1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Global business news twenty four hours a day. If Bloomberg 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: dot com, the radio plus mobile app and on your radio. 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: This is a Bloomberg business flash from Bloomberg World Headquarters. 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm Charlie Pellett. The DAL, the SMP, and NASTAC all 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: lower today's stocks, erasing their monthly gain amid thin trading volume. 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: Apple slumping ahead of Friday's jobs report. Apple shares Laura 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: now by one percent. We do have the SMP five 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: hundred index down seven to one seventy two, a drop 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: of four tenths of one percent. 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I'm Charlie pelt That's a bloom Bird business flash. 19 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: You're listening to taking stock with Katlee Hayes and Pimp 20 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: and so now we want to go from Shark Tank 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: to Shark Reach. Let me fill in the dots in between. 22 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: We have two very interesting guests on the show today. 23 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Harrington has been a successful entrepreneur for over forty years. 24 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: He's actually the inventor of the infomercial has seen on 25 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: TV Pioneers launched over five hundred products, generating uh five 26 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: billion dollars in sales worldwide. Uh. He was one of 27 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: the original sharks on Shark Tank, so you've seen him 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: many times on TV. And if you're fanatical about Shark Tank, 29 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: like my family, as you watch the reruns too. Also 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: want to bring in a person that he is partnering 31 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: with now who is the CEO of this company that 32 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: Kevin Harrington has joined. Steve Smith has also a long, 33 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: long career as a successful entrepreneur and their new company 34 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: that they're going to tell us about now is called 35 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: Shark Reach. It's to reach millennial. So, gentlemen, long introduction, 36 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: but I want to get right to what this is 37 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: all about. So let me welcome you and thank you 38 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: for Johnny Mean Studio. Great to be or Kathleen, thank 39 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: you so, so Kevin Harrington, tell me what drew you 40 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: to this company where you are now the chairman. You've 41 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: got you know how to sell, you know how to market, 42 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: so why join Shark Reach? So is it the essene 43 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: and TV industry has had a little bit of a 44 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: disruption because there's fewer people watching television nowadays, and so 45 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: our business has moved into a digital means now. So 46 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: we we do over half of our sales digitally and 47 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: we still have lots of TV stuff happening, but but 48 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: we use television to help build the brand, but we 49 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: really use digital to test. We use influencers. And so 50 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: as our industry is moved into all of the social 51 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: networking and and the facebooks and the pinterest and the 52 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: Instagrams and now Instagram is doing stories video. We take 53 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: the ideas, we put them onto the social networks. This 54 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: is the way of the future and using influencers to 55 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: take products to the next level is a natural progression 56 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: for us. Okay, So Steve Smith, you have just gotten 57 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: this trick. Trick Sherman who brings a lot to the table. 58 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: You have so many years in marketing and uh in 59 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: media you were at to discover communications w w E 60 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: World Wrestling entertainment that teaches you a whole lot of 61 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: different things. Tell us about Shark Reach, How did you 62 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: get started? What was the genesis of this? So obviously 63 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: we have the shark in common, right, so yeah, shark 64 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: creating Shark Tank. So it was it was sort of 65 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: a natural genesis of things. The um the world you know, 66 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: has changed. It's it's a really already changed in the 67 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: way that audiences exist now in the millennial era, is 68 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: is attached to what we call influencers, and influencers are 69 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: really just people who have large followings across a broad 70 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: selection of social networks. Sure, Kim Gardashian would be an 71 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: obvious one, but you know, there's only so many Kim 72 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: Kardashians in the world. And there's already a lot of 73 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: doubts about Twitter and the model and how long it's 74 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: gonna last. Right, many people's look and valure critical that 75 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: the original uh founders didn't do an SSA could are 76 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: are you staking a lot on something that is going 77 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: to involve so quickly? Well I'll speak to that a 78 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: little bit. So So Twitter, Yeah, Twitter is a challenge 79 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: right at the hundred the short number of awards kind 80 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: of all that aspect of it. And there are other 81 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: uh like an Instagram or Snapchat that are certainly moving 82 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: vastly quicker in terms of growth. So we're really platform 83 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: agnostic in terms of our influence are offering. So we're 84 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: we're really we have about one influencers, which basically anybody 85 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: domestically who has more than fifty thou followers across any 86 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: of the social works is within our system. So we 87 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: were able to activate that talent, uh kept really for 88 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: any brand and and that's the reach of that is 89 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: pretty phenomenal. Kevin, You've had such success already, is do 90 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: you feel that too for your own future success, for 91 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: the success of marketing? This is this is the train 92 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: you have to jump on now, Yes, I really do, 93 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: because I mean we're even used sing mommy bloggers and 94 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: people in their homes that have uh, you know, ten thousand, 95 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: twenty thousand followers, so you know, and that's the the 96 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: advantage of a Shark reach. They have twenty one thousand 97 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: access to twenty one influencers. We we can put a 98 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: ton of them together in a campaign and actually have 99 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: tremendous movement. In fact, you know, Steve can talk to 100 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: some of the things that the company has done, but 101 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: you know, engaging people to go watch movies and things 102 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: like that have been you know, very powerful. Okay, so 103 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 1: you just Steve, you just mentioned that fifty thousand followers 104 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: is sort of the minimal threshold across to be considered 105 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: an influencers. So besides that, Kevin, how do you pick 106 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: your influencers? Uh? Do you? And how do you pay them? How? What? 107 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: How does this relationship work? Several ways? Um? One is 108 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: you know, on a on a on a per action basis. Um. 109 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: You know, to put the message out to their crowd. 110 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: It comes on if they're doing a video, how long 111 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: the video might be, what they're doing. Sometimes that some 112 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: of them will get a percentage of what might occur, 113 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: a percentage of sales or something like that, but generally 114 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: it's it's paid on an upfront basis. Okay. Uh, proprietary technology, 115 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: I here that there's something. It's not just the fact 116 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: that you guys are harnessing. Hey, let's get these influencers 117 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: and let's use this as the the new wave of marketing. 118 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: Maybe not so new, but how does the technology come in? Steve? So, 119 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: technology is definitely a big part of our business that 120 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: the way that we work with um we call them 121 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: the talent ice with the influencers. They're all within a 122 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: back end system that we use has a number of 123 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,559 Speaker 1: tools within it which do something called Shark rank Shark 124 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: polls just three or four of them, but they basically 125 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: allow us to work with For example, we work with 126 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: Universal Pictures for the movie Straight Out of Compton, which 127 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: was sort of famous for that at this point because 128 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: it really took over the social networks for three weekends 129 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: and rather than we became number one and something percent 130 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: was a result of the social media. UM that was 131 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: kind of the pulling. So within that context, we we 132 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: take a movie like that who wants to reach a 133 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: specific demographic, uh, and then we really source that within 134 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: our system. It kind of tells us who the best 135 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: fits are in that case, you know, hip hop sort 136 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: of talent. And then we then it's kind of a 137 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: white glove process of talking with the talent, matching them 138 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: up correctly with the brand and kind of that process. Okay, 139 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: and you've got some things also, you just partner with 140 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: mastermind correct and Mastermind to explain to our listeners that 141 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: why this is interesting and important. Take that one yeah, 142 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: it's a little bit more than a partnership. We we 143 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: recently just acquired Mastermind. That was a couple of a 144 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. We probably dropped that information out 145 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: there in the in the world, but um so Mastermind 146 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: Marketing is a digital creative agency and um what we're 147 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: doing is we're really doing it quite a bit of 148 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: growth through M and A. UM Influencer Marketing is kind 149 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: of like our core sort of social media marketing tool set. 150 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: But over the last few weeks we started announcing sort 151 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: of like the stealth portion of the of the growth. 152 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: And Mastermind Marketings acquisition was one some huge clients that 153 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: they've had for its ask me to understand, I mean, 154 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: this is their pharmaceutical pole pre big deal. So Kevin 155 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: tell us about Shark Reach Labs the project. So so 156 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: we're taking we're able to take products. We have a product, 157 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: for example, it's called I Grow Laser. It's a it's 158 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: a hair growing product laser and um led lights and 159 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: it and it grows hair right. And this has been 160 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: now it's been selling on QVC for five and forty 161 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: five dollars, is blowing very big numbers. But now we're 162 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: able to go out and find influencers who can talk 163 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: to their their friends and family and networks about their 164 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: hair growing experiences. So we can target people that want 165 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: to grow hair by getting influencers that can help that 166 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: help get the word out about a product like this. 167 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: Just surprise. I don't think anybody needs encouragement for wanting 168 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: to grow hair and get at a certain point man 169 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: or you know it's a it's a big deal. I 170 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: guess The point is an influencer is presumably someone who 171 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: isn't just got lots of followers, but has followers because 172 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: they have some kind of credibility because I trust that influencer, 173 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: not just say hey, I'm cute by this, but trust 174 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: me correct and and so yes, they they and and 175 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: they've been engaging with their their followers and their clients 176 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: for for X number of months or years so they 177 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: know what to expect and um and if they like 178 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: a product, of course, you know it is there. Many 179 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: of these people do like to try and make sure 180 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: that they believe in it also and and validate the 181 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: product themselves. Okay, so how one of our listeners, small 182 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: business or an investor, how do they what is the 183 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: intersection they might have with Shark Reach Steve. So, we 184 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: generally work with the mid tier to large larger brands, 185 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: but really it's across a product segment we can work with. Really, 186 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: it's because like I said, followers, right, So there's a 187 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: really it can go very broad and go very niche 188 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: depending on what that brand or what that company you 189 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: know is looking to do. There even can be like um, 190 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: these kind of meetups that we do within owensers at 191 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: regional level, which is kind of fun. I mean they're 192 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 1: real people with real followings and it's kind of just 193 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: a way to connect them to what the brands want 194 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: to do in a really true organic way. Okay, Kevin, 195 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: you are an influence there here. Now you're going to 196 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: jump in with this digital millennial approach. Tell what what's 197 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: the number one thing an influencer should know or what 198 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: are you looking for? Well, what I look for is 199 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: I look for a credible company with a great background 200 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: or if it's a product, a great product that has 201 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: a proof of concept and and the ability to reach 202 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: the masses. So uh So, I think that's that's one 203 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: of the advantages with with some of these influencers because 204 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: they have you mentioned a Kardashian. They have such a 205 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: mass following you you've got to have a mass product 206 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: for somebody like that, because you can't. You can't go 207 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: to a Kardashian on a hair growth product because it's 208 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: it's too niche of a product. So because they'll help 209 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: plenty of hair exactly. Well, thanks You guys have to 210 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: come back when this is when you get your next 211 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: big acquisition or your next big influencer. Thank you so 212 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: very much to Kevin Harrington, he's the chairman and board 213 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: member of Shark Reach. And Steve Smith, he's the CEO 214 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: of Shark Reach. I'm Kathleen Hayes. 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