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Speaker 1: You're listening to Hawk Talk with former Seahawks wide receiver

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Speaker 1: Michael Bumpus. Play fake, go to roll right, dumps it

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Speaker 1: off into the right flasf to Michael Bumpers, who bounces

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Speaker 1: off a one tackler gets inside the forty down of

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Speaker 1: the thirty five yard line. Powered by Seahawks dot Com,

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Speaker 1: Matt pumpfake's looking to the gold line.

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Speaker 2: He throws it into the m zone. Touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Say Hawks, it's Michael Bumps with.

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Speaker 1: A diving catching the end zone.

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Speaker 2: A ten yard.

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Speaker 4: Touchdown reception for Bumpers, and the kid out of Washington

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Speaker 4: State has found himself a place.

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Speaker 3: On this team.

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Speaker 1: Now here's your host, Nasa Chobee.

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Speaker 4: Welcome into another edition of Hawk Talk, getting you ready

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Speaker 4: for the Seahawks and lines this weekend as the Seahawks

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Speaker 4: tried to get over that Week one loss to the Rams.

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Speaker 4: I'm Nasa chobe I'm here with my guy, Michael Bumpus,

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Speaker 4: and before we get into the lines, get on tap.

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Speaker 4: I got a little injury update. Some roster moves going

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Speaker 4: down with the Seahawks on Wednesday. Unfortunately, guard or tackle

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Speaker 4: Abraham Lucas is going to IR, meaning he's not eligible

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Speaker 4: returned for at least another four games. The Seahawks were

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Speaker 4: active adding some depth to the roster at tackle, signing

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Speaker 4: a pair of undrafted rookies to the fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 4: Tackle Rokwan O'Neill signed off Tampa Bay's practice squad, while

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Speaker 4: McClinton and Curtis signed out for Las Vegas practice squad.

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Speaker 4: O'Neill went undrafted out of UCLA, starting thirteen games at

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Speaker 4: left tackle last season, and Curtis played out of Tennessee Chattanooga,

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Speaker 4: starting thirty eight games in his college career. Also earlier

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Speaker 4: this week, the Seahawks signed veteran Jason Peters you remember

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Speaker 4: him from the Cowboys and most notably the Eagles and Bills,

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Speaker 4: as well as Greg Island to their practice squad Tuesday

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Speaker 4: before Curtis and O'Neill. So a little update there for everybody.

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Speaker 4: Not what you're looking for from a health perspective, but

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Speaker 4: the Seahawks will make it work. Adding some depth to

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Speaker 4: that offensive line. Let's get back into the Lions. What's

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Speaker 4: on tap?

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Speaker 1: What's on tap?

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Speaker 2: Bump man? These lines are for real.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're one to zero beat the Chief. Opening week,

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Speaker 4: they're celebrating their Super Bowl trophy bomb. But what have

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Speaker 4: you seen from this line seem so far this year?

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Speaker 5: Hey, Like you said that for real, and they're not

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Speaker 5: sneaking up on anybody, man. They finished winning eight of

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Speaker 5: their last ten games last season and got a victory

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Speaker 5: at lambeau Field that helped us out.

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Speaker 3: So thank you, Lines.

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Speaker 5: We appreciate your contributions to the Seattle Seahawks got us

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Speaker 5: into the playoffs, and early in the season we played

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Speaker 5: them and we saw the potential of this team, and

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Speaker 5: as the season unfolded, you're thinking, man, these guys are

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Speaker 5: for real.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 5: Jared Golf was over there doing this thing. The run

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Speaker 5: game was good. That changed a little bit. But always

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Speaker 5: go back to when people were laughing at Dan Campbell,

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Speaker 5: we're gonna be biting at the knee cast. And they

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Speaker 5: just showed that part of the conference. They didn't of

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Speaker 5: the conference. They didn't show the whole thing. There was

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Speaker 5: a lot more substance behind what he was saying. But

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Speaker 5: you know how they do on the media. They're gonna

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Speaker 5: isolate some things and then highlight that. But they came

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Speaker 5: out swinging, and you mentioned they beat the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 5: Can see Chiefs were in celebration mode. We just won

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Speaker 5: a Super Bowl last year. That's half good times Thursday

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Speaker 5: night football, and the Lions came in and said, nah,

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Speaker 5: we get on that. We're gonna go ahead and get

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Speaker 5: this w and move along. I was impressed. Even if

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Speaker 3: I don't care about none of that.

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Speaker 5: You're the defending champions and the Detroit Lions say, y'all

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Speaker 5: better take us serious.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't care where it is. I mean, the

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Speaker 4: Seahawks learned that Week one, the Bengals learned that. Everyone

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Speaker 4: learned that it's a National Football League. Anyone can went

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Speaker 4: on then and give a Sunday So to go to

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Speaker 4: super impressive. I mean the game, you know, did Travis

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Speaker 2: Of course it did.

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Speaker 4: Of the best sight ends in the game, but they

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Speaker 4: look into this head to head bump man, It's only

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Speaker 4: been one week, right, so we talk about this every year.

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Speaker 4: the flip side, not looking good. Bump Seahawks thirtieth after

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Speaker 4: So obviously it's been one week, two different results. Lions

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Speaker 4: So not gonna look good here. But this is kind

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I am.

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Speaker 5: When you look at the just the defense, right, you

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Speaker 5: the Seahawks gave a four hundred and twenty six yards

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Speaker 5: Last week, right, according to last week, I like this

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Speaker 5: remind people that then passed defense thirty first, not good,

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Speaker 5: three under and thirty four. Matthew Stafford had the day.

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Speaker 5: for the Detroit Lions, gave a three in the sixteen

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Speaker 3: They were only sacked one time.

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Speaker 5: Jared Goff was only sacked twenty three times last year,

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Speaker 5: When it comes to penalties, the Detroit Lions were a

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Speaker 5: we definitively know who each team is. We know what

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Speaker 5: So look at these numbers and I say, all right,

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Speaker 5: you can't ignore them.

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Speaker 3: It's truth. But this is a long season. We're only

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: You know, one thing that I like about the Seahawks

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Speaker 4: is no turnovers. So if we're looking at more positive

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Speaker 4: from week one, they didn't turn the ball over. You

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Speaker 4: mentioned penalties. They're going to clean that up, so definitely

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Speaker 4: love that. And on the other side those the Lions

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Speaker 2: But it's one game.

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Speaker 4: As you said, hoping the Seahawks can drastically improve all

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Speaker 4: their numbers because we know the potential of this football team,

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Speaker 4: and that wasn't it last Sunday. But these two teams

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Speaker 4: the history, No.

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Speaker 2: Your history.

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Speaker 4: Seahawks leads the all time series eleven to five. They're

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Speaker 4: one to zero in the postseason. The Seahawks have also

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Speaker 4: won seven of their last eight. Last year, Man, that

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Speaker 4: They beat the lines forty eight to forty five, didn't

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Speaker 4: combined for one thousand and seventy five yards of total offense.

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Speaker 4: Gino Smith had a day throwing for three hundred yards

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Speaker 5: Man, that game was entertaining if you didn't have a

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Speaker 3: Everyone loves good offense.

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Speaker 5: You got both of that, and that was I remember

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Speaker 5: that game because Treek Wooland undercut a pass across the

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Speaker 5: one of the times where I'm like, oh, on, we

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Speaker 5: But yeah, man, we all have offense.

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Speaker 3: We got a lot of offense there.

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Speaker 5: I hope that we see some of the same numbers,

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Speaker 5: but for the Seahawks this week, not for those danglines.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would love to see forty eight again. I

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Speaker 4: would love to see no fours, no threes.

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Speaker 2: Keep me in the twenties. I'd like to see that.

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Speaker 3: Please both like that.

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Speaker 4: We'll see, we'll see. But let's check in on the

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Speaker 4: rest of the NFC West.

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Speaker 2: What's the word and.

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Speaker 1: The Seahawks or the NFC West champs again?

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Speaker 2: What's the word in the West?

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Speaker 3: On HOWK talk?

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Speaker 5: All right, man, we've got some action in the West

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Speaker 5: right now. The Rams sitting up top with forty nine ers.

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Speaker 5: They're both want to Oh, we know the Hawks loss

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Speaker 5: and the Arizona Cardinals loss as well, But let's go

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Speaker 5: to Pittsburgh. Man, those forty nine ers, and we learned

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Speaker 5: some week one. They're still good.

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Speaker 3: Alright. I know it's Week one.

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Speaker 5: I know the numbers are what they are, but if

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Speaker 3: The main thing we want to see right is Brock Purty.

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Speaker 4: Now, well, the scary part is Drake Jackson, right, So

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Speaker 5: He looked, he looked good any games. You gotta see,

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Speaker 5: How many more do you need to believe?

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Speaker 4: Give me to October Dog, Give me to October bump

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Speaker 4: But he's we'll see. We didn't learn much there that

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Speaker 4: you're looking for a quarterback. James Connor sixty two yards

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Speaker 2: I got a.

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Speaker 3: Theory for you, got a theory?

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Speaker 5: Kyler Murray to the Jets, whoa Arizona?

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Speaker 3: Send him to the Jets. Arizona starts all over once again.

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Speaker 3: That's just a theory mine.

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Speaker 1: Man up on Hawk Talk.

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Speaker 4: We'll start at the quarterback position like we always do,

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Speaker 5: Here's the thing about Jared goff Man that kind of

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Speaker 5: Is he a guy who can win you a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 5: Everyone needs the Kirk Cousins in the league, and I'm like,

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Speaker 5: You know he can ball, but Kenny win the big game.

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Speaker 3: You get it and get it done. But respect to

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Speaker 5: I love seeing dudes who were doubted come out and

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Speaker 5: let's talk about our quarterback Gino Smith against this Lion's

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Speaker 5: Last season, Gino's lowest passing game was one hundred and

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Speaker 5: So safe to say we're not gonna see many performances.

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Speaker 5: I don't anticipate see many performances from Gino. Like we

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Speaker 5: And there's nothing that he's shown me that's gonna that

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Speaker 3: But I think he can do it, no.

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Speaker 2: But the throw the Seahawks in love. Man.

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Speaker 4: They gave up ninety two yards on forty carries as

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Speaker 4: They weren't perfect, but I think they've taken that step.

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Speaker 5: they picked up so many first downs with runs. It

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Speaker 5: was like third and one, third and two. Now you're

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Speaker 5: an NFL team, you should be able to pick up

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Speaker 5: one or two yards on any given play.

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Speaker 3: So for all the haters digging deeper than numbers, good

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Speaker 3: job been you homework.

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Speaker 5: But let's let's talk some football and realize that any

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Speaker 5: NFL team should be able to pickup the yard too.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's talk about the Detroit Lions and their receivers.

447
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Speaker 5: Man A Monroe s Brown is one of my favorite

448
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Speaker 5: receivers in the league. And Josh Reynolds has been in

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Speaker 5: league seven years or quiet seven. It seems like he's

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Speaker 5: only been in a few years. But a Monral Saint

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Speaker 5: Brown is an underrated receiver, kind of like Tyler Locket, right,

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Speaker 5: they got that in common. But he was balled out

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Speaker 5: last year. One hundred and six receptions, eleven hundred yards,

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Speaker 5: six touchdowns. A kid out of the USC is getting done.

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Speaker 5: He wasn't helping for the game against the Seahawks last season,

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Speaker 5: so we'll see what he will do this year. But

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Speaker 5: this is a guy who's not extremely fast, but fast enough.

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Speaker 5: But he's a true route running and a receiver understand

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Speaker 5: spacing miss Crafty at the top of his routes. We're

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Speaker 5: gonna have our hands full with him. One of the

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Speaker 5: best in the league. Like I mentioned, underrated other guys.

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Speaker 5: Josh Reynolds, like I said, seven years in the league,

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Speaker 5: doesn't really feel like that.

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Speaker 3: He has stops in LA and Tennessee.

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Speaker 5: In fourteen games with Detroit last year, he had thirty

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Speaker 5: eight receptions for four seventy nine and three touchdowns. Last

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Speaker 5: week he had four receptions for eighty yards in one touchdown.

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Speaker 5: Now giving up three hundred and thirty four yards last week,

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Speaker 5: this secondary is going to be on high alert.

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Speaker 3: This is a good duo.

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Speaker 5: It's better than Tootuatwill and Puka Nakua who just carved

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Speaker 5: us up. So we got to watch the secondary and

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Speaker 5: it sounds like we might get to see the number

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Speaker 5: five pig, Devin Witherspoon. I'm not counting on this dude

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Speaker 5: just to fix the secondary, but I just want to

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Speaker 5: see what he can do because we haven't seen much

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Speaker 5: of him so far.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was great to see him back out of

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Speaker 4: practice on Wednesday, so I'm looking forward to it if

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Speaker 4: he's out there, And I think you're right, we should

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Speaker 4: temper our expectations a little bit. We shouldn't be expecting

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Speaker 4: him to have six interceptions and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: the Seahawks are only on one hundred yards. But we

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Speaker 4: know how talented he can be. So I'm definitely intriguing

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Speaker 4: and I think he's going to help this secondary. Definitely

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Speaker 4: footprint back to the line secondary and another match around

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Speaker 4: to look at is dk Metcalf and Tyler Lockett. I

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Speaker 4: don't gotta say much. I'd be here all day if

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Speaker 4: I read off their credentials and what they've done in

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Speaker 4: this league. So I know, no, he's got time for that.

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Speaker 4: But last week they only combined for five receptions fifty

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Speaker 4: seven yards in one touchdown on nine targets. Those guys,

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, you run fourteen plays in the second half,

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Speaker 4: it's hard to get your receivers involved. I expect them

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Speaker 4: to play a much bigger role than we need them to.

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Speaker 4: Quite frankly, I think they're they're too good. I think

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Speaker 4: Shane Waldern's gonna get back in his bag and find

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Speaker 4: ways to get these guys the ball, because when they go,

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Speaker 4: our offense goes.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of hard.

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Speaker 4: Definitely last year when we struggled, it's when they had,

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Speaker 4: you know, box scores that looked like that. So I'm

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Speaker 4: looking for those guys that big game they got too.

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Speaker 4: I mean he had DK with a couple of big receptions.

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Speaker 4: Even Tyler Lockett had a big reception on third down

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Speaker 4: to start the game. On that first drive, I DK

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Speaker 4: with a touchdown and another reception, But there was just

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Speaker 4: no consistency and it seemed like to get this pass

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Speaker 4: game going, you know, you got to get these two involved.

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Speaker 4: So I'm with you, Gino, DK Lockett, let's get it going.

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Speaker 4: And uh, let's talk about and Aiden Hutchins. Sorry almost

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Speaker 4: called him Anthony Hutchinson for some reason.

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Speaker 2: Aid.

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Speaker 3: Versus the Seahawks offensive line.

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Speaker 5: This young man was a second overall pick in the

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty two draft out of Michigan. He plays with

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Speaker 5: a motor in an intensity that ideally you want from

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Speaker 5: a guy that's rushing off the edge right zero plays off,

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Speaker 5: He's going, he's going, he's going, he doesn't stop. I

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Speaker 5: appreciate it about him last year as a rookie at

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Speaker 5: fifty two tackles, nine tackles for the lost, fifteen quarterback hits,

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Speaker 5: nine and a half sacks in three interceptions. In the

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Speaker 5: first game against the Chiefs, he was super active. Four

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Speaker 5: tackles in three quarterback hits. So we're looking at this

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Speaker 5: offensive line and what has happened so far. Right, we

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Speaker 5: got Abe Lucas, who's gonna be out. Got Charles Cross

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Speaker 5: who what bang his toe or something like that, turf toe,

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Speaker 5: turf toe. So there's gonna be some movement on this line,

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Speaker 5: and I wonder how it's going to affect the player

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Speaker 5: Aden Hutchinson, Like he's he gonna shine because of this,

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Speaker 5: or will the Hawks come together and try to contain him,

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Speaker 5: Because a player like him, it's hard to say you're

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Speaker 5: just gonna lock him down and shut him out.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna make plays.

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Speaker 5: But it's the time of the plays, in the consistency

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Speaker 5: of the plays. So with this new group, man, I'm

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Speaker 5: excited for the challenge, and I hope they are too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the second round picks or second overall

539
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Speaker 4: picks don't grow on trees. And you talk about that

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Speaker 4: motor and that that's something that scares you as an

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Speaker 4: offensive lineman. You can't take a playoff with this guy

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Speaker 4: because he can make that play. But you know, given

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Speaker 4: the way that the Seahawks are hurting up up front,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna run that rock. I think I think we're

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Speaker 4: gonna help them usualize eight hunches and hopefully by Ken

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Speaker 4: Walker running that rock, which brings me to ways, the

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Speaker 4: Seahawks gonna get this done.

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Speaker 2: Path to victory.

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Speaker 5: At the forty five, waits for the snap, Michael Vickton

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Speaker 5: puts it down.

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Speaker 3: That kick is away and that kick is gone.

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Speaker 2: Good say off.

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Speaker 4: When it's gone.

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Speaker 1: It's a path to victory on Hawk Talk.

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Speaker 4: Shake it off, man, Yeah, shake off. Last week. It's

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Speaker 4: a new week. The you know the pages turn on

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Speaker 4: Wednesdays in this building. After tell the truth Monday, it

558
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Speaker 4: is over. Whatever happened against the Rams is done. And

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Speaker 4: like I said, it shouldn't be problem for Pete King,

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Speaker 4: Pete Carroll coach team. The Seahawks have the second best

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Speaker 4: winning percentage in the NFL since twenty twelve, falling and

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Speaker 4: in season loss of the record of forty two and nineteen,

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Speaker 4: so they usually bounce back. Well, that's definitely ingrained into

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Speaker 4: players in this program, So I don't think it's gonna

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Speaker 4: be an issue. I think they're gonna come out with

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Speaker 4: more intensity and then they're gonna come out with a

567
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Speaker 4: sense of urgency, and I look for them to just

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Speaker 4: look a lot better in all facets of the game.

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Speaker 3: Here's my question.

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Speaker 5: When I go to vMac on Thursdays and the teams

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Speaker 5: and they're meeting, they're getting hyped there playing music. You say,

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Speaker 5: shake it off? Are they gonna play Taylor Swift shake

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Speaker 5: it Off? Are they gonna play Maria Carries shake it Off?

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Speaker 5: That's my question. What song are they gonna play to

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Speaker 5: get these guys going in the morning because they be

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Speaker 5: hyped up?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah?

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Speaker 5: And Pete Carroll, I'm just I'm interested in the message,

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Speaker 5: and I think you know that has to be here, right,

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Speaker 5: get over that that thing's over and is getting back

581
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Speaker 5: to being the Seahawks that we saw last year in

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Speaker 5: certain places right better against the run. You got Gino

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Speaker 5: Ni Gino to be Gino, and I think you're right.

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Speaker 5: You got to be able to run that rock. We

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Speaker 5: saw a little bit of what they can do run

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Speaker 5: the football with Knin in the backfield.

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Speaker 3: That sharpening in the backfield.

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Speaker 5: DJ Dallas is getting some That's the thing I was

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Speaker 5: frustrating last week because you saw the potential what they're

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Speaker 5: trying to do and then get DK Tyler and Jayson involved.

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Speaker 5: I think they're still they still have the potential to

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Speaker 5: be one of the best trios in the league.

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Speaker 4: We got to see them do that, oh A, no

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Speaker 4: question about it. And another thing is third downs. Gotta

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Speaker 4: be better on third downs. Eleven for seventeen defensively is

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Speaker 4: not good enough and then true for an offensively is

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Speaker 4: not good enough. And you know saying on defense, protecting

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Speaker 4: the middle of the field, finding a way to you know,

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Speaker 4: make those adjustments and then when someone starts to hurt

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Speaker 4: us somewhere to figure out a way from the guys

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Speaker 4: on the field that you know, stop that from happening.

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Speaker 4: And I think they can. I think we're gonna see

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Speaker 4: much better. You know, I want efforts up the right word,

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Speaker 4: but a much better performance from the defensive line. Because

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Speaker 4: you know, it's a first week, they're all out there,

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Speaker 4: they're all new guys playing different, you know, different positions

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Speaker 4: or different spots, and they're all out there at once

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Speaker 4: making line calls and different stuff like that. So I

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Speaker 4: think we'll give them some time to adjust and be

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Speaker 4: with each other. With Bobby Back and Jordan Brooks and

611
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Speaker 4: Devin Bush and all different matchups and people coming in

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Speaker 4: personnel groupings, I think they'll simplify it. I think they'll

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Speaker 4: get after Jared Goff and their Seahawks are definitely gonna

614
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Speaker 4: need to do that because teams that are owing too

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Speaker 4: is not a great start in the league and we

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Speaker 4: don't want that. And I think these guys can get

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Speaker 4: that done. Man, well, Bump, We're hopeful. I hope next

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Speaker 4: time me and you were chatting, it's a Seahawks victory

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Speaker 4: on a victory on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Because we need it. We need it, we need it.

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Speaker 4: We'll talk to you on Monday, hopefully talking about a

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Speaker 4: Seahawks victory. He's Michael Bumma, some NASA Chobe. This has

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Speaker 4: been hot talk.

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Speaker 1: We