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Speaker 1: Football is rolling, and we had the CJ. Stroud Pro Day,

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Speaker 1: And that's why these NFL teams, executives, scouts, coaches watch

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Speaker 1: But you see him making those plays with his legs.

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Speaker 1: Why because that's not their level of expertise, and these

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Speaker 1: I don't know Lamar's mom, but clearly she ain't Drew

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Speaker 1: obviously playing on a team where he's not even remotely

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Speaker 1: close to the best player anymore. Now, you could argue

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Speaker 1: SHOWEO Tony, and I would the most talented baseball player ever.

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Speaker 1: He throws a hundred, he's an ace, and he can

431
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Speaker 1: hit forty five home runs like never seen that before,

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Speaker 1: never seeing that again. It'd be like, you know, we

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Speaker 1: got this prospect in the NFL draft. We think he's

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Speaker 1: kind of like Josh Allen Patrick Mahomes as a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and I would he's got a little like Fred Warner,

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Speaker 1: Luke Keikley to him. He could play defense too, he'd

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Speaker 1: be like number one overall, you know. So it's just

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Speaker 1: I think Trout. I'm with you in baseball. In football,

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Speaker 1: you know, he signed a four hundred million dollar contract.

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Speaker 1: He was already worth a stupid amount of money. I'm

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Speaker 1: with you. Should have gone to the Phillies, should have

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Speaker 1: gone somewhere where his games matter. It sucks he's plays

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Speaker 1: in just an irrelevant organization, an irrelevant team, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what he chose. You know, Aaron Judge, you know

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Speaker 1: Trey Turner. These guys are all signing with really good

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Speaker 1: teams obviously judged in leave. But I hear you. I

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Speaker 1: completely agree. In football, a little more difficult, just because

448
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Speaker 1: your career is so short. You know, you can't, like,

449
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Speaker 1: if someone pays you ten million dollars more than the

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Speaker 1: next guy, even if it's total over three or four years,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to turn it down because at any moment

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Speaker 1: your career can end. And in the NBA, the team

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Speaker 1: that you play for has such an advantage of extra

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Speaker 1: years on your contract. But in baseball, for sure, especially

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Speaker 1: like if you're really good at baseball, immediately you start

456
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Speaker 1: going to arbitration, you become really rich pretty quickly. So

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Speaker 1: to not hit free agency. Mike Trout won again hot

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Speaker 1: take little overrated, little overrated, And maybe some of that

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Speaker 1: is pushed back because the analytical elites have told me

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Speaker 1: for you know, five years that he's the greatest thing

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Speaker 1: since Mickey Mantle and again, good player. I'm not acting

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Speaker 1: like he's some scrub, but I watched him on a

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Speaker 1: team full of former MVPs. It's like, yeah, he's the

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Speaker 1: last guy to one up of like the top five

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Speaker 1: guys pushing for the mailbag. Lions are having one of

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Speaker 1: the best off seasons I've seen in their history, and

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Speaker 1: you can feel it in the city and all their fans.

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Speaker 1: But the motto that haunts us so ol, same old

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Speaker 1: Lions after last year. In the off season so far,

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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts and think you guys are gonna

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Speaker 1: be pretty good? You know, I think as long as

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff keeps playing at a solid level, your offense

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Speaker 1: is pretty stacked, right, I mean, your offensive line is awesome,

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Speaker 1: swift is good, you could easily draft a running back.

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Speaker 1: Your offensive weaponry at wide receivers fantastic. Your defensive line,

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Speaker 1: you know you're gonna have a chance to draft a

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Speaker 1: guy high who knows you could draft Jalen Carter to

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Speaker 1: go on with Aidan Hutchinson. Your secondary is much improved.

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Speaker 1: One thing that's gonna be fascinating though. For the Lions,

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Speaker 1: you know, they kind of jumped a step. Like last

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Speaker 1: year they were competitive, didn't make the playoffs, but it

482
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Speaker 1: was an awesome story. They played excellent the second half

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Speaker 1: of the season. Now with Rogers, we think being gone,

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Speaker 1: everybody and I mean everybody is going to pick them

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Speaker 1: to win the division. So it's not like, you know,

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Speaker 1: we think we can be pretty good. It's like, no,

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Speaker 1: you are going to be Statistically, I think on all

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Speaker 1: these gambling websites, Vandel they have the best odds to

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Speaker 1: win the division. So how they handle that is gonna

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Speaker 1: be fascinating. I'm bullish on him because I think Aidan

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Speaker 1: Hutchinson's a star. The USC wide receivers are stud They're

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Speaker 1: often anytime you got a good offensive line and keep

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Speaker 1: building the defensive line, like that's where you win the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I've heard you mentioned you would go in the dark

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Speaker 1: room Rogers went to. I wanted to recommend a float

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Speaker 1: tank to you. It's sensory deprivation tank you float in.

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Speaker 1: I recommend two hours, and you achieve the similar effect

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Speaker 1: as a dark room. It's quite the experience when I

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Speaker 1: said i'd go in the dark room. It's more I

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Speaker 1: understand the dark room. Not that I want to and

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Speaker 1: probably will, but I'm not going to talk shit about them.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you gave me a better alternative than only

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Speaker 1: last two hours. I would definitely do the float. I

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Speaker 1: need more time where it's just me and my thoughts.

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Speaker 1: I'm very, very guilty of first thing in the morning

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Speaker 1: in the office, headphones, TV on, noises, noises, constant noises

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Speaker 1: I listen to. Obviously a lot of podcasts. You know,

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Speaker 1: TV's are always on, and that's not even a sports

509
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Speaker 1: related but it's just a lot of noise. Sometimes clarity

510
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Speaker 1: comes in the silence and in the calm, and I

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Speaker 1: don't achieve the calm and the silence very often. I'm

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Speaker 1: very I'm very aware of it, but doesn't mean I

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Speaker 1: do a good job of getting into it. I'm reaching

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Speaker 1: out because I haven't watched your podcast, because I have

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Speaker 1: watched your podcast talking about being an NFL scout and

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Speaker 1: how I want to achieve to be a professional or

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Speaker 1: college coach, scout or even a GM. I myself am

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Speaker 1: a high school coach for football and basketball at age

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Speaker 1: twenty and a sophomore at college at I think this

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Speaker 1: is University of Kansas, says Ku saw the Jayhawks. I

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Speaker 1: want to get involved as much as possible and start

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Speaker 1: as early as possible. I'm sure you may know about

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Speaker 1: the Scouting Academy online courses. I'm planning on taking it,

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Speaker 1: hoping it will get me started and learn more than

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Speaker 1: what I know. I am also in a spot where

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Speaker 1: I can be an athletic scout for a national prospect.

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Speaker 1: I d to help me as well. I just would

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Speaker 1: love to get to know in these what would be

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Speaker 1: helpful advice. I can only speak from my experiences and

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Speaker 1: will work for me. You have in your backyard where

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Speaker 1: you're going to school. I went to cow Poly and

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Speaker 1: my career started helping out the cow Poly football team

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Speaker 1: won Double A and not very good. You are at

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Speaker 1: the University of Kansas, which obviously historically is not a

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Speaker 1: very good football program. You've got a real coach and

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Speaker 1: your team is good. I would do everything humanly possible

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Speaker 1: to get involved with the football program, recruiting, you know, coaching,

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Speaker 1: whatever angle you want to do. Go there and just

539
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Speaker 1: say like, hey, when I'm not doing schoolwork, I will

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Speaker 1: help you out. That is an incredible and you know,

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Speaker 1: the best part about it is it's a Power five program.

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Speaker 1: But it's not like Oklahoma or Texas where kids are

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Speaker 1: lined up out the door to try to do it,

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Speaker 1: So you might have a natural point of differentiation. There

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Speaker 1: might not be many on student helpers like banging down

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Speaker 1: the door to work for a University of Kansas football.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I did. I worked for the school

548
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Speaker 1: that I was attending program, and that was my end

549
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Speaker 1: and changed my life. You're at a school much bigger

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Speaker 1: and plays much higher level competition, and as a coach

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Speaker 1: who feels like, hey, guys going places, I love the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Wanted to ask you your thoughts on the Chiefs and

553
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Speaker 1: their wide receiver situation. Should they go after DeAndre Hopkins?

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Speaker 1: Obviously financially they're not paying him what he would be

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Speaker 1: paid I would, you know, are his best days behind him?

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Speaker 1: So under no circumstances can I trade one of my

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Speaker 1: first couple of picks for a guy now who would

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Speaker 1: be on his third team, who would be on as like,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's weird because he signed a short term deal,

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Speaker 1: but his fourth contract, even though he would immediately be

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Speaker 1: good for the Chiefs. I think the Chiefs got a

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Speaker 1: pretty special culture going there, and it doesn't feel like

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Speaker 1: Hopkins unless they can get for nothing. And I don't

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Speaker 1: see why other teams that are a little more desperate,

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Speaker 1: Like are they really that desperate? Chaco's a good player.

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Speaker 1: They still got Kelsey. I would imagine they're gonna draft

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Speaker 1: I bet they draft the tight end in this draft.

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Speaker 1: They drafted Skymore last year? Who did they signed someone already?

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Speaker 1: Feel like I'm drawing a blank it let you do

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Speaker 1: you walk? Yeah, maybe they would take him for cheap.

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Speaker 1: When I say cheap, like he's not a guy that

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Speaker 1: used to not make him much money. And the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: aren't just going to give him away, So could you

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Speaker 1: get him for a third round pick and have him

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Speaker 1: redo his deal? Kind of feels like that's their deal,

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Speaker 1: Like I can't see them giving up their first round pick.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'm too low on Hopkins, but because he

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Speaker 1: is when he plays, I mean, regardless if he doesn't practice,

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Speaker 1: if he's banged up, if he's slow, fucking guy produces,

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Speaker 1: you know, you just throw the ball into his vicinity.

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Speaker 1: And I like that type player. But but those guys

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Speaker 1: you know are somewhat risky, I would say, when they

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Speaker 1: can't really run at all. What do you say a

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Speaker 1: successful year for the Colts would look like new head

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Speaker 1: coach at potential rookie quarterback, not to mention a different

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Speaker 1: week one starting quarterback. I don't know what to make

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Speaker 1: of this upcoming year. You know, I'd say, for the

588
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Speaker 1: last several years, your expectations have been pretty high, and

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Speaker 1: rightfully so, playoffs are bust. He had a roll it

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Speaker 1: back a little bit. Can whoever they draft, right, assuming

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Speaker 1: that they're going to draft a quarterback, can that guy

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Speaker 1: play and show signs like he can be a legit

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback? And you know your talent and your team's

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Speaker 1: good enough that you shouldn't suck too bad. But rookie

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Speaker 1: head coach, I don't know. I would go into it

596
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Speaker 1: like we're no longer a playoff team. Can we just

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Speaker 1: be really competitive and fun and entertaining and find our quarterback?

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Speaker 1: That's what I would be looking for, because it's been devastating.

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Speaker 1: Right two years ago when you blew in Jacksonville, and

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Speaker 1: rightfully so, and the week before to the Raiders, and

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00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: last year was just you know, the year you guys

602
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Speaker 1: got the number one pick for Andrew Luck Peyton with

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Speaker 1: the next surgeries, it was somewhat understandable. I know it

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Speaker 1: hurt because you were so used to being so good,

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Speaker 1: but like, while the season was going on, it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning's fucking next broke, what do you guys expect?

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Speaker 1: Payton Manning goes down, I'm sorry, you're screwed and allege

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Speaker 1: you to Andrew Luck. I think this year was much

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Speaker 1: more like what is going on, especially after trading for

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Speaker 1: you know, Matt Ryan, which was just an utter disaster.

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Speaker 1: I mean it really was. I mean that's an all

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Speaker 1: time we'd like that trade over Chargers fan here, how

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Speaker 1: do you think the Eckler situation will play out? I

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Speaker 1: think he plays out his contract for the Chargers this

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Speaker 1: season after no team offers significant trade compensation. My fellow

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Speaker 1: Charger fans need to understand that all sides are right

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Speaker 1: to have their positions. I'm in agreement, Like, I get

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Speaker 1: why Eckler views himself like do you see my numbers?

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Speaker 1: Do you see how many touchdowns I score? How am

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Speaker 1: I not worth ten plus million? Problem is you're just

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Speaker 1: not Eckler is right to be upset six million. Last

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Speaker 1: two years, he's been leading the league in scrimmage touchdowns

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Speaker 1: by a lot. He's been a productive fucking guy. He's

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Speaker 1: a good player. He's a really good player. Benefits from

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Speaker 1: the circumstances. They don't have any of the running backs.

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Speaker 1: Their wide receivers get hurt a lot. So you know,

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Speaker 1: Herbert throws him ball and he's a fantastic you know

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Speaker 1: we're seving running back. I would I said this earlier.

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Speaker 1: I'll say it again. Eckler can play for my team

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Speaker 1: any day of the week and twice on Sundays at

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Speaker 1: a reasonable number. I could pay him seven million dollars.

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Speaker 1: I can't be paying Austin Eckler eleven or twelve million dollars.

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Speaker 1: I can't do it. I mean, one of the issues

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Speaker 1: the Charges have had they haven't had a big back

635
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Speaker 1: a lot like the Bills. So I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: don't think any team is extending Austin Eckler at eleven

637
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Speaker 1: million dollars a year. I don't think it's possible. The

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Speaker 1: only way Eckler can get the money that I think

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Speaker 1: he kind of wants would be if someone had a

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Speaker 1: lot of cap space and they just give him like

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Speaker 1: a one year deal, like one year, twelve million, And

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Speaker 1: for him that might make sense, but I can't see

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Speaker 1: him getting a multiyear deal. I think Juju and Gasecki

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Speaker 1: are huge, and honestly, if we don't land a true

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Speaker 1: number one wide receiver this year, I'm not worried. This

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Speaker 1: is the Patriots. Okay, yeah, they signed Juju and they

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Speaker 1: signed Gisecki. I know you're not a fan of Mac Jones.

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Speaker 1: I've gone up and down on him myself. I think

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Speaker 1: he'll prove everyone wrong this year and look like his

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Speaker 1: old Alabama self. But if he doesn't, what would be

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Speaker 1: your move next for the quarterback of the New England Patriots. Well,

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Speaker 1: Max going into his third year, so if you guys

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Speaker 1: missed the playoffs, let's say he has a solid year,

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Speaker 1: looks like a poor man's Kirk Cousins. He's gonna get

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Speaker 1: another year and then I think the off season question

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Speaker 1: will be like, we're not picking up his fifth year option,

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Speaker 1: but he's not going anywhere. You're not. His trade value

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Speaker 1: is not much. You're not gonna suck enough to ever

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Speaker 1: draft a high quarterback. I think you're just kind of

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Speaker 1: in the boat with this guy. Going up the river

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Speaker 1: for a couple more seasons, good or bad. I mean,

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Speaker 1: unless it's had an all time disaster season and somehow,

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Speaker 1: which I think is impossible. With Belichick, you having a

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Speaker 1: top pick, you draft another quarterback. But I think Mac

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Speaker 1: Jones is gonna be your quarterback for the next two years,

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Speaker 1: so I think he got to judge him that way. Now,

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Speaker 1: I think the question is how well he plays this

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Speaker 1: year and that will factor into does he get his

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Speaker 1: fifth year option picked up? I would say as of

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Speaker 1: the day, probably yeah, but you know, seventeen more games,

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Speaker 1: see how he does. What do the Packers do after

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers to the Jets deal is done? What do

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Speaker 1: they do going forward? Who should they draft? Should the

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Speaker 1: Packers change the scheme? Sorry, John, I'm from Milwaukee and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure sick of the Rogers news. Well, as of

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Speaker 1: recording this, I don't know the trade compensation. So assuming

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Speaker 1: you know, if they do they get the thirteenth overall pick,

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Speaker 1: do they get two seconds to me? Once they find

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Speaker 1: out where they are in the draft, you know, in

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Speaker 1: terms of the Jets compensation, then they can kind of

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Speaker 1: figure it out. What I would do is try to

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Speaker 1: get next year's compensation because of the quarterback, I basically

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Speaker 1: get one year to try out. Jordan Love, who I

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Speaker 1: haven't read, I'm sure. I mean, are they going to

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Speaker 1: pick up a fifth year option. I would guess they do.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you change the scheme at all. Jordan

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Speaker 1: Love athletic quarterback Big arm. I'm not saying he's Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: but he can do everything in theory that like Rogers

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Speaker 1: is doing physically. I'm not saying that he's gonna complete

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Speaker 1: the passes. I'm just saying, like you can run the

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Speaker 1: Shanahan offense, which ultimately the floor wants to do more

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Speaker 1: than some of the you know, shotgun four or five

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Speaker 1: wide that I think Aaron Rodgers and rightfully so likes

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Speaker 1: to do. If I was Aaron Rodgers, I like being

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Speaker 1: the shotgun too. You know, there's a reading Peyton Manning

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Speaker 1: want to be the shotgun. I can see everything, and

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Speaker 1: I can complete every pass. But I think they get

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Speaker 1: back to their roots of being looking much more like

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers running zone play action a lot less,

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Speaker 1: just shotgun, spreading it out and just letting it rip.

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Speaker 1: So I would expect that, and I think, really you

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Speaker 1: just the likelihood of Jordan Love being your next franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Probably not high, right when you just factor and you've

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Speaker 1: gone thirty years with two Hall of Famers. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you just look the way the league works out. Usually

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Speaker 1: there's a drop off, but the forty nine ers, for example,

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Speaker 1: when I was like in junior high went from Joe

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Speaker 1: Montana to Steve Young to Jeff Garcia and they were

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Speaker 1: making the playoffs. With Jeff Garcia was like a fringe

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Speaker 1: pro bowler. If he can become that, you would fucking

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Speaker 1: do cartwheels, you know, in the middle of winter down

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Speaker 1: the streets in Milwaukee. But I that's harder. You know,

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Speaker 1: Now they have good running backs on the team. They

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Speaker 1: have it looks like good young wide receivers. You could

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Speaker 1: draft the tight end high. You know, you've drafted pretty

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Speaker 1: heavily in defense the last three or four years. Remember

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Speaker 1: last year you drafted two defensive players in the first round.

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Speaker 1: The one dude got kicked out of the on the

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Speaker 1: Lions game. You have Kenny Clark, you have dbs. You've

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Speaker 1: drafted high. So yeah, I mean I I would be

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Speaker 1: cautiously optimistic and just knowing that, like Aaron Rodgers, as

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Speaker 1: good as it gets so it's gonna be downhill from here.

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Speaker 1: Just can we be competitive? Can we compete for a

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Speaker 1: wildcard spot? Or are we like a five or six

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Speaker 1: win team? And I listen, I'm not I don't have

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Speaker 1: a crystal ball in front of me. I can't answer

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Speaker 1: that question. I would say history, when stuff like this happens,

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Speaker 1: you tend to be closer to kind of a shitty team.

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Speaker 1: But if you tell me right now the Packer win nine,

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Speaker 1: they go nine and eight, I'd say I bet Jordan

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Speaker 1: Love had a pretty solid year. And you'd be pretty

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Speaker 1: optimistic of Jordan Love if you tell me he wins

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Speaker 1: four or five games and say you got a disaster.

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Speaker 1: If he's just the next coming of Aaron Rodgers and

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Speaker 1: you win eleven, just fuck. Maybe Jesus was actually Vince Lombardi.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Appreciate everyone listening, Firing those d ms

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Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff and have a good weekend Audios. The

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Speaker 1: volume