1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Everybody, Thursday edition of The 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Lots of news to 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: break down for you today and just a matter of 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: weeks before decision day. Everybody, can you feel it? I 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: think it's it's feeling good. But we stay focused, we 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: stay frosty. We do not relent until the votes are 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: in and tabulated, and then perhaps celebration in some places 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: can begin. We've got a lot of stories today. Obviously, 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: the Biden Department of Justice plenty of time to go 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: chase down people for obstructing access to abortion clinics. You 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: can riot, you can loud, you can obstruct access to 13 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: anything in this country, it seems if you're a leftist. 14 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: But abortion clinics, for the bidendj are sacred. There are 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: special rules that apply if somebody has to walk around 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: you to get into one. Federal time. We'll discuss that 17 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:07,639 Speaker 1: big story there. We've also got the crime issue, which 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: the Democrats are realizing is really hitting hard Wisconsin and 19 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 1: the Mandela Barnes versus Ron Johnson Senate race. We're seeing 20 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: a big shift in relation to this the same thing 21 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. Clay, we're seeing this with doctor Oz and Fetterman. 22 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: I mean, Fetterman's a lunatic for a bunch of reasons. 23 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: On crime specifically, we will dive into some of that. 24 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: But the thing that I believe is settling into everybody's 25 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: minds today is we were all prepared for in the 26 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: aftermath of a horrific hurricane. I was just saying, a 27 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: friend of mine was posting Clay her she lives right 28 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: there on one of the house is gone, there is 29 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: no house, and where's posting video of this online? Just 30 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: to show people the devastation and to ask for donations 31 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: to the Florida Fund, etc. So it has been absolutely devastating. 32 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: It's a once in a certainly once in you know, 33 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: thirty forty years, maybe once in a century, powerful hurricane. 34 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: We were ready for them to say that not only 35 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: is Ron DeSantis doing a terrible job, meaning the lib media, 36 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: but it was his fault too in some capacity, right 37 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: because a climate change or whatever. The problem with that 38 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: is that so far, the response to this catastrophic event, 39 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: and our thoughts still go out to all of our 40 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: listeners in the state of Florida, who I know are 41 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: still dealing with this. We've been talking to our station 42 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: and Fort Myers and reaching out to people. But DeSantis 43 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: has been doing a very competent job in the response. 44 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: And here is Joe Biden. He was down in Florida 45 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: yesterday right after we finished this program, saying, yeah, Ron's 46 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: getting it done. Well, if the governor's done, is pretty 47 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: remarkable what he's done in terms of you know, it's 48 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: it's you know, first of all, the biggest thing governs 49 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: so many others. Then they recognize this thing called global warming. 50 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: The world is changed. Okay, just put aside his his 51 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, illiterate nonsense about global warming, Clay. I mean 52 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: there's photos. I think you saw this too. There was 53 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: one of the bridges that connected some of the barrier 54 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: islands around Fort Myers. Gone bridge has been and it's 55 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: a causeway. Causeway has been rebuilt already. Yeah. Yeah, this 56 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: is uh. When Joe Biden says that Ron DeSantis has 57 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: done a remarkable job, I'm just picturing Charlie Chris's campaign headquarters, 58 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: like everybody just simultaneously like throwing their phones down and 59 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: storming out, because remember Charlie Chris did his going on 60 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: all these different television shows talking about what a remarkable 61 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: job Joe Biden did, and he told everybody, hey, if 62 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: you voted for Rod de Santis, I don't want your support, 63 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: which is kind of a crazy thing to say, considering 64 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: Ron de Santis one in twenty eighteen, So in order 65 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: for anybody to beat him, you would have to flip 66 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: some of the DeSantis voters. And this effectively ended it. Now, Buck, 67 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: I will say, I think Kamala Harris's equity comments stepped 68 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: so much into the limelight when she was saying that 69 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: we had to respond to the hurricane based on equity 70 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: and based on race, as opposed to doing what we've 71 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: always done, which is handle all of the people who 72 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: need help the most, whether they're white, Black, Asian, Hispanic, 73 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: whoever they are. Now they've come in and they've got 74 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: their fact checkers out, and they said, well, she didn't 75 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: really mean that, and you watch the video and you're like, ah, no, 76 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: she said it. And I think that was such a 77 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:44,679 Speaker 1: major line of attack that basically everybody just waved that off. 78 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,679 Speaker 1: In conjunction with I do think Ron DeSantis, as we said, 79 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: would likely be the case. The guy's just really good 80 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 1: at governing. He's very smart. He has really talented people 81 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: surrounding him, and they have done about as good of 82 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: a job as is possible responding to this hurricane and 83 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: being prepared for it. And to me, block this just 84 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: solidifies he's gonna win Florida in a landslide, in whatever 85 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: it is, thirty three days. And you know, DeSantis is 86 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: also the governor Florida's being a professional about this, an 87 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: adult about this whole situation. He really is lazier focused 88 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: on helping Floridians through what is a terrible time. We 89 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: all know. We've all seen the footage. We've heard from 90 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: people who have lost their homes, we've heard from people 91 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: whose businesses have been entirely flooded. And Descantist is all 92 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: about mission right now, the mission of getting Florida back 93 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: on its feet. And so he's not making this cheap 94 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: and political. Here's what he said. We were very fortunate 95 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: to have good coordination with White House and with FEMA 96 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: from the very beginning of this. We declared a state 97 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: of emergency last Friday, September twenty third. This wasn't even 98 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: this was a disturbance out there by Columbia and then 99 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: the next day we got a major disaster declaration approved 100 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: by the President and we really appreciated that, and that 101 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: basically set off the massive mobilization that we had ready 102 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: to be able to respond to this storm. It's about 103 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: getting the job done, Clay. And the other thing about 104 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: DeSantis in this whole situation is that they know we've 105 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: seen riot reporters in the past. We've seen if you're 106 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: gonna come at DeSantis, you better not miss because if 107 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna say you messed up this part of the response, 108 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: he's going to say, really explain how what would be different? 109 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: Do you know what you're talking about? So the lies 110 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: are much tougher with him to get away with no doubt. 111 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: And this is why I would say some people say, oh, 112 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: DeSantis has not been challenged on a national stage yet, 113 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: because I believe Ron DeSantis is going to run for president. 114 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: You and I have been saying it for a while. 115 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: It's going to be an absolute Donnie Brook between he 116 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: and Donald Trump, who I believe is also going to 117 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: run for basically all of twenty twenty three and as 118 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: soon as the Santis wins reelection, effectively in Florida, Trump's 119 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: gonna announce he's gonna run shortly thereafter. I think the 120 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: Santos will probably wait till February or March to officially 121 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: enter into the race, That's my guess, And there'll be 122 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: a quiet sort of sizing up of both guys because 123 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, as you well know, Buck and I 124 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: know a lot of our listeners do too, there's the 125 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: quiet primary season where everybody tries to sign up the 126 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: super rich donors, the super rich, plugged in political connected 127 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: class to be on their team effectively for the primary season. 128 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: And that kind of occurs behind the scenes, although there's 129 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: a lot of events associated with it that are going on. 130 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: But think about this for a moment, because some people 131 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: I've seen this criticism, Oh, you don't know how the 132 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: sants is going to do on the national stage. I 133 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: think he's going to do pretty well. One we just 134 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: had the hurricane. We see how well he's responding to that. 135 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: They don't say gay controversy. He went right into it. 136 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: He went toe to toe with Disney. He walked up 137 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: to the biggest brand in his whole state and just 138 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: flat out knocked him down. There's a good story and 139 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: variety about how Disney just decided to basically abandon politics 140 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: in the wake of how much they got ripped over 141 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: that entire policy buck we know COVID, I mean, Ronda 142 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 1: Santis was the most attacked Republican in the country over 143 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: COVID four years, and he was unwilling to bow down. 144 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: He refused to apologize, And so I think he's uniquely 145 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: well suited to be able to step onto the stage. 146 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: And I think Republicans all over the country, including certainly 147 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: in Florida, the ones who know him best, are going 148 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: to have to make a decision who's the best nominee 149 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four? Is it going to because I 150 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be one of these two guys. Is 151 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: it going to be Donald Trump or Ronda Santis? And 152 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have a long, big heavyweight battle, 153 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: fifteen rounder like they used to have back in the day, 154 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: where both these guys stand in the ring and throw 155 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: punches at each other. It seems possible to me that 156 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: maybe descentists look at Trump announces, and we both are 157 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: very confident that he will announce and run again, right, 158 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: I mean, there's it would be a shock to you 159 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: take a major health related, right, I mean, it would 160 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: have to be something about lightning strike issue. I mean, 161 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: it would have to be something out of nowhere. But 162 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not one hundred percent. Well, first of all, 163 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: we're talking about the future, so no one's one hundred percent. Yeah, 164 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: I could see. I could see the governor of santists though. 165 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: Look what he's doing in Florida. I mean, he's essentially 166 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: turning Florida into a GOP stronghold, really right up there 167 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: with Texas, and some say in many ways even starting 168 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: to surpass Texas in terms of leadership, not as a state. 169 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: I know, we got a lot of Texans. We love 170 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: all of you. I'm not saying one's better than the other. 171 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: I just capital of the Republican Party has shifted, I 172 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:51,119 Speaker 1: think to Florida. That's what I'm The leadership, the leadership 173 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: seems to be more in Florida than it is coming 174 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: out of any other state right now, and consolidation and 175 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: the continued I mean, look at the moment to him 176 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: that's going on right now in that state, all the 177 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: people moving there, everything else. But it's just it's noteworthy 178 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: because really the beginning of the end of the of 179 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: the Bush presidency as something that was even defensible, where 180 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: you know, people just all of a sudden, even on 181 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: the right, we're like, I don't even know what to 182 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: say anymore. Um was whether it was fair about the 183 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: response on Bush's lap or not. It was Hurricane Katrina. 184 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: I mean that was you know, obviously the response, it 185 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: was a devastating, devastating hurricane response was totally insufficient. You know, 186 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: Trump is the guys you can always I'm sorry, Bush 187 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: was the guys you can always argue that, you know, 188 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: the buck stops with him, and I think there's there's 189 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: some fairness to that, but his presidency never recovered from that. 190 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: I do think there were Democrats Democrat media who were 191 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: lined up secretly hoping, secretly hoping that this was going 192 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: to be an opportunity where they get to Santa Cina. 193 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: Oh we you know, I didn't realize that, you know, 194 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: there'd be this much power out, you know, something like that. 195 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: He has just been he's almost been like a master 196 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: relief cyborg, like he's just yeah on it, totally on mission, 197 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: totally focused, putting on kind of a leadership clinic. In 198 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: some ways, I think that, honestly, I would hope that 199 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: even Democrats would pay very close attention to because when 200 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: you're talking about there a few things, wars, natural disasters, 201 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: we just want the best leadership possible, right all of 202 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: a sudden, you should put aside what your party affiliation is. 203 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: And I think it's a testament to how well the 204 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: Santists has handled it that yesterday there was this kind 205 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: of high five moment between Biden and Desantists over the 206 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: response obviously a very difficult situation in Florida, but over 207 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: the way that they're coordinating. If there was any daylight 208 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: for Biden to have just given a little bit of 209 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: a shot, you know, Biden to just throw an elbow 210 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: up there, to create the opening for the media avalanche, 211 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: it would have happened. But there's no daylight, there's no opportunity. 212 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: I also think it was really interesting to see, First 213 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: of all, I don't know if this is normal, but 214 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: De Santists stood behind the presidential seal. They only had 215 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: one podium. I kind of expected that they would have 216 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: the president's podium and the Governor of Florida's podium. I 217 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: don't know how many pekah over here. Yeah, I just 218 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: I thought that was I don't know exactly the logistics 219 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: behind how these things are typically done. But I would 220 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: have expected DeSantis as his Florida's Seal podium, and then 221 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: you have the presidential seal podium. But the difference, and 222 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: I know partly it's age, but the ability for De 223 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: Santis speaking versus Biden speaking, if you watched that interplay, 224 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: one going to the other, even the way they walk around, 225 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: and granted, I understand there's a forty three year old 226 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: guy and there's I think Biden seventy nine now if 227 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, and that's a big age range gap, 228 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: and that's you know, dad and son out for a 229 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: golf around, like the seventy nine year old dad is 230 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: going Grandpa is going to play a lot slower than 231 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: forty three year olds on But it felt very visceral 232 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: in terms of I can't believe that we have all 233 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: of these otherwise young buck forty fifty even sixty year 234 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: old politicians out there, and Joe Biden when we face 235 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: a legitimate threat of nuclear war is the guy who 236 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: is analyzing all of this information in theory and trying 237 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: to make decisions. It just that age gap was startling 238 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: to me when they were both standing at the same 239 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: podium to see how stark it was. Joe Biden's too 240 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: old for the job. There are Democrats who are avoiding 241 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: the question. Now I'm getting a little oh, because a 242 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: couple of days ago they're running the story about Biden 243 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: telling Al Sharpton this was just a report. Oh, he's 244 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: definitely running again. And now you got a bunch of 245 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: Democrats who are being asked you see this last day 246 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: or so, and they're going, it's nuance complicated, many factors. 247 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: It's like, wait a second, he's the leader of your party, 248 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: including ever and Rafael Warnock, who's trying to win an 249 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: reelection to his Senate seat and won't say whether he 250 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: thinks Joe Biden should run either, because Joe Biden's got 251 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: forty percent approval ratings in a state. 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No risk, high reward, 270 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: Get Refunds dot Com. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck 271 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: Sexton show. But you were talking about, and I agree 272 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: with it, that Florida has now become the capital of 273 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: the Republican Party and it's either going to be Texas 274 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: or Florida because they're by far the two biggest red 275 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: states that have Republican governors right now. Now, Florida obviously 276 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: much closer to a toss up state historically than Texas 277 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: has been. But we're gonna have a lot of time 278 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: to talk about Trump versus De Santis. But this felt 279 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: like a capstone moment. And I do believe do you 280 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: buy into to my theory that Kamalas stepped all over 281 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: herself to such an extent that Democrats wanted to run away. 282 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: They didn't really have any opportunity because Kamala was the 283 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: news making entity in the hurricane. In response, well, they 284 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: were forced to play defense at a moment when they 285 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: needed for their attack purposes to go right on offense. 286 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: So I think it it discombobulated them a little bit. 287 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: I think it put them on their back foot. Um, 288 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: but I think more than anything else, they they're looking 289 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: for a point of attack against Assantis on this and 290 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: there's just been the preparation. I mean, you can't argue 291 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: with the numbers. You can't argue I think ninety seven Actually, hold, 292 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: let me check ninety seven or ninety eight percent? You're 293 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: right if people all have their power have their power back, Yeah, 294 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: I mean you just you can't argue with that in 295 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: terms of a response from from millions of people without 296 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: power to ninety seven percent of people back having their 297 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: power back in how many days? So you know, the 298 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: response at some level, I think speaks for itself. And 299 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: also all of yeah, there's all the devastation photos, there's 300 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: also the photos of amazing first responders. Those electrical linemen. 301 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: I mean they were they were they were lined up 302 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: like an army of electricity. You know, they were ready 303 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: to go. You called it, and when we were talking, 304 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: you said, Hey, given how good the Santis was on COVID, 305 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: I think he's going to respond as well as any 306 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: governor could to a natural disaster of this magnitude. The 307 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: Santists basically said that yesterday at the rostrum with Joe Biden. Listen, 308 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: for as our counties and municipalities, they have the boots 309 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: on the ground, they're involved every day in life safety missions, 310 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: whether it's police, fire, rescue, you name it. The state 311 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: we manage and coordinate amongst various counties, and then of 312 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: course the federal government FEMA providing support. And I think 313 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: we've worked as well across state, local and federal of 314 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: any disaster that I've seen. And so if I think 315 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: one of the things that you're seeing in this response, 316 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: we are cutting through the bureaucracy. We are cutting through 317 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: the red tape, and that's from local government, state government, 318 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: all the way up to the president. So we appreciate 319 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: the team effort. 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And we have a decision that 339 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: came down today from the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals 340 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: about our border immigration, specifically DOCCA, the Deferred Action for 341 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: a Childhood Arrivals program, and it has at least four 342 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: now said that they cannot continue to expand DACA. Although 343 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: the so called dreamers, people that were allegedly brought here 344 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: as children, they are about they're about six hundred thousand 345 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: of them. They still have protection from deportation. But the 346 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: Fifth Circuit is saying, look, you can't just keep expanding 347 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: this program. That's really the plan of the Democrats all along, 348 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: is if they can't just get outright amnesty, stealth amnesty, 349 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: which is what DOCCA becomes. Anybody who's curious, you go 350 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: back and see what happened with the amnesty that yes, 351 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: and he admitted that he got fooled, So he would 352 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: not if he were around today, the Great Ronald Reagan 353 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: would not say this is an unfair criticism. He got 354 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: fooled into signing an amnesty where there were all these 355 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: promises for the processes that would go in place. I 356 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: think this was nineteen eighty six, Mojo, would you check 357 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: me on that one. I think it's nineteen eighty six amnesty. 358 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 1: They were still as if I think the early two 359 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: thousands hearing cases in court from people who claim to 360 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: be covered under that amnesty. So it turns into a 361 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: giant legal mess all of a sudden, everybody. The more 362 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: you expand the program, everybody came here as a child. 363 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: Nobody just showed up five minutes ago. Our border is 364 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: a total disaster. Well, I think is so interesting, and 365 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: it is the worst the border has ever been. Clay, 366 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: we talk about this all the time. It's an issue 367 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: where twenty percent by twenty percent margin Republicans are more 368 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: trusted than Democrats. Doesn't seem to be as much focus 369 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: on it right now as there had been in recent weeks. 370 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: We can come back to it. Lindsey Graham remember the 371 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: Senate that everybody here is quite familiar with in the 372 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: game a long time. He does seem much more concerned 373 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: with Ukraine's borders then with America's borders. I see a 374 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: lot more hawkish talk from him about how we got 375 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: to go all out to the wall in our support 376 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: of the Ukrainian military against Russia. And there's this Elon 377 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: Musk back and forth. Right, he says on Twitter, this 378 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: just happened, This just happened last hour. When I say 379 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: I respect Elon Musk, I'm not kidding. I've known him 380 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: for years, etcetera, etcetera. Starling system has helped Ukraine. My 381 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: concern with his Russian peace proposal is he is legitimizing 382 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: one of the greatest crimes of the twenty first century 383 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: by Putin. First of all, we're not very deep into 384 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: the twenty fourth century, but put that aside. Yeah, I 385 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: do not want to see Elon Musk become the Henry 386 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: Ford of our time, a great industrialist, a genius manufacturer, 387 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: who gives voice to evil in pursuit of peace. Oh so, 388 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: if we just want a negotiated settlement in Ukraine, if 389 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: we're not going to just go all out everything with 390 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: Putin's Russia with its thousands of nukes, we're like Henry 391 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: Ford appeasing Hitler in World War Two. That's where we are. Okay. 392 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: I don't understand what the perspective of a guy like 393 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham is because if you look at the map, 394 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: even with Ukrainian success. Correct me if I'm wrong, Buck. 395 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: It seems highly unlikely that Ukraine is going to force 396 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: Russia all the way back out of Ukraine, especially with 397 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of conscripts coming in. Even with the success, 398 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: the advances that they've had in the northeast, the advances 399 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: that they've had in the south, if you look at 400 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: that map, there still is a substantial amount of territory 401 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: that is controlled by Russia. So I don't understand why suggesting, hey, 402 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: let's resolve this situation in some way, and what Elon 403 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: Musk suggested made a lot of sense to me, Buck, 404 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: And again, you're more plugged in on this region and 405 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: on this conflict than me. But essentially, what Ivon Musk 406 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: suggested was, let's have a un sponsored referendum that allows 407 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: the residence of these disputed areas of Ukraine that are 408 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: on the border with Russia to make a decision about 409 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 1: whether they would rather be a part of Russia or 410 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: Ukraine and accept whatever results come out of that referendum, 411 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: again in a un sponsored way where everybody has freedom 412 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: to make their own choices. Because a lot of those 413 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: people in the border regions of Ukraine do have substantial 414 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: loyalties to Russia. That isn't the true for all of them, 415 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: but if we had an honest and fair election, some 416 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: of those places may well vote to be a part 417 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: of Russia. A couple of thoughts on this as well. 418 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: The first off, I just think it's fascinating from these 419 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: neo Khan interventionists, people like Lindsay Graham. Lindsay Graham has 420 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: been very wrong on a lot of foreign policy for 421 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: a very long time. People in South Carolina keep voting 422 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: him into office. I don't really know why, but he's 423 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: been very wrong on foreign policy and always taking the 424 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: position of maximum US expenditure of lives and treasure abroad. 425 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: That's just the way he is. He's a he's a 426 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: we go we fight them everywhere until we're done fighting 427 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: them anywhere. That's his philosophy as far as I can tell. 428 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: If it's not, i'd love someone to explain how. Here's 429 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: the thing in Eastern Ukraine, and I've known some Eastern 430 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: Ukrainians in my day, there are people who for whom 431 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: Russian identity is stronger than there. This is just a fact. 432 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: And now this this goes into the you know, when 433 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,959 Speaker 1: they attack Tucker and others. They say, oh, it's Putin 434 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: propaganda and talking point. This is just the truth. So 435 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: they can call it propaganda, but it's just the truth. 436 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: There are regions in the Dunbas area where people consider 437 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: Russian their first language and Russian identity much more their 438 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: own than Ukrainian identity, and would prefer to be in 439 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: the Russian Federation. That is a fact. People can get 440 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: angry about it, but that is the truth that we 441 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: need to be aware of. To the point about the 442 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: referendum that Elon must brings up, I would say the 443 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: problem with the referendum is, first of all, I mean 444 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: even getting it to that point, it's going to take 445 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: you know, the UN. You and I are going to 446 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: be talking about our grandkids by the time the UN 447 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: actually does anything in this part of the world. The 448 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: UN really exists just to have meetings about how the 449 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: UN has failed yet again to prevent conflict. That's the 450 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: purpose of the UN. But the reality is, even if 451 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: you had a referendum, let's say it went against Russia, 452 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: what do we think Putin does? Then he probably goes, yeah, 453 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think we're going to hang out 454 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: for a little bit while what's what he's already doing, right, 455 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: because some of the areas that he's a next have 456 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,959 Speaker 1: now already gone back to Ukrainian control, you know, So 457 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: ultimately you're going to require guys, you know, if you're 458 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: really gonna push him out, you're going to require guys 459 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: with guns and in this case actually tanks, artillery and 460 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: complicated mechanized infantry maneuvers, etc. With force and causing substantial casualties, 461 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: beat the Russians back to their own territory. And then 462 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: the question that should be raised is, Okay, if that's 463 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: where we're heading, do we really just think that Vladimir 464 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: Putin will accept an L on this one, a straight 465 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: up L with a loss, without firing off a tactical 466 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: nuclear weapon just to basically say you're not coming anymore, 467 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: You're done, you stop, or else I fire another one. 468 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: That's the big question. I think Lindsey Graham should take this, 469 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: you know, a little more seriously, But he just seems 470 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: to think it's like he's been asleep during I Rock 471 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: and Afghanistan and Syria and Libya, all the great foreign 472 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: policy interventions that we've had in the last twenty years. Well, also, 473 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: it still begs the question. We had this conversation earlier 474 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: this week, what happens if Putin uses a tactical nuke. 475 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: Let's presume that he doesn't. The big question is still 476 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: how does this end? And I don't understand how Elon 477 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: Musk proposing a potential into a conflict that could end 478 00:26:54,160 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: in nuclear conflagration is in some way unacceptable sceptable idea, 479 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: because the foreign policy elites in this country still think 480 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: they sound smart and strong by saying till, you know, 481 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: till the end, we're with Ukraine, no matter what, doesn't 482 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: matter what the casualties are, doesn't matter what the Russian 483 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: response is. Until every Russian boot is off of Ukrainian soil, 484 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: we will keep sending them checks, we will keep sending 485 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: them munitions that are you know, the example of this, 486 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: by the way, that's supposed to be the great success 487 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: was Afghanistan with the Mujahideen. That didn't actually end the 488 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: way we really wanted it to everybody I know, one 489 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 1: ever kind of goes to the next step, the next phase. Yeah, 490 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: that's my question of how long it would take to 491 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: get every Russian boot off of Ukraine, and whether it's 492 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: even remotely feasible, which is why I think trying to 493 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 1: figure out some form of negotiated settlement is probably the 494 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: most adequate and intelligent move that we could make. I'm 495 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: always of the opinion that if we could stop people 496 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: from dying, including a lot of civilians, it's a good thing. 497 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: That's the thing we do as quickly as we can. Yeah, 498 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: the who's in charge of a region of a country 499 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: very far away? That what percentage of people? Not just 500 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: that there's this in America, in any country could find 501 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: the dawn boss if you weren't labeling these less than 502 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: one one hundredth of one percent. Okay, Ever, they need 503 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: to calm down in Lindsey Graham's camp on this one. Yeah. 504 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: And also the analogy doesn't make sense because I think, 505 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: is there anyone out there who actually believes that Putin 506 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: is going to invade other countries, especially they are NATO back. 507 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,959 Speaker 1: You're totally right, Clay, this this domino theory of Russian 508 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: You know what other countries are seeing. Remember in the 509 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: beginning people saying, oh, China, Taiwan, that's coming next. You 510 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: know what. The one of the lessons has been of 511 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: all this is taking over a country, even that you 512 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: think you're right next door and you it's actually really 513 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: hard when people stand and fight. It actually is really bloody. 514 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: Russia has lost at I mean, they've taken tens of 515 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: thousands of casualties at this point, tens of thousands of 516 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: casualties for very little will gain in that country territorially. 517 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: So this notion that every other coin, oh they're just 518 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: gonna invade. No, they're gonna say, oh my gosh, if 519 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: Russia can't pull this off, we got to really think 520 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: about what this would look like for us again. The 521 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: foreign policy elites, they all look at each other, aren't 522 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: we so smart? And they take the exact wrong lessons 523 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: from everything. Food prices are upcast prices are through the 524 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: roof every single item I can think of, every service. 525 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: It feels like it's just seeing it price skyrocket recently. 526 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: But you know what doesn't do that. You know who 527 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: hasn't raised their prices? 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You'll say fifty percent off your first month. 538 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: Enjoy superior coverage and save money. Just dial pound two 539 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: five zero and say Clay and Buck to switch to 540 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: the cell service. We're on pure Talk. Welcome back in 541 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We are going to continue 542 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: to update you on the battle for the Senate as 543 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: we roll into was it thirty three days I believe 544 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: right now, Buck from the official mid term a little 545 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: bit over four weeks. It will be four weeks out 546 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, and at the top of the next hour, 547 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to dive into this in a little bit 548 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: greater detail. But things are looking really, really good for 549 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: Adam Laxalt in Nevada for basically that state to flip red. 550 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: Governor's race looking good, the Senate race looking good, and 551 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: I would argue that that is the reason why all 552 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: of these attacks are now raining down on her shall 553 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: Walker so aggressively because our boy Ron Johnson up in Wisconsin. 554 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: There's an article. Remember we talked buck about how the 555 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: New York Times basically let it be known to everybody 556 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,959 Speaker 1: that Stacy Abrahams was going to get gonna get totally 557 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: waxed in that race in George. And we said, this 558 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: is interesting that they would write this. Now there's a 559 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: New York Times article about Mandela Barnes, who was running 560 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: against Senator Johnson, and it ends with them saying Senator 561 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: Johnson is so confident he was happy to go on 562 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: Twitter and show how fast he could drink a beer 563 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: after he got endorsed by the local Brewers Union or 564 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: whatever it was, and by credit to him, pounded a 565 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: pint and under four seconds of Miller Lite. But this 566 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: is interesting to me, and I think that the crime 567 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: issue overall, and let's be clear about this, it is 568 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: the massive nationwide decrease in security of persons and property 569 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: across the United States as a direct consequence of bad 570 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: ideas of racial politics, of you know, lunatic decision making 571 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: from Democrats. Okay, that is exactly what has led to this. 572 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: That is the reason why we have seen that the 573 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: defund police and mass incarceration, the social justice over criminal 574 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: justice mindset, and for a lot of people, if you're 575 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: thinking who should I vote for when one party so 576 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: clearly has made it more likely that you may be carjacked, 577 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: that you may have somebody pull a gun and put 578 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: it in your face. You know just I mean, I 579 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: was telling you of one of Carrie's friends out in 580 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: California was had a baby stroller and a lunatic ran 581 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: up in an assaulted her and tried to steal her purse. 582 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: And it's like, when this stuff happens to people, they 583 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: get angry and they want to blame the people who 584 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: are to blame, which is Democrats. So that's why I 585 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: think this is um This is actually finely really set 586 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: setting in as a major driver, and it should be 587 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: a major driver for this election. You know what I mean, 588 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: if you live in the state of Oregon, if you 589 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: live in the state of Nevada. By the way, I 590 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: get emails every time you say the other way, they 591 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: yell at me. Just so you know, I get yelled 592 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: at like when you gave Batman. Eventually I'm gonna go 593 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pronounce it right. Nevada did I say it right? 594 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: That Nevada? Yes, Nevada. And if you I think I'm 595 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: like the Clay whisperer people like to play to do this, 596 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, he's Clay. He doesn't Nevada, Nevada, Nevada? Correct? Yes, So, 597 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: but with Washington State, I mean all these places, you 598 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: have an opportunity to try to turn things around and 599 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: if anything else, show your displeasure with the lunatics who 600 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: have made it so just essentially decriminalized crime. I don't 601 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: know what else to say. These people are crazy. Okay, 602 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: so two data points and you're probably not going to 603 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: hear anywhere else. I love, as we have talked about 604 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: a lot, to follow the gambling markets because I want 605 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: to see where people are really putting their money offshore. 606 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: Right now, I'm lack salt in Nevada has moved out. 607 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: Did I'd say it wrong again? Has moved out to 608 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: minus two hundred? All right? He is now at minus 609 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: two hundred. The money is all pouring in on him. 610 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: He is going to win that Senate seat. All When 611 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: I say this, I don't feel like I need to 612 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: do it every time, but I kind of do. You 613 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 1: still have to show up and vote. All right, So 614 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: I want to be accused of like driving down turnout 615 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 1: because I'm telling you that things are going well. All 616 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: of you out there listening still have to show up 617 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: and do your civic duty and actually vote. Don't allow 618 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: me telling you that things are going well for you 619 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 1: to suddenly say, well, I've got a little league basketball game, 620 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,479 Speaker 1: my kids are busy. I'm not no get your votes 621 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: in all right, but he is going to win this state. 622 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: What I'm giving you, and I'll build on this to 623 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: start the next hour. This is where the Herschel attacks 624 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: are coming from. So lack Salt is winning. That's plus one. 625 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: That's a Democrat seat that's going off the board. If 626 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: every thing else stayed the same, that would mean Republicans 627 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: take the Senate. Okay, there are other places of attack. 628 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: Our boy, Ron Johnson, I was just talking about it. 629 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 1: He is starting to blow out Mandela Barnes in Wisconsin. 630 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: Everybody in Wisconsin still needs to vote. But in the 631 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: odds market, Ron Johnson is out to minus three fifty. 632 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: He is a big favorite. Means you have to wage 633 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: your three hundred and fifty dollars to get back one 634 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: hundred dollars and all the money is pouring in on him, 635 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: It's all pouring in on Laxalt, and there's increasing nervousness 636 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 1: about Fetterman, who is a disaster of a candidate, and 637 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: that they are going to win Pennsylvania. What does that 638 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: all mean that if they lose Georgia, if they lose Georgia, 639 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: they are going to lose the Senate one hundred percent. 640 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: So herschel Walker, big circle, big X. He is the target. 641 00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: Georgia is the Democrats Senate Maginola. For you history fans 642 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 1: out there, you remember how that went, by the way, Yes, 643 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 1: he is their target. So for everybody out there listening, 644 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 1: Georgia gave Biden the Senate in January of twenty twenty one. 645 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: Two special elections that were lost cost the country trillions 646 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 1: of dollars. Georgia, you are getting an opportunity for a redo. 647 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: The center of the nation is now pivoting to you 648 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: and this race. We're going to tell you about it next. 649 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: George is on our mind.