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Speaker 1: Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me,

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Speaker 1: the podcast where we dive deep, deep into the pockets

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Speaker 1: of black conspiracy theories and we finally work to prove

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Speaker 1: that if you cut open the keyloid on the back

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Speaker 1: of your host Langston Kerman, and I'm David. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: we're we're here. We're here, David celebrating our one hundredth episode.

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Speaker 1: This is the one hundred epithede at one hundredth episode

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Speaker 1: It just doesn't work, man, Right, It's just it's not enough. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: more of a type of pretension that's kept you unhexed

420
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: more than not wanting the spaghetti of a stranger right

421
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: right right, right right right. But you know that being said,

422
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: if you you know, if you're out there age appropriate,

423
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: got a good job, you can COUCHI couci spaghetti trapped me.

424
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm open, you know what I mean. I got health insurance,

425
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: I'm a small business owner. I got a few credit cards.

426
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: Give my man your couchie curse. He's available for couching

427
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: curses and uh and titty tricks as well, whatever whatever

428
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: comes to mind. Yeah, all sort of down bottom trickery.

429
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm I'm for it. Put some breast milk in this cereal.

430
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens. Yeah, who knows. Maybe that one though,

431
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: So you're you're feeling good about that one as a

432
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: as a potential real curse that we're all facing. I

433
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: think that's real. I think that's that seems like some

434
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: weird ship. Yeah, okay, I like this. I like that

435
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: we're heading towards that direction. This is a fun one

436
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: that that came from our our former guest Naomi a Paragon.

437
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: Very funny, And Naomi, this is New York City, New

438
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: York City, that's right? Do you know which do you

439
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: know which borrow? You know which section of New York?

440
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: My eyes are getting weary back from Quen. Damn, damn.

441
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: I think he's a Harlem native if I'm not mistaken.

442
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: Midnight at the Old Paces. There you go. Yeah, I

443
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: did the New York though. That was pretty good. I

444
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: think now you nailed it, Naomi a Paragan said, my

445
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: mama told me that white people don't get cold to

446
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: a degree. Yes, this is what is true. Yeah, it's

447
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: it's We actually did a bunch of research for this

448
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: one and found out that there's a fair amount of

449
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: legitimacy to this conspiracy theory. Yeah, I've seen them go

450
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: nuts in the snow. What do you mean? Yeah, he's

451
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: just like I've been like driving down the road before

452
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: in the snow and seemed like a white guy with

453
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: no shirt on or like you know what I mean.

454
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: I've been like at the grocery store in a blizzard

455
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: and some dude walks in and shorts like all that

456
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Like I've seen that stuff, and you're

457
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: you're a denver native. You've spent a lot of time

458
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: in a very cold atmosphere with a lot of primarily

459
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: white people. I imagine you've seen them at their most

460
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: drink don't drink cold beer in a garage if it's

461
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: snow and outside. Jesus Christ, I know. So this one

462
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: isn't even I don't even think we have to go deep.

463
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: This one is. This isn't even a conspiracy. That's a fact.

464
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: That's like we all knew that. Yeah, No, I think

465
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: it's pretty legit. I I do wonder how often these

466
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: stereotypes are making their way back to white people in

467
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: a way that like that they're hearing that black people

468
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: or anybody else is saying these things about them, and

469
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: does that then make them go, hey, maybe we should

470
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: work on that, Maybe we should uh not not do

471
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: that anymore. If there's one thing I've learned about white

472
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: people is that they don't do that. So not a

473
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: particularly reflective bunch. No, And that's not even and that's

474
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: not even a that one's not good or bad, right,

475
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: it's just like no, And frankly, I think it's better

476
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: for them given the environments that they often trekking. I

477
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: think it's it's it's it's certainly a safety net of sorts.

478
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: I will say I had I had my water either

479
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: went out for a couple of weeks, so I was

480
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: just raw dogging these cold showers. It's if it makes

481
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: you feel good after this. The shower is not plug it,

482
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: but the way you feel after it's very good. Ah.

483
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: Even now, I finished all my showers with a cold blast. Really,

484
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: oh shit, no, thank you. I'll miss out on that

485
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: opportunity one time. You don't have to shower in the cold,

486
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: just like end it with the cold blast to get

487
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: your whole body cold and then get out. Damn, that's hoof.

488
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: That's gonna be tough for me. I'm a real I'm

489
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: a real hot shower man myself. But even in the summer,

490
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: even in the summer, I'll sometimes I go out and

491
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: exercise and then I come back in and I take

492
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: a shower and I'm still sweating after the shower, and

493
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: I need that cold blast anything. But I'm too much

494
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: of a coward to heave. And no, you gotta do it,

495
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: because that double sweating thing is the world. I call

496
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: that double jeopardy. It's the worst field because then you're like,

497
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: why did I even take the shower. Yeah, this is

498
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: a complete waste of a shower. No. Yeah, now I'm

499
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: just double what damn? All right, so I got I

500
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: gotta welcome cold showers into my life. And white people

501
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: you can just keep doing you baby, no notes, you're

502
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: killing it. Yeah, maybe try putting some coucie juice in

503
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: this the cast roll or whatever does you make. Yeah,

504
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: you're tuna fish cast roll. Putt a little put a

505
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: little pussy juice in there. You can heck somebody like

506
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: black people do the spaghetti. All right. Here's a fun

507
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: one that comes from from my friend Mr Nate Marshall.

508
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: Nate Marshall is a very talented poet that I know.

509
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: But Nate Marshall came with a conspiracy. Do uh that's okay.

510
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: I'll give you some context clues. Same place as me. Chicago,

511
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: Chicago babies and done, Wendy City. Let me let me

512
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: get up, let me get a beef. And I was,

513
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: let me get a beef. Isn't that what you guys

514
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: do out there? Yeah? I think we've been watching one

515
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: television program in particular and decided that that was the

516
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: entire city's personality. But hell yeah, that I've heard it

517
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: said behind chef, I've seen some other's stuff. I knew

518
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: that that was a Chicago show, I know, but I

519
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: know about your place. Nate Marshall came with a conspiracy

520
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: theory that that. He said, my mama told me that

521
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: Timberland is owned by the k k K, the producer

522
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: or the shoe company. The shoe company, Yeah, not the

523
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: tim but Land is not currently being held captive by

524
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: the clue klux Klan. I don't know. He did like

525
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: a one direction song. It went nuts at the end there.

526
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: That's fair. He's had some problematic points in his career

527
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: and maybe this was like the KKK nudgeing and being like, boy,

528
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: you're making too much heat. We need you to drive

529
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,959
Speaker 1: back a little bit. We need you to get buff,

530
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: and we need you to chill out. Oh man, I

531
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: hate when a rapper gets buffed and stand it. I

532
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: can't stand it, truly. Some of the greatest have gotten

533
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: buff and it's ruined everything I liked about them. Nobody

534
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: likes you better, yeah, no one. No one was like,

535
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, what Buster of Rhymes needs is bigger, Yeah,

536
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 1: to not be able to touch his toes and kick

537
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: his legs. Anymore. He looks like it just hard for

538
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: him to move. Yeah, he's just so fucking stiff now.

539
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: And he used to be able to like jump on

540
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: walls and ship. I don't think he's got that anymore.

541
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 1: He was so fucking fun and now he's just buffing.

542
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: It's and weird. Uh, he doesn't look fun all anymore. No,

543
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: and Timberland's the same thing. It's just like you were

544
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: a silly billy man. Just stay a silly billy. You

545
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: were out there in Virginia, hanging out with a guy

546
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: named Magoo. Now you're buff. Come on, man, come on,

547
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: I bet you Magoo wasn't for it. Oh, this is

548
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory. I bet you Magoo was not for it.

549
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: I love this that. The reason that they no longer

550
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: worked together is because Timberland came to him one day

551
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: and was like, Magoo, I'm gonna start getting buff, and

552
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: Magoo said no, Timberland, No, Remember you had that high voice.

553
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 1: It was so Also when also when at Madonna, weirdly,

554
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: that was always strange to me. Oh remember that on

555
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: up Jumps a Boogie, Yeah, up in the he said

556
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: a lot. He said a lot of things on that song.

557
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: But he said, no fan of Madonna, She's just a

558
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: damn slut. Didn't fit with the rest of the tone

559
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: of the song. I felt, this is a magoo line.

560
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: That's a that's he says, Yo. It was crazy. He

561
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: says up in the cut like gay Niggason, but no

562
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,479
Speaker 1: fan of Madonna, She's just a damn slut. I swear

563
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: to god. That was the That was the line. That

564
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: was the pair of bars that he was like Garden.

565
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 1: It was crazy. He sat down and wrote that, Yeah,

566
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: I see why they cut him out of the camp.

567
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: You know, you can't have that. You can't you can't

568
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: be talking like that man that Timberland didn't have good

569
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: vision for his body, but he had good vision for

570
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: his career. He knew was like, I could keep hanging

571
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: out with this dude who's gonna shoot on gay people

572
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: in Madonna? Was I completely forgot the conspiracy we were

573
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: talking about. Our remind you it was that Timberland Shoe

574
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: Company is owned by the KKK. Now, what I should

575
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: tell you is that part of where this conspiracy theory

576
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: comes from is that the tree on the shoe is

577
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: believed to UH or at least there were theories that

578
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: the tree on the shoe that is part of the

579
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: Timberland em bloom is believed to have a noose hanging

580
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: from it. Okay, I gotta google this. Yeah, no, look

581
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: it up. It's it's there's a there's there's a little

582
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: bit of an argument here. I've never had a pair

583
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 1: of Timberlands because I'm from the West Coast for real.

584
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: Oh ship, Yeah is there? I can't tell. Yeah, that's

585
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: part of what they argue is that like it's some

586
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: ship that you really got to like study. Okay, and

587
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: and that is there. But but now they're like marketing

588
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: towards black people, right, well that was the original. Some

589
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: of what we discovered in this episode is that they

590
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: did not originally market towards black people, and in fact

591
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: pushed back pretty hard when the the shifts started to happen.

592
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 1: They were a working class boot for working class white men,

593
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: and then it started to shift into hip hop culture,

594
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: and at one point statements were made where they were like, hey,

595
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: this isn't really what we were aiming for, and then

596
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: they had to retract those statements and fully become like

597
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: the Nigga shoe brand, but working class what they always expensive, No,

598
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: I mean expensive in the sense that like they were,

599
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: they were expensive for a workman's boot, but you were

600
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: meant to like buy a pair of Timberland's and keep

601
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: them forever and always. That was their big argument, was like, yeah,

602
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: you're investing a hundred and fifty dollars in these bad boys,

603
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: but these this is like your forever shoe. And it

604
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: wasn't until hip hop sort of introduced its relationship with

605
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: them that they started going, well, you're gonna need a

606
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: new pair of Tims every year because because they get

607
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: scuffed and they don't look good no more. I see.

608
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: I always felt like if I got Tims, get the

609
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: beef and broccolis, because they would hide dirt better. M hm.

610
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 1: But so here's why I don't believe this conspiracy theory. Okay,

611
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: tell me more. Timberland, not just as a company but

612
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: as a product has helped out too many black people

613
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: for it to have, like to for it to be

614
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: run by something like the KFK. Almost said, the KFK,

615
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm connection is running Timberland. Like think about how many

616
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: black men have gotten some Tims and then got laid

617
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: or a deal or something like or just like we're

618
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: able to stunt on people like it causes black people

619
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,479
Speaker 1: too much joy for me to think that they would

620
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: want to be invested in that. Yeah, I think you're

621
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: You're right to feel that way. What we discovered in

622
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: the episode is that Timberland's actually owned by a family

623
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: of Jewish people, and so they have they have no

624
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: connection whatsoever to the to the KKK. Moreover, this conspiracy theory,

625
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: similar to the first one we discussed, actually was a

626
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: part of another Internet email chain of a poem that

627
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: was supposedly written by Maya Angelou where she suggests that

628
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: Timberland is owned by the KKK. But I assure you

629
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 1: this poem was not written by Maya Angelou and could

630
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: not have been written by anybody who has written poems before.

631
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: I bet that she. Do you think she said Timberland before, right,

632
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: Maya Angelo? Yeah? Huh do you think she ever? Because

633
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: her voice was like I would love to just hear

634
00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: her say it, and we'll never get that chance. I

635
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 1: wonder if she ever said it in private. I bet

636
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: she said it before. Here's what I think might have happened.

637
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: She was in poetic Justice, and there is some possibility

638
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 1: that when she was hanging out with all those rapscallions

639
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 1: on Poetic On the set of Poetic Justice, she mentioned, yeah,

640
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: guy she was shown off to Guy Tori. I know Timberland.

641
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: I've smoked jazz cigarettes Timberland, Timberland. The KKK owns Timberland,

642
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: Guy Tori. Man, I would pay one thousand dollars to

643
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: watch a conversation between may Angela and Guy Tori and

644
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: then like Pop trying to get in, but she like

645
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: won't let him talk and she's not interested in pop. No,

646
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: she likes that darkkneat. Do you think to smashed respectfully?

647
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: Oh so in this story, you're feeling like, oh, there's

648
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: a sexual chemistry happening here. Yeah, that's why she's trying

649
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: to relate. I thought that's what you were saying. No,

650
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: I think I was just thinking that she was like

651
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: personally fascinated with the the death of Guy Tori. But

652
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: I love that You're like, but also she trying to

653
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: suck on him. I didn't say it like that. She's

654
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: one of the greatest poets our nation's ever trying to

655
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: suck on it. Come on, man, don't bail on me at. Okay,

656
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: you're right, I'm still in it. I'm still in it.

657
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, I think maybe she was trying to suck

658
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: on it. You don't get old and stopped wanting to

659
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: suck on it. I assume now you gotta you gotta

660
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: do that till the day you die. You gotta want

661
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: to suck on it till the day you die. Then

662
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: we miss you, Maya. Let's let's say that before we

663
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: move on to our next when we miss I don't

664
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: like that you called her Maya. It feels too familiar

665
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: with that. It's two familiar, Miss Auntie Angelou. We missed

666
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 1: you very much. I'm sorry for this whole last five minutes.

667
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 1: It's not good and we didn't frankly, we'll have to

668
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: cut it out. But but we had fun. I liked it.

669
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: I mean I liked it. I it's complicated. Okay, here's

670
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: a fun one that came from from but sheher salahudin

671
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: shy Down. That's right. I'm I'm glad you knew. But

672
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: Sheer came with a conspiracy theory that actually, uh put

673
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: a spin on one that I thought I believed. But

674
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: but Sheer said, my mama told me that rich people

675
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: are investing in space exploration so that they can kick

676
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: the poor people. Off of Earth. Oh that's backwards from

677
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: what I thought. So they're not trying to escape themselves,

678
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: they are trying to set it up so that they

679
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: can get rid of us. That seems like too big

680
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: of a project mmm to me, Like just like logistically,

681
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: there's so many more poor people and the earth is

682
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: already kind of like heading down. Yeah, that it seems

683
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: to me like this is backwards. I like, like, I

684
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: like that. I like it in theory, but I do

685
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: think that, like that's just right, you know what I'm saying. No,

686
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: the numbers feel off. I agree with you. But here's

687
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 1: what piques my interest is that rich people don't leave

688
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: where they are right that it is much harder for

689
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: them to set up a new system and a a

690
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: new hierarchy, a new functioning structure, because how will they

691
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: still be rich And how would they still be rich

692
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: if everybody is up there with them? How will they

693
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: ensure that their resources don't get depleted? If you go

694
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: to Mars, you are still outsourcing all of your materials

695
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: and oxygen and all that ship, Like, it's a lot

696
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: of fucking work that they're expecting to do. Whereas if

697
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: they stay here and ask us to do it. The

698
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: physical labor is available and they don't have to change

699
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: their lifestyles at all. That makes sense. But also wouldn't

700
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: they need some poor people to stay because they who

701
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: would do all the work. And I think, I think

702
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: to that point, he never specified that it's kicking all

703
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 1: the poor people off of I think he's saying, like,

704
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: we can kind of start to skim the extra bodies

705
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,479
Speaker 1: off the top, get rid of some folks, and still

706
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: keep our laborers here to serve as as they need.

707
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I could, I I could believe that it's

708
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: like it's like them busting all the homeless people to California. Yeah,

709
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: it's California is a nice place to live, but not

710
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: if you got busted there by a bunch of people

711
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 1: who don't are about you. Yeah, but it's better than Milwaukee.

712
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: It's better than Milwaukee, you know what. Objectively, even if

713
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: you know everybody in Milwaukee, California is better than Milwaukee.

714
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: I think everybody in both places would agree. Yeah. I

715
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: don't think anybody in Milwaukee's like this fucking guy. He

716
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: doesn't know what we got going here in Milwaukee. We

717
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: got a waterfront, we got two breweries here in Milwaukee

718
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: here in Milwaukee. Uh yeah, I'm I'm for this one.

719
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: I think I think I think I get it because

720
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: I think it was like also if you did it

721
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: on some slow ship, Like, it's not all gonna happen tomorrow, right,

722
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: it's like a it's like a generational plan. Yeah, they're

723
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: not gonna put all of us out at once. I

724
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: think it's more of like picking and choosing who can

725
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: go at one time and then suddenly convincing a bunch

726
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 1: of people to join them, either willingly or unwillingly. Yeah,

727
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: I think that was solid. I think that a good one.

728
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you this, where do you

729
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 1: land in the uh in in the space exploration of

730
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: it all? Are you willing to go to space? No?

731
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: Not at all, not even a little bit. Man, tell

732
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: me why what bro Like? Yeah, it could be great,

733
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: but it could be asked and then I'm just out there.

734
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean. Like the risk doesn't

735
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: seem worth the reward. I'm not like that. I'm not like,

736
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not that adventurous man. There's a bunch

737
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: of places in the and then there's places in America.

738
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 1: I haven't been the funk I gotta go to space,

739
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: go to the Florida Keys. So to your point there,

740
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 1: there's plenty of exploration you could do here that doesn't

741
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: require any space navigation of any kind. Yeah, I space

742
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: is interesting or whatever. I have no wanter need to

743
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: go see it. I respect that that that makes that

744
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: that lands about where I'm mat with it. Like the

745
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: reality is like I ain't gonna get to see all

746
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: of Earth even even if I stopped doing this now

747
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: and just started exploring. And there's enough resources to figure

748
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: out here that I don't got to be up on

749
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: the moon or nothing. Bro. I lived in Los Angeles

750
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 1: for like six years. I've been to the West Side

751
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: seven times, like, and it's scary over there sometimes. Man,

752
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: there's a lot of a lot of weird coffee shops

753
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: I don't understand. Yeah, So it's like, yeah, no, I'm

754
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: not for it, but yeah, I do believe in this conspiracy.

755
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: Here's an amazing one. This is one of my favorites

756
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: that came to us from the Lucas Bros. The Lucas

757
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 1: Brothers New Jersey, New Jersey. That's their Jersey boys. Yeah,

758
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: the Lucas Bros. Actually came with a conspiracy where they said,

759
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: my mama told old me that the Brandy curse is

760
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 1: real vs op or I want to be down. We're talking,

761
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: I want to be down. But I do think if

762
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: you drink enough Brandy, you you curse yourself in a

763
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: different way. For if you're drink enough Brandy, you want

764
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: to be down. You want to be down and you're

765
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: not getting back up? Baby? What is the Brandy curse? Oh,

766
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm so happy you asked that. The Brandy curse is

767
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: a debate that has long stood online of every actor

768
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: on on Brandy on the show, Moitia actually being cursed

769
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: with death that like all people in all things close

770
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: to Brandy eventually die and die and sort of like

771
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: unfortunate or or terrifying circumstances. Is this because Hakim died.

772
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: It's not just Hakim, but yes, he is a major fact.

773
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: They're here, but Hakim has died. Merlin Santana died, the

774
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 1: dude who Hog that's right, Adele Dale whatever her name was, yeah,

775
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: died and Dale that was her name. Bernie Mack died,

776
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: who was also Uncle Bernie on the show. Then, on

777
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: top of that, as you may well know, Moish Brandy

778
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: has also killed multiple people in a car accident that

779
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: was not her fault. It wasn't her fault, but in

780
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: a car crash, two people died out a result of

781
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: of being close to her. And then there's some other

782
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: sort of like looser examples of people who being close

783
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: in proximity to Brandy have suffered various kinds of curses

784
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: or sort of like down faults in their lives. Here's

785
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: the thing, though, Shirley Ralph ain't going, Monique ain't going well,

786
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: frediro Star ain't going with us, baby, all mainstays on

787
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: the Mosha platform. Ray J gonna be two that thriving

788
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 1: doing Wow, he should not he shouldn't be doing anything,

789
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: but he's fucking thing by all accounts, should have been dead.

790
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: Like there's too many I get that. A lot of people.

791
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: I think that listen. I think that Brandy sucks. I

792
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: think they would go back to what I like the music.

793
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: I think if you go back and watch that show

794
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: Mosha kind of a bit, bro, when was the last

795
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: time you watched it. I haven't watched Moisia sometime. Yeah, man,

796
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: go back and watch Moisha. She's a bit damn. Was

797
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: she just a bad friend? What was She's just like

798
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: She's always making fun of Kim for being fat. She's

799
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: like super mean too, d who's just trying to help

800
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: her out, Like her dad bought her a Saturn for

801
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: her birthday and this bitch said no, that's not my

802
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: style and made him take it back. And she was like,

803
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: I guess save up for a jeep. Funk out of here.

804
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: You got a free car. I didn't like get a car.

805
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,439
Speaker 1: My first car was six dollars. I was like three,

806
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: Like I just don't. I don't well, I'm starting to

807
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: hate our guts just off deep dive she was. It

808
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: was like, yo, you watch that show and it's like

809
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: crazy where you're like, I can't even believe this got through,

810
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: Like nobody. I feel like the writer's room. That's who

811
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: we need to get because somebody from that writer's room,

812
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: because I feel like the writer's room. They peeped it

813
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: and they were like, you know what, Brandy's kind of

814
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: a bit. Let's just make the show about her being

815
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: kind of a bit. So they you're saying, if I'm

816
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: understanding you correctly, that Brandy was giving negative vibes to

817
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: them during the creation of the show, and they subsequently

818
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: punished her through through the writing, Mosia is not a

819
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: super likable character like she always does the mean this

820
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 1: rudest thing. First, Wow, I gotta go back, you gotta

821
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: go back. It's on Netflix right now. Shout out to

822
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: Shout out to ray J, though I don't want him

823
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: to feel like I don't want this to funk up

824
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: our relationship. Yeah, you don't want to get on ray

825
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 1: J's bad side. He's a man who will send people

826
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: to sex you in the butt. According to he will

827
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: get his sneakers who like his ownly mission. He will

828
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: pay people to come fuck you in the bootio. Because

829
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: I guess he's upset with you, I'm not really sure.

830
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: For those of you that are unfamiliar, I don't want

831
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: you holding me accountable for me being uh not having taste.

832
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: This is truly something ray J said on the Breakfast

833
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: Clubs That interview in reference to Fabulous, who has come

834
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: up twice in this episode. Now, but he was very

835
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: upset with Fabulous, who made fun of him for playing

836
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: a piano at Floyd Mayweather's house, and then he threatened

837
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: to have Fabulous uh both murdered and sex in the butt.

838
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: I don't know the order. I don't know you gotta

839
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 1: hope for murder. Second. Right, if you just for the

840
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: morality of the humans connected to this, you gotta hope

841
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: for murder. Second. I think in for a penny, in

842
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 1: for a pound. If you're willing to do both for money,

843
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: it's like, whatever, all right, I guess I can happen

844
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 1: on accent. Remember we yeah, and that's not good. No,

845
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's good. That's not I'm not like

846
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: saying we pay as a hero. I'm just saying that

847
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm saying. Actually, this is going

848
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: that and that's sort of my point here. This really

849
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: went off the rails. But the point is there are

850
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: some who believe that Brandy and Moesia, specifically the Moesha program,

851
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: but Brandy as an entity, is cursed and curses all

852
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: those that are close to her. You seem like you're

853
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 1: not buying it. I'm not for it. I just I

854
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 1: feel like the people who have survived on that show

855
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 1: have not only survived, but thrived. Shoutout to Abbott, Elementary, serreleye, Ralph.

856
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: I mean, she looks she looks the same age that

857
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: she did on Moesia. It's amazing. We need to get

858
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 1: her on she does. Yeah, no, listen, if she ever

859
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: is not busy again in the future, boy, would we

860
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: love to have her just to talk to Serre Lee

861
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: Ralph and not trying not to say something weird. That

862
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: would everything. I probably wouldn't say a lot. Yeah, I

863
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: don't think you can. I would definitely have jewelry on them.

864
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: I would not come in the way that I come

865
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: in usually some kind of a i'd wear. I'd be

866
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: wearing purple, for sure. I get that. You gotta he

867
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: got to come in with a sort of royal energy

868
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: and hope that she can she can see that on

869
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: you some type of Maybe I'll make some type of

870
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: gloves out of a ground royal bag or something or

871
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: something or something freestylent. I'll look at I'll look at

872
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: the latest g qu I'll get some ideas. Listen, you'll

873
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: you'll get some ideas. I want us to to leave

874
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 1: on a fun one. And and this is a really

875
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: fascinating one that I I'd love to hear your thoughts on.

876
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: It actually comes from us, comes to us from a

877
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: person who I bet you'll know where he's from from,

878
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: a gentleman named Troy Walker. Troy Walker mile high till

879
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: I died, baby, not even going to side what appen?

880
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, you know where he's from. But Troy Walker

881
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: came with a conspiracy theory that I don't think I'm

882
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: ever gonna get over enjoying. But he said, my mama

883
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: told me that slavery was faked and black people were

884
00:56:55,080 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: already in America. First of all, known Troy shout Detroit.

885
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: We just went and got a stick dinner. He got

886
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: too drunk to walk homes out. It's like a week ago.

887
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,919
Speaker 1: Let's just say, Okay, my mama told me that black

888
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: people were already in America and slavery was not real.

889
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: Slavery was fake. There was no actual slavery, is the argument.

890
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: So he's not saying that like he's said. Does he

891
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: mean like slavery like the Triangle trade wasn't real, like

892
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: they from Africa? They were just all here. So part

893
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: of where this comes from is that a bunch of

894
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 1: people have started asking online why don't we have any

895
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: slave ships? If slavery was such a big deal and

896
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: so many people were transferred to America over so many years,

897
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: why do we never see any old slave ships? And

898
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: to that question, why don't you see any old East

899
00:57:55,400 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: India t Trading company ships. Why don't ships like ships

900
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: they become different things. Yeah, I think you're ahead of

901
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: the game already on what we landed on. But I

902
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: do think that that ultimately was the question sort of

903
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: being presented. And there are a bunch of people online

904
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: that go, ain't no slave ships, meaning there were no slaves.

905
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: Black people were already here. We just got a scammering

906
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: on us, which kept us sort of like in this

907
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: position of servitude. That's for stupid people to think, what

908
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: are you talking about. It's like heavily documented. It's heavily

909
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: documented in Africa. It's heavily documented in the Caribbean. It

910
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: was a system. It's heavily documented in the America's bro,

911
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: here's the thing, man, we need to quit thinking that

912
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: people are working that hard to trick us. Yeah, you understand.

913
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: It gives a lot of credit to the white man

914
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: of being like a mastermind in a way that that

915
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: I don't like. Yeah, it's like maybe they were just

916
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: kind of bad people and they thought they could buy

917
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: and so people they are not thinking about us enough

918
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: to construct some type of crazy elaborate Yeah like that,

919
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: because that wouldn't that wouldn't have helped them. Like that's

920
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: how we got rich, baby is free labor. America doesn't

921
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: get as rich as America got without free labor. Like

922
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: the whole reason we are where we are now is

923
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: because of black people working for free So it's like

924
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: you can't really like you can't cut that part out

925
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: of American history and still have like us be where

926
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: we're at. And I think, I think I will say

927
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: that part of what the argument is, if I'm understanding

928
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: it correctly, is that it wasn't. They're they're arguing that

929
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: the free labor does still exist, it just wasn't under

930
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: the the context and circumstances that we understand it to be.

931
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: If that makes sense, that we were not captives but

932
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 1: in fact just living here and then forced into free

933
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: labor in a different way. But maybe they're not. And

934
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: if slavery is people because you know why Africans called

935
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: the Dark Continent is because the coastline is so difficult

936
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: to sail out of m That's like, that's like a

937
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: big part of why Africa is the way it is.

938
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: That's why there's not a ton of ports city, Like

939
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: it's difficult to sail out of So Africans, weren't like

940
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: exploring like that, like, because it would have still been

941
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: the same people, right, it would have been West Africans.

942
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: I assume if they if they came by boat. Otherwise,

943
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: if they didn't come by boat, how else would it? Like,

944
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: I just that doesn't I don't think that gives credit

945
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: to black history. Like I I think that's stupid. I

946
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: think it's tone. Yeah, you're you're real mad at this one. Yeah,

947
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: you're raging because it's like as bad as slavery is,

948
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: you have to acknowledge it in what it did to

949
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: set this country up the way that it did. So

950
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: to be like we were just here and then they

951
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: pulled a trick on it. It doesn't give any credit

952
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: two black people's role in making this place great. What

953
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, I think it's like, I think it's

954
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: very dismissive and black people. You have to have a

955
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: way that we got here. It's very undermining almost in

956
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: into everybody involved except for the white man, you know

957
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like everybody else is just a

958
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: big old dumb dumb. But the white man, he could

959
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: he could write any story and we'll believe it because

960
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: he's so smart. Yeah, and why didn't they do that

961
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: with the Native Americans? Then? M M, I'm saying that's right. Also, like,

962
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: what is there because we know they were here? Yeah, yeah,

963
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like that one. I think that

964
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: one's bad. I don't. I'll go so far as to say,

965
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: I don't think Troy's mom told him that. I think he.

966
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: I think he googled it. Yeah, you google this, Troy,

967
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: And and you know what, Troy, fuck you, fucking Troy

968
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: for wasting our goddamn time a second time around with

969
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: your stupid conspiracy theory. Yeah, but also shout out, yeah,

970
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: we got a big steak the other day. Enjoy your steak,

971
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: you drunk idiot, And no more conspiracy theories for you, Troy.

972
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: All those fruity drinks, I mean drinks, I don't mean

973
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: drinks that were fruit filled. I don't. I'm sorry, but

974
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: what Troy, do you remember what his go to drink was?

975
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: It was like they were He was just like, because

976
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: Troy has have been drinking that long, So he's like,

977
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: if I want something sweet, and I was like, I

978
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: got you. He had like three and he kept saying,

979
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. These drinks are working. And I

980
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: know Troy alright, big dog. They take it easy on

981
01:02:55,480 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: those Amorado sours. You're gonna you're gonna start to feel

982
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: your knees a little differently. Yeah, he was leaning. He

983
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: was leaning, but shout out, shout out Troy, shout out Troy,

984
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: Fuck you Troy. And uh and I think we did it.

985
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: I think this is this is a successful recapping of

986
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: of some of our our most classic episodes. I feel

987
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: pretty strongly, Yeah, no, you performed well and uh and

988
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: I feel good about what we did. And hopefully you

989
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 1: at home feel the same. Except for the Maya Angelo thing.

990
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: And you haven't shipped yourself yet. Oh you're You're almost

991
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: done with your coffee. You'll get there. I want everybody

992
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: know it's a Starbucks. Yes, the boy goes to Starbucks.

993
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: Now he's he's a different person than he was previously.

994
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: No big deal. I got Martin DVDs. I go to Starbucks.

995
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: That's my life now, David. Could you tell the people

996
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: at home where they could find you what cool ship

997
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: you have going on? You can find me on Instagram

998
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: at cool guy jokes. Sadie seven, you should come out

999
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: on September fifteen in Los Angeles. I'm doing a show

1000
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 1: at the Allusion. Langston is doing one tonight. But this

1001
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: podcast is coming out too late, that's right. I I

1002
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: am bad at promoing. But you should go see David

1003
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: at the Allusion on September fift Oh. You should also

1004
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: see Langston Kerman at Faded Comedy, Denver at the date

1005
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 1: that we had agreed upon, which I know somewhere is recorded,

1006
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: but I don't know off the top of my head.

1007
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: Right now, I believe it is the third Friday in October.

1008
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: Third Friday in October sounds correct to me. The two. Yes,

1009
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: it is Langston Kerman Faded Comedy, Denver. We got a

1010
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: step and repeat. We got dark liquor, we got light liquor.

1011
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 1: Don't worry about the Brandy Cruz. Come get that teletic

1012
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: Kili curse. Yeah, she I think is like an anti Baxter.

1013
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, come to come to come

1014
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 1: to those things. Look on my Instagram. I'm around. Yeah,

1015
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: she actually is a a Nazi. Now if that it's

1016
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 1: way worse than uh, she isn't not. Yeah, she doesn't

1017
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: know though she has no glue. Uh. And it was

1018
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 1: gonna tell her, you know, I'm not. I'm not gonna

1019
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: tell her, but but please follow David and come see

1020
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: him at the Allegian or any of his upcoming shows.

1021
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: And uh, similarly, you can see me at the Allegian

1022
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: a couple more times, I believe, the the seven, and

1023
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: the twenty ninth. Right now of August, I'll be back

1024
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: at the Allegian performing an hour. So if you're you're

1025
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: in the Los Angeles area, come there and otherwise just

1026
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: keep a lookout for other days. You can follow me

1027
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 1: at Langston Kerman dot or Langston Kerman dot com. You can,

1028
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: I guess I don't do shit on there, but uh, anyway,

1029
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: if you want to send us your own drops, your

1030
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: own conspiracy theories, if you want to add to the

1031
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: one hundred episodes two hundred episodes of of of Mania

1032
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 1: that we've experienced here at least a hundred and thirty two,

1033
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: like Martin, then uh, you can send them to my

1034
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: Mama pod at gmail dot com. We would love to

1035
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 1: hear from you. Otherwise, that's it. Bye, bitch, my crop

1036
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 1: chips in your quals, racist, the whole schools, Marney Attorney stuff.

1037
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: I can't tell me