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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast, make way for my man

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Speaker 1: coming through. Welcome to another addition of the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan As. I'm coming to

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Speaker 1: you from a city filled with heroes in bunkers. Mark Seessler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, Greg Grossen thought, what is up boys? Hey Danton?

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Speaker 1: Of course, the iconic quote right there, Mark Sessler at

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Speaker 1: two thousand twenty NFL scouting combine making room for the

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Speaker 1: coronavirus written Sean Payton. Well, we didn't know at that

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Speaker 1: time at all what was going on with Sean Payton.

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Speaker 1: And um, he didn't, he didn't have it. Then he

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Speaker 1: didn't have it. Then we don't. We don't eat that's unclear,

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Speaker 1: Dr Rosenthalt, we don't. That is unconfirmed. But I I

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Speaker 1: you know, I've never tested myself for it. But um,

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Speaker 1: I'm symptom free if I haven't roaming inside my blood

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Speaker 1: stream at the moment you there are. You can get

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Speaker 1: the antibody test, perhaps, Mark, if you want to make

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Speaker 1: sure that Sean Payton didn't do you wrong. There wouldn't

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Speaker 1: it been Sean Payton's fault? But no, I wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: blamed him. Um, directly, they got test for anyone in

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Speaker 1: l A. If you want to mark, you just gotta

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Speaker 1: sign up online. Go for it in retros because everyone

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Speaker 1: got caught, you know, excuse the term with their pants

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Speaker 1: down when it comes to COVID nineteen. If the NFL

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Speaker 1: or the world knew what was coming, scouting combine would

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Speaker 1: have never happened either. And that was quite a hotbed

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Speaker 1: of activity in Indianapolis. Um and now you look where

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Speaker 1: also a lunchtime work lunchtime meeting where Greg This was

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Speaker 1: don't like that being out there at all. Happy belated

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Speaker 1: will do that? All right? This is the Monday edition

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Speaker 1: to the Round the NFL podcast. I hope everyone checked

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Speaker 1: out the Around the NFL Broadcast, our NFL Network show,

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Speaker 1: which returned on Friday, and it will be back on

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Speaker 1: When and if the season begins? We'll find out. Greg,

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Speaker 1: in with Mark Sessler, who wrote a banger. Mark. I

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Speaker 1: Oh my God, should have known. Um. Mark and I

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Speaker 1: and then prime time the Ravens show up again against

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. I'm into that, you know, that's slate. It's okay,

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Speaker 1: But I do have takeaways from one. They gave Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson some big pop in this schedule. They're in prime

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Speaker 1: time a lot, but they're also you know, they're in

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Speaker 1: the kickoff game. That's a big that's a big nod

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Speaker 1: to Deshaun Watson. And they're in Thanksgiving. Uh So that's

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Speaker 1: it's kind of putting some you know, it's putting some

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Speaker 1: faith in the star power of Watson and Bill O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: And that is the only national game of the year

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Speaker 1: that the Redskins are in. What a fall from grace

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Speaker 1: from that franchise. There's been some good Thanksgiving ones and

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Speaker 1: that that is it. They they don't have a single

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Speaker 1: prime thanking. That's a bit overdue. Let's be honest, right,

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Speaker 1: can't just keep pumping that organization at the prime time

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Speaker 1: until they're interesting? Uh And then finally I wrote a

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Speaker 1: revenge games piece. I'm gonna cycle through these. I think

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Speaker 1: we might get West fired up on one of these.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. Week twelve, Carson Wentz against the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: Week six, oh Mark Miles Garrett Pittsburgh Steelers, which they

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Speaker 1: essentially put um in an anonymous early game early slate

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Speaker 1: time spot. I think they don't want to pump that

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Speaker 1: up as as much as you choose to. They cut

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Speaker 1: down the Browns prime time. Yeah, they got to, and

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Speaker 1: they don't deserve more than two. Okay. I wonder if

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Speaker 1: that of the Garrett thing has anything to do with that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think so. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm more paul that the Saints have fewer prime time

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Speaker 1: games than eight other teams. Odell Beckham Odell Beckham Jr.

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Speaker 1: Plays the Giants for the first time in Week fifteen. UH,

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Speaker 1: the Chargers against Tom Brady. Tom Brady was more wants

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Speaker 1: a little bit of evenge. You don't want to come

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Speaker 1: to us. I mean, Dan, you wrote that you seem

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Speaker 1: puzzled by your own entry there. I don't know, man,

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Speaker 1: it's there's a pandemic. Uh, Packers, Niners, Dolphins, Patriots, Texans, Chiefs, Titans, Ravens,

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Speaker 1: Viking Saints, all great revenge matchups, and now we just

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Speaker 1: wait to see if any of it happens. And that's

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Speaker 1: what's happening in the news. All right, Mark, did you

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Speaker 1: write a banger? Sub banger, actual banger? The weird um

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Speaker 1: NFL article that I because it was do you know

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Speaker 1: you get these these monthy can look ahead for the

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Speaker 1: month and here's what you're gonna write, and here's when

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Speaker 1: they're due. I noticed this, you know, got on my

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Speaker 1: radar a while ago. Do Monday morning at seven am? Um, okay,

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Speaker 1: so that means I'm gonna be right right. That means

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be writing that. Um. I wrote it on

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Speaker 1: a Saturday morning, um in our you know, in my backyard,

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Speaker 1: and Sunday is the Sunday is Mother's Day, right, So

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Speaker 1: I I knew that I was dealing with a strict

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Speaker 1: um window to you know, turn this text out. But

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Speaker 1: I had kind of enjoyed writing it because it wasn't

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Speaker 1: one of these ones where you have to dig in

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Speaker 1: and look at you know, PFF and all this other

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Speaker 1: stuff for four hours in a row. It's just kind

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Speaker 1: of like picks and teams that seem like they might

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Speaker 1: be a little on edge or feel a little dismissed

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Speaker 1: by people, and I guess to me that would equal

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Speaker 1: having a chip on your shoulder as a as a franchise. Alright,

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Speaker 1: so you started with the New England Patriots. Why, Well,

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Speaker 1: my first words there were Belichick lives. I just think

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Speaker 1: that it's funny to me that, um, you know, we

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Speaker 1: have no idea how any of this will go. I

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Speaker 1: think they're fascinating to me because anyone ticketing them for

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Speaker 1: five and eleven. Um, fine, that's a reasonably logical outcome

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Speaker 1: because of what's gone. But I still think you're the

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Speaker 1: best coach in football. Who Um, yes, I realized he's,

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Speaker 1: you know, trotting around with his little dog and doing

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Speaker 1: these nice segments. But um, I would I right, I

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Speaker 1: would imagine behind the scenes that Belichick, um would like

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Speaker 1: nothing more than to take whoever starting a quarterback and

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Speaker 1: just stick it to the rest of the league. They

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Speaker 1: have I think, five prime time games, and you know

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Speaker 1: it's fair to think they could be disasters, but I

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Speaker 1: think the opposite on that. On that note you said

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Speaker 1: stick it remind me of Jared Stidham great West excusing

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Speaker 1: you read something in the Boston Sports Journal are the

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Speaker 1: joint where he essentially dug in a little bit on

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Speaker 1: where Stidham actually stands with the Patriots right now. And

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Speaker 1: your takeaway is that a lot of people have this

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Speaker 1: all wrong about what's actually going on at the quarterback position. There.

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Speaker 1: The entire football cognescente has been misreading this quarterback situation

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Speaker 1: for three months, Greg Bard, who told him the Patriots

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Speaker 1: view Jared Stidham is another year away, as not ready

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Speaker 1: as basically as ready as Jimmy Garoppolo was after in

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Speaker 1: the season, which means they just need to see a

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Speaker 1: lot more before they can determine that he's the guy.

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Speaker 1: And Belichick's comments have backed this up that our quarterback

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Speaker 1: room of Brian Hoyer and Jared' Stidham is not by design,

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Speaker 1: that's just the way it's played out. Um, who knows

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Speaker 1: if if Jared Stidham can play. I just think this

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Speaker 1: idea We all think that the Belichick persona now is

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Speaker 1: he's so sneaky, he's got everything figured out and he's

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Speaker 1: always waiting to drop some surprise on the NFL. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's what this is. I think they

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Speaker 1: just haven't found a quarterback that suits them so far.

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton was making too much money. Maybe don't they

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Speaker 1: don't think he's a major upgrade. I don't know why

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Speaker 1: Greg might have been fill on whether they like cam

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Speaker 1: Newton or not. Andy Dalton's making too much money. Well,

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Speaker 1: when the Bengals were trying to trade him, I mean,

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Speaker 1: but he was a free agent. The action standpoint they you,

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Speaker 1: I get by design. They don't just think this is

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Speaker 1: what it would be Hoyer and Stidham, But what's the

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Speaker 1: action item to add someone year? Right? I agree with

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Speaker 1: everything Less said, And I think that's how weirdly Bell

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Speaker 1: A lot of times people say, Okay, Beligian's got all

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Speaker 1: this master plan and here's here's how he like like,

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Speaker 1: I think he is a very in the moment, reactive

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Speaker 1: doing the best decision that he thinks for the team.

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Speaker 1: It's like, I don't think this was part of their

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Speaker 1: long term plan. I think they wanted Tom Brady back

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Speaker 1: on some level, and he and he wanted to go.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think, or at least they were caught

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Speaker 1: a little flat foot. Yeah I know, I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: like they didn't necessarily think he was gonna have a

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Speaker 1: strong market, and they almost were right there, but not

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Speaker 1: not right enough. I think they like Stidham and they

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Speaker 1: like him more than Andy Dalton, or else they would

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Speaker 1: they would have found a way to sign Andy Dalton.

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Speaker 1: Salary cap is significant here. It's also you know, the

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Speaker 1: season hasn't started. They could add someone. The only thing

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Speaker 1: I think that's clear though, is Stidham did beat out

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Speaker 1: Hoyer last year. You know, they got rid of Hoyer

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Speaker 1: because of Stidham's performance and trade an in camp, So

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Speaker 1: that was something that now you did that with Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady being the starter, but they still made that decision.

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Speaker 1: So I just don't see how you are having a

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Speaker 1: very good chance at winning the job if if it's

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Speaker 1: between the two of them, if this is true, If

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Speaker 1: this is true, that inter internally they don't think Jared

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Speaker 1: Stidham is going to be ready for at least another year,

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Speaker 1: Well that's they It was more that they don't know that,

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Speaker 1: Like how could they know that he's played a year?

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Speaker 1: They liked where he was at, but he's a young players.

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Speaker 1: The risk of it all though, that if if you're

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Speaker 1: the Football's are slash GM, as Belichick, your principal job

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Speaker 1: is to have the team prepared um roster wise, and

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Speaker 1: then the coach side of it takes over after that.

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Speaker 1: But there's certainly seems like a very real chance because

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Speaker 1: who thinks Brian Hoyer can really lead anything at this

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Speaker 1: stage of the game, that they'll be completely caught with

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Speaker 1: their pants down. And then you get into the whole

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Speaker 1: theory I can't said pants down again the show. Then

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Speaker 1: you get into the theory that would Belichick be kind

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Speaker 1: of cool that if they ended up being terrible, because

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Speaker 1: maybe that leads to their quarterback of the future. And

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Speaker 1: he is looking two steps or two paces ahead, as

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Speaker 1: many people often assume he is. I think he he's

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Speaker 1: going to adapt and he thinks once he gets into

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Speaker 1: the season and he sees what Stidham has or doesn't like,

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Speaker 1: he thinks there's other ways to win games. And that's

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Speaker 1: how he's operated. I think he looks as his offensive

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Speaker 1: line as a total strength. I think he likes his

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Speaker 1: running backs. I think he loves his secondary, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I think there's things he likes about the team,

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna try to play to those strengths. But

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Speaker 1: you gotta see if Stidham can play or not. Like

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Speaker 1: if you just can't, then you might have to go

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Speaker 1: with Oyer. It's also may. I mean I may not

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Speaker 1: play football until November. I mean, who knows. So I

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Speaker 1: don't think that the quarterback room now is the same

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be by the time the season starts. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's also in Nantucket. I do wonder like he's been

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Speaker 1: in this football grind. I've thought about this, like which

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Speaker 1: teams are gonna benefit and there's it's hard to really know,

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Speaker 1: but I mean it's a totally different offseason for all

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Speaker 1: these coaches too. It's like he's just in Nantucket like

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Speaker 1: cooking up who knows? Why are they gonna be totally

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Speaker 1: different than Like are a lot of teams gonna be

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Speaker 1: totally different from because these coaches are in their bunkers

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Speaker 1: just coming up with crazy ideas that would be fun.

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Speaker 1: Is there, Greg? Is there a Nantucket Martha's Vineyard rivalry

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Speaker 1: up there? I don't think so. I've never been um

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Speaker 1: like elites on elites, right, I mean, and Tuckets like

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Speaker 1: a really small place. I don't know how you get

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Speaker 1: blue blood. Yeah, I don't know how you get there.

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Speaker 1: You know, Martha's Vineyards got like a hundred thousand people

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Speaker 1: and the or eighty thousand people in the summer. I

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Speaker 1: don't think like Nantucket has much in the way of

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Speaker 1: even stores and stuff, But I don't really know. I

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Speaker 1: think they've got some stories. It's just you know, not

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Speaker 1: like a you know, not a tough advantage. Martha the

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Speaker 1: Vineyard also has the Kennedy's right, I feel like that's

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Speaker 1: no neither that they're on Cape Cod Well. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's bringing Ricky on this. Rickie, you are blue blood

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Speaker 1: up there. You come from an incredible amount of wealth.

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Speaker 1: Tell us more. I know Erica is like the only

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Speaker 1: one of us who truly is a blue blood. She

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Speaker 1: never gets any Erica's told the stories of sitting on

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Speaker 1: the lap of Ted Williams and other great uh lumina right,

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Speaker 1: and frankly I thought he was inappropriate. But you know,

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Speaker 1: oh stop that. Um No, Nantucket is the bomb. It's

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Speaker 1: so there's a ton of fairies, even from Martha's Vineyard

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Speaker 1: to Nantucket. Okay, I've never been, I don't know. And

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Speaker 1: the downtown is so historic and beautiful Nantucket over Martha's

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Speaker 1: Vineyard any day. Wow, Ricky coming info that downtown with

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Speaker 1: the cobblestone streets. I know, Martha's Beneard has a lot

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Speaker 1: they're very similar. But Nantucket, oh you get that. You

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Speaker 1: get the you wear your Nantucket reds. You're just on

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Speaker 1: the boat and you know, shark fishing whatever I mean,

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Speaker 1: Nantucket from the top of the deck. That's good info. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's our that's our street smart correspondent. All right,

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Speaker 1: who else, Mark? You have? The entire af C North

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Speaker 1: has a chip on their shoulder? Now talk this one

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Speaker 1: out for that's how you do this. You can't just

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Speaker 1: you know how this works. You can't just pick uh

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Speaker 1: six teams. One of them has to be a little

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Speaker 1: bit different and kind of like a good point. Is

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Speaker 1: it one giant chip collectively on the division itself or

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Speaker 1: do they have four separate chips. Yeah. I think the

637
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 1: imagery was troubling. I mean, kind of a tough imagery

638
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: to begin with. I've gotten a lot of tweets like

639
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: a team doesn't have a shoulder, blah blah blah. So

640
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: it's like, I hear what you're saying, But I would say,

641
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: if you're the Cleveland Browns, you have a chip on

642
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: your shoulder. Because of everything we've talked about over talked

643
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: about on the show with what happened last year. I

644
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: think they're they were embarrassed, UM, and they have a

645
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: lot to prove that that that you can't go out

646
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: and do that again. And I would say they there

647
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: have to be some people, some fairly angry individuals and

648
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: their Steelers. I mean they went eight and eate, they

649
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: lost every quarterback possible. Uh, things couldn't have gone any

650
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: worse for them, and they still see themselves completely as

651
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: a playoff team. UM. I would say the Ravens for

652
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: the way the season ended, it's not that you know

653
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: they were That's two years in a row where the

654
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: playoffs UM equal to shocking departure for Baltimore, but especially

655
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: last year, I mean, they just got totally punked in

656
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: the weirdest way. I still feel like that playoff game,

657
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: UM was one of the weirder experiences I've had UM

658
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: in a while, watching a game and just feeling like

659
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: everything that you didn't expect is happening right in front

660
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: of our eyes. UM twelve. It was never really in question.

661
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: The Titans were in control of the game from the

662
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: very beginning. There was the insane stat speaking to the

663
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: weirdness of the game, I believe the Ravens got stopped

664
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: on fourth and short three times, something that had not

665
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: happened once in sixteen games over their fourteen in two campaign.

666
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: So it was, now, can you is it flukey? I will,

667
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: I'll pull it back. I don't know about the entire team,

668
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: but I certainly could see Lamar Jackson having a chip

669
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: on his shoulder, which you usually don't get from an

670
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 1: m v P because fairly, unfairly a lot of people

671
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: are gonna remember that season for oh yeah, he was

672
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: this amazing dominant player, rush for twelve hundred yards and

673
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: through for thirty yards whatever it was, and then again

674
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: two straight playoff of years he didn't get it done.

675
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: He needs to kind of lose that quote unquote and

676
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: narr which play. I mean, Peyton Manning had that tracking

677
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: him for a while in his career, and like what

678
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: you know. It's one thing I noted in an overly

679
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: long intro of this thing was that I don't think

680
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: that certain players would even care about this, no matter

681
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 1: what team they're on. It's the certain type of guys.

682
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: And like you look at how Bill Parcels knew how

683
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: to rile up Lawrence Taylor five minutes before kickoff and

684
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: deal with another player completely differently, So you know, you

685
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: can't just slap this label on um entire teams or

686
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: frankly an entire division. But I think the Bengals might be.

687
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: But the Bengals, like you know, they've been they even

688
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: when the chip I mean, I don't know, Zach Taylor

689
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 1: doesn't strike again, I'm not I quite. We have questions

690
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: about the coaching staff, but um, they from a maybe

691
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: I would go Bengals fans who I think have just

692
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: taken it um you know, for years and they have

693
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: just they've been a laughing stock. The team doesn't seem

694
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: to want to do much to get him out of

695
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: that situation. So you know, things got to change here

696
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: for the fan base. Totally throw one more out there, Mark,

697
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: I mean, look here that Ravens. That Ravens Titans game.

698
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: By the way, it's one of three games on my DVR,

699
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 1: and Walker just likes to my son likes to watch

700
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: football sometimes, so I've seen that game now a handful

701
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: of times. It's that it's Bills Patriots Week fifteen, and

702
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl from last year. So seeing these games

703
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: over a decent amount of times, that game was I'm

704
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: just saying it's like an amazing football game that was

705
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: like that Titan's Body rock. There's just there's something about

706
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: a divisional round game like that, and it was it's

707
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: fascinating watch, like they just hit him and the Ravens

708
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: didn't know what had happened, and it was like an

709
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: amazing thing to to rewatch. The imagine going to that

710
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: game as Ravens fan, Oh, you think you got a

711
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: ticket punch to the super Bowl and you're walking home like, wait,

712
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: do we just score twelve points and essentially get our

713
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: butts whipped. That's when they would rather have the old

714
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: mouser made the old mouser. I mean when when Tannehill

715
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: hits uh Calif Raymond on that bomb and it's suddenly

716
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: third team nothing. That was like one of that was

717
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: of the moments of the season. I feel like, hello,

718
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: it's Monday, mower day. Yeah, yeah, I can hear that

719
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: the great plane actually rolls through here. Who Candelario like

720
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: John Candelario, Well it's his first name. He's a good guy.

721
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: I give him a handle of Captain Morgan's for Christmas.

722
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: Every year he's he's he comes and cuts the grass,

723
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: he tends to the yard for us. Nice. What a

724
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: classy gesture, right, And for those who think that's some

725
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: type of sign of me being an upper crust person,

726
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: that's fairly normal. If you rent a house in Los Angeles. Yeah,

727
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: I don't know you guys thinking almost it's very normal. Yeah,

728
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: it's part of rental agreements in in the l A

729
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: area that the the owners have to take care of it. Yeah,

730
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if they. I don't know if I

731
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: would want him swilling Captain Morgan's before cutting the lawn,

732
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: but who knows. I feel like you could do that

733
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: with a little bit of it. It's not that hard.

734
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: Going back to my mail man days, I appreciated anyone

735
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 1: who would leave a tip in the mailbox or give

736
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: you a gift certificate. I never got a handle of

737
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: Captain Morgan's though, Yeah, I gave him a handle Captain

738
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: Morgan's in a half a Rock nice. I was like,

739
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: you gave him cocaine. I was like, it seems to

740
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: fit you. And then we have we have a drink.

741
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: There you go and well, what do you talk about?

742
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: That would be that would be more of digging into

743
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: where you see yourself With them, there's a bit of

744
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: a language barrier, but we we talked about we talk baseball.

745
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: He's a Dodgers fan, Yes, thank you? All right? Um,

746
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: anything else? I don't know. I get this does not

747
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: feel like um trying to remember a segment that was

748
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: interrupted by two or three like super deep a team

749
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: to oh yeah, I was kind I thought, we have

750
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: the m about do you have one? Yeah? Okay, great,

751
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: go ahead. I don't just one. Well, my mind was

752
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: on Mark's list, which was the Saints. Just that, just

753
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: like a team that's been a top five team in

754
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: the NFL three straight years, as heartbreaking playoff losses as

755
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: humanly possible, and as as all in like one last

756
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: year as any roster I can think of for a

757
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: long time. So that's a chip on your shoulder. It's

758
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: also a lot of pressure. But when you look at

759
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: what Mickey Loomis has done with his financial jiu jitsu,

760
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: keeping this team together in the depth chart at every

761
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: position looks awesome. I'm a team and an NFL team,

762
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: but I've always thought that was you know, he's done

763
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: a great job with that. With those dual responsibility, they

764
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: got to be coming into this season feeling like it's

765
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: title or bust, which is dangerous, but that's just where

766
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: they're at. Doesn't it feel like that's been where they've

767
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: been really for the past four years though the entire

768
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: Drew Brees I get it, But this time it's like

769
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: it's his last year. I'm I'm just feeling like this

770
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: is his last year. There's no more guaranteed money. He

771
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: took a job with NBC. Everything's going to be different

772
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: after this year. Well, you wonder if he has another

773
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: great season, if he's gonna want to walk away and

774
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: Tom and Tom Brady over in Tampa is like, no,

775
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take all those counting stats records if you quit.

776
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: These guys care about that stuff. I would now that

777
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 1: you're right, your records are really important until Matthew Stafford

778
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: breaks all of them. Well, I mean, it's it's easy

779
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: to say that all those records will be broken, but

780
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: the lyngevity they matter to Breeze, that's what it's. You know,

781
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: it's a big part of his calling card. Brady. You

782
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: would think it would matter a little less at this point.

783
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: He's got all the rings, makes sense, anybody else got one? Well,

784
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: Mark mentioned the rams. I want to hear that Mark

785
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: on the rams. The rams to me, I mean, it

786
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: wasn't a mark as a chip on his shoulder about

787
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: the Rams. Not not, not with the way they are

788
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: right now, because I suddenly find them um less everybody's

789
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: favorite and more intriguing. They've really transformed the coaching staff

790
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: and the roster in I think Sean McVeigh suddenly is

791
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: in sort of the second phase of his time there

792
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: and and has a big challenge. And I have a

793
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: lot of questions about Jared goff Um not to the

794
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: same degree, what about other guys. But you're you're in

795
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: a crazy division where you're no longer the class of

796
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: that division. Uh, you're in a top heavy NFC. You

797
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: went nine and seven, missed the playoffs, kind of kind

798
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: of like fizzled out at the end there. They were

799
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: eight and five at one point. I think there's a

800
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 1: bit of a chip on the shoulder there. I would

801
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: say that you know you were you were the bell

802
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: of the ball a year ago, not now. What's interesting

803
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: about the two thousand twenty Rams, I think is that

804
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh, just a couple of years ago was the

805
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: next you know, offensive whiz kid genius. And the defense

806
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: looks better than the offense to me. In fact, by

807
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: far the two less best players in the team are

808
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald and j Jalen Ramsey. But they have a

809
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: totally you know, they but they lost some starters and

810
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: they have a totally new defensive coordinator there. You're right,

811
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: they they have a lot to prove. I mean they're rebuild.

812
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: You know, they took over a bad franchise and they

813
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: won a lot of games. Even you know, going nine

814
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: and seven. If that proves to be a down year,

815
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: it isn't the worst down year of her It's just

816
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: they didn't expect that to be the step back year

817
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: at all. Like this makes more sense as a step

818
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: back year. Uh. He does have a lot of I

819
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 1: mean it's I think about it, like driving around the city.

820
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: I mean there was Todd Gurley, Uh, billboards everywhere it's

821
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, you know for subway, there's Jared Goff and

822
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: all this stuff. I don't know if he's getting that

823
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: Banana Republic money again. It's like they you know, they

824
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: they're not the bells of the balls that they were

825
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 1: hoping quite as much going into the new stadium. There's

826
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: been a lot of golf dunking by um, you know

827
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: the football Uh, pundits out there this offseason after what

828
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: was a down year, I wonder the Rams are in

829
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: a lot of trouble if he continues to regress this year.

830
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: He's due thirty one million and twenty seven and a

831
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: half million guaranteed salary in the next two seasons. His

832
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: Captinet number jumps up over thirty million from four. I mean,

833
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: you want to talk about you regrets. There's no way

834
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: they give him that deal again. Now they just have

835
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: to hope it doesn't turn into a huge disaster if

836
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: he kind of becomes a rich man's Mark Sanchez or

837
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: something over the next year. I see, I'm not that concerned.

838
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: I don't think they're that he's paid like a superstar.

839
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: It's not exactly what you want. But I think even

840
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: the way he played last year, men, his bad games

841
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: were just awful. Um, But I don't think he was

842
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: much worse than an average starting quarterback. I don't think

843
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: he was like a huge problem. The problem is, you

844
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: know you have to number one overall better be better

845
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: than the average starting quarterback. Well, I don't think he

846
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: was last year. I think he was about average or

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Speaker 1: a little work my measure, just wasn't he wasn't Mark Sanchez.

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Speaker 1: My my measure, I said rich Man's, um my measure

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Speaker 1: of a disaster is if he goes below average. So

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Speaker 1: if he's not only a guy that's sitting at the

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Speaker 1: table and he's not bringing things from the table. When

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Speaker 1: he starts taking the salt off the table, the pepper,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, some forks and iibes are missing,

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Speaker 1: he's taking things off the table, then it's like, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, what did we do? We just shipwrecked the

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Speaker 1: franchise over this guy, right, And it also would would

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Speaker 1: point fingers at the Rams front office and coaching staff

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Speaker 1: for mis evaluating him, I mean and paying him with

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Speaker 1: the wrong evaluation. I think they got some good young

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Speaker 1: um rookies uh on offense, but yeah, he's got to

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Speaker 1: be better. I remember that Cowboys game, which kind of

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Speaker 1: man Jared Goff was terrible and that well, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if his week fourteen, Week fifteen, but it was

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Speaker 1: kind of the moment where you're like, oh, the Rams

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Speaker 1: are just not gonna do it, and golf was Goff

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Speaker 1: was a huge, huge part of the reason. Why how

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Speaker 1: about the Ravens game. I mean, there were just too

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Speaker 1: many instances of the Rams just not showing up last

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Speaker 1: year and they've got to turn that around. Sometimes it

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Speaker 1: feels like with being a team builder, and less Need

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Speaker 1: is a great example because he's been and there forever

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Speaker 1: now it's like that old Batman thing, die a hero

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Speaker 1: or live long enough to become the villain. He was

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Speaker 1: a guy that seemed like this was not gonna work out,

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Speaker 1: and then he hit on some moves and all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden he was the face of like the the

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Speaker 1: young industrious GM that UM teams love would love to

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Speaker 1: have connected to them. And now things have come back

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Speaker 1: around and he's facing a lot of pressure. I imagine

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Speaker 1: I think McVeigh has more What do you think it

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Speaker 1: is a fair to say McVeigh has a lot more

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Speaker 1: job security than less Need right now? Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: I think I think they both have pretty good job

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Speaker 1: security because we're talking about this like there was a disaster.

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Speaker 1: They you know, they were nine and seven last I mean,

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Speaker 1: they weren't good, but let's see how this season goes.

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Speaker 1: I guess even if they struggled, I think I think

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Speaker 1: this is kind of their team for this is their

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Speaker 1: group for a while. Well, I would I would say

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Speaker 1: that McVeigh if you want to say someone has more.

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Speaker 1: I mean McVeigh is sort of the centerpiece of the

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Speaker 1: organization and a brilliant coach that you're not just gonna

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Speaker 1: let walk because of even one bad year. I wonder

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Speaker 1: if he's a potential guy. If because this is gonna

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Speaker 1: be a tough year for them and McVeigh will be

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Speaker 1: really tested with all their loss is in free agency

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Speaker 1: and their and their salary cap issues, uh and lack

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Speaker 1: of draft picks and all that. If if this year

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Speaker 1: doesn't go well. Um, I wonder if Peyton could end

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Speaker 1: up being or McVeigh could end up being a Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton type down the line where he is the czar

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Speaker 1: of the whole organization, the Andy Reid type role. Right now,

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Speaker 1: that is not the case, but maybe in the future. Mark,

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Speaker 1: you did it? Van orl No, I don't know what's

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Speaker 1: happened to those. Um, it's just the you know NFL

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Speaker 1: dot com last named Sessler and hope it's not the hope.

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Speaker 1: It's the last thing I wrote. Or you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to scroll down and look for it. All Right, there

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Speaker 1: you go. Anything else, anybody else have anything to add today? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: People can. People can if they missed it. By the way,

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Speaker 1: it's on Game Pass our show. I think I never

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Speaker 1: check out the around the un personally verify it. But yeah, Also,

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Speaker 1: the Last Dance is getting better every week. What a

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Speaker 1: show I've actually, I kind of I'm doing a new

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Speaker 1: thing now where I watched the first one on Sunday

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Speaker 1: and then I saved the one second one. It's like

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Speaker 1: cup and then it takes me another reason not to

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Speaker 1: go on Twitter, because God knows it's good to get

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Speaker 1: off Twitter every once in a while. A lot of

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Speaker 1: takes always connected to Jordan's uh in The Last Dance,

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Speaker 1: all right, Dan Hanson signing up for Buie Storm, the Mailman,

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Speaker 1: the Old Boss, Ricky blue Blood, Hollywood over in West

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