WEBVTT - Been There, Dean That: Ain’t No Mountain High Enough

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody, and welcome to episode four of The Dean Lounge.

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<v Speaker 1>I call the Dean Lounge only to not confuse people,

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<v Speaker 1>because we are changing the name of this segment starting

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I put on my Instagram what we could

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<v Speaker 1>name this because I am not creative enough to come

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<v Speaker 1>up with anything. And there were some very good submissions.

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<v Speaker 1>The one that I enjoyed the most was been There

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<v Speaker 1>Dean That, So that's what we're gonna call this. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start this all over. Hello everybody, and welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to episode four of Been There Dean That. Today's episode

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<v Speaker 1>is a very special episode because it's today's episode. I

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<v Speaker 1>it did lie to you guys a little bit last week.

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<v Speaker 1>I did say I wanted to go through these episodes

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<v Speaker 1>chronologically or I'm sorry my trips chronologically, and I am

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<v Speaker 1>getting off of that path right now. But I saw

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity and I had no choice but to seize

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<v Speaker 1>it because I have a friend staying at the house

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<v Speaker 1>with us. Not only is she staying here now, but

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<v Speaker 1>she stayed here for the whole week and got to

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<v Speaker 1>ski and hang out with our dog. Gosh, what a

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<v Speaker 1>great week that must have been having this house all

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<v Speaker 1>to yourself. But if you follow me on Instagram, which

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you do, you will know that I climbed

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<v Speaker 1>all of the fourteen ers in Colorado last summer, with

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<v Speaker 1>the exception of three because I'd already climbed them. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a big accomplishment for me. It was an incredible summer,

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<v Speaker 1>best summer of my life, and I'm excited to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you about it. I might talk about it again

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<v Speaker 1>later at some point. But my friend here, can we

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<v Speaker 1>call you by your real name? Sure? Do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to introduce yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>Hi?

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<v Speaker 3>Am Hannah, Hi Hannah, Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>My friend here. We probably did what like twelve of

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<v Speaker 1>the mountains together, sixteen, you know, off the top of

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<v Speaker 1>your head, sixteen, which is fifteen more than any other

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<v Speaker 1>person that I climbed the mountains with. Probably well Austin

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<v Speaker 1>I did three with, but it's significantly more than anyone

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<v Speaker 1>else I climbed any other mountains with. So since you're here,

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<v Speaker 1>I figured, why not just talk to you and see

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds good?

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<v Speaker 1>It's so tricky because this is it's with this It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you What do I talk about? Because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's easy to tell a story in

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<v Speaker 1>a conversational aspect. But it's hard to be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is in this and that and that and this happened,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Especially when you're holding a microphone.

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<v Speaker 3>It's intimidated.

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<v Speaker 1>You've done interviews before, though, I sure have. So Hannah

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<v Speaker 1>here for the uninitiated. She's a great marathon runner. She's

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<v Speaker 1>been She's completed the what is it called the World

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<v Speaker 1>World Majors, World Majors, And that's six marathons.

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<v Speaker 3>In six well in different countries and.

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<v Speaker 1>Different because there's the New York, the New.

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<v Speaker 2>York, Boston, Tokyo, London, Chicago, and I'm blanking on the last.

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<v Speaker 1>One Australia, Oh, Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 3>What is the last one?

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter. You did all six anyways, And that's

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<v Speaker 1>great because I would never I would never run more

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<v Speaker 1>than a mile. Even running a mile, I would just

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<v Speaker 1>run out to the ice cream truck, run by that,

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<v Speaker 1>driving by the house. That's about as far as I get.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me to even be standing on equal ground

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<v Speaker 1>with you in some other aspect of a physical accomplishment

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<v Speaker 1>is it's you know, I'm proud of myself for that,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess is all I have to say, but a

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<v Speaker 1>true testament to your ability as an athlete. So I

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<v Speaker 1>met Hannah. She reached out to me on Instagram because

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<v Speaker 1>I posted that I wanted to climb all fifty eight

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<v Speaker 1>and I had done zero research. I had no idea

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<v Speaker 1>what I was doing. I listed the mountains I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to climb by dates, and Hannah reached out and she

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you're an absolute idiot, And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean. She goes that you did, but

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<v Speaker 1>at first you were a little at that yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that I know your personality, it was nice, but

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, I was a little like, whoa this girl?

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<v Speaker 1>To set me straight? Because there's a lot that you

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<v Speaker 1>can do in the same day. There's a lot that

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<v Speaker 1>you want to like link in the same loop or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, and I didn't know any of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Hannah reached out and she, like very graciously,

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<v Speaker 1>was just offering up information, which is all I really

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<v Speaker 1>wanted at that point too. And little did I know

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<v Speaker 1>that she you were probably at what like thirty or

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<v Speaker 1>something at the beginning of last day was at four.

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<v Speaker 1>I was at thirty two, thirty two, And so not

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<v Speaker 1>only were you able to draw that experience and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of help me plan my stuff. But you had obviously

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<v Speaker 1>I had fifty five more to go, and so of

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<v Speaker 1>those fifty five, you had twenty five to do. When

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't do all of those, but you did for

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<v Speaker 1>your much to your credit. Like let's say you'd already

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<v Speaker 1>climbed one of them or hiked one of them. I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't done it. You're like, yeah, I got nothing going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just come out and do that here for the day,

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<v Speaker 1>which is great.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And yeah, I wanted to do some repeats. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I had a good time and it's good to stand shape.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think the very first one we did was

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<v Speaker 1>like it was like the fourth or fifth one I did.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Toys and Grays off of I seventy there

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like early or late spring, so early yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>late spring, so there was still a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>snow on the ground and we were like, screw it,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just ski. It was great ski yep. Man, where

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<v Speaker 1>are we going to go with this? I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be interesting because a lot of people, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to say they like count girls out when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to like the outdoor space. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>think that there is like a perceived like harder barrier

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<v Speaker 1>to entry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would agree. I feel like this is a

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<v Speaker 2>very it's a male dominated space.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, And so how did you get into it?

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<v Speaker 2>So? I got into it with a friend friend from college,

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<v Speaker 2>lived in Colorado, and was like, actually, we're sitting at

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<v Speaker 2>a bar having some drinks and he's like, hey, do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to hike a fourteen to tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like sure, went home googled what is

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<v Speaker 3>a fourteen er?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I had no idea, and I saw it's

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<v Speaker 2>a five mile hike, so much elevation gain.

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<v Speaker 3>I was Familinois. I have no idea what I'm doing,

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<v Speaker 3>but I showed up.

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<v Speaker 2>We started at two pm on a snowy November day,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>What I was getting myself into.

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<v Speaker 1>And which one was that?

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<v Speaker 2>That was quandary. Actually, after that one, I promised myself

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<v Speaker 2>I'd never do that ever again. I never wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>do anymore. Yeah, that was one and done for me,

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<v Speaker 2>and that obviously changed, obviously changed. Yeah, my first one

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<v Speaker 2>actually so quandary. I showed up in cotton leggings, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a big no no, and cyrel snow boots with

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<v Speaker 2>the fur.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that story. Yeah, yeah, I was looking good. Fortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>the quandary is considered one of the easier ones. It is, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but still not easy if you're unsure of what you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting self into and you're wearing Currel's in November. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and in November, and didn't you say it snowed there

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<v Speaker 1>or something?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>It was it was super snowy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>We were postholing down tour thighs.

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<v Speaker 1>It was yeah, okay, so you climb that with your

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<v Speaker 1>friend and then did you take time off or did

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<v Speaker 1>you just have the right away?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I didn't want to do anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever, Again, I had a friend reach out a couple

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<v Speaker 2>months later and wanted to do the calibron, so the

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<v Speaker 2>four that it's together, and so just to appease her,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, sure, I'll do those two with you.

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<v Speaker 2>And then at that point I'd done five, so I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, what's another However many more fifty of the math?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, yeah, what's another fifty three? You're already six

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the way down with the challenge. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>the calibran is one of those things that I was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about earlier, where it's four peaks within it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>what like a nine mile hike that day or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and it just it would be stupid to

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<v Speaker 1>go up there and just do one of them and

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<v Speaker 1>then go down. You might as well just do all

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<v Speaker 1>four in the same day and then boom, you're done

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<v Speaker 1>with the four. So yeah, so I remember, well I

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<v Speaker 1>did the Calibron and that was right after we did

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<v Speaker 1>Toys and Grace together, and then you reach back out

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, yeah, we're gonna go do Carson and Challenging. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>which that was the first real taste that I had

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<v Speaker 1>of like big overnight backpacking for the summer at least,

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<v Speaker 1>because we hiked up I think it was like a

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<v Speaker 1>five four or five mile hike to base camp at

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<v Speaker 1>the Beautiful Lakes, and then we woke up early in

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<v Speaker 1>air quotations because it's never really early when when I'm going,

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<v Speaker 1>And then we climbed those two and I remember because

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<v Speaker 1>it was still at the point in the season where

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<v Speaker 1>there was so much snow And do you remember like

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<v Speaker 1>having to go through the snow on the way up

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<v Speaker 1>the Challenger.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well you and I took a different route on

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<v Speaker 2>my friend Tyler kind of went up the snowy route

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<v Speaker 2>and we just kept looking at him like what an idiot?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then didn't end up beating us the time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's just a testaments how strong he is, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the traverse on the way up to kick Carson,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, you guys were more micro spikes, definitely

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<v Speaker 1>like what you needed to do. There was like ice

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<v Speaker 1>down this big cliff side with like a tiny narrow ledge.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very sketchy. I remember it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you didn't wear micro spikes.

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<v Speaker 1>I was too stubborn too, and I think I only

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<v Speaker 1>had yak tracks too, so I was like these probably

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't even help me out if I needed them. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then yeah, the way down that I remember, we

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<v Speaker 1>were like this hitting all the way down. That was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty awesome at that point too. In my experience or

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<v Speaker 1>my journey, for lack of a better word, I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to do this fifty more times. It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>when you first start out, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, Yeah, especially when you use the tougher ones. You're

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<v Speaker 3>just like I have to do this again, Like this

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<v Speaker 3>was really hard and I'm exhausted.

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<v Speaker 1>But in hindsight, do you think Carson and Challenger were

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<v Speaker 1>the tougher one of the tougher ones, like top fifty percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would say top fifty percent for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, those ones were fun though, I do I

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<v Speaker 1>and it just like because it started off kind of

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<v Speaker 1>early with one of those ones. I do really enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>like the overnight trips a lot more. Yeah, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>you finished on Windom and Sunlight and yeah, Chicago Basin

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<v Speaker 1>just to summarize that, which is great, and we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to that, I guess later, because I want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>more about your finishing experience with it all. But so,

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<v Speaker 1>how long did it take you to do fifty eight?

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty quick?

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<v Speaker 2>Still, I started in twenty sixteen, yeah, and twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>so seven you're good at math Son years.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven years? And what this last summer was the most

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<v Speaker 1>active you were with it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So I did thirty five this summer, thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Five, right, I remember that one of the ones we

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<v Speaker 1>were hiking near the end. For me, you were like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I've already done twenty three, I might as well just

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<v Speaker 1>do thirty And I'm like, who are you doing this for?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what is the what is itself? Actually?

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<v Speaker 3>Which is funny, this podcast it myself looks really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's mission accomplished. So you climbed all fifty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>but how many do you think you've climbed? Like repeats included?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably, Oh yeah, I would say probably like sixty or seventy.

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<v Speaker 1>No more than that, I'd say like eighty okay, maybe eighty,

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<v Speaker 1>let's call it eighty okay. And then the third you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't done many thirteen years or now I have done

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<v Speaker 1>like two okay? Is that it ever going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a list for you to knock you out?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>But a fourteen er is a mountain peak that stands

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<v Speaker 1>over fourteen thousand feet. And correct me if I'm wrong

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<v Speaker 1>on any of this stuff. There is According to Google,

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<v Speaker 1>there's ninety eight in the U in the Northern America,

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty eight of those sit in Colorado, surprisingly enough,

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<v Speaker 1>in the Colorado Rocky. So there's like fourteen in California,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five in Alaska, one in Washington. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>it right for the most part. Sure, Maybe no, not Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I have no idea, no ideas, And so it's

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<v Speaker 1>really cool, especially like living in Colorado. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>have all of these huge mountains in your backyard, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people do make it their goal to

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<v Speaker 1>climb them. A lot of people make it a goal

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<v Speaker 1>just to climb one, just to climb three, five, ten.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't really matter what it is. But the thing

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<v Speaker 1>is they're not easy. And coming from Illinois, how did

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<v Speaker 1>you adjust to the I guess the elevation, Like, did

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<v Speaker 1>you struggle with the altitude sickness at all?

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<v Speaker 5>On?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, not on a fourteen, but just in general,

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<v Speaker 2>just like in the mountains, I've definitely had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of elevation sickness.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember you ever having it when we did it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, the only time I've really kind of felt it

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<v Speaker 2>was when my friend and I did handies and we

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<v Speaker 2>slept on the top and the first few hours trying

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<v Speaker 2>to breathe and sleep. Yeah, like I was waking up

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<v Speaker 2>like every like two seconds because I would like try

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<v Speaker 2>and fall asleep and then wake right back up because

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't breathe. So that was like the only time.

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<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't elevation sickness. It was just like couldn't breathe.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, was it cold? It was your sleeping bag over

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<v Speaker 1>your face or something?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I was cooking.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>When I met you and then you introduced me to Tyler,

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<v Speaker 1>and you introduced me to Carly. Like your group, it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like it was pretty fifty to fifty split men

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<v Speaker 1>and women, maybe even more, maybe even more favorable towards women.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, So Carly and I had met on a

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<v Speaker 2>hike prior, and I was with my friend Tyler. So

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<v Speaker 2>the two of us were hiking and we met with

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<v Speaker 2>Carly and we all realized we had the same pretty

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<v Speaker 2>similar peaks to finish. So we all made a pack.

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<v Speaker 2>This this is twenty twenty two, made a pack to

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<v Speaker 2>finish them all together. So that was our goal for

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three. That they had like half of what I

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<v Speaker 2>had left, So a lot of those I was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to do by myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and how many? But you did zero by yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I've never done a fourteen and by myself, which

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<v Speaker 3>that is correct.

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<v Speaker 1>That is quite the feat in itself. I like, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wish I had more friends to hang out

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<v Speaker 1>with going with me. There were times and you'll you'll

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<v Speaker 1>you obviously know this, maybe not firsthand, but just through

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<v Speaker 1>my stories. Is like when I'm hiking by myself, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just like literally sit down on a rock for like

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<v Speaker 1>an hour doing crosswords and like take a nap and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm like, oh my gosh, it's getting late. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta finish this. And then I'm like finishing in the dark.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's nice is when you're hiking with friends is

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<v Speaker 1>like they keep you, they hold you accountable, Like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't just stop, man, Like we gotta go.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a couple of what you did stop on

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<v Speaker 2>a rock and I was like, are we ever gonna

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<v Speaker 2>move again?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my legs are getting tired. I would like to

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<v Speaker 3>keep moving, And You're like, well, hold on, I got

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<v Speaker 3>two more crosswords to do, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>When we did Yale, I do remember like walking and

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<v Speaker 1>doing crosswords and well, I don't know why I do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I do just get kind of I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>say bored, because like that sounds really shallow capit of

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<v Speaker 1>me to say. But when you do all of those,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like they start to look the same, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>you just kind of want to get them over with.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there are so many peaks that I did where

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like I just am doing this just

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<v Speaker 1>to get it done, like I'm not really enjoying myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeahha here, And that's why, like the more challenging ones

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<v Speaker 2>like obviously you're not going to sit and do a

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<v Speaker 2>crossword puzzle on capital. Yeah, so they're just a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more fun and there's things to you're really focusing on

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<v Speaker 2>what you're doing versus just like looking at nature, which

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<v Speaker 2>is obviously really cool and.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a really important thing to know it too for

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<v Speaker 1>anyone that's listening to this wondering more about it is

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<v Speaker 1>there's of the fifty eight, like thirty five of them

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<v Speaker 1>are basically hikes, and you could do it with any

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<v Speaker 1>type of fitness level as long as you're like capable

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<v Speaker 1>to handle the elevation. It's just it would just take

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<v Speaker 1>you longer. I kind of mentioned this last week on

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<v Speaker 1>last week's episode. You could you could do it at

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<v Speaker 1>any fitness level, just like just slow down and take

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<v Speaker 1>your time. But then there are certain ones where like

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<v Speaker 1>it gets a little more challenging, you have to use

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<v Speaker 1>your hands and climb sometimes, or there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>those traverses that we did where it's like you could

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<v Speaker 1>fall to the right two feet and your debt and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously no one wants that to happen, but majority of

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<v Speaker 1>them are pretty pretty straightforward. I still think to this day,

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite day in the mountains was when we did

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<v Speaker 1>the Little Bear Blanco Traverse.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, hands down, that was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>We so similar to what we were talking about with

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<v Speaker 1>Carson and Challenger. You hike up, well, Hannah drove us

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<v Speaker 1>up pretty dangful. So we only had a hike like

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<v Speaker 1>two miles up, but typically you would hike like six

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<v Speaker 1>miles I think something like that into this beautiful basin

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<v Speaker 1>and then you like set up camp there and then

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<v Speaker 1>you wake up the next morning. And I never wake

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<v Speaker 1>up early. I am the absolute early worst early riser.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the first one out of the tent that

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<v Speaker 1>morning you were.

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<v Speaker 3>I was so shocked. Carly and I were sharing a

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<v Speaker 3>tent and I was like, we can land, we can

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<v Speaker 3>sleep in a little bit longer, Deane. It's going to

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<v Speaker 3>take another like probably forty five minutes, and then you

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<v Speaker 3>woke up and you're like, I'm ready to go. I

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<v Speaker 3>looked at Carly, I was like, this is not normal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that was my first time, meaning Carl two,

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<v Speaker 1>she's everyone that we were doing those web I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like I was the least physically capable person there. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's true, think it's I think the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing I had to stay humble. No, I swear

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<v Speaker 1>to God. The only thing that I had it like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that I could have been better at you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>was I was just like I didn't I wouldn't say,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are scared of heights, but I just like

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff doesn't bother me. So like when it gets

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of sketchy like that, I'll just be like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh whatever, this is fine. But like the hiking and

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<v Speaker 1>the climbing and like all of the endurance stuff, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting my ass kicked all the time, so I

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<v Speaker 1>have to make.

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<v Speaker 3>It until we go down and then you and Carly

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<v Speaker 3>just left Tyler and I am the dust.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was just a matter of like I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to get to at this point. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>that hike was amazing. So you we hiked up at

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<v Speaker 1>sunrise before, so I guess we got to the first

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<v Speaker 1>speak around sunrise. And this is touted as maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>most dangerous of the of the whole escapades minus like

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<v Speaker 1>the Bells Traverse or Capital Yeah, or Longs if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to get technical, because most people die on lungs.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's just because most people go do lungs underprepared,

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<v Speaker 1>and it I posted videos on my Instagram and you

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<v Speaker 1>posted a lot of amazing pictures too. It's like you're

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<v Speaker 1>literally just walking a tight rope for a mile and

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<v Speaker 1>there are two thousand four dropped to your left, two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand foot dropped to your right. The stakes are so high,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what makes it so fun and what's great too,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I would have hated doing that alone, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>it what made it so enjoyable for me was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one of us are going into doing issue.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be scared to do something, and then Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>or you or Carly would step around and be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so easy. You just put your hand here and

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<v Speaker 1>you just pull up onto this, and then you're like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I can do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>There were so many instances where we were like switching

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<v Speaker 1>leaders too, you know, like Tyler led the first quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>I did the second quarter, You did the third quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>and they probably did the last quarter. Yeah. It was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty great. So if you're thinking about doing that, make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you're ready for it. But still, to this day,

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<v Speaker 1>the best day.

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<v Speaker 2>Of mon Yeah, Oh my gosh, so much fun and

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<v Speaker 2>you're just on the entire time you're just think like

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about the next step in front of you.

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<v Speaker 3>You're just yeah, it's really good time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And then we went up and did Humboldt right

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<v Speaker 1>after that too, which is actually really fun. I was

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<v Speaker 1>I was pleasantly surprised by how fun humble it was.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and then what did we do? So then

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of then I was at like forty or

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<v Speaker 1>something and you were at like fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I hit fifty or maybe fifty one

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<v Speaker 3>on that.

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<v Speaker 1>You were like going so hard from like late spring

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<v Speaker 1>to midsummer, and then I think that you like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of knew that you were going to finish on this day,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you're like, Okay, I'm gonna take like a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a break now, right.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we had our finisher date already set in stone,

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<v Speaker 2>like we had planned everything because Chicago Basin, which is

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<v Speaker 2>where we finished, we had to have a train ticket

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<v Speaker 2>to get into the Basin, so you have to book

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<v Speaker 2>that ahead of time. So we knew the date that

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<v Speaker 2>we were going to finish. We had a whole crew

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<v Speaker 2>of people that was coming with us, so yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of planned everything around that day. So there

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<v Speaker 2>was some timeframes where I wasn't really doing a whole

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<v Speaker 2>locks they didn't really have to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Right because you already knew. It was like a foregone

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<v Speaker 1>conclusion that unless you got up there and like weather

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<v Speaker 1>didn't let you do it, yeah, that's how you were

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<v Speaker 1>going to finish. And honestly, you saved my butt because

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<v Speaker 1>when we were doing Carson and Challenger, you were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about that Chicago Basin trip and you were like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we had to book our tickets. Thankfully we got the

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<v Speaker 1>last ones, and I was like, wait a second, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to reserve those tickets. And I like immediately got

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone with my brother when I got into

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<v Speaker 1>service and I was like, hey, we have to get

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<v Speaker 1>tickets for this train, and like you can't just show

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<v Speaker 1>up and he goes, no, you're wrong, You're wrong. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, no, we need to call these guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>he called them and he was like, we literally got

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<v Speaker 1>the last two or it's sozing, which is so fortunate.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's talk about Chicago Basin for a second, because

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<v Speaker 1>that Rivals It maybe wasn't as fun of a day

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<v Speaker 1>as a little Bear Blanco traverse, but the experience as

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<v Speaker 1>a whole was maybe one of the best backpacking experience. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you drive to Durango, you jump on the steam

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<v Speaker 1>train that takes you up into Needletin, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>hike six miles into this Again, it's so hard to

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<v Speaker 1>not sound redundant when you're talking about this stuff, but like,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you hike six miles up into this beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>little basin area, and then from there you're surrounded by

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<v Speaker 1>four peaks and they're not just like you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking earlier about the easy ones and the hard ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Those ones are all pretty technical more or less, but

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<v Speaker 1>not super challenging, but like technical enough to keep you interested.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. Yeah, And that was an amazing weekend because

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<v Speaker 1>we did it. I did it with my brother, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know you did it with your friends to finish.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's amazing up there, and you were with

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we had a crew of people. Yeah, it was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I made it super special because people flew

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<v Speaker 2>in from all over Tennessee California just to come support,

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<v Speaker 2>which is really really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they climb them with you?

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<v Speaker 3>So it was like fifty to fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>So the first day we did the two elios and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know how to say that word. But

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<v Speaker 2>Elios and North Fiolis. Yeah, so we did those the

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<v Speaker 2>first day, trying to wait for the snow to fall

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<v Speaker 2>off of the or melt on window, which was our finisher,

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<v Speaker 2>because it had snowed and it was probably going to

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<v Speaker 2>be pretty dangerous. So did the first two first, and

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<v Speaker 2>we had probably fifty percent of us do those, and

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<v Speaker 2>then six of us I think were on the finisher day.

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<v Speaker 1>And what did you to celebrate up there?

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<v Speaker 3>I pop some champagne, We had some balloons. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 3>was great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my finisher funny enough actually, because you're in this

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<v Speaker 1>story as well. It was an equally I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say equally challenging because they're challenging in different ways.

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<v Speaker 1>But we did the Bells traverse to finish, which you

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<v Speaker 1>had done maybe like a week or two prior, but

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<v Speaker 1>you had done the bells separately.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I had done them separately.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the day that we wanted to do the traverse,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just too stormy, So we ended up not

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<v Speaker 2>doing that, and so I I knew I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>go back and get the traverse to do all four traverses. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so went back and did it again.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so the Bells traverse is considered and I

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<v Speaker 1>would vouch for it as well being the most challenging

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<v Speaker 1>of the of anything that we did in the fourteen ers.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, I would say give or take between that

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<v Speaker 3>and Little Bear Blanca, But.

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<v Speaker 1>Little Bear Blanca was more like mentally challenging.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and yeah, I would say the Bells is more

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<v Speaker 2>challenging because you're upward climbing, so there are some parts

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<v Speaker 2>where you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, do I need a rope for this? Like, am

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<v Speaker 3>I okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and we were when we were climbing it. We

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<v Speaker 1>were like, I know I can climb up that, but

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<v Speaker 1>if I go the wrong way and I have to

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<v Speaker 1>turn around, I definitely cannot climb down that. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. And so that was my big

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<v Speaker 1>mental crux in the Bells was because your the roote

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<v Speaker 1>is not at all well defined and there's not really

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<v Speaker 1>much beta you can find online, so you're you're using

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<v Speaker 1>your best judgment and and most times you're probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to be right, but there are so many horror stories

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<v Speaker 1>you have people up there where they go the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>way and they get mountain rescued off or whatever. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was my big thing with their Bells traverse because

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<v Speaker 1>there was a super vertical pitch. I'm sure you probably

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<v Speaker 1>did the same one where it's like, you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>super long, like they're you're forty feet, but you are

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<v Speaker 1>vertical climbing. Yeah, and you're like kind of on like

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<v Speaker 1>this little rat thing and so you're super exposed, no

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<v Speaker 1>ropes or anything, and you're pretty tired of that point too. Fortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>I think everyone probably goes through this. At that section,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, you get to the top and you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>thank god, that was the right way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, if you do it the opposite direction, So

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<v Speaker 2>we went south. Both of us went south to north.

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<v Speaker 2>If you do north to south, you do need a

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<v Speaker 2>rope to repel that part. So that was the part

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<v Speaker 2>where I was like, hopefully this is right, because if

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<v Speaker 2>I need to get down from here, I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a rope.

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<v Speaker 1>So I didn't know that's that good. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>people will do it north to south of the interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't really see any blay rings or anything

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<v Speaker 1>up there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know what they do, like slinging around

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<v Speaker 3>a rock or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but yeah, So then I did North Maroon the

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<v Speaker 1>day before my wedding, and so Kaylen was an Aspen.

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<v Speaker 1>My brother was an Aspen. I did it with him.

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<v Speaker 1>And then my best friend was an Aspen. He lives here,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, so I did it with him as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to the bottom and Hannah and Carly and Kaylin

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<v Speaker 1>and my brother's wife were all sitting there waiting with

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<v Speaker 1>balloons and cake. It's great experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Part was when we were waiting for you guys, and

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<v Speaker 2>Kaylen is kind of duck down and we're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna give them this balloons and whatever. And I

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<v Speaker 2>look over to Kaylin, I'm like, I love surprises, and

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<v Speaker 2>she's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh shit, do you hate surprises?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I do you hate surprises? And also, weren't you, like,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't you plan for us to be done by like

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<v Speaker 1>two and we didn't get done till like five.

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<v Speaker 3>For yeah, yeah, I was like, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>where they're at. They should be downe already. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>trying to pan at Kaylan.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know why it took us so long.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when it started late, But I do remember

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<v Speaker 1>it being like extra scary because it had it was

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<v Speaker 1>the first snow of the new season, and like the

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<v Speaker 1>descent down South Moroon into the saddle area was like

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<v Speaker 1>super slippery and sketchy, and so we were like very

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<v Speaker 1>very slow through that area. And also I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>very fast Sometimes I'm fast, but I would say majority

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<v Speaker 1>of the time, I'm not fast.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, folks, Amy and TJ. Here Matt James, a Bachelor

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<v Speaker 6>Nation is our guest on the next episode of the

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<v Speaker 6>Amy and TJ podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody wants to know if and when he and Rachel

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<v Speaker 5>will finally get married. Well, he's going to fill us

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<v Speaker 5>in on the destination wedding.

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<v Speaker 6>Also, he'll talk about his heartbreak over a fellow Bachelor

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<v Speaker 6>Nation alum, also talk about his fantasy relationship with Chris

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<v Speaker 6>Harrison and would you believe this dude tried to blame

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<v Speaker 6>me and Roeboch for missing a very important weekend with Rachel.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Rachel, it wasn't us.

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<v Speaker 5>We want to make sure you know that this is

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<v Speaker 5>a rare and it's an extensive conversation with Matt James

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<v Speaker 1>When we hiked Laplata, do you remember that one? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we were so slow that day and we got like

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<v Speaker 1>such a crappy weather system rolled in on us.

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<v Speaker 3>That's because we started at two pm.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is also something I really enjoy doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I just remember I drove from Denver that day

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<v Speaker 2>and I left at six am, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be at the trailhead at nine am.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll start And You're like, do you want to be

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<v Speaker 3>for breakfast? I'm like, not really, I just drove three

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<v Speaker 3>hours to come hike this, but okay, let's go get

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<v Speaker 3>breakfast first. That's honestly why you're and we didn't start

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<v Speaker 3>till two That's.

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<v Speaker 1>Why you're a great HEGs partner though, because so many

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<v Speaker 1>people would be like, this is not happening, this is bullshit, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. But you're just like, yeah, whatever, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you know, it's good to have someone that's willing

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<v Speaker 1>to go with the flow, because if I'm always going

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<v Speaker 1>with the flow, and if you're going with the flow

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<v Speaker 1>and your partner is like very type A and not

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<v Speaker 1>go with the flow, it could be a bad oil

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<v Speaker 1>and water kind of situation.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That almost it gives in trouble because we started it

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<v Speaker 2>too and it hailed it kind of storm, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was like enough away, it didn't storm. On us, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was there and it was just super windy and

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<v Speaker 2>super windy, and I like ran down it. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm leaving you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I remember being way steeper than I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was going to be, so I like mentally wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>ready for it, and so I just was so slow

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<v Speaker 1>going up it. God, Laplata sucked. It was horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate it. And that was my second time doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>The first time around, I was like, I am never

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<v Speaker 2>doing thea Plata ever again. Yeah, And then you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to do la Plata with.

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<v Speaker 1>Another mountain as well? I know you did Yale a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well I didn't sum Yes I did.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't even get into that. But didn't you say

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<v Speaker 1>that you did it again or something after we did

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<v Speaker 1>it Yale? No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, But there was a couple that I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I will never do this one again.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I did it again with you. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>I was just trying to be a good friend.

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<v Speaker 1>And and you were kicking ass. You got thirty five peaks.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you get to ones where you're like, I'm never

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<v Speaker 2>going to do this again. It was a horrible experience.

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<v Speaker 2>I just am I just don't ever want to do

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<v Speaker 2>this and then you're like, maybe I can redeem it,

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe the next time I do this it'll be better. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>some of them I would say were, But some of

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<v Speaker 2>them I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, NOPEA definitely did not.

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<v Speaker 3>Read laplata, did not redeem it.

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<v Speaker 1>So there is how many ranges do you think there

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<v Speaker 1>are with fourteen years? Like five or five? I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's five five? Yeah, okay. One of those ranges in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>I would can and I would text back in there

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<v Speaker 1>like little group chat that I put myself into with

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler entirely, and every chance I got, I would lament

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<v Speaker 1>about how much I hated the what was it? Not

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<v Speaker 1>the was it the littlest hoals? No, the little hous

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<v Speaker 1>are in Utah?

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<v Speaker 3>It was the what is the collegiate peaks are?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? What is that one called?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm blinking collegiate peak range?

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<v Speaker 1>Wherever the collegiate peak are? That mountain range? And I

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<v Speaker 1>would mention it every chance I got, like on social

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<v Speaker 1>media to be like I will never come back here again,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got so many people being like, you just

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<v Speaker 1>don't get it. I love that place so much, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like that's fine, that's great. You can love this

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<v Speaker 1>as much as you want, but for me personally, an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute grind. And there was like, there's like fourteen mountains

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<v Speaker 1>in that range, and they're all like ten plus mile hikes.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're all very similar, and they're all very similar.

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<v Speaker 1>None of them are like exciting enough to be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just long ekes. They're long, horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not selling these at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so by the I think the last one

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<v Speaker 1>I did in that range was I was gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>enormous Peak, but that's obviously not what it's called. What

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<v Speaker 1>is the one next to Albert mass enormous.

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<v Speaker 3>Not a massive, it's just it's not enormous, it's just massive.

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<v Speaker 1>When I got done with that one, I like literally

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<v Speaker 1>screamed on this peak and I was like, yes, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>finally done with these mountains because I only had fun

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<v Speaker 1>ones left. I had like the Elks and holy Cross,

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<v Speaker 1>which I was dreading holy Cross but actually had a blast.

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<v Speaker 3>I love toly Cross.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sneaky fun, but yeah, I mean that's basically all

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<v Speaker 1>of you we got time for. Did it go by

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<v Speaker 1>faster than any thought? Yes? I want to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>some more questions about being a female hiker, because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like the listeners of this podcast, believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say I'm a majority female and a perspective

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<v Speaker 1>like yours is so unique and so lucky. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>lucky to have you on here, and so I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to pick your brain for as many

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<v Speaker 1>questions as I can, But I can't think of anything

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<v Speaker 1>right now. What advice do you have for women who

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<v Speaker 1>are considering getting into backpacking or hiking or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, find people to go with, Find like

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<v Speaker 2>cool females to go with, because I think for me,

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<v Speaker 2>like the biggest thing was if I'd HiPE with the guy,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd always be like, oh, well, he's just gonna lead,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's fine. But when you go by yourself or

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<v Speaker 2>you're with other females, you're like you're the ones that

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<v Speaker 2>are in charge, and it just gives you so much

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you just feel so good about yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>like I can do this. I'm out here with my

0:27:57.080 --> 0:27:59.119
<v Speaker 2>girlfriends and this is like so much fun and not

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<v Speaker 2>like discrediting go with guys, and like, you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was awesome to hike with you, but like it's really

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<v Speaker 2>cool and it's like just you and your girlfriend and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like this, we can do really cool shit together.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved hiking with you guys, because like if as

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<v Speaker 1>you were karly leading, I'd be like, great, I'm following

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<v Speaker 1>these women. I'm not at all mad about it. This

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<v Speaker 1>is awesome, Like just it's so funny because like the

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<v Speaker 1>mountain doesn't care if you're a guy or girl, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think a lot of ego gets put into

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<v Speaker 1>that too, Like with guys, like you're saying like they

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<v Speaker 1>just feel like they need to lead, but in reality

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, no, they don't. But there is just like

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<v Speaker 1>this weird stigma around around that for some reason, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a majority of people that do hiker guys

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<v Speaker 2>or that hike these fourteen ers or guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So it's really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I found a group on Instagram who they're all females

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<v Speaker 2>and they've all finished the fourteen years and I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was the coolest thing and I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 2>a part of this group so bad that I like

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<v Speaker 2>message them all and now we're friends, which is really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>So just finding like that community of people.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're a girl looking to get into hiking

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<v Speaker 1>or backpacking or rock climbing or anything you would suggest

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<v Speaker 1>that they would go on like Facebook can try to

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<v Speaker 1>join a.

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<v Speaker 2>Group, Yeah, Facebook fourteen ers groups, Instagram. I just started

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<v Speaker 2>messaging people. I would like use the hashtag fourteen ers

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<v Speaker 2>or females doing fourteen ers or whatever the hashtag was,

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<v Speaker 2>and just find girls that were doing it and I

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<v Speaker 2>would just instagram message them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what do you think about like the gatekeeping of

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<v Speaker 1>the mountains, How do you feel about not like this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't particular to men or women, how do you just

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<v Speaker 1>feel about that in general?

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<v Speaker 4>Mm?

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<v Speaker 1>I question it actually is for you because this is

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<v Speaker 1>why it's such an interesting question for you and for

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<v Speaker 1>probably majority of people too. It's like if it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>for if like you got into the sport at it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in your twenties, and so if people gate

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<v Speaker 1>kept all their information, it would be so much harder

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 1>for you to answer the sport. But now that you're

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<v Speaker 1>into it and you're like ingrained in it, there are

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<v Speaker 1>certain things that you want to hold sacred to yourself

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<v Speaker 1>and to the people that you know that you've been

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<v Speaker 1>through it with. But like, without without people opening up

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<v Speaker 1>your eyes to it, it never would have happened for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true to gatekeeping.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and yeah, I mean I don't know. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that's fair. So pro or anti I would say

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<v Speaker 1>pro pro gatekeeping.

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<v Speaker 3>No anti anti gaypee take it back to get back.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm also insisted the question anti gatekeeper.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate when people gatekeep. I get it to an extent,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. But I hate when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like it happens in photography all the time, where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like you see someone post this beautiful spot you it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a friend, and you reach out and you're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>where is this just want to know for future reference,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, ah, man, it's a secret spot of mine.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell anyone.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's like, come on, I just think there's a

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<v Speaker 3>level too.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the only part of me that would be pro

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<v Speaker 2>for like for it would be just like the safety aspect,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm not just going to tell anyone they can

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<v Speaker 2>go do some of this stuff because I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>your safety level or your level of skill. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>that would be Yeah, that's my only reason to.

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<v Speaker 1>Your credit with that. I did catch some flax sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>because I would always like underplay the severity of on

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<v Speaker 1>like social media. I did the cables up longs, which

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<v Speaker 1>is like a five to four, and it was not

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<v Speaker 1>a five four. It was like maybe five maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>was maybe even less than fifth class. And I wrote

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<v Speaker 1>about this on social media and I had a couple

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 1>of people reach out and they were like, this, this

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<v Speaker 1>is dangerous of you to be encouraging people to go

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<v Speaker 1>do it or like you're like basically saying it's more

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<v Speaker 1>safe than it is, and so someone could go up

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 1>there and hurt themselves. And I totally get that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you're going up there to do that and

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<v Speaker 1>you're not doing your own research separate of just my

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 1>little Instagram caption, like you're kind of saying, yeah, that's

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of unyas anyway. Yeah, yeah, any other advice for

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<v Speaker 1>girls out there? Do you wish you started younger?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so. I mean, I mean I was

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<v Speaker 3>pretty I'm when I started.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you are.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. It's like, are you calling me old?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I wish I started my late teens. My knees

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>would be a lot more grateful.

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's true. Yeah, I mean my body would hurt less,

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<v Speaker 3>recovery would be probably better.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But I feel like you never really had an

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<v Speaker 1>issue with recovery, maybe like some soreness.

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<v Speaker 3>I just hit it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I was popping two thousand milligrams of

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 1>ivy prof and every single day just to get through.

0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 1>And then I stopped after I was done finding everything,

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<v Speaker 1>I stopped taking it, and my body would just ache

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 1>every single day, And I'm like, what is that? This

0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>is horrible?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this what it feels like to be old?

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 1>Is this what it feels like? That's a a illegal

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<v Speaker 1>dose of I'd be broken in my body every single day.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your next goal?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I want to do half dome cables down. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to climb the Grand possibly free sol.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the Grand.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Spalding right, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Big term time goals. L Cap is up there and

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<v Speaker 2>the Diamond on Longs.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, your diamond is the coolest rock I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen in my entire life. Yes, it's crazy, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's also crazy too to think about. Like l Cap

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<v Speaker 1>has to It's like the same thing but just twenty

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<v Speaker 1>times longer. Right, Yeah, But what's special about the diamond

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 1>is you get up onto Capitol and you're just standing

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:41.960
<v Speaker 1>right on top of it or lungs. That's what I meant.

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry. Once you get up on top of Longs,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like literally standing on top of the diamond, right

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<v Speaker 1>and you look you don't really look down, I guess,

0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 1>because you'd probably fall off, but like you can get

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 1>off to the side and like see this sheer two

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 1>hundred three hundred foot clip just sheer. Granted, it's the

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 1>most aesthetic looking rock I've ever seen in my entire life.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the cool thing about the fourteen years is

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<v Speaker 2>there so many different routes you can do, so now

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 2>that I finish them, going back and doing like you

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:05.440
<v Speaker 2>did the Cables rout and Longs, Like doing the Cables

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 2>route would be like a goal to do that, or

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<v Speaker 2>just we saw Laplata that had like a really cool route,

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 2>we didn't do it, but going back and doing that along.

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 1>The ridge over there, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And just doing different iterations of the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like now that you you've made this

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<v Speaker 1>joke a couple of times when we were hiking, and

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<v Speaker 1>I totally agree with it too. You're like, you've kind

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 1>of I don't want to say, like you made it

0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 1>your personality, but you did make it like such a

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>big part of your life for the especially the remaining year.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you know, and then you finish it and

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<v Speaker 1>then you're like, now what I like laid.

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<v Speaker 3>In bed for two weeks? Like what am I supposed

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 3>to do with myself?

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 3>Is this how life ends? Am I done?

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<v Speaker 1>Because a lot of those goals that you mentioned are

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 1>they're great goals, but you could do those in you know, theoretically,

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 1>like a day or two. Except for l CAAP, I

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 1>guess ituld probably take a little bit longer. Yeah, plus

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 1>the training for it. But it's hard to find a

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 1>goal that takes you years, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, that's why you always got set different goals,

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<v Speaker 2>new goals after have a goal before you start the

0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 2>next goal, so that you always have something to look

0:33:59.040 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 2>forward to.

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 1>It's really smart. Actually, that's good advice from Hannah. Start

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 1>a goal before you finish the last goal. I might

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 1>need to take your advice on that one. That's good. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll be sure to keep a look out for that.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your Instagram plug it so we can.

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<v Speaker 3>All follow you, Hannah underscore on the road.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, you shared your whole Instagram handle there. You

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<v Speaker 1>just don't tell me to no, I know, but you

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:19.959
<v Speaker 1>didn't obviously you have to. You were just talking about

0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 1>how how you wanted to go under a fake alias

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<v Speaker 1>for this podcast, Heather underscore on the Road Off the

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<v Speaker 1>Bike Road. Yeah yeah, sweet, Well, is there anything else

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:31.479
<v Speaker 1>you want to add?

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<v Speaker 3>That's pretty much sums it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you sure?

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:34.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you a second a thing. Okay, Yeah, that's

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 1>all you want to add? Well, Hey, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>say thank you so much for hiking those mountains of me. Absolutely,

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 1>thanks for being a great friend. Absolutely, thanks for reaching

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 1>out to me on Instagram. Absolutely anything you want to

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:52.719
<v Speaker 1>thank me for. All Right, that's gonna do it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it. Thank you guys so much for listening

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 1>to this week's episode of Been There Dean That be

0:34:57.239 --> 0:34:58.880
<v Speaker 1>sure to tune in next week, where maybe we suggest

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit less