1 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to episode forty nine of the 2 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: Emmer Territory podcast. I am your host, Brad Rowland, coming 3 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: to you on a Sunday here in July, and things 4 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: have gone quite wrong for the Atlanta Braves over the weekend. 5 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: I am joined on this podcast and a podcast in 6 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: which we throw out the rundown by Scott Coleman. Scott, 7 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: are you feeling any better than I am right now? 8 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: Hey, Brad, I'm doing okay. As of twenty four hours ago, 9 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: this podcast, in our normal Sunday night slot, as we 10 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: have done for years, was feeling very much like it 11 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: would be pretty business as usual and run of the mill, 12 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: talk about a couple of games against the Cardinals, look 13 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: ahead to seven games this week, hit on some news 14 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: and notes and call it a show. And I think, 15 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: as listeners know, very quickly things have gone south, with 16 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: two very key injuries and certainly a lot of things 17 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: to talk about that we maybe were not expecting even 18 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: as of last night. 19 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: That's absolutely the case, and a few house comfy notes 20 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: here at the top of the podcast. Number one, I 21 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: apologize for my audio. Hopefully it is listenable. I won't 22 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: reveal all details of why I am recording where I am, 23 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: but I'm currently recording in a not ideal location just 24 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: because of challenges of where I am. I'm traveling for 25 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: work and it's a tough one, but we wanted. We 26 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: are dedicated to giving you the podcast content that you 27 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: will come to expect on a Sunday evening. Also, we 28 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: are part of follow territory where you should be checking 29 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: out all of these shows across the network on YouTube, 30 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: on Apple, Spotify, et cetera, including this show. Please subscribe 31 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: to our podcast anywhere you might find podcasts. If we 32 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: just find us for the first time, welcome number one, 33 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: and also please stick around and your friends about the 34 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: show and we'll get into later on probably briefly. Always 35 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: compared it to usual the performances of the weekend for 36 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: the Braves from the game perspective and how they performed, 37 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: and it was not great necessarily. 38 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 3: But you teased it. I teased it. 39 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: The headliner by a lot is these two injuries that 40 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: the Brave suffered over the weekend. And it seems to me, Scott, 41 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: you can correct me if you don't agree, like kind 42 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: of a rock bottom moment. Hopefully, I guess that's kind 43 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: of a good spin on things that maybe it won't 44 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: get worse from here, but this has been a season 45 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: that has been marred by injuries. And while the Braves 46 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: have been respectable this year in a way that doesn't 47 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: always feel the way that way necessarily, they've done it 48 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: while overcoming some real issues roster wise, and that only 49 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: gets magnified now without Max Freed for a little while 50 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: TVD on how long because we'll get into a second 51 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: and also Ozzie Alby's for two months or so, and yes, 52 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: Ozzie's not been playing that well this year necessarily, but 53 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: still just two more guys and especially Free just after 54 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: the that the British just. 55 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: Could not afford. Basically is we're right. 56 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: No, Yeah, it feels like the Braves are snake bitten 57 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: this season where the team truly cannot go more than 58 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: maybe two weeks without losing a very key player to 59 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: this roster and just thinking about the season as a whole. 60 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: Opening Day, they lose Sean Murphy to the oblique and 61 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: he misses two months. They don't have Spencer Strider, they 62 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: don't have wrong Dacunya Junior. Austin Riley hurt his side 63 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: and ended up missing effectively a month by the time 64 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: he found himself. They are still without Michael Harris, who 65 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: is yet to begin a rehab assignment. Now they lose 66 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: Max Freed, Now they lose Ozzie Alby's. There have been 67 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: a handful of other injuries scattered in throughout the year 68 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: as well. It just seems like this team cannot win 69 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: when it comes to injuries, and their depth is really 70 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: going to get pushed over the next month at minimum, 71 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: at least that's what we expect Max to miss, and 72 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: we know that Ozzie is going to miss two months. 73 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: The Braves just I mean, it's it is a miracle, 74 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: Brad that as we sit here today towards the final 75 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: week of July, this team is still in the playoff 76 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: picture very firmly at this point, despite just so many 77 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 2: injuries to a very very talented roster. 78 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 3: Yeah. 79 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: I tried to allude to that too, because it feels and look, 80 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: we are agreeing with this sentiment to some extent. It 81 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: feels like it's been this like disaster season from hell 82 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: kind of season for the Braves this year, and that 83 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: is in a lot of ways true, and yet they 84 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: are still right there in the playoff mix and that's 85 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: also true, but it has really been a challenge. And 86 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: we'll kind of dig into the Max thing first, because 87 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: I know that you said this on our show last week, 88 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: So we did all of these extra podcast during the 89 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: All Star break looking ahead to the trade deadline. All 90 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: that is still roll over right now, but kind of 91 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: shifting a little bit as we're going here. But you 92 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: talked on the show extensively about how that's kind of 93 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: the package deal of Max Free and Chris Sale was 94 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: so important to get to October in one piece, and 95 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: that could still happen. 96 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 3: We should at least say that and acknowledge it now. 97 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: But the fact that you know, within a few days 98 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: of that Max Freed goes down, we'll kind of explore 99 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: kind of the details there. But I found some some 100 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: dark irony in that because we had that discussion literally 101 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: on this show, and it's like, all right, our next 102 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: show is going to be the exact episode of that. 103 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I did say, to my credit, I 104 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: was virtually knocking on every piece of wood within a 105 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: mile of me, and clearly I did not knock hard enough. 106 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: Because here we are three games into the quote unquote 107 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 2: second half of the year, and the Braves lose Max 108 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 2: Freed just crushing on many levels. I mean just for 109 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: Max himself, a player who is four months away from 110 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: hitting free agency, a player who has earned the tens 111 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: and hundreds of millions of dollars that is coming his 112 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: way presumably, and now for the second year in a row, 113 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 2: he has been shut down with a pretty serious elbow 114 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: and four army issue here. This one is a little 115 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: odd left forearm neuritis. It's a nerve issue, which I 116 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: guess is better than a ligament issue, but at the 117 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: same time, it's also a little scary that just based 118 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: on some of the symptoms that Max has talked about, 119 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 2: having numbness and tingling in his fingers and not having 120 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,679 Speaker 2: a great grip strength in his fingers, that's pretty freaky, 121 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 2: even if there isn't something necessarily torn or broken in 122 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: a body part. 123 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the circumstance here is pretty odd. Max. 124 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: This is all reporting that happened today. Max spoke to 125 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: the media, as did Brian Snicker, and Max said that 126 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: he's essentially felt something for the first time with this 127 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: issue on his pitching arm of course at the All 128 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: Star Game, and ended up pitching anyway, which is certainly interesting, 129 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that if you want to. But 130 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: he essentially I won't were the entire quote, but he 131 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: was warming up before the game like he usually does, 132 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: doing some arm circles. The way he said it, he 133 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: felt something and didn't think much of it. Quote in 134 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: this game, you feel things all the time. Normally they 135 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: go away. I didn't feel like I was in any jeopardy. 136 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: I really heard of myself end quote. But so it's 137 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: entingling from there, and they're obviously being careful with him. 138 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: He at least voiced that. That's the positive is that 139 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: we shared that with the training staff this week. The 140 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: first alarm bells actually happened when the when the Braves 141 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 1: scratched Dylan Dodd on Saturday night, and there were jokes 142 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: about hug Watch and trades and all that stuff. I 143 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: did not personally think about Max Freed being hurt as 144 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: the reason for why that happened, but that certainly seems 145 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: to be the case. And then Brian Sticker said that 146 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: Max is going to quote miss a little time, but 147 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: thankfully nothing showed up on the MRI. Nothing major is 148 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: the way that he also said that, but they're gonna 149 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: kind of rest him until he's you know, free of symptoms. 150 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: And the last thing said is that quote hopefully it's 151 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: just a brief ie ell stint. So like I said before, 152 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: you could frame this in a positive direction and that 153 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: maybe Max is back in a couple of weeks and 154 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: this is more of a blip. But I don't know 155 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: about you, Like I'm never gonna feel comfortable with that 156 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: with a pitching injury, and this goes for anybody. You know, 157 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: Max is obviously one of the best on the game, 158 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: but it wouldn't matter who it was. 159 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 3: Anything that has to do with your pitching. 160 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 1: Arm, pitching, elbow, pitching, forearm, pitching, shoulder, any of those things. 161 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: It is scary until it's not. And right now we 162 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: are still in scary spot. In a scary spot, yeah 163 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: we are. 164 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: And there was a good bit of research done by 165 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: Lindsey Crosby on Twitter talking about other pitchers who have 166 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: dealt with this same injury with forearm neritis, and the 167 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: recovery time is a little bit all over the place. 168 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 2: This past season, Toronto's Jimmy Garcia had the same ailment 169 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: that Max does. He ended up missing thirty two days 170 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: on the injured list. So about a month, and in 171 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, Garrett Whitlock of the Boston Red Sox 172 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: also missed thirty two days on the injured list. But 173 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 2: then there is the scarier instance where the Angels Ben 174 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: Joyce ended up missing ninety two days, so three months, 175 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: and then Josh Simpson of the Marlins is on one 176 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen days away and counting. He has still 177 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: not resumed pitching. That is quite the stretch anywhere from 178 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: four or five weeks to four months and counting. So 179 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: because it's a unique injury, I think that adds to 180 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 2: some of the concern. Again, so far, Max Fried and 181 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: Brian Snitker have said all of the right things that 182 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: they don't seem overly alarmed, although anytime you have numbness 183 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: and tingling in your fingers, it's obviously some case for concern. 184 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 2: You know, it seems like Max is going to be back, 185 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: But really for the next couple of weeks at least, 186 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 2: we just kind of have to hold our breath and 187 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 2: cross our fingers, because, yes, could the Braves make a 188 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: deep run without Max Freed healthy. 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What you just said is important to acknowledge, 214 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: and we just don't know what he'll be back and 215 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: right away near to the Braves, and the deadline is 216 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: ten days away or less than ten days away at 217 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: this point in time. So it is very possible, if 218 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: not probable, that Alexandthopoulos will not know realistically when Max 219 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: will be back when the deadline arrives, and that challenges everyone. 220 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: Plus just the fact that you know everyone wants pitching. 221 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: You can't just go out and snap your fingers and 222 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: find a guy who is Max free. That's not that 223 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: player doesn't it doesn't exist. We probably know that at 224 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: this point in time. Just worth saying that out loud, 225 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: and you know, coming in to now, basically, we did 226 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: talk about the fact that the Braves could add a 227 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: little bit of depth with an arm you can't have 228 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: too much pitching all that, and that still stands, but 229 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: you know, maybe the urgency level rempsup a little bit here. 230 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 3: They do have some semi reasonable depth. You know, Dylan 231 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 3: Dodd was the guy that I mentioned before they scratched 232 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 3: in Gwinnett and called up. They had not announced the 233 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: starter yet for Wednesday, which was which would have been 234 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 3: Freed's slot in theory. They got Smith shav they got 235 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 3: Bryce Elder, who wasn't very good over the weekend. They 236 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: have names, they have bodies, none of them are Max Freed. 237 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 3: So what do you do here? 238 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: Is it a situation where you kind of just have 239 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: to hold your breath because again not to believeror the point, 240 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: I don't see a scenario where the Braves have the 241 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: best package, just the thing, you can't just also trade 242 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: for a guy with a hope and a prayer. They 243 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: don't have a ton of prospects to offer, and then 244 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: now you throw on the fact that your maybe your 245 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: best position position player prospect note Alvarez, as we'll get 246 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: into in a second, is going to be in the 247 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: big leagues playing second base. You know, what are you 248 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: supposed to do here, Scott? Like, can they do you 249 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: just bring in a lower caliber, lower impact arm and 250 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: try to add more depth here? Like where does Alex 251 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: kind of look to bolster the team? Even though we 252 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: definitely agree just for the record that they kind of 253 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: have to hope that Max is just better by then, 254 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: but just in the meantime, they kind of just need 255 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: some more death baby. 256 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, to be a fly on the wall in that 257 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 2: front office this weekend. I can only imagine. I would 258 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: sure think this increases the chances that Alex goes out 259 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: and adds a starting pitcher of some kind over the 260 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 2: next week. In two days again, trade deadline is July thirtieth, 261 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 2: So what is very quickly getting here? I mean, I 262 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: guess Brad in some ways, if we are looking for 263 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 2: a silver lining, the fact that these two injuries happened 264 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: before the trade deadline and not after is like a 265 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 2: very small glimmer of hope that he now has time. 266 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: I mean, we're grasping its straws here, but I mean, 267 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 2: you can imagine if these two injuries happened on August first, 268 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 2: then you're you're screwed because you can't really do anything, 269 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: you know. I think the Braves would be okay, especially 270 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: once they get a j Smith Shawber back in the rotation. 271 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 2: We saw that Bryce Elder is just not a reliable 272 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: option every fifth day. He might be okay against lesser lineups, 273 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: but he got pounded on Saturday by the Cardinals. Dylan 274 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: Dodd just doesn't do it for me. I don't think 275 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: he does it for most people. So I would think 276 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: that Alex will go out and try to add someone. 277 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: As you very famously point out, it might not be 278 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: a star. It might be more of an innings eater, 279 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: a back of the rotation type, and the Braves are 280 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: going to need someone to eat innings because one of 281 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 2: Max's greatest strengths is just how he works deep into games. 282 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: You don't want to get to a point where all 283 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: of a sudden you're having to really tax your bullpen 284 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: because you just don't have starters who can work deeper 285 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: into games. 286 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 3: Is Jacob to Rizzy available? 287 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: You think, oh boy, we don't talk about Jacob to 288 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: Rizzy on this podcast. Bro, we talked about him a lot, 289 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: and I think we have at our our contract says 290 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: we have hit the quota of Jake Ooder as he 291 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: talk maybe Drew Smiley or oh who is the lefty 292 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: they added in the COVID season Tommy Malone, Oh yeah, 293 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: Loane up, that was I mean, COVID season was such 294 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: a joke. 295 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 3: But oh it's a dark point at this point. This 296 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 3: is going to be a rough podcast. 297 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: No, yeah, we agree, obviously, I'm trolling about Jake Jacoberzy, 298 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: but I do think and I mentioned this on the 299 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: last show, and I would stand by and obviously the 300 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: ergency level we agree is higher. They could have just 301 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: they could have done the boring starter at anyway. But 302 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: now it's kind of I'm not saying they have to 303 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: because there you could argue, and I'm not. I don't 304 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: love this argument, but I can imagine Alex looking at 305 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: the available, like the truly available options for what the 306 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: Braves could legitimately acquire, and deciding that they're better off with. 307 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 3: Ian Anderson and Dylan Dodd and Bryce Older. 308 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that's going to be the case, 309 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: but that that is, that is a defensible position if 310 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: they just don't have anybody out there. And I think 311 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: that people will love that sentiment. I understand that. But again, 312 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: they don't have a lot to offer prospect capital wise, 313 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: and the hope would be and I think that maybe 314 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: we'll know more in nine days, but the hope is 315 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: that Max Frey's gonna be pitching in a month, maybe less. 316 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: I don't really know. It's an impossible spot. I mean, 317 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: you mentioned the fly on the wall thing. It's one 318 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: hundred percent right, and we're gonna we'll get into Ozzy 319 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: in a second. Two And Ozzie again isn't having this 320 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: great season, but Ozzie's had proven entity that they trust 321 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: and they have these two holes now, one of which 322 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: is documented going to be eight weeks and that is 323 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: It's just it's really really difficult. And this is why 324 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: Alice gets paid the big bucks. It's why he's one 325 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: of the best in the game. 326 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 3: And he is. 327 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: But man, this is a really tough spot because they 328 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: were already plugging holes. Like, let's not breaking news them, 329 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: but listen to this podcast. I wouldn't imagine, but it 330 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: was like they were batting a thousand on the injury 331 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: coming into this weekend. 332 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 3: It's it's pretty rough. 333 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: No, they were hitting like seventy on the injury front 334 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 2: this season. Yeah, if that, it is just such a 335 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: bummer to lose Max. And let's hope for his stake 336 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 2: that he's back in a few weeks or even a month. Ideally, 337 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 2: you just want him back I would say before early September, 338 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: because that gives him three or four weeks to really 339 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 2: ramp things up and hopefully be in the clear, build 340 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 2: his strength and his stamina back, so the Braves can 341 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 2: go into a playoff series with a pitcher who when 342 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 2: he is right. I don't know if there's ten other 343 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 2: starting pitchers on planet Earth who I would take over 344 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: a healthy Max Freed. So really just a bummer for him. 345 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: I hope he bounces back. Let's hope that it's nothing serious. 346 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 2: But again, it is a little bit of uncharted territory. 347 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 2: With a nerve issue in your elbow, it's just not 348 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 2: a very common injury for pictures. 349 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: I wish we knew more. I'm sure the Braves wish 350 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,479 Speaker 1: they knew more. I feel for Max two. Like obviously 351 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: we cover the team, so we tend to lean on 352 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: the team side of things and the phantom side of 353 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: things until talking about the impact on the team. But man, 354 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: I really really hope for Max Freed the human that 355 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: he is back and able to pitch and get his 356 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: full payday. 357 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 3: And it may not be in Atlanta. 358 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: We've covered that at nauseum, and I get that people 359 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: won't necessarily care about the guy as much when he's 360 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: not with the Braves. Probably as our former guests, I 361 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: should say, Buster Ollen, he kind of made it pretty 362 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: clear on when he came up with us like. 363 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 3: Hey, he's not gonna be here anymore. That's fine, I 364 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 3: get that. 365 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: But everyone seems to love Max, and I think that 366 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: you want to root for the guy to be healthy 367 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: and get paid and all those things. So everyone's root 368 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: in the same direction here. Hopefully he's all right in 369 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, and we'll leave it there for now, 370 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: and we'll have updates, I'm sure as the rehab process 371 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: kind of comes and comes together here and how he 372 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: sort of heals up and does it pitch for a while, 373 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: and hopefully that's all he needs to get right. Let 374 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: us now pivot though to the other major injury, and 375 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: that is one Ozzie Albis. So this one was a 376 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: little bit a little bit more cut and dry in 377 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: an unfortunate way. 378 00:18:58,840 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 3: The injury. 379 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 1: Everybody kind of saw what it was pretty plain when 380 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: it happened on Sunday. 381 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 3: He is going on the il. 382 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: They've already said that with a fractured wrist, essentially it's 383 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: his left hand. He's gonna be out at least eight weeks. 384 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: It seems like eight weeks from today is essentially most 385 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: of the record season. I won't say that's the entirety 386 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: of the record season, but certainly that was in It's 387 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: definitely in play. But he's kind of like, if nothing else, 388 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: just ramping back up at the very very. 389 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 3: End of things. 390 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it was just a freak play. It happens. 391 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: Ozzie has been backed up in the past. He's not 392 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: been the always the most durable guy. 393 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 3: In the world. 394 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: He is quite small, of course, this one though, what 395 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Like I watched three plays like 396 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: five times, Like, I don't know what he's supposed to 397 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: do there. It just kind of it sucks, and it's 398 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: just an unfortunate thing. And in a normal season where 399 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: you haven't had so many injuries, it wouldn't be obviously 400 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: it would not be great. But it was just insult 401 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: to injury. After the Freedom news broke what hours before, 402 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: and it was like, oh, by the way, now you're 403 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: a franchise. 404 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 3: Second Basement's gonna be out for a while. Yeah. 405 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: Just brutal, and I mean, I'm sure Travis Darnaut feels awful. 406 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: It was a bad throw that took Ozzy right into 407 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 2: the runner, and it's not Travis Darnoe's fault. Obviously, there 408 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 2: was nothing he could have done. He did his best 409 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: to throw out a would be base Steeler, and I 410 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: think we all immediately knew that it was going to 411 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 2: be a bad injury for Ozzy. The fact that he 412 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: immediately hunched over and ripped off his glove and his 413 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: hand was swollen within like thirty seconds, and it was like, 414 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 2: oh boy, that's not good. I guess the glass half 415 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: full is that if it is eight weeks for Ozzy 416 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: to recover, he would come back around September fifteenth, which 417 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 2: would give him roughly two weeks in the regular season 418 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 2: to ramp up. Of course, we're going to have to 419 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 2: see how it heals. But man, as if shortstop wasn't 420 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: enough of a question mark for this team already up 421 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: the middle, now you have this gigantic injury hole at 422 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 2: second base where Nacho Alvarez is going to be thrown 423 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 2: into the fire, ready or not. I think we were 424 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: all excited to see Nacho at some point this year, 425 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: But I don't think there was a person on earth 426 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 2: who would have traded in Ozzie Alby's injury in order 427 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 2: to make that happen. So we'll see what the kid 428 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: can do, and hopefully Ozzie is able to recover quicker. 429 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 2: I mean that the Braves have said approximately eight weeks. 430 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: Maybe he heals quicker, it could be on the six 431 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 2: or seven week, and then it would give him more 432 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: time in September to ramp things up. But it really 433 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 2: is just yet another kind of gut punch for this 434 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 2: team that has seemingly had a major injury every few 435 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: weeks this year. 436 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know Ozzie missed time a couple of 437 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: years ago. You mentioned this in our doc and other 438 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: people have as well, like the sickos that remember this stuff. 439 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: This is very similar to ab with a von Grissom. 440 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: When Von Grissom came up from the Miners, he had 441 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: never played second base before, basically been a shortstop, and 442 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: he came up to replace Ozzy and it was kind 443 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: of a mild surprise, but not a huge one. 444 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: This time around, Nacho was not a surprise at all 445 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 3: like that was. 446 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: It's kind of the obviously going to do the Braces 447 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: have an incumbent backup that they can afford to start 448 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: for two months, you know, all respect is zac short. 449 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: They don't want to do that, I don't think, especially 450 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: with Arcia already struggling the way he has this year. 451 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: So it's kind of a natural move, you know, just 452 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: people didn't already hear this. It's already been reported multiple times, 453 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: and not is gonna come up and play second base. 454 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: You know, we don't have to do a ton of 455 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: a ton on this, but it's it was funny to 456 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: see several people kind of wonder why it wasn't him 457 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: playing shortstop and Arcia playing second base. It seem pretty 458 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: obvious to me, Scott, But uh, isn't it just as 459 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: simple as Nacho's defense is not supposed to be great 460 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: and Arcia, if he has a positive, is his defense, Like, 461 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: it seems pretty clear that they would trust Arcia's glove 462 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: a lot more shortstop. Yes, Nacho is playing a new position, 463 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: but second base is not the most difficut position for 464 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: a guy wh's been playing shortstop for a long time. 465 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I mean, it would be silly to 466 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: move Orlando off of shortstop if you don't. 467 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: Have to, especially for a guy who, again, like I'm 468 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: not saying not so can't pay shortstop, but one of 469 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: his questions is his defense. If he was supposed to 470 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: be the next Anderton Simmons, then yeah, you move Arcia. 471 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 3: That's fine. 472 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: But Nacho is not supposed to be that defensively, So 473 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: that's in case nobody didn't kind of follow that he's 474 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: actually more of a bat first prospect than a clift 475 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: first guy. Again, maybe maybe he can hold up short 476 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: hold up a shortstop. I'm not saying you can't, but 477 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: this is not This is not a situation where you 478 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: could hope that he'd be better than Narcia defensively. Because 479 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: of fact, I think we probably agree on this, but 480 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: just to say it plainly, if they thought Nacho was 481 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: going to be as good defensively as Arcia, they would 482 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: have already been having a play shortstop before Tounately. 483 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. And the fact that Nacho now 484 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 2: comes up plays second base, which is obviously an important 485 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 2: position on the infield, but it's not shortstop. And and 486 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what he can do offensively. He 487 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 2: has a very interesting profile. He never really hit for 488 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 2: power until he came up to Gwinnett, and all of 489 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 2: a sudden he's shown some real pop. He has a 490 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 2: great eye at the plate, He walks quite a bit, 491 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: gets on base quite a bit. So he does a 492 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: lot of things that are going to give him a 493 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 2: chance to be successful at the major leagues. There are 494 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 2: also some questions about Nacho long term. Talking to the 495 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: prospect guys over at battery power dot com, there are 496 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 2: some questions about Nacho being able to hit the fastball 497 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 2: at the major league level, especially hard fastballs, upper nineties fastballs. 498 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 2: Is he going to be able to turn those around 499 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 2: and drive them? That was an issue he was having 500 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: in the minors. And as we know, a scouting report 501 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 2: can get out so quickly on young players once pitchers 502 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 2: seemingly figure out how to attack them, and he's going 503 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: to have to make some adjustments. And I am sure 504 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: his heart is going to be pounding when he gets 505 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 2: into the lineup on Monday Night at Truest Park against Reds. 506 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 2: It'll be great to have him up. Hopefully it provides 507 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 2: a bit of a spark, but at the end of 508 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: the day, man, I mean it is even if you 509 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 2: are the biggest Nacho Avaretz fan in the world. And 510 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 2: let's hope he becomes a franchise piece for a long time. 511 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: The idea of having an up the middle duo of 512 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 2: a very much struggling Orlando Arcia and a rookie being 513 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 2: thrown into the fire of Nacho Alvarez. It's gonna be 514 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 2: a little touch and go, and let's hope it's okay 515 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: and Nacho rises to the challenge. But a lot is 516 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 2: going to be asked of this kid to help stabilize 517 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: second base for the next two months. 518 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 519 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: I think if you told even the prospect enthusiasts that 520 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: Nacho was going to be. 521 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 3: Up playing every day on July twenty. 522 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: Second, a few months ago, it would have been a 523 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: pretty shocking tern of events. Now, granted, he's been really 524 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: good in Gwinet, and he was good before that, and 525 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: he earned that. 526 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 3: He's the perent motion and I have no issue with 527 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 3: this at all. 528 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: Like I was certainly less enthusiastic about the prospect of 529 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: bringing up Nacho as a shortstop than other people were. 530 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: I just tended to trust prospects less everybody else does. 531 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: But this situation, like it's really your only option, Like 532 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: they don't have anybody else that makes any sense. They 533 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: could still make a trade. It would not surprise me anyway. 534 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: You know, we did talk about a lot of scenarios there, 535 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: even on that podcast where we kind of dove into 536 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: Snarra as a shortstop. It's a similar sentiment like theyre 537 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: just weren't that many names out there that made a 538 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: ton of sense. So, uh, they're just gonna have to 539 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: hope Nacho plays great. And yeah, maybe somebody asked us. 540 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: Somebody asked us this on Twitter. Is it possible that 541 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: Nacho is just so good over the next six to 542 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: seven eight weeks that you can't take him out of 543 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: the lineup? And I think that that's possible, but obviously 544 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: that the scenario there will probably be he moves to 545 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: shortstop and you bring Ozzen back. 546 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 3: I can't. 547 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: I'd be pretty surprised if Ozzie was healthy and you 548 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: just didn't come back to Ozzy. He's been too good 549 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: for too long. Yes, I would certainly acknowledge that Ozzy 550 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: has not been great this year. He's not been and 551 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: and that's you could argue if you wanted to be 552 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: an optimist, and I don't think I'm very optimistic today, Scott. 553 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but if you. 554 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: Wanted to make this argument, Ozzie's not been very good, 555 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: so maybe Dacho could be better. That's that's definitely possible 556 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: with the way that has been playing. But you don't 557 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: write Ozzy's off. He's too young. Yeah, the defense is 558 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: not great anymore for sure, But I don't think that 559 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: you could just like send Ozzie to past because of 560 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: this personally. 561 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 3: Oh no, no. 562 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 2: No, And I mean it's easy to forget that despite 563 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 2: a pretty down twenty twenty four, Ozzy Albays in many 564 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 2: ways had a career best season just a year ago, 565 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 2: and it seemed very sticky and it wasn't like just 566 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 2: out of the blue he suddenly had this great year 567 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 2: and it seemed flukish. 568 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 5: No. 569 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 2: I mean, this guy is a very quality middle infielder. 570 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: It's twenty seven years old, by the way, which is yeah, right, 571 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: he fears he feels thirty seven sometimes just because he's 572 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: been around for so long and he came up at 573 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: such a young age in the out of the farm system. 574 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean he'll love Ozsy just by all 575 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 2: accounts of fantastic human being. And let's hope that he's 576 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 2: able to get back at some point early enough in 577 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: September and kind of get his groove and find his 578 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 2: footing and get some bats in before the playoffs come. 579 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 2: And hey, if not, cho Albertas wants to be so 580 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 2: good and outshine kind of what the experts and scouts 581 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 2: expect him to be at this point in his career, 582 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 2: and he's so damn good that the Braves can't even 583 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 2: fathom taking him out of the lineup and they move 584 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 2: him to shortstop, then great, let's do it. 585 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 3: It would be it would be very. 586 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 2: Welcome for all of the bad things that have happened 587 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: to the team this season on the injury front. If 588 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 2: Nacho Alvarez, at twenty one years old, wants to really 589 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 2: shine and just lock himself into the shortstop position long term, 590 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: I think there is a million reasons why we would 591 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 2: very happily welcome that development. 592 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, we agree on that. Just want to get out 593 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,719 Speaker 1: in front of that a little bit because we got 594 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: some questions about it. I totally understand all that and 595 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: the enthusiasm, because look, I'm excited about Nacho too. I'm 596 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: intrigue to see what he looks like. This is not 597 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: a rond Nakunya can't miss prospect. That's worth acknowledging. He's 598 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: not supposed to be He's not supposed. 599 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 3: To be that way. 600 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: But hey, some guys just come up and play well 601 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: and that might happen right away, and I hope that's 602 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: the case. Beginning on Monday when he debuts for the Braves. Scott, 603 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: anything else you want to get to on the injury front. 604 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: I mean we could talk about the games for a second. 605 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: I guess this weekend not a ton to get excited about. 606 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: I'm contract you a lob be gobble to bring up 607 00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: Charlie Morton, but anything else you want to add on 608 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: the injury before we move on. 609 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: I would just like to wish that nobody else gets 610 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 2: hurt on this team. 611 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, though, while we're there, we should at 612 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: least like they just can't afford any more injury. I 613 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: mean we were probably already there before this, but realistically, oh, 614 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: I have one more, I have one more thin and 615 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: Mary up, Scott, I forgot about this. Can we just 616 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: do like ten seconds on the fact that, No, the 617 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: Brig's not gonna sell like people were like, are the 618 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: Brive sellers now? 619 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 3: No? No, they're not. 620 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: No, No, I mean they're not sellers. And as we 621 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 2: talked about at the top of the podcast, despite all 622 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 2: of these injuries, they are still nine or ten games 623 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: above five hundred. I don't have it in front of me, 624 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: but comfortably in the playoff mix. No, they're going to 625 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: add at the deadline. There's really nobody to sell either, which. 626 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: Is just kind of silly and well, ironically the guy 627 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: to sell will be Max, and they're not going to 628 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: sell Max. 629 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: Now, so right, I can't sell the picture with the 630 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: bad elbow. But no, guys, I mean, I know, fans 631 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 2: get emotional and they want to you know, the hot 632 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: takes get flying whenever uff goes poorly. But no, this 633 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 2: team is not selling. They're going to add over the 634 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: next week plus. And for the fans who feel like 635 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: this team really needed something, maybe in a way, these 636 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: two very key injuries to the Braves will kind of 637 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: push Alex to be even more aggressive at the deadline, 638 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: and who knows, maybe he will add more than he 639 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 2: was initially expecting because he feels like this team is 640 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: going to need more help and more depth, especially over 641 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: these next few weeks and months to navigate towards the 642 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: end of the year. 643 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's well said, and hopefully we'll be able to 644 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: cover that in real time. 645 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 3: But I'm sure they're going to be active. The phones 646 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 3: will be very ring off the hook. 647 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: Let's just say, over the next eight to nine days 648 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: at Braves HQ, because the games were kind of not 649 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: that exciting in a good way for the Braves. In 650 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: the last couple of days, we'll kind of fly through 651 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: these with some just observations. Saturday, they split the double header. 652 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: They won the first game based on pitching basically alone. 653 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: Moreton was quite good, as I'm again construction ob going 654 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: to bring up when it happens, as so was the 655 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: bullpen your gout. Eddie Rosario with two home run to 656 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: run homer to tie it and eventually kind of give 657 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: the Braves a chance to win it in Game one 658 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: and in Game two, lots of home runs, but not 659 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: a good result. 660 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: It was a good thing that the Braves just kind 661 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 2: of out of nowhere stole game one because you know, 662 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: you mentioned Charlie Mortin was really good. The bullpender's really good. 663 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 2: The lineup was lifeless against Kyle Gibson, and thankfully Eddie 664 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 2: hit that two run homer to tie it. And then 665 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: there was some really good small ball execution there. 666 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: Baby sack bunt talk, we got to do it too. 667 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 2: Sacks game yeah, two sack bunts. I don't know what 668 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 2: has happened to the Atlanta Braves. Two sack bunts and 669 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: the same game first time in three years they have 670 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,479 Speaker 2: done that, although I would argue that, I mean, like 671 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: Zach Short was one of the sacrifice buns. 672 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: And this is a good optionunity for a small bit 673 00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: of podcast drama, because I usually I am verrulently against 674 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: sack bunts of any kind, and I know our guy 675 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: Stephen Tolbert does not like a sack bunt, and I 676 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: don't think you liked that one. Even I don't want 677 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: to misrepresent Steve, I'm pretty sure he didn't like it either. 678 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: And then I will say this, I actually thought the 679 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: sack bunt by Zack Short made sense. The first one 680 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: I didn't like, but the one in the tenth is 681 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: like the only time I'd ever be cool with it, 682 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: because Zach Short, all due respect, is kind of not 683 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: He's kind of a pitcher in some ways with with 684 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: with the bat and man on second, nobody out when 685 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,479 Speaker 1: you need one run is like the time to do it. 686 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: So I didn't love it still, but I actually was like, 687 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: all right, you know what, if there's ever a time, 688 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: go ahead and sack bunt this time. And uh, you 689 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: know what, Steven, for listening to this podcast, sack wun's 690 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: are okay? 691 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 3: Well, once in a while, I don't. I don't like 692 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 3: them either. Just to be fair, Yeah, you neither. 693 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was it was correct in the 694 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: moment I thought, And thankfully the Braids were able to 695 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: win that first game because going into the night cap 696 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 2: with Bright Elder against Sonny Gray, who has been fantastic, 697 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 2: my man, Sonny Gray, I still wish, even with the 698 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 2: fantastic editions of Chris Sale and Ronaldo Lopez, I wish 699 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 2: the Braves would have added Sonny Gray last. 700 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so funny to be like I wish they 701 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: got Sunday Gray when the two guys they added are 702 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: like throwing gems every night. 703 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 3: It's actually quite funny. 704 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: You're right, though, maybe better, maybe better with Sunny Gray 705 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: than they would be without him. 706 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,959 Speaker 2: It might be like twenty twenty eight. But damn it, 707 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: the Braves are going to add Sonny Gray one of 708 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 2: these years. Maybe maybe he will become their Charlie Morton 709 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 2: and pitch until he's forty years old. Be yeah, hey, 710 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 2: it's you can do a lot worse. But yeah, I 711 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 2: mean the game on Saturday night was frustrating. Now, the 712 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 2: Braves did hit four home runs and almost had five 713 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 2: if not for a foul ball from Austin Riley very early. 714 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: I'm actually convinced that if that ball is fair, than 715 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: the Braves win the game. I don't know why I'm 716 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: convinced of that. 717 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 3: But I am. 718 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: It seems like when they get out to an early lead, 719 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: they win. They've been very good. When they get out 720 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 2: to an early lead and then compared to the other 721 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 2: team scores first, it's just like, oh boy, we'll see 722 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 2: if they can come back from this one. You know, Bryce, 723 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 2: it was kind of a weird start. Both Bryce Elder 724 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 2: and Spencer Schwellenbach got hit pretty hard, but they also 725 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: struck out a ton of hitters. Elder struck out nine 726 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 2: over six innings. Schwellenbach gave up three homers and four 727 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 2: runs over six but struck out eight and didn't walk anyone. 728 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 2: So it wasn't like they were just hanging them in 729 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 2: the middle of the zone and had no chance from 730 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 2: the very opening, but they did get hit hard. The 731 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 2: Braves tried to make it interesting there, made it six 732 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,439 Speaker 2: to five with the three homers and four batters from 733 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 2: Riley Ozuna and Eddie Rozario Homward for a second time, 734 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 2: but the Cardinals kind of broke it open in the 735 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: ninth inning against Grant Holmes, and then we know that 736 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 2: Sunday's loss. I mean, as if the Freed injury before 737 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 2: the game and the Ozzi Alby's injury during the game 738 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 2: warn't enough. A pretty frustrating loss on Sunday afternoon to 739 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: lose the series. 740 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: One more quick point on Saturday, and I saw Steven. 741 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: Not to pick on Steven because I agree with him. 742 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: There was fighting this battle on Twitter. I started to 743 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: and I decided to kind of log off Saturday night. 744 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: But people were mad about Grant Holmes pitching, and it 745 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: was like, guys, this is a doubleheader and they had 746 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: to blourn the bullpen in the first game, like they 747 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: kind of had to do that. And I'm not someone 748 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: who defends snet's bullpen usagiton, but I had no issue 749 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: with that whatsoever. It didn't go well and they tried 750 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: to get a third inning from him. I get that 751 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 1: that didn't look great, but they did play another game 752 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 1: that day, Like understood what they were doing. 753 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 2: Let's just say, yeah, the rain out on Friday night 754 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 2: was not ideal. No, not not only do you have 755 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 2: the doubleheader on Saturday, and I know that these guys 756 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 2: just had four days off for the All Star Game, 757 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 2: but you have the doubleheader Saturday, and then I don't 758 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 2: believe the Braves have an off day until the first 759 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 2: week of August. They have a very heavy schedule coming up, 760 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 2: including I believe another doubleheader in New York because of 761 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 2: a rain out earlier in the season, so they were 762 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 2: playing a ton of baseball over the next two weeks. 763 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, sure, if your bullpen was fully rested, 764 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 2: of course you go to somebody else besides Grant Holmes. 765 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 2: But when you're inning nineteen of a day, sometimes you 766 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 2: just have to ride it and see what happens. 767 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and to you, I looked it up. They don't 768 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 3: have a day off until August fifth, so yeah, another almost. 769 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: Two two weeks before they have no day off. So yeah, 770 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 1: pretty tough stuff there. You mentioned somebody's game. We did 771 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: talk about this last week or maybe in the last 772 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 1: few days about matt Olsen. That is still happening. Matt 773 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: Olsen has been in the dregs for quite some time now. 774 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: It gives me no pleasure to report that, but it's true. 775 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 1: His numbers are rough for the season and getting worse 776 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: by the day. I had some hope that he would 777 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: kind of find it during the break that did not happen. 778 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: All the Chipper Jones jokes have been out there. Get 779 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: Chipper going somewhere with Matt Olson, immediately, please someone. 780 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's been rough for a while. Just knowledge of. 781 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 2: That it is rough, you know. I think we have 782 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,720 Speaker 2: talked plenty on this show over the last week about 783 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 2: the Braves need more from Matt Olson. Yes, just full stop, 784 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 2: no questions asked. He is one of their stars, and 785 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 2: as they continue to lose stars to injuries, they need 786 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 2: the healthy ones to step up. And I guess if 787 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 2: you're going glass half full, Olsen did have I believe 788 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 2: four baseballs hit over one hundred miles an hour and 789 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 2: had nothing to show for it over the weekend. 790 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 3: Yeah he had some bad luck, to be sure. 791 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: I mean watching all that, but actually did a little 792 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: bit of I was trying my best, as you might imagine, 793 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,760 Speaker 1: to find something from Matt. 794 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 3: So I watched some. 795 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: Replays of those bad at balls, and like, yeah, he 796 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,919 Speaker 1: was unfortunate. We'll say that doesn't mean he's hitting the ball, 797 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: doesn't mean he's actually smashing the ball. 798 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 3: He was last year. 799 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,760 Speaker 1: He's not, But he also was a little b unlucky, 800 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: so maybe there's something there. 801 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 2: Maybe, but at the end of the day, for a player, 802 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 2: the Braves need to get going. He was zero for 803 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 2: twelve with two strikeouts, two double plays, and now on 804 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 2: the season, Matt Olsen, the fourth place finisher in National 805 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 2: League MVP just a year ago, is down to a 806 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 2: six ninety two ops Brad a six ninety two OPST 807 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 2: and that was with a terrific start to the season. 808 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 2: And it's just, man, I hope Mac gets going. He 809 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 2: seems like he's ever so slightly late on everything and 810 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 2: he is ever so slightly under everything. Maybe they're right, 811 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 2: like get Chipper Jones to Atlanta. I don't care what 812 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,760 Speaker 2: you have to do. Uh make an adjustment with his hands, 813 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 2: with his load, with his his feet, do something, because 814 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 2: the Braves need more out of Matt Olsen in the 815 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 2: second half. 816 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 3: We did a little bit about this on a show recently, 817 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 3: about how there's some you know, every other year stuff 818 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 3: with Matt and I don't know what that actually means 819 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 3: for anyone, but it has been true. But man, I 820 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 3: would have lost every dollar to. 821 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,479 Speaker 1: My name betting on Matt Olsen having a seven hundred 822 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: o PS or low were at this point in time, like, uh, 823 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 1: this is like a I think that we talked about 824 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: it amidst amidst ourselves offline in the hebitary church chat 825 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 1: this week, like it's like a first percentile outcome from 826 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: Matt Olson this year, like given health, like if you 827 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: take help off the table, him being this bad overalls 828 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 1: like a staggeringly poor outcome for what the periods could 829 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: have expected in a prime year. 830 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 3: He's not he's not old. 831 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,919 Speaker 1: There's no reason that this was going to happen, even 832 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: if he forecasted some progression. And by the way we did, 833 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: we did say and the off season like he was 834 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,760 Speaker 1: not going to be the same guy he was last year, 835 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: probably because he was so ridiculously good year ago, but 836 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: that was not this. I was not forecasting this. So 837 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: yet we were on the sand page there gotta be better. 838 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 3: Uh. 839 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: Kelnick was actually rough recently as well, but he kind 840 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: of found it a little bit over the weekend. Maybe 841 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: a small thing there. That's kind of all we have. 842 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: I mean, we should we should at least acknowledge that 843 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,919 Speaker 1: both Smith Shaver and Ian Anderson are on the way back. 844 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: Ian's been out for a long time, of course, but 845 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: he is getting closer. Pitched on Sunday in Guinette, So 846 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: there's that. I don't know anything else to add for 847 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: we look ahead briefly to the week, to the week 848 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: that's to come for the Braves. 849 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 2: Just a very quick shout out to Drew Hackenberg. And 850 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 2: listeners who don't follow the minor leagues may say. 851 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 3: Oral famous Drew Hackenberg. 852 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 2: Who in the world is Drew Hackenberg, But Drew is 853 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 2: the Braves' number nine prospect according to MLB dot Com. 854 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 2: And Drew set a minor league record this season with 855 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 2: sixteen strikeouts, yes one six sixteen strikeouts in his start 856 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 2: for Mississippi on Sunday. Very cool for him. He feels 857 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 2: like a player who could find himself in the mix 858 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 2: either more than likely in the bullpen, but perhaps in 859 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 2: the rotation as early as next year. Of course, we 860 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 2: will wait and see on that, but really just a 861 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 2: cool moment for Drew to strike out sixteen hitters over 862 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 2: seven innings is pretty special for him, so congrats. 863 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 3: That is. 864 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 2: Anytime a prospect of maybe not super high up notoriety 865 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 2: makes national headlines is pretty cool, So congrats to him. 866 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, a little bit of positivity at the 867 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: end of the podcast. In the otherwise pretty somber episode 868 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: of the show, the Braves do play again on Monday. 869 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: They have the Reds come into town for three games. 870 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,479 Speaker 1: The Reds are Okay. This is what I would say 871 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: at this point in time and what we know right 872 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: now about this series, that the Braves are scheduled to 873 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: pitch Lopezn't on Monday, sail on Tuesday, and then that 874 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: big old TVD on Wednesday. Given Max Freed's absence has 875 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: been covered earlier, so we'll see what that looks like. 876 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,800 Speaker 1: I truly don't even know. Do you have a guess 877 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 1: about Wednesday. I don't even have a guess myself. 878 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 2: Boy, It would not be Bryce Elder because it would 879 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:41,479 Speaker 2: be short rest. 880 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, he just pitched on Saturday, so nope. 881 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,439 Speaker 2: And it would not be a j Smith Shaver who 882 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 2: is still yeah, who's still rehabbing and pitched on Sunday. 883 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,879 Speaker 2: It might be Dylan Dodd. 884 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 1: If Don hasn't pitched by then. He I mean, I 885 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: would say, if Don doesn't pitch on Monday's, it's gonna 886 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:57,879 Speaker 1: be done. 887 00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure. 888 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, So probably let's hope they can win Monday and 889 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 2: Tuesday at least. 890 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 1: I mean, they've got they got one. I should, I should. 891 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 1: I didn't look this up by who else my pitch? 892 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 3: You know. 893 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 1: They got they got whinings, they got vines, they got names, 894 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 1: they got guys that can throw in there. None of 895 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,280 Speaker 1: them are exciting games, but they do have names, they've options. 896 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's hope for a couple of wins to 897 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 2: start the series on Monday and Tuesday. It would be 898 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 2: nice to pick up a few wins, especially with all 899 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 2: the bad news the team just had. The Reds are 900 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 2: a weird team. They just got swept by the Nationals 901 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 2: to start the second half. They're below five hundred, but 902 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 2: they have a positive run differential for the season. This 903 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 2: is just something I noticed looking at the standings. The 904 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 2: Saint Louis Cardinals are six games ahead of the Reds 905 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 2: in the NL Central, so six games not a small 906 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 2: amount at this point in the year. The Reds have 907 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 2: a plus sixty two run differential compared to the Saint 908 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 2: Louis Cardinals, so there's been some bad luck in there. 909 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 3: Cardinals defence new Magic Baby, It's back that. 910 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 911 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 2: Every time the Braves see the Cardinals, it feels like 912 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 2: something bad happens. But you know, the pitching is pretty good, 913 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 2: the bullpen is very good. For Cincinnati lineup is okay. 914 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 2: But overall, even with all of the injuries, you would 915 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 2: sure hope the Braves could take two out of three 916 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 2: this week. 917 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: You would certainly hope that to be the case, especially 918 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: with Lopez and Sale on the mount in two of 919 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: those games. But we will see. We will have full 920 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: coverage as always on this podcast. We're also firmly in 921 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: the in the mode of the season where we are 922 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: at emergency podcast zone, so we don't know when's gonna happen. 923 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 1: The deadline is again on the thirtieth as we're recording this. 924 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 1: It's now officially the twenty second in on the East 925 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: Coast as we're past midnight. 926 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 3: But yeah, eight nine days away from the deadline. 927 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 1: So stay tuned for potential emergency podcasts on this feed, 928 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: plus our usual stuff not only with myself and Scott, 929 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,760 Speaker 1: but also with Steven Tolbert and Sean Coleman. 930 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 3: It's goott anything to plug before we sign off. 931 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 2: Nothing to plug. 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