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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class from how

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Speaker 1: Stuff Works dot Com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Katie Lambert and I'm Sarah Downing and this is

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Speaker 1: part two of some Historical Animals you Should Know and

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Speaker 1: our last podcast we talked about the Tower of London Menagerie,

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Speaker 1: Pablo Escobar's hippos, and Darwin's tortoise. But there are so

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Speaker 1: very many more interesting stories that we dug up, and

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Speaker 1: we're going to start with Winston Churchill, who has a

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Speaker 1: very very interesting pet. He does so Winston Churchill born

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Speaker 1: eighteen seventy four died nineteen is best known for his

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Speaker 1: leadership during World War Two. That's what most people request

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Speaker 1: him for in the podcast, not because of his very

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Speaker 1: interesting pet, but um, he decided from the first to

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Speaker 1: considered a national hero and possibly the greatest statesman of

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Speaker 1: the twentieth century. He also had a career in the

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Speaker 1: House of Commons for sixty years. He was a war

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Speaker 1: for him as far as an interesting life history, so

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Speaker 1: you might associate him with an animal like a lion

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Speaker 1: or you know, something noble and struggle and power. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe not a platypus, but the platypus is called the

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Speaker 1: world's most interesting mammal. Sarah and Churchill agreed. So this

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Speaker 1: platypus named Jill gave birth to a baby in captivity

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Speaker 1: in Australia and people were really excited about it. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's such a strange and interesting animal. There was still

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Speaker 1: so much to learn about breeding them in captivity. So

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Speaker 1: in February nineteen forty three, which was at the height

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Speaker 1: Prime Minister asking for six of them, and it was

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Speaker 1: to be this hush hush wartime mission. You know, this

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Speaker 1: this getting of our of our platypus is And I'm

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Speaker 1: still not entirely sure why if that had something to

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Speaker 1: a surprise, like, look, I got six platypuses. It would

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Speaker 1: have been the first thing. I don't know, it would

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Speaker 1: have been the first living platypus in Europe, which would

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Speaker 1: be huge. Or maybe he just had a personal thing

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Speaker 1: an Australian man built a special traveling platypus ory for

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Speaker 1: the animal he chose, which he named Winston, and it

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Speaker 1: was complete with the worms and little grubs for it

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Speaker 1: to eat. And our animal did very well on its

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Speaker 1: voyage until submarines near England, just days from their landing

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Speaker 1: the animals so sensitive it's organs that it ended up

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Speaker 1: dying before they arrived, but later made Churchill's desk it's home. Well,

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Speaker 1: it was stuffed, of course. It's such a sad first

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Speaker 1: entry to start. A lot of these historical animals stories

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Speaker 1: end up with with dead animals, but at least Churchill

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Speaker 1: had good intentions are next story, unfortunately, also deals with

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Speaker 1: an animal death. But dare I say it's entertaining? Maybe

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Speaker 1: That was the moose. Tacho himself probably died of urmia.

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Speaker 1: nose would be obnoxious because you'd have to take it

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Speaker 1: We're gonna start with John Quincy Adams, who was born

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Speaker 1: that walked on a leash, and the Coolidges also had

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Speaker 1: that's a cool pet to have if you're president. We

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Speaker 1: mice ANTII anti rat absolutely, and we want more stories

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Speaker 1: the next entry in our list. You've realized already that

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Speaker 1: and that is Empress Josephine and her Orangutan. She was

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Speaker 1: born in seventeen sixty three and died in eight Yes, well,

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Speaker 1: did you know that her name wasn't really Josephine. That

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Speaker 1: Everyone knew her as Rose, and then all of a

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Speaker 1: Josephine liked to dress her orange tang in a coat

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