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Speaker 1: Hey is Jason Brown from The Fred Show. And I

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Speaker 1: my stomach is doing flip flaps right now. With the

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Speaker 1: guests that I'm talking to today, I want to welcome

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Speaker 1: David Archiletta.

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Speaker 2: How are you, Jason. I'm doing so well.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I am so good.

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Speaker 1: I have been looking forward to talking to you for

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Speaker 1: so many reasons. Obviously, we're gonna go talk about my

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Speaker 1: obsession with you. However, your song Crush is the song

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Speaker 1: that we blast in the studio when we need like

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Speaker 1: a serotonin boost. Like I'm not even joking, We're not

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Speaker 1: even Sometimes it's on the radio, sometimes it's off the radio.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes we do a full sing along with all the cities.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just us. So thank you, thank you, thank

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Speaker 1: you for making that art, in all your art, and

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Speaker 1: talking to me today. I cannot be more.

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Speaker 2: Excited to talk to you, Jason. Well, thank you for

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Speaker 2: the love. Yes, O god, it's a serotonin boost for you.

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Speaker 3: It is, it is.

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Speaker 1: And I want to get into everything about your memoir

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Speaker 1: that's coming out right devout And when this comes out,

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Speaker 1: the book will already be out. So congratulations, your book

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Speaker 1: is out. But I gotta start a little bit back

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Speaker 1: and I gotta ask about American Idol, which I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you're sick of talking about, but I just have one question,

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Speaker 1: And if you can go back to that time, do

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Speaker 1: you remember the first time when you were like whoa,

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Speaker 1: this is not a joke like this, this is like serious,

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Speaker 1: like the people are crazy, fans are crazy.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember when it finally hit you like whoa,

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Speaker 3: like that whoa moment?

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I don't think it really hit me until

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Speaker 2: maybe it was like Dolly Parton week that it hit me,

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Speaker 2: which was top nine for my season. So I'd been

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Speaker 2: on for a few weeks already at that time, like

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Speaker 2: a month or maybe a month and a half already,

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Speaker 2: And I think just being there with someone who is

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Speaker 2: as iconic as Dolly, yes, singing songs with her and

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Speaker 2: like seeing I think it's hard to for me to

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Speaker 2: process moments when it's on a mass scale, like hundreds

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Speaker 2: can't process so much information. So being one on one

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Speaker 2: with Dolly, knowing the impact she had on music, singing

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Speaker 2: her song, her giving me feedback and telling me that

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Speaker 2: my performance of her song impacted her that like she

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Speaker 2: was like, oh my gosh, She's like, I'm trying not

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Speaker 2: to get these fake eyelashes from falling from cry and

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Speaker 2: I was just like and that's when I realized, wow,

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Speaker 2: like this is has truly become something. Yeah, And I

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Speaker 2: was like, what did I do to get here?

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Speaker 3: Were happening when you're so young?

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Speaker 1: Like on top of it just being so chaotic, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure it's probably like just a whirlwind.

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Speaker 2: It was. It was really I feel like I'm just

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Speaker 2: now finally processing what happened, like seventeen eighteen years later,

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Speaker 2: because it was it was just so much it didn't stop.

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Speaker 2: My brain doesn't move that fast, and really reading this book,

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Speaker 2: like I'm sorry writing my book, I had to go

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Speaker 2: episodes because I like, you kind of you block out

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Speaker 2: I think it's just because it's so much to like

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Speaker 2: stimulation and information and emotions that you just to survive

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Speaker 2: and you just shut it all out and shut it

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Speaker 2: all off. And but now I look back and I'm like, wow,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it did, Like it was huge, and I

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Speaker 1: you that you know doesn't happen, but you know, I

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Speaker 1: where it's like I'm always looking like okay, and it's

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Speaker 1: something I'm actually working on, Hello therapy, but like trying

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm always trying to be like, okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe that's something and that's unmaturing, right, Like, let's live

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Speaker 1: your accomplishments, because like you've done so much even since then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean look at Yeah, I'm just I can't

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Speaker 2: and I, like you said, you just kind of take

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Speaker 2: times I feel like I'm not like, I feel inferior

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Speaker 2: a lot of times to the moment I'm given. But

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Speaker 2: how do I move forward? And so sometimes you're just like,

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Speaker 2: reach out to this person, and even if I face rejection,

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Speaker 2: I yeah, I won't know unless I ask. And a

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Speaker 2: lot of times I've learned, I'm like, I feel so

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Speaker 2: embarrassed to ask and they're probably going to think I'm

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Speaker 2: of times you get good results.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's you know, it's like just you.

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Speaker 2: Know, be respectful, be a likable person. But yeah, but

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Speaker 2: it's sometimes it is embarrassing. I'm like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: But it's like, you know.

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Speaker 1: What, whatever, it's right? What is like that you missed

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the shots you don't take right? Like, oh,

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Speaker 1: well shoot your shot. You never know what's gonna happen. Well,

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Speaker 1: you've done so much. I mean, you've let out so

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Speaker 1: coming out and you're kind of I feel like you're

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Speaker 1: just so authentic, and you're and you're getting to be

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Speaker 1: Like what does it feel like now to sort of

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Speaker 1: I'm sure is in the book, but it's coming full circle.

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Speaker 3: Like how does that feel now?

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Speaker 2: It? Well, I feel like I can own up who

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Speaker 2: I like to who I am. I feel comfortable in

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Speaker 2: I always felt like I wasn't supposed to feel like

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Speaker 2: don't want to get cocky, and also just I was

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Speaker 2: and I mean, I'll have like the best body out there,

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Speaker 2: but I still feel like I've worked hard for this shit.

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Speaker 3: You know, Sorry, Sorry, I worked hard for this. Say

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Speaker 3: what you were, David, aren't letta you seven years?

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Speaker 2: If you are, you can as long as you I remember,

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Speaker 2: you can edit it out, so okay. But I it's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, I've worked hard, Like why am I going

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Speaker 2: So I'm I'm like, you know, maybe I'm a late bloomer,

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Speaker 2: but oh, I'm so glad that I'm a late bloomer.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad that I'm now getting to experience this, and

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Speaker 2: it didn't matter what time of my life. What matters

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Speaker 3: You're doing it.

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Speaker 1: You're hitting a choreo like people are losing their minds,

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Speaker 1: like I'm I'm sorry, this is just me guessing you

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Speaker 1: up for fifteen minutes, but like it's it's super real, okay,

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Speaker 1: Like you are killing it. You are doing just your everything.

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Speaker 1: You're everything, David. I don't know what you want me

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Speaker 2: And I will pay you later. Thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for for the hype Now I know who to hire

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Speaker 2: for a hype man.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I believe I'm available. So why the book now?

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Speaker 1: And what was sort of the reason for Devout being

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Speaker 2: Why now? I've been thinking about it for a few years,

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Speaker 2: And I was read I was reached out by well

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Speaker 2: And I was like, you know, I have, Like it

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Speaker 2: you know, yeah, coming out and also just the struggle

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Speaker 2: it was to not just come out as like like

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Speaker 3: And so it's a lot of change all at once,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's just so life. I talk about

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Speaker 2: life transitions because I went from high school to being

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Speaker 2: like there's like a lot of things there. I talk

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Speaker 2: about struggles of family, family dynamics and family trauma, and

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Speaker 2: domineering and be controlling and manipulative, yet you're suppose you've

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Speaker 2: It's like, how do you find the happy medium of

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Speaker 2: for the way they're they're treating you and acting and

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Speaker 2: gave a lot of grace to the people I talk about,

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Speaker 2: like my dad for example, and uh he you know

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Speaker 1: So that's huge. That's huge that you're sharing that. Devout

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Speaker 3: That's so fun. Okay, do you want to know mine?

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Speaker 1: we're recording this, David Argeletta Devout is the album. You're

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, now too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're like raw, they're with the audiobook right now.

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Speaker 2: That was what the book publisher requested. And then in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, awesome, you're keeping the fans fed, David. I

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Speaker 1: I hope you do another tour. We need you to

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Speaker 1: come back to Chicago please, but develop it, yes please.

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Speaker 1: We need you to be at another Fast, either Pride

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Speaker 3: Those are so fun. Devout is the book?

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Speaker 1: Uh there's new music coming along with that book tour,

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Speaker 1: David Archiletta dot com. David, this was a dream come true.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so so so much for talking to me.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so good to talk to you, Jason.

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