1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: This is the Huddle Up Podcast with JP Shadrick, Bucky Brooks, 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: and John Oshan. The Huddle Up Podcast starts right now. 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Huddle Up Podcast. Today is Wednesday, June second. 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick with NFL media analyst Bucky Brooks and 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com senior writer John Osier. The Jaguars have 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: a new special Teams coordinator. We'll get to that coming up. 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: Organized team activities continue for the second week. How about 8 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: some overreactions or just reactions to Week one and the 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: one practice we got to see last week. And we'll 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: hear from a couple of offensive linemen or we have 11 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: heard from them. We will review what they had to 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: say last week. Remember to subscribe to the Official Jaguars 13 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: Podcast Network on Apple, iTunes, Spotify, or wherever you get 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: your podcasts. Give us that five star rating. Bucky, how 15 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: are you, buddy? What's up man? That's good. JP is good. 16 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: We're getting down to the nitty green. We've got a 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: couple of weeks before the mentory minicamp. Get a chance 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: to get out and field and see what everyone is doing. 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: Get to put it in practice. Uh, the Jaguars are 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: actually having a mini camp, while some are not. I 21 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: think it's a good thing that we are on track. 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: I just can't wait to see what looks like this 23 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: is the nitty gritty. John. Apparently we're getting down to 24 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: the nitty gritty. According to Bucky, it's the nitty. I 25 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: don't know that's the gritty yet, I mean, but it's uh, 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: it's interesting. I mean it's We've been on the field 27 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: for what an hour or so during rookie camp. JPU 28 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: and I were out at the end of phase two, 29 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: and then an hour and a half in in phase 30 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: phase three. We have a few observations, and even if 31 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: you were out there every day, they would still be 32 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: sketchy observations because there's not much to observe in the 33 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: offensive line. The defensive line. You can observe past routes, 34 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: past coverage, not much else. But uh, we'll do some observing. 35 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: It's not time yet. You'll queue us up and we'll observe. 36 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: We will observe when we are allowed to observe, yes, 37 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: and we will review those observations coming up in just 38 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: a little But let's get to the big news from Tuesday, though, 39 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: the Jaguars announced that they had hired a special teams 40 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: coordinator Nick Sorenson, replacing Brian Schneider who stepped away last week. Now, 41 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: Sordson was a secondary coach and the Nickels specialists with 42 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: the Seahawks, and he joined the Seahawks back in as 43 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: a special team's assistant, so he was kind of working 44 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: alongside and with Schneider some of those years there. Played 45 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: ten years as a safety in the NFL, four seasons 46 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, from out three to oh six, special teams 47 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: captain here. He was a quarterback going into college at 48 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. Started his career at quarterback, transition to defense, 49 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: came back to quarterback in for four games to back 50 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: up a couple of injured players, and then went back 51 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: to defense full time because Mike Vick came out of 52 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: his red shirt. Hear and guess what he was going 53 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: to be the starting quarterback. That's a long time ago. 54 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: But Swordson's and we talked about this last week. Would 55 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: they hire outside, would they hire within? They got somebody 56 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: familiar with what Schneider was going to do, it felt like, Yeah, 57 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: I actually liked this. I think it's a very very 58 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: smart move because now so many things that you've talked 59 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: about you don't have to change in radically overhaul. Obviously, 60 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: Sorenson word Canahan with Snyder when they were up in Seattle, 61 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: and regarless to whether he had a special team's assistant 62 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: title if he was just dealing with the d VS. 63 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: Everybody is a part of the special teams period when 64 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: you get together, and so he knows that he can 65 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: call it out, he can do it, and I think 66 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: the fact that he played in Jacksonville is an added bonus. 67 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: So I like the hier. I can't wait to see 68 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: what it looks like. It made sense for the reasons 69 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: but he said and then it's uh. It's also the case, 70 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: as we talked about last week, urban Meyer has always 71 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: been very upfront that he takes a big hand in 72 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: special teams. He he has great interest in it. So 73 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: I would guess that he has a good working knowledge 74 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: of what Schneider was bringing and he will be able 75 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: to have conversations help with the transition for Sorenson back 76 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: into it. So I don't think anything is really seamless 77 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: in this, but this is probably as seamless as it 78 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: can be. Happens in June. Uh, I don't think you'll 79 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: see much of an impact on the field from this transition, 80 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: and you know, meaning a negative impact. I don't think 81 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: this will feel clunky at all. I have a question 82 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: for the former player John if I may, that's not 83 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: me that book. You know, we always talk about terminology 84 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: on offense and defense, right, new coordinator on offense, you 85 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: might have a totally new way to talk about it. Defense. 86 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: We know that's the case too. Is that that way 87 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: on special teams? I mean, how much terminology is there 88 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: for the just the few units that are out there. Yeah, 89 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: I mean there's some terminology that I mean. Now, it's 90 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: the natural transition because it would be the same, but 91 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: more from a technique standpoint, when you've been around somebody 92 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: for so long. You talk about Sorenson being around since 93 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: and the amount of years that he's spent with Snyder, 94 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: he can teach the same techniques, the same language, everything 95 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: will be the same. And so ultimately, I think, if 96 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: you're you want to do everything for the players, you 97 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: have the players in my how can I make this 98 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: transition easy for the players. Were the easiest way to 99 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: do it is to bring someone who knows exactly um 100 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: the system that we're putting in and can continue to 101 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: talk about it, uh, much like Snyder was able to 102 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: talk about it for a few months. Well, and Bucky, 103 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: this guy sounds like I was not around Nick when 104 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: he was here, but he sounds like your quintessential path 105 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: to being a special teams coordinator, meaning a very background, 106 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: was on both sides of the ball, played it, made 107 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: his living in the NFL because he valued it. This 108 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: could be the start of him being a special team's 109 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: only guy. He certainly well here, but meaning for his career. Uh. 110 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: And there's his card way before the horse. But lately, 111 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: you head coaches come out of the special team's ranks 112 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: because of the organizational ability and because they have to 113 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: see the big picture of things. And considering his background, 114 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: he certainly has a understanding of all three phases of 115 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: the game. So who knows, maybe real kind of head 116 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: coach some day, Buck, You know, John, is funny that 117 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 1: you bring that part up, because I'm a big believer 118 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: that special teams guys might be the most qualified to 119 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: be the head coach. Uh. They're the only coach that 120 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: worked with all three phases of the game. They also 121 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: worked with coaches from both sides of the ball. They're 122 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: also responsible for managing the game because you think about 123 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: the decision they have to make, Hey, how do we 124 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: kick it? When do we kick it? Do we on side? Here? 125 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: Is this a arrange to kick a field goal? It 126 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: is a great training ground for a head coach. We've 127 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: seen John Harbaugh have success doing it. I want to 128 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: say maybe George Allen, way way way back in the 129 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: day was a guy that was a form a special 130 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: teams coach. That was maybe even Marv Levy. I can't remember. 131 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: I think Marv. And so when you think about just 132 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: the management, the managing of personnels and situations, special teams 133 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: coordinators have to do a lot. And they're also the 134 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: only coach outside of the head coach that talks to 135 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: everybody in the building when it comes to personnel because 136 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: the intermingling of all those teams. They stand in front 137 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: of the team and so they know more than a 138 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: lot of guys on either side of the ball when 139 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: it comes to personnel and how to deploy personnel because 140 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: they have to convince a bunch of guys on offense 141 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: to run down the field on punts and kickoffs and 142 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: go make tackles when that wasn't necessarily what they signed 143 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: up for when they started playing this game long ago, 144 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: and they all said, JP deal with more adversity being 145 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: the first thing that happens when injuries occur is guys 146 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: get pulled off. Special teams have to go to play 147 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: offense and defense. So special teams coaches probably go through 148 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: as much turnover in their units as any coach on 149 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: the staff for that reason. And that could be in 150 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: game and all that. I mean, that's a lot a 151 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: lot of change in week to week in the roster 152 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: churn and everything that happens. Yeah, they never had their 153 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: semi leven going all the way through. No, very very no. 154 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: Actually never, I would say probably never that would happen. 155 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: This is the Huddle Up Podcast J P. 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They 165 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: have about forty players in attendance, and Brady is doing 166 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: his thing. We mentioned last week the Browns are having 167 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: or have had some issues get some players to attend. Well, 168 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: all ninety you're here. That's a good start. But it 169 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: also feels like it's the the overreaction period because they 170 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: are still in shorts and jerseys and helmets. Yes, anything 171 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: Lawrence did or didn't do, especially in the red zone, 172 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: I think was hyped up a lot because it was 173 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: the first time to really see him with the veterans 174 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: a tight end that shall remain nameless, doing anything was news. 175 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: And the defense looking bigger. You know, you can see 176 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: the size and all that, but you not really see 177 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: much physicality interior. Yet. That's just kind of where we are, Bucky. 178 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: It's that part of the offseason where you don't see 179 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: a lot, but what you see you overhype a little bit. 180 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: Hold on, JP. Then Ellison looks fine. I'll say his name, 181 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: Ben Ellison looks fine. The other day he draws a crowd. 182 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: He does draw a crowd. JP, You are right about this, 183 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: And because we're so star for content and conversation stuff 184 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: that we do tend to overrate O T A s 185 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: and workouts during this part of the year. Guys that 186 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: flash and T shorts and shirts and shorts. Uh. Sometimes 187 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't translate when we get into training camp. But 188 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: what you would like to see in these moments, you 189 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: want to see guys get better and better each day. 190 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 1: And as it relates to Trevor Lawrence, you want to 191 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: see Trevor show a comprehension of the playbook. Can you 192 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: look at him when you watch him and understand where 193 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: he's going with the ball and why he's going there? 194 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: Does he appear to have a feel where he's getting 195 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: to a second and third read and the concept? And 196 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: you only know that by being able to watch him, 197 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: watch his head, watch his feet. Are they do they 198 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: appear to be in sync with one another? Because if 199 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: they are, that means he's definitely going through the progressions 200 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: and he's not harry some of the conversations that we're 201 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: hearing about him. The red zone woes, the issues inconsistencies 202 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: is because what Trevor has to learn how to do 203 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: early things happen so much quick in the red zone 204 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: and the pros then in college and the windows are 205 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: tighter and it requires more anticipation as opposed to, oh, 206 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: I see it didn't throw it, and so it's that 207 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: I don't know us. I mean, it's kind of jumping 208 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: out of the plane without a parachute a little bit. 209 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: He has to kind of let it go and trust 210 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: that his receiver is going to make the plays. And 211 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: in college is rare that you're having to make those 212 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: kinds of throws where you're saying, hey, I'm putting it 213 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: out there and my guy's going to go get it. 214 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: YouTube you don't have those windows that are dead tight 215 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: in college, he appeared, and it's hard enough if he's 216 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: making the right reads or not if you're not the 217 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: one making the calls. But it appeared last week JP 218 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: that he was making the right reads. The ball just 219 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: wasn't going where he wanted to go, for exactly the 220 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: reasons that Bucky uh said. It's also important to know JPS. 221 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: You know, we're talking about one day and we didn't 222 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: see the other two days. And we didn't see today, 223 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: or I mean, we didn't see Tuesday. So we're dealing 224 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: with one out of four practices. To me, I would 225 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: have been stunned had he come out of the box 226 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: looking great in the red zone because he's being asked 227 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: to do this. But he said a lot of things 228 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: he never had to do in college. Uh, I didn't 229 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: see anything on Thursday. They made me worried about Trevor 230 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: Lawrence in that regard. I remember when I was covering 231 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: the Colts probably oh six or oh seven, I forget 232 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: what year it was, but it was eight or nine 233 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: years into Peyton's career and they were having an unbelievably 234 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: good year in the red zone offensively, I mean something insane. 235 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: And we were talking to him. The media was about that, 236 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: and he made the point of going back and saying, look, 237 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: red zone is the is the law degree of quarterback 238 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: and the masters degree, if you will. That's what you 239 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: get when you've got everybody on offense and sank And 240 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: at the time, this was a team that had Reggie 241 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: Wayne and his seventh year, yet Dallas Clark and his fourth. 242 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: You had all the guys that made that team great 243 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: have been playing together for a long long time. And 244 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: he said, look, this doesn't come around from a month 245 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: of practice. They say, yeah, this is the high end stuff. 246 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: This is football four oh four compared to football one 247 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: oh one. I don't expect to Jack's be great in 248 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: the red zone this year. First, you know it's gonna 249 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: take a while. This is the last thing a quarterback gets. 250 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: This is not the first thing a quarterback gets. John, 251 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: I I agree. And the red area is so critical, 252 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: so many bodies in a condensed area that you not 253 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: only have to throw with touch, timing and anticipation, you 254 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: have to be deadly accurate when it comes to fend 255 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: the ball in those type spaces, and so timing is 256 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: the key there, but everything everything, And so the chemistry 257 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: that you allude to when you talk about Reggie Wayne 258 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: uh and Marvin Harrison and those guys for him and Byden, 259 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: that is the chemistry and the rapport that Trevor Lawrence 260 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: will have to develop with his receivers on the outside, 261 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: Marvin Jones, DJ Sharks, all those guys have to be 262 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: in sync from the jump, and so it just takes 263 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: reps and we can't rush the process when it comes 264 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: to those guys being on the same page. But it's 265 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: something that we have to keep an eye on. I've 266 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: got an easy answer for all this, by the way, 267 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: the score from the twenty one yard Lyne out. Every 268 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: time I don't even worry about getting in the red zone. Yeah, 269 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: just take a shot, take a shot hybrid, take a 270 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: shot putting it in zone. Let's right, throw it in 271 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: the end zone, and then you score from seventy yards. Okay, 272 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: explosive place, didn't have enough of those will explode into 273 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: the end zone from seventy How about that. This is 274 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: an area to just to give you know, it won't 275 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: solve anything because fans will still be upset when it 276 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: doesn't work in the red zone. This is an area 277 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: that often you will be really good one week and 278 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: then it'll sort of have hiccups and you'll be good 279 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. You don't automatically get it 280 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: fixed right away because what's working against one defense in 281 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: the red zone. It's gonna get studied, gonna be it's 282 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: going to be a curve that sort of has some 283 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: hiccups and downside. It's not a straight upward curve because 284 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: it's hard because eleven people in a thirty yards space 285 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: is more than eleven people in an eighty yard space. 286 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: It's just harder because there's not as many gaps in 287 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: the defense. It's basic math or geometry or calculus. One 288 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: of those because he gains calculus isn't so basic whatever 289 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: whatever it is, man, like that that good old Gator 290 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: education or whatever? Did it? Is? Like whatever? Whatever? Whatever 291 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: kind of math did you had to take early on 292 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: in college. Yeah, well we'll call it that, John, Did 293 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: you just do the Gators shop? Was that what I did? Damn? Right? 294 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: I did? Right? Man? Wow? Man, I didn't. I didn't 295 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: get turned down by Chapel Hill because I didn't the fly, 296 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: but I would end the Huddle Up podcast rolls along. 297 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: Another idea from O. T. A s last week that 298 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: we got was how big the defense is. And it's 299 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: something we talked about before. Right, you know, on paper, 300 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna walk off the bus and they're gonna look 301 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: the part. They're gonna be big, massive human beings. In 302 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: a lot of these places, especially on the defensive line, 303 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: you have tall corners now walking all across the defense. 304 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: It feels like, so you know, you can't. I don't 305 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: right now, John, You're not gonna be able to tell 306 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: a lot on the interior of how they're gonna play 307 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: against the run and all that stuff. But okay, there's stoutter. 308 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: It feels like start with that and then the corners 309 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: have the height and the length to to play. That's 310 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: what they wanted. That was the whole idea of this thing. 311 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: I think you watch these things this time of year 312 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: because you're out there and you want to be able 313 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: to say something. I watched to fail. I watched Malcolm Brown. 314 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: They look really quick when they're rushing against one of 315 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: those big tackling dummies or or what do we call 316 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: it that you know, the blue thing as I call it. Uh, So, 317 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: they certainly look quick. Uh they look like they can 318 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: move for their weight. Roy Robinson Harrison, I mean Roy 319 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: Robinson Harrison looks very big. They look like they will 320 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: be stouter. They have it seems more front and numbers 321 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: at those spots. Last year because of COVID when Al 322 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,959 Speaker 1: Woods and uh Rodney Gunter or not because uh COVID, 323 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: they lost those guys all of a sudden, they were 324 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: perilously thin. They don't seem perilessly thin right now. So 325 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: that was a thing to see that you certainly noticed. 326 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: They will look better walking into the game they did 327 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: last year up front and uh on some of the 328 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: all that matters because you got to be stout to 329 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: stop the run. So I was encouraged by that, and 330 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: I was. I was always encouraged. I was also encouraged. 331 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: Jpeople what you saw, they look quicker on the front seven. Defensively, 332 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: they look more athletic. They look like they have better 333 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: athletes on the front seven than they did this time 334 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: a year ago. So that's certainly not a bad thing. 335 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: They wanted to get that done in the off season. 336 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: It feels like they did that. Yeah, John, I think 337 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: some some basic observations when you think about Urban and 338 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: you think about the success that he had the collegiate level, 339 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: particularly at Florida and then at the Hire State. Bigger, faster, 340 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: stronger was the calling card on defense. Big guys up front, 341 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: particularly at defensive tackle, to clog up the middle, make 342 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: the ball run to the sideline where you got the 343 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: speed to chase it down. Explosive pass rushers, first step 344 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: quickness so they can get and harassed. The quarterback quicken 345 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: the clock, and the quarterback said, you want these long, 346 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: lengthy cornerbacks that can walk up, go nose the nose, 347 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: and stymy wide receivers in their release. I just think 348 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: he's following the same blueprint that has been very successful 349 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: for him at every level. Um, don't expect him to 350 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: rill off the number of wins that he most recent 351 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: was able to ril off in terms of urban wire. 352 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: But I think this defense is going to be a 353 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: fast defense that can make up for some of the 354 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 1: mistakes that may happen with execution. That is why he's 355 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: played such a premium on size, speed and athleticism and distract. 356 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: I got a question JP for the Scout and I've 357 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: I've read about the Ravens defense. Uh, if you only 358 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: comparison we have because you assume that it's going to 359 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: have a lot of traits of the Ravens defense with 360 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: Joe Cole, But just philosophically, I tell the listeners the 361 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: key to making that work? Why is it effective? Is 362 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: it all because you don't want because you don't know 363 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: what Martin Dale is gonna call or or is Philosophically 364 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: there's something there that you like about that. But philosophic 365 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: gonna be very aggressive. They can put pressure on you, 366 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: and that pressure is really directed at the quarterback. And 367 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: some of it is real pressure where they're bringing five 368 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: and six men um from various angles, and some of 369 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: it is what we call simulated pressure where you see 370 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: six or seven guys middling around the line of scrimmage, 371 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: but at the end of the play only four guys 372 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: have rushed. And what you're doing is you're playing basically 373 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: a Jedi mind trick on the quarterback. Down after down 374 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: after down. Can you guess right, give the ball out 375 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: in time and get it to the right man while 376 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: we're heating you up and bringing pressure from all over 377 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,479 Speaker 1: the place. To do it, you need size because you've 378 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: got to be able to win on early downs to 379 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: stop to run. You need speed because you want to 380 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: be able to use your speed to impact the pocket 381 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: and really get after the passer. And then finally, you 382 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: need guys with high football like us, because if they're 383 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: as multiple as the Ravens are, man you have to 384 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: be able to study process and be able to put 385 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: it into action really quickly. And so you've got guys 386 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: blitzing from all over the place. You've got every d 387 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: D in the Ravens blitz everybody. And so you have 388 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: to have and I think we talked about it, you 389 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: have to have some versatility on the second level, second 390 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: and third level guys that were corners that are their safeties, 391 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: Guys that are safeties that maybe can drop down and 392 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: play linebacker. You need to have a collection of what 393 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: I call athletes that you can just plug into certain 394 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: places and not necessarily did up them a position, but 395 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: say that anyone who plays in this spot has to 396 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: be able to run this s blitz. They covered this 397 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: tight end, and so I just wonder can they keep 398 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: it simple enough for young guys to jump in that system? 399 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: That would be the big thing. Can cul and take 400 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: all of this stuff that he knows and make it 401 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: very easy to digest for the young players so they 402 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: can play fast and be effective. He's a guy like 403 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell, JB can play at all. Sure, he's done it. 404 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: They talked about him out. You know, he played outside. 405 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: They talked about it inside. But as a rookie, can 406 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: you handle it all? I guess that's what we'll find out. 407 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: It's a lot. That's a lot to deal with for sure. 408 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: Another thing we might not get a real good look 409 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: at this time of year. This will probably come closer 410 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: to training camp, preseason games and all that is the 411 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: versatility that you mentioned Bucky in the back end of 412 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: the defense, but it's certainly key on the offensive side 413 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: of the ball, and this time of year. You know, 414 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: we didn't see an eleven on eleven work the other day, 415 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 1: to be quite honest with you, first of all, and 416 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: if we did, the rules are that you can't say 417 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: personnel formations and all, who's working where and all this stuff. 418 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: But versatility for skill players on offense is obviously going 419 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: to be key here, moving guys around to find those 420 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: favorable matchups. Bucky Chanlt one of those guys we've seen 421 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: in the past year do it. That's the idea for E. 422 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: T N. Of course, Colin Johnson, even with his height 423 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: advantage outside and chart with that speed and playmaking ability. 424 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: Finding out where those guys match up against the defense. 425 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're quite there yet, but it's 426 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: important for those guys to have that versatility. Yeah, it 427 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: is important for everyone to be versatile in the back end. 428 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: I think it really is most important for two guys 429 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: because these are the two guys that I think will 430 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: be featured prominently in the h back role that we've 431 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: talked about previously. That went to Percy Harvin Um. The 432 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: viscus should not and the viscus should not if you 433 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: go back and watch him Colorado, that's what he's always done. 434 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: He's probably one of the best own read quarterback that 435 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: you will find coming out. When he came out explosive, dynamic, 436 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: terrific with the ball in his hands doing a bunch 437 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: of wildcat direct snaps at Colorado. He he's a difference maker. 438 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: And so when you think about his ability to line 439 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: up out, why to take this maybe the fly sweep 440 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: to maybe come in and do some wildcast stuff as 441 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: a dimension to the offense. And its En. You have 442 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: another guy who potentially you put on the field with 443 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: James Robinson. You have him working in the slot. Maybe 444 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: he's running some past and maybe he's doing a bunch 445 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: of different fly sweeps and screens. But it's another way 446 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: to get a dangerous playmaker in space. Irban Mayer's hell 447 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: bent on putting a bunch of prominent athletes and positions 448 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: where they can go make big plays. Et En and 449 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: Labiscoa their versatility could allow them to be big playmakers 450 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,479 Speaker 1: this year. It will be something to watch moving ahead 451 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: as the season progresses. 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Now we mentioned all Elite wrestling, So I'm 460 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: gonna take you back to last week, last Thursday, when 461 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: we had the availability to go watch practice, and then 462 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: right after practice, I ended up talking with Brandon Lender 463 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: right before he went on the podium to speak with 464 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: the media. Right so I'm sitting there in the in 465 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: the hallway chatting with Lender, and within a five minute window, 466 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: here's all everything that happened during this interview. The team's 467 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: walking off the field, so Tebow walks by and all 468 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: these you know, all the players come by. Okay, that's 469 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: one thing Urban were I asked about Urban Meyer to Lender, 470 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: and guess what. Urban Meyer happens to walk up at 471 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: the same time, and like stops the interview and says, 472 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: have a good weekend. And they talked for a second. Okay, great. 473 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: Two minutes later, Chris Jericho, the wrestler walks by in 474 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: full regalia. He's getting ready to do something. They're shooting 475 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: for the pay per view and all that, and then 476 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: it ends up over the weekend. I don't know if Bucky, 477 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: if you saw this, John, I'm sure you did the 478 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: video clip online of Urban Meyer in a skit during 479 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: the pay per view, Charlie Strong getting after it, helping 480 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: Jericho out. I guess with you know some some weapons, 481 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 1: like through a couple of footballs at and help Jericho 482 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: hit this guy, and then Urban gave him a laptop 483 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: to sacrifice. I like it. How do you get a 484 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: chance to see the clip? Charlie Strong and Coach Meyer, 485 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: they being a part of it, It is great. I'm 486 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: trying to think, uh, way way back. I remember when 487 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,479 Speaker 1: a wrestling company brought their crew through, and I remember 488 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: guys being able to go and have a chance to 489 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: see it and the energy in the building and going 490 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: back and talking about those experiences or whatever. So I 491 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: think it's really cool to Urban and Charlie Strong jump 492 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: right in. You're part of it. Just only creates more 493 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: energy and optimism and enthusiasm. Around the program. Yeah, it's fun, 494 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: and why not? I mean it's it's uh sometimes fans 495 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: see this sort of thing and and they try to 496 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: create something to criticize about it. And I had somebody, 497 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: you know, say, well, you said all along that they 498 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to do hard knocks, and then they do 499 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: this side show. Why is this any different? It's like, 500 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: look a the difference between doing hard knocks, which is 501 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: having film cameras in your offices on a daily basis 502 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: and trying to get inside your mind as you're cutting 503 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: the team and taking however long this took, which I'm 504 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: you know, my guess is this took about as long 505 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: as we saw. It's a completely different thing. There's nothing 506 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: wrong with having a good time during May after after practice. 507 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: This was kind of cool and you know, uh, the 508 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: a w's here, Why not do it? It's fine? Why 509 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: whoa JP? Yes? Are you sure we got jail on? 510 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: Is this? Do we have somebody else? Because the guy 511 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: who is the king of Get up my lawn, the 512 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 1: old man, I can't believe I just heard him say 513 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: it's okay to have a little fun during this time 514 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: of Yearce Lombardi say, John, Yeah, like Vince Lombardi didn't 515 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: grow up in Jacksonville, Florida watching Gordon's Solely on the weekend. 516 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: That's that's what's up. And you guys don't haven't know 517 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: who Gordon Solely is, but he was the old announcer 518 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: for for wrestling. I grew up begging my dad to 519 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: take me down to wrestling on Saturdays at the college. 520 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: Saum never did. Yeah, I never saw it live, but 521 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: always had a little bit of soft spart in my 522 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: heart for my peers. Are yeah, well, I mean again, 523 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: good Dadamn, it's time to you know, to do something 524 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: like this. This isn't a big deal, much like the 525 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: one who shall not be named is not that big 526 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: good is not a deal to have him on the team. 527 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: And may I didn't know a laptop couldn't make that 528 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: much noise when it hits somebody, I guess, but it 529 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: did the other night. This is the Huddle Up Podcast 530 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: j P. Shadrick, Bucky Brooks and John Osier, and we 531 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: mentioned Brandon Linder. He's one of a couple of offensive 532 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: lineman that we had a chance to catch up with 533 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: this week. You know, Linda, it was explaining the mentality 534 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: of why all these veterans and everybody's here, and and 535 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: the culture they're trying to build and all that. We've 536 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: heard that word a lot culture over the last week. 537 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: Just get ready, we're gonna hear more and more moving ahead, John, 538 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: you caught up with Jowan Taylor on the right side 539 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: of the line for the was on podcast this week, 540 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: And you know when for Lender, you know, during the 541 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: season when when things get insulated, he kinda is not 542 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: He's not as open. You know, this is the time 543 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: of year to get Brandon Lender because he will he'll 544 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: give you what he can interview, right, it was that fair. 545 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: He's the master of note. Okay, yeah, all right, I 546 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: was trying to be n Okay. I like Brandon. I 547 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: ain't gonna bother me. I like Brandon. He has people 548 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: like to talk during the season and that's fine. Yeah, 549 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: this is the time of year to get him, though. 550 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: But Jowan Taylor, you know, and and and Juwan is 551 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: one of those guys that this is year three for 552 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: him coming up, and you had a chance to catch 553 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: up with him on the podcast this week, and he's 554 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: always an interesting conversation, John, I like him, Yeah, he is. 555 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: And he's always very open. He's the kind of guy 556 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: I used to cover a guy back in Florida named 557 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: Ellis Johnson back in the day, has been not twenty 558 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: five years is and he was he liked a couple 559 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: of things. He liked to go fishing, and he'd like 560 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: to play football. And uh, that's sort of what Joan is. 561 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: I mean. And that's ask him what he had done 562 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: in the offseason, and you know, pretty much, he likes 563 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: to fish and he went and worked out. He worked 564 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: out an offensive line academy and in Dallas. I personally 565 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: think Jowan Taylor is it's still going to be very 566 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: very good. He got a lot of criticism last year. 567 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: Is a lot of the offensive lineman got out of 568 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: criticism last year. I kind of have a feeling that 569 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: he's still gonna wind up being a core player. He's 570 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: gonna be a guy that they have a decision on 571 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: after this season, because he'll be going into his fourth 572 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: year next season. But people who have never really listened 573 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: to john a whole lot, I'd recommend listening to the 574 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: podcast because he's he's a good kid. Uh doesn't mind 575 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: talking about what he hasn't done so far, what he 576 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: still needs to do. He's very open and honest. My 577 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: favorite part of the podcast was at the end, I 578 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: asked him my Ozone five. I call it the five questions. 579 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: Asked Hi about his favorite drummer is best drum roll? 580 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: He's a big drummer, asaid, what kind of music do 581 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: you like that people would be surprised with. He's a 582 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: big country music fan, a very well rounded, very good 583 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: guy from down the road and Coco and I think 584 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: he likes playing in Jacksonville. Man, I like that. I 585 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: like here that John because I'm gonna go back and um. 586 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: We briefly mentioned Lender and the things that came out 587 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: of this conversation. I think the one thing that we 588 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: talked about it uh maybe last week we talked about 589 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: how Jacksonville can be a destination spot for players too, 590 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: not only lived during the season, but to be a 591 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: year round place where you can train and ultimately get better. 592 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: We're seeing that. But I think that the common theme 593 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: that came out when I heard Lenda and some of 594 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: the other players talk about is up in the anti 595 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: sports performance, the nutrition, the food, the facilities, the first 596 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: class demands or the first class offerings that Jacksonville has 597 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: kind of rolled up for the players and in return 598 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: my respects giving you everything, Now I need you to 599 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: give us everything in return. And so that that give 600 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: and take relationship between players and coach, it appears that 601 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: they're already putting the foundation in place for that to 602 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: be a relationship that really has the two things that 603 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: are necessary to being a championship team, trust and communication. 604 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: And so I feel like there's a really complete buy in. 605 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: And sometimes when you have a college coach like Urban's background, 606 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: you just don't know if guys are going to heed 607 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: those messages that you're going on. You just never know 608 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: until you know so far they are they are. Indeed, 609 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot of heating going on in town, a 610 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: lot of that happening right now. It is interesting, though, 611 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: you know, hearing Lender discussed everybody back on the offensive line, 612 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: All five starters are back the offensive line. Coaches back 613 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: the continuity of that because John, I mean there's times 614 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: last year they were criticized a lot on the offensive line. 615 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: Lender was heard a lot last year. You're right, they've 616 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: had guys. The Taylor was struggle a little bit at times. 617 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: You know, everybody's all over Norwell and then Cam Robinson 618 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: is doing his thing. Like there was a lot of 619 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: just criticism of that group, but everybody's back and and 620 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: those guys are are glad that the continuity is there. 621 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: It feels like John, you gotta look at with that. 622 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: First of all, when you have inconsistency a quarterback behind you, 623 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: that makes it tough one the offensive line. And you know, 624 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: we've all talked about it. The pocket presence at the 625 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: quarterback position has not been great, and that hurts the 626 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: offensive line. It is also exceedingly difficult when you are 627 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: not stopping to run. Defensively, when things are not working great, 628 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: it is very hard to pass block when you were 629 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: trailing by Tanner more points for three quarters of every game, 630 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: which is what's what the reality of this was. So 631 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: that contributes to the offensive line. When defenses in this 632 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: league know that you have to pass block all the time, 633 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: you are not going to pass blocked very well. I 634 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: don't care what level of defense you I mean, I 635 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: don't care what level offensive line you are. No offensive 636 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: line can sustain that amount of pressure throughout an entire game. 637 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: I thought what you saw from the offensive line in 638 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 1: terms of run blocking for a rookie, undrafted running back 639 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: last year. They look like a pretty good run blocking 640 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: team to me when they were allowed to do it. 641 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: It's a fascinating group because they have been together for 642 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: two years. They're going into their third consecutive year all 643 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: starting together. I don't know that I've ever covered in 644 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: seven years covering the league an offensive line that has 645 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: brought all three, all five starters back for a third year. 646 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: That's exceedingly rare in an era of high turnover. If 647 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: they don't get it done this year, if they're not 648 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,959 Speaker 1: good as a group, they'll never have a better chance 649 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: to have done it. I think they will, because I 650 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: think this line is better than people think. John. When 651 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: you talk about Taylor, I think it's important to lump 652 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: him together with Cam Rominson because you him up to big, 653 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: physical early draft. Early draft. Yeah, so it's in the 654 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: Jaguar's best interest for those guys to play well so 655 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: you can reward them with big contracts. And now that 656 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: everything goes back to the era of the mid nineties, 657 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: But when you think about when coach Coffin and this 658 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 1: team was built and built successfully for about a five 659 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: year run leon Seriously, Tony Boselli on the edge is 660 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: able to control the game, not only as pass protectors, 661 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: but when it was gotta have a time and you 662 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 1: need to run it. Oh, Fred t or whoever was 663 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: playing tailback, knew that they could run the football. And 664 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: there's a part of me that believes part of the 665 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: maturation and development process when it comes to Trevor Lawrence 666 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: will be offset due to the ability to run the 667 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: football and to lean into the running game until he 668 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: is ready to go from me and the game manager 669 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: to the playmaker. This offensive line, I would say they 670 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: have to wear the big some brewer going into the season. 671 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: They need to play at an A plus level for 672 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: this team to have a chance of being a very 673 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: competitive unit, because if they can run it and control 674 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, letould give them a chance to 675 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: be in most games. The one final thing on Joan 676 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 1: Taylor t the only guy on the roster to start 677 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: the every game the last two seasons. And guess what 678 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: when you're six and ten and one in fifteen? Uh 679 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: not everybody plays every game? Yeah, thirty two thirty two 680 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: straight games this kids played. I don't think he missed 681 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 1: a snap his first year. I don't know if he 682 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: got every snap in last year or not. But I mean, 683 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: this kid is a tough kid. He's taking some heat, 684 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 1: he's taking some criticism. But I was writing before last 685 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: season that I thought he, d J. Chark, and Josh 686 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: Allen were the core of the team moving forward, and 687 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: there's more guys dad to that. I still think ideally 688 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: you would have those three guys as core guys moving 689 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: for or They're good guys. They are guys that you 690 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: want in the community. They are the guys you want around. 691 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 1: They feel like the right kind of guys to build 692 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: around to me, and I still think John Taylor might 693 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 1: be one of those guys. This is the Huddle Up 694 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: Podcast and coming up later this week, we'll be back 695 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: on the practice field for the open media time Thursday, John, 696 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: you and I will be there. Bucky is not quite 697 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 1: coming to Jacksonville yet, but you're I don't want to 698 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: let the cat out of the bag too soon, but 699 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: you let it out. Let the cat out. The cat 700 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: is you're coming to Jacksonville. When I am coming to Jacksonville, 701 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 1: I'm coming from mini camp. I'm excited to see what 702 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: it looks like on the field, so I get a 703 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: chance to be right there. Uh see. Coach Marc all 704 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: the players to begin to put for the pieces of 705 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: the polls together so we can speculate and talk and 706 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: maybe I'll be able to share a couple of opinions 707 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 1: with j O. I wish you made Let mean definitely 708 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,399 Speaker 1: asked that week Bucky's red carpet, because you know they'll 709 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,720 Speaker 1: have it out for I mean, you talking about royalty 710 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,439 Speaker 1: rolling in security will be like, hey, Mr Oshan, stand 711 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: over here, Bucky's walking again from the from the gated parking. 712 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: Can't wait to welcome. Hey Buck, what's going on? Uh, 713 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: you can help you, I'll get one of that, hopefully 714 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 1: I can help security ron. Just to make sure that 715 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: my path is easy. My path is easy, unobstructed to 716 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: the field, you know, and that's just in the building. 717 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: Just wait until we're out about now. Yeah, here we go, man, 718 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: this should be It should be a lot of fun. 719 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time that I've actually been 720 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 1: in the building. I told you is when the practice 721 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 1: fields were somewhere else. I can't remember who the head 722 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: coach was that I came down there maybe four or 723 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: five years ago to do a network deal. But now 724 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,919 Speaker 1: I'm excited, man, Like, Look, I'll make sure I'll read 725 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: the book. I know this though, four to six A 726 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: to B. I'm gonna be flying wherever I'm going going fast. 727 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm going in a hurry. So plus two above the 728 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: line mentality never minus three. Y. Yeah, I try to 729 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: get a little less and set a low barre. Yeah, 730 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: I know, I know whatever I'm doing. If I'm in 731 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: the cafeteria, I'm going fast. I'm going on a straight 732 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: line and I'm going there. And I guess if I'm 733 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: gonna go to the drink machine, I need to go 734 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: two steps beyond the drink machine to get the drink 735 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: that I want. And I know it's something. I know 736 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,399 Speaker 1: it's it's plus two, so I gotta get my money right. Yeah, 737 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: I gotta give my mind right. I'll help you with that. 738 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: We'll look forward to that coming up in a couple 739 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: of weeks. Well done today, guys. Good to talk to 740 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: you as always. Bucky will catch you next week, oh 741 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: for sure. Man should be a lot of fun and 742 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 1: Johnny will catch you and probably just a few minutes 743 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: in the hallway because there for John Hosier and Bucky Brooks. 744 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: I'm J. P. Shadrick. 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