1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Why were you two minutes ago when they got to 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: be out of character? Now you're telling me all this 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: because I definitely let somebody get me out of my 4 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: career today. And what I'm not gonna call me the 5 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: unbothered kid. I have to bother ka. 6 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: I was bothered all my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle, 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: pet price, one slice, got the brother of geist swap 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: all my life. I've been grinding all my life, all 9 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: my life, the grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle, bag price, 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: one slice, Dtor brother of geist Swatch all my life. 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 2: I've been grinding all my life. 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: Hello, welcome to another edition of Club Sha Shay. I 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: am your host. I'm also the proprietor of Club Shasha. 14 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: And the guy that's stopping by for conversation on the 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: drink today is a Grammy nominated artist, a multi talented 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: pop culture icon, multi platinum singer, songwriter, producer, actor, dancing composer, author, 17 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: megastar and one of the guys responsible to make your 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: R and B. Isn't dead or isn't dying? O? Marion? Oh, 19 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: what's up? Rock Man? 20 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: Happy to be on club but I'm happy that you 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: for having me. 22 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm happy that you gave me a little bit of 23 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: your time, but I know you visit so I appreciate 24 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: your stopping by. 25 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: Man, it's love. 26 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: Let's go back. Let's get to where it all started 27 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: from Inglewood. Yes, growing up in Inglewood. You're the oldest 28 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: of six. What did Marion want to be when he 29 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: was growing up? 30 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: Well, my mom was a young mother, a kid having 31 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 3: a kid, both my mom and dad. She had me 32 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 3: when she was sixteen, you know which, I would say 33 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 3: that gave me a really big advantage, you know, aside 34 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 3: from all of the other kids, because my mom allowed 35 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 3: me to really just be myself, try things. You know, 36 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: I definitely was interested in sports, you know what I mean. 37 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: I did that for a little while. She supported me 38 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 3: in acting and essentially, you know what I mean, she 39 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 3: just gave me the free range too, you know, just 40 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: be myself. This was you know, during the time when 41 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: kids would play outside, you know, walk everywhere. You know 42 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, you know, you know, 43 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: me as a kid was just an explorer, a discoverer, 44 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I would say I was 45 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: like a type of rough kid. You know what I'm saying. 46 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: I love to, you know, play sports fight. 47 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: You know. So what was your sport? Football? Basketball, you soccer, baseball? 48 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: What was your sport growing up? 49 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: Baseball? Basketball, and football. My mom didn't really let me 50 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 3: play football, you know what I mean. But a lot 51 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 3: of the neighborhood kids, they were on the Pop Warner team, 52 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: so you know what I mean. They would bring their 53 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 3: paths and I was able to fans that way. Okay, 54 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 55 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: You mentioned that your mom had you at a very 56 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: young age. She was sixteen. So would you say your 57 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: mom did she Was she like mom's son or was 58 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: she like more mother friend? 59 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 3: A little bit of both. You know, I would say she, uh, definitely. 60 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 3: As I grew as a young adult, you know what 61 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: I mean, she became more like a friend. But you know, 62 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: she still was a parent, you know. And I definitely 63 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: got a shout out by Nana, you know what I mean, 64 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 3: because she spoke over my life before I even you know, came, 65 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: you know, which was we don't kill our babies because 66 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: a lot of the time, when you know young kids 67 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: are having kids, they're like, yeah, you need to exactly. 68 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 3: But you know, I come from a strong lineage of 69 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: you know women, and I'm so grateful, you know, because 70 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: they taught me a lot about style and taste and 71 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's why I, you know, 72 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: have a big fan base full of women. You know 73 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, You know what I mean, So shout 74 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: out to the ladies. 75 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: But you mentioned your grandmother that I was gonna get 76 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: to that you were very very close with your grandmother. 77 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: How did that impact your life in her passing? What 78 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: did that do to a younger Mario? 79 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: Well, I think it helped me just realize that we 80 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 3: all have a really short time, you know, and it's 81 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: important to you know, love each other. It's important to 82 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 3: have you know, unders and you know it's i it's 83 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: important to just spend that time, you know what I mean. 84 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: And you know, having my nana as a supporter, you know, 85 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: she helped me really un understand the importance of expressing 86 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: my emotion, kay. And you know, she really introduced me 87 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 3: to culture. You that they there used to be this 88 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: thing in La called the African Marketplace and a lot 89 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 3: of her friends, you know, we're in the conscious community 90 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 3: as what they would call it now, but back then 91 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 3: it was just culture. You know what I'm saying, I 92 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 3: learned about you know, can't take cloth and oils and 93 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: you know hair because my nana was uh a hairstyle 94 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 3: and she actually used to have a shot back in 95 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 3: the day. Right, So that's why my hair has always 96 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 3: been my hair, you know what I'm saying, Because because 97 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 3: of the ladies, because of my manner. Yeah, so I 98 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: would say, you know, she just really you know, uh 99 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: poured into me. You know, the importance of showing up 100 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 3: and being a man, you know, because I didn't really 101 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 3: have that growing up, you know what I mean. I 102 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 3: have a great relationship with my father now, you know 103 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 3: what I mean, but it wasn't a lot of men, 104 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: you know, so essentially being the first born, you know, 105 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: I kind of took on that persona and that responsibility 106 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: of looking after everybody and you know, being a man. 107 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: You mentioned that your you and your father have a 108 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: great relationship. Now, I Don'm not sure how much he 109 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: was around then, but did you is there something that 110 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: you felt that you missed? You mentioned that how strong 111 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: your mother was, how strong your grandmother was, and you know, 112 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: being raised by strong black women, how did that shape you? 113 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 3: It shaped me, I think in a great way. But 114 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 3: you know, there was you know that avoid that that you. 115 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: Know, things that only a man can teach a man exactly. 116 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: And also you know, in understanding a woman, I mean 117 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 3: because it was a lot of emotions, you know what 118 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 3: I'm saying. So it's like I kind of got that 119 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 3: too from women. You know, I would say, I'm aware, 120 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: you're aware, Okay, yeah, because you know, sensitivity is just 121 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 3: hiden awareness. 122 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: You know. 123 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, hey, 124 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I could feel it too, 125 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: your feel me wave man, hold on, what's going on? 126 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 3: Because women have that, you know what I'm saying. And 127 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: you know that was a gift that only a woman 128 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: could really give you being around a whole bunch of 129 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 3: emotional women. But for my for my dad, you know, 130 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 3: my dad was around, you know what I'm saying. He 131 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: definitely uh, like I don't want to say like he 132 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 3: wasn't there. You know, he he was able to be 133 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,559 Speaker 3: there as much as he could, you know what I'm saying. 134 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: And that's why we have a great relationship now because 135 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 3: I understand in the grand scheme, it's like we all 136 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 3: are working from a place that like, you know, we 137 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 3: can only work from you know, from what we were taught, 138 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And that's why we have 139 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 3: a great relationship now, you know what I'm saying. So 140 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 3: it was important moments like you know, throughout my career. 141 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: You know that he wasn't just able to be present 142 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 3: for it. You know that that was really important. And 143 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 3: also you know the attitude and business and understanding you know, uh, 144 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: that good balance between you know, emotions and you know, professionalism. 145 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 146 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: You're the father of three to two? Yeah, how different? 147 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: How was how did your father you have in the 148 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: relationship growing up with your father? How has that impacted 149 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: how you raise your kid? 150 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: I think that uh, you know, we are essentially you know, 151 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: like you know, wanna become what we're what we feel 152 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: like we lack ya you know what I'm saying. So 153 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: I feel like it made me step into the role more, 154 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And and again I will 155 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: say that it wasn't that My dad wasn't that you 156 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 3: know what I mean. He was definitely present as much 157 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 3: as he could be. You know what I mean. He 158 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: cut my hair, you know, he always you know, bought 159 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: me things and you know, supported me the best way 160 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: he could. And it's funny. I shared this, uh little 161 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: story with you recently, maybe like two years ago. He 162 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: was like, he was like, son, I ran into your 163 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 3: old coach, your old basketball coach, and I was like, 164 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: oh for real, And he was like, you know what, 165 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: I realize, Like I never came to none of your games. 166 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, son, you know what I'm saying. And that 167 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 3: was really powerful, you know what I mean, because I 168 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: had forgot about that, you know what I mean. I 169 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: wouldn't holding that against them, right, but you know, those 170 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 3: are the things that's like, you know, as a man, 171 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 3: you really realize, like when you have your own kids 172 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 3: start really looking at your parents and seeing like, oh, well, 173 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: my dad's you know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, an 174 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: And he didn't really have this, so how could he 175 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: give that to me, you know what I'm saying. So 176 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: it wa It was definitely a a full circle moment, 177 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I I definitely don't 178 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: blame my father, but as far as me being a 179 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 3: parent in my kids, you know, because my mom is 180 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: such a cool mom. You know, she introduced me to 181 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: all of the great music. You know what, I mean, 182 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 3: my style comes from my nana and my auntie and 183 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: my mom. So you know I I do the same 184 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: for my kids. You know one thing that we do 185 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: when we uh uh cause I take them to school. 186 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 3: I'm a very ye yeah, I'm involved that. You know 187 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 3: when I when I take them to uh school in 188 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 3: the morning. You know, I showed them all right, I 189 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: show them samples. You know, songs that you know, come 190 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 3: from back in the day that people sample now and 191 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: they just love you know, those little nuances and things. 192 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, you know that only 193 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: only your parents can really show you. 194 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: You know, who you actually are. They like that. Yeah. 195 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: I took Mega for his uh for his seventh birthday 196 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: to go see Usher okay yeah, down in Vegas and 197 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 3: it was such a great experience for him. Usher shadowed 198 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 3: him out and was like, we got a birthday boy, Mega, 199 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 3: So he gets it, he's like, you know. And also 200 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: my daughter, she was mad about that. 201 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 202 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, she wants to be Beyonce. Ok yeah, yeah, she 203 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: wants to be Beyonce. So we're working on that. 204 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: Yeah she does come. I think it's up at the sofa. 205 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so were gonna pull up, pull up. 206 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna pull up all right, but you hope 207 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: you can make that happen. 208 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 209 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned you've played all the sports. But obviously 210 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: you you're entertainer. You're a singer, started saying you started singing? 211 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: When did you know you could sing? And this was 212 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: the path that was gonna take you to where you 213 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: wanted to go. 214 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 3: Well, my mom was uh a dancer okay, yeah, uh 215 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 3: she was a ballet dancer okay. And she loved hip 216 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 3: hop so a lot of the times. And and she 217 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: was a hairstylist, so a lot of the times when 218 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 3: she was you know, you know, doing hair for uh, 219 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 3: you know, Kurt Franklin, God's Property, she did Usher's hair, 220 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 3: she did Jermaine Dupriez here. I will always be around, right, 221 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 3: So entertainment was very easy, especially coming up in you know, 222 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: Los Angeles, California. My mom used to work at this 223 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 3: shop call Afro's of Hollywood on a Hollywood and Vine. 224 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: So I'm very much like a entertainer kid, you know 225 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: what I mean. I grew up you know, entertaining, so, 226 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 3: you know, because she allowed me to kind of just 227 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 3: roam and figure out what worked for me. You know, 228 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 3: I I really have to give the credit to her, 229 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying for uh, you know, me 230 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 3: finding my purpose because you know, essentially, you know a 231 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 3: lot of the time, you know, parents they want you 232 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: to do certain things, you know what I mean. But 233 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: my mom was like very much so like, oh, this 234 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 3: is what you wanna do. Okay, well, this is how 235 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 3: you do it, you know. Or you know, you wanna act, 236 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 3: Let's take acting class. You want to dance, somebody, let's 237 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 3: take a dance class, you know what I mean. So 238 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 3: shout out to mom's she she was, she was, she was. 239 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 3: She really helped me, you know, find my way. I 240 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: actually was a rapper before I was a singer. Okay, Yeah, 241 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 3: well I did this song called I Wanna Be Like Puff, 242 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Yeah, back when Diddy was 243 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: really popping, and my sister's father he was very much 244 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: so in the music industry as well. So, yeah, music 245 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 3: was just my thing. You know. Music really helped me 246 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 3: express myself in a creative way, and it also was 247 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: the junction for acting and for you know, all of 248 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 3: these creative things in expression. 249 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: So you started out in a group, yeah, and when 250 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: you're in a group, there are a lot of moving parts. 251 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: I mean, somebody could do this, somebody can do that, 252 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: but when you go solo, you're the only moving part. 253 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: You're the only thing that they see. Were you nervous? 254 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: Were you apprehensive about going solo because you had had 255 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: such success in a group? 256 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that journey was really interesting because you know, it 257 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 3: was a lot going on with the group at the time, 258 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 3: and you know, essentially we separated and it was never 259 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 3: my plan to quote unquote go solo the way. Really, yeah, 260 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: it wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't in my plan. You know, 261 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 3: a lot of things were happening so fast, right, and 262 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,599 Speaker 3: it was like, all right, well, oh you know what 263 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 3: I'm saying, like you going solo, and I'm like I am. 264 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 3: So it was nerve racking, you know what I mean. 265 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: But it was again, very natural for me to step 266 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: into that that space. You know, even though it wasn't 267 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 3: a plan. You know, the universe has an interesting way, yeah, 268 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, I have an interesting way 269 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: of constructing things. And even though it felt like I 270 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: was being ripped apart from my group because you know, 271 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: we were essentially you know, brothers, you know what I'm saying, 272 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 3: creating a bond, spending so much time together doing artists development. 273 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 3: When you spend that much time, you know, just like 274 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 3: a team. Yeah, I'm saying those those. 275 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: People with those guys, you actual family. 276 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 3: Exactly, you know what I mean. So the transition, I 277 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 3: would say was nerve wracking, you know, but essentially, you know, 278 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 3: when I find my footing and you know, I regained 279 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: the confidence because I remember my first show that I 280 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 3: had to do without the boys, and I was like, 281 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: I was so nervous. I even may even shed a 282 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: little tear, you know what I mean, because I was 283 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 3: just not prepared mentally, you know what I mean. But 284 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 3: I stepped into the spot, and you know, the success 285 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 3: of everything definitely made it all right. Yeah, we dripping still. Okay, 286 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 3: I got to work with some of my favoriteroducers, you know, 287 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 3: uh for real Williams, you know what I mean, Uh, Timberland, 288 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like, so it wa it 289 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 3: was a kind of meant to be kind of thing, 290 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 3: even though it was like, oh my god, I w 291 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: I'm not ready for this, you know what I'm saying. 292 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question. So when you say, okay, 293 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: whose decision was that. Did you talk to your mom 294 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: or was it a a manager does like, you know, 295 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: you can do this on your own. Did you sit 296 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: down and talk to your mom? Mom? They think I 297 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: should go solo? What do you think? So? Who do 298 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: you bounce that off of? 299 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? So at that time, you know, it was so 300 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: so much you know, drama going on with the group 301 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 3: and the separation between you know, teams, and essentially it 302 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 3: was like I kind of found out on the spot. 303 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: It was Yeah, it was like okay, yeah, uh oh, 304 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 3: Marian is going solo. I would say. The lead up 305 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 3: to that was on the Pandemonium album and B two 306 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 3: K we all had our individual albums, which was kind 307 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 3: of like, you know, like alright, you know, this person 308 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 3: has this separate fans. Everybody loves this group member. Everybody 309 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 3: loves this group member. So it was cool, but it 310 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 3: was like the idea was kind of being introduced to us, 311 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. One of the other members 312 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 3: was being presented with an album, you know what I mean, 313 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 3: And it was kind of like we were all getting 314 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: in that mindset. 315 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: Of that everybody you know, you see like Jeffrey Osbourne Ltd. 316 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: He goes solo, Philip Bailey Earth Winning Fire, he does solo. 317 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: We see some of the guys that were from big 318 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: groups do a solo project, but damn, it seemed like 319 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: everybody had a solo project, right. 320 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, being you know, the young you know, 321 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 3: the youngest you know black boy band out there. You know, 322 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: we did all have our own little set of fans, 323 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 3: and everybody that may have loved this member loved this member. 324 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,239 Speaker 3: So yeah, even though I think that it was indicative 325 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 3: to groups, like we were so young, we weren't even 326 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: thinking about that. You know, we weren't even thinking in 327 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 3: the head space of you know, what is the future 328 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 3: hole like I want to be a solo artist. Think 329 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 3: we were just really you know, being present, you know, 330 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 3: trying our best to be present because our schedule was crazy. 331 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 3: It was like, okay, you know, I'll never forget this schedule. 332 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 3: When we dropped our album, we did all of the 333 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: Burroughs in New York, and we started in the morning 334 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 3: and we ended up, you know at night, you know, 335 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: doing this big performance. So I don't think that we 336 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: were even thinking about that, you know what I'm saying. 337 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 3: We was just like having fun performing and being. 338 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: Kids, right, did you, did you see it? Because you 339 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: look at I don't know how I know, you're familiar 340 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: with new addition and you see Bobby Brown does his thing, 341 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: and now Transvant does his thing, and Ronnie Bobby they 342 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: go out and do their thing. Did that thought ever 343 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: cross your mind? Like, well, damn, you know, because everybody 344 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: loved new additions and then eventually guys did their own 345 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: thing and you see them, we see them back together now. 346 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: But did that cross your mind? Did you think that 347 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: might happen to you guys? 348 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 3: No? I didn't. I didn't. I didn't know how things 349 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: would happen, especially because we were like huge fans of 350 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 3: five Heartbeats, so that was like one of our that 351 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: was like one of our go to movies throughout And 352 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 3: it's just so interesting how life is, you know, just 353 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 3: stranger in fiction because it's essential. I mean essentially we 354 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 3: kind of went through our own little version of that, 355 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And I think that when 356 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 3: you know, we're talking about kids in the entertainment business, 357 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: you know, unless you really have a strong foundation, you're 358 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: really subjected to, you know a lot of things. You know, 359 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 3: we see so many you know, child celebrities that go 360 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 3: through so many things when they don't have strong foundations. 361 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, I have to again, you know, 362 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 3: shout out my mom's and my foundation. 363 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it seemed like your mom was always a 364 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: mom and never a fan. Because sometimes they can get 365 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: seduced by all the money that's coming in and they 366 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: forget but that's my child, Yeah, and he's going astray 367 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: or he's not getting proper guidance because of the money 368 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: that's coming in, and they become a fan and they 369 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: get subduced to the star of the limelight. But it 370 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: seemed like your mom was always a mom. Yeah. 371 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: And she was actually one of the few parents that 372 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 3: were able to be there because she was the hairstyle 373 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 3: as fuck for the group too. Okaka, you know what 374 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 3: I'm saying. So my mom, Yeah, my mom was always 375 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: with me. You know what I'm saying. My mom would 376 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: always you know, do our hair. So yeah, I did 377 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 3: have that other kind of support system. 378 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: Were you shocked? I mean, you look at your debut 379 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: album debut number one on the Billboard chart, you go 380 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: platinum Grammy nomination. Second, I mean, were you surprised that 381 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: how well you did out the gate? 382 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 3: You know, I didn't even think about it like that. 383 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 3: You know, I didn't even you know, it's crazy to say, 384 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 3: you know, and now looking back on it in hindsight, 385 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 3: everything was going so fast, right, you know what I mean. 386 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 3: So I wasn't able to really essentially appreciate those feats, 387 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 3: you know, I was. I was, you know, built as 388 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 3: a workhorse. So it was like, oh, okay, that's cool, 389 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 3: what's next? You know what I'm saying. So looking at it, 390 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 3: and you know, looking back at it, I'm like, yeah, 391 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 3: I'm like wow, you know what I mean, Like that 392 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 3: was cool to be experiencing at such a young age, 393 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But yeah, nah, I wasn't 394 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: even tripping off of it. I was just like, yeah, 395 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 3: I'm me. I'm showing up, you know what I mean. 396 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 3: What's next? 397 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: You're sitting the charts of the R and B pop, right, 398 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: You're like like yeah. 399 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 3: And also coming from you know, the B two K. 400 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like it, you know, it 401 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 3: felt real easy, you know, it felt like that's how 402 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 3: it was supposed to be, you know what I'm saying. 403 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: Given the success of your first album album, how much 404 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: pressure did that put on you? The second second album 405 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: coming out, because you know, everybody wants to do better 406 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: than the first and you want to prove that the 407 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: first wasn't a fluke, that this is it. I'm legit right. 408 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: Well, the second album, you know, still being able to 409 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 3: work with you know, mega producers like Timberland and for real, 410 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 3: you know, I felt like I was in good company. 411 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 3: And actually that second album, you know, was probably of 412 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 3: the most I ever got paid in an advancement, you 413 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 3: know what I mean, being under Donnie Iinor and Lisa Ellis. 414 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 3: So I was really starting to essentially step into more 415 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 3: of a business mindset. Yeah, and so looking at that 416 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 3: second album, I was just like, oh, okay, yeah, this 417 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 3: is how it's supposed to be, you know what I mean. 418 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 3: And also it was the transition that I figured out, 419 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 3: you know, the importance of having champions inside of certain companies, 420 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 3: because this is when the music business changed too, you know, 421 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 3: after that album, you know, Ice Box still you know, 422 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 3: being one of the biggest records you know that I 423 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 3: had to date, you know, outside of oh in touch, 424 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like when Donnie Ironor and 425 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 3: Lisa Ellis no longer worked for the company, that was 426 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 3: like oh you know that was a big yeah, a 427 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 3: big learning experience for me and also essential to growth, 428 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because life is not you know, 429 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 3: just full of grand successes, you know what I mean. 430 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: Life is ups and downs and like, what's a story 431 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 3: you know without ups and downs? You know what I mean. 432 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 3: So while my second album was still a major, major success, 433 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 3: I was beginning to experience, you know, the challenges of 434 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 3: you know, not having champions in you know, in the building. Yeah, 435 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 3: in my corner, you know what I mean. And again 436 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 3: it was so essential to my growth. You know, any 437 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 3: artist that tells you that's always good, it's like that's 438 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 3: that's fake r. You know what I'm saying. So, you know, 439 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 3: while this that was a successful album, it was also like, 440 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 3: oh wow, I gotta switch things up, you know, I 441 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 3: need to do different things. So great learning experience. 442 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: But it seems to me that you've always stayed true 443 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: to who you are and what you are. You haven't 444 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: tried to follow a trend. You're like, I'm a Marion, 445 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: this is who I am, this is what I do. Yeah. 446 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: I always try to show up in you know, spaces 447 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 3: that way, because you know, we're all you know, individually 448 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 3: going you know, on our own personal walks, and a 449 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 3: lot of the time the industry and also you know, 450 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 3: my peers, they like to you know, compete, you know 451 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But the thing about competing in the 452 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: music business is not the same as football. It's not 453 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 3: the same as basketball, you know what I'm saying. Like 454 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 3: we're you know, or even boxing or UFC, you know 455 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 3: where it's like, all right, I want to fight and boom, 456 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 3: we can shake hands, you know what I'm saying. It's like, no, 457 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 3: you know, whoever's having the biggest year is having the 458 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 3: biggest year, and it's like salute, you know what I'm saying. 459 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 3: And you got to stand in that line until you 460 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: figure out when it's your time again, you know what 461 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 3: I mean. So I always like to show up as 462 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 3: an individual and contribute what I can as an artist, 463 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Because again, you know what 464 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 3: I mean, Like everybody's here to give something different. Everybody 465 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 3: has their own experience and their own walk, you know 466 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 3: what I mean. And I've always stayed true to that, 467 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 3: you know what i mean, realizing that, you know, my 468 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 3: experience is different from everybody else's. 469 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: Did you look across the bowl and like, wow, Okay, 470 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: he really blowing up man doing his thing, and heap 471 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: doing his thing. You're like, hey, I need to really 472 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: get on my grind because hey, yeah, I'm still old. 473 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I've always been inspired, you know, by 474 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 3: my peers, you know, to just you know, keep pushing 475 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 3: that line and growing as an artist. And that's the 476 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 3: that's the cool thing that I love about, you know, 477 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 3: being a musician or an entertainer and you just in 478 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 3: totality is it doesn't have to stop. You know what 479 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like you can have a big success and 480 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 3: you know, you could take a break and then you 481 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 3: can come back. You know what I'm saying. That's what's 482 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 3: different from sports. And I think that that's also what 483 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 3: you know, attracted me to entertainment, you know what i mean, 484 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 3: because you know, it's like the loving the game. You know, 485 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 3: it's like why do you have to give it up? 486 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,719 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? And that's why I love seeing, 487 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 3: you know, people in sports be able to take on 488 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 3: different positions and sharing and helping people. And you know, 489 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 3: Deon Sanders is one of my favorite players. You know 490 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, watching what he's doing it's like, you know, 491 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 3: as as someone that loves what they do, it's like, yo, 492 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 3: you know, who tells you got to quit or who 493 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 3: tells you you can't have another hit at fifty? 494 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: You try to be like Tom Brady, So you try, 495 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: you try to do you be able to stay in 496 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: fifty sixty five? 497 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 3: Well, somebody got to show him how to continue to 498 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: grow through this, you know what I'm saying. And a 499 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 3: lot of my you know, favorite performers and dancers, you know, 500 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 3: like Jimmy Slide and Nicholas Brothers. You know, they still 501 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 3: enjoy themselves later in the latter part of their life. 502 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 3: And it's like, that's that's what I want to do 503 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 3: because I truly love entertaining. I truly love performing. It's 504 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 3: really a gift. 505 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: You still at a high level. But when you look back, 506 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: is there something? Is there one or two things that 507 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: you like? Man, I wish I could have done that differently, 508 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: or I should have done that differently. Do you ever 509 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: look back, although you're continually continuously still doing performing at 510 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: a high level, Well, do you look back and says 511 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: wish I could do this over again? 512 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 3: Sometimes I think we all feel that way, you know, 513 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 3: but it's like essentially it's like, ah, man, this is 514 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 3: this was for you. You know, this was you know, 515 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 3: I look at a lot of the the champions, you 516 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like one of one of my 517 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: well two actually two of my favorite UFC champions, you know, 518 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 3: kamarow Uzman and what's my man name? Out of signya. 519 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 3: It's real, out of science, you know what I mean. Like, 520 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 3: you know, defeat teaches you so much. It shows you 521 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 3: so much about you know, the things that you maybe 522 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 3: need to sharpen, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, 523 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 3: you know, in those moments that I felt defeated or 524 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 3: if I felt like I would have changed anything, essentially, 525 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 3: you know, it sharpened me essentially, it showed me what 526 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 3: I needed to improve in. So you know, while it 527 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 3: didn't feel good in those moments, you know what I'm saying, 528 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 3: It's like, essentially it pushed me. It propelled me to 529 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 3: get more into my craft, to become stronger, you know 530 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 3: what I mean, Because like I said, life is for 531 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 3: the ups and downs, you know what I'm saying. So 532 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 3: a champion is a person that you know, takes you know, 533 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 3: those moments and they continue to push forward. You know 534 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 3: what I mean, It makes them better. So you know, 535 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 3: I'm unstoppable in that way, you know, mentally, you know 536 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 3: what I mean, like nothing can stop me. You know, 537 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 3: even a proverbial loss, you know, which I call a lesson. 538 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, It's only helped me become better. 539 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: When did you become this? Man? I mean, I get 540 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: voice mails from you, I get text and it's always 541 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: blessed day, Brother shah Man, and it's always so positive, 542 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: so uplifting. When did you evolve into this? Mario? 543 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 3: Well, I had to go through a lot. I had 544 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 3: to go through a lot and essentially, you know, and 545 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 3: I covered this in my book Bothered The Power of 546 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 3: choosing joy, you know, this life experience. You know, essentially, 547 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 3: being happy is our choice. It's no one else's choice. 548 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's not you know, up 549 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 3: to any outside forces to you know, make you want 550 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 3: to be happy, you know what I mean. So moving 551 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 3: about the world in a positive way is something that 552 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 3: I choose to do. And it's something essentially you know, 553 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 3: if you if you talk if you talk to any 554 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 3: of you know, my family or people that have known me, 555 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 3: you know, I've always been this way. I've always you know, 556 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 3: wanted to interject some positivity and love and good energy 557 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 3: anywhere I go. So I would say this is just 558 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 3: an evolved version of you know, the lil O Mari. 559 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: You know, how hard is it to stay positive in 560 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: such a negative world, especially now we have social media 561 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: and it seems like anytime you do something good, there's 562 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: fifteen people on there saying you did something bad, And 563 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: anytime you do something positive, there's always a negative. How 564 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 1: have you been able to stay so positive when everything 565 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: seems to be around you that's so negative. 566 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 3: I think is important to be able to recognize, you know, 567 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 3: where you know that energy is coming from. You know, 568 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 3: I think it's important to be able to take constructive criticism, 569 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 3: you know. And also, you know, everybody's not gonna like 570 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 3: what you do always, and they're not going to have 571 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 3: the information to understand why, you know, you make those choices. 572 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 3: So essentially, you know, I just drown out that noise 573 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 3: and I continue to show up as myself, you know 574 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 3: what I mean. It's annoying to some people because you know, 575 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 3: negativity is such an easy thing to do. You know, 576 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 3: it's easy to be you know, low vibrational, you know 577 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, and it actually takes effort to be 578 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 3: positive and to like you said, yo, yo, what up, 579 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 3: big brother Shannon? You know how you feeling that? You good? 580 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 581 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 3: Like you know, that's an everlasting feeling, you know what 582 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 3: I mean, When it's time for us to all go 583 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 3: away from this experience, that's the type of effect that 584 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 3: I want to have on this point. 585 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: What's been the most difficult part of. 586 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: Dealing with things and not understanding why you know what 587 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:10,719 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, certain pain and certain hurt and 588 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 3: not really understanding like why am I going through this? 589 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: Right? 590 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 3: You know, that has been not only essential to my growth, 591 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 3: but also to my understanding you know what I mean 592 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 3: as as a you know, very important people in my 593 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 3: life would say, and also Jay Z said said this 594 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 3: too is it's things is not happening to you, It's 595 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 3: happening for you, right, you know what I mean. And 596 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 3: I really live by certain philosophies and I really believe that, 597 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. It's like if you really 598 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 3: think about, you know, some adverse experiences, it's like it's 599 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 3: information in there for you to get right. You know 600 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 3: what I mean, like, why are you going through this? 601 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 4: Oh? 602 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 3: Okay, you need to you know, think about what you're doing. 603 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 3: You need to maybe not let certain things go, you know, 604 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 3: you need to stand up for yourself. And essentially that's 605 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 3: what you know, all my lessons in life a have 606 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 3: uh showed me. 607 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: What's been the most gratifying part about this evolution? 608 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 3: I think, you know, not knowing how you affect people. 609 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 3: You know. It's been so many times when people have 610 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 3: uh come up to me and they just they like, yo, 611 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 3: I don't know what i'm'a see oh again, but yo, 612 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 3: I have to just tell you, like, you know, you 613 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 3: helped me go through this break up, you know what 614 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 3: I mean? Or you helped me get through this. I 615 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 3: think that sometimes you don't really realize how much you 616 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 3: can affect people, you know what I mean, until that 617 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 3: person comes up to you. And it's sometimes it's so random, 618 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I I remember I was 619 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 3: in uh the UK, Uh, I was in London, and 620 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 3: I just I was about to walk into this place, 621 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 3: but I I wanted to, you know, just take a 622 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 3: beat real quick, you know, and I just walk down 623 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 3: this random, you know, side street and it was like, 624 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 3: come down like six girls and they like, is that 625 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 3: a warrion? Oh my god, we about to go to 626 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 3: such and such and we love you. Can we take 627 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 3: a picture. And it was just so random And it's 628 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 3: just like I find that, you know, when you share 629 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 3: certain energy with people, that energy it comes back to you, 630 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, in the most prolific ways. 631 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 3: And you know, I'm not somebody that is always happy, 632 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I have my moments, but 633 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 3: those moments, you know, definitely boost me and made me 634 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 3: feel like all of the work that I'm doing. It 635 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 3: actually makes sense. 636 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: You grew up in Inglewood. I don't know how many 637 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: of the friends that you grew up with that you 638 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: still currently have. But how hard is it to grow 639 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: apart from people? How hard was it for you to 640 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: grow apart knowing right that the evolution that you must 641 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: go through. Everybody can't come along with the Maria. 642 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it has at times, you know, felt lonely, you 643 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 3: know what I mean. But essentially you know what I mean, 644 00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,239 Speaker 3: because you know that's my favorite word. Essentially Essentially, you know, 645 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 3: those that are meant to, you know, go on the 646 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 3: journey with you. They'll grow with you. You know what 647 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 3: I mean. And I made peace with that very early 648 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 3: on because I started so young, you know what I mean. 649 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 3: I only got to experience you know, a childhood, did 650 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 3: you Yeah, I mean tenth grade. You know, I was 651 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 3: out of school, you know what I mean. I went 652 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 3: to Hamilton High. Shout out to all the Hamilton alumnis, 653 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. After tenth grade, I was 654 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 3: on the road, you know what I mean. So I 655 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 3: didn't have so many friends. I do still have my 656 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 3: my one best friend, uh from third grade, you know 657 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 3: what I mean. Yeah, so you know he's stuck with me, 658 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 3: and I stuck with him, you know what I mean. 659 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 3: So family has always been the nucleus for me, you 660 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 3: know what I mean. So I never had to experience 661 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 3: too many you know, people that were along my journey 662 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 3: that's like no longer here. The people that are are 663 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 3: here still, they're supposed to be here. 664 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you missed out on anything in 665 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: your childhood, because really you have to be a you 666 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: really have to be an adult because now all of 667 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: a sudden, like you're saying, from the tenth grade on, 668 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: you're on the road. I understand you're a child in age, 669 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: but you're really not a child in occupation. You're actually 670 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: you know, you bringing an income and people are depending 671 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: on you for their livelihood because your success is tied 672 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: to their success. 673 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, I mean yeah. Man, you know, 674 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 3: it's a trip. It's a trip, you know, my whole experience. 675 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 3: But I would say that, you know, early on, being 676 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 3: you know, in such a supportive environment, I was able 677 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 3: to find my purpose, you know what I mean. And 678 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 3: you know, when I'm looking back, I'm like, wow, I'm 679 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 3: so happy that I was, you know, so very young 680 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 3: in my experience because now, you know, that has put 681 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 3: me in a position to really realize why I still 682 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 3: put music out. You know, I'm not sure why you know, 683 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 3: others do things, you know what I'm saying. But if 684 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 3: you're not tied to you know, purpose, and you don't 685 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 3: have intention, then you can't you can't essentially whether the storm, 686 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 3: you know, whether the storm of what people deem as unsuccess, 687 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 3: you know, being unsuccessful. You know what I'm saying, Like, 688 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 3: you know, you have to weather that. You know, this 689 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 3: is this is a you know, a good and bad experience. 690 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 691 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: That people refer to you as the unbothered King, So 692 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: you've learned I determine my success. I don't let the negativity. 693 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 1: I don't let you say people say, well, that wasn't bad. 694 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: I feel good when I was making this album. I 695 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: feel good when I was making this song. So Okay, 696 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: everybody's not gonna like it, but I felt good when 697 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: I do when I put things out like this. 698 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I have intention, you know, and my intention 699 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 3: is to, you know, make someone else feel good, you 700 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 3: know what I mean. And you know, whether that's one 701 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 3: person or a billion people, you know what I'm saying, 702 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 3: My intention still reigns. 703 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: Bro, how do you say? So? Look, we all, like 704 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: you said, we we we all get upset, we all 705 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: get angry. But it seemed your calm demeanor is like 706 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: you really never get outside of Oh yeah, Have you 707 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: always been like that or that was? Is that a 708 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: work in progress, that that's an ongoing work that you 709 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 1: had to work on? Yeah? 710 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 3: I think I think it's a little bit of both, 711 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's something that I've had 712 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 3: to work on because certain situations has you know, called 713 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,439 Speaker 3: my emotions to heighten to a level that I wasn't 714 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 3: prepared for. You know what, I'm saying, but essentially it 715 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 3: still goes back to choice, you know what I mean. 716 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 3: And I'm choosing to show up in the world this way. 717 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 3: And you know, like I said, not everybody you know 718 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 3: understands it, you know what I'm saying. Some people feel 719 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 3: like it's unauthentic. You know. After the fans dub me 720 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 3: mister unbothered, it was like people wanted to. 721 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: Try to put you in a situation to get you 722 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: by you know what I'm saying. 723 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 3: They would have, you know, mess with me more. You 724 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, and you know, having emotional intelligence, 725 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 3: and this is what this is how I look at 726 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 3: being you know, dubbed mister Bob. It's like, when you 727 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 3: really think about it, at the end of the day, 728 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 3: you know, when someone is you know, has the intent 729 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 3: to pull you out your space, like you're gonna give 730 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 3: them that power, you know what I'm saying, You're gonna 731 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 3: really give up that power to allow somebody to, you know, 732 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 3: make you turn into. 733 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: Something that when they got me out of character. Now 734 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 1: you telling me all this because I definitely let somebody 735 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: get me out of my character. Damn, I need to 736 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: hear this conversation. Two months ago. 737 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 3: No, I said. I seen that clip and I was like, whoa, 738 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 3: that's a lion on them court hold man, hey, get somebody. 739 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 3: They can't even hold it. Wait a minute, I'm not 740 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 3: gonna call me the bother king. I have to Bob, 741 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:43,720 Speaker 3: I would bothered. 742 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: Man. 743 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 3: I seen that and I was like, whoa, whoa? Hold on? 744 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: What's going on? I said the same thing, like who 745 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: is that? 746 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:50,439 Speaker 3: Dude? 747 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, but I'm looking at some of your ice Box, 748 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: produced by Timberlin, peaked that number twelve on the Billboard, 749 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: your most successful solo single to date, Will Smith is 750 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: produced one of your music videos. What is it like 751 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: working with some of these? I mean Tim, we know 752 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: what Tim is the beat guy. Working with Will Smith, 753 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 1: we know what he is as a as a rapper, 754 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: as an actor, as an entertainer, producer, working with some 755 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: of these all time great guys. So when you go 756 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: into the studio or you go into it, you know 757 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna do the music video. What's on Amarion's mind? 758 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 1: And does it always mess with what's on their mind? 759 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 3: Yeah? For me being able to you know, brush arms 760 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 3: with the Grays, I'm always trying to learn, you know 761 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 3: what I mean. I'm always like, okay, so well, okay, 762 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 3: that's what he did. Okay, Oh he's using that machine. Okay, okay, 763 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 3: Will did it like this? 764 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 1: Okay? 765 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So I've always essentially been 766 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 3: a sponge and that's something that I've carried with me, 767 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 3: you know what i mean. So to be able to 768 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 3: work with the greats, you know, is an honor, you 769 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 3: know what I mean. But I always I'm always in 770 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 3: a space of learning, you know what i mean. 771 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: So you I mean, you had a record with Chris Brown. 772 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: Where's Chris Brown rank on the R and B charge? 773 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 3: Oh man, He's he's top level. You know what I mean. 774 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 3: He's he's high level. You know, maybe a little bit 775 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 3: too late that, Yeah, I mean, you know, all of 776 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 3: my peers, you know what I'm saying outside of whatever 777 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 3: you know, personal things, you know what I'm saying, Like, 778 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 3: we can't we can't never take the talent and skill 779 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 3: and focus and ability away from him. So you know, 780 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 3: C b Usher, you know, I would I would consider us, 781 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 3: you know, in the class of Michael and James Brown's sons. 782 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, because you know, essentially we 783 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 3: do the song and dance and the performing. You know 784 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 3: what I mean. So, uh yeah, you know what I mean. 785 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 3: So and in the ranking, you know what I mean. 786 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 3: Usher definitely is a solo artist, you know what I mean. 787 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 3: Then I would come come after that and then you 788 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 3: know c B. You know, as far as timeline wise goes, 789 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. 790 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm looking at you guys. I mean, what type of 791 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 1: physical conditioning must you be in to not only sing 792 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 1: but dance for two hours? Yeah? 793 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you definitely have to be a 794 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 3: freak of nature. You know what I'm saying. 795 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: GM, You're working down a cardio every day. 796 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 3: I just I just bunched down my twenty one days, yep, 797 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 3: the day before yesterday, I finished my last twenty one days. 798 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 3: But I'm constantly in the gym. You know, I'm constantly 799 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 3: you know, still taking vocal lessons. You know what I'm saying. 800 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 3: I'm still in the studio every day, you know what 801 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 3: I mean. Like glowing. 802 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: I feel, even though you've reached a certain level, you 803 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,280 Speaker 1: still feel that Amarjan can get better. 804 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, y'all haven't seen the best. Y'all haven't seen 805 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 3: the best. You know what I mean. I'm going to 806 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 3: continue to grow as an artist and that as an individual. 807 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, y'all haven't seen the best. 808 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: Who's on your current list of active R and B 809 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore active active? 810 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 2: Hmm. 811 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 3: That's a hard one because you know, I listened to 812 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,399 Speaker 3: a lot of past music. You know what I'm saying. 813 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: You want to do? You want to do a Mount Rushmore, 814 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: You want to do a just go ahead and says, okay, 815 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: my Mount Rushmore of R and B singers are okay, 816 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: all right? 817 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 3: Mount Rushmore of R and B singers, Donnie Hathaway, Frankie Beverly, 818 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 3: mays Well, Frankie Bevery, Frankie Beverly, and Marvin Gaye. You know, 819 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 3: Michael Jackson R and B a pop uh, He's definitely 820 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 3: R and B. You know, you know pop music, you 821 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 3: know it's been convoluted, but really pop music is popular music, 822 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And Michael Jackson is one 823 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 3: of the most popular artists of all time, you know 824 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 3: what I mean. So he's definitely R and B. Stevie 825 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 3: wonder you know what I mean? How many is that five? 826 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: That's Rushmore? Got like six? Okay? Okay? 827 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 3: Michael? And who who could be the last one? Who 828 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 3: could be the last one. 829 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: You got Usher, you got Chris Brown, of course, pend 830 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,240 Speaker 1: the Grass I'll beat up of. 831 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 3: Course all of those guys. Harry Right, what about my man, 832 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 3: Charlie Wilson. Yeah, what I'm saying, Yes, that's a great Okay. 833 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 3: What about female female? Definitely Franklin Beyonce, who else? 834 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,240 Speaker 1: Anita Baker, Anita. 835 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 3: Baker for show, Anita Baker? Who else? Who else touched 836 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 3: my song? Whitney Kimbarell. Yeah, Maria's up in there too. Yeah. 837 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: So you signed to a few rappers label and I 838 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: mean you Lil Wayne Young Money Tamberlain moses the music. 839 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 1: Is it hard to sign with a label when the 840 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: label head is still produced putting out music, because it 841 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: seems to me that while they're still trying to do 842 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: their thing, they don't have the kind of time to 843 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: focus and give you that what you need. Yeah. 844 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 3: Well, you know with Young Money, you know, and uh 845 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 3: shout out to uh Lil Wayne. You know what he 846 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 3: was creating at the time, you know, which essentially we 847 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,399 Speaker 3: see now, you know, with Drake and Nikki and all 848 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,800 Speaker 3: of the other artists, was really just a artist haven 849 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 3: to be able to do what you wanna do, right 850 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 3: cause cause essentially, you know, real creative artists, they just 851 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 3: need support, right, you know what I'm saying. And you 852 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 3: know that's what my thought process was, you know. With 853 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 3: you know, aligning with Young Money was not just you know, 854 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 3: being able to go to you know, another artist and 855 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 3: say like, yo, this is what I need. You know, 856 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 3: can you do this business wise? Like Wayne was very 857 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,879 Speaker 3: much so like hey you wanna do that? Oh here, 858 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 3: go to the check do this? You know what I mean? 859 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 3: Same thing uh with with Mayback music, right, you know 860 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 3: what I mean. Essentially it was just the artist supporting 861 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 3: the artists, you know what I mean, and you feel 862 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 3: the connection. You feel like there's a bridge between you know, 863 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 3: an artists understanding that it doesn't always work out because 864 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 3: there's some selfish ass artists out here. Oh yeah, they 865 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 3: don't want you to be hotter than them. There's some 866 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 3: artists out here that you know, they won't allow you 867 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 3: to flourish like that, you know what I'm saying. But 868 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 3: you know, the people that I've been able to associate 869 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 3: myself with people. 870 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: Realize that how much money is out there and there's 871 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: enough for everybody to get some of it. 872 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 3: I don't know if they do all of the time. Oh, 873 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 3: I don't know if they do all the time. I 874 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 3: think some people want to hog the limelight, you know 875 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,280 Speaker 3: what I mean. But you know, as Jay say, sometimes 876 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 3: people don't realize it's not about that white hot light. 877 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 3: I mean white hot light, you know what I mean. 878 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 3: It's essentially about you know, creating things, you know what 879 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 3: I'm saying, and having different businesses. You know, And he's 880 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 3: definitely showed us how important it is to not just 881 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 3: be an artist to do. 882 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 1: They I'll just read he worked two point five b 883 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 1: and if were net worth is double since twenty nineteen, 884 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 1: So shout out to you. 885 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 3: Hold yeah, for real? 886 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 1: So what did you learn? I'm working with so many 887 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,359 Speaker 1: different music labels. 888 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 3: That it's up to you. You know, you need to 889 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 3: actually you know, have a team that makes checks and 890 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 3: balances and that you know, communicate with people. Essentially the 891 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 3: businessman that I've become to today. You know, all those 892 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 3: experiences showed me that it's like, it's not up to 893 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 3: anyone else, no outside energies. You know, it's up to me, right, 894 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 3: you know, And because I started so young, I haven't 895 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,720 Speaker 3: always been able to do that. You know, There's always 896 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 3: been you know, managers or certain people in the way 897 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 3: right of that connection, you know what I mean. So, yeah, 898 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 3: they just showed me, you know, like, hey, it's up 899 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 3: to you, Oh right, it ain't up to them. 900 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,319 Speaker 1: You see, Like you look at a Michael Jackson, you 901 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: look at a Chris Brown, you look at a Beyonce, yourself, 902 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 1: people that started out as child entertainers and then have 903 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 1: this long career as adults, how have you been able 904 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: to maintain or manage that? 905 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,280 Speaker 3: I think by not being pigeon held by you know, uh, 906 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 3: having one hit, you know, or having hits. You know, 907 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 3: they call those legacy artists now you know what I mean, 908 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 3: certain people that ever go on tour and do songs 909 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 3: that they did in the past. Right While I think 910 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 3: that that's important, I think it's it's it's even more 911 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 3: important to continue to grow as artists, you know. And 912 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 3: when I look at my predecessors and people that I 913 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 3: look up to, like Michael Jackson and Marvin Gator, you know, 914 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 3: when I realize how dope you know Stevie Wonder was, 915 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 3: it was like it was immediate, you know, and now 916 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 3: today's climate, you know, I think, uh, people that are 917 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 3: born you know in my year, like Lebron. You know 918 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. We both eighty four babies. It's like 919 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,879 Speaker 3: we've seen him just grow, right, you know what I mean. 920 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,799 Speaker 3: And I think that that's what's so cool about now 921 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,839 Speaker 3: is that there's no limits, you know what I'm saying. 922 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,319 Speaker 3: You can just continue to get better, try different things, 923 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 3: do different things. And I think that that is what 924 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 3: is been, you know, essential to my success and staying 925 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 3: relevant is I'm a fi I'm not afraid to to 926 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 3: do new things, right, you know what I'm saying. 927 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 1: What are some of the advice you would give the 928 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,319 Speaker 1: young and up and coming artists if you could sit 929 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: down and there's some artists like, oh, w you know, 930 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: we're new to the business, give us some advice. What's 931 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 1: some of the advice that you would give a new, 932 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: up and cooming artist. 933 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 3: I would say, for perfect your craft, you know, don't 934 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 3: put yourself in a box, don't allow others to put 935 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 3: you in a box. And uh yeah, just try new things, 936 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,320 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And also it's very important 937 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 3: that you know whoever is representing you, you know, is 938 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,879 Speaker 3: representing you in the way you wanna be represented. Yuh, 939 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I think that It's so 940 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 3: important when we're talking about business. You know that people 941 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 3: uh honor fairness, you know, because we as you know, 942 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 3: this business isn't fair. Yeah, you know what I mean. 943 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 3: And people always want things from you when you hot, 944 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So realize you know that 945 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 3: this is a up and down experience. This is a 946 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 3: motion experience. This is not just a flatline, you know 947 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 3: what I mean. And just continue to grow. Oh, you 948 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,879 Speaker 3: know what I mean. Perfect your craft, love what you do, 949 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 3: find your purpose in it, and have intention. 950 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 2: You know. 951 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 3: That is really what saved me from feeling like I 952 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 3: wanted to quit or feeling like I wanted to, you know, 953 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 3: give it up, you know, like, oh can he have 954 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 3: anoether hit? I don't know why. It's like, you know, 955 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 3: the public puts that on you. They put that on you. 956 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 3: They put on you like oh he's old, or you 957 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 3: know like, oh, well we've seen him do this before. 958 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,399 Speaker 3: But it's levels to this, you know what I mean. 959 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 3: So continue to grow and yeah, do your best, show 960 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 3: up as your best. 961 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: What are some of the benefits and the drawback of 962 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 1: social media Because not everybody's a producer, everybody is a songwriter, 963 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: everybody has an opinion and it somebody says this, it 964 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 1: can go viral in fifteen seconds, and then all of 965 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 1: a sudden you're being talked about when what's your qualifications 966 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 1: to judge what I did or who I am? Right? 967 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 3: I think the pros of social media is that you know, 968 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 3: it can get hot overnight, you know, And that was 969 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 3: different from the time in which I entered into the 970 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 3: music business, which was or the entertainment business, which was 971 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 3: like you actually have to do the work, you know 972 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,240 Speaker 3: what I mean. But you can also burn out fast, 973 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? You can you can be hot. 974 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,399 Speaker 3: I mean, it's so many what do they call them, 975 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 3: socialized social media personalities, your influencers that have been successful 976 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 3: at one thing and then they disappear, and then you 977 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 3: find them and then you see them on the street. 978 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:31,720 Speaker 3: You'd be like, oh what happened? 979 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 1: Man? 980 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. So I think that, you know, 981 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 3: there are some good things about social media and then 982 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,360 Speaker 3: there's some adverse things. You know, I won't say bad 983 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 3: if you know how to navigate, you know what I'm saying. 984 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 3: But you know, I think, you know, being intentional is important. 985 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 3: You know, I couldn't believe that the o Marion challenge 986 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 3: you know, came from you know, six years ago, this 987 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,799 Speaker 3: performance you know that I did. And then it was 988 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,400 Speaker 3: like you know, football players was doing and when they 989 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,439 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like, so you can have 990 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 3: some incredible success from from you know, the internet, you 991 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,800 Speaker 3: know what I mean, But you can have some adverse 992 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,879 Speaker 3: things too, you know what I mean. You don't want 993 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,319 Speaker 3: no sex tape out there, you know what I'm saying. 994 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,760 Speaker 3: You want your ass out on it on the internet 995 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 3: because they never go away, you know what I'm saying. 996 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,760 Speaker 3: So you know, I would just say, you know, be thoughtful. 997 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 3: But I think that that is the good and bad thing. 998 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,880 Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned social media being catfish. There was someone 999 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 1: that got catfish that went on Doctor Phil and say 1000 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,799 Speaker 1: they were married or they were getting married to you 1001 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 1: and so the real own right catfish. So when you 1002 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 1: see that, you're like, man, come on, why would somebody 1003 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:43,359 Speaker 1: do this? 1004 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think that it's you know, the internet is 1005 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 3: you know, to certain people that don't. I heard Prince 1006 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 3: say this, he said, use the Internet, don't let the 1007 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 3: Internet use you, you know what I mean. And sometimes 1008 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 3: people are so gullible, you know what I mean. And 1009 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,880 Speaker 3: it was really unfortunate that they young lady thought we 1010 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 3: were in a relationship. She was about to send this 1011 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 3: other person money. It's like, you know, I think we 1012 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,320 Speaker 3: live in an age where you have to be mindful, 1013 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And it was real sad, 1014 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,239 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like who wants to get 1015 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:20,280 Speaker 3: taken advantage? So being catfish? And then also that show, 1016 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like that show coming into existence, 1017 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, where you know, you think 1018 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 3: you're getting to know someone and you know it's they're 1019 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 3: not who they say they are. You know what I'm saying, 1020 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 3: Like it's just whack. You know what I'm saying. So 1021 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 3: you know, all the people out there on the internet, 1022 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 3: don't be naive, y'all. Okay you're not talking to Oh 1023 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 3: if you don't see the blue check, Okay, if you 1024 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,759 Speaker 3: ain't see the blue check, I hit you with the 1025 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 3: slide in the DM, which I don't do too often, 1026 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 3: you know, Nah. I mean I mean, if you're looking good, Nona, No, 1027 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,879 Speaker 3: I try I try to. I try to, you know way, Yeah, 1028 00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 3: I think I think you know you have to kind 1029 00:50:59,960 --> 00:51:02,839 Speaker 3: of you know what I'm saying, have the boundary, Yeah, Yeah, 1030 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 3: have boundaries, you know, because you can have a good 1031 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 3: conversation online, yes, you know what I mean, but you 1032 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 3: need to meet them and that that needs to translate 1033 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 3: to you know what I'm saying. 1034 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 1: So you got punk by Badwow. So which was so 1035 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 1: being punked on national television or being catfished? 1036 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 3: I think being punk because that's that's quicker than being catfished. 1037 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just saying. 1038 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 3: You could be talking to you know, you could be thinking. 1039 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 3: You could be thinking that you're talking to Mary j 1040 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 3: Bos and it's scary j Block. You know what I'm saying. 1041 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,760 Speaker 3: You thought you fall and fell in love with JB 1042 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 3: and you got scary JB. You know what I'm saying. 1043 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,840 Speaker 3: So you got to be mindful people, you know what 1044 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 1045 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,759 Speaker 1: So you are kid star, mean because you've always been 1046 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 1: to live like you were in commercial for I think 1047 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 1: corn Pops and you had another commercial. So when you 1048 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,760 Speaker 1: were like six or seventy and you're doing all these things, 1049 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 1: how are your friends reacting to you? 1050 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 3: Well, my friends with my family and because you know, 1051 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,239 Speaker 3: I was so uh you know young, with my mom 1052 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,800 Speaker 3: having a child, I was already famous. Oh that's so 1053 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 3: Mari you know what I mean. Oh, they're all right there, 1054 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I always feel like 1055 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 3: I was essentially famous my whole life. 1056 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 1: So you've always lived quote unquote a fish bowl. People 1057 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,800 Speaker 1: have always looked at you because you had this unique talent. 1058 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, and energy and personality, you know what I mean. 1059 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,640 Speaker 3: I was definitely that kid you know that brought my 1060 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,919 Speaker 3: teacher flowers. You know what I'm saying, Oh. 1061 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that wash. 1062 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, Miss Chase, shout out, Miss Chase. She was fine, 1063 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,839 Speaker 3: And I knew that as a kid. I just didn't 1064 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 3: know what to. 1065 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: Do with it. You know what I'm saying, Old, you're 1066 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:48,880 Speaker 1: looking at the teachers. 1067 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:53,319 Speaker 3: She was fine. She had that smile. I was like, Hey, 1068 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,440 Speaker 3: it's Chase. He goes some flowers. 1069 00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna come back about ten years. Do you believe 1070 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 1: Do you believe Bow? Do you believe Bob gets the 1071 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 1: credit that he deserves, because I've seen on the internet 1072 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 1: people trying to clown him, pretending like he only had 1073 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,359 Speaker 1: one or two hits, and Boo was like that he 1074 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 1: I mean, he was in movies. I mean he was 1075 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,719 Speaker 1: obviously I haven't seen many movies lately, but he was 1076 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 1: at the top of the charts for a period of time. 1077 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,759 Speaker 1: But he's he did that music. No matter what you 1078 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,359 Speaker 1: think about it, he did that. 1079 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean everyone that comes from you know, my era, 1080 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,319 Speaker 3: you know of music, the stream tour, you know, c 1081 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 3: B Bow Wow like you know, unfortunately nowadays, you know, 1082 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 3: people like to chip away at artists, you know what 1083 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 3: I'm saying. I seen him chipping away at Usher too, 1084 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 3: and he's That's what I'm saying. But he's one of 1085 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:51,800 Speaker 3: the few artists that has like a Diamonds certified album. 1086 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 3: So I think essentially it just comes with it, you 1087 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,480 Speaker 3: know what I mean. It comes with being an artist 1088 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,759 Speaker 3: and putting yourself out there. You know, I think the 1089 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 3: only now even yeah, even Beyonce has to go through it, 1090 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,919 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Like it's just a part 1091 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 3: of it, you know what I mean. But everybody in 1092 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,319 Speaker 3: their own right, you know that has had major success, 1093 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 3: you know, definitely deserves a salute and some respect, you 1094 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,240 Speaker 3: know what I mean, because this is not easy. 1095 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,799 Speaker 1: You know, your life, you've i mean, like you said, 1096 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 1: from a child star to now who you are, so 1097 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 1: you've always been in the eye. What made you do 1098 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:28,359 Speaker 1: reality TV? 1099 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 3: So my thought process, you know what Reality TV was 1100 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 3: two things, and that was one at that particular time. 1101 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 3: And I've shared the story many times. My record company 1102 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,319 Speaker 3: wasn't supporting supposed to be, you know what I mean. 1103 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 3: And this was also a part of my growing as 1104 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,400 Speaker 3: a businessman too. You know, I invested my own money, 1105 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,920 Speaker 3: you know what I mean into supposed to be you know, uh, 1106 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 3: shout out Jenai Eko and Chris Brown because you know, 1107 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,800 Speaker 3: this is one of my biggest songs to date, right, 1108 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 3: you know, four times platinum and I saw him in 1109 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 3: the chart it might be at seven million at this point. Wow, Yeah, 1110 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 3: we gonna confirm them numbers, but I know it is 1111 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 3: at four million, right, but yeah, uh, you know, my 1112 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,359 Speaker 3: record company wasn't supporting me. So I was like, Yo, 1113 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,920 Speaker 3: how am I gonna be able to you know, be visible? 1114 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:23,279 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? How am I gonna be 1115 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,400 Speaker 3: able to you know, not only be visible, but you know, 1116 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,360 Speaker 3: show people that I'm growing? Right, And you know, Reality 1117 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 3: TV gave me an opportunity to kind of step out 1118 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,279 Speaker 3: of that space, you know, cause I come from the 1119 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,719 Speaker 3: class of mystique, right, you know that doesn't exist anymore. Yeah, 1120 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 3: but you know, you know, being being you know, coming 1121 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,880 Speaker 3: from that class and you know, adapting to the new reality. 1122 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 3: You know, I feel like it would be a great 1123 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,040 Speaker 3: opportunity for me to promote my music, and essentially it was. 1124 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 3: You know, I was able to show my growth on 1125 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,320 Speaker 3: that show, you know what I mean, having a girlfriend 1126 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,479 Speaker 3: and you know, bringing my my child, you know, into 1127 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 3: this world on reality TV. So it did exactly what 1128 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,759 Speaker 3: it was supposed to do. But again just brings me 1129 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,640 Speaker 3: back to intention. I wasn't just on TV to be 1130 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,520 Speaker 3: on TV, you know what I mean, Like I had 1131 00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 3: it was a purpose, you know what I mean, and essentially, 1132 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 3: you know that purpose carried out. It wasn't for me, 1133 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:22,320 Speaker 3: you know, and you know in a long term situation 1134 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 3: just because you know it did. But scripture reality is 1135 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:27,840 Speaker 3: just not for me, you know what I mean. Like 1136 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 3: I'm not a person that you know, wants to shoot 1137 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 3: in you know, February and going through something very tough 1138 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,759 Speaker 3: to go through, you know, with a camera in front 1139 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 3: of my face, and then the show don't come out 1140 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 3: till November, and now I gotta go back through it 1141 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,120 Speaker 3: right with the public, right, you know what I'm saying. 1142 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,319 Speaker 3: So when I realized that, I was like, yeah, this 1143 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:48,880 Speaker 3: is not for me. This is not for me. 1144 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,000 Speaker 1: You were in a very public relationship, and you've been 1145 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:58,240 Speaker 1: a very public person. How does O find the perfect 1146 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if there is such thing. It's perfection. 1147 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 1: People strive to achieve it. But how does he find 1148 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:08,760 Speaker 1: the ideal woman? Given who you are, Given that any 1149 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,839 Speaker 1: potential dating candidate knows who you are, how do you 1150 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 1: find that person? 1151 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 3: Well, she finds me, you know what I'm saying. It's 1152 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 3: been a while since I've actually been in a you know, 1153 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 3: quote unquote girlfriend boyfriend type relationship. You know, But I 1154 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 3: think a private life is a happy life, you know 1155 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 3: what I mean. But I believe that she finds she 1156 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,200 Speaker 3: finds me, But they don't know. I'm just saying, you 1157 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 3: know what I mean, And it might be she's you 1158 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm just saying she's might 1159 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 3: find me. Yeah, plurals, you know what I'm saying, She's 1160 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 3: like that. No, I'm just saying, like, you know, if 1161 00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 3: I if I really thought about my lifestyle and being 1162 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,920 Speaker 3: with me, like the pressure of being with me, you know, 1163 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,120 Speaker 3: and it just being one woman, I don't know if 1164 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 3: that I don't know if that is it might take 1165 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,920 Speaker 3: more than it might, because you know, I might need 1166 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,720 Speaker 3: her to be a businesswoman on Monday and then we 1167 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:17,000 Speaker 3: might get freaky on Tuesday. I'm just saying it might be. 1168 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,920 Speaker 3: It might be, it might be. You know, I don't 1169 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 3: come from a traditional you know, uh standpoint. You know, 1170 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 3: I feel like I've definitely tried the traditional way, and 1171 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's for me. You know, again, 1172 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 3: I'm still I'm single. 1173 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 1: You know, Are we really meant to be that? Are 1174 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 1: we are men really meant to be in a monogamous 1175 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 1: one on one situation? 1176 00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,600 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know. I really don't know. I 1177 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 3: think that you can find someone that makes you feel 1178 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 3: like you don't want to be with anyone else, you 1179 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 3: know what I mean. There might be a woman out 1180 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 3: there that can fill that voice. But you know, if 1181 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 3: if we're talking just strictly nature, you know what I'm saying, No, No, 1182 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,520 Speaker 3: I don't think so, you know, I'm you know, it's 1183 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 3: very far in between it. I've seen a man and 1184 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 3: he just like, yo, I just love this woman like 1185 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,959 Speaker 3: it's you know what I mean, it's it's it's very rare, 1186 00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And especially being in my industry, 1187 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, but you know, just being fair, 1188 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like I'm I'm definitely open 1189 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:24,000 Speaker 3: to love, and I really feel like love is acceptance, 1190 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,120 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So if there is one woman, cool, 1191 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. If there's two cool, If 1192 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:33,000 Speaker 3: there's three cool, But after three, I'm gonna have to 1193 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:34,040 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 1194 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 1: You tried to be a king? What's going on? 1195 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:39,640 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Well, you know what they 1196 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 3: say about two women, you know, and a man. 1197 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,280 Speaker 1: They say, got double problems. 1198 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:46,040 Speaker 3: You gotta be double a man. 1199 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,600 Speaker 1: I ain't got to do overtime. So we saw I 1200 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,880 Speaker 1: saw this on the internet, you and and Neil Long 1201 00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:01,880 Speaker 1: and there's a vast age difference. And she's like, that's 1202 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 1: my nephew. Got y'all they blow up everything on there? 1203 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 3: What is it? 1204 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? She said, y'all good. Yeah, we're cool. Yeah, Ben, 1205 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,920 Speaker 1: that's not ain't a relationship. 1206 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no. But I mean, you know I wouldn't. 1207 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 3: I wouldn't skim over it, you know what I'm saying. 1208 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 3: You know, if there was you know, a conversation and 1209 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,120 Speaker 3: you know, because I've never you know, got to know 1210 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:25,680 Speaker 3: who she is. You know what I'm saying. I don't 1211 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 3: know her, so I wouldn't completely take it off the table, 1212 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:30,840 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. We might be on the 1213 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,280 Speaker 3: we might be on the same level. I don't know. 1214 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:37,320 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. It's possible. Anything is possible. 1215 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,840 Speaker 1: You you're just putting beings in everything. 1216 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,320 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you never know where it comes from. 1217 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 3: You got to be open to receive, to see you 1218 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 3: know what's meant for you. 1219 01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, I'm just trying to figure out 1220 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,920 Speaker 1: why the internet do stuff like that. I had candy 1221 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 1: on and people say, man, unk trying to palmer. But 1222 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,680 Speaker 1: the woman man, right right right, even like that right. 1223 01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,640 Speaker 3: Right right right, yeah, yeah, no, I understand. And you know, 1224 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,400 Speaker 3: I don't know when she when she grabbed my hand. 1225 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:07,400 Speaker 3: I mean I was like, oh, you know what I'm saying, but. 1226 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,840 Speaker 1: You're going through something. Oh you don't take advantage of 1227 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 1: a woman that's going at that time. 1228 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 3: No, that's true, that's true. I won't never take advantage 1229 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,000 Speaker 3: of a woman. You know you want to give it said. 1230 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,920 Speaker 1: Okay, what about you taking that advantage of the situation. 1231 01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 3: I wouldn't do that. I feel like, yeah, you know, 1232 01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 3: I think It's important for a person, you know, to 1233 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,040 Speaker 3: have the option to choose, you know, which way they 1234 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:29,880 Speaker 3: want to rock. You know what I'm saying. And I'm saying, 1235 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 3: I'm just a flexible person, you know where if you 1236 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 3: want to rock a certain type of way and I 1237 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,080 Speaker 3: agree with you, then let's rock. You know what I'm saying. Nil, 1238 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 3: if you wanted to rock, you know, we can. I 1239 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,400 Speaker 3: don't want to rock, I just want to. 1240 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:49,440 Speaker 2: No. 1241 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,080 Speaker 3: But but ma respect, but respect, you know, to to her. 1242 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,080 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, because I got a lot 1243 01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:55,600 Speaker 3: of energy. 1244 01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,600 Speaker 1: You do know like at some point in time you 1245 01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,160 Speaker 1: can have to have some very very difficult conversations with your. 1246 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no doubt and and honesty is the key. 1247 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,120 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Honestly is the key. 1248 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,320 Speaker 1: So I saw you at the HBCU Mental Health Tour. 1249 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 1: Why was that an important initiative for you? 1250 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:18,480 Speaker 3: So, you know, I dropped my book uh un Bothered 1251 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:23,680 Speaker 3: The Power Choosing Joy and along with you know, just 1252 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,760 Speaker 3: speaking about the importance of mental health. You know, I 1253 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 3: wanted to share some of my methods that essentially helped 1254 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:34,680 Speaker 3: me navigate some of you know, my public tumultuous situations. 1255 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 3: And you know, that involved breath work, that involved meditation. 1256 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,800 Speaker 3: And you know, when I realized that, you know, a 1257 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,720 Speaker 3: lot of these kids in college, you know, they're just 1258 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 3: figuring out their way. They're just leaving from their parents home. 1259 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 3: You know, they don't have no idea the importance of breathing, right. 1260 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 3: You know, through these situations, you know this person they're like, well, 1261 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:57,560 Speaker 3: I want to go to school from here, you know, 1262 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,200 Speaker 3: mid school. They like, I'm changing my you know, I'm 1263 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,120 Speaker 3: changing while I'm here. You know, I feel like that 1264 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,960 Speaker 3: there was a really big need for that, and you 1265 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,480 Speaker 3: know it's not it's not a lot of artists that 1266 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 3: are are you know, out here to share you know 1267 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:17,360 Speaker 3: what essentially keeps them saying. So you know, I felt 1268 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,600 Speaker 3: that that was a void that I could feel, you know, 1269 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,800 Speaker 3: and a responsibility that I could take on. So it 1270 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,520 Speaker 3: was amazing shout out to all of the HBCUs that 1271 01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,760 Speaker 3: I were able to go. You know, I didn't myself 1272 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:38,720 Speaker 3: go to college, you know what I mean experienced that No, no, no, no, because. 1273 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,560 Speaker 1: You know we put that thing down yeah yeah, yeah, 1274 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 1: no period. 1275 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,080 Speaker 3: Yeah no, I know, it's an experience. But you know, 1276 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,600 Speaker 3: because I started so young, and because I was traveling 1277 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,920 Speaker 3: and when I think about school and when I think 1278 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:58,320 Speaker 3: about you know, like wellow work. Yeah, I mean I 1279 01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,640 Speaker 3: probably would have like for turn, you know what I'm saying, Like, 1280 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 3: you know, I think that because I started so young, 1281 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,840 Speaker 3: Like when I look at that experience, I'm like, oh, 1282 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:08,200 Speaker 3: that would have been easy for me, you know what 1283 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,640 Speaker 3: I mean. But yeah, it's not something that I felt 1284 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:13,480 Speaker 3: like I missed out on, you know what I mean. 1285 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,000 Speaker 1: There's a docum docum series. 1286 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:17,960 Speaker 3: Yes, Omega, The Gift and the Curse. 1287 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,200 Speaker 1: What can we expect from doctor Well? 1288 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 3: The docu Omega, The Gift and the Curse is my 1289 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 3: journey of my group coming back together in twenty nineteen 1290 01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:32,880 Speaker 3: we started the Millennium Tour and you know, I haven't 1291 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,760 Speaker 3: really spoken on my perspective. You know, there's always been 1292 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:44,360 Speaker 3: so many different storylines, and the documentary really restrate from 1293 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,240 Speaker 3: my perspective, from my perspective, you know what I mean. 1294 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,360 Speaker 3: And you know it's an unbiased one, you know what 1295 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 3: I mean. I tell my personal truths, you know, I 1296 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 3: share my perspective. And it's such a great docu. You know, 1297 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:02,000 Speaker 3: y'all check it out. It's on all Black and man, 1298 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:02,479 Speaker 3: it's great. 1299 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:02,760 Speaker 1: You know. 1300 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,280 Speaker 3: I definitely would advise you, you know what I mean, big 1301 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,280 Speaker 3: brother Shannon, to check it out because it really shows 1302 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,280 Speaker 3: you know, the journey and you know the current state 1303 01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:17,480 Speaker 3: of you know, why things are and as far as 1304 01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,640 Speaker 3: you know, what I experienced in my group, and I 1305 01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,760 Speaker 3: think that being able to tell that story really sheds 1306 01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:27,880 Speaker 3: light on you know, the experience of growing up in 1307 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:28,880 Speaker 3: this industry. Right. 1308 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:36,480 Speaker 1: We know, alcohol and tobacca and heroin, all these cocaine 1309 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,240 Speaker 1: and marijuana if you want to say, marijuana is grug okay, 1310 01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:44,120 Speaker 1: But now fame attention might be more dangerous than any 1311 01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:50,000 Speaker 1: of those facts. Facts. How have you been able not 1312 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:51,040 Speaker 1: to succumb to those? 1313 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:56,760 Speaker 3: My foundation? I really have to, you know, salute, you know, 1314 01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,680 Speaker 3: just being a decent person, realizing that you know, everyone 1315 01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:05,800 Speaker 3: struggles with different things, right and that you know, you 1316 01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:09,600 Speaker 3: gotta really be careful. You gotta really be mindful you 1317 01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:13,840 Speaker 3: know about you know, uh, the things you intaking to 1318 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:19,760 Speaker 3: your body, your health, your your mindset. You know, I've 1319 01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,360 Speaker 3: been able to navigate it because you know, I had 1320 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,720 Speaker 3: a loving mother, I had people that loved me. I 1321 01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:26,919 Speaker 3: have people that hey, oh don't don't do that, Oh 1322 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:30,880 Speaker 3: you know that would tell me, you know, when you know, 1323 01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:36,560 Speaker 3: shout out to to my brother Anthony Martinez. He he 1324 01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:40,640 Speaker 3: essentially was uh a very key person on my journey. 1325 01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,080 Speaker 3: My best friend from from third grade. 1326 01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:50,000 Speaker 4: Yeah he he he got put in jail for uh 1327 01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:53,360 Speaker 4: attempted murder and he was in jail for twelve years. 1328 01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:57,520 Speaker 3: He just got released two weeks ago. And his attitude, 1329 01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,680 Speaker 3: you know, when I would tell him, you know about 1330 01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:05,080 Speaker 3: certain things and I'll be like, yo, yo, bro, you 1331 01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,840 Speaker 3: know this person is doing this and I yo, and 1332 01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,360 Speaker 3: he like, oh, you don't want to end up in here, man, right, 1333 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:11,920 Speaker 3: you don't want your freedom taking away? 1334 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:12,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1335 01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:16,640 Speaker 3: So those voices, you know, that support has really helped 1336 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:18,880 Speaker 3: me navigate, you know what I mean, and not falling 1337 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:24,240 Speaker 3: into those you know, those pits of disparity and depression, 1338 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,120 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like I said, my life 1339 01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,440 Speaker 3: hasn't always been just all smiles, you know what I'm saying. 1340 01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:35,280 Speaker 3: But having those voices and having that love you know 1341 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,280 Speaker 3: ha has essentially you know, saved me from it, right 1342 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 3: you know. 1343 01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,960 Speaker 1: But oh uh, a lot of times the dynamic change 1344 01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:45,280 Speaker 1: because okay, there's a there's a there's a parent child relationship. Yeah. Uh, 1345 01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,080 Speaker 1: the the parent is the provider the child is the child. 1346 01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,560 Speaker 1: But when the roads flip, Now, all of a sudden, 1347 01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,960 Speaker 1: the child is the provider. Yeah, And a lot of 1348 01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,200 Speaker 1: your friends that are around you, they're able to go 1349 01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,160 Speaker 1: into clubs and be in these clubs and said that 1350 01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,440 Speaker 1: bottle service yea, and talk to all these women because 1351 01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,760 Speaker 1: of you. Now, if I tell Oh, I know, Oh's wrong. 1352 01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:05,960 Speaker 1: But if I tell Oh, he's wrong, and all of 1353 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,959 Speaker 1: a sudden, he stopped the bus and I gotta get off. 1354 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,480 Speaker 1: Ain't no more fancy clubs, no more bottle service, no 1355 01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,440 Speaker 1: more being in a situation where I can talk to 1356 01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,000 Speaker 1: some of the most beautiful women in the world. How 1357 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,200 Speaker 1: have your friends and your mom like mom got a knight, 1358 01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,760 Speaker 1: I like that, tell oh he doing wrong? How have 1359 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,400 Speaker 1: they been able? How have you been able to navigate? 1360 01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,960 Speaker 1: And your friends that have been your friends say, oh, 1361 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 1: you're wrong, Bro, you do that? Your mom say, oh, 1362 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,559 Speaker 1: I'm ari y'all. You know, I'll raise you better than that. 1363 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:37,559 Speaker 1: How have they have been able to stay steadfast and 1364 01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:38,679 Speaker 1: you listen to what they say? 1365 01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 3: I think, you know, having those strong conversations is so 1366 01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:46,760 Speaker 3: you know important, you know what I mean? And accountability 1367 01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:49,160 Speaker 3: is big in my world. You know what I mean? 1368 01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,960 Speaker 3: Because I'm not always right and other people aren't always right, 1369 01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,559 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So communication is a big 1370 01:08:54,600 --> 01:09:00,960 Speaker 3: thing in my family, and yeah, you know I haven't. 1371 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:06,240 Speaker 3: I haven't always you know, tried to you know, remove 1372 01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:10,000 Speaker 3: people you know from my space and you know, the 1373 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:13,240 Speaker 3: the success the sir, the s the circle of success 1374 01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,880 Speaker 3: r you know what I mean. I always have tried 1375 01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,519 Speaker 3: to push people forward. And I think because I've had 1376 01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:23,679 Speaker 3: that attitude, you know, with with I would say outside 1377 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,400 Speaker 3: of maybe a few people, you know that it has 1378 01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,360 Speaker 3: been adverse and that don't deserve to be around me, 1379 01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,599 Speaker 3: that don't deserve certain opportunities. I think just being real 1380 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:36,840 Speaker 3: with myself and realizing where people are has you know, 1381 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,439 Speaker 3: kept me from you know, having to experience that on 1382 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,320 Speaker 3: you know, on such a a bad level. But I 1383 01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,840 Speaker 3: will say I have I experienced it, uh you know 1384 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,479 Speaker 3: in a way that was like who A big lesson, right, 1385 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,880 Speaker 3: A big lesson? You know what I mean. So you 1386 01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:53,360 Speaker 3: know I take the good with the bad, you know 1387 01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:57,400 Speaker 3: what I mean. But I've been able to navigate because 1388 01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,320 Speaker 3: you know, I keep it real with myself, you know 1389 01:09:59,360 --> 01:09:59,680 Speaker 3: what I mean. 1390 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,000 Speaker 1: Why do you think it's so hard for certain situations 1391 01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:06,280 Speaker 1: to stay private. It seems like we become a very spiteful, 1392 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:11,040 Speaker 1: very we pray for other's downfall. Someone is going good, 1393 01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,200 Speaker 1: and like, man, I don't because and I was reading 1394 01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:14,960 Speaker 1: the quote the other day and it says jealousy. And 1395 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,800 Speaker 1: people used to think jealousy was always about someone wanting 1396 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,760 Speaker 1: something that you had, But sometimes jealousy is about they 1397 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,640 Speaker 1: don't want you to have it. Dude, got fifteen grammars 1398 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,960 Speaker 1: and you don't want me to get one. You got 1399 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,160 Speaker 1: one hundred million, you don't want me to get five? 1400 01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:28,880 Speaker 1: Come on? 1401 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean people like that. 1402 01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:33,360 Speaker 1: I don't. 1403 01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,320 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't vibe with people like that. You 1404 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:36,679 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, How. 1405 01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:37,679 Speaker 1: Can you can? 1406 01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:37,800 Speaker 3: You? 1407 01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,360 Speaker 1: But sometimes you don't know until it's too late. 1408 01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:42,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. 1409 01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:45,080 Speaker 1: It's not too late to the point that you know 1410 01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,479 Speaker 1: you can't make anybody. But you start to see and 1411 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,640 Speaker 1: you start to hear about things that were said and 1412 01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,559 Speaker 1: things that were done that was trying to prevent oh 1413 01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,439 Speaker 1: from getting to a certain level. All they they've already 1414 01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:57,240 Speaker 1: reached that level. 1415 01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:59,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I know so many people like that, 1416 01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,840 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? You know some people in 1417 01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,920 Speaker 3: the industry that are that way. You know, what I mean. 1418 01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:09,000 Speaker 3: But I think that it's just important to make sure 1419 01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,040 Speaker 3: that you're align with the right people, you know what 1420 01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,760 Speaker 3: I mean, Because again, you know, you got to kill 1421 01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:17,679 Speaker 3: that outside noise, because there's always going to be someone, 1422 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:22,040 Speaker 3: you know, especially when you're in the entertainment business, in 1423 01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,760 Speaker 3: the limelight that's praying for your downfall, you know what 1424 01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,000 Speaker 3: I mean. And it sucks that it has to be 1425 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,040 Speaker 3: that way. It sucks that somebody could look at you 1426 01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,080 Speaker 3: and be jealous and be like, I don't want him 1427 01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,400 Speaker 3: to have that, or you know what, I'm gonna make 1428 01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,400 Speaker 3: sure these two people don't meet, you know what I mean. Yes, 1429 01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,439 Speaker 3: why it's whack, you know what I mean. But you 1430 01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:43,599 Speaker 3: can't can't. People can't stop what's truly yours, and people 1431 01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:46,160 Speaker 3: can't take away from the hard work that you put in. 1432 01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:48,920 Speaker 3: And I'm a firm believer that you know, what's mine's 1433 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:50,439 Speaker 3: his mind and what's yours is yours. 1434 01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm a firm believer. Oh I believe when God said 1435 01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,800 Speaker 1: a plan in motion, you can't even stop it if 1436 01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,400 Speaker 1: you wanted to. That's let alone the outside person trying 1437 01:11:58,439 --> 01:11:58,880 Speaker 1: to stop it. 1438 01:11:58,880 --> 01:11:59,400 Speaker 3: That's fact. 1439 01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,760 Speaker 1: So if he close the door, can't no one open 1440 01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:03,759 Speaker 1: it and if he opens it, can't anyone close. 1441 01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:04,360 Speaker 3: Its fact. 1442 01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you out and talk about your touring. 1443 01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,400 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, you had a very successful tour 1444 01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,320 Speaker 1: R and B Top Tour, Wrap, Top Tour Rap twenty 1445 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:15,320 Speaker 1: twenty Music Billboard Music Awards. What is it about touring 1446 01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:16,280 Speaker 1: that you love so much? 1447 01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:20,320 Speaker 3: I love that you actually get to see the people 1448 01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,680 Speaker 3: and touch the people, you know, And because entertainment has 1449 01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:28,120 Speaker 3: always been a strong arm in my you know, entertainment career. 1450 01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,280 Speaker 3: You know, a tour is a is a ritual, you 1451 01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,320 Speaker 3: know what I mean? And that is all right, y'all. 1452 01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,000 Speaker 3: We put our new music which, by the way, we 1453 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:37,240 Speaker 3: put out Big Vibes. 1454 01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:40,280 Speaker 1: Today here, okay, you got a right. 1455 01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:44,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, got a new single. It's called Big Vibes. You 1456 01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,160 Speaker 3: know it's a self explanatory, you know what I mean. 1457 01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:49,240 Speaker 3: Whenever you are having a great time, put this song on. 1458 01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:51,240 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, is the soundtrack to a 1459 01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:55,479 Speaker 3: big vibe. It's coming. Uh, my new album is coming. 1460 01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,040 Speaker 3: It's titled Full Circle, which is which is a oh 1461 01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:01,000 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Five to five, So everybody 1462 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,760 Speaker 3: get prepared for that. But yeah, touring allows me to 1463 01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,680 Speaker 3: you know, put out new music and actually perform it, 1464 01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,880 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So touring has always been 1465 01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:13,280 Speaker 3: essential to my career and it's something that I want 1466 01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:14,439 Speaker 3: to continue to be able to do. 1467 01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:18,559 Speaker 1: There are some when you look back at your career now, 1468 01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:20,240 Speaker 1: there are some women that kind of grew up with 1469 01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:23,040 Speaker 1: that that like you, that's probably of grandmother's and there 1470 01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,559 Speaker 1: are some that are just mothers and now you got 1471 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:29,080 Speaker 1: their grands or their daughters. I mean that's a big 1472 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,679 Speaker 1: I mean, like, are you surprised that you've been able 1473 01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,960 Speaker 1: to have so much stay in power with the women? 1474 01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:39,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm not really surprised, but I'm happy. Yeah, 1475 01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,840 Speaker 3: you know, because I do it long. I'm just saying 1476 01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:45,960 Speaker 3: I do it long and strong. You know what I'm saying. 1477 01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,519 Speaker 3: I'm in for the long haul, you know what I'm saying. 1478 01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:52,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, No, it's funny when you know we're doing 1479 01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:54,599 Speaker 3: meet and greets and you know the mom will come 1480 01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:56,960 Speaker 3: and you know what. You know, there's this young woman 1481 01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:02,200 Speaker 3: I forget her name, but her first concert was one 1482 01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:05,280 Speaker 3: of my concerts and her mom passed away. So it's 1483 01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:08,280 Speaker 3: like a personal ritual of her every time when I 1484 01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:10,720 Speaker 3: you know, come to perform, to make sure she comes 1485 01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:12,920 Speaker 3: to the show, So you know, you never really know, 1486 01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:14,920 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like when it's time for tour, 1487 01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,559 Speaker 3: while everybody's coming out there, you know, of course people 1488 01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,360 Speaker 3: want to get out and you know, be in that 1489 01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:22,280 Speaker 3: atmosphere and perform and watch a show, you know what 1490 01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:26,120 Speaker 3: I mean. So touring has always been important. And shout 1491 01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:30,519 Speaker 3: out to the grandmas. Shout out to the grandmas, the mama, 1492 01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,679 Speaker 3: the daughters, the babies, bring them all. It's a family, 1493 01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:34,519 Speaker 3: a fair right. 1494 01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:38,799 Speaker 1: So what are it like performing overseas? I mean, because 1495 01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:40,320 Speaker 1: I mean it seems like when I look at the 1496 01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:44,320 Speaker 1: crowds and I see American performers performing overseas, it seems like, man, 1497 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,679 Speaker 1: they're in these stadiums and there's fifty sixty seventy thousand people. 1498 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,720 Speaker 1: If everybody's saying, I'm like, hell, I don't even know 1499 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,920 Speaker 1: the words in America and you know the words to 1500 01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:53,639 Speaker 1: every soul. 1501 01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:57,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't want to say unfortunately, because 1502 01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:04,160 Speaker 3: you know, American artists definitely support and love their American artists, 1503 01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:08,599 Speaker 3: but the appreciation level outside of this place is massive, 1504 01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:13,160 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You know, anytime I perform overseas, 1505 01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:15,920 Speaker 3: the love is just so crazy. I was just over 1506 01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,639 Speaker 3: there last year. I was just in Paris, not even 1507 01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,360 Speaker 3: in the capacity of performing, even though we did do 1508 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:22,720 Speaker 3: what was that? 1509 01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:23,200 Speaker 1: What was it? 1510 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,080 Speaker 3: We did? We so we sold our Old two arena. 1511 01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,600 Speaker 3: The Millennium Tour did sell out the Old two arena. 1512 01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:32,000 Speaker 3: But the appreciation level is just different. I mean, when's 1513 01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:33,720 Speaker 3: the last time you've been. I'm telling you, when you 1514 01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,439 Speaker 3: go out there, oh my goodness, they're gonna be like 1515 01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:41,040 Speaker 3: Shannon Shannon. The love is next level, you know. And 1516 01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,439 Speaker 3: I think it's because you know, they don't get to 1517 01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,280 Speaker 3: see us, you know, all the time, you know. I mean, 1518 01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,160 Speaker 3: it's not somewhere where we're just walking down the street 1519 01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:47,599 Speaker 3: all of the time. 1520 01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's overseas, but I've only been 1521 01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:53,679 Speaker 1: to Vegas in Atlanta from I don't know you consider 1522 01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:58,480 Speaker 1: that overseas, But that's not that far as far as 1523 01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:03,679 Speaker 1: I say. You, uh, perform with Usher's lovers and friends? Yes, yes, 1524 01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:04,839 Speaker 1: what was that experience? 1525 01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,519 Speaker 3: Like? No, well, actually it's coming up this year. Yep, 1526 01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:11,400 Speaker 3: it's coming up. What's the date on that? May six? 1527 01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,160 Speaker 3: May six? So you know it is so loud or 1528 01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:17,000 Speaker 3: otherwise I will tell everybody to come out. But it's 1529 01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:17,679 Speaker 3: gonna be amazing. 1530 01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,479 Speaker 1: Well, I mean they still if enough people not not 1531 01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:22,400 Speaker 1: gonna get the tickets, maybe y'all add a second date. 1532 01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:25,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's facts, that's facts. Yeah, you know what I mean. 1533 01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:29,760 Speaker 3: The lovers and friends of franchise is always awesome. It's 1534 01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:32,640 Speaker 3: a land you know, between nostalgic and new, you know 1535 01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:36,040 Speaker 3: what I mean. So, uh, new music. So I'm excited. 1536 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,240 Speaker 3: This is gonna be my first time performing, you know, 1537 01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:42,760 Speaker 3: outside of the you know, Millennium Tour brand, you know 1538 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,240 Speaker 3: what I mean. Of course, I plan on going on 1539 01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:48,720 Speaker 3: my own uh solo tour this year as well to 1540 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,120 Speaker 3: promote the Full Circle album and all of the new music. 1541 01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:54,840 Speaker 3: So yeah, you know, lovers and friends, y'all be looking 1542 01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:59,720 Speaker 3: out for some new tour dates, new music, uhh uh 1543 01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:03,519 Speaker 3: Omega The Gift and the Curse. And I also got 1544 01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,040 Speaker 3: I can't speak too much about you know what I mean, 1545 01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:09,880 Speaker 3: but uh, I gotta I gotta show. Yeah, I got 1546 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,760 Speaker 3: a new project coming, so y'all stay tuned. But you know, 1547 01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:16,360 Speaker 3: all things entertainment, your boy o Marion has got his 1548 01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,759 Speaker 3: foot on the game, and you know we're gonna continue 1549 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:20,240 Speaker 3: to flourish. 1550 01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,240 Speaker 1: Acting. Yes, you were a lot early on You know, 1551 01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,240 Speaker 1: you got served doing a lot of more. Is that 1552 01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:26,320 Speaker 1: something you want to get back to. 1553 01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's something that you know I will be doing 1554 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,439 Speaker 3: this year, So y'all can definitely be ready to see 1555 01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:35,880 Speaker 3: me on your TV or your big screen for sure. 1556 01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:41,439 Speaker 1: Who hasn't A Marion performed with be it on stage 1557 01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:43,440 Speaker 1: or on an album that he would. 1558 01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:50,080 Speaker 3: Like to well, I would. I would definitely love to 1559 01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:55,400 Speaker 3: do a collaboration with Beyonce. You know, she brought me 1560 01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:59,320 Speaker 3: out to the UK for the first time, you know, 1561 01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,559 Speaker 3: when I was in the group, So it doesn't seem 1562 01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,519 Speaker 3: like it's unlikely, you know what I mean. I would 1563 01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:06,679 Speaker 3: definitely love to do a song with her. I would 1564 01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:08,160 Speaker 3: love to do a song with Jill Scott. 1565 01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:08,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1566 01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:15,160 Speaker 3: I would love to do a song with a Dell too, Yes, amazing. 1567 01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:17,360 Speaker 1: I saw her a couple of years ago when she 1568 01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:19,840 Speaker 1: first on American Soil, when she came back at you 1569 01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:24,680 Speaker 1: at the Observatory amazing es. Yeah, yeah, powerful, I was 1570 01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:29,280 Speaker 1: in the Crime Get This tape. 1571 01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:35,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, and I think a slew of other people. 1572 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,200 Speaker 3: I definitely would love to, you know, do something with 1573 01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:41,479 Speaker 3: Chris Brown and Usher together all theo all three of us, 1574 01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,240 Speaker 3: you know, what I mean, whether it be performance or 1575 01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:43,719 Speaker 3: a song. 1576 01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:44,960 Speaker 1: May not gonna go on for about a hour a 1577 01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:51,080 Speaker 1: half cause y'all gonna be up to y'all to dance here, y'all, 1578 01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:53,559 Speaker 1: y'all are gonna want to usher, and I dance y'all, 1579 01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,040 Speaker 1: but that thing gonna be that'ld be lit. Let me 1580 01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:59,559 Speaker 1: ask you a question. Is there celebrity that someone in 1581 01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,240 Speaker 1: the in the business that you met and you like, 1582 01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:07,879 Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm talking to I'm in the presence 1583 01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:08,599 Speaker 1: of this person. 1584 01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:12,320 Speaker 3: Michael Jackson and Prince I got to meet them. You know. 1585 01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:18,840 Speaker 3: I think that artists, you know before my time, gave 1586 01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:21,800 Speaker 3: me that energy and that feeling. Now I would say, 1587 01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,400 Speaker 3: you know, when I meet, you know, my fellow peers, 1588 01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,880 Speaker 3: it's kind of like, oh, yoh, like you know what 1589 01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,559 Speaker 3: I mean, it's nice to see you, but that feeling 1590 01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:33,280 Speaker 3: that kind of like you know, star like you know 1591 01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:37,200 Speaker 3: shock I met. I met Michael Jackson on the set 1592 01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:41,400 Speaker 3: of You Rock My World. Shot was heating, he was 1593 01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:45,080 Speaker 3: he floated towards him, He floated towards me and then 1594 01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:48,840 Speaker 3: he bowed and he was like and he was like 1595 01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:51,840 Speaker 3: old Rodney. He was talking to Rodney and I was like, oh, 1596 01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:55,559 Speaker 3: he different. And then when I saw Prince it was 1597 01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:57,800 Speaker 3: a It was at the House of Blues, and it 1598 01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,800 Speaker 3: was like he had this u he had this like 1599 01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,439 Speaker 3: disappearing effect, you know what I mean. He walked in, 1600 01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,000 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, he was like he was 1601 01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,360 Speaker 3: behind me and I was like, oh, that's Prince. Then 1602 01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,400 Speaker 3: I looked back and he was gone, you know what 1603 01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:13,080 Speaker 3: I'm saying. So, yeah, those are the two people that 1604 01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,960 Speaker 3: I've met that have kind of had that like starstruck 1605 01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:17,519 Speaker 3: you know, effect on. 1606 01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,240 Speaker 1: But being from LA, are you a Lakers fan? 1607 01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:21,200 Speaker 3: Of course? 1608 01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,559 Speaker 1: So who So Lakers are your favorite team or do 1609 01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:26,200 Speaker 1: you have any favorite players? 1610 01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:34,160 Speaker 3: My new favorite player is jam Morant. Okay, that's my 1611 01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:39,680 Speaker 3: new favorite player. But definitely I mean Lebron the Lakers, 1612 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,160 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean I used 1613 01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:47,559 Speaker 3: to be a super big sports fan, not so much anymore, 1614 01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,080 Speaker 3: but you know, definitely Kobe, you know what I mean. 1615 01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,360 Speaker 3: But yeah, those are my favorite Alan Iverson you know. 1616 01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:54,920 Speaker 3: Of course, you know what I'm saying. 1617 01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,519 Speaker 1: Oh, appreciate your stopping my club shape giving me a 1618 01:20:58,560 --> 01:20:59,519 Speaker 1: few members of your time. 1619 01:20:59,560 --> 01:20:59,640 Speaker 3: Bro. 1620 01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:00,960 Speaker 1: All the best movies for. 1621 01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:05,760 Speaker 3: Love, Yeah, I gotta pack for you. Man, I got 1622 01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,360 Speaker 3: a gift for you. You know, I personally signed this book. 1623 01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:10,680 Speaker 3: I got you. I got you this essential oil that 1624 01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:14,320 Speaker 3: I have. Okay, it's called Unbothered. Okay, okay, and here 1625 01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:14,960 Speaker 3: you man. 1626 01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Yeah. Are you selling this oil? 1627 01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:24,639 Speaker 3: Not just yet, not just yet, but you of the book, Yes, sir, 1628 01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:26,439 Speaker 3: Unbothered the Power Choosing Joy. 1629 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:27,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1630 01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,280 Speaker 3: And if you, you know, are not inter reading, you 1631 01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:31,680 Speaker 3: can definitely catch it on audience. You know what I mean, 1632 01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:32,320 Speaker 3: because I did it. 1633 01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:34,600 Speaker 1: But I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Yeah. Is this 1634 01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:36,439 Speaker 1: a blanket in here? Or is a hoodie? Yeah? 1635 01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:42,200 Speaker 3: That's a hoodie. Hopefully it's the three acts. 1636 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:48,520 Speaker 1: I can work with you. That's where I can definitely. 1637 01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:52,720 Speaker 3: Wear that because you know you oh goom, but I'm trying. 1638 01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:56,559 Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop a few pounds here, old goom bro. 1639 01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:57,639 Speaker 3: Hey, thank you man. 1640 01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:04,920 Speaker 2: Love Yes, all my life and grinning all my life. Sacrifice, hustle, 1641 01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:08,240 Speaker 2: pay the price. Wanta slice? Got to brow the dice, 1642 01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,080 Speaker 2: the squad all my life. I've been grinding all my life, 1643 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,759 Speaker 2: all my life and grinning all my life. 1644 01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:18,240 Speaker 3: Sacrifice, hustle, pay the price. Want a slice? Got to 1645 01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:19,120 Speaker 3: brow the dice. 1646 01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:21,559 Speaker 2: Squaw all my life. I've been grinding all my life. 1647 01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:25,120 Speaker 3: M hm