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Speaker 1: Hey there, Welcome to the Official Jets Podcast. We were

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Speaker 1: presented as always by win Bet. Betty's a team sport

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Speaker 1: bet together at win Bet. We're going to break tradition

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Speaker 1: here a little bit. This week. Throughout the season, I

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Speaker 1: sit down with Jets head coach Robert Sala in a

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Speaker 1: weekly spot that appears on CBS. Due to time constraints,

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Speaker 1: though that's always cut down a little bit. What we

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Speaker 1: wanted to do today was bringing you our latest sit

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Speaker 1: down with the Jets head coach, in addition to a

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Speaker 1: conversation we had a day after the season with Jets

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Speaker 1: GM Joe Douglas. Since the Jets hired Sala in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and one, they've gone four and thirteen, seven and

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Speaker 1: ten and seven and ten. This season was supposed to

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Speaker 1: be the breakthrough after the acquisition of Aaron Rodgers, but

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Speaker 1: he went down, of course, four snaps into the season.

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Speaker 1: The Jets started four quarterbacks this season and played thirteen

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Speaker 1: different offensive linement due to injuries. They beat three playoff

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Speaker 1: streak to the New England Patriots. Let's start right there

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Speaker 1: with Robert Sala. All right, Monday morning, you get here

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Speaker 1: after the season wraps up with the win over the

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Speaker 1: New England Patriots. What's the message to the guys in

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Speaker 1: the room.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of a continuation of what we talked about

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Speaker 2: last week. We want to start twenty twenty four with

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Speaker 2: a win. Twenty twenty four is going to be special.

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Speaker 2: We're expecting to get a lot of wins in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four. We're not expecting to be in the same

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Speaker 2: position a year from now that we're in now. We

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Speaker 2: expect being something better. And so the message was that

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Speaker 2: we want to know in the year twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: and the expectation is that we work our tails off

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Speaker 2: and we work with the same deliberate mindset that we

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Speaker 2: we're prepared to do it.

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Speaker 1: How are you going to use that adversity that you

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Speaker 1: face in twenty twenty three as a positive in twenty

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of positives.

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Speaker 2: You know, in these situations, you can either mope and

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Speaker 2: complain about what happened, or you can try to find

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Speaker 2: the silver linings that you can build and row off

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Speaker 2: of and you know, a lot of young guys got

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Speaker 2: way more reps than we anticipated, and because of it,

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Speaker 2: we feel like we've got some guys that we can

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Speaker 2: build off of. When you look at guys like Xavier

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Speaker 2: a wonderful year record, took a big step. Even Garrett

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Speaker 2: on the offensive side of the ball and guys who

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Speaker 2: are going to be the foundation of this football team.

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Speaker 2: And then defensively, you know, played a lot of really

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Speaker 2: if not better. And so you know, we feel confident

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Speaker 2: the things that we need to get corrected and and

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Speaker 2: those are things that we're going to attack here in

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Speaker 2: the offseason.

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Speaker 1: Can you talk about the demons that you guys got

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Speaker 3: For sure?

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Speaker 2: You know there's small things again, you're just you're looking

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Speaker 2: for silver lining, right and uh we beat three playoff teams.

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Speaker 2: We we Uh we played Josh Allen twice, We played

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Speaker 1: Was a bittersweet watching Aaron out there the last few

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Speaker 1: and you got to think about what might have been.

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Speaker 1: But also it's got to make you think, hey, we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a special talent, and I think that was

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Speaker 2: you know, we we had an unbelievable OTA and training

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Speaker 2: but he's special. And it's a little bittersweet because you're

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Speaker 2: watching and you're like, what could have been? You know,

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Speaker 2: a lot of us in our heart believe that we'd

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Speaker 3: But we're not.

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Speaker 2: And with that misfortune comes fuel and and I think

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Speaker 1: You made it clear today that you think, and there

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Speaker 2: I do think we are a lot closer. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we're still the same group that that we all thought

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, we acknowledge the things that

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Speaker 2: from there, you know, like I said, we got to

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Speaker 3: We got to go prove it.

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Speaker 2: Talking is not the time, but but we got to

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Speaker 2: go prove it. We're going to get that opportunity.

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Speaker 1: We're sitting here in January, but how excited are you

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Speaker 2: Really excited as always the off seasons fun and where

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Speaker 2: you're you know, you're you're going through scheme evaluation, You're

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Speaker 2: You're trying new things, You're adding new players, you're saying

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Speaker 2: good by the great players You're there's just a lot

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Speaker 2: of there's a lot of great things that happened in

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Speaker 1: There are reasons for optimism about this Jets club. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with the defense. They finished first in the NFL

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Speaker 1: in yards per play. They have stars at each level,

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Speaker 1: But offense figures that come in to focus this offseason,

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Speaker 1: but the Jets. But the Jets again have to address

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Speaker 1: the offensive line. With that being said, here's our talk

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Speaker 1: feel his urgency to win. Now, Joe, from your vantish point,

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Speaker 1: how would you describe the twenty twenty three New York

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Speaker 4: Ultimately not good enough, you know, proud of the way

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Speaker 4: the guys competed. There's a lot of character on this team.

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Speaker 1: In the three year stint where you guys totally reship

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Speaker 4: You know, this team's battled. They've battled there a lot,

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Speaker 4: and ultimately you don't want you don't want the adversity

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Speaker 4: the last two years experienced setbacks experienced the adversity, and

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Speaker 1: How can this group specifically grow from what happened in

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of young players are able to

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's it's amazing. It's amazing the job that

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Speaker 4: I mean, these guys they're they're their competitive nature, their

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Speaker 3: You see it every snap.

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Speaker 4: I mean, these these guys battle and uh they play fast,

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Speaker 3: That and brick set forth.

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Speaker 1: What was your reaction to Quincy Williams span voted Team

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Speaker 4: That was exciting because you know how much effort that

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Speaker 4: sure it was gratifying to him and what a great

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Speaker 3: Bias peers unbelievable. Fantastic story head.

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Speaker 1: You got to like where you're at defensively at all

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Speaker 1: three levels. I know there will be some tinkering, some

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Speaker 4: So I think it's important for us to get into

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Speaker 4: pinpoint the exact reasons why some of them did. Move forward,

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Speaker 1: When you watch Aaron Rodgers out there in the practice field,

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Speaker 4: Definitely some bittersweet moments there in the last three weeks,

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Speaker 1: What would you say about the fire that still burns

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's it's still blazing. You know.

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Speaker 4: He's he's the ultimate competitor, you know, and he's he's

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Speaker 3: Wrong, you know. And so.

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Speaker 4: I love I love where he's at right now, and

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he can't wait either.

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Speaker 4: But I think I think a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: The young building blocks pre Staul after an ACL tear,

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Speaker 1: he goes for over fifteen hundred yards from scrimmage. How

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Speaker 4: Uh, those two guys are cornerstone players and they showed

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Speaker 3: You know. So we're blessed to have those two guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, so we feel we feel like we

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Speaker 1: Can you speak to the confidence that you have in

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Speaker 3: Coach is death.

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Speaker 4: Those guys do a great job of developing players, and

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Speaker 4: I think you see that. You see that manifest itself

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Speaker 1: One thing that stood out to me while you're meeting

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Speaker 4: There's there's nothing else that's important besides winning. I think

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Speaker 3: So now we just have to do it, and we

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Speaker 1: How valuable is this day as far as what you're

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Speaker 3: In the department.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the insight that you're getting from the players is

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Speaker 3: And so.

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Speaker 4: Their honesty, they're their honest feedback, their insight is very important.

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Speaker 1: You're a competitor, You've won championships. Are you excited about

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Speaker 4: You know, we have a we have a great opportunity

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Speaker 3: And so that doesn't change.

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Speaker 4: But I feel like us coming together, really going through

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