

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Speaker 2: During this hour of tomorrow's show, will bring you a

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Speaker 2: couple more clips of that, as well as Tucker Carlson

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Speaker 2: in Moscow interviewing Russia's foreign minister even though the United

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Speaker 2: States government wouldn't let him do that, told him were

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Speaker 2: and Tucker Carlson showing, look, we're in a hot war

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Speaker 2: with Russia right now, a hot war meaning live rounds

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Speaker 2: our men, their men. If that's happening, why is it

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Speaker 2: not being reported? I don't think Tucker Carlson has a

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Speaker 2: tendency over his career to simply make things up. Why

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Speaker 2: would the Russian foreign minister say that's happening if it's not.

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Speaker 2: And let me ask, here's a sad state of affairs.

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Speaker 2: Do you trust the Russian Foreign minister when he says

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Speaker 2: they're firing on us and we're firing on them. Or

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Speaker 2: do you trust the United States government who says no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: Ukraine wouldn't do that, that would never happen. Do you

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Speaker 2: trust Joe Biden who fell asleep with the Africans today?

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Speaker 2: Do you trust the crowd of people around him who

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Speaker 2: pardoned under Biden yesterday after swearing they wouldn't. The sad

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Speaker 2: reality is if I were to ask you who's more trustworthy.

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Speaker 2: Let's leave Tucker Carlson out of it, Russia's foreign minister

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Speaker 2: or the United States government. Well, that's a horrible state

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Speaker 2: of affairs we've reached, Isn't it? Process that for a moment,