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Speaker 2: Oh, welcome to Executive Dysfunction, a podcast.
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Speaker 2: Ed, it's Electoral Disuction colectile.
Speaker 4: Executive Disordered, our weekly newscast covering what's happening in the
Speaker 4: White House, the crumbling world, and what it means for you.
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Speaker 4: I'm Garrison Davis today him joined by James Stout, Mio Wong,
Speaker 4: and Robert Evans, who never knows the title of the
Speaker 4: podcast that he's on.
Speaker 2: In my defense, I'm on a lot of podcasts, I.
Speaker 3: Was gonna say, just because Robert Evans lives in like
Speaker 3: a constant podcast.
Speaker 4: This episode, we are covering the week of February twelve
Speaker 4: to February nineteen. Let's start with a brief Eric Adams update,
Speaker 4: or as I call it, an.
Speaker 3: Ew that's a Turkish for Eric Adams update.
Speaker 4: So, in response to the calls to drop the Turkish
Speaker 4: corruption charges against New York Mayor Eric Adams, eight top
Speaker 4: federal prosecutors have resigned in protest. Then we had four
Speaker 4: deputy mayors leave office. The New York Governor is now
Speaker 4: considering removing Adams from office, which somehow is something that
Speaker 4: the governor of New York has power to do, by
Speaker 4: the way, and also the city council speaker has called
Speaker 4: on the mayor to resign. There's a judge doing a
Speaker 4: hearing on Wednesday as we are recording this right now,
Speaker 4: on whether to appoint a special prosecutor to continue prosecuting
Speaker 4: the charges despite you know, Trump's effort to have these
Speaker 4: charges drops to help to help Adams make sure that
Speaker 4: ice raids can continue in this city in a very
Speaker 4: very clear quid pro quo. So this is a developing story.
Speaker 4: We will continue on the Eric Adams front as this changes.
Speaker 5: By the way, people could miss it the first time,
Speaker 5: like a few months ago, we did record an entire
Speaker 5: episode about the things that he actually did, which are
Speaker 5: unbelievably funny. So go listen to that. We're not going
Speaker 5: to talk about them here, but it very very funny corruption.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you didn't get the Turkey joke, we explain
Speaker 3: it in detail there.
Speaker 4: I'm sure people are familiar with the Turkey situation in general.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 4: Next, on a related note, on Tuesday, President Trump instructed
Speaker 4: the DOJ to fire all Biden appointed US attorneys. Now,
Speaker 4: usually these types of appointments do resign at the end
Speaker 4: of their president's term. But Trump just immediately going out
Speaker 4: to fire all of them is a new, unique, and
Speaker 4: noteworthy and Trump has done some other noteworthy things to
Speaker 4: expand executive power, and for more on that, I will
Speaker 4: turn to Mia Wong.
Speaker 5: Oh Boy. So yesterday, on Tuesday the eighteenth, Trump signed
Speaker 5: an executive order that effectively is just him saying the
Speaker 5: words I am the law over and over again. The
Speaker 5: actual sort of content of the executive order is convoluted,
Speaker 5: but basically what he's saying is that, like the presidency
Speaker 5: and like him specifically, is in control of all government agencies.
Speaker 5: And this is an end to a very very long
Speaker 5: standing practice of well, okay, attempt to end the long
Speaker 5: standing practice of there being like independent regulatory agencies which
Speaker 5: were set up by Congress. And what what Trump was
Speaker 5: doing here is claiming that, you know, this is the
Speaker 5: thing called the unitary executive theory. There's a whole history
Speaker 5: of this Republican Party. This is the most unhinged unitary
Speaker 5: executive theory thing we've ever seen, where he is just
Speaker 5: straight up claiming that he should be able to run
Speaker 5: all these things that none of these independent regulatory agencies
Speaker 5: and this includes stuff like the FCC, the Securities and
Speaker 5: Exchange Commission, stuff like that actually all just directly answered
Speaker 5: to him and not to you know, Congress or or
Speaker 5: as you know, function as independent bodies like they were
Speaker 5: set up to be by Acts of Congress. It states
Speaker 5: that everyone's legal opinions that come out of these things
Speaker 5: like have to agree with legal opinions of the Presidency.
Speaker 5: And it basically sets up reporting thing where all of
Speaker 5: these things have to like report any major policy decisions
Speaker 5: that they're going to make to Russell Vott, who's like
Speaker 5: one of the co authors of Project twenty twenty five. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so in some sense, it's a codification of the stuff
Speaker 5: he's already been trying to do. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Ever since basically he got inaugurated again, they've been trying
Speaker 4: to push for this complete unitary executive power as like
Speaker 4: running the entire not just running the entirely executive branch,
Speaker 4: but all of these agencies that they want to rope
Speaker 4: under the authority of the executive branch.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And there's a number of sort of alarming things about
Speaker 5: this one. This is a like even by the standards
Speaker 5: of like peak War on Terror, Bush Administration Ship where
Speaker 5: they're just like grabbing people off the streets like this
Speaker 5: is a unprecedented sort of seizure of executive power.
Speaker 3: Two.
Speaker 5: And I think this is also worth noting in the
Speaker 5: context of a bunch of the shit he's been saying
Speaker 5: over the past week. Like last week he had the
Speaker 5: the he who says his country does not violate any law,
Speaker 5: which is like, I think, think a fake Napoleon quote.
Speaker 2: It's a fake Napoleon quote from a movie made in
Speaker 2: the nineteen seventies in the Soviet Union. I believe the
Speaker 2: name of the movie was Wateroo That rules. It's famous
Speaker 2: because they'd made they had some massive thousands and thousands
Speaker 2: of actual like soldiers, like set piece battles. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that's where the quote. I think the quote may have
Speaker 2: another origin, but that's the famous origin. It probably was
Speaker 2: never said by Napoleon.
Speaker 4: Well, and earlier today, the official White House account tweeted
Speaker 4: about abolishing the New York City congestion pricing with basically
Speaker 4: like a magazine cover style image of Trump wearing a
Speaker 4: crown with texts that reads, long Live the King.
Speaker 5: And again that was the That was the official Twitter
Speaker 5: account of the White.
Speaker 4: House, which has also been doing something like unhinged posting,
Speaker 4: including like ASMR deportation videos. It's like really dark stuff,
Speaker 4: like like viscerally upsetting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is like the opening credit Somebody's Austin movie.
Speaker 3: The White House twitter feed right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the stuff like you used to not be
Speaker 2: able to talk about being a king an American polity.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty recently.
Speaker 5: That's kind of the whole point of this country.
Speaker 2: There's a state where the whole motto is six simper tyrannus.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the unit of the the United States military.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, And okay, so I want to come back
Speaker 5: on to the thing for a second talk about one
Speaker 5: of the things that probably will be the crucial legal fight,
Speaker 5: which is that like he's claiming the ability to be
Speaker 5: the person who interprets the law, and you know, there's
Speaker 5: a whole bunch of sort of legal fuzziness about that
Speaker 5: and about to what extent these things are supposed to
Speaker 5: be independent, but probably isn't the culmination of his attempt
Speaker 5: to literally like rule the entire country by executive fiat.
Speaker 5: But this is such a big step. Yeah, this is
Speaker 5: this is a massive step towards that. And I think,
Speaker 5: you know, and we like Okay, this is one of
Speaker 5: these things where we literally have no idea what the
Speaker 5: consequences of this will be, because, like we are, we
Speaker 5: are so far into the great beyond that shit is
Speaker 5: happening that a year ago, if you proposed it, everyone
Speaker 5: would have thought you were completely out of your mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, and this is stuff that that like Robert has
Speaker 4: been talking about for a long time. There's been a
Speaker 4: lot of people talking about the Heritage Foundations push for
Speaker 4: the unitary executive theory, stuff that Curtis Harrabin's been talking about.
Speaker 4: Like my article last week on Shattersone kind of underlines
Speaker 4: where they are going with with this. And and yeah,
Speaker 4: like the consequences are so vast and unknowable because we've
Speaker 4: we've never had an executive that is kind of this
Speaker 4: successfully or like this focused in his attempts to seize
Speaker 4: like total executive control over the entirety of the federal government.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I want to end with like one of
Speaker 5: the other really chilling parts of this, which is that
Speaker 5: if you read the executive Order, the underlying logic of
Speaker 5: it is that like the president is like the physical
Speaker 5: manifestation of the will of the people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just the fear of prince.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, never been done before like that.
Speaker 5: And also specifically then Napoleon quote about like he U
Speaker 5: say the country's not violin me low, Like that is
Speaker 5: literally the legal principle that Carl Schmidt developed, like specifically
Speaker 5: to put Hitler in power as the fewer Ye, So this.
Speaker 4: Is great, I mean, and Musk and Trump have been
Speaker 4: saying stuff akin to that in interviews, like being asked
Speaker 4: like how is Doge allowed to do this sort of stuff?
Speaker 4: Musk and Trump have been saying, well, the people voted
Speaker 4: for this, like we we are. We are enabling the
Speaker 4: will of the people, even if that like you know,
Speaker 4: goes past like our technical authority, it's what the people wanted.
Speaker 4: So we're gonna remove all of these bureaucrats that ordinarily
Speaker 4: would try to stop us, because we have like the
Speaker 4: consent of the.
Speaker 3: Governed, the mandate of Heaven.
Speaker 4: Even if that just completely bypasses Congress, even if that
Speaker 4: denies the courts, which we'll talk about more later, they
Speaker 4: are willing to go as far as as they can't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and no one stopped them yet, right, Like, I.
Speaker 4: Mean, some of the courts are trying, but trying isn't
Speaker 4: good enough.
Speaker 3: They seem to be an open violation of that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like they would call to keep paying USAID stuff and
Speaker 3: they just said they won't.
Speaker 5: More on that later.
Speaker 4: Let's touch on immigration with James and then and then
Speaker 4: we will have a quick break.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Perfect, Okay, So what I want to talk about
Speaker 3: is this. It was first reported by the New York Times.
Speaker 3: I've since confirmed it with sources on the ground in Panama.
Speaker 3: The Trump administration is detaining migrants that it can't deport
Speaker 3: to their home countries in Panama currently. So currently, these
Speaker 3: are places where the US doesn't have good relations with
Speaker 3: their government. Right, they'll be Afghans, they'll be Iranians, people
Speaker 3: like that. The US seems to have found a way
Speaker 3: to deport Venezuelan's using an airline that was sanctioned until
Speaker 3: the day had apparently landed in a US military base
Speaker 3: to take Venezuelan people back to Venezuela. If you want
Speaker 3: to hear about like people leaving Iran and why they're
Speaker 3: leaving Iran, you can listen to my episodes I did
Speaker 3: in the Dadian Gap. They came out late October November
Speaker 3: of last year. But right now they're being kind of
Speaker 3: corraled in a hotel in Panama City from what I've heard,
Speaker 3: and just this morning the transport to Sanvicente began. So
Speaker 3: the New York Times kind of mischaracterizes the detention center
Speaker 3: at Sanvicente. I'm guessing this is because they haven't been
Speaker 3: there and I have. They called it like a detention
Speaker 3: center that's being built, quote close to the jungle. It
Speaker 3: looks close to the jungle if you're looking on Google Maps,
Speaker 3: I suppose it's off it's off the Pan American Highway. Actually,
Speaker 3: you literally take a dirt road off the Pan American
Speaker 3: Highway and you come across this huge prison facility. It's
Speaker 3: all big, modern white buildings. The old facility that was
Speaker 3: there burned down and it's been rebuilt largely I'm getting
Speaker 3: with money from when the Biden administration was funding deportations
Speaker 3: for Panama in twenty twenty four. It's a vast attention facility.
Speaker 3: At the time when I went there, my fixered Daddy
Speaker 3: and Ella and I weren't allowed to access the facility,
Speaker 3: but it was very clearly like too big for what
Speaker 3: its stated purpose was. It stated purpose was people who
Speaker 3: had warrants for their arrest and had been found to
Speaker 3: have warrant for their arrest when they entered Panama and
Speaker 3: were being deported back to the countries where they had warrants.
Speaker 3: I've spoken to half anoutand twenty dozen people who were
Speaker 3: detained there, and I just got one quote surely to
Speaker 3: read and then we can talk about this. They treated
Speaker 3: us very badly verbally and psychologically. We all had to
Speaker 3: do our business in the same cell. They threw food
Speaker 3: on the floor for us to eat, and we were
Speaker 3: all in handcuffs. Jesus Christ.
Speaker 4: So is this a result of like Rubio's negotiations with Panama? Like,
Speaker 4: how is this like logistically operating in terms of like
Speaker 4: the US dropping people into a totally different country that
Speaker 4: like they also just don't have citizenship too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So legality of taking somewhere to a third country,
Speaker 3: it's a little unclear, right, of course, the United States
Speaker 3: has done this well. Guantanamo Bay is technically American soil,
Speaker 3: I guess, But they've also they've done it in other
Speaker 3: places around the world that are not Guantanamo Bay throughout
Speaker 3: the War on Terror. This is not the same as
Speaker 3: the El Salvador Plan. The United States Department of Homeland
Speaker 3: Security Secretary for Homeland Security attended the inauguration of the
Speaker 3: new Panamanian president. DHS and the Panamanian executive have a
Speaker 3: very close relationship. Got it the US was funding deportations
Speaker 3: for Panama under Biden. They claimed that these were only
Speaker 3: people who had warrant for their arrest in the countries
Speaker 3: they were being deported back to. When I spoke to
Speaker 3: those people, like I was there when they literally took
Speaker 3: the families apart, right, put the people in a truck,
Speaker 3: sent them off to San Vicente and deported them. And
Speaker 3: these guys, if they had warrant for their arrest, it
Speaker 3: seems very odd because when they arrived back in Columbia,
Speaker 3: they were not detained or arrested. And like, if you
Speaker 3: have a warrant for someone and they get handed to you,
Speaker 3: that's when you're going to detain them, right, And none
Speaker 3: of them were detained. They've just released back to their
Speaker 3: day to day life in Columbia. So like, there was
Speaker 3: definitely precedent for this set by the Biden administration, But
Speaker 3: what's happening now is is a degree worse right, taking people.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the long term plan for these
Speaker 3: Afghan and Aralian people is right where they going to
Speaker 3: live in San Vicente?
Speaker 5: Like, who's custody are they in?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Like is this like a DHS black site, Like
Speaker 3: is it a yeah? No, absolutely are they? Are they
Speaker 3: on US soil in Sandy Sente? Certainly when I was there,
Speaker 3: it was secured exclusively by Panamanian authorities, not by US authorities.
Speaker 3: So like the legal process, I'm guessing, like I don't
Speaker 3: know if there is one beyond, Like we can't deport
Speaker 3: these people back to their countries. We want to number
Speaker 3: needs to go up, right. There's been reporting that Donald
Speaker 3: Trump is upset that his deportation numbers haven't hit the
Speaker 3: numbers that Biden did. Yeah, And so they're doing things
Speaker 3: like this, which appears to be move fast and break things.
Speaker 3: I guess, like, I don't really know how to describe it.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's the entire motto of the new Trump
Speaker 4: term in general. And things are being broken.
Speaker 3: Yes they are, yeah, including lots of human rights conventions.
Speaker 3: As we're recording this on Wednesday afternoon, I just heard
Speaker 3: from a friend in Panama that three hundred people were
Speaker 3: transferred to San Vicente, and it looks like one hundred
Speaker 3: and seventy nine of them have no sort of clear
Speaker 3: path to be deported back to their home countries, no
Speaker 3: accepted place to send them. So those are the people
Speaker 3: who seem to be in legal limbo right now in
Speaker 3: Panama and sem Vicente for a matter of time that
Speaker 3: we don't know, in a status that we don't yet.
Speaker 3: No isn't clear. But yeah, this is pretty bad. Like
Speaker 3: I say, I've been on the ground. I don't many
Speaker 3: other reporters who have been on the ground is sam Vicente.
Speaker 3: We're very well sourced in Panama and among the migrant communities,
Speaker 3: so we're going to continue reporting on this. I've already
Speaker 3: sent some requests for comment out, so I would expect
Speaker 3: us to have something out on this in the next
Speaker 3: couple of weeks, hopefully.
Speaker 4: All right, let's go on a quick ad break and
Speaker 4: come back to talk about RFK Junior.
Speaker 5: Okay, we are back.
Speaker 3: I need to take off my plate carrier.
Speaker 4: It's crushing me with as James takes off his plate
Speaker 4: carrier that he's wearing for some reason.
Speaker 2: It's company policy that we all wear body arm or
Speaker 2: well recording because of an accident that occurred several weeks ago.
Speaker 2: We don't need to get into it. Garrison, Please continue, Garrison,
Speaker 2: say something.
Speaker 3: Rude or offensive when I had to take my headmans
Speaker 3: off to take off my play carrier. Yes.
Speaker 4: So last week, last week RFK Junior was confirmed as
Speaker 4: Secretary of Health and Human Services.
Speaker 5: This is one I thought there might be a slightly
Speaker 5: more pushback on. But oh, oh, how naive I was, Oh, yeah, No,
Speaker 5: they are beaten into a corner.
Speaker 3: I didn't a fight.
Speaker 4: On February thirteenth, Trump signed in executive order establishing a
Speaker 4: Commission to make America Healthy Again. In the third paragraph,
Speaker 4: the order states quote unquote, concern over the quote unquote
Speaker 4: staggering increase of autism, and the next paragraph takes aim
Speaker 4: at ADHD medication not great, not ideal, and the order
Speaker 4: continues to be pretty bad. I will do a direct
Speaker 4: quote here quote. This postes a dire threat to the
Speaker 4: American people and our way of life. To fully address
Speaker 4: the growing health crisis in America, we must redirect our
Speaker 4: national focus in the public and private sectors towards understanding
Speaker 4: and drastically lowering chronic disease rates and ending childhood chronic disease.
Speaker 4: This includes fresh thinking on nutrition, physical activity, healthy lifestyles
Speaker 4: over reliance on medication and treatments and effects of new
Speaker 4: technological habits, environmental impacts, and food and drug quality and
Speaker 4: safety unquote fresh thinking.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Like, one of the like types of guys who I've
Speaker 3: run into when I'm out in the mountains is people
Speaker 3: who like have very reasonably assessed that people in the
Speaker 3: United States don't have access to the healthiest food, especially
Speaker 3: they don't have a lot of money, and that that
Speaker 3: is impacting their health. Right, that's a fair enough assessment,
Speaker 3: sure to go from that to like, and I just
Speaker 3: want someone who will do something about it. So I
Speaker 3: guess this RFK guy is okay.
Speaker 4: No, No, everything in this order has the most like
Speaker 4: dog whistly language. Oh yeah, that not only like directly
Speaker 4: targets life saving medication, but it can also be used
Speaker 4: to target like vaccines, and like it's it's really worrying.
Speaker 3: And there's a measles outbreak right now right in Laredo,
Speaker 3: like in Texas, three.
Speaker 2: Hundred people last I checked in Laredo around Laredo.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's been an increasing number of measles outbreaks the
Speaker 4: past like five years in this country.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're not aware of how devastating measles outbreaks
Speaker 3: can be. I'd really encourage you to look into the
Speaker 3: outbreak in Samoa and the absolutely heartbreaking consequences of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which RFK Junior helped cause by pushing a shitload
Speaker 2: of anti vaccine propaganda. Here, something like eighty people died,
Speaker 2: most of them children.
Speaker 3: Jesus. Yeah, they ran out of child sized coffins and
Speaker 3: had to us for people to send more.
Speaker 2: Well, which leads to a separate problem. But you know,
Speaker 2: if you go to Childcoffins dot com and put in
Speaker 2: the promo code, it could happen here anyway. Ten percent off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, RFK gets you twenty percent off the Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: a good business to be in.
Speaker 4: Speaking of Section two of the order calls to quote
Speaker 4: unquote aggressively combat critical health challenges such as quote the
Speaker 4: rising rates of mental health disorders and diabetes. So RFK
Speaker 4: has been a number of statements that are worrying, which
Speaker 4: is just a blanket statement that I can make, but
Speaker 4: specifically talking about how to treat diabetes with like, you know,
Speaker 4: lifestyle changes and like in changing your diet habits and
Speaker 4: like a whole bunch of extremely worrying stuff. Section five
Speaker 4: of the order states that with one hundred days This
Speaker 4: new commission, made up of the heads of thirteen various
Speaker 4: agencies and chaired by RFK Junior, is supposed to submit
Speaker 4: their findings that quote assess the threat that potential over
Speaker 4: utilization of medication, certain food ingredients, certain chemicals, and certain
Speaker 4: other exposures posed to children. And assess the prevalence of
Speaker 4: and threat posed by the prescription of selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, antipsychotics,
Speaker 4: mood stabilizers, stimulants, and weight loss drugs unquote the idea
Speaker 4: that we're going to be trying to take away people's
Speaker 4: antipsychotics while also making handguns more available across the country.
Speaker 2: Yes, more children with handguns, less children on antipsychotics.
Speaker 4: Like, but like this is this is targ getting like
Speaker 4: depression medication, mood stabilizers, meds for ADHD, you know, like antipsychotics.
Speaker 4: And then also you know, lines about certain chemicals absolutely
Speaker 4: being like an anti vaccine dog whistle.
Speaker 5: Also also we have to mention to the diabetes part
Speaker 5: of this. Yeah, where that is uh an unbelievably alarming
Speaker 5: thing for for him to be say, Yeah, it's pretty
Speaker 5: bad because like the thing about diabetes is you don't
Speaker 5: have to feel like your body can't, like literally can't
Speaker 5: physically fucking process shit. You can't actually solve that with exercise.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, and like I'll just say, like I've worked
Speaker 3: in diabetes education in the past, right, and in various
Speaker 3: nonprofit capacities. Not that kind of doctor, but I have
Speaker 3: seen the people who have died because they have been
Speaker 3: subjected to this kind of bullshit. Like I know the
Speaker 3: people who have lost children and loved ones because of this.
Speaker 3: And it is heartbreaking to think that somebody, no, somebody
Speaker 3: trying to make money would like to someone about their health.
Speaker 3: And the people who are most vulnerable to this are
Speaker 3: the people who are also already struggling to access healthcare
Speaker 3: and access medications, and it is disgusting to see the
Speaker 3: government pushing this.
Speaker 4: On Tuesday, r K Junior made his first official statement
Speaker 4: since being confirmed, promising that quote nothing is going to
Speaker 4: be off limits unquote in his quest to make America
Speaker 4: healthy again, telling Health and Human Services staffers quote, some
Speaker 4: of the possible factors we will investigate were formally taboo
Speaker 4: or insufficiently scrutinized unquote, And then, according to Politico, RFK
Speaker 4: Junior suggests that he would direct HHS to investigate antidepression, drugs,
Speaker 4: ultra processed food, electromagnetic radiation, and the herbicide glysophate. So
Speaker 4: that seems to be some of their first targets.
Speaker 5: Four G, five G cell tower shit great.
Speaker 2: Great, yeah, yeah, no, Now I am excited for people
Speaker 2: to both not have food and also not have adderall. Uh.
Speaker 2: That's that's really going to make quite an interesting mob.
Speaker 4: Our economy is going to crash if they if they
Speaker 4: remove adderall, this whole country is going to cake.
Speaker 2: If we are going to see stockbrokers leaping out of
Speaker 2: windows at rates unheard.
Speaker 3: Of, it's that stuff.
Speaker 5: We are simply going to move to an economy that
Speaker 5: is entirely based on the consumption of cocaine and meth
Speaker 5: like one of these things is going to happen.
Speaker 2: That's true. Adderall is going to be worth more by
Speaker 2: weight than gold. People. Vans will be the new legal currency.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna start store them like pepper corns.
Speaker 2: I bought a house with two months of vivants.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jesus.
Speaker 4: Lastly, before we go on, break borders are Tom Homan
Speaker 4: has been on a crusade against AOC and others for
Speaker 4: holding Know Your Rights trainings specifically informing constituents, including legal
Speaker 4: citizens who are being harassed by ICE that you do
Speaker 4: not need to open the door. If ICE knocks on
Speaker 4: your door, you can ask them to leave, You can
Speaker 4: stay silent. You don't need to share personal information. You
Speaker 4: have the right to speak with an attorney, and you
Speaker 4: do not need to sign anything or hand over any documents.
Speaker 4: So there's been you know, like webinars and trainings informing
Speaker 4: people of their rights. And this is really upset borders
Speaker 4: our Tom Homan who last week went on Fox News
Speaker 4: to accuse AOC of impediment, which is not a real word. Yes,
Speaker 4: and he announced that he has directed or has asked
Speaker 4: the DOJ and the Deputy Attorney General to investigate AOC
Speaker 4: for interfering with ICE actions by simply educating people about
Speaker 4: their rights. I have a clip here I'm going to
Speaker 4: play in the podcast with Homan on Sean Hannity.
Speaker 1: When does it cross a line into aiding and embedding
Speaker 1: law breaking?
Speaker 2: It wouldn't have to have direct involvement by her in
Speaker 2: helping people to evade ICE.
Speaker 6: That's exactly the question I pull go to the deput
Speaker 6: Attorney General. I asked them to look into I says,
Speaker 6: I you know, I know I through my career, someone
Speaker 6: steps in front of it, in between you and the
Speaker 6: personal rest and your repeating yeah, that's a violation. But
Speaker 6: what point do you cross line on saying you're educating
Speaker 6: people versus your teaching howled bade ice wrest. So I've
Speaker 6: asked that question to the Department of Justice for clear
Speaker 6: guidance so I can share that with the officers advice.
Speaker 6: So we're looking for that, uh, clear direction so we
Speaker 6: can start taking action. And people don't want to invade,
Speaker 6: who want to help educate these people to evade ice.
Speaker 6: So hopefully any day now we get that guidance sent
Speaker 6: out to the field.
Speaker 4: Let's turn this over to discussion. James, I'm sure, I'm
Speaker 4: sure you have some thoughts on this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, this is the kind of foundational to the
Speaker 3: Constitution rights access to an attorney, the right to an attorney,
Speaker 3: And it's again something that like even under Biden, that
Speaker 3: the DHS have been taking a swing at. Specifically, we've
Speaker 3: done an episode last year about transferring detained people in
Speaker 3: ice custom away from their attorneys. Right in this most
Speaker 3: cases it was people from California, specificlarly San Diego, County
Speaker 3: because San Diego County had a program that funded some
Speaker 3: attorney access and moving them to Texas. So like you're
Speaker 3: either going to bleed that program dry flying attorneys to
Speaker 3: Texas or have them do it over a phone call.
Speaker 3: But a lot of these people who are detained because
Speaker 3: they come from dictatorial countries don't feel like phone calls
Speaker 3: are secure, and so they're they're not really going to
Speaker 3: feel comfortable talking to their attorney on a phone call.
Speaker 3: We've done a whole episode about.
Speaker 4: That, you can go back and listen to it, and
Speaker 4: like this is very basic Fourth Amendment stuff and that
Speaker 4: this this applies to you whether or not you were
Speaker 4: a citizen, and this applies.
Speaker 5: To you if you are in this country.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have these rights.
Speaker 4: And it is within ices and the Tom Holman's interests
Speaker 4: to make people not realize that they actually do have
Speaker 4: rights regardless of their immigration status.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, Like they're not gonna tell you, necessarily, right
Speaker 3: what rights you have. No, they're not going to tell
Speaker 3: you they don't have the right to enter your house.
Speaker 4: Police want to enter your home and if you open
Speaker 4: the door, they but you do not need to open
Speaker 4: the door. And like this is like very basic stuff
Speaker 4: of informing people, really getting on Tom Homan's nervous. He's
Speaker 4: been on news like five times the past week to
Speaker 4: specifically complain about AOZ. He really wants sort of get
Speaker 4: arrested for this thing that's not a crime.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's kind of what they're going forward throughout, right,
Speaker 3: But like I know, for instance, in California, lots of
Speaker 3: universities have these like know your Rights cards accessible that
Speaker 3: you can have them in your lectures and give them
Speaker 3: out your students so they can take them regardless of
Speaker 3: citizenship status, right, which is generally the way to approach
Speaker 3: this right with a with an agnostic approach to citizenship. Correct,
Speaker 3: you don't certainly want to be holding a if you're
Speaker 3: undocumented come to this thing at this time and will
Speaker 3: give you a know your Right session like that. That
Speaker 3: is not a smart way to approach this. But yeah,
Speaker 3: like immigration agnostic know your rights trainings, they're kind of
Speaker 3: foundational to to like constitutional rights that they're pretty much
Speaker 3: front and center.
Speaker 4: Of things you're allowed. Do you know what else is
Speaker 4: front center advertisements? That's right, it's in their article twenty two.
Speaker 3: It's like they they can't put the soldiers in your
Speaker 3: bedroom unless that's once hit by.
Speaker 2: I mean, look depending on the soldier.
Speaker 5: All Right, we are back, Mia. It's a time for
Speaker 5: tariff talk. Yeah, time of tariff Talk.
Speaker 2: Tariff Talk. Dan Will inserts a little little musical jingle
Speaker 2: here for tariff Talk.
Speaker 3: Daniel.
Speaker 5: I'll not but an editor on this podcast for years, but.
Speaker 2: Sure, tariff Talk, Tariff Talk talking about terriff.
Speaker 5: Tariff talk with me a walk.
Speaker 2: There we go.
Speaker 3: I thought Garrison said turf talk in a Canadian way.
Speaker 2: It was like very different podcast, much more cursing.
Speaker 5: Why not Mia, Mia, tariff Talk. Okay, Okay, I got
Speaker 5: a through line, which is that Trump is announcing that
Speaker 5: he's going to maybe sign an executive order to put
Speaker 5: into effect more terriffs. One of those is pharmaceuticals, which
Speaker 5: would actually would actually like possibly impact shashy your healthcare.
Speaker 5: So there's my tie in. Okay, But those the main
Speaker 5: things is auto imports like computer chips and pharmaceuticals are
Speaker 5: supposed to get we think in April like a twenty
Speaker 5: five percent terri if. It's again unclear whether these will
Speaker 5: go into effecting break but I think it's worth noting
Speaker 5: this because and this is something I haven't seen anyone
Speaker 5: put together for reasons that are absolutely baffling to me.
Speaker 5: But I actually think that a big part of the
Speaker 5: pharmaceutical like tariff threat here is specifically to threaten Denmark
Speaker 5: into selling Greenland because one of Denmark's largest companies is
Speaker 5: nov and Nordius, who would get absolutely colossally fucked by this. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: And so we sort of have to look at all
Speaker 5: of these in the context of, like what kinds of
Speaker 5: negotiations are going on. That chips one is pretty obviously
Speaker 5: like a China Taie one one, although the cars, the
Speaker 5: auto import one, I think is specific pretty specifically it's
Speaker 5: it's all auto imports. I think it's pretty specifically targeted
Speaker 5: at Mexico because there's a whole bunch of auto like
Speaker 5: like full car imports from Mexico. But yeah, twenty five
Speaker 5: percent tariffs. Will see exactly what happens with this round
Speaker 5: of negotiations, but who knows they might go into effect.
Speaker 5: This might also be part of the push to the
Speaker 5: US to seize Greenland. This is also less of a
Speaker 5: Trump thing, but I think it's worth noting the sort
Speaker 5: of seriousness that both the kind of the people around
Speaker 5: Trump and also like the media in Canada is taking
Speaker 5: like a potential US attempt to just like sees Canada like,
Speaker 5: oh yeah, like they might really do that.
Speaker 4: Oddly enough, this push from Trump might actually help catalyze
Speaker 4: the anti conservative movement in Canada, which has kind of
Speaker 4: been trending conservative the past ten years.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Trump's actions have really upset the country, even
Speaker 4: the conservative factions. Yeah, you're seeing support for the Liberals swell,
Speaker 4: which has been like in like rapid decline for the
Speaker 4: past five years. So it's actually causing a pretty big
Speaker 4: shake up in Canadian politics right now, which I'm sure
Speaker 4: I'll do an episode on in the future.
Speaker 2: There's even I don't know if it'll it's going things
Speaker 2: are going to change enough to have a big influence.
Speaker 2: They probably won't on the next German election, but AfD
Speaker 2: saw its first drop and support in a while after
Speaker 2: JD Vance endorsed them. Still doesn't have any juice we
Speaker 2: except send them to the UK.
Speaker 5: We could kill reform now send it to the UK.
Speaker 3: Yeah, God, how I would love to see that.
Speaker 4: I wish to get back on the war on Woke front.
Speaker 4: I like to talk about attempts to purge DEI gone wrong.
Speaker 4: Specifically in OSHA, who has now trashed a workplace of
Speaker 4: safety guidelines by banning and removing like eighteen workplace like
Speaker 4: training and safety publications for a popular info Now. Some
Speaker 4: of these documents have been removed for just containing the
Speaker 4: word like gender wow, like in one case, about how
Speaker 4: patients might need different treatments based.
Speaker 5: On their gender or age.
Speaker 4: This list of banned documents also include a document from
Speaker 4: twosand and nine that instructs employers on how to quote
Speaker 4: unquote protect their EMS responders from becoming additional victims while
Speaker 4: on the front line of medical response unquote. The alleged
Speaker 4: reason for removal is because the document contains a sentence
Speaker 4: about how EMT workers work under quote unquote diverse conditions
Speaker 4: and that EMT agencies have a quote diversity of state
Speaker 4: specific certification, training, and regulatory requirements.
Speaker 2: There was also a special education program dedicated to helping
Speaker 2: young adult special ed kids transition into the workforce that
Speaker 2: got cut, and the suspicion is because it was a
Speaker 2: child program that included the word transition.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 2: We're not going to know for a while the precise reason,
Speaker 2: but all of this lines up pretty well well.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure it would also be removing programs
Speaker 4: with the word disability.
Speaker 2: Frankly like yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I mean, and they're
Speaker 2: doing that elsewhere too.
Speaker 4: I just yeah, And this is affecting a huge number
Speaker 4: of agencies, right, We could do we probably will do
Speaker 4: whole episodes on this. I've been collecting a whole bunch
Speaker 4: of resources in a document called the War on Woke,
Speaker 4: which eventually I will turn into an episode. This is
Speaker 4: manifested in otherwise as well. There's now disclaimers on the
Speaker 4: target HIV and the CDC website, which now reads the
Speaker 4: CDC's website. It's being modified to comply with President Trump's
Speaker 4: executive orders, and specifically, on pages related to sexual health,
Speaker 4: there is a big like a top banner reading quote.
Speaker 4: Per court order, HHS is required to restore this website.
Speaker 4: As of eleven fifty nine pm February fourteen, twenty twenty five,
Speaker 4: any information on this page promoting gender ideology is extremely
Speaker 4: inaccurate and disconnected from the immutable biological reality that there
Speaker 4: are two sexes, male and female. The Trump administration rejects
Speaker 4: gender ideology and condemns the harms it causes to children
Speaker 4: by promoting their chemical and surgical mutilation and to women
Speaker 4: by depriving them of their dignity, safety, well being, and opportunities.
Speaker 4: This page does not reflect biological reality, and therefore the
Speaker 4: administration and this department rejects it out. So even though
Speaker 4: they've been ordered to have these web pages, it's still online.
Speaker 4: They are basically defacing the web pages with these with
Speaker 4: these notes from the Trump team.
Speaker 5: Yeah. That also, by the way, and the extent to
Speaker 5: which this matters is basically zero because they don't give
Speaker 5: a shit with the court say, but like, that's also
Speaker 5: a violation of the court order. Pretty much. They did
Speaker 5: not put up the website as it was at the
Speaker 5: time were specified for. They have put new bullshit into it.
Speaker 4: Like, but speaking of violating court orders, the Trump administration
Speaker 4: told a judge in a Tuesday court filing that it
Speaker 4: will not comply with the TRORO directing USAIDED and the
Speaker 4: State Department to resume foreign aid funding, stating that quote
Speaker 4: USAYED intends to terminate instruments that the administrator determines are
Speaker 4: inconsistent with the national interests or usaide's mission. And it
Speaker 4: tries to argue that this is like in line with
Speaker 4: usaide's you know, lawful ability to operate. So they are
Speaker 4: just like blatantly, blatantly defying a judge's order, as we've
Speaker 4: talked about how they seem to be wanting to and
Speaker 4: continuing to do for the past like four weeks. More
Speaker 4: on that in the weeks to come, as this situation
Speaker 4: you know, escalates through different appeals courts and you know,
Speaker 4: will eventually probably reach some kind of final showdown with
Speaker 4: the Supreme Court. Now, longtime Social Security official Michelle King
Speaker 4: has quit the agency amid fights to prevent DOAGE from
Speaker 4: accessing sensitive information. The Washington Post quoted Martin O'Malley, the
Speaker 4: Social Security Commission under the Biden administration and a former
Speaker 4: Maryland governor, as saying, quote, at this rate, they will
Speaker 4: break it, and they will break it fast, and there
Speaker 4: will be an interruption of benefits.
Speaker 5: Unquote.
Speaker 4: Social Security is just one of the agencies that dog
Speaker 4: is either gutting or has already gutted, and it's leading
Speaker 4: to kind of a mass resignation not only of like
Speaker 4: you know, probationary employees and like deferred resignation like letter employees,
Speaker 4: right everyone who's receiving that fork in the road email,
Speaker 4: but also just like top ranking like officials who've been
Speaker 4: doing this their whole lives, who are quitting because now
Speaker 4: it's impossible for them to like do their job with
Speaker 4: Musk's doge basically running all of these departments and determining
Speaker 4: who can be hired who should be fired. In late January,
Speaker 4: David Leibrick, the highest ranking civil servant at the Treasury Department,
Speaker 4: was put on leave and then quit his job after
Speaker 4: trying to stop dog from accessing data at the Bureau
Speaker 4: of Fiscal Service. The head of the FDA's Food Division,
Speaker 4: Jim Jones, resigned last Monday, citing dough as inhibiting his
Speaker 4: ability to run the department. And at least four deadly
Speaker 4: plane crashes have happened this past month, actually five now
Speaker 4: considering well one this morning. And then there's also that
Speaker 4: whole upside down Delta flight from Minneapolis to Toronto. And
Speaker 4: this is all happening amidst the Trump admins mass firing
Speaker 4: of several hundred probationary employees at the FAA, an already
Speaker 4: understaffed agency. And this past Monday, a team from SpaceX
Speaker 4: arrived at the Air Traffic Control headquarters in Virginia to
Speaker 4: begin the process of overhauling the control system.
Speaker 2: Great cool.
Speaker 3: Luckily SpaceX has had no notable incidents and so I'm
Speaker 3: sure that will be fine.
Speaker 2: No, they didn't just hide a racket going off.
Speaker 5: There's there's good news. There is there is good news
Speaker 5: on this front, which is that President Trump is very
Speaker 5: very mad that his new Boeing like plane is like
Speaker 5: his personal plane. For like, I think it's I think
Speaker 5: it's like another air Force one or something isn't.
Speaker 3: Coming fast enough.
Speaker 5: So's he's now encouraging them to like do a rush
Speaker 5: job on it and like let people in doing the
Speaker 5: right security clearances. So so this whole thing critical support
Speaker 5: to Boeing. Critical Boeing, you motherfuckers, you have one job, mister,
Speaker 5: produced an airplane at your normal quality and standards.
Speaker 4: Similar to that on February thirteenth, that an air Force
Speaker 4: plane carrying Secretary of State Mark Rubio was forced to
Speaker 4: turn around en route from Washington to Munich after the aircraft,
Speaker 4: a converted Boeing seven fifty seven, experienced a mechanical issue
Speaker 4: ninety minutes into the flight, so they were forced to
Speaker 4: turn around. So again, critical support to Boeing. I only
Speaker 4: wish them the best in securing more and more government contracts.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, I think we uh uh I actually
Speaker 2: we would probably call it as an episode before I
Speaker 2: make any more jokes about air travel.
Speaker 4: Which is increasingly scary. I flew so much last year,
Speaker 4: and I am less willing to now.
Speaker 2: I do not want to. Now that said, it is
Speaker 2: worth noting. I think there's two things that are worth noting.
Speaker 2: One is most of what people are pointing out as
Speaker 2: like scary crashes are crashes that the same number happened
Speaker 2: to this point last year. When it comes to like
Speaker 2: small aircraft, yeah, those are much more dangerous than cars
Speaker 2: like tiny personal aircraft, which is why I always enjoy
Speaker 2: at cees when they try to sell cars less regulated
Speaker 2: flying cars.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: But I also think from a political standpoint, no, we
Speaker 2: should actually absolutely every single plane crash, even if it's
Speaker 2: a tiny plane crashing and not tied to the greater
Speaker 2: shit with the FAA, all of them should go on
Speaker 2: Trump's head. It's not about what's true, it's about what
Speaker 2: you can use to make political hay. And this is
Speaker 2: something that you can hurt Republicans with. Every time someone
Speaker 2: eyes in a plane crash, lay it at their feet, right, Like,
Speaker 2: what do you get from being honest.
Speaker 4: And it has been one of the more deadly monks
Speaker 4: in aviation. H Yeah, specifically for like American soil.
Speaker 2: They're definitely going to get people killed. But like the
Speaker 2: way that you do that is not wait until okay,
Speaker 2: this is finally the one that it's fair to attack.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you make it.
Speaker 2: You make every time this gets in the news, you
Speaker 2: make it on their head.
Speaker 3: You know, it's certainly not helping, right that, Like the
Speaker 3: FAA was already understuffed, Like as as you said, people
Speaker 3: were already dying in plane crashes. Taking stuff away from
Speaker 3: the FAA is not helping, Like we can't isolate that
Speaker 3: from every crash that happens.
Speaker 4: And like it's it's not just that, it's also like
Speaker 4: the continued they continued hiring freeze. Largely air traffic control
Speaker 4: operators have not been affected by the firings. Other support
Speaker 4: staff have, which are still just as crucial. But it's
Speaker 4: also preventing them from hiring more air traffic controllers, which
Speaker 4: they need to because it's so understaff, which actually does
Speaker 4: lead to an increase of these like small plane collisions.
Speaker 4: And this is this is like a similar pattern across
Speaker 4: all departments. Though, the USDA announced on Tuesday that over
Speaker 4: the weekend they accidentally fired several agency employees who are
Speaker 4: working on the bird flu response as a result of
Speaker 4: the Trump Doge mass firings and now and now USDA
Speaker 4: is trying to rehire them.
Speaker 5: Have we explained the provisional employee firing thing that they're
Speaker 5: doing for all.
Speaker 3: Of these on here yet you should explain what a
Speaker 3: probational employee is.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's employees that I've been hired for less
Speaker 4: than a year and have different protections than other career employees.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And part of Doge's campaign to do like massive massive
Speaker 4: layoffs across all government sectors is by targeting first of
Speaker 4: all probationary employees because they're easiest to fire, and then
Speaker 4: move on to career employees. And like this this is
Speaker 4: just like the first batch of mass layoffs because they're
Speaker 4: the easiest to do. They don't have like union negotiations,
Speaker 4: they can't appeal the firing. So this is like the
Speaker 4: first step in a larger series of events that will
Speaker 4: lead to, you know, a severely reduced government workforce. And
Speaker 4: like this situation with the USDA is a very similar
Speaker 4: situation with the Nuclear Strategy employees who the government is
Speaker 4: struggling to rehire because they lost contact information with them
Speaker 4: after firing them.
Speaker 5: They fired the Duke Police.
Speaker 2: They fired the guys whose job is to transport and
Speaker 2: make sure no one steals nuclear weapons. I cannot have
Speaker 2: the one kind of cop we can all agree we
Speaker 2: need as long as we keep having those things.
Speaker 5: This is one of these things where it's like like
Speaker 5: I've been saying, not even really as a joke, that
Speaker 5: millions of people are going to die from this, but
Speaker 5: like yeah, like if these people are not stopped, oh,
Speaker 5: you will have a broken arrow. We are like two
Speaker 5: months into this. This is the second time they have
Speaker 5: tried to fire the nuke Police, and they actually succeeded
Speaker 5: this time. Right, Like millions of people are going to die,
Speaker 5: and they lost their phone number. They can't even call
Speaker 5: them back, Like they don't don't the numbers of the security,
Speaker 5: Like these people must be stopped from doing this or
Speaker 5: or we are going to see a cataclysm that is
Speaker 5: going to make the fucking pandemic look like a fucking joke.
Speaker 5: Like we're all going to look fondly back on like
Speaker 5: the year we spent in lockdown and a million who
Speaker 5: died as like the fucking like smoking remains of seven
Speaker 5: American cities.
Speaker 2: I have an episode on this that I'll put out
Speaker 2: at some point. But you're getting to a thing that
Speaker 2: I've been worried about for a while, Mia, which is,
Speaker 2: we are every day getting closer and closer to a
Speaker 2: nuclear January sixth. And what I mean by that is
Speaker 2: an incident in which a nuclear weapon gets it either
Speaker 2: gets utilized or gets out of the control of its
Speaker 2: proper handlers in a way that is dumb. In the
Speaker 2: same way January sixth to us. So I'm not talking
Speaker 2: about you have like an actual military conflict between Russia
Speaker 2: and the United States. I'm talking about something really fucking stupid,
Speaker 2: Like I'm talking about something incomprehensibly silly. And yeah, millions
Speaker 2: of people will at least potentially die.
Speaker 4: Well, what another uplifted episode of it could happen here?
Speaker 5: Happen here? Stop them now, they're week right now, before
Speaker 5: they do this, they could only get stronger.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, until someone else gets a nuke, then general
Speaker 3: bets are off.
Speaker 2: Like I said, if you are someone who has been
Speaker 2: fired from the federal government, we're transporting a nuke. I
Speaker 2: have a large backyard and cool Zone would would love
Speaker 2: to become a nuclear power.
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