Speaker 1: In Italian food. I prioritize the lighter sauces I do.
Speaker 1: I'm colorless. That's that's tough to hear. I'm I'm a
Speaker 1: red sauceman myself. Now I'm like white sauce and then pesto,
Speaker 1: and then and then red sauce. You funk around with
Speaker 1: that vodka sauce ever a little bit. Vodka sauce is good.
Speaker 1: That's red yea. Yeah, so it's still lighter, it's reddish.
Speaker 1: Coming to ABC this fall, I don't want any I
Speaker 1: don't want any of that darky sauce. I love that
Speaker 1: you said that, but after you looked over your shoulder
Speaker 1: at your Martin d v D holp T. Campbell doesn't
Speaker 1: hear me. I don't want any darky sauce. I don't.
Speaker 1: She didn't either. Racists mostly money stuff I can't tell me.
Speaker 1: Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me,
Speaker 1: the podcast where we dive deep, deep into the pockets
Speaker 1: of black conspiracy theories and we finally work to prove
Speaker 1: that if you cut open the keyloid on the back
Speaker 1: of the greens neck, it will in fact bleed coking crown.
Speaker 1: I hear that. I hear that, and I believe that
Speaker 1: there's no doubt in my mind that's what it looks like.
Speaker 1: It's full of it seems like it not only will
Speaker 1: it bleed coking crown, but there'll be a little bag
Speaker 1: in there too, like a little purple bag. The bag
Speaker 1: comes out of the key low oh thing. I'm one
Speaker 1: of your host Langston Kerman, and I'm David. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: we're we're here. We're here, David celebrating our one hundredth episode.
Speaker 1: This is the one hundred epithede at one hundredth episode
Speaker 1: of My Mama told me, And if I get the
Speaker 1: words right, we'll celebrate. That's a big deal. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't think Martin got a hundred episodes? Did Martin?
Speaker 1: I get a hundred episodes? I'm looking at the DVD
Speaker 1: collection on my show. You guys can't see this, um
Speaker 1: but David, David could not have turned cleaner and and
Speaker 1: more clearly to the DVD collection. It's as if he
Speaker 1: like looks at it every day like some sort of
Speaker 1: almost memorial for Martin. I'm not sure what it is. Well,
Speaker 1: it's my DVD section. I have Martin and then I
Speaker 1: have Meteor Man because that's harder to find than you
Speaker 1: would think. Oh, Martin got a hundred and thirty two episodes,
Speaker 1: so we we've got some work to do if we're
Speaker 1: gonna keep up with Martin. All I'm trying to do is,
Speaker 1: ever do is catch Martin? Catch Martin and uh and
Speaker 1: maybe don't hurt Tisha Campbell in the process. No, No,
Speaker 1: we love t Sha, we love Dwayne. Now they're broken up.
Speaker 1: She really leaned into that singing career when they split
Speaker 1: and and that wasn't great. I feel like the time
Speaker 1: is not now she has now you're fifty, baby girl. Stop,
Speaker 1: it's okay, it's okay. You don't need a single. We
Speaker 1: don't need a single. We don't need it. And frankly,
Speaker 1: she's proven herself. And this is what's so disappointing for me,
Speaker 1: at least with Tisha Campbell, is she's proven herself to
Speaker 1: be one of the greatest sitcom actress actresses in history.
Speaker 1: She's been a part of some fucking classics. I don't
Speaker 1: need you to go make mediocre music. I need you
Speaker 1: paired alongside one other black man who people are gonna
Speaker 1: say it is difficult at times, Pam Pam if her
Speaker 1: and Pam toward like various county fairs, barber shop openings,
Speaker 1: raising Kine openings, things like that. I would I would
Speaker 1: be into that. I love the idea of somebody opening
Speaker 1: a Raisin Kane and mean like and now performance from
Speaker 1: Pam and Gina, y'all, that's everything I want in to day.
Speaker 1: They come out and they do. They do all their classics,
Speaker 1: they do some stuff from Little Shop of Horse met them,
Speaker 1: and then they go into they maybe they do that
Speaker 1: everybody loves everybody hates Chris song, just as because that's
Speaker 1: in the wheelhouse, I suppose. And then they close it
Speaker 1: out with with I guess, I don't know, riffing. I
Speaker 1: think they do some riffing. I think close it out
Speaker 1: with like an end Vogue song or something. Uh they
Speaker 1: started doing cover okay, I hear you, Yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 1: they're both of their catalogs are not that deep. No,
Speaker 1: they don't have very much. In fact, even in the list,
Speaker 1: I gave away a song that does not belong to
Speaker 1: either of them. So that's a good song though that
Speaker 1: everybody hates Chris song. It's you know what, it's I
Speaker 1: think ten seconds long. But the motherfucker's was nailing it.
Speaker 1: All you need, all you need, You just need a
Speaker 1: little taste. Yeah, you know that was actually sang by
Speaker 1: the Weather Girls, the same ladies who's sang it's raining? Man?
Speaker 1: Is that true? I don't know. You have Martin DVDs
Speaker 1: on your wall. I thought maybe this was this is
Speaker 1: just a little tidbit that you had sitting in your pocket. No,
Speaker 1: it sounds like something I would know. It's out us.
Speaker 1: I was convinced, and I'm I'm a fool. You're not,
Speaker 1: You're not, You're You're fine, You're fine. That was crazy.
Speaker 1: I abused my power, and I understand, well, we we
Speaker 1: can't bullshit much longer about to Sheena Arnold and Titia Campbell,
Speaker 1: both lovely classic actresses and in the black sitcom space.
Speaker 1: But today we are celebrating a hundred episodes of the
Speaker 1: show that the centennial if if I don't know what
Speaker 1: centennial means, And so with that, I thought the best
Speaker 1: way for us to celebrate because you haven't been here
Speaker 1: at the entire time. In fact, you're you're a much
Speaker 1: more recent add to the journey of my Mama told me,
Speaker 1: although you were on one of our very very earliest episodes.
Speaker 1: I was on early they forgot about Tren then a
Speaker 1: white man made a song about not forgetting about it,
Speaker 1: and here you are again. But I thought, I thought
Speaker 1: a fun journey for us to take on together is
Speaker 1: to go back and look at some of our favorite topics,
Speaker 1: the the topics that sort of came up early in
Speaker 1: the in the rolodecks of our bullshit here at my
Speaker 1: Mama told me. And we'll just talk about him some
Speaker 1: things you probably haven't gotten a chance to hear. And
Speaker 1: so I'm excited to hear all of your thoughts borri
Speaker 1: on on on all these different subjects. Something to bring
Speaker 1: it out, I know you do. And what better way
Speaker 1: to start. And this will be exciting for our listeners
Speaker 1: because this is actually the subject of a long lost episode,
Speaker 1: an episode that never actually made it to air. Our
Speaker 1: earliest guest, who who technically was not our earliest guests recorded,
Speaker 1: but our earliest guest was Will Miles. I'm a big
Speaker 1: fan of him. I know you know him well Chicago.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, do that for every person I list. But
Speaker 1: Will actually did our our test pilot for the show.
Speaker 1: And with the test pilot, he came with a theory
Speaker 1: that I had never heard before and up to this
Speaker 1: date to have not heard again since he said, my
Speaker 1: mama told me the mail is being used to send
Speaker 1: poisonous perfume samples, possibly government terrorism. Okay, there's a lot
Speaker 1: to unpack here. Yeah, yeah, it's not it's not a
Speaker 1: quick one, because this is what was the last time
Speaker 1: you got a magazine with a perfume sample? That's that's
Speaker 1: a big question that magazine he's still getting where he's
Speaker 1: like like, at best, Look, the only magazine subscriptions I
Speaker 1: have were completely by accident at this point, do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like you bought an item and
Speaker 1: then they're like, well, technically by buying this, you get
Speaker 1: a subscription to our our magazin thing. I have a
Speaker 1: GQ magazine subscription that I bought because I try to
Speaker 1: pretend myself to myself that I was that kind of
Speaker 1: a guy. And now I still still have it and
Speaker 1: it still comes every week. But I don't whoa what
Speaker 1: what what prompted g Q? What? What what happened where
Speaker 1: you were? Like I think I'm gonna be a g
Speaker 1: Q do Sometimes I'm on stone on the internet, just
Speaker 1: like you know what, I don't know about you know
Speaker 1: different fragrances and fashion trends. Who could keep me up
Speaker 1: on that? You know what I mean? Like, I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I need some kind of an
Speaker 1: aggregate to a adult manhood and I thought that I
Speaker 1: thought that g Q would be that, and I have
Speaker 1: not cracked. I think I cracked open one like six
Speaker 1: months ago. That's it. Whoa embarrassing, you know what it is?
Speaker 1: I I feel like with g Q, I'm not convinced
Speaker 1: that I'm never gonna look the way that these guys look,
Speaker 1: and so it intimidates me. If I'm being honest, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at these guys and ensure those outfits are cool.
Speaker 1: But are they would they be cool on me? I'm
Speaker 1: going to talk shit in a bar. I ain't really
Speaker 1: about to do all this cool stuff in bathtubs, in suits,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? They're in like speedboats with
Speaker 1: wood paneling. M hmm. Like every speedboat that I'm on
Speaker 1: has like neon colors. Yeah, I'm I'm a plastic speedboat man,
Speaker 1: big time, big time. It has like a dumb name,
Speaker 1: like yeah, people are smoking like black and milds on
Speaker 1: it like that's yeah, that's the problem with g Q
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a little too They mean like a
Speaker 1: may need like a lower level GQ like for for
Speaker 1: like not not gentlemen, but just like so I don't
Speaker 1: know what the what's step below gentleman? Right is there
Speaker 1: is there a term for below gentleman. I think that's
Speaker 1: called middle manager. We need like the middle managers quarterly,
Speaker 1: like you got some bread, You got some bread, you
Speaker 1: got like your your TV is wall mounted, but you
Speaker 1: don't necessarily have health insurance like those guys. It's wall mounted,
Speaker 1: but it's still got those cords underneath it. And pay
Speaker 1: for the tuck now you didn't get it tucked in.
Speaker 1: So here we are and and yeah, you you probably
Speaker 1: want to see what what fashion you can pull off.
Speaker 1: That's what I That's all I want, man, that's all
Speaker 1: I want. I like that. I like that for you.
Speaker 1: And and to that, I think in your magazine, at
Speaker 1: least by by your suggestion, I'm assuming they would not
Speaker 1: be putting the perfume samples and cologne samples inside of it.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. And I'm not gonna sit here and
Speaker 1: lie to you like I've never tried to use the
Speaker 1: cologne sample and pass it off his cologne I'm wearing.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't work, man, Right, It's just it's not enough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't of you a lot. It's like one spray.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of I got a lot of
Speaker 1: real estate to cover. Yeah, these crops are gonna they're
Speaker 1: gonna need a little more, a little more greening than that.
Speaker 1: Come on, one spray my whole body. But that's why
Speaker 1: I wonder what he like, who has well must be
Speaker 1: getting like black tail or something like what magazine still has.
Speaker 1: What's fascinating is and this is something he and I
Speaker 1: talked about when we originally had this conversation, but it
Speaker 1: actually was all this, this theory, this fear was all
Speaker 1: started from a an email that was sort of circulating.
Speaker 1: This is back when emails used to circulate, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense. And the email reads and I'm gonna read
Speaker 1: it verbet and it goes urgent news from Glenn Eagle's Hospital,
Speaker 1: Urgent with five exclamation points after that. Seven women have
Speaker 1: died after inhaling a free perfume sample that was mailed
Speaker 1: to them. The product was poisonous if you received free
Speaker 1: samples in the mail, such as lotions, perfumes, diapers, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Throw them away. The government is afraid that this might
Speaker 1: be another terrorist act. They will not announce it in
Speaker 1: the news because they do not want to create panic
Speaker 1: or give the terrorists and new ideas. Send this forward
Speaker 1: to all your friends and family members. Diane J. Ford,
Speaker 1: Office of the Free of the Chief of Police, Office
Speaker 1: of Risk Management, one O one M Street, s W Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. First of all, people are getting perfumes, lotions
Speaker 1: and diapers samples in the mail. I think, I think
Speaker 1: in the late nineties we were mailing everything. That's true,
Speaker 1: we weren't. We were so before nine eleven, we were
Speaker 1: so flipping yeah, we didn't give a funk who got Yeah,
Speaker 1: just with this big old tub of lotion in the
Speaker 1: mail of these as you niggas figure it out. And
Speaker 1: now we're very careful to your point. Now it's you
Speaker 1: barely can spray yourself with the cologne. But back then
Speaker 1: you get a whole You get a whole dre card
Speaker 1: noir in the mail. Call it a sample. Send me
Speaker 1: some of that awkward digio. Yeah six bucks? What happened
Speaker 1: to us America? You know, we have so many sense
Speaker 1: I feel like poor people don't wear cologne anymore, and
Speaker 1: that's a big issue. Mm hmm. What what was your
Speaker 1: your go to cologne when you were a young, upstart,
Speaker 1: a young man figuring it out. Ah, I had a
Speaker 1: bottle of Adidas Oh No, that I got for Christmas
Speaker 1: and one of those packs, you know how it would
Speaker 1: be like the Adida's cologne, the Adida's deodorant, and then
Speaker 1: like a pair of Adidas sock Of course, I got
Speaker 1: like one of those and I used that That was
Speaker 1: probably like eight to ninth or tenth grade. And then
Speaker 1: I got Aquadiggio because this girl named a Lana had
Speaker 1: told me that it smells really good. And then that
Speaker 1: and that kind of carried me to my early twenties.
Speaker 1: And then I was thugging no sense, just raw dog
Speaker 1: out in the wind, just trying to live. Man. And
Speaker 1: now tell me this, did Alanna notice when you bought
Speaker 1: the Aquadigio? This fuck? That's that's hard to hear. She
Speaker 1: was elevated, man, she had She like, yeah, it wasn't
Speaker 1: it was never meant to be. You give your heart
Speaker 1: to these people and they don't. They don't give it back,
Speaker 1: you know, they truly don't like the fact that you
Speaker 1: remember she was the one that planted this seed in
Speaker 1: your head is always gonna ache at you. And she's
Speaker 1: not gonna be like, damn, I told David to wear that,
Speaker 1: and he never I never complimented in him on how
Speaker 1: well he smells. You know what I mean. I've I've
Speaker 1: thought about it realistically. I don't think she would remember me. That's'
Speaker 1: and I've been on TV. What do you think I
Speaker 1: did it a lot? Do you think I need it
Speaker 1: for the money? No, it doesn't pay that much if
Speaker 1: you're not a star. Realized that. But it's a hundred
Speaker 1: percent scales. You know how many times? You know how
Speaker 1: many bit parts I gotta do to buy a car?
Speaker 1: Probably sixty. I just do it. So Alanna, we'll see.
Speaker 1: So maybe Alanna is sitting down in her home and
Speaker 1: she never knows, but I'm hoping maybe she watches Pause
Speaker 1: with Sam Jane. She's like, Wow, i've seen that guy before.
Speaker 1: I recognize I recognized his free wheeling feelings about drugs.
Speaker 1: And then you know, she looks yea and then oh ship,
Speaker 1: he's verified, and then she sa and I don't respond,
Speaker 1: good for you, Dad, don't give her that. I hope
Speaker 1: that she watches Pause. She goes. I had a feeling
Speaker 1: David would do crack someday. But but I still I
Speaker 1: still have feelings for him. I still I still feel
Speaker 1: like it's unrequited love. I'm going to send him a
Speaker 1: message and then you big timer hard that bitch. Oh
Speaker 1: you're blocking her. She can't even see you anymore. Tumb finger.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, no, you had a chance. So one of
Speaker 1: the things that that we discovered in sort of talking
Speaker 1: about this apparent conspiracy theory is that the the email
Speaker 1: was completely made up, and uh, it was sort of
Speaker 1: rooted in a lot of like the hoax and energy
Speaker 1: that was born out of Nina eleven and the anthrax
Speaker 1: scare right that I in this this wasn't there was
Speaker 1: no evidence of it actually being real. These seven women,
Speaker 1: six women whatever it was, dying in this hospital from
Speaker 1: sniffing perfume. But in sort of riding the anthrax waves,
Speaker 1: some idiot at home was like, I'm gonna start telling
Speaker 1: people their perfume samples or poisonous and see what that does.
Speaker 1: And it didn't do anything. I mean, it stopped perfume samples, right,
Speaker 1: it did. It certainly put a little bit of a
Speaker 1: bind on the perfume samples. I have got no free
Speaker 1: perfume because now that I think about it, I do remember,
Speaker 1: not me, but my mom. It would be that tiny bottle,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. Ye, Like it'd be
Speaker 1: like that tall and like really thin. Yeah, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen any of those since. I mean I think that
Speaker 1: it's I think it's since leven. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: feel like back then you could get a sample and
Speaker 1: get on an airplane with a sample in your pocket.
Speaker 1: And now they're like these are this is just gonna
Speaker 1: get people in trouble in every way possible. You can
Speaker 1: get on an airplane pocket knives, aerosols, your shoes, everything. Man,
Speaker 1: it's like going to jail. Give me a bill. Well,
Speaker 1: not me, I have clear, but for poor people, Like
Speaker 1: these seats are too small, you're gonna want to kill yourself.
Speaker 1: Give me a goddamn bill. No shoelaces. That's also why
Speaker 1: I flying crocs. I gotta I got a whole system. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a big flip flop flyer. Now you have to
Speaker 1: you have to like to get and I'm not like
Speaker 1: a savage, right, like I got socks on. I'm not
Speaker 1: like a white person, But like you have to get through.
Speaker 1: You just have to get through fast, you know. It
Speaker 1: makes everything easier, and it also makes it so you
Speaker 1: don't feel like some weird urge to kick off your shoes, which, uh,
Speaker 1: which I've done, and frankly is real. It's real nice.
Speaker 1: But I also feel terribly ashamed afterwards. Yeah, you should
Speaker 1: feel bad. That's one thing you should feel bad about. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not proud of that at all. And uh, I
Speaker 1: blame my father. I would not I would not have.
Speaker 1: I would not have taken your first shoes off on
Speaker 1: the plane kind of guy. I don't want to be
Speaker 1: that guy. But if I'm being honest, once you do it,
Speaker 1: you're like, this is this is luxury that I've never
Speaker 1: imagined before. That's the freedom I I won't allow myself
Speaker 1: to taste. That's fair, you know. I think I think
Speaker 1: the truth is we could all afford a little bit
Speaker 1: more China in this country. There there should be a
Speaker 1: little bit more whoa whoa. There should be a little
Speaker 1: bit lebron James hard fastened rules of of ship that
Speaker 1: we have to follow, you know, we have we we
Speaker 1: can't just be free willing everywhere, you know, and if
Speaker 1: it means that I have to keep my goddamn shoes
Speaker 1: on when I'm flying through the air. I'd respect it,
Speaker 1: I'd serve, I respect, I appreciate that, because that is nasty.
Speaker 1: You can't. It's just it's bad for everything. All right,
Speaker 1: let's dig into another one. I feel like that we
Speaker 1: did everything that we could on that. It sounds like
Speaker 1: you don't believe it for one second. You, oh, you
Speaker 1: believe it? Kind of no, not even kind of oh,
Speaker 1: not even kind of great. Okay, this, oh, this was
Speaker 1: a fun one. Carl Tart our former guest, Carl Tart
Speaker 1: very funny man, crooked, crooked, litter, humpback, humpback, Oh you
Speaker 1: know you remembered. Okay, you're you're nice with it. But
Speaker 1: Carl Tired actually came to us with a conspiracy theory
Speaker 1: that he said, my mama told me, if you eat
Speaker 1: spaghetti from a woman you don't know, she might put
Speaker 1: her minstrel blood in it and put a hex on you.
Speaker 1: There's a Kevin Gates song about it, okay, And is
Speaker 1: that more convincing for you or less? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Does Kevin Gates believing something make you feel more solidified
Speaker 1: in it? Or or surely like you're trapped in a
Speaker 1: in a manic place. I am, I am ah, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is gonna get weird. I think that if there
Speaker 1: was a rapper who knew how to put out an
Speaker 1: evil spell or knew about evil spells, it would be
Speaker 1: Kevin Gates. M M. Now when you say that, are
Speaker 1: you referring specifically to male rappers, because if it's all rappers,
Speaker 1: I'm going to sail your banks every time. Oh that's
Speaker 1: a good point. That's a good that's a good point.
Speaker 1: I guess male rappers. I'm not sure, But anyways, that's
Speaker 1: not the point. Do I think that they could put
Speaker 1: could make you couci spaghetti and run your brain? I
Speaker 1: think that the ways of women are very mysterious and
Speaker 1: that I don't, man, I don't because it it's not
Speaker 1: like she's gonna make you a zombie if you eat it, right, No,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the implication is that it's more
Speaker 1: like a love potion than it is like a uh
Speaker 1: and a full submission of your being, If that makes sense.
Speaker 1: That could be true. That it's pheromones, right, uh huh,
Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about, I think, so. I mean,
Speaker 1: I I truly was, I was gonna let you think
Speaker 1: it through. But then you're like, it's pheromones, right, go ahead, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, because it's not only spaghetti, Spaghetti is
Speaker 1: just the easiest way to put right. I think they're
Speaker 1: The implication is that spaghetti is the best place to
Speaker 1: hide it because of the matching color of the menstrual
Speaker 1: blood to the pasta sauce. But you could also put
Speaker 1: it in your pizza, then I think she could. I
Speaker 1: think for specifically, black people were not known for making
Speaker 1: a ton of pizza, certainly at home. Like if if
Speaker 1: I go over a girl's house and she's like, I
Speaker 1: made you a pizza, I'll be like, bitch, what's wrong
Speaker 1: with you trying to trap me? Kevin Gates told me
Speaker 1: about this. You ain't Italian? What the fun is this?
Speaker 1: If she's making spaghetti, you're like, oh, yeah, yeah, it's nice.
Speaker 1: You know this is black. If it's black people spaghetti,
Speaker 1: it's cooked in one pot and this guy's sugar in
Speaker 1: it for some reason. Yeah, okay, this is just a
Speaker 1: regular black lady doing black people's stuff. And then do
Speaker 1: you ever get the fatass garlic bread that they're sell
Speaker 1: it safe way? Oh? Hell yeah? Yeah, man, that is good.
Speaker 1: That that Texas toast. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good on spaghetti.
Speaker 1: We should just make some spaghetti after this. Honestly, we
Speaker 1: should just starting this podcast into uh Spaghetti Cooking Hour,
Speaker 1: Spaghetti appreciation. You know, weird thing about spaghetti? I refused
Speaker 1: to eat it and rest wrongs? Whoa why? Now? Tell
Speaker 1: me more? Is it doesn't have anything to do with
Speaker 1: menstrul blood. No. I think it's just I've had it
Speaker 1: at home so much. I'm not gonna go to the
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: dress up, go out to eat and give a tip
Speaker 1: for some Spaghetti's insane, that's insane. It does feel like
Speaker 1: the lowest wrong of like uh of starter foods. In
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, it's the cheapest pasta, it's the
Speaker 1: cheapest pasta, and it's also the one that we all
Speaker 1: feel the most confident even approaching. So it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't pay a stranger to do this. I'm not
Speaker 1: paying anybody for spaghetti ever. M I do think that's
Speaker 1: why when you go to restaurants they often add like
Speaker 1: the bolon as the egg. Now, I think bolon as
Speaker 1: just means like it's like a meat sauce, if I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken. And I think part of the reason they
Speaker 1: make it sound more Italian than it actually is is
Speaker 1: because they're like, well, you can make spaghetti at home,
Speaker 1: but do you know how to make bolonaise? And it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, I guess you got me there. I don't
Speaker 1: really know. I feel like I could, Oh, you can
Speaker 1: make bolon That's what I'm saying. Give me I need.
Speaker 1: I need the white sauces. I need the cream sauces.
Speaker 1: And that might be racist. I prioritize white sauces, but this,
Speaker 1: do I believe this? Anything's possible. Have you ever eaten
Speaker 1: the spaghetti of a of a woman? You did not?
Speaker 1: You were not committed to you were you were just
Speaker 1: sort of like canoodling with the spaghetti. No, I feel
Speaker 1: like every time it's been like Auntie spaghetti. I don't
Speaker 1: think I've had like a woman. I'm dating spaghetti not
Speaker 1: because of this, mmm, just because like if I'm eating
Speaker 1: your leftovers, then it feels like we're dating. Like I'm
Speaker 1: kind of like I'll drink your juices and stuff, but
Speaker 1: like I commit a heating a plate. It feels a
Speaker 1: little too personal. I got you so so truly, it's
Speaker 1: more of a type of pretension that's kept you unhexed
Speaker 1: more than not wanting the spaghetti of a stranger right
Speaker 1: right right, right right right. But you know that being said,
Speaker 1: if you you know, if you're out there age appropriate,
Speaker 1: got a good job, you can COUCHI couci spaghetti trapped me.
Speaker 1: I'm open, you know what I mean. I got health insurance,
Speaker 1: I'm a small business owner. I got a few credit cards.
Speaker 1: Give my man your couchie curse. He's available for couching
Speaker 1: curses and uh and titty tricks as well, whatever whatever
Speaker 1: comes to mind. Yeah, all sort of down bottom trickery.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm for it. Put some breast milk in this cereal.
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens. Yeah, who knows. Maybe that one though,
Speaker 1: So you're you're feeling good about that one as a
Speaker 1: as a potential real curse that we're all facing. I
Speaker 1: think that's real. I think that's that seems like some
Speaker 1: weird ship. Yeah, okay, I like this. I like that
Speaker 1: we're heading towards that direction. This is a fun one
Speaker 1: that that came from our our former guest Naomi a Paragon.
Speaker 1: Very funny, And Naomi, this is New York City, New
Speaker 1: York City, that's right? Do you know which do you
Speaker 1: know which borrow? You know which section of New York?
Speaker 1: My eyes are getting weary back from Quen. Damn, damn.
Speaker 1: I think he's a Harlem native if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1: Midnight at the Old Paces. There you go. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: did the New York though. That was pretty good. I
Speaker 1: think now you nailed it, Naomi a Paragan said, my
Speaker 1: mama told me that white people don't get cold to
Speaker 1: a degree. Yes, this is what is true. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's We actually did a bunch of research for this
Speaker 1: one and found out that there's a fair amount of
Speaker 1: legitimacy to this conspiracy theory. Yeah, I've seen them go
Speaker 1: nuts in the snow. What do you mean? Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: just like I've been like driving down the road before
Speaker 1: in the snow and seemed like a white guy with
Speaker 1: no shirt on or like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I've been like at the grocery store in a blizzard
Speaker 1: and some dude walks in and shorts like all that
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Like I've seen that stuff, and you're
Speaker 1: you're a denver native. You've spent a lot of time
Speaker 1: in a very cold atmosphere with a lot of primarily
Speaker 1: white people. I imagine you've seen them at their most
Speaker 1: drink don't drink cold beer in a garage if it's
Speaker 1: snow and outside. Jesus Christ, I know. So this one
Speaker 1: isn't even I don't even think we have to go deep.
Speaker 1: This one is. This isn't even a conspiracy. That's a fact.
Speaker 1: That's like we all knew that. Yeah, No, I think
Speaker 1: it's pretty legit. I I do wonder how often these
Speaker 1: stereotypes are making their way back to white people in
Speaker 1: a way that like that they're hearing that black people
Speaker 1: or anybody else is saying these things about them, and
Speaker 1: does that then make them go, hey, maybe we should
Speaker 1: work on that, Maybe we should uh not not do
Speaker 1: that anymore. If there's one thing I've learned about white
Speaker 1: people is that they don't do that. So not a
Speaker 1: particularly reflective bunch. No, And that's not even and that's
Speaker 1: not even a that one's not good or bad, right,
Speaker 1: it's just like no, And frankly, I think it's better
Speaker 1: for them given the environments that they often trekking. I
Speaker 1: think it's it's it's it's certainly a safety net of sorts.
Speaker 1: I will say I had I had my water either
Speaker 1: went out for a couple of weeks, so I was
Speaker 1: just raw dogging these cold showers. It's if it makes
Speaker 1: you feel good after this. The shower is not plug it,
Speaker 1: but the way you feel after it's very good. Ah.
Speaker 1: Even now, I finished all my showers with a cold blast. Really,
Speaker 1: oh shit, no, thank you. I'll miss out on that
Speaker 1: opportunity one time. You don't have to shower in the cold,
Speaker 1: just like end it with the cold blast to get
Speaker 1: your whole body cold and then get out. Damn, that's hoof.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be tough for me. I'm a real I'm
Speaker 1: a real hot shower man myself. But even in the summer,
Speaker 1: even in the summer, I'll sometimes I go out and
Speaker 1: exercise and then I come back in and I take
Speaker 1: a shower and I'm still sweating after the shower, and
Speaker 1: I need that cold blast anything. But I'm too much
Speaker 1: of a coward to heave. And no, you gotta do it,
Speaker 1: because that double sweating thing is the world. I call
Speaker 1: that double jeopardy. It's the worst field because then you're like,
Speaker 1: why did I even take the shower. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: a complete waste of a shower. No. Yeah, now I'm
Speaker 1: just double what damn? All right, so I got I
Speaker 1: gotta welcome cold showers into my life. And white people
Speaker 1: you can just keep doing you baby, no notes, you're
Speaker 1: killing it. Yeah, maybe try putting some coucie juice in
Speaker 1: this the cast roll or whatever does you make. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're tuna fish cast roll. Putt a little put a
Speaker 1: little pussy juice in there. You can heck somebody like
Speaker 1: black people do the spaghetti. All right. Here's a fun
Speaker 1: one that comes from from my friend Mr Nate Marshall.
Speaker 1: Nate Marshall is a very talented poet that I know.
Speaker 1: But Nate Marshall came with a conspiracy. Do uh that's okay.
Speaker 1: I'll give you some context clues. Same place as me. Chicago,
Speaker 1: Chicago babies and done, Wendy City. Let me let me
Speaker 1: get up, let me get a beef. And I was,
Speaker 1: let me get a beef. Isn't that what you guys
Speaker 1: do out there? Yeah? I think we've been watching one
Speaker 1: television program in particular and decided that that was the
Speaker 1: entire city's personality. But hell yeah, that I've heard it
Speaker 1: said behind chef, I've seen some other's stuff. I knew
Speaker 1: that that was a Chicago show, I know, but I
Speaker 1: know about your place. Nate Marshall came with a conspiracy
Speaker 1: theory that that. He said, my mama told me that
Speaker 1: Timberland is owned by the k k K, the producer
Speaker 1: or the shoe company. The shoe company, Yeah, not the
Speaker 1: tim but Land is not currently being held captive by
Speaker 1: the clue klux Klan. I don't know. He did like
Speaker 1: a one direction song. It went nuts at the end there.
Speaker 1: That's fair. He's had some problematic points in his career
Speaker 1: and maybe this was like the KKK nudgeing and being like, boy,
Speaker 1: you're making too much heat. We need you to drive
Speaker 1: back a little bit. We need you to get buff,
Speaker 1: and we need you to chill out. Oh man, I
Speaker 1: hate when a rapper gets buffed and stand it. I
Speaker 1: can't stand it, truly. Some of the greatest have gotten
Speaker 1: buff and it's ruined everything I liked about them. Nobody
Speaker 1: likes you better, yeah, no one. No one was like,
Speaker 1: you know, what Buster of Rhymes needs is bigger, Yeah,
Speaker 1: to not be able to touch his toes and kick
Speaker 1: his legs. Anymore. He looks like it just hard for
Speaker 1: him to move. Yeah, he's just so fucking stiff now.
Speaker 1: And he used to be able to like jump on
Speaker 1: walls and ship. I don't think he's got that anymore.
Speaker 1: He was so fucking fun and now he's just buffing.
Speaker 1: It's and weird. Uh, he doesn't look fun all anymore. No,
Speaker 1: and Timberland's the same thing. It's just like you were
Speaker 1: a silly billy man. Just stay a silly billy. You
Speaker 1: were out there in Virginia, hanging out with a guy
Speaker 1: named Magoo. Now you're buff. Come on, man, come on,
Speaker 1: I bet you Magoo wasn't for it. Oh, this is
Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory. I bet you Magoo was not for it.
Speaker 1: I love this that. The reason that they no longer
Speaker 1: worked together is because Timberland came to him one day
Speaker 1: and was like, Magoo, I'm gonna start getting buff, and
Speaker 1: Magoo said no, Timberland, No, Remember you had that high voice.
Speaker 1: It was so Also when also when at Madonna, weirdly,
Speaker 1: that was always strange to me. Oh remember that on
Speaker 1: up Jumps a Boogie, Yeah, up in the he said
Speaker 1: a lot. He said a lot of things on that song.
Speaker 1: But he said, no fan of Madonna, She's just a
Speaker 1: damn slut. Didn't fit with the rest of the tone
Speaker 1: of the song. I felt, this is a magoo line.
Speaker 1: That's a that's he says, Yo. It was crazy. He
Speaker 1: says up in the cut like gay Niggason, but no
Speaker 1: fan of Madonna, She's just a damn slut. I swear
Speaker 1: to god. That was the That was the line. That
Speaker 1: was the pair of bars that he was like Garden.
Speaker 1: It was crazy. He sat down and wrote that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see why they cut him out of the camp.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't have that. You can't you can't
Speaker 1: be talking like that man that Timberland didn't have good
Speaker 1: vision for his body, but he had good vision for
Speaker 1: his career. He knew was like, I could keep hanging
Speaker 1: out with this dude who's gonna shoot on gay people
Speaker 1: in Madonna? Was I completely forgot the conspiracy we were
Speaker 1: talking about. Our remind you it was that Timberland Shoe
Speaker 1: Company is owned by the KKK. Now, what I should
Speaker 1: tell you is that part of where this conspiracy theory
Speaker 1: comes from is that the tree on the shoe is
Speaker 1: believed to UH or at least there were theories that
Speaker 1: the tree on the shoe that is part of the
Speaker 1: Timberland em bloom is believed to have a noose hanging
Speaker 1: from it. Okay, I gotta google this. Yeah, no, look
Speaker 1: it up. It's it's there's a there's there's a little
Speaker 1: bit of an argument here. I've never had a pair
Speaker 1: of Timberlands because I'm from the West Coast for real.
Speaker 1: Oh ship, Yeah is there? I can't tell. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: part of what they argue is that like it's some
Speaker 1: ship that you really got to like study. Okay, and
Speaker 1: and that is there. But but now they're like marketing
Speaker 1: towards black people, right, well that was the original. Some
Speaker 1: of what we discovered in this episode is that they
Speaker 1: did not originally market towards black people, and in fact
Speaker 1: pushed back pretty hard when the the shifts started to happen.
Speaker 1: They were a working class boot for working class white men,
Speaker 1: and then it started to shift into hip hop culture,
Speaker 1: and at one point statements were made where they were like, hey,
Speaker 1: this isn't really what we were aiming for, and then
Speaker 1: they had to retract those statements and fully become like
Speaker 1: the Nigga shoe brand, but working class what they always expensive, No,
Speaker 1: I mean expensive in the sense that like they were,
Speaker 1: they were expensive for a workman's boot, but you were
Speaker 1: meant to like buy a pair of Timberland's and keep
Speaker 1: them forever and always. That was their big argument, was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're investing a hundred and fifty dollars in these bad boys,
Speaker 1: but these this is like your forever shoe. And it
Speaker 1: wasn't until hip hop sort of introduced its relationship with
Speaker 1: them that they started going, well, you're gonna need a
Speaker 1: new pair of Tims every year because because they get
Speaker 1: scuffed and they don't look good no more. I see.
Speaker 1: I always felt like if I got Tims, get the
Speaker 1: beef and broccolis, because they would hide dirt better. M hm.
Speaker 1: But so here's why I don't believe this conspiracy theory. Okay,
Speaker 1: tell me more. Timberland, not just as a company but
Speaker 1: as a product has helped out too many black people
Speaker 1: for it to have, like to for it to be
Speaker 1: run by something like the KFK. Almost said, the KFK,
Speaker 1: I'm connection is running Timberland. Like think about how many
Speaker 1: black men have gotten some Tims and then got laid
Speaker 1: or a deal or something like or just like we're
Speaker 1: able to stunt on people like it causes black people
Speaker 1: too much joy for me to think that they would
Speaker 1: want to be invested in that. Yeah, I think you're
Speaker 1: You're right to feel that way. What we discovered in
Speaker 1: the episode is that Timberland's actually owned by a family
Speaker 1: of Jewish people, and so they have they have no
Speaker 1: connection whatsoever to the to the KKK. Moreover, this conspiracy theory,
Speaker 1: similar to the first one we discussed, actually was a
Speaker 1: part of another Internet email chain of a poem that
Speaker 1: was supposedly written by Maya Angelou where she suggests that
Speaker 1: Timberland is owned by the KKK. But I assure you
Speaker 1: this poem was not written by Maya Angelou and could
Speaker 1: not have been written by anybody who has written poems before.
Speaker 1: I bet that she. Do you think she said Timberland before, right,
Speaker 1: Maya Angelo? Yeah? Huh do you think she ever? Because
Speaker 1: her voice was like I would love to just hear
Speaker 1: her say it, and we'll never get that chance. I
Speaker 1: wonder if she ever said it in private. I bet
Speaker 1: she said it before. Here's what I think might have happened.
Speaker 1: She was in poetic Justice, and there is some possibility
Speaker 1: that when she was hanging out with all those rapscallions
Speaker 1: on Poetic On the set of Poetic Justice, she mentioned, yeah,
Speaker 1: guy she was shown off to Guy Tori. I know Timberland.
Speaker 1: I've smoked jazz cigarettes Timberland, Timberland. The KKK owns Timberland,
Speaker 1: Guy Tori. Man, I would pay one thousand dollars to
Speaker 1: watch a conversation between may Angela and Guy Tori and
Speaker 1: then like Pop trying to get in, but she like
Speaker 1: won't let him talk and she's not interested in pop. No,
Speaker 1: she likes that darkkneat. Do you think to smashed respectfully?
Speaker 1: Oh so in this story, you're feeling like, oh, there's
Speaker 1: a sexual chemistry happening here. Yeah, that's why she's trying
Speaker 1: to relate. I thought that's what you were saying. No,
Speaker 1: I think I was just thinking that she was like
Speaker 1: personally fascinated with the the death of Guy Tori. But
Speaker 1: I love that You're like, but also she trying to
Speaker 1: suck on him. I didn't say it like that. She's
Speaker 1: one of the greatest poets our nation's ever trying to
Speaker 1: suck on it. Come on, man, don't bail on me at. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're right, I'm still in it. I'm still in it.
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, I think maybe she was trying to suck
Speaker 1: on it. You don't get old and stopped wanting to
Speaker 1: suck on it. I assume now you gotta you gotta
Speaker 1: do that till the day you die. You gotta want
Speaker 1: to suck on it till the day you die. Then
Speaker 1: we miss you, Maya. Let's let's say that before we
Speaker 1: move on to our next when we miss I don't
Speaker 1: like that you called her Maya. It feels too familiar
Speaker 1: with that. It's two familiar, Miss Auntie Angelou. We missed
Speaker 1: you very much. I'm sorry for this whole last five minutes.
Speaker 1: It's not good and we didn't frankly, we'll have to
Speaker 1: cut it out. But but we had fun. I liked it.
Speaker 1: I mean I liked it. I it's complicated. Okay, here's
Speaker 1: a fun one that came from from but sheher salahudin
Speaker 1: shy Down. That's right. I'm I'm glad you knew. But
Speaker 1: Sheer came with a conspiracy theory that actually, uh put
Speaker 1: a spin on one that I thought I believed. But
Speaker 1: but Sheer said, my mama told me that rich people
Speaker 1: are investing in space exploration so that they can kick
Speaker 1: the poor people. Off of Earth. Oh that's backwards from
Speaker 1: what I thought. So they're not trying to escape themselves,
Speaker 1: they are trying to set it up so that they
Speaker 1: can get rid of us. That seems like too big
Speaker 1: of a project mmm to me, Like just like logistically,
Speaker 1: there's so many more poor people and the earth is
Speaker 1: already kind of like heading down. Yeah, that it seems
Speaker 1: to me like this is backwards. I like, like, I
Speaker 1: like that. I like it in theory, but I do
Speaker 1: think that, like that's just right, you know what I'm saying. No,
Speaker 1: the numbers feel off. I agree with you. But here's
Speaker 1: what piques my interest is that rich people don't leave
Speaker 1: where they are right that it is much harder for
Speaker 1: them to set up a new system and a a
Speaker 1: new hierarchy, a new functioning structure, because how will they
Speaker 1: still be rich And how would they still be rich
Speaker 1: if everybody is up there with them? How will they
Speaker 1: ensure that their resources don't get depleted? If you go
Speaker 1: to Mars, you are still outsourcing all of your materials
Speaker 1: and oxygen and all that ship, Like, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of fucking work that they're expecting to do. Whereas if
Speaker 1: they stay here and ask us to do it. The
Speaker 1: physical labor is available and they don't have to change
Speaker 1: their lifestyles at all. That makes sense. But also wouldn't
Speaker 1: they need some poor people to stay because they who
Speaker 1: would do all the work. And I think, I think
Speaker 1: to that point, he never specified that it's kicking all
Speaker 1: the poor people off of I think he's saying, like,
Speaker 1: we can kind of start to skim the extra bodies
Speaker 1: off the top, get rid of some folks, and still
Speaker 1: keep our laborers here to serve as as they need.
Speaker 1: I mean, I could, I I could believe that it's
Speaker 1: like it's like them busting all the homeless people to California. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's California is a nice place to live, but not
Speaker 1: if you got busted there by a bunch of people
Speaker 1: who don't are about you. Yeah, but it's better than Milwaukee.
Speaker 1: It's better than Milwaukee, you know what. Objectively, even if
Speaker 1: you know everybody in Milwaukee, California is better than Milwaukee.
Speaker 1: I think everybody in both places would agree. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: don't think anybody in Milwaukee's like this fucking guy. He
Speaker 1: doesn't know what we got going here in Milwaukee. We
Speaker 1: got a waterfront, we got two breweries here in Milwaukee
Speaker 1: here in Milwaukee. Uh yeah, I'm I'm for this one.
Speaker 1: I think I think I think I get it because
Speaker 1: I think it was like also if you did it
Speaker 1: on some slow ship, Like, it's not all gonna happen tomorrow, right,
Speaker 1: it's like a it's like a generational plan. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: not gonna put all of us out at once. I
Speaker 1: think it's more of like picking and choosing who can
Speaker 1: go at one time and then suddenly convincing a bunch
Speaker 1: of people to join them, either willingly or unwillingly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that was solid. I think that a good one.
Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you this, where do you
Speaker 1: land in the uh in in the space exploration of
Speaker 1: it all? Are you willing to go to space? No?
Speaker 1: Not at all, not even a little bit. Man, tell
Speaker 1: me why what bro Like? Yeah, it could be great,
Speaker 1: but it could be asked and then I'm just out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean. Like the risk doesn't
Speaker 1: seem worth the reward. I'm not like that. I'm not like,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not that adventurous man. There's a bunch
Speaker 1: of places in the and then there's places in America.
Speaker 1: I haven't been the funk I gotta go to space,
Speaker 1: go to the Florida Keys. So to your point there,
Speaker 1: there's plenty of exploration you could do here that doesn't
Speaker 1: require any space navigation of any kind. Yeah, I space
Speaker 1: is interesting or whatever. I have no wanter need to
Speaker 1: go see it. I respect that that that makes that
Speaker 1: that lands about where I'm mat with it. Like the
Speaker 1: reality is like I ain't gonna get to see all
Speaker 1: of Earth even even if I stopped doing this now
Speaker 1: and just started exploring. And there's enough resources to figure
Speaker 1: out here that I don't got to be up on
Speaker 1: the moon or nothing. Bro. I lived in Los Angeles
Speaker 1: for like six years. I've been to the West Side
Speaker 1: seven times, like, and it's scary over there sometimes. Man,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of a lot of weird coffee shops
Speaker 1: I don't understand. Yeah, So it's like, yeah, no, I'm
Speaker 1: not for it, but yeah, I do believe in this conspiracy.
Speaker 1: Here's an amazing one. This is one of my favorites
Speaker 1: that came to us from the Lucas Bros. The Lucas
Speaker 1: Brothers New Jersey, New Jersey. That's their Jersey boys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Lucas Bros. Actually came with a conspiracy where they said,
Speaker 1: my mama told old me that the Brandy curse is
Speaker 1: real vs op or I want to be down. We're talking,
Speaker 1: I want to be down. But I do think if
Speaker 1: you drink enough Brandy, you you curse yourself in a
Speaker 1: different way. For if you're drink enough Brandy, you want
Speaker 1: to be down. You want to be down and you're
Speaker 1: not getting back up? Baby? What is the Brandy curse? Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm so happy you asked that. The Brandy curse is
Speaker 1: a debate that has long stood online of every actor
Speaker 1: on on Brandy on the show, Moitia actually being cursed
Speaker 1: with death that like all people in all things close
Speaker 1: to Brandy eventually die and die and sort of like
Speaker 1: unfortunate or or terrifying circumstances. Is this because Hakim died.
Speaker 1: It's not just Hakim, but yes, he is a major fact.
Speaker 1: They're here, but Hakim has died. Merlin Santana died, the
Speaker 1: dude who Hog that's right, Adele Dale whatever her name was, yeah,
Speaker 1: died and Dale that was her name. Bernie Mack died,
Speaker 1: who was also Uncle Bernie on the show. Then, on
Speaker 1: top of that, as you may well know, Moish Brandy
Speaker 1: has also killed multiple people in a car accident that
Speaker 1: was not her fault. It wasn't her fault, but in
Speaker 1: a car crash, two people died out a result of
Speaker 1: of being close to her. And then there's some other
Speaker 1: sort of like looser examples of people who being close
Speaker 1: in proximity to Brandy have suffered various kinds of curses
Speaker 1: or sort of like down faults in their lives. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing, though, Shirley Ralph ain't going, Monique ain't going well,
Speaker 1: frediro Star ain't going with us, baby, all mainstays on
Speaker 1: the Mosha platform. Ray J gonna be two that thriving
Speaker 1: doing Wow, he should not he shouldn't be doing anything,
Speaker 1: but he's fucking thing by all accounts, should have been dead.
Speaker 1: Like there's too many I get that. A lot of people.
Speaker 1: I think that listen. I think that Brandy sucks. I
Speaker 1: think they would go back to what I like the music.
Speaker 1: I think if you go back and watch that show
Speaker 1: Mosha kind of a bit, bro, when was the last
Speaker 1: time you watched it. I haven't watched Moisia sometime. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: go back and watch Moisha. She's a bit damn. Was
Speaker 1: she just a bad friend? What was She's just like
Speaker 1: She's always making fun of Kim for being fat. She's
Speaker 1: like super mean too, d who's just trying to help
Speaker 1: her out, Like her dad bought her a Saturn for
Speaker 1: her birthday and this bitch said no, that's not my
Speaker 1: style and made him take it back. And she was like,
Speaker 1: I guess save up for a jeep. Funk out of here.
Speaker 1: You got a free car. I didn't like get a car.
Speaker 1: My first car was six dollars. I was like three,
Speaker 1: Like I just don't. I don't well, I'm starting to
Speaker 1: hate our guts just off deep dive she was. It
Speaker 1: was like, yo, you watch that show and it's like
Speaker 1: crazy where you're like, I can't even believe this got through,
Speaker 1: Like nobody. I feel like the writer's room. That's who
Speaker 1: we need to get because somebody from that writer's room,
Speaker 1: because I feel like the writer's room. They peeped it
Speaker 1: and they were like, you know what, Brandy's kind of
Speaker 1: a bit. Let's just make the show about her being
Speaker 1: kind of a bit. So they you're saying, if I'm
Speaker 1: understanding you correctly, that Brandy was giving negative vibes to
Speaker 1: them during the creation of the show, and they subsequently
Speaker 1: punished her through through the writing, Mosia is not a
Speaker 1: super likable character like she always does the mean this
Speaker 1: rudest thing. First, Wow, I gotta go back, you gotta
Speaker 1: go back. It's on Netflix right now. Shout out to
Speaker 1: Shout out to ray J, though I don't want him
Speaker 1: to feel like I don't want this to funk up
Speaker 1: our relationship. Yeah, you don't want to get on ray
Speaker 1: J's bad side. He's a man who will send people
Speaker 1: to sex you in the butt. According to he will
Speaker 1: get his sneakers who like his ownly mission. He will
Speaker 1: pay people to come fuck you in the bootio. Because
Speaker 1: I guess he's upset with you, I'm not really sure.
Speaker 1: For those of you that are unfamiliar, I don't want
Speaker 1: you holding me accountable for me being uh not having taste.
Speaker 1: This is truly something ray J said on the Breakfast
Speaker 1: Clubs That interview in reference to Fabulous, who has come
Speaker 1: up twice in this episode. Now, but he was very
Speaker 1: upset with Fabulous, who made fun of him for playing
Speaker 1: a piano at Floyd Mayweather's house, and then he threatened
Speaker 1: to have Fabulous uh both murdered and sex in the butt.
Speaker 1: I don't know the order. I don't know you gotta
Speaker 1: hope for murder. Second. Right, if you just for the
Speaker 1: morality of the humans connected to this, you gotta hope
Speaker 1: for murder. Second. I think in for a penny, in
Speaker 1: for a pound. If you're willing to do both for money,
Speaker 1: it's like, whatever, all right, I guess I can happen
Speaker 1: on accent. Remember we yeah, and that's not good. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's good. That's not I'm not like
Speaker 1: saying we pay as a hero. I'm just saying that
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm saying. Actually, this is going
Speaker 1: that and that's sort of my point here. This really
Speaker 1: went off the rails. But the point is there are
Speaker 1: some who believe that Brandy and Moesia, specifically the Moesha program,
Speaker 1: but Brandy as an entity, is cursed and curses all
Speaker 1: those that are close to her. You seem like you're
Speaker 1: not buying it. I'm not for it. I just I
Speaker 1: feel like the people who have survived on that show
Speaker 1: have not only survived, but thrived. Shoutout to Abbott, Elementary, serreleye, Ralph.
Speaker 1: I mean, she looks she looks the same age that
Speaker 1: she did on Moesia. It's amazing. We need to get
Speaker 1: her on she does. Yeah, no, listen, if she ever
Speaker 1: is not busy again in the future, boy, would we
Speaker 1: love to have her just to talk to Serre Lee
Speaker 1: Ralph and not trying not to say something weird. That
Speaker 1: would everything. I probably wouldn't say a lot. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think you can. I would definitely have jewelry on them.
Speaker 1: I would not come in the way that I come
Speaker 1: in usually some kind of a i'd wear. I'd be
Speaker 1: wearing purple, for sure. I get that. You gotta he
Speaker 1: got to come in with a sort of royal energy
Speaker 1: and hope that she can she can see that on
Speaker 1: you some type of Maybe I'll make some type of
Speaker 1: gloves out of a ground royal bag or something or
Speaker 1: something or something freestylent. I'll look at I'll look at
Speaker 1: the latest g qu I'll get some ideas. Listen, you'll
Speaker 1: you'll get some ideas. I want us to to leave
Speaker 1: on a fun one. And and this is a really
Speaker 1: fascinating one that I I'd love to hear your thoughts on.
Speaker 1: It actually comes from us, comes to us from a
Speaker 1: person who I bet you'll know where he's from from,
Speaker 1: a gentleman named Troy Walker. Troy Walker mile high till
Speaker 1: I died, baby, not even going to side what appen?
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, you know where he's from. But Troy Walker
Speaker 1: came with a conspiracy theory that I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: ever gonna get over enjoying. But he said, my mama
Speaker 1: told me that slavery was faked and black people were
Speaker 1: already in America. First of all, known Troy shout Detroit.
Speaker 1: We just went and got a stick dinner. He got
Speaker 1: too drunk to walk homes out. It's like a week ago.
Speaker 1: Let's just say, Okay, my mama told me that black
Speaker 1: people were already in America and slavery was not real.
Speaker 1: Slavery was fake. There was no actual slavery, is the argument.
Speaker 1: So he's not saying that like he's said. Does he
Speaker 1: mean like slavery like the Triangle trade wasn't real, like
Speaker 1: they from Africa? They were just all here. So part
Speaker 1: of where this comes from is that a bunch of
Speaker 1: people have started asking online why don't we have any
Speaker 1: slave ships? If slavery was such a big deal and
Speaker 1: so many people were transferred to America over so many years,
Speaker 1: why do we never see any old slave ships? And
Speaker 1: to that question, why don't you see any old East
Speaker 1: India t Trading company ships. Why don't ships like ships
Speaker 1: they become different things. Yeah, I think you're ahead of
Speaker 1: the game already on what we landed on. But I
Speaker 1: do think that that ultimately was the question sort of
Speaker 1: being presented. And there are a bunch of people online
Speaker 1: that go, ain't no slave ships, meaning there were no slaves.
Speaker 1: Black people were already here. We just got a scammering
Speaker 1: on us, which kept us sort of like in this
Speaker 1: position of servitude. That's for stupid people to think, what
Speaker 1: are you talking about. It's like heavily documented. It's heavily
Speaker 1: documented in Africa. It's heavily documented in the Caribbean. It
Speaker 1: was a system. It's heavily documented in the America's bro,
Speaker 1: here's the thing, man, we need to quit thinking that
Speaker 1: people are working that hard to trick us. Yeah, you understand.
Speaker 1: It gives a lot of credit to the white man
Speaker 1: of being like a mastermind in a way that that
Speaker 1: I don't like. Yeah, it's like maybe they were just
Speaker 1: kind of bad people and they thought they could buy
Speaker 1: and so people they are not thinking about us enough
Speaker 1: to construct some type of crazy elaborate Yeah like that,
Speaker 1: because that wouldn't that wouldn't have helped them. Like that's
Speaker 1: how we got rich, baby is free labor. America doesn't
Speaker 1: get as rich as America got without free labor. Like
Speaker 1: the whole reason we are where we are now is
Speaker 1: because of black people working for free So it's like
Speaker 1: you can't really like you can't cut that part out
Speaker 1: of American history and still have like us be where
Speaker 1: we're at. And I think, I think I will say
Speaker 1: that part of what the argument is, if I'm understanding
Speaker 1: it correctly, is that it wasn't. They're they're arguing that
Speaker 1: the free labor does still exist, it just wasn't under
Speaker 1: the the context and circumstances that we understand it to be.
Speaker 1: If that makes sense, that we were not captives but
Speaker 1: in fact just living here and then forced into free
Speaker 1: labor in a different way. But maybe they're not. And
Speaker 1: if slavery is people because you know why Africans called
Speaker 1: the Dark Continent is because the coastline is so difficult
Speaker 1: to sail out of m That's like, that's like a
Speaker 1: big part of why Africa is the way it is.
Speaker 1: That's why there's not a ton of ports city, Like
Speaker 1: it's difficult to sail out of So Africans, weren't like
Speaker 1: exploring like that, like, because it would have still been
Speaker 1: the same people, right, it would have been West Africans.
Speaker 1: I assume if they if they came by boat. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: if they didn't come by boat, how else would it? Like,
Speaker 1: I just that doesn't I don't think that gives credit
Speaker 1: to black history. Like I I think that's stupid. I
Speaker 1: think it's tone. Yeah, you're you're real mad at this one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're raging because it's like as bad as slavery is,
Speaker 1: you have to acknowledge it in what it did to
Speaker 1: set this country up the way that it did. So
Speaker 1: to be like we were just here and then they
Speaker 1: pulled a trick on it. It doesn't give any credit
Speaker 1: two black people's role in making this place great. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, I think it's like, I think it's
Speaker 1: very dismissive and black people. You have to have a
Speaker 1: way that we got here. It's very undermining almost in
Speaker 1: into everybody involved except for the white man, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like everybody else is just a
Speaker 1: big old dumb dumb. But the white man, he could
Speaker 1: he could write any story and we'll believe it because
Speaker 1: he's so smart. Yeah, and why didn't they do that
Speaker 1: with the Native Americans? Then? M M, I'm saying that's right. Also, like,
Speaker 1: what is there because we know they were here? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like that one. I think that
Speaker 1: one's bad. I don't. I'll go so far as to say,
Speaker 1: I don't think Troy's mom told him that. I think he.
Speaker 1: I think he googled it. Yeah, you google this, Troy,
Speaker 1: And and you know what, Troy, fuck you, fucking Troy
Speaker 1: for wasting our goddamn time a second time around with
Speaker 1: your stupid conspiracy theory. Yeah, but also shout out, yeah,
Speaker 1: we got a big steak the other day. Enjoy your steak,
Speaker 1: you drunk idiot, And no more conspiracy theories for you, Troy.
Speaker 1: All those fruity drinks, I mean drinks, I don't mean
Speaker 1: drinks that were fruit filled. I don't. I'm sorry, but
Speaker 1: what Troy, do you remember what his go to drink was?
Speaker 1: It was like they were He was just like, because
Speaker 1: Troy has have been drinking that long, So he's like,
Speaker 1: if I want something sweet, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: got you. He had like three and he kept saying,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. These drinks are working. And I
Speaker 1: know Troy alright, big dog. They take it easy on
Speaker 1: those Amorado sours. You're gonna you're gonna start to feel
Speaker 1: your knees a little differently. Yeah, he was leaning. He
Speaker 1: was leaning, but shout out, shout out Troy, shout out Troy,
Speaker 1: Fuck you Troy. And uh and I think we did it.
Speaker 1: I think this is this is a successful recapping of
Speaker 1: of some of our our most classic episodes. I feel
Speaker 1: pretty strongly, Yeah, no, you performed well and uh and
Speaker 1: I feel good about what we did. And hopefully you
Speaker 1: at home feel the same. Except for the Maya Angelo thing.
Speaker 1: And you haven't shipped yourself yet. Oh you're You're almost
Speaker 1: done with your coffee. You'll get there. I want everybody
Speaker 1: know it's a Starbucks. Yes, the boy goes to Starbucks.
Speaker 1: Now he's he's a different person than he was previously.
Speaker 1: No big deal. I got Martin DVDs. I go to Starbucks.
Speaker 1: That's my life now, David. Could you tell the people
Speaker 1: at home where they could find you what cool ship
Speaker 1: you have going on? You can find me on Instagram
Speaker 1: at cool guy jokes. Sadie seven, you should come out
Speaker 1: on September fifteen in Los Angeles. I'm doing a show
Speaker 1: at the Allusion. Langston is doing one tonight. But this
Speaker 1: podcast is coming out too late, that's right. I I
Speaker 1: am bad at promoing. But you should go see David
Speaker 1: at the Allusion on September fift Oh. You should also
Speaker 1: see Langston Kerman at Faded Comedy, Denver at the date
Speaker 1: that we had agreed upon, which I know somewhere is recorded,
Speaker 1: but I don't know off the top of my head.
Speaker 1: Right now, I believe it is the third Friday in October.
Speaker 1: Third Friday in October sounds correct to me. The two. Yes,
Speaker 1: it is Langston Kerman Faded Comedy, Denver. We got a
Speaker 1: step and repeat. We got dark liquor, we got light liquor.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about the Brandy Cruz. Come get that teletic
Speaker 1: Kili curse. Yeah, she I think is like an anti Baxter.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, come to come to come
Speaker 1: to those things. Look on my Instagram. I'm around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she actually is a a Nazi. Now if that it's
Speaker 1: way worse than uh, she isn't not. Yeah, she doesn't
Speaker 1: know though she has no glue. Uh. And it was
Speaker 1: gonna tell her, you know, I'm not. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: tell her, but but please follow David and come see
Speaker 1: him at the Allegian or any of his upcoming shows.
Speaker 1: And uh, similarly, you can see me at the Allegian
Speaker 1: a couple more times, I believe, the the seven, and
Speaker 1: the twenty ninth. Right now of August, I'll be back
Speaker 1: at the Allegian performing an hour. So if you're you're
Speaker 1: in the Los Angeles area, come there and otherwise just
Speaker 1: keep a lookout for other days. You can follow me
Speaker 1: at Langston Kerman dot or Langston Kerman dot com. You can,
Speaker 1: I guess I don't do shit on there, but uh, anyway,
Speaker 1: if you want to send us your own drops, your
Speaker 1: own conspiracy theories, if you want to add to the
Speaker 1: one hundred episodes two hundred episodes of of of Mania
Speaker 1: that we've experienced here at least a hundred and thirty two,
Speaker 1: like Martin, then uh, you can send them to my
Speaker 1: Mama pod at gmail dot com. We would love to
Speaker 1: hear from you. Otherwise, that's it. Bye, bitch, my crop
Speaker 1: chips in your quals, racist, the whole schools, Marney Attorney stuff.
Speaker 1: I can't tell me