1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: Single best idea of picking up the pieces off the 3 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: FED meeting yesterday and intercourse onto Apple earnings, onto a 4 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 2: jobs report tomorrow. It's Thursday, and we've barely barely begun 5 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: to touch on two hundred and forty thousand non farm payrolls. 6 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: This is statistic. Tomorrow we'll get to that. The jobs report, 7 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: some would say, is more important than the FED meeting 8 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: that we just observed. And of course what's so important 9 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: about this is great FED conversation on the FEDA sides. 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: Thank you Mohammed Alarian for heated comments about the overarching 11 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: theme here that wasn't captured in the press conference. And 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: Bob Michael of JP Morgan I thought was just brilliant, 13 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: just saying, look, rates are coming down. Just wait wait, 14 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: wait for the data and you'll see that. And his 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: colleague Michael Feroli with US today made it very clear 16 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: that the sum of their research at JP Morgan as 17 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: you are going to get back on some form of 18 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: disinflationary tendency. My single word yesterday, the single best word, 19 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: if you will, for the FED meeting was it was 20 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: drowning and hopium and analong at Bloomberg Economics. I thought 21 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 2: was just brilliant yesterday and today with us about the 22 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: tone of the press conference in terms of hope versus 23 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: the reality of the data out there. Anamong made some 24 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: controversial comments today. Let's listen. 25 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: As a FED watcher, my goal is to predict what 26 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 3: he does, so I actually disagree with what he did yesterday, though, 27 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: you know, because from the first perspective, they have a 28 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: dual mandate, and he perhaps has seen some data that 29 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: is not suggesting to him that the economy is super strong. 30 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: You see downside for us. But that's why he's trying 31 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: to be more dovish also. But I think he made 32 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: a mistake honestly, because I think a lot of Americans 33 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: are really feeling the pain of inflation. And while the 34 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 3: FEDS deadline for bringing inflation to two percent might be 35 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 3: the end of twenty twenty five, so they have time, 36 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 3: I think Americans really want to get it down immediately. 37 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: And the whole there's a point in the social context 38 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: where Americans are on this raging debate. That's an understory here. 39 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: I talked about it yesterday on the FED sides continuing Suthorn, 40 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: excuse me of fighting the plague is I think everybody 41 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 2: is I got it fro America. But the answer is 42 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: you look at the social context of the FED. And 43 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: I thought Diane's swank yesterday with KPMG was absolutely brilliant 44 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: on this. In the FED meeting, she just got going 45 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: on how they don't see what's out there. One of 46 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: the people on YouTube chat from Houston saying Houston's just 47 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: slowed down. There's just one anecdote from one of our 48 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: good listeners. Linda Dissel has been a listener of the 49 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: American economy into equities for decades. It federated her men. 50 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 2: She's out of Pittsburgh and it really gets out there 51 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: talking to the Federated world, and that gives her a 52 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: chance to look across the nation. She's really quite keated 53 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: about what the public thinks of what the FED is doing. 54 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: As we're going through this earning season. On what you 55 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: just announced about Peloton, I was reading the comment that 56 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: the President made We're laying off fifteen percent of our 57 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: workforce because there is simply no other way to bring 58 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: spending in line with revenues. This is where we are 59 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: in the cycle, and this is where it gets a 60 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: lot more interesting. To be a stock picker, because some 61 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: companies can maintain their profit margins and others are going 62 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: to suffer their profit margins, and then there's nothing else 63 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: to do but cut people, because well, look how the 64 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: stocks react. The stocks love it when you're cutting costs. 65 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: And I think that's where we are in the cycle 66 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: and that's going to play out. And that's why I'm 67 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: not particularly worried about them raising rates. It's more like 68 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: a question of the next catalyst being an unemployment noticeable 69 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: unemployment acceleration pro. 70 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: Tip, whatever anyone's view is, and we heard this yesterday. 71 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: I believe Bob Michael really underscoring and this, but others 72 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: pro tip. When the job market deteriorates, it deteriorates quickly, rapidly. 73 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 2: The charts are fast. That's what David Malpas would say 74 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: years ago at bear Stearns. Things happen fast when a 75 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: job economy finally deteriorates. We did not see that in 76 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: claims today. We will look forward tomorrow to the jobs 77 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 2: report with some service statistics. Again, I'll be looking at 78 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: the revisions of the previous two months, but at two 79 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: hundred and forty thousand, and we'll see what the revisions are. 80 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: It's a mystery. There's no other way to put it. 81 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: But the answer is people are saying, look, this is 82 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: a proretty much fully employed America. There is maybe good 83 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: solid wage growth, but some of these whispers that are 84 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: out there is really what we're gonna address here through 85 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: the month of May and into the summer. It's eighty 86 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: degrees in New York today, so I think we're almost 87 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: on the edge of the summer. We're on the edge 88 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 2: of digital success. I am a humbled my Apple car Play, 89 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 2: Android Play, thank you so much for this habit. This 90 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: is in new cars. Some cars they have wires and 91 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: it's sums built right into the dashboard. It's free. You 92 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: download the Bloomberg Business app and it's everything on there. 93 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 2: You can get Carol Masser on Apple car Play. How 94 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: about that. It's a miracle, I say. On YouTube, excuse me, 95 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: search Bloomberg Podcasts. That's probably the best way to get 96 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: us on YouTube. And there now the full replay, huge 97 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: demand for this, the full replay of the show. It'll 98 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: be out, you know, we're trying to get it out 99 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: earlier two three pm. Maybe we'll try to get that 100 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: out earlier as uh well, so today, just two real 101 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: post fed voices in the jobs Day tomorrow it's single 102 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: best idea. 103 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 3: H m m yeah,