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Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Countdown. We're setting you up for

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Speaker 1: their sports weekend and covering all the action from the

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Speaker 1: starts nine. Lying from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Here's

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Speaker 1: Brian no, Rich Hornberger and Jared Smith.

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Speaker 2: Oh what is going on? Happy Saturday to you. Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Hopball is well and we got a lot going on,

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Speaker 2: lots going on here this time of year. You got

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Speaker 2: March Madness right around the corner, got the.

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Speaker 3: Conference championships all lined up left and right, and uh, it's.

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Speaker 2: A great time of year.

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Speaker 3: Man, note doubt, Little World Baseball Classic, NFL News Colore, Kyler,

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Speaker 3: Murray Lands. We got high jinks in Baltimore with the Ravens,

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Speaker 3: all that good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Morning, Good morning Zer and everything good.

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Speaker 4: With you guys. Oh things are good.

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Speaker 5: It is uh we are we are looking at a

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Speaker 5: dark sky over the Mission Valley. Y m c A

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Speaker 5: here as I wait, as I wait for my debut

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Speaker 5: as a youth basketball coach. Oh boy, it's now listen,

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Speaker 5: it's it's an interim capacity, but I'm taking this seriously.

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Speaker 5: I've been doing wind sprints in the parking lot for

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Speaker 5: a long time here, and so as soon as this

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Speaker 5: show ends, I'm gonna be running into the gym. I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna grab my whistle and I'm gonna pull my socks up,

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Speaker 5: and I'm going to guide the seven under SuperSonics to

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Speaker 5: victory today, guys, So wish me luck.

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Speaker 4: Wish me luck, good luck.

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Speaker 6: Definitely a thrill. It's a thrill As someone who coaches

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Speaker 6: twelve year olds in football last year, it's a It's

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Speaker 6: a different experience, Brian, because you're I feel like I

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Speaker 6: want to impart my wisdom on them analytically, and they're

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Speaker 6: just looking at me like, hey man, just just throw

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Speaker 6: me the ball, Like, just call the play that's going

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Speaker 6: to throw me the ball. I don't really care what

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Speaker 6: your you know, your stupid analytics are talking about here

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Speaker 6: or whatever. It's fun, though, it's very rewarding, very awarding.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I have to know before we, you know,

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Speaker 3: talk about the action from yesterday in college hoops and

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Speaker 3: the goofy led court that is no more in the

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Speaker 3: Big twelve. How did you get roped into this rich show?

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Speaker 3: You know, it's an interim basis I just picture, I

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Speaker 3: don't know, a dad is coaching and is a little

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Speaker 3: sick or a little under the weather. Hey, we need

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Speaker 3: someone to step in. And Rich is like, I really

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Speaker 3: don't want Richerre the only guy that.

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Speaker 2: Can fill it.

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Speaker 3: Like what happened just an interim basis, I don't want

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Speaker 3: to be full time.

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Speaker 2: What's the scenario here?

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Speaker 5: Well, so, yeah, and you you absolutely nailed it. The

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Speaker 5: details are a little off, but basically the current coach

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Speaker 5: is a dad of one of the players on the

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Speaker 5: team couldn't make it for this weekend for one reason

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Speaker 5: or another, and so was literally just scanning the gym.

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Speaker 4: For a parent to make eye contact with him.

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Speaker 5: And I was just like, oh, hey, what's up, Ben,

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Speaker 5: And he goes, ah, Rich just the man.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to talk to.

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Speaker 5: And I have this unbelievable knack for saying the word

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Speaker 5: yes before processing anything else. But literally, I will walk

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Speaker 5: away from a conversation. I'll be like, I think I

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Speaker 5: just agreed to go to Dubai and I don't. I'm

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Speaker 5: not sure I could point to that on a map

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Speaker 5: right now, you know, Like I'm this, there's a reason

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Speaker 5: why certain people should not go into those timeshare meetings.

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Speaker 5: I'm the reason because I'll end up with spending thirty

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Speaker 5: thousand dollars a year for forty years and then wake

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Speaker 5: up one day and be like, you know what, I

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Speaker 5: think I need a lawyer.

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Speaker 4: You know, so you I got rope fantastic.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna do fantastic.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: I I already put some money down on the under

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Speaker 6: seven Super Sonics today to get across the finish line.

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Speaker 6: You know, I have full faith in the head coach

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: By the way, uh, you know, as we pivot from

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Speaker 3: what is it seven and under rich seven and under

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Speaker 3: what a game, man, that was an outstanding game. The

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Speaker 3: every now and then these college games it's just like

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Speaker 3: But last night in that game, that was high level

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Speaker 2: Them and they're like, it's over. I mean, just like that,

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Speaker 2: They're like, we just go home. Now, what do we do?

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Speaker 2: What's our course of action here? It was an outstanding

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I really enjoyed it too, And you know, Arizona.

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Speaker 5: Obviously we all get caught up in the final moments

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Speaker 5: of any game, especially when that ends in such heroic fashion.

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Speaker 5: But Arizona's offensive efficiency is really what flipped the game

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Speaker 5: every single possession. And that matters because Iowa State's defensive

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Speaker 5: ugly possessions. When the team that they're facing shoots over

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Speaker 6: great teams are this year. And if you're thinking, hey,

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Speaker 6: It ain't happening. I think the top eight teams right now,

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Speaker 6: I would draw the line at Iowa State, Duke, Michigan, Arizona, Florida, Houston,

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Speaker 6: Iowa State, I don't think there's a champion that's gonna

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Speaker 6: I just I don't know if that's gonna happen this year.

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Speaker 6: I think that's how good the Dukes, the Michigans, the Arizonas,

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Speaker 6: the Iowa States, the Floridas are. It's gonna be really

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Speaker 6: you're gonna have to shoot. For example, Florida shot like

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Speaker 6: ten per fifteen percent from three yesterday, still almost won

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Speaker 6: by double digits against the good Kentucky team. Like these

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Speaker 3: I agree with you, but it's gonna sound like I

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Speaker 2: In true no fashion, Right, I hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: But I think what's interesting is it works both ways,

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Speaker 3: where it's it's gonna be really tough for someone outside

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Speaker 3: I don't see anyone outside of that winning it all.

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Speaker 3: Maybe someone cracks the final four, that's possible. But I

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Speaker 3: you look at Michigan, Michigan barely beats an unranked Ohio

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Speaker 2: Duke the dookies.

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Speaker 3: They barely beat Florida State a couple nights ago. It's

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Speaker 3: a one point game, you know, and it's like, what's

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Speaker 3: going on here exactly? So there've been some close calls

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Speaker 3: of those teams getting upset earlier than we anticipated. But

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Speaker 3: to your point, it's going to be really tough to

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Speaker 3: because they are that good. Another team I want to

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Speaker 2: What has happened to Kansas?

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Speaker 4: My lord?

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Speaker 3: They get rolled by twenty two points against Houston yesterday,

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Speaker 3: never a ballgame, never even close.

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Speaker 2: Think about it wasn't that long ago.

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Speaker 3: They're beating the number one Arizona Wildcats at home at

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Speaker 2: And look at them now.

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Speaker 3: The Jayhawks are just falling apart, ripping apart at the seams.

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Speaker 3: And I don't see them as one of those teams

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Speaker 3: those teams that you talked about, Jared.

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Speaker 2: I just don't see it right now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with you. I feel like I feel

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Speaker 5: like this is gonna be one of the more.

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Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 5: I do think there can be early round upsets when

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Speaker 5: to thirty two, there's always gonna be upsets.

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Speaker 4: But I think once we head into.

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Speaker 5: You know, Sweet sixteen territory, once we head into Elite

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Speaker 6: Like that's another kid right BYU sitting in that you know,

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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a fun tournament because yeah,

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Speaker 2: Junior, Oh my god, he's unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: Man, he is.

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Speaker 3: And that Arkansas offense, I mean really, that's what's gonna

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Speaker 2: But for those.

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Speaker 3: I did want to mention the goofy led court that

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Speaker 3: all right, that's dumb, We're done with that. Let's just

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Speaker 3: We're pivoting here. And that's what the Big twelve did.

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Speaker 3: They had this led court so it lit up underneath

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Speaker 3: And they just said, all right with that, bring in

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Speaker 3: it to this, all right. Every now and then I

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Speaker 4: You know, the.

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Speaker 2: Girls that will get tattoo who's right on their chest? Unnecessary.

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Speaker 3: We don't need led courts, we don't need graphics on

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Speaker 2: Unnecessary. Just bring in the wood. It's fine. You don't

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Speaker 2: need to reinvent, reinvent the wheel over here, rich.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're all looking anyways to put it in uh,

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Speaker 5: it's it's. Uh, it's true. I think to a certain extent,

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Speaker 5: I agree with you. And then there's a poll. You know,

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Speaker 5: I'm a dad. I got a ten year old, I

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Speaker 5: And the reason why I like it. I don't care

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Speaker 5: So if they're into science, I'll be the Bill Nye

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Speaker 4: Like plea a go, you know, like whatever. I don't

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Speaker 5: But the point I'm trying to make is when when uh,

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Speaker 5: feel like, this is what that was. You know, maybe

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Speaker 5: maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm naive. Maybe this was a

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Speaker 5: great opportunity for them to like sort of soft launch

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Speaker 5: something that they could advertise more things by you know,

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Speaker 5: having an led cord. I don't know, like maybe there

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Speaker 5: is a bigger capitalistic reasoning behind this, but but it kind.

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Speaker 4: Of felt to me like, oh, I get it.

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Speaker 5: They're they're trying to make things a little bit more

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Speaker 4: And and I'm.

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Speaker 5: Supportive of that because I think sports are important for kids,

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Speaker 5: and I could understand trying to cast a wider net,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely for the younger generation, I would be more

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Speaker 6: alt cast for for some of the sports, Right, we

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Speaker 6: get that the Nickelodeon ones. Yeah, let me get the

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Speaker 6: you know, like, I think that would be a better

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Speaker 6: The irony here is the women's teams played on that

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, if you can meet in the middle, fine, yeah,

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Speaker 3: on in this NFL offseason. The first one I couldn't

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Speaker 3: believe this. I was like, is this one of those

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Speaker 3: like fake AI videos. I wasn't sure if this was

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Speaker 3: real at first, but it is.

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Speaker 4: It's real.

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Speaker 2: So this is Travis A Chan. That's right, not Travis Etn.

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Speaker 3: You might know him, formerly of the Jacksonville Jaguars, played

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Speaker 3: college ball at Clemson, right, Travis Etn. Just so we're

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Speaker 3: on the same page. Turns out that's not how you

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Speaker 3: pronounce his name at all.

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Speaker 8: Listen to this growing up Travis ah Chan, so it'd

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Speaker 8: be like A H, A and E, and that's how

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Speaker 8: you always said Travis ah Chang.

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Speaker 4: But when I went to.

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Speaker 8: College, Uh, I kept telling them telling him in my

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Speaker 8: name like every day, every day, every day, and like

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Speaker 8: I've like four weeks, they just couldn't get it. So

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Speaker 8: I'm like, man, it's Etn, Like is how you see it? Is?

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Speaker 2: How you said, wow, whoa, how crazy? That's just mind

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Speaker 2: blowing right there.

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Speaker 3: Truth Like, so, for all these years in the NFL

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Speaker 3: and going back to Clemson, everyone who said your name

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Speaker 3: is just mispronouncing it. It's like Devon a Chan the

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Speaker 3: Dolphins running back, right, that's how you pronounce Travis formerly

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Speaker 3: known as Etn.

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Speaker 2: It's Travis a Chan. That blew my freaking mind. I

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Speaker 2: love that he just went along with it.

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Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, you know, actually, you guys are right,

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Speaker 3: it's Etn even though it's not.

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Speaker 2: But we'll just go with who are these like? Backwoods Clemson?

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Speaker 2: You know what?

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Speaker 6: H and what do you mean?

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Speaker 2: Just can't get what are we doing here?

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Speaker 6: Come by?

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Speaker 4: That's crazy, unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: Well, actually I've heard the story told more than once

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Speaker 5: and by both brothers. But Travis and Jason, the correct

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Speaker 5: pronunciation of their last name is actually Kelse, so another

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Speaker 5: another Travis in the NFL at one point just relented

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Speaker 5: to the the broadcasters and the writers who just couldn't

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Speaker 5: seem to get it right, and they went by Travis

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Speaker 5: and Jason Kelcey for the remainder of their career because

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Speaker 5: people are like, that's not kelse there's an e at

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Speaker 5: the end, and so it's just it's just sort of

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Speaker 5: what happened. And you know, you know what's so funny

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Speaker 5: is we we then like we attached like brands to

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Speaker 5: like it means the Kelsey brothers, Like I mean, it's

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Speaker 5: it just said. It's so nothing else sounds right to

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Speaker 5: you at a certain point.

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Speaker 4: And Travis etn to me in my.

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Speaker 5: Brain, if his name comes up on you know, Yahoo

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Speaker 5: or ESPN Fantasy when I'm drafting my team next year,

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna be saying Travis h Chan to my

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Speaker 5: group because they will have no.

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Speaker 4: Idea who I'm talking about.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to draft Travis Etien, hopefully with a low pick.

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Speaker 4: That's why there's high value.

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Speaker 9: I yeah, I get where he's coming from about getting

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Speaker 9: tired of correcting people. One side of my family, the

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Speaker 9: name is Lemier, although it's spelled like Lemieux, like the

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Speaker 9: hockey player. But even even going Lemier, because from Rhode Island,

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Speaker 9: even going to Lemi or to Lemieux, even going to Lemieux,

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Speaker 9: people will still not be able to say Lemieux. They'll

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Speaker 9: they'll do like Lemi er so like I mean, not

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Speaker 9: not Lemere. They'll do like Lemmy Ox or people. People

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Speaker 9: in this country just do not know how to print,

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Speaker 9: especially French names, but they really do not know how

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Speaker 9: to pronounce names. Yeah, you just give up after a while,

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Speaker 9: like after after like fifteen years or whatever. It's not

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Speaker 9: worth my I'm.

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Speaker 6: Just curious what other names we've been mispronouncing all the

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Speaker 6: show that the first thing I thought about with called it.

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Speaker 5: I've called it died John Mustard for the longest and

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Speaker 5: nobody can convince me otherwise, gentlemen.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, well, pronouncing names is something that especially in

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Speaker 6: the broadcasting industry. I remember theirs my first gig. Here's

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Speaker 6: the fun story. My first gig out of college. I

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Speaker 6: was the PA announcer for the Richard Stockton College soccer

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Speaker 6: team in uh Pomona, New Jersey, South Jersey. I was

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Speaker 6: interning in Atlantic at the ESPN Radio Filly in Atlantic

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Speaker 6: City at the time, and it was unpaid. My first

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Speaker 6: actual paid job was the PA announcer for this small

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Speaker 6: D three school And I remember the first time trying

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Speaker 6: to pronounce the names. I was so nervous. I got

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Speaker 6: one name wrong, and I remember looking down into the

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Speaker 6: stands and then and the eyes of the mother was

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Speaker 6: was staring back at me this angry gaze.

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Speaker 2: You're like, he's not quite on the money there.

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Speaker 6: She came up after the after the announcement. She's like,

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Speaker 6: that's not how you pronounced my daughter's name. And if

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Speaker 6: people take this stuff, it's the it's I mean, it's

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Speaker 6: your family name. So I understand how important it is.

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Speaker 6: So we I apologize, Travis. You know, I think hopefully

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Speaker 6: we pronounce your name right for the rest of your career.

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Speaker 3: You know what's funny is if you look at pro

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Speaker 3: Reference Pro Football Reference, it still has the pronunciation.

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Speaker 2: E T N.

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Speaker 3: Yeah they have not yet, but yeah, four years in

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Speaker 3: the NFL, we've been mispronouncing it the whole time. But

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Speaker 3: I love the end of what he had to say

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Speaker 3: at his introductory press conference. Now with the Saints, Travis Hn,

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Speaker 3: here you go.

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Speaker 8: I'm very much open to hing Travis Hn again just

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Speaker 8: being myself. I don't have the correct people here on

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Speaker 8: how to say my name each and every day, and

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Speaker 8: I kind of love that, and that's just uh, just

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Speaker 8: get back to me.

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Speaker 3: I love that where it's like, hey, I can be

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Speaker 3: me again here in New Orleans, like they know what's

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Speaker 3: going on, they know what time it is it's a

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Speaker 3: Hn And everybody in New Orleans is like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it makes perfect sense. It doesn't look anything like that,

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Speaker 3: but that's how it's pronounced. Like he's gonna fit in

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Speaker 3: great there in New Orleans.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's uh what what?

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Speaker 5: What a relief for Travis Hn and what an incredible

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Speaker 5: pain in the neck for the rest of us?

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Speaker 4: So really.

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Speaker 6: Really selfish?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, how dare you want to be called

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Speaker 5: by his actual berths off?

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Speaker 4: Oh I can't stand him? Now?

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Speaker 6: You think it's a Cajun thing? Do you think maybe

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Speaker 6: because it's Louisian, right, they have a different dialect, maybe

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Speaker 6: they have the ability to you know, absorb that type

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Speaker 6: of name where they do have some pretty unique names

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Speaker 6: down there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a that was a French territory that we

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Speaker 5: we bought, you know what I mean? Like that that's

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Speaker 5: you know, I mean the United States was kind of

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Speaker 5: parceled off between the Brits and the French, and we

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Speaker 5: we bought our way all the way to the west coast.

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Speaker 5: And Louisiana is literally named after a French king, So

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Speaker 5: so yeah, the French quarter in New Orleans, I mean,

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Speaker 5: there's there's definitely a heavy French influence down there, So

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Speaker 5: I bet you, I bet you that conversation was generated

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Speaker 5: by somebody down there in the Bayou who goes, that's

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Speaker 5: not how that's pronounced. You are you comfortable with people

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Speaker 5: mispronouncing your name? And he probably went, oh my god, it.

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Speaker 6: Was vindicated after years of being mispronounced. That actually is

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Speaker 6: one of the wild that like you like during the week, right,

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Speaker 6: And there's a lot going on in sports this week, right,

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Speaker 6: NFL four agency and the college basketball and stuff. That

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Speaker 6: story like really stuck, like stood out like it was.

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Speaker 6: It was very viral, as they say, and for something

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Speaker 6: like that to go viral in this culture, it was

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Speaker 6: a big story this week, and I think it kind

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Speaker 6: of just speaks to, you know, the culture that we're

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Speaker 6: in and how people do identify themselves. And it was

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Speaker 6: an interesting one. It definitely caught my eye this week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And another story as far as the big NFL offseason changes,

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Speaker 3: how about Kyler Murray signing with the Vikings. It is official,

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Speaker 3: he signs for the veteran League minimum. Of course, Arizona

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Speaker 3: owes him just under thirty seven million dollars, so he

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Speaker 3: signs a deal with the Vikings just over a million bucks, right,

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Speaker 3: so pretty good signing financially for the Vikings. And I

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Speaker 3: do love this how the reports are the Vikings aren't

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Speaker 3: giving up on JJ McCarthy by any stretch. It's like, okay,

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Speaker 3: all right, yeah, this is the Vikings being in a

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Speaker 3: relationship and they just went on a date with the

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Speaker 3: hot secretary. And then someone's like, aren't you in a relationship, Vikings?

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Speaker 3: And they're like, oh yeah, we're still in a thriving

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Speaker 3: relationship that has not run its course by any means.

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Speaker 3: And you're like, okay, all right, like what are we

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Speaker 3: doing here? And I just don't I don't mean to

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Speaker 3: be critical all across the board, but I don't know

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Speaker 3: how Kyler Murray became good in one off season, Like

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Speaker 3: the positivity with this move, like.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, they got Kyler Murray, Like whoa look at it.

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Speaker 2: It's like he's you realize this.

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Speaker 3: He's thrown twenty six touchdown passes in an NFL season.

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Speaker 3: That's as high in seven seasons as twenty six touchdown passes.

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Speaker 3: If you look at his career passer rating, it's ninety

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Speaker 3: two point two. And just for reference, that's a Skoch

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Speaker 3: better than Jackson Dart's rookie season, like that's what he's

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Speaker 3: given you in a seven year clip. And I get

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Speaker 3: some of the optimism where it's like, hey, justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 3: Now he asked Kevin O'Connell, look what KOC did with

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Speaker 3: Sam Darnold, Like, WHOA, let's go. I get some of

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Speaker 3: the optimism, but man, I think it's going way too

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Speaker 3: far where people are acting like this is an upper

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Speaker 3: echelon signing.

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Speaker 2: It's just not.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited to see what he can do, but I'm

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Speaker 3: telling you the ceiling isn't as high as some people

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Speaker 3: think it is here.

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Speaker 5: I think with talent, and Kyler Murray has talent, and

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Speaker 5: I think if you look at his only at his

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Speaker 5: passing stats and not the full quarterback profile including all

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Speaker 5: the rushing, you're missing obviously what's so great about Kyler Murray?

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Speaker 4: And I do mean.

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Speaker 5: Great in the relative term. I mean, do I think

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Speaker 5: he is a top ten quarterback routinely in the NFL?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: I do not.

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Speaker 5: He's fallen to the middle tier. I would say, just

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Speaker 5: as many times as he's crested the top ten over

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Speaker 5: the course of his time in the league. And that

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Speaker 5: is sort of a swinging pendulum like sometimes he looks

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Speaker 5: really good. You could argue in games, in two game stretches,

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Speaker 5: in month long bouts, he looks like a top ten

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Speaker 5: quarterback and then he'll regress, and that has been the

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Speaker 5: story of his career. But a quarterback with that level

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Speaker 5: of talent, with a coach with Kevin O'Connell's level of talent,

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Speaker 5: where I do think he'll find a way to make

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Speaker 5: him a system fit with such low downside is the

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Speaker 5: most important thing. This is the ultimate upside signing. He

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Speaker 5: is talented, he is cheap, he's relatively durable. He did

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Speaker 5: have that knee injury a couple of years ago, but

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Speaker 5: overall he's been on the field more than he's been

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Speaker 5: away from it. That hasn't been a huge problem for

653
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Speaker 5: Kyler Murray. Albeit he's diminutive in size. I think that's

654
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Speaker 5: the reason, Brian, why there's so much excitement and interest

655
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Speaker 5: over this signing.

656
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Speaker 4: I think it would be revisionist history.

657
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 5: To go back and say, yeah, Kyler Murray is one

658
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 5: of those quarterbacks who's just been so you know, celestially

659
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 5: great that you know, I mean, this guy is you know,

660
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 5: he's left the planet with his ability no no, no, no,

661
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 5: that's not what this is. It's just an exciting experiment

662
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 5: as a one off to see if one of these

663
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Speaker 5: quarterback whisperer coaches like Kevin O'Connell clearly is, can take

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Speaker 5: this old house and spruce it up a little bit

665
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 5: over the course of an offseason and a season. And

666
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 5: if he doesn't, if they kind of flail and miss, well,

667
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 5: at least they didn't spend a ton of money. You know,

668
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 5: they're only committed what like a million bucks maybe a

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Speaker 5: little over a million dollars plus maybe some incentives. What

670
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 5: the bigger story here is, Man, did they miss on

671
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy and that's a really bad thing.

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Speaker 6: And also letting Donald walk. I mean you could argue

673
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 6: that too, although I mean we'll see what, you know,

674
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 6: the history books say about that over the next year

675
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 6: or so. Although to be fair, the Seahawks just won

676
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 6: the Super Bowl, so it's hard to really be down

677
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 6: on Donald right now. All the money that they owe

678
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 6: home over the next year, so might might might turn

679
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 6: out to be something that Minnesota doesn't want to be

680
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 6: tied to. I think that's why the GM lost his job.

681
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 6: I think that's why they're going through all this turmoil

682
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 6: right now. I mean, I think it's it's it's roses

683
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 6: for Minnesota. They've got to feel great about getting a

684
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 6: guy like Kyler Murray at such a cheap price. I mean,

685
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 6: the quarterback position in the NFL is know, that is

686
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 6: the most expensive position in sports. So to get a

687
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 6: guy with Murray's upside, even if you don't capture that upside,

688
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 6: it is a low risk, high reward scenario. It's like

689
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 6: banking on a you know, it's like putting a dollar

690
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 6: on the parlay plotter. Like if we lose, all right,

691
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 6: so be it. It's a buck. But if we win, oh,

692
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 6: we get five, six, seven, eight to one payouts, right Like,

693
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 6: It's just it's a low risk, high reward type of situation.

694
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Speaker 6: And if anyone can turn Kyler into a star, you know,

695
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 6: back into a star, why not Kevin O'Connell. I mean,

696
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 6: I think that he certainly has the ability to do so.

697
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 6: But yeah, I would say the headline of this story

698
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 6: is less about Kyler Murray and more about JJ McCarty.

699
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 6: I would say it's like seventy thirty in the they're

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Speaker 6: more down on McCarthy than they are high on Murray.

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Speaker 6: And the two situation is the same thing, right, Brian,

702
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 6: Like Atlanta just brought into and it's very similar. They

703
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 6: don't really feel that comfortable with Bennex, like, yeah, we

704
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 6: got to bring someone in that maybe can you know,

705
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 6: capture lightning in a bottle and give us some production

706
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 6: because we drafted this kid in the first round, top

707
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 6: ten pick, and he's just not so far panning out

708
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 6: to what we expected. So both McCarthy and Pinex are

709
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 6: both kind of in this limbo category where the expectations

710
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 6: were high, they've not met those expectations, and now you're

711
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 6: bringing in some veteran assistance to try to spurn some production.

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00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 2: Spurn some production. That's absolutely right.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

714
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: It's a good description right there.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: Look, I just if you look at JJ McCarthy, it's

717
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 3: gonna be interesting to see if it sort of plays

718
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 3: this same way out with Kyler Murray. Meaning this there

719
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 3: was really no honeymoon for JJ McCarthy. You remember the

720
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: conversation at the beginning was like, Oh, yeah, we're gonna

721
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 3: be patient. We're gonna be patient.

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Speaker 4: You know.

723
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: Fans were like, oh, we're gonna be patient. It's like,

724
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: you don't know what patient means. Like, if you look

725
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: it up in the dictionary, you're like, holy cow, it

726
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 3: does exist in the dictionary. Like, fans are not patient

727
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,479
Speaker 3: at all. Organizations are not patient. And so the deal

728
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 3: with JJ McCarthy, who's injured his whole rookie season, played

729
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 3: ten games, looked bad, was banged up.

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Speaker 2: We get it.

731
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Speaker 3: But there was no honeymoon. There's no patience. And so

732
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 3: that's what I wonder with Kyler Murray is it is

733
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 3: go time. That's a good supporting cast, it's a good roster,

734
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 3: you get good quarterback play. You could make a run

735
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. Like, that's how talented the roster is.

736
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 3: So if Kyler Murray is inconsistent, good down, like, it's

737
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 3: gonna be pretty fascinating, fascinating to see how it plays out.

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Speaker 3: Because there was just no time for a honeymoon. There

739
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 3: was no time to all right, you know what you're learning,

740
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 3: the system, you're getting used to your teammates. You know,

741
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 3: it's like, bro, the treadmill is on high right now,

742
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: and you've got to jump on and run and get

743
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 3: on board that. That's what every quarterback is expected to

744
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 3: do right now. I just think that, look, man, he's

745
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 3: talented Kyler Murray is he's also very inconsistent, and I

746
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 3: don't know why. We're just like fascinated.

747
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: He's talented.

748
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 6: It's like, give me.

749
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Speaker 3: Consistency, you know, Like Justin Fields is crazy talented, he's

750
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 3: totally inconsistent, you know. So I want to see if

751
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 3: Kyler can revive his career. He's certainly in a good

752
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 3: place to do that. But you got to see a

753
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 3: lot more consistency than you've seen through seven seasons.

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Speaker 2: It's a long time.

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Speaker 2: What do you like?

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Speaker 6: Well, Ucla is a big dog today against Produce, so

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Speaker 6: Produce on my fade list for March. I just I

784
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Speaker 6: don't know. I guess there's something about Matt Painter in

785
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 6: this Purdue team that I just don't fully trust. And

786
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 6: UCLA's catching seven and a half today UCLA has already

787
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 6: beaten for dude this season. They were a five and

788
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 6: a half point dog back in January, won the game

789
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 6: by two out in Westwood. Now they're a seven and

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00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 6: a half point dog on a neutral site. I know

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Speaker 6: it's a much further trip obviously for you, uc LA

792
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 6: than it is for Purdue, but again, don't trust this

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Speaker 6: Purdue team fully. And Matt Painter two and fifteen against

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00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,800
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795
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Speaker 6: we're gonna fade the Painter Boys and Purdue. We're gonna

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Speaker 5: Okay, very good. I'm going to the NBA and I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna take the Lakers on the money line. So they're

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00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 5: two and a half point dogs at home. They're coming

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00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 5: in hot, winning seven of their last eight, and when

803
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:43,800
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00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 4: They're almost impossible to slow down.

805
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 5: The whole offense for the Nuggets runs through Nikolojokich and

806
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 5: they've struggled to contain shot creators from perimeter, and that's

807
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 5: what the Lakers are bringing in waves right now. So

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00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 5: if LA wins, the transition game force is jo Kich

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00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 5: the defending space. The Lakers have the momentum and the

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00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 5: star power. I think this is gonna be a w

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Speaker 5: They lost to the Nuggets within the past two weeks.

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Speaker 4: That was a pretty close one. So give me the

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Speaker 4: Lakers at home.

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Speaker 2: I'll look at you choosing this parlay up. Give me

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Speaker 2: minds by the way, think alike.

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00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 3: I was on UCLA as well, Jared, so a pivot

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00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 3: to the Dukies. They just obliterated Virginia what a couple

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00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 3: of weeks ago at home. I just don't see this

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00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: being completely different. Give me the Duchies minus seven and

821
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 3: a half. They're just way better than UVA.

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00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 6: Plus six eighty six pretty good, almost seven to one,

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00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 6: not bad at all.

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Speaker 2: Oh, what is going on? Happy Saturday to you? Hope

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Speaker 2: all is well.

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Speaker 3: we look at the big ten here, how about the Badgers.

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00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 3: Badgers got it done yesterday, outscoring Illinois game, you know,

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00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,719
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Speaker 3: They're taking on Michigan today. And how about this man,

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Speaker 3: Wisconsin plus.

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Speaker 2: Twelve and a half. That's a lot of candy right there.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about this one? Rich Wisconsin can score.

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Speaker 3: I don't love their defense at all, and Michigan they

845
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: can pound them in that interior. You know, the front

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00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 3: court is really an advantage with Michigan. But what do

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00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: you see in this one with the line of twelve

848
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Speaker 3: and a half?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, Michigan's so much better now than when

850
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 5: they matched up earlier this season, and Wisconsin was able

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00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 5: to kind of the code against them. But the real

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00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 5: chess match is Michigan's elite defense and how that matches

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00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 5: up against Wisconsin's three point production. Wisconsin, they actually here's

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Speaker 5: the stat I love this. At fifty two point three

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00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 5: percent of Wisconsin's shots come from three. They are a

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Speaker 5: modern basketball team. They are analytics driven. You can tell

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00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 5: by the way they play. They are trying to get

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00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 5: a shooter open for his favorite spot beyond the art

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00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:39,520
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Speaker 5: they're converting at thirty five point nine percent of those

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00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 5: make a lot of three pointers. However, Michigan is one

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Speaker 5: of the most efficient defensive teams in the conference. They

864
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Speaker 5: hold teams to about sixty nine points per game, so again,

865
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 5: not an easy nut to crack.

866
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 4: Here's the bottom line.

867
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 5: This game may come down to whether or not Michigan

868
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 5: to run shooters off the line. Wisconsin typically gets up

869
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 5: like thirty plus three pointers, so if you're able to

870
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 5: scare them away from the perimeter you refuse to allow

871
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 5: the Badgers to get hot. Then obviously that that twelve

872
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 5: and a half points they're favored by is gonna look

873
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 5: pretty good. But Wisconsin can be dangerous and it's kind

874
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 5: of like a cornered animal is a scary animal. Well badgers.

875
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 5: I don't know if you've seen him in the wild,

876
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 5: but you don't want to push him into a corner.

877
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, the game yesterday was nuts. They were down at half,

878
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 6: came back in one down six at half, score forty

879
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 6: eight in the second half. And I think I have

880
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 6: to update this. I was looking at it yesterday because

881
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 6: I was on Wisconsin plus nine yesterday against Illinois, and yeah.

882
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 4: They hit, they hit.

883
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 6: They only hit ten threes yesterday, so fit for forty

884
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 6: one from three forty one of their six or six shots.

885
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 6: It's nuts. So they are still because yesterday they did

886
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 6: not hit fifteen threes, but they still won the game.

887
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 6: They are seven and oh this year when hitting fifteen threes,

888
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 6: and the four of those seven wins number two Michigan.

889
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 6: They're only big ten loss this year. Illinois Perdue and

890
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,479
Speaker 6: Michigan State and Michigan Illinois Perdue are on the road

891
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 6: on the road fifteen plus threes against top fifteen teams.

892
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 6: I mean, it's remarkable. They have no fear. Here's the

893
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 6: hard part about betting this game. I have no idea

894
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 6: if those threes are going in. Absolutely not. They're gonna

895
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 6: jack them up all day long. That's the only way

896
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 6: to beat Michigan today because Michigan's is gonna own the glass.

897
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 6: Michigan is an absolute beast in the glass. They are

898
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 6: one of those four teams if you missed it at

899
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 6: the top of the show, that are above where the

900
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 6: highest efficiency margin teams have won the national championship over

901
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 6: the last few years, over the last twenty years a

902
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 6: giant sample, they are above that efficiency margin. And it's

903
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 6: not because they're a great shooting team, because that's not

904
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 6: their strength. They are a decent shooting team, right They're

905
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 6: above thirty six percent from three. However, their best three

906
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 6: point shooter, Ljkson forty percent of the year forty percent

907
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 6: on the year, is now out with injury. He's been

908
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 6: out for about a month maybe actually know a little

909
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 6: bit less than that, about two weeks, so we haven't

910
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 6: seen the full effect of that yet. And I think

911
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 6: that's where Michigan scares me a little bit. If they

912
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 6: do get into a three point shooting contest with Wisconsin,

913
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 6: we know who the better team is in that category,

914
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,959
Speaker 6: but it's Lendenborg. It's Morris Johnson, Andy Maher, the seven

915
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 6: foot three behemoth like Wisconsin does not have an answer

916
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 6: for that inside. So can Wisconsin pull Michigan away from

917
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 6: the paint and turn this into a shooting contest. If

918
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 6: that's the case, they're live in this game. I have

919
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 6: no idea if those shots are gonna fall. Sometimes they fall,

920
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 6: sometimes they know, Brian right, we saw it yesterday. It

921
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 6: was Kentucky and Florida bricking wide open threes and you're like,

922
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 6: this one has to go in. They brick the last three,

923
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 6: No brick. So it's real. That's the hardest thing to

924
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,479
Speaker 6: do with sports, just like predicting in the NFL who's

925
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 6: gonna get the turnovers, So you don't know where the

926
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 6: ball is gonna bounce. Very hard to predict. Right, we say,

927
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 6: live by the three, died by the three. We have

928
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 6: no idea who is going to make those threes. But

929
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 6: if Wisconsin can knock them down, they are a very

930
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 6: live dog in this game.

931
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it reminds me of a couple of things. Wisconsin

932
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 3: reminds me a little bit of the old Jay Wright

933
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 3: Villanova teams where they would shoot a ton of threes.

934
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 3: They'd have four guards out there, and a lot of

935
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 3: times in the tournament they just would clench up and

936
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 3: they couldn't buy a three and they had an early exit.

937
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: And there were other.

938
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 3: Times as they got more experience, they they're burying those

939
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 3: threes in bigger games, and now they're winning championships, you know. So,

940
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 3: like the disparity that you have with shooting a lot

941
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 3: of threes is really wide and oftentimes hard to predict.

942
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 3: Is this your night, you're just hot or you just

943
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 3: can't buy one. I look at Michigan where you just

944
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 3: mentioned the NFL Jared and my ears perk right up.

945
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 3: But if you compare this matchup Wisconsin and Michigan to

946
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 3: a football game, Michigan has a really good, really reliable.

947
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 2: Running game, you know what I mean, like it's gonna work.

948
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 3: And Wisconsin they have a really good passing game. And

949
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 3: there are times where they're kind of like the Ta Dolphins.

950
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 4: You know.

951
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 3: There are times when the weather's great and you know,

952
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 3: we're throwing on time with anticipation.

953
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 2: Man, this looks pretty.

954
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 3: And then there are other times where it's like, all right,

955
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 3: it's raining sideways, now what That's where I look at Wisconsin,

956
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 3: where they're just they're cold today, and it's like, well,

957
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 3: this passing game, it's just a little off, it's not functioning,

958
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 3: and we're screwed.

959
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 4: You know.

960
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: So that's really what it comes down to.

961
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 3: Can Wisconsin hit outside shots, Yes, they've got a chance

962
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 3: to at least make it close. No, they could get

963
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 3: freaking crushed. But that's what the game's gonna come down to.

964
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 5: It really is, and that's why the margin on the

965
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 5: spread is so wide because there's so much variance there

966
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 5: with these playing styles. Look Michigan on page, they're dominant

967
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 5: compared to Wisconsin in one very key category and that's rebounding.

968
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 5: You know, rebounds per game. Michigan on average as them

969
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 5: by over five. And then you just look at offensive

970
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 5: rebounding rate where Michigan really shines. Thirty almost thirty five

971
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 5: percent of shots that go up when they're on offense,

972
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 5: they're able to come down with. You know, so second

973
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 5: chance possessions for Michigan's the next opportunity to score in

974
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 5: their half court is so much better for Michigan. And

975
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 5: then you throw on top of it that if they're

976
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 5: stealing away those defensive rebounds where Wisconsin could get a

977
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 5: second chance. The second look at three. You know, you

978
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 5: break a three, you come down with it. If you're

979
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 5: the type of team that wants to keep pumping them up,

980
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 5: well you're gonna find the open shooter, maybe kick it

981
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 5: out to the corner you get another look. Well, Michigan

982
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 5: dominates on the boards, and so Wisconsin's edge in this

983
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 5: game is shot quality. They need to consistently find the

984
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 5: best shot. They need to start hitting those shots early

985
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 5: and get Michigan on the ropes. So this is one

986
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 5: of those games where if you're uncomfortable betting it, you know,

987
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 5: right now, while we're talking about it, watch this game.

988
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 5: See if Wisconsin's got some hot shooters, and then maybe

989
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 5: you could get a little bit more cozy with the

990
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 5: idea of taking the Badgers. But if they're not, if

991
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 5: those shots aren't falling for Wisconsin, I mean, this could

992
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 5: be an avalanche in the way of the Wolverines.

993
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, and here's here's the rub, because the points look

994
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 6: very enticing. Obviously with Wisconsin, I understand that. Here's the rub.

995
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 6: Michigan's lost one big ten game all year. It was

996
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 6: the Wisconsin. If they can win this game by fifty,

997
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 6: I think they will. Right Like there is in a

998
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 6: narrative to this. You have to remember you're dealing with

999
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 6: eighteen to twenty four year old I mean, I hope

1000
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 6: there's no one that old on the team. Maybe there

1001
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 6: is an eighteen to let's call it twenty three eighteen

1002
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 6: to twenty three year old kids. I guarantee you last

1003
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 6: night when they got back. And that's another reason, right,

1004
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 6: like the conference tournaments are very intriguing from a big

1005
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 6: spread perspective. Brian, Yeah, because there's this element of we

1006
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 6: have to play again tomorrow. And I think that's where

1007
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 6: the Ohio State game yesterday maybe got away from Michigan

1008
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 6: a little bit. Where they were I think a similar

1009
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 6: favorite and it you just didn't see that separation. Well,

1010
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 6: now there's a light at the end of the tunnel

1011
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 6: because there's only one game left they have to play tomorrow,

1012
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 6: Whereas yesterday they thought they had to play two more games.

1013
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 6: Let's keep a little petrol left in the tank because

1014
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 6: we got to play Wisconsin or Illinois tomorrow. Now they

1015
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 6: know there's only one game left tomorrow and it's a

1016
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 6: revenge game now against Wisconsin. So I do think the

1017
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 6: element of if Michigan can name their number today, I

1018
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 6: think they will and that's where I would probably stay

1019
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 6: off this game from a bet. This game does not

1020
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 6: intrigue me too much from a betting perspective, because when

1021
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 6: you look back at the odds history, and I just

1022
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 6: posted this sheet if you follow me on x at

1023
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 6: Jared Smithbetts, I just posted this sheet where it's all

1024
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 6: of the prior matchups between the team. Right, there's a

1025
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 6: bunch of games today, all of the teams have played

1026
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 6: each other before. I like to look at what the

1027
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 6: spreads and totals were in those games back in January

1028
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 6: and February, maybe early March, and then compare them to

1029
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 6: what we are seeing today. Well, if you look at

1030
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 6: this Big ten game, right, Wisconsin was an eighteen and

1031
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 6: a half point road dog in that game and the

1032
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 6: total was one sixty nine and a half. So you're

1033
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 6: looking now at today's game and it's obviously shifted dramatically

1034
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 6: down to one sixty one. I think the spread's right.

1035
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 6: I think right Michigan was an eighteen and a half

1036
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 6: point favorite at home. Maybe they're a fifteen point on

1037
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 6: a neutral, but I think you give Wisconsin some credit

1038
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 6: for winning yesterday in Michigan. Will you know you downgrade

1039
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 6: him a little bit for not covering, but that totals

1040
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 6: dropped eight points since you know January, which is when

1041
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 6: in early January. So I think the market's kind of

1042
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 6: telling you that we don't think Wisconsin's gonna explode today.

1043
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 6: But I would be I would be very, very hesitant.

1044
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 6: I don't really like this game, frankly from a betting perspective.

1045
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's it's almost like a cartoon. You know, you

1046
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 3: see the cartoons where someone's just running super fascinatey just

1047
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 3: put on the brakes, like like that's how I feel

1048
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 3: where I'm like, I'm getting twelve and a half. I'm

1049
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 3: almost running to the window, like let's go Badgers, and

1050
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, whoa, I got a bank on threes going in.

1051
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: You know, It's like I don't know.

1052
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 3: I'm probably like you, Jared, I probably just like go,

1053
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go a different way. I'm gonna go with

1054
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 3: a different game or games today. How about Purdue against Ucla.

1055
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 3: That's the other Big ten game and interesting matchup here

1056
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 3: where if you look at Ucla suffered a big injury yesterday,

1057
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 3: so they beat a top ten Michigan state team. Nice

1058
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 3: win for the Bruins. They've played a lot better here

1059
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 3: down the stretch after some embarrassing losses not that long ago.

1060
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 3: But Tyler Billodeau he went down right knee injury. Head

1061
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 3: coach Mick Cronin he said it would be a miracle

1062
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 3: for him to play in the semi finals here. So

1063
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 3: he's listed as doubtful, probably not going to play. That's

1064
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 3: a big deal because you think about Kaufman, Wren, you

1065
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 3: think about Kluff, the bigs of Purdue. When you lose

1066
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 3: one of your bigs, and UCLA did this guy. If

1067
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 3: you look at Billidehu what he's done this season, like,

1068
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 3: he's averaging almost eighteen points a night and he's on

1069
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 3: the shelf right now, that's a big loss for them.

1070
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 3: So I think it's gonna have to be the Donovan

1071
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 3: Dent show. Donovan Dent has scored at least twenty three

1072
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 3: points in two of his last three games. He's been

1073
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 3: an assist machine. But it's gonna take Dent playing special

1074
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 3: and I think UCLA scoring a good amount of points

1075
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 3: to compensate for that loss of Bilodoh.

1076
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 2: That's a big loss for them.

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00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no question about it.

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00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 5: I would say momentum favors UCLA. But Purdue's ceiling is

1079
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 5: higher in my opinion, and in UCLA, they enter this

1080
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 5: matchup on a four game winning streak heading into the semifinal.

1081
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 5: Purdue looks shaky in the regular season and rebounded in

1082
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 5: the tournament here. But you know, it's funny thing like

1083
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 5: Uncle Moe momentum when when he gets invited to the party.

1084
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 4: It's a variety of things can happen.

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00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 5: You can become a little too reliant on that, you

1086
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 5: can become a little too you know, sure of yourself.

1087
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 5: But I do think it matters. And sometimes we even

1088
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,919
Speaker 5: talk about this with tournament berths. And I'm not talking

1089
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 5: about conference tournaments. I'm talking about the dance. You know,

1090
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 5: a team that may have struggled in the regular season

1091
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 5: or may have played in a conference with a lot

1092
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 5: of parody, who goes on a hot run and ends

1093
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 5: up winning their conference tournament. They can be live dogs

1094
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 5: to start the tourney because all of a sudden, you know, yeah,

1095
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 5: have a little bit of momentum in your you know,

1096
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 5: a little wind in your sales. So it's kind of

1097
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 5: like buyer beware with Purdue right now, I feel like

1098
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 5: the Bruins are feeling themselves a little bit and and

1099
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 5: that could spell trouble for the boiler Makers.

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00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1101
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 6: I think that US is a pretty deep team. I

1102
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 6: think Williams and Booker, the other two bigs are gonna

1103
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 6: I think Booker is really the one Michigan State transfer

1104
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 6: had a nice, you know, spark for them off the

1105
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 6: bench yesterday. I think will be fine. I think this

1106
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 6: is more about Purdue than it is about than.

1107
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 2: It right, Yeah, I think we lost Jared for a second.

1108
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was Matt Painter.

1109
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 2: Matt Painter was like, he's coming after our squad and

1110
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: he got his mic.

1111
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Purdue there they I'll pick up where Jared was

1112
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 3: leaving off where it's more about Purdue if that's part

1113
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 3: of the handicap, and it should be. Yeah, Purdue has

1114
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 3: had a rough stretched here where they've lost it. They've

1115
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 3: been about a five hundred basketball team over their last

1116
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 3: fourteen ish games. Right, that's just not good enough when

1117
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 3: you're going seven and seven thereabouts.

1118
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: To close it.

1119
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 3: They want a couple of games here in the Big

1120
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 3: Ten Tournament, but they have looked rough many times here

1121
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 3: rich So that's that's definitely the part of the handicap

1122
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 3: that Jared's focused on is, Yeah, Purdue struggles. It makes

1123
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 3: sense to look at it from that point of view.

1124
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 2: I get it.

1125
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 5: I don't want to I don't want to pile on

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00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 5: Purdue too bad, because I do think they have talent

1127
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 5: and I do think that that to Jared's point, and

1128
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 5: and you know, maybe against the point I was just making.

1129
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 5: With the momentum that UCLA has on their side, I mean,

1130
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 5: they're they're rebounding identity clashes directly with UCLA's ball movement offense.

1131
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 4: You know. So the way I see.

1132
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 5: This game is a little bit of a styles make

1133
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 5: fights games perdue. They rank near the top of the

1134
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 5: Big Ten in offensive rebounds Ucla. They rely more on

1135
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 5: ball movement. They're going to find the open man every

1136
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 5: single time. They average sixteen point two assists per game.

1137
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 4: That's a high number.

1138
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 5: So that means this is a team that's going to

1139
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 5: throw the round ball around the horn until they find

1140
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 5: the guy who's either driving toward the hoop or has

1141
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 5: the best, most open look on the perimeter. And so again,

1142
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 5: those style clashes can benefit one team or the other.

1143
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 5: You know, right now, with momentum, you say, well, advantage UCLA,

1144
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 5: but not so fast, because extra possessions through rebounding advantage perdue.

1145
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 5: So you just don't know until you know, you got

1146
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 5: to see how this game's going to unfold and unfurl.

1147
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 5: It's a good matchup, you know What's also interesting as

1148
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 5: a side note, when we're setting up the show and

1149
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 5: we're kind of just you know, look, we don't write

1150
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 5: any of this. This is all extemporaneous. We're just talking

1151
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 5: off the top of our heads, but we know what

1152
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 5: topics we're going to be heading towards. Having Purdue and

1153
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 5: UCLA in a conference tournament as a semi final matchup

1154
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 5: is still so strange to my brain. Like I was, like,

1155
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 5: you know, it was almost like I hit it. Like

1156
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 5: I was walking around the front yard looking for oh,

1157
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 5: and there's the Big Ten tournament over there, and I

1158
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 5: stepped on a rake. But like, Ucla Purdue, what do

1159
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 5: we do it? But yeah, this this should be a

1160
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 5: fun matchup because again, stylistically, these are two very different

1161
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 5: basketball teams and how they're made up.

1162
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 6: Sorry, guys, Matt Paynter wasn't too happy with my yeah

1163
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 6: analysis of his Purdue team. I just feel like this

1164
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 6: is a Purdue team that at their core is too

1165
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 6: forward driven and not enough guard driven and Smith is

1166
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 6: I love. Don't get me wrong, I love Bradon Smith.

1167
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 6: I just don't I don't view them as a top

1168
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 6: ten team. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm wrong a lot about

1169
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 6: these teams. But when I see some of their when

1170
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 6: I watch some of their games this year, and I

1171
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 6: look at some of their losses, it just seems like

1172
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 6: they have this like really volatile way about them that

1173
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 6: when they're running bad, they're really bad. I mean, you

1174
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 6: look at some of their losses this year and they've

1175
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 6: really given up some big numbers to Illinois. Wisconsin had

1176
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 6: a big game against them right before the regular season ended.

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01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 6: I think if UCLA shooters are on today and Dent

1178
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 6: is obviously the big one, I think this is gonna

1179
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 6: be a really this is gonna be a fun game.

1180
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 6: I think this will be a fun and this would

1181
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 6: be a higher scoring game. I would link to the

1182
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 6: over probably, but I'll take the points with the UCLA

1183
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 6: one of my stronger plays today.

1184
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 2: There you go, All right, that's the voice of Jared Smith.

1185
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:40,400
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Speaker 3: Coming up next our guy Seamus McGee. You know he's

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01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 3: all fired up for conference tournaments and March Madness.

1196
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,560
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Speaker 3: let's do this, okay, all right, Well, we'll get to

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Speaker 3: Seamus in a second in the meantime pause. Yeah, that's

1208
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 3: all right.

1209
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 6: I promise we didn't get knocked off the air like

1210
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 6: I Yeah.

1211
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, Unfortunately we had to pull the emergency brake. We're

1212
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 5: going far too fast down the freeway, right.

1213
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's getting.

1214
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 6: Ready for the Virginia Listen, he's got a big Virginia

1215
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 6: game today is his Who's a big game against the dookies. Later?

1216
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 4: Hey, I got a quick question for you, guys.

1217
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 5: How did you react to the whole Max Crosby saga

1218
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,959
Speaker 5: this week where he was a raven, then he wasn't

1219
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 5: a raven. Then it kind of felt like he was

1220
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 5: a pawn in a bigger chess game. And Hendrickson becomes

1221
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 5: a raven and Crosby is ready to quote unquote run

1222
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 5: it back.

1223
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 4: With the Raiders. What was your reaction to all that?

1224
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 2: Well? I have many reactions.

1225
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 3: And we'll dive back into that in a second here,

1226
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 3: but let's dive into this first.

1227
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 4: Follow the money, real good money.

1228
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 3: All right, Our guy Seamus mgin is with his team

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Seamus.

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Speaker 3: All right, so give it to us straight here, Uva

1232
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 3: against Duke. Now are you How does it break down

1233
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 3: for you UVA football compared to UVA basketball, right, because

1234
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 3: sometimes there's a difference with certain fans.

1235
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 2: How does it break down for you?

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01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 10: Great to be back, as always, guys, It's it's been

1237
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 10: a past decade. It's been UVA basketball with the Bennett peak,

1238
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 10: Bennett years, a national title, you know, especially after the

1239
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 10: upset to UNBC. I mean it was it had to

1240
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 10: be the championship that year. But whenever UVA football is

1241
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 10: even a little bit good, it just feels completely different.

1242
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 5: It's I don't.

1243
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 10: Know, it's something to be said about it, especially whenever

1244
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 10: you can beat Virginia Tech in a football season. But

1245
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 10: I mean the basketball what a story this year, first

1246
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 10: year for Ryan Odam Hampton Sydney College alumni as long

1247
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 10: as as long as yours truly here and twenty nine

1248
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 10: wins in his first year. It's great to be back.

1249
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 3: What do you think, real fast about the game against Duke?

1250
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 3: How do you feel about this one?

1251
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 10: I think this will be a better game than what

1252
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 10: we saw in Durham. I was texting Jarrett during the game.

1253
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,919
Speaker 10: It's like this game is just off the rails. Duke

1254
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 10: started seven of ten from three. Virginia's a good three

1255
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 10: point shooting team. They shot like seven of thirty. I

1256
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 10: think for the whole game. I'm excited to see this

1257
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 10: game on a neutral course. I think it'll be a

1258
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 10: really good test, a really good litmus test, I think

1259
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 10: for both teams as we go into the tournament.

1260
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 6: Is this the first weekend of the year where the

1261
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 6: college basketball handle becomes astronomical? I mean, is this really like?

1262
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 6: And I know that we've had some steady handle probably

1263
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 6: throughout the course of the season. We saw Duke Michigan

1264
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 6: a couple weeks ago, and obviously those games get get

1265
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 6: the high profile attention. But this being of course the

1266
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 6: eve of selection Sunday, you get conference championship you know,

1267
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 6: actual championship games, you have semi final games. Is this

1268
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 6: really where the first day where the college basketball spotlight

1269
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 6: is the brightest?

1270
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 10: I'd say yesterday with the a lot of semifinals going on,

1271
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 10: you definitely see some more high caliber games like that

1272
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 10: Arizona game yesterday against Iowa State. That was awesome. You

1273
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 10: have a lot of people who haven't really been in

1274
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 10: tuned to college basketball. This is the week they really

1275
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 10: start to get a glimpse of a right, who am

1276
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 10: I gonna like it in my bracket? Who I think is

1277
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 10: going to make a run. This is when you really

1278
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 10: see the handle of the interest pick up.

1279
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I'm really excited for this tournament. I

1280
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 5: ask you this every week because I do think that

1281
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 5: based on results and maybe we haven't seen enough come

1282
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 5: in and conference tournament play yet. Jamis, is there any

1283
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 5: changes in terms of high value future picks in terms

1284
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 5: of a championship winner. Has there been any movement on

1285
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 5: that front in your mind from last week when we

1286
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 5: last spoke.

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Speaker 10: Marginal? If anything, you don't see too many big moves,

1288
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 10: like if a team like Wisconsin ends up making a

1289
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 10: big run, maybe you see there on get all the shorter.

1290
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 10: You see it light in the same boat as well. Arkansas.

1291
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 10: I think they're an interesting one this year. They kind

1292
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 10: of falling under the radar in my opinion. The team's

1293
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 10: been ranked for most of the year, but you don't

1294
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 10: really hear a Calipari team talked about as much as

1295
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 10: I feel like you would have this year. So I'd

1296
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 10: say most of the futurement you'll see is pretty marginal.

1297
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 10: And then when the bracket comes out, Sunday. That's when

1298
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 10: you might see some actual movement when the paths get

1299
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 10: very real.

1300
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 3: All right, semus So, we got a lot of games

1301
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 3: going on here ranked versus ranked, anything else that like

1302
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 3: piques your attention the most from a betting perspective.

1303
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 2: I'll just throw a couple out here.

1304
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 3: Houston at Arizona, well versus Arizona neutral court, No led

1305
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 3: by the way, that's a thing of the past.

1306
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 2: Here Yukon and Saint John's. How about that one as well?

1307
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 2: Where the Johnny's got.

1308
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 3: Freaking destroyed the last time and now it's a short

1309
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 3: number at two and a half. Anything else on the

1310
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 3: board ranked versus rank that piaks your curiosity here?

1311
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 10: I mean, this is an awesome slate we got today,

1312
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 10: a lot of just great matchups. You know, we touched

1313
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:14,439
Speaker 10: on Uva Duke, this, Yutahon Saint John's rivalry this year.

1314
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 10: It feels like they've been on a collision course all year.

1315
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 10: That's going to be an awesome atmosphere to night at

1316
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 10: six point thirty at the Garden Big Twelve Championship. That's

1317
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 10: going to be a great game. Even Wisconsin Michigan, it's

1318
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 10: a very interesting one. Like Wisconsin They're on a big

1319
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 10: run right now. Little public dog here seeing a lot

1320
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 10: of Wisconsin money come in today against Michigan. It's the

1321
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 10: first time I think I've seen it all the year,

1322
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 10: Andandy Florid. I mean, it's just a great day for hoops.

1323
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 10: But I think I got to go to either that

1324
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 10: Yukon Saint John's game or that Arizona Houston game is

1325
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 10: the two biggest games I think that stick out, And

1326
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 10: then obviously I'm biased the UVA Duke Prime time game tonight.

1327
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 6: We were talking a little bit earlier about, you know,

1328
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 6: the top teams and just how there is a massive separation,

1329
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 6: Like the good teams this year are better than even

1330
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 6: the national champions were in prior years. There's four teams

1331
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 6: that have a higher efficiency march in this year than

1332
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 6: any of the prior twenty national champions. Do you see

1333
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 6: this being a year where it's chalkier than usual? Do

1334
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 6: you see anyone outside of maybe the top five or

1335
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 6: top six teams in the country that can really crack

1336
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 6: that up? Rashlant. I know it's called March madness, but

1337
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 6: it feels like this year's Seamus. There are just so

1338
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 6: many great teams and not as many good teams, and

1339
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 6: that gap is a little wider than I expect. What

1340
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 6: do you think look.

1341
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 10: At Ken Palm right now. I'm not sure there's a

1342
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 10: team outside the top nine in there that can really

1343
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 10: win the whole thing. I think the top four to

1344
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 10: five are even in a tier of their own. And

1345
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 10: maybe this is just the year 're in with the nil.

1346
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,719
Speaker 10: Maybe the parody at the top is just a little

1347
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,799
Speaker 10: bit bigger. We're hoping we see a little more upsets

1348
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 10: than we did the last march manas from a book perspective.

1349
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 10: A lot of favorites cash last year and a lot

1350
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:05,600
Speaker 10: of homeover's hit last year. So we're hoping maybe we

1351
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 10: get a Cinderella story maybe cracking at the top in

1352
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 10: the final four this year. But I think it might

1353
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 10: be tough.

1354
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, agreed, Hey, Seame is quick change of gears

1355
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 5: here because one of the more notable things while basketball

1356
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 5: is reaching a fever pitch on the college hardwood. You

1357
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 5: got NFL free agency, plenty of trades to discuss, notably

1358
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 5: Kyler Murray becomes a Minnesota Viking. Did you see an

1359
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 5: influx of interest in futures on Minnesota? How did that

1360
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,520
Speaker 5: acquisition shift the odds for the Vikings.

1361
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 10: It didn't change all that much. It's hard to see

1362
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 10: how big the drop off is going to be with

1363
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 10: Kyler or JJ Right now. I still think Kyler probably

1364
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 10: starts Week one, but I think O'Connell's probably the most

1365
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 10: underrated coach in the league. And you see what he

1366
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 10: can do for some TV careers in his time in

1367
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 10: Minnesota and what he can do with you, maybe some

1368
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 10: journeyman guys. I still think there might be something left

1369
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 10: with Kyler Murray, and I think it's a great spot

1370
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 10: for him to be in. So there wasn't too much

1371
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 10: futures movement yet. I think the Ravens saw a decent

1372
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 10: move with the next Crosby trade, then itself through, but

1373
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 10: then they got Trey Hendrickson, so I was like, Okay,

1374
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 10: maybe the number still sits there, but not a ton

1375
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 10: of movement so far with the Vikings.

1376
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 3: Okay, Seamus say a seamous special time. Are you going

1377
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 3: you know, big game hunting ranked versus ranked? Or are

1378
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 3: you going off the radar? You slide devil here? Where

1379
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:43,719
Speaker 3: are you taking us today?

1380
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 4: So?

1381
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 10: I have two but the first one, if you're not

1382
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 10: in the player prop state, you won't be able to

1383
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 10: best this. I like Gus Yalden of Vermont to score

1384
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,719
Speaker 10: twenty points. Former Syon, tall guy. He is at a

1385
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 10: great year for Vermont in the America East. I like

1386
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 10: Vermont to win that game as well, and I think

1387
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 10: Gus Shaldon has a really good game. If you are

1388
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 10: not in a state where you can bet player props,

1389
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 10: I go to Howard n C Central in the MEAC game.

1390
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,759
Speaker 10: I like Howard laying the twelve and a half against

1391
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 10: MC Central. This is a great team. This is a

1392
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 10: class of the MEAC right here, and I think they'll

1393
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:22,759
Speaker 10: be punching their ticket this weekend.

1394
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 2: Very nice.

1395
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 3: You never let us do the best. Love it all right, man,

1396
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 3: have a good day. We'll catch you soon, Bud.

1397
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 10: Join the games guys.

1398
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 4: You too.

1399
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 3: There he is Seamus McGee riding hard for his UVA.

1400
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 3: Who's over there, you know, taking a Howard Bison. Yeah,

1401
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 3: I love that team Lead of Sports Trading at bet MGM.

1402
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 3: That's Seamus's official title. Now, Rich, you did throw out

1403
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 3: a question in filibuster fashion.

1404
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 2: Which we appreciate. Right to connect with Seamus.

1405
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 3: But yeah, this whole Max Crosby drama where the Ravens

1406
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:56,879
Speaker 3: they backed out of the trade according to the Raiders.

1407
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 3: Some might say they came to their senses. I'll put

1408
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 3: it this way. The Ravens signed Max Kross. I'm sorry

1409
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 3: they backed out of the trade with Max Crosby. They

1410
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 3: signed Trey Hendrickson via free agency. Right, Max Crosby is

1411
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 3: a baller, Don't get me wrong, But there is no

1412
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 3: way Max Crosby is two first round picks better than

1413
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson. There's just no way. And like Trey hendrick

1414
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 3: is not to like poop poop Max. It's just like

1415
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson is a baller too. Like there is not

1416
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 3: that big of a separation. Now, Max is younger, He's

1417
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 3: almost three years younger, which absolutely matters here.

1418
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 2: But how long if the trade went through? Did you

1419
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 2: see Max playing for the Ravens. Do you see him

1420
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 2: playing four or five years? I don't know that he

1421
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 2: would have been there that whole time. So I just

1422
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 2: think for the here and now, the next year or

1423
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 2: two or three. I'm totally fine with the Ravens. I'm

1424
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 2: a Ravens fan.

1425
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 3: I would rather have Hendrickson and two first round picks

1426
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 3: than Max Crosby and no two first round picks.

1427
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 2: That's the way I see it.

1428
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I agree with that.

1429
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 5: I think in terms of first round draft capital, if

1430
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 5: you look at it like a lottery ticket, well then

1431
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 5: that's probably not the appropriate or apt comparison. It's more like,

1432
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 5: you know, you are either promised a a pro bowler,

1433
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:22,719
Speaker 5: you know, at at about a forty percent hit rate,

1434
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 5: or you're gonna get a guy who can, at very

1435
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 5: least for the most part, be a starter for you.

1436
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 5: Right that that's basically the gamble of drafting in the

1437
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:35,640
Speaker 5: first round. That's usually how it goes. There are busts, obviously,

1438
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 5: there are always busts. That's the reason why that Pro

1439
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 5: Bowl number hovers somewhere just below forty percent for drafting

1440
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 5: in the first round. So you're giving up two opportunities

1441
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 5: for a forty percent chance at drafting a five year

1442
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 5: pro bowler, somebody you have under roster control for five years,

1443
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 5: to get an aging defensive lineman to come through the doors,

1444
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 5: whereas you could part with some cash, have a little

1445
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 5: bit more of a cap cash in signing Trey Hendrickson.

1446
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 5: I think the Ravens did themselves the right move now

1447
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 5: in terms of Crosby, when at first blush, when I

1448
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 5: heard that he was going to be a Raven.

1449
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 4: I thought the ethos fit.

1450
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 5: And what I'm trying to say is Max Crosby when

1451
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 5: he was drafted by the Raiders and you saw him

1452
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,600
Speaker 5: come to fruition as a pass rusher with them, it

1453
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 5: almost felt like Max Crosby was born to be a Raider.

1454
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 5: You're like, oh, yeah, no, that guy just makes sense

1455
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 5: as a Raider. I feel very similar about Max Crosby

1456
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 5: as a Raven. I feel like if he went in there,

1457
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 5: he would have had success because not only does the

1458
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 5: player match with most defensive systems, but especially with the

1459
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 5: Ravens are looking to get done, but also the ethos,

1460
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:50,639
Speaker 5: the attitude, like he would look right in a Baltimore

1461
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 5: Ravens uniform, and I think they would have had success

1462
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 5: with him as well.

1463
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:55,959
Speaker 4: But again, when you're talking.

1464
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 5: About what you would have had to give given up

1465
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 5: to get him versus what they're getting with Trey hendricks In,

1466
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 5: I'm way better with signing Trey Hendrickson.

1467
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1468
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 6: So here's how I perceived the timeline. So Friday night,

1469
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,799
Speaker 6: the trade is announced between the Raiders and the Ravens.

1470
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 6: At that point in time, Trey Hendrickson was expected to

1471
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:21,560
Speaker 6: sign with the Cowboys. That was probably what the consensus

1472
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 6: was amongst NFL insiders, and so the Ravens are thinking, Okay,

1473
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:26,879
Speaker 6: we're not going to be able to sign Trey Hendrickson,

1474
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 6: so we have to pivot to something else. Then on

1475
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 6: Monday morning, the Cowboys decide that they're going to trade

1476
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 6: for Rashan Gary instead, and I think at that point

1477
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 6: the Ravens said, wait a minute, so we can actually

1478
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 6: get Trey Hendrickson, who is comparable in terms of the production,

1479
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 6: and keep both of our first to our next two

1480
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 6: first round picks, and that's when they pivoted. The part

1481
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 6: that bothers me about this, Brian is just like, why

1482
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 6: are they announcing these trades so early? This legal tampering period,

1483
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 6: which is an oxymoron by the way, is just insane.

1484
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 6: And I think it's putting a lot of carts before horses,

1485
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 6: where teams are finding out that they're pivoting to other

1486
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 6: things before things are official. And I think the culprit

1487
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 6: here is this legal tampering period. I'm okay with what

1488
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 6: the Ravens did. It was a little bit unethical, but

1489
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 6: I'm okay with what they did. It wasn't illegal. It's

1490
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 6: just this this this need for the NFL to own

1491
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:15,799
Speaker 6: all of this time and announce all of these trades

1492
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 6: and announce all of these signings so early because they

1493
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 6: want to dominate the calendar. It's causing a lot more

1494
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,719
Speaker 6: problems than it is than it is solutions. So I'm

1495
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:27,440
Speaker 6: happy for you know, trade to get in with Baltimore,

1496
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 6: but it's it was a weird, weird situation.

1497
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 3: I think if they're going to do the legal tampering period,

1498
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 3: any verbal agreements are solidified, there's no backing out. We'll

1499
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,719
Speaker 3: just wait for the new league year and then it's official,

1500
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 3: but there's no backing out once you verbally agree that

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01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:43,719
Speaker 3: needs to happen.

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01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 2: It shouldn't be a test balloon.

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01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:47,600
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Like you have this blockbuster

1504
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:49,799
Speaker 3: trade and I don't know, Ravens fans are.

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01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 2: Like, what two first round picks?

1506
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 4: What?

1507
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 3: And they're like, you know what, Maybe on second thought,

1508
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 3: it shouldn't be like that. And the last thing I'll

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01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 3: say very quickly is to your point, Rich, if you

1510
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 3: look at these first round picks and the Ravens, what

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01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 3: they've done with their first round picks too. They've been

1512
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 3: very good at drafting shrewdly where they got Lamar in

1513
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 3: the first round, they got Tyler Linderbaum in the first round.

1514
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,680
Speaker 3: They have Kyle Hamilton, who is a baller in the

1515
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 3: first round. Fourteenth overall pick. That's the pick that they

1516
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 3: have back now, fourteenth overall. So I think it works

1517
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 3: better for the Ravens doing it this way. All right,

1518
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 3: We've got rich oron Berger, Penn State All American, Jared

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Speaker 2: And it is time for the tire Rack play of

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Speaker 2: the day. Bradley driving on tore looking for the shot.

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01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 4: Drive's right, hang it from their heads?

1540
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 8: One and the cats and what Jayden Bradley hang sit

1541
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 8: for two cats onto the finals?

1542
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 2: What a game?

1543
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 4: What a shot?

1544
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 3: Compliments of Wildcats Radio Network. Jaden Bradley The uh fallaway

1545
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 3: shot fading to his right as he nails it on

1546
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 3: the baseline. That was amazing, great final four minutes man,

1547
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 3: just shot after shot after shot was going down a

1548
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 3: lot of fun.

1549
01:18:55,920 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 2: All right, let's dive into this drop it up player

1550
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 2: plays Ah yes, the prop betting market. Jared, I know

1551
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 2: you're fired up for this. What do you have for

1552
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 2: us today?

1553
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 10: Oh?

1554
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 6: This is I feel like this is easy, guys. Darius

1555
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 6: A cup over twenty three and a half points minus

1556
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 6: one oh five odds at that MGN listen. He had

1557
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 6: twenty six points on just one mad three when Ole

1558
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 6: Miss and Arkansas played back in January. Rebels are playing

1559
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 6: their fourth game and four nights. They are the first

1560
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 6: ever fifteen seed to make a conference semi final appearance.

1561
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 6: All Miss has gotta be gassed after beating Bama last night.

1562
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 6: They have been going through the ringer. I think a

1563
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 6: cup has a big game. Arkansas moves on to the

1564
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 6: SEC Final over twenty three and a half points with

1565
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:45,600
Speaker 6: a frash.

1566
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 5: Okay, I am gonna take Donovan den the under on

1567
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 5: his point total today.

1568
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 6: Woo.

1569
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 5: So sixteen and a half is the number, and it

1570
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 5: is a little spicy because he's been on fuego lately.

1571
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 5: The average is only about thirteen and a half points

1572
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 5: per game. Obviously, he's woken up in the tournament. UCLA

1573
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 5: uses him as a playmaker first, not a volume scorer,

1574
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 5: so stat lot usually fills up with a lot of

1575
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 5: assists more than points, and I think against this perdue defense,

1576
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:20,919
Speaker 5: we're gonna see a lot more ball movement, more typical

1577
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 5: UCLA style of play today. So give me the under

1578
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 5: sixteen and a half points for Donovan Dent today against

1579
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:28,600
Speaker 5: the boiler Makers.

1580
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna look at that same game, Rich,

1581
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:34,679
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Trey Kaufman Ren give me over

1582
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,680
Speaker 2: eight and a half rebounds for a few reasons.

1583
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 3: Tyler billdo with UCLA, Yeah, banged up yesterday. He's probably

1584
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 3: gonna miss this game. His head coach Nick Cronin said

1585
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 3: it'd be a miracle if he played at this semi finals.

1586
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 3: So I don't expect him to go, and that means

1587
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 3: Trey Kaufman Wren will be vacuuming up rebounds here. I

1588
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 3: look for Purdue to have a big matchup advantage down

1589
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 3: low and on thet.

1590
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 2: The only problem is lost Brian there, Oh Oscar Kluff.

1591
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:08,719
Speaker 3: He grabs rebounds here left and right too, So hopefully

1592
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 3: Kluff doesn't beat Ren for rebounds.

1593
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 2: By the way, side, note it.

1594
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 3: Doesn't his initial don't roll off the tongue, you know,

1595
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 3: like JFK JSN.

1596
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 2: We got t k R.

1597
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 3: I don't know, but anyway, I'm still going with TKR

1598
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 3: over eight and a half rebounds.

1599
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 2: I think he gets there.

1600
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 3: We got more hoops previews rolling on next, Oh, what

1601
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 3: is going on? Welcome in Happy Saturday to you. You know,

1602
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 3: if you like a little rock em sock them with

1603
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 3: your hoops. We got a couple of candidates over here,

1604
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 3: got a trio of games, So I'm looking at a

1605
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 3: couple of games. The totals one thirty seven and a half.

1606
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 3: Another game, the totals one forty and a half. Let's

1607
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 3: just pick one of the three. How about Houston and

1608
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 3: Arizona Jared for the Big twelve Crown. We're on a

1609
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 3: real court, no goofy led slip and sliding falling all

1610
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 3: over the place. We're on a wooden court here, and

1611
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 3: we all know Houston's defensive credentials. Arizona favored by two

1612
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 3: and a half. The total is one thirty seven and

1613
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 3: a half. Where you're like, ugh, gross, Arizona's playing in

1614
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 3: this game and it's one thirty seven and a half.

1615
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 3: That's how good Houston's defense is. Do you like anything

1616
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 3: sider total in this one? For the Big twelve Crown here, Jared.

1617
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I kind of like Arizona a little bit. I

1618
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 6: do think they're a team that at their core, I

1619
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 6: think they're better than Houston. Like I think Arizona's got

1620
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 6: the best players on the floor here. Houston, I think

1621
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 6: is a little bit tougher like. I would say they're

1622
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 6: a little more battle tested. But I think Arizona to

1623
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 6: me is a team that can win the national championship.

1624
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 6: I don't view Houston in that top tier. I think

1625
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 6: they're in the next tier. Now again, Calvin Samson's el

1626
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 6: AA coach. This is actually a really good game. Earlier

1627
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 6: this year in Houston, Arizona went in the Houston and won,

1628
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 6: so you get a little revenge element there. I think

1629
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 6: Kingston Flemings is probably the best player on Houston in

1630
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 6: terms of the upside. Emmanuel Sharp's the most experienced. They

1631
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 6: do have a couple bigs that I like. Tuggler has

1632
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:13,599
Speaker 6: been around the block, right, He's the more experienced big

1633
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 6: on the team. Sinak the freshman, not quite his experience,

1634
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 6: but I would say has the size to give Arizona's

1635
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 6: lengths some problems. But this is an Arizona team that

1636
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 6: I think I don't like. Over the last few years,

1637
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 6: they haven't really impressed me in terms of their national

1638
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 6: championship ability. Of course, last year with Caleb Love and

1639
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 6: Brian I know Caleb Love love hate relationship with gayleb

1640
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 6: Glove over the years, right, he was their best player

1641
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 6: last year, and that's why we didn't love Arizona. They

1642
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 6: lost a duke in a great game in the Sweet

1643
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 6: sixteen last year. This year, I view Arizona in more

1644
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,640
Speaker 6: high regard. I think Bradley right Big twelve Player of

1645
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 6: the Year. I think he has more of the assassin

1646
01:23:56,439 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 6: likeability that Caleb Love maybe didn't. And I love their bigs,

1647
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 6: Crevis and the other kid. I'm not even gonna try

1648
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 6: to pronounce his last name from Germany, Kartchuk nof. I

1649
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:10,639
Speaker 6: apologize to his parents. But this is an Arizona team

1650
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 6: that I think has the ability to not only win

1651
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 6: the national championship, but I think they are a cut above,

1652
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 6: just a cut, not a significant gap. But I do

1653
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:22,759
Speaker 6: think their players are just slightly better than Houston's players.

1654
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned the regular season matchup, because

1655
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 3: Arizona beat Houston at its own game. You know, Houston

1656
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 3: fantastic defensively, But what happened in that regular season game.

1657
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 3: Arizona won. It's seventy three to sixty six. But what

1658
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 3: happened was Houston committed twelve turnovers. Arizona had nine steals

1659
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 3: in that game, and so they were all over passing lanes.

1660
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 3: They played like Houston in that game. So in this

1661
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 3: rematch for the Big Twelve Championship, can Arizona do that again?

1662
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 3: I love those matchups where the reputation might not actually

1663
01:24:59,000 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 3: be the reality.

1664
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 4: You know, where.

1665
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 3: Houston they played great defense. I would expect them to

1666
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 3: play good defense tonight against Arizona. But Arizona they don't

1667
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:13,440
Speaker 3: have the reputation of like, whoa look out for Arizona defensively,

1668
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 3: the Wildcats were just get after you. They don't have

1669
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 3: that reputation, but that was the reality in the regular

1670
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 3: season matchup. So Rich, That's what I've got my eye

1671
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 3: on is can Arizona play as good a defense tonight

1672
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 3: as they did in that regular season matchup because they're capable,

1673
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 3: they just don't have the reputation for doing so.

1674
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's uh, what's what's interesting about this game is,

1675
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 5: you know, Arizona is one of the highest scoring teams

1676
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:47,679
Speaker 5: in the country. They're averaging eighty eight points per game.

1677
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 5: I mean, we've all seen it.

1678
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 2: Anybody's yep, lost round man Matt Painter again, he wasn't

1679
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 2: even talking.

1680
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he's he's he's kind of he's kind of

1681
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 6: throwing a Wrench in our entire show today. I think

1682
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 6: the point I think the point that Rich was trying

1683
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:09,759
Speaker 6: to make just about about Houston's ability to rebound and score.

1684
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 6: I just there's something about Houston and it seemed and

1685
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 6: we've seen this before. I mean, they were a National

1686
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 6: championship game last year. Guys like this is this is

1687
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 6: a team that I think we hold in high regard.

1688
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 6: It's not a knock on Houston to say that Arizona's

1689
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 6: players are better. I just think there's something about them

1690
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 6: that when they get in these championship games, they struggled

1691
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 6: to get buckets and that that was what separated Florida

1692
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 6: last year. And that's why, as much as I love Florida,

1693
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 6: this year, they need to shoot their average from three

1694
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:44,639
Speaker 6: because Florida does not have the guy last year who

1695
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 6: was the supreme bucket getter, Walter Klay. I mean, this

1696
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 6: guy was a walking bucket last year. Like Houston doesn't

1697
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 6: have that guy either, And I think that's where I

1698
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 6: struggle with a team like Houston, where when you look

1699
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 6: at a team like Arizona, and we saw it last night,

1700
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 6: they needed a bucket late in the game. What happened

1701
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 6: It wasn't a great shot. You said it, Jake Bradley

1702
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 6: was a terrible shot, didn't matter, went in. Like that's

1703
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 6: what good bucket getters can do in late game scenarios.

1704
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 6: And if it is a late game, tight game scenario

1705
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:16,480
Speaker 6: between these two teams, like I would even put Arizona

1706
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 6: or Iowa States bucket getters above Houston's. I just think

1707
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 6: Houston doesn't have that guy late in the shot clock time,

1708
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 6: winding down, close game, go get me a bucket. I

1709
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 6: just don't know if Houston has that guy where I

1710
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 6: think I know, I watched it last night. Arizona does right.

1711
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 2: Well, I hear you.

1712
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 3: Kingston Flemings is fantastic, and but to your point, I

1713
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 3: don't think they have Like Kingston Flemings can get you

1714
01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 3: a bucket. But when it's just isolation, your shot clock

1715
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:52,679
Speaker 3: and game plot going down to the bare nubs, like just.

1716
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 2: Make something happen.

1717
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I hear why you would you would favor

1718
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 3: Arizona when it comes to that. Houston gets a lot

1719
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:02,840
Speaker 3: of quality looks through non isolation, you know what I mean.

1720
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 3: They move the ball around, they get a matchup, they

1721
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 3: throw a pass where a guy catches it and is

1722
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 3: able to cut and create something that way. It's not

1723
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 3: so much here you go, dude, five seconds left, just

1724
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 3: do your thing. That's really not their offense at all.

1725
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 2: So I hear you.

1726
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:19,559
Speaker 3: How about this too, If we look at another game

1727
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 3: where the total is the exact same, Virginia against Duke,

1728
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:26,680
Speaker 3: the Duchies are favored by seven and a half. The

1729
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 3: total is again one thirty seven and a half. What's interesting.

1730
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 3: I don't know if you ever do this, Jared. Where

1731
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 3: I'll do this sometimes in college hoops, are certainly in

1732
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 3: the NFL, where I'll look at two different games and

1733
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 3: let's just say the total is the exact same. Would

1734
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 3: I rather get in on the total with Houston Arizona

1735
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 3: at one thirty seven and a half or Virginia Duke

1736
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 3: at one thirty seven and a half, and I'll kind

1737
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 3: of play those games out. I don't know any leans

1738
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 3: in the Virginia Duke game for you.

1739
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Virginia's gonna shoot it back. And we

1740
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:00,080
Speaker 6: talked to Seamus in the last hour about this. I

1741
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:01,640
Speaker 6: think Virginia is gonna shoot him better than they did

1742
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 6: in that first game. I actually think Duke's been over valued.

1743
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 6: I think in this tournament. They're dealing with a very

1744
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 6: short bench, and we already know that they've got a

1745
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 6: key injury that they've been dealing with pretty much for

1746
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 6: the last couple of weeks with Caleb Foster and and

1747
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 6: they were banged up yesterday. They were in foul trouble yesterday,

1748
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 6: and frankly, Clemson played one of their worst games that

1749
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 6: I've seen them play in a while. I was on

1750
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 6: Clemson last night plus eleven and a half, almost got home.

1751
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 6: They lost by twelve. They played a terrible first half,

1752
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 6: much better second half, and they were actually within the

1753
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 6: number in the final minute, and Duke had a meaningless

1754
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 6: offensive rebound put back that that put him at twelve,

1755
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,600
Speaker 6: and I lost by the whole tough, tough loss for me,

1756
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 6: but it was, yeah, it was I've had some Listen,

1757
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 6: if you bet on college basketball every day, you're gonna

1758
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 6: swing back and forth with these bad beats. But I

1759
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 6: think when I when I look at this Duke team,

1760
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 6: I do think they are as tough as they come.

1761
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 6: And and we talked about it. I think it was

1762
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:57,679
Speaker 6: two weeks ago when they beat Michigan, maybe it was three.

1763
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 6: I was on Michigan in that game. And I thought

1764
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 6: Michigan was the tougher, bigger, stronger, faster team because they

1765
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 6: were older, a little bit wiser, and I thought they

1766
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:08,719
Speaker 6: had the talent to match Duke, but Duke out muscled

1767
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 6: them in that game. Duke really shook. That was the

1768
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 6: game I think when I changed my opinion on Duke

1769
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,720
Speaker 6: from a team that was plucky and you know, had

1770
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 6: the high end talent, but they were super young, and

1771
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:22,160
Speaker 6: I didn't know if they had the ability to overcome

1772
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:26,679
Speaker 6: an experienced unit that also had the size and the skill,

1773
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 6: which Michigan obviously is on that level. But when they

1774
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:31,880
Speaker 6: overcame that hurdle against Michigan, I was like, Okay, this

1775
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 6: team's got some toughness to him that maybe I'm not

1776
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 6: giving them credit for now. Virginia, on the other hand,

1777
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 6: wants to spread you out and shoot the three. Now,

1778
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 6: they don't run a very fast tempo, but they are

1779
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 6: one of the highest three point attempt to field goal

1780
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:44,600
Speaker 6: attempt teams in the country. So it's another one of

1781
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:47,680
Speaker 6: those scenarios where when they played Duke back on the

1782
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 6: twenty eighth, they could not make a shot from three.

1783
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 6: They were seven from thirty five from three and Duke

1784
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 6: was twelve from twenty four from three. So when you

1785
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 6: have that big of an edge at the three point line,

1786
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:00,080
Speaker 6: it's really tough to overcome. I thought Virginia play a

1787
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 6: pretty good game at cameraon only turned it over nine times.

1788
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 6: They were bullied a little bit on the glass, But

1789
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,759
Speaker 6: I think this is this game very much. Brian reminds

1790
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 6: me of the Wisconsin Michigan game. I think if Wisconsin's

1791
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:11,519
Speaker 6: threes are falling, they're going to keep it within the

1792
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:14,559
Speaker 6: number against Michigan. I think if Virginia's threes are falling,

1793
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 6: they will not only keep it within the number against Duke,

1794
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 6: but it will asso go over the total. Duke just has

1795
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 6: a really good ability to pick out what you do well.

1796
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 6: They're kind of remind me defensively the number one defensive

1797
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 6: team in the country. In terms of Ken pomp. They

1798
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 6: kind of remind me of the peak Patriots with Belichick,

1799
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 6: like they know what you want to do well and

1800
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:33,559
Speaker 6: they're gonna take that away. That's what they did last

1801
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 6: night the Clempson That's what they've done during this winning

1802
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:38,640
Speaker 6: streak that they've had. I just I don't know if

1803
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:40,679
Speaker 6: the threes are going to fall like it's a really

1804
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:41,679
Speaker 6: tough thing to predict.

1805
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 3: I would go back to that Duke Florida State game.

1806
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:49,640
Speaker 3: I loved Florida State's game plan offensively. They were like

1807
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 3: the Phoenix Suns seven seconds or less offense. You know,

1808
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 3: like if you think about it, makes so much sense.

1809
01:31:56,160 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 3: Duke playing half court defense. Good luck they are defensively,

1810
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 3: and Florida State was like, we're just going quick, you know,

1811
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:07,600
Speaker 3: like we're gonna find a like a makeable shot, a

1812
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 3: quality look, and let it freaking fly. Like they were

1813
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 3: not interested in just you know, ball movement. Move it,

1814
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:17,679
Speaker 3: move it, you know, like, Okay, we're eating up twenty

1815
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 3: five seconds of the shot clock and then we take

1816
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 3: our opportunity. It's like just move it, like get into

1817
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 3: a flow. Let's see some pace offensively, and I thought

1818
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,439
Speaker 3: that was a really really smart game plan, and Florida

1819
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:31,759
Speaker 3: State almost knocked them off.

1820
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 2: So that's just not what Virginia does, though, Jared. You know,

1821
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 2: they go a lot slower now and they speed it

1822
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 2: up a little bit then what they used to do

1823
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:43,840
Speaker 2: with Bennett over there, but they're not you know, like

1824
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 2: the Phoenix Suns what I just said from the seven

1825
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 2: seconds or less era.

1826
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 3: So I'm interested in that. Man, I didn't realize to

1827
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:52,599
Speaker 3: put back yesterday.

1828
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:54,720
Speaker 6: Were you watching that game last night?

1829
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:56,639
Speaker 2: I was watching It was crazy, is man.

1830
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 3: I hate these games where you're like, if you were

1831
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 3: on Clemson, You're like, I'm dead, Like I know I'm dead.

1832
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought it was.

1833
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 3: Over in the first there's this glimmer of hope, like,

1834
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:07,640
Speaker 3: wait a minute, we're kind of echin back in this

1835
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:11,320
Speaker 3: in garbage time late and then you're covering and it

1836
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 3: just so happens where Duke, they could have ran out

1837
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:17,000
Speaker 3: their shot clock, but there's probably like ten seconds left,

1838
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 3: so like, a screw it, let's just take a shot.

1839
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:22,440
Speaker 2: It's off, And they just crashed the glass.

1840
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 3: And get a put back and that's Ah, I didn't

1841
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 3: realize that's oh they cover.

1842
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 6: That's disgusting. It was and I'm not saying listen, these

1843
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 6: games are not rigged. I don't think these guys are,

1844
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 6: you know, trying to throw games. But I do think

1845
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 6: they are aware of the number. I think the coaches

1846
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:39,600
Speaker 6: especially are aware of the number. And I think it

1847
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 6: matters to the boosters. I mean, if you think that

1848
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 6: there wasn't every guy in that or a girl who

1849
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 6: you know, I don't want discriminate against sex when it

1850
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:48,719
Speaker 6: comes to betting on the games. But if you don't

1851
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:51,680
Speaker 6: think that every human being in that arena last night

1852
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:54,720
Speaker 6: that was betting the game was not aware of the

1853
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 6: number in the final minute, I mean it's and I'm

1854
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 6: sure that energy seeps in to the bench and maybe

1855
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 6: they don't know the exact number it closed because they

1856
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 6: don't functually weight a point or two here or there,

1857
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 6: but they know that they're a favorite by a certain amount.

1858
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:12,560
Speaker 6: And I think that probably didn't play a factor in

1859
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 6: that final possession, but.

1860
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 4: It might have.

1861
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:18,560
Speaker 6: It might have if we talk about pat State a

1862
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:20,680
Speaker 6: lot on the show. Obviously we got two alums. If

1863
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 6: you don't think James Franklin knows the number every week, yeah,

1864
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:28,639
Speaker 6: I mean these they are aware of the number because

1865
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 6: they know their boosters are betting on the games. And

1866
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 6: I think it's it comes down to it, but the

1867
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 6: basketball world's very different than the football world because there's

1868
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:38,200
Speaker 6: so many right, There's so many possessions and it's so

1869
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 6: fluid that it's just it's hard to narrow it down

1870
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 6: to like one. All that that's the moment where they

1871
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 6: knew they were gonna cover. But yeah, I was. I

1872
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:47,680
Speaker 6: was dead for a while last night, and we were

1873
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 6: alive for a few seconds and then and then we

1874
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 6: ended up going back to dead.

1875
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 2: By the way, I was, it's funny.

1876
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 3: I'll tell you a real fast story and we'll get

1877
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 3: into the Johnny's over here, but very quick story.

1878
01:34:58,640 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 2: Yesterday, I was at the gym.

1879
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 3: I'm late, just the way that Jay the day played out,

1880
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:04,840
Speaker 3: and one of my friends he texted me and he

1881
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 3: was like, dude, I'm live betting the under in this

1882
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:10,439
Speaker 3: Miami game, Like no one.

1883
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 2: Can score, no one can score in.

1884
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:16,840
Speaker 3: This game, and and and so I was watching it.

1885
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm under fifty eight and a half in

1886
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 3: the first half, and it just so happens. It's at

1887
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 3: fifty eight with one possession to go right, and so

1888
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 3: like Miami turns it over and the other team races

1889
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:35,160
Speaker 3: down to the other end, and it looked like as

1890
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 3: soon as the turnover happened, I'm like, oh, Jay's dead.

1891
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 3: You know they're gonna get a layup at the buzzer

1892
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:42,799
Speaker 3: and there wasn't enough time. And so the guy pulls

1893
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:45,639
Speaker 3: up for a three and I'm like, oh my, unless

1894
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 3: he hits this, Jay's good.

1895
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:50,400
Speaker 2: Swish like he didn't have time.

1896
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:52,599
Speaker 3: For the layup, hit the three and it goes over

1897
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 3: the first half line. That was crazy, but the joys

1898
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:58,080
Speaker 3: of betting right there. One more to throw at you

1899
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:02,000
Speaker 3: real quick. How about Yukon and Sane John's one forty

1900
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 3: and a half is the total?

1901
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:06,639
Speaker 2: Uh, the Yukon is favored by three and a half.

1902
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 3: Now you remember the last time these teams met, Saint

1903
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 3: John's little rough to put it mildly, offensively, scored forty points.

1904
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 3: The Johnnys did not hit a field goal in the

1905
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 3: final seventeen and a half minutes.

1906
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 2: Oh god, they didn't have a field goal.

1907
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 6: So guess it was on Guess it was on Seaton

1908
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:28,639
Speaker 6: Hall plus oh yesterday?

1909
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:30,719
Speaker 4: Oh my god? Oh man?

1910
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah right, well hey, uh yeah, Seaton Hall battled back

1911
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:35,760
Speaker 3: in that one, made it respectable.

1912
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 2: But what what do you see in this one?

1913
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:38,240
Speaker 1: Though?

1914
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 3: Rich Yukon Saint John's the rematch. Saint John's couldn't have

1915
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 3: been worse offensively the last time, but it's still it's

1916
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:45,800
Speaker 3: a short spread.

1917
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:47,480
Speaker 2: Yukon minus three and a half.

1918
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 4: Yeah it is.

1919
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 5: And uh, you know, this is one of those games

1920
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:54,719
Speaker 5: where this is a clash of philosophies in the same

1921
01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:59,600
Speaker 5: exact lane. Yukon plays one of the slowest tempos in

1922
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 5: the common difference. They they intentionally try to play like

1923
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:06,840
Speaker 5: ball control offense. Like think about an NFL team or

1924
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 5: a college football team with a great run game, where

1925
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 5: they're just gonna milk the clock. They're gonna take every

1926
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 5: single possession in the half court as far as they can.

1927
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 5: Saint John's, on the other hand, plays the fastest pace

1928
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:21,760
Speaker 5: in the league. So you're gonna have this, you know,

1929
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 5: the Johnny's trying to run the court, you're gonna have

1930
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 5: Yukon trying to slow it down. I would I would

1931
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 5: say though, where I would say the biggest uh fly

1932
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 5: in the ointment for Yukon is the fact that Saint

1933
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 5: John's defense is kind of the exact type of defense

1934
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 5: that bothers Yukon. Typically, they defend with length, they aggressively

1935
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:50,800
Speaker 5: defend the perimeter. This can disrupt Yukon's offense, which is

1936
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 5: predicated in the half court off of motion and and

1937
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:58,439
Speaker 5: shot creation and ball movement. Like they're they're going to

1938
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 5: be stuck. You know, there's not gonna be a lot

1939
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 5: of Hey, let's settle back in zone and see what happens,

1940
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:07,160
Speaker 5: like Saint John's is in your face the entire game.

1941
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 5: So so if if the johnny show up to play,

1942
01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:15,240
Speaker 5: if this is a game where their defense is is stocked,

1943
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:15,760
Speaker 5: locked and.

1944
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:17,880
Speaker 4: Loaded, it's gould it could be a long day for

1945
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 4: the huskis.

1946
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:21,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I kind of lean, I kind of lean Saint

1947
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 6: John's here. I do think Patino in these spots or

1948
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 6: is interesting. The line's kind of right down the middle

1949
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 6: of where we saw the prior to matchups. Right, they

1950
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 6: played as as Brian mentioned that that game back in

1951
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:36,839
Speaker 6: late February where Saint John's was just they were dreadful

1952
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 6: in the second half. You know, that game was you know,

1953
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:41,200
Speaker 6: Ukon was five and a half point favorite at home.

1954
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:43,639
Speaker 6: Total was one forty four and a half. A few

1955
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 6: weeks prior to that, Saint John's had a nice win

1956
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 6: at home and that game was the Johnny's were basically

1957
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 6: a one, one and a half point dog. So now

1958
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 6: we're kind of right in the middle, right, We're on

1959
01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 6: a neutral court, technically neutral court, it's you know, Saint

1960
01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:59,439
Speaker 6: John's home court. But let's be honest, you can you

1961
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 6: know and SG South or you know the store South.

1962
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 6: I guess for MSG for this Yukon team, So there'll

1963
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:07,280
Speaker 6: be tons of Huskies fans in the building. It'll be

1964
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:10,759
Speaker 6: a very good atmosphere, probably very you know, a firm

1965
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 6: neutral site. And Yukon's about a three point favorite. Totals

1966
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:15,759
Speaker 6: dropped a little bit to one forty and a half.

1967
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 6: I think Yukon yesterday was they didn't miss yesterday. I

1968
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:23,559
Speaker 6: was on the over in the game against Xavier the

1969
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:25,599
Speaker 6: other night and they were good in that game. And

1970
01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:27,840
Speaker 6: I just think this Yukon team, when they're at their peak,

1971
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 6: they are a very free motion offense. I do like

1972
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 6: this Yukon offense a lot when they're hitting their threes,

1973
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 6: especially Caravan. But I just something about this Johnny's team

1974
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 6: in the garden with Patino. It's got a lot of toughness.

1975
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 6: I think I would take the points. I would probably

1976
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 6: take the points. I think Yukon's a fade for me

1977
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 6: in March. I think they're one of the more vulnerable

1978
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:49,680
Speaker 6: higher seeds. Not to say they're not a good team,

1979
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 6: but I think they're not a team that I trust

1980
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:56,040
Speaker 6: in the big moments. So I would say not my

1981
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:57,760
Speaker 6: favorite look of the day, but I would probably lean

1982
01:39:57,800 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 6: to the Johnny's catching points in this one.

1983
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:02,400
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1984
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1985
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1993
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1994
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1995
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2007
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2008
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 2: How about we look at the SEC fellas, because it

2009
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:13,880
Speaker 2: just means more, just means more. You look at Old Miss,

2010
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 2: that's the team that I mentioned going to break where

2011
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 2: their record is fifteen and nineteen, and yet they have

2012
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:26,320
Speaker 2: not trailed at any point in the SEC tournament. That

2013
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 2: should change today against Arkansas, But to this point, it's like,

2014
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:33,639
Speaker 2: how what run that by me again? Exactly? But yeah,

2015
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:34,479
Speaker 2: they've played well.

2016
01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 3: They didn't trail at all against Alabama's they took they

2017
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 3: held on for dear life and beat them by a point.

2018
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 3: But they move on and listen, Jared, you talked about it.

2019
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:48,200
Speaker 3: Darius Acuff Junior. The guy is a freaking baller. He's fantastic,

2020
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:52,600
Speaker 3: outstanding point guard for Cow's Razorbacks, and he's going to

2021
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 3: be more than a handful today against Old Miss. And

2022
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:58,720
Speaker 3: I would expect some offensive fireworks in this one.

2023
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:01,760
Speaker 5: Oh, there's no there is absolutely no doubt, you know,

2024
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 5: And thinking about Ole Miss completely different from the conversation

2025
01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:10,679
Speaker 5: we were just having about UCLA heading into their matchup

2026
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:13,639
Speaker 5: against Purdue. How they have so much momentum left over

2027
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 5: from the end of the regular season. Going into a

2028
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:20,960
Speaker 5: game where Purdue is favored over over UCLA, you kind

2029
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:23,559
Speaker 5: of feel like, oh, maybe some of that regular season

2030
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:26,640
Speaker 5: magic will carry over into the tournament. This is the

2031
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:31,719
Speaker 5: exact opposite. The Rebels really struggled in the regular season.

2032
01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 5: They lost twelve of their previous thirteen games before the tournament,

2033
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 5: but momentum has arrived. Old Miss has already knocked off Texas,

2034
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:45,439
Speaker 5: they knocked off number fifteen Alabama. They reached this semi

2035
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:49,439
Speaker 5: final game against the Arkansas Razor Pigs, and you know,

2036
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:53,639
Speaker 5: it's a classic offense versus defensive matchup. Arkansas averages about

2037
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:57,040
Speaker 5: ninety points per game. Old Miss averages around seventy five

2038
01:42:57,080 --> 01:43:00,280
Speaker 5: and a half. But Ole Miss tends to win with

2039
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 5: defense and disruption. They're they're not worried about scoring, they're

2040
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:09,960
Speaker 5: not worried about volume. They're just trying to slow your

2041
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 5: pace down into a halting, defensive grind. And Arkansas wants

2042
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:19,120
Speaker 5: to play high tempo. So it is going to be

2043
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:24,120
Speaker 5: a really fun matchup between two teams that you know,

2044
01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 5: you could make the argument just days ago that Arkansas

2045
01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:29,799
Speaker 5: outclasses ole Miss in every way.

2046
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 4: But here here's ole Miss on fire right.

2047
01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:38,840
Speaker 6: Now, what a fun coaching matchup. Obviously Calip Barry on

2048
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 6: one side, legend, but Chris Beard deserves a lot of credit.

2049
01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:45,040
Speaker 6: I know it was a tough end for him at

2050
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:47,599
Speaker 6: Texas right, and then took the twenty twenty three season off,

2051
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:50,559
Speaker 6: took over this ole Miss team in twenty twenty four,

2052
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:53,240
Speaker 6: an ole Miss team that won twelve games in twenty

2053
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:56,760
Speaker 6: twenty three. Well, his first season in twenty four, they

2054
01:43:56,760 --> 01:44:01,120
Speaker 6: were a twenty win team, didn't make the NCAA tournament.

2055
01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:03,040
Speaker 6: We're kind of right on the bubble, didn't didn't quite

2056
01:44:03,080 --> 01:44:06,160
Speaker 6: get there. And then last year, of course, made a

2057
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:08,200
Speaker 6: really nice run to the sweet sixteen as a sixth

2058
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:10,680
Speaker 6: seed beat Iowa State. They had a really good year

2059
01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:13,639
Speaker 6: last year. I really liked this team. Padula, the senior

2060
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:18,320
Speaker 6: Virginia Tech transfer, did a really nice job. Now I

2061
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:21,320
Speaker 6: don't want to say they're on the bubble because they're

2062
01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:25,320
Speaker 6: under five hundred, but what they've done to get to

2063
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 6: this point is remarkable, and they could steal a bit

2064
01:44:28,160 --> 01:44:30,880
Speaker 6: from someone for sure. So you have to give again

2065
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 6: Chris Beard a lot of credit because they had a

2066
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:35,720
Speaker 6: terrible stretch to the season, as Rich alluded to, where

2067
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:37,760
Speaker 6: they were an eleven and eighteen heading into a game

2068
01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:40,720
Speaker 6: against Auburn back in late January and then didn't win

2069
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:43,680
Speaker 6: a game again until they beat Auburn in late February.

2070
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:46,360
Speaker 6: They went basically an entire month, actually closer to six

2071
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:49,240
Speaker 6: weeks without a win, and then they lost a couple

2072
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 6: of games to Vandy, tough one in overtime at home,

2073
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:53,240
Speaker 6: and then lost to South Carolina by a bucket at

2074
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 6: home to end the year. And now here they are

2075
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:59,280
Speaker 6: in the SEC semifinals. The question is, Brian right, I

2076
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:02,519
Speaker 6: do like the the guard, the star power I'd say

2077
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:05,599
Speaker 6: of this Ole Miss team. Aj Store Wisconsin transfer played

2078
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:08,120
Speaker 6: at Kansas last year. He's really found himself a nice home.

2079
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:10,479
Speaker 6: Eleak Dea was on that Sweet sixteen team a couple

2080
01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:12,479
Speaker 6: of years ago, so they've got some experience, they've got

2081
01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:15,080
Speaker 6: some scoring. The question is how much petrol do they

2082
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:17,160
Speaker 6: have left in the tank. After three days in a

2083
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:20,320
Speaker 6: row against Texas and Georgia and Alabama, they played seventy

2084
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 6: four possession games against Georgia and Alabama. Alabama just runs

2085
01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:25,240
Speaker 6: up and down.

2086
01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 4: All game long.

2087
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:28,920
Speaker 6: Now you're facing this Arkansas team. We know how good

2088
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 6: Acuff is, but they also have some size in the

2089
01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:35,640
Speaker 6: interior and this you know overall, you know, pace of

2090
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 6: this Arkansas team just wears you down. So I'm fascinated

2091
01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:44,120
Speaker 6: to see how they handle it. You know, Oklahoma last

2092
01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:47,040
Speaker 6: night gave Arkansas hell of a game. They really did,

2093
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 6: but Arkansas was able to overcome it. I thought, you know,

2094
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 6: Oklahoma maybe played a little bit above their number last night.

2095
01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:56,320
Speaker 6: And when you overcome a game like that where Arkansas

2096
01:45:56,360 --> 01:45:58,960
Speaker 6: frankly didn't shoot it that well, they've shot it okay,

2097
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 6: not that well. I think they'll play better today. I

2098
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:03,960
Speaker 6: think they'll win this game today. But the question is

2099
01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:06,080
Speaker 6: is Old Miss do they have anything left in the tank. Brian,

2100
01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:07,439
Speaker 6: I'm not sure the answer to that question.

2101
01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:11,400
Speaker 3: It's a tough one, right because they've played so well,

2102
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:16,120
Speaker 3: they've been hot. But you're, like Rich said it before

2103
01:46:16,160 --> 01:46:20,680
Speaker 3: the tournament, they lost twelve of thirteen, so you're like,

2104
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 3: when do they realize, Oh, I just turned into a

2105
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:25,800
Speaker 3: toad right here, you know what I mean? Like it

2106
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:28,880
Speaker 3: could be today against Arkansas. The one thing, though, it's

2107
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:32,280
Speaker 3: not like Arkansas plays lockdown defense. So a team like

2108
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 3: Old Miss, who's been hot. Arkansas's lack of defense, it

2109
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:40,599
Speaker 3: lends itself to maybe Old Miss staying hot offensively and

2110
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:43,800
Speaker 3: making it a game potentially on the table. How about

2111
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 3: Vanderbilt and Florida. That's the other SEC matchup. We all

2112
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:50,639
Speaker 3: know Florida's credentials defensively, especially their front court.

2113
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:52,439
Speaker 2: I mean just playing bully ball.

2114
01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 3: You know, when you look at it's amazing just to

2115
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 3: look at the prop bets and chin Yulu, who's the

2116
01:46:58,040 --> 01:47:01,400
Speaker 3: best rebounder in college basketball. It's at eleven and a half.

2117
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:04,679
Speaker 3: You're like, holy cow, eleven and a half. He might

2118
01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:05,120
Speaker 3: get there.

2119
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:05,479
Speaker 4: You know.

2120
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:09,519
Speaker 3: It's it's tough with Ginulu, but vanderbilts up against it today.

2121
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 3: Florida is just a freight train right now. I just

2122
01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:15,439
Speaker 3: don't love any piece of Vanderbilt in this matchup. That's

2123
01:47:15,439 --> 01:47:17,280
Speaker 3: how good the Gators have been down the stretch.

2124
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, Florida's size inside has already proved decisive in their

2125
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:26,280
Speaker 5: first meeting, you know, I mean when the team's met

2126
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 5: earlier this season, it wasn't the biggest margin of victory,

2127
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 5: but Florida consistently attacked the rim, they controlled the rebounding.

2128
01:47:35,560 --> 01:47:38,160
Speaker 5: Vanderbilt had to rely on perimeter scoring. And we know

2129
01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:40,800
Speaker 5: the story with that. When you're when you're trying to

2130
01:47:40,840 --> 01:47:42,880
Speaker 5: beat a team or if you're a team that's built

2131
01:47:42,920 --> 01:47:47,040
Speaker 5: around perimeter scoring, you can you can. You can score

2132
01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:49,160
Speaker 5: with a team. But you better have a hot night,

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Speaker 5: you better have a you better have your shooter shooting,

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Speaker 5: because it can get it could get to be a

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Speaker 5: long day against the sort of size that that Florida has. Look,

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Speaker 5: if Florida protects the ball, if they avoid foul trouble,

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01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:06,719
Speaker 5: which you know has bit them a couple of times

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01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:11,280
Speaker 5: this season, Vanderbilt will will lose two of its biggest

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Speaker 5: ways to create scoring.

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Speaker 4: And I mean, that's the reality of it.

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Speaker 5: I think Vanderbilt is gonna have to play pickpocket defense.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna have to generate turnovers, they're gonna have to disrupt,

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Speaker 5: and I think they're gonna have to draw a fouls.

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Speaker 5: But if Florida, if their defenders play with their feet

2145
01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:31,400
Speaker 5: instead of their hands, and if they protect the basketball,

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01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:35,360
Speaker 5: you know, I mean, the Gators feel inevitable at this point.

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Speaker 6: If Florida shoots their average from three for the rest

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Speaker 6: of March, they're going to the National Championship. At least

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Speaker 6: the final four. They're not a great shooting team. They're

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Speaker 6: about thirty one percent from three this year. Their best

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Speaker 6: shooter is Xavian Lee and Thomas Hall, and neither of

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01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:55,320
Speaker 6: those guys are really above forty percent. They're actually both

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Speaker 6: below thirty five. Xavian Lee is an interesting player, played

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Speaker 6: at Princeton, went to the Sweet sixteam with Princeton back

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01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:04,880
Speaker 6: in twenty three. He's got the most experienced. He had

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Speaker 6: a big three yesterday that really iceed the game for

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Speaker 6: Florida when Kentucky was making their run. Thomas Haw is

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Speaker 6: more of a stretch wing player. I think he has

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Speaker 6: a lot of NBA potential because he can stretch the floor.

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01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:18,280
Speaker 6: But he's only a thirty three percent three point shooter.

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Speaker 6: He probably needs to you know, hit that average for

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Speaker 6: the season, you know, in in March in order for

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Speaker 6: Florida to be good. And he did not shoot it

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Speaker 6: well yesterday, went zero for five from three. Florida was

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Speaker 6: I don't want to say fortunate to win that game,

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01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:33,320
Speaker 6: because they were they were dominant for you know, in

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01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:35,760
Speaker 6: the paint for pretty much the entire game. But if

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Speaker 6: they shoot it below their average from three, they're gonna

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Speaker 6: they're gonna get knocked off at some point by one

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Speaker 6: of these good teams that has a hot shooting day.

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Speaker 6: That being said, I don't think anyone can hang with

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Speaker 6: Florida in the paint. I honestly think if they shoot

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01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:53,200
Speaker 6: thirty percent from three for the rest of their campaign,

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Speaker 6: I don't think anybody can beat them. I just they

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01:49:56,680 --> 01:50:00,000
Speaker 6: are just so big, And the other side of them

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01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 6: missing threes is they're so damn good in the pain

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Speaker 6: they get all the rebounds, so I don't see. And

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Speaker 6: I feel the same way about Michigan, and the more

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Speaker 6: I dive into the Michigan Wisconsin game today we'll get

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Speaker 6: to this in rapid fire, the more I'm kind of

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Speaker 6: leaning towards the Michigan side. I feel the same way

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Speaker 6: about Florida today, where I just feel like in these settings, Brian,

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Speaker 6: where you're playing back to back to back to back

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01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 6: to back, the easier baskets and the tougher teams on

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01:50:23,479 --> 01:50:27,519
Speaker 6: the interior, I lean on those teams more and more because,

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Speaker 6: like you said it, and you put it eloquently, I

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01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:31,040
Speaker 6: like how you put it. It's more of a running game.

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01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:34,040
Speaker 6: It's more certain that you can get these rebounds and

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01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:36,880
Speaker 6: get these easy baskets where the three point shots, you're

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Speaker 6: playing your third game in three days, the legs just

2191
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:43,200
Speaker 6: maybe aren't there. And that's where I take a little

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Speaker 6: bit of stock away from a team like Wisconsin. I

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Speaker 6: take a little bit of stock away from a team

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Speaker 6: like Ole Miss because you have to make the shots

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01:50:51,640 --> 01:50:54,360
Speaker 6: and it's a lot harder. They're lower percentage shots. You

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01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:57,880
Speaker 6: might shoot above your average one day, but on average,

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Speaker 6: you're not going to shoot as well from three as

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Speaker 6: you from the inside. And you can bank on Florida

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Speaker 6: having a lot of easy baskets, where I don't feel

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Speaker 6: that way about Vandy. I don't feel that way about

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Speaker 6: Ole Miss. I don't feel that way about Wisconsin. So

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Speaker 6: the running game for the Gators, I think is going

2203
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:13,240
Speaker 6: to reign supreme here.

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Speaker 3: Hey man, That's why I like teams like Michigan and

2205
01:51:17,080 --> 01:51:20,599
Speaker 3: Florida so much is because their front court is so good.

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01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 3: They can play bully ball.

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01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:22,559
Speaker 2: Again.

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01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 3: It's like a running game in football. You just rely

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Speaker 3: on it it's working, and then on top of it,

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Speaker 3: if you're hitting threes.

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Speaker 2: It's like, forget about it. It's a rap.

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01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:33,759
Speaker 3: If you just have those games where, hey, Florida's shooting

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Speaker 3: a high percentage from three on top of what they

2214
01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:39,639
Speaker 3: do with their front court. It's it's over same thing

2215
01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 3: with Michigan. So when they're feeling it from outside and

2216
01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:46,400
Speaker 3: they're not relying on that, this isn't Wisconsin's offense shooting

2217
01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:49,280
Speaker 3: fifty three percent of their shots from three, you know

2218
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:51,799
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like they just dabble. It's a luxury

2219
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:55,639
Speaker 3: item with Michigan and Florida shooting threes where they don't

2220
01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:58,400
Speaker 3: have to shoot a high percentage to win games. They

2221
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 3: can just bully you with their front court. So it's

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01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:03,479
Speaker 3: just an added bonus those games that they are shooting

2223
01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:05,920
Speaker 3: it well from the perimeter. By the way, while we're

2224
01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:08,400
Speaker 3: kind of like alluding to football, why don't we just

2225
01:52:08,439 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 3: talk football real fast here? How about a couple of

2226
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:15,719
Speaker 3: wide receiver nuggets. I love this one so Aj Brown

2227
01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:19,960
Speaker 3: right now, Eagles receiver. There are reports that he's not

2228
01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:23,400
Speaker 3: gonna be dealt at this time by the Eagles after

2229
01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:28,400
Speaker 3: serious considerations, are conversations with the Rams and Patriots.

2230
01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:29,280
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it.

2231
01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:33,080
Speaker 3: I got a sports like an alert, right and I

2232
01:52:33,160 --> 01:52:36,000
Speaker 3: read the alert like the beginning of the description. It

2233
01:52:36,040 --> 01:52:38,559
Speaker 3: was like Diana Russini reports that the Eagles will not

2234
01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:42,520
Speaker 3: trade wide receiver AJ Brown at this time after serious conversations,

2235
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 3: and it said with the Patriots, and it was like

2236
01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:47,240
Speaker 3: dot dot dot. I'm like, all right, they got me.

2237
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:49,840
Speaker 3: I got to see who the other team is. I'm like,

2238
01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:50,400
Speaker 3: who could it be?

2239
01:52:50,479 --> 01:52:51,559
Speaker 2: And it's the Rams.

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Speaker 3: I'm like the what They had serious conversations trading AJ

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Speaker 3: Brown to the Rams? Bo Benson, I'll give him credit,

2242
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:01,880
Speaker 3: our trusted producer is like, I mean, if it's to

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01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:05,320
Speaker 3: sort of drive up the price tag for the Patriots, maybe.

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Speaker 2: It makes a little bit of sense.

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01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:08,680
Speaker 3: But does it make any sense to you guys that

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01:53:08,680 --> 01:53:11,759
Speaker 3: the Eagles would even entertain the idea of trading AJ

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01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:14,400
Speaker 3: Brown to the Rams, a team that could be right

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01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:18,000
Speaker 3: in their way come playoff time trying to win a championship.

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01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:20,559
Speaker 3: I can't believe they even I mean, everything has a

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01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 3: price tag. If the Rams offered them the world, they'd

2251
01:53:24,160 --> 01:53:26,759
Speaker 3: have to take it, So I guess it makes some sense,

2252
01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:31,679
Speaker 3: but they would have AJ Brown, DeVante Adams, and Puka Nakua.

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01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:33,080
Speaker 2: That's insanity, right.

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01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:35,599
Speaker 3: I'm just surprised that they were talking to the Rams

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Speaker 3: about trading AJ Brown.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it seems it seems kind of crazy, but

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01:53:40,680 --> 01:53:45,040
Speaker 5: at the same token, you know, look, AJ Brown has

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01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:50,040
Speaker 5: been a difficult character in that locker room, and when

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01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:54,960
Speaker 5: we're discussing system fit, like you know, with quarterbacks and

2260
01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:58,360
Speaker 5: things like that, it's a lot easier to have that

2261
01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:02,040
Speaker 5: conversation because we know how imant personality is at that position.

2262
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:06,040
Speaker 5: But then when you get to the receiver room, I

2263
01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:09,519
Speaker 5: would say, you know, for the most part, it is

2264
01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:11,840
Speaker 5: a little bit of plug and play. You know, you

2265
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:15,720
Speaker 5: get a guy who's comfortable running certain routes against certain defenses.

2266
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:19,240
Speaker 5: You get a little chemistry between quarterback and receiver. Most

2267
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:22,960
Speaker 5: receivers fit in most systems. It only becomes an issue

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01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:25,720
Speaker 5: when they become an issue. You know, We've seen this

2269
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:29,200
Speaker 5: so many times, Stefan Diggs in two places now Minnesota,

2270
01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:33,600
Speaker 5: then the Buffalo Bills. We're seeing it with AJ Brown.

2271
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:36,640
Speaker 5: We've seen it multiple times in the past. The DIVA

2272
01:54:36,680 --> 01:54:40,640
Speaker 5: wide receiver is a trope we often talk about because

2273
01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:43,800
Speaker 5: it's a real thing, and AJ Brown has become a

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01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:46,240
Speaker 5: DIVA wide receiver. So it's the only reason why they

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01:54:46,240 --> 01:54:50,360
Speaker 5: were considering trading to a conference rival in the least bit.

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01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:54,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know what the Eagles were trying to

2277
01:54:54,760 --> 01:54:58,080
Speaker 6: get out of it right less need fdemps like he

2278
01:54:58,600 --> 01:55:00,560
Speaker 6: just doesn't really care about the pick. I don't know

2279
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:02,840
Speaker 6: what how many draft picks of the Rams up left

2280
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:07,160
Speaker 6: after the McDuffie trade. I think AJ Brown is meant

2281
01:55:07,160 --> 01:55:10,200
Speaker 6: for Philly. I think he actually fits the personality of

2282
01:55:10,280 --> 01:55:12,680
Speaker 6: Nick Sirianni very well. I actually think if there's a

2283
01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:14,400
Speaker 6: guy who has as much right you want to match

2284
01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:16,920
Speaker 6: fire for fire, Brian, I think Sirianni's actually a guy

2285
01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:19,360
Speaker 6: who can kind of rein in Brown a little bit,

2286
01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 6: and it just it feels like he's kind of meant

2287
01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:22,880
Speaker 6: for Philly for a while.

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Speaker 3: I get it, right, listen, I get both of your

2289
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:28,920
Speaker 3: points where Rich is like, hey man, he's difficult. He's

2290
01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:31,560
Speaker 3: a diva, there's no doubt about it, and he's a

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01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:33,640
Speaker 3: pain in the butt sometimes. So I can understand how

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01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 3: Philly's shopping him. But if you do trade him, then

2293
01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:39,920
Speaker 3: it's like, oh gosh, we don't have this stud of

2294
01:55:39,960 --> 01:55:42,200
Speaker 3: a wide receiver on the field anymore. Now of a sudden,

2295
01:55:42,280 --> 01:55:45,920
Speaker 3: Davonte Smith is our one a guy and this changes

2296
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:49,839
Speaker 3: our offense completely. So it's a tough scenario for the Eagles.

2297
01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:51,720
Speaker 3: In AJ Brown, there's no doubt about that. All right,

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Speaker 3: We've got Rich Orenberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith

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Speaker 2: Rich going three to oh.

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Speaker 3: Last week's on fire right now, took the Irish two weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jared, we start with you though. Were you taking

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Speaker 2: us today?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? That was I'll be honest, Rich, you might we

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Speaker 6: have to force you to give out dugs. You know,

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Speaker 6: called the slick rick dog of the week. There So

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Speaker 6: this Darius A. Cuff prop is there me right in

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Speaker 6: the face. In the last hour, we gave it out

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Speaker 6: and prop it up twenty three and a half. It's

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Speaker 6: up to twenty four and a half now I still

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Speaker 6: like it. He had twenty six on just one May three,

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Speaker 6: the last time Arkansas played Whole Miss way back in January.

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Speaker 6: And the Rebels now playing their fourth game in four nights.

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Speaker 6: Arkansas plays fast. I think a Cuff will shoot better

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Speaker 6: from three in this game, and I think he'll get

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Speaker 6: to the twenty five point plateau. So over twenty four

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Speaker 6: and a half points for Darius A. Cuff Junior, I'll

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Speaker 6: take UCLA plus seven and a half against Purdue. I

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Speaker 6: know they are without Tyler Bildeo. He only played ten

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Speaker 6: minutes yesterday, and I thought UCLA's Biggs did a good

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Speaker 6: job filling the void beating Michigan State outright. And I

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Speaker 6: do think Michigan or excuse me, Michigan State a very

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Speaker 6: good team. Perdue also a very good team, but Matt

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Speaker 6: Painter not good as a favorite two and fifteen against

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Speaker 6: the spread as a favorite in the Big Den Tournament.

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Speaker 6: I think Ucla above the key number of seven nice

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Speaker 6: and snut today against Purdue, and I change my mind.

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Speaker 6: I said this wasn't a great betting game because of

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Speaker 6: the volatility with Wisconsin and the three point shooting. But

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Speaker 6: I think Michigan's biggs handled this Badger's team today and

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Speaker 6: I don't think Wisconsin, after playing overtime yesterday against Illinois,

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Speaker 6: will have the leg So I will take Michigan minus

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Speaker 6: twelve and a half against the Badgers.

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Speaker 4: All right, we got a similarity there.

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Speaker 5: Let's go to the Big Ten with Michigan over Wisconsin.

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Speaker 4: I'll give the twelve and a half points there too.

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Speaker 5: I think Michigan dominates just size advantage. They hold teams

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Speaker 5: to sixty nine points a game. I like Michigan.

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Speaker 4: Let's go to the SEC Florida. Their edge is physicality.

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01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:43,560
Speaker 5: They average ten more rebounds per game than Vanderbilt. Possession advantage, Florida.

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Speaker 5: Give me Florida minus eight and a half and then

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Speaker 5: back to the Big Ten we go Perdue.

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Speaker 4: Their advantage is experienced but also rebounding.

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Speaker 5: They average over ten offensive boards, again creating second chances.

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Speaker 5: Ucla is really predicated on ball movement. I think that

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Speaker 5: it's going to be a struggle for them against a

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Speaker 5: stingy Purdue defense.

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Speaker 4: I'll take Perdue minus seven and a half.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let me start it off with Trey Kaufman. When

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Speaker 3: I'm doubling down, I really like over eight and a

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Speaker 3: half rebounds today against Ucla. They had a big go down,

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Speaker 3: so I like Kaufman red to be crashing the glass.

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Speaker 3: Give me an over here in a game, give me

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Speaker 3: Houston Arizona over one thirty eight and a half. The

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Speaker 3: reasoning is, I just think when you're playing each day,

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Speaker 3: it's hard to bring it defensively game in and game out.

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Speaker 3: So I think just that little bit of you know,

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Speaker 3: tired legs, it's gonna be hard to defend well all

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Speaker 3: forty minutes. And you look at how Arizona ended the

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Speaker 3: game last night against Iowa State, just on fire, hitting

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Speaker 3: shot after shot. I just think it ticks over one

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Speaker 3: thirty eight and a half. And then for my final act,

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Speaker 3: I would like to go with a team total. Gimme

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Speaker 3: Vanderbilt under seventy six and a half against that Florida machine.

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Speaker 3: I just think they're up against it against Florida today,

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Speaker 3: so I will take the under seventy six and a

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Speaker 3: half four Vanderbilt right there. It should be a fun day,

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Speaker 3: very excited for it. Enjoy all the hoops and have

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Speaker 3: a good one.

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Speaker 2: We'll see it