1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: with our radio. Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: Ben is still out he's in Israel with Jess. Can't 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: wait to hear all about that trip when he comes 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: back next week. But for now, we have the first 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: episode um post Bachelor. I mean, this is gonna be 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: like the first episode in a very long time that 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: we have like nothing really um Bachelor break and we don't. 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: We're not breaking down the Bachelor at all, which is 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: wild because you had so many seasons back to back. 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: But that means we make away for this awesome season 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: of Almost Famous where we get to talk um to 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: alum and get to know them better. So today we 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: have DeAndre can you of Bachelor in Paradise on the podcast. Hey, d'andra, 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: thanks so much for being here. I thank you for 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: having me. I'm super excited. So tell us what you've 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: been up to since Um you left the beaches of Paradise. 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: You home a own for a long time down there 19 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: for being someone who like no offense, didn't have like 20 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: a serious relationship, you know, but every week there was 21 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: like something enough to get you by. Absolutely. I think 22 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: that I I had an interesting time of paradise, and 23 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm super thankful for my time of paradise because it 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: made me realize that not everyone's going to be for 25 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: you and to like give people a genuine try and 26 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: a chance. Um. But since Paradise, I've been testing out 27 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: dating and you know, trying to focus on what I 28 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: really want in life and what I look for in 29 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: men and like how to avoid men that you know, 30 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: show red flags at the first signs. Um. But yes, 31 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: since Paradise, I've been dating, I've been working, traveling. I'm 32 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: actually in l A right now and on Dallas face 33 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: so this is different for me. But yeah, I've been 34 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: just trying to enjoy life. So if you return to 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: a quote regular job, yes, so I am still working 36 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: full time in pharmaceutical sales, but I also do content 37 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: creation and that's honestly kind of where I'm more so 38 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: wanting to lean in the future. But yeah, what is 39 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: it that you want to concentrate on content creation? Content creation? 40 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: I thought I thought that you just hear up with 41 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: like a drug name, Like in my head it was 42 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: like content creation and I'm like, oh my god, what 43 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: kind of drug is that? Anyway? Okay, how has dating 44 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: been in um Texas? Do you think that Texas is 45 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: any different than any other part of the country. Are 46 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: you do an online app dating? I don't know. I 47 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: don't know how I feel about Texas. So I'm in 48 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: Dallas and I feel like it's a very small pool. 49 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: Like I feel like the dating pool is very small. 50 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: Everyone knows everyone, so that's been super weird. No, I 51 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: haven't gotten on any dating apps. I think that I'm 52 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: judging myself if I get on a dating app. And 53 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: I don't know IF's because I've been on a dating show, 54 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: but I'm like, I feel like doing a dating app 55 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: but just be too much. I don't know. I don't know. 56 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: You're like, okay, so you're like borderline gen x jen 57 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: Y and you're maybe maybe the only person I've ever 58 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: met who has not tried dating app by this age. 59 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: Really yeah, I think I'm old fashioned when it comes 60 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: to dating. I want someone to approach me in person, 61 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: like I mean, we can do a d M as 62 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: long as it's followed up by a date. But I 63 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: think that I'm so weird about meeting people online and 64 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: like starting conversations with people that you have no intention 65 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: to write off that that was the worst. I had 66 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: no idea how to start those conversations or to continue them. Really, 67 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm not I like texting for you know, the convenience sake, 68 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: but just texting for the sake of conversation. I don't 69 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: really get it. What's the point. I'm like, we'll call me, 70 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: let's meet in person, let's set up something, and like 71 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: everything is like, let's meet in person. About the meeting 72 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: in person? I don't. I don't even like phone calls. 73 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: I need FaceTime, okay, I need to see somebody's face 74 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: and like really bind their energy exactly. I don't know. 75 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: I think personally dating apps aren't for me, but I'm 76 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: not going to say, like in the future I won't 77 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: do it. But I think that I'm like an in 78 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: person person, and I think that the person I'm gonna 79 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: end up with is just bold enough to come up 80 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: to me and it's like, hey, I want to take 81 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: you on a date, or like you're cute. You know, 82 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: you think the kind of person that you need to 83 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: end up with has to have a personality trait to 84 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: do it in real life. I like that that says 85 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: a lot. Yes, are you are one of ten siblings? 86 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: How is life. Like, honestly, I love it. I'm so 87 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: used to it. At this point, I feel like you 88 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: have natural born friends versus like people who are like 89 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: one or two siblings. Like I just have so many 90 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: friends and it's weird, like they're my siblings, but they're 91 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: also like my best friends. Yeah, there's one for everything. 92 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: And at one point, like we're all living under the 93 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: same roof, like we do kind of still to this day, 94 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: and it's so nice because you're never alone. Ever. What's 95 00:04:52,839 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: the age range um from like seven two? I think out, Yeah, 96 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: it's like a very wide range. But we're also mixed family, 97 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: so it's not just like one mom. Okay, ok, it's 98 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: not my mom popping out all these kids. That's my 99 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: next question, is your mom did this just boom boom 100 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: boom boom. No, definitely not. But my mom had five kids, 101 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: so I still feel like that's a lot. You have 102 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: one kid right now, had five. I don't understand. I 103 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: don't even understand two at this point, like I wanted to, 104 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: but I just don't understand how you're supposed to live 105 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: with two. My my my husband's cousin. I had lunch 106 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: here yesterday and she has to like they're like four 107 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: and I guess they're like five and three, And I'm like, 108 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: I am so confused. How you get out of the 109 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: house with all the bags, with all the kids car seats. 110 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: It's just crazy. I'll learn one day, I'll figure it out. Yeah, 111 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: they say your second child is easier, because I feel 112 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: like the second child, you're gonna have the cheetos and 113 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: like the you're just gonna throw them at the kid. 114 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: You're gonna have one diaper in your pocket. Like that's 115 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: what everyone says. The second child is like person now 116 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: when you're like preparing the bags exactly. That's so funny. Okay, 117 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: besides the guy coming up to you and being bold 118 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: enough to say hey to you in your life, what 119 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: are some other qualities that you look for in a man. 120 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: I think that the first one's emotional maturity. I feel 121 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: like men like pretend and put on a front. I 122 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: was actually thinking about this today, like there's a lot 123 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 1: of men out here here are like, oh, I'm ready 124 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: for relationships, I'm grown, I'm this, I'm that, and then 125 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: when it comes down to it, they actually aren't, like 126 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: their actions are still of a child. So I think 127 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: emotional maturity, being able to communicate honestly is like very 128 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: attractive to me. Being vulnerable, hard working, ambitious, funny, down 129 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: to earth I like, I think, I want to say, 130 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: like I like old fashioned men, Like I don't really 131 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: like the men that are like on TikTok and you know, 132 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: huge on social media because usually those people like feed 133 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: in some things that like the quickness of this world. 134 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: I just think I need some like old fashioned like 135 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: dates like opening doors, as simple as that is, Like 136 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: I feel like that doesn't happen regularly anymore. Is there 137 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: a guy from Bachelor, from the Bachelor franchise that you 138 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: feel like meets those qualifications if you were to do 139 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise again? I don't know. It's crazy because 140 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: I didn't really watch Michelle's season, like obviously, like we 141 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: saw Nate like a Nate was one of the guys 142 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: that everyone talked about and like Joe, probably because they 143 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: made it further. But there's no one right now that 144 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, Like I have my eye on them necessarily. 145 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure some of them have equalities, but I can't 146 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: like pinpoint one. I always say I wish Tyler Cameron 147 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: would come back to the franchise because I feel like 148 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: I would just love him, but he's far gone. It's 149 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: too bad. He really would have been a great Bachelor 150 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: when we did well. Recently, when I was on my 151 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: like one week maternity leave, Ben didn't interview with him, 152 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: and I listened to that podcast and I was like, 153 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: this guy's really got it, and it seems like it 154 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: seems like what he's gone through over the past couple 155 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: of years, some guys will get jaded by it, you know, 156 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: they get conceded and their ego get too big. I 157 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: actually feel like maybe the opposite has happened to him. 158 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: He's it's been it's been good for him in a 159 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: growing process from what I can tell by this interview, 160 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: And I was just like, this is the Bachelor that 161 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: we need. I feel like he comes off so humble 162 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: and like down to earth and cool and like, I 163 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: don't know, I've seen the Bachelor franchise like changed people. 164 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: Just like how you're saying, like, well, you think that 165 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: all the exposure and this and that would have him jaded, 166 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: But I think that he comes off very like humble, 167 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: down to earth, cool, swaggy. Yeah, yeah, he's got the 168 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: swag of the confidence, that's for sure, in addition to 169 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: being seeming humble. And I really, um, I don't know, 170 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: that's too bad. We got to convince him somewhere or 171 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: another to do it, because I do feel like he's 172 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: like an old fashioned romantic where like you watched him, 173 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: especially in Hannah season, and people were like, oh, baby babies, noises, 174 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: and people were like, oh, this guy is just like 175 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: knows exactly what move to make. I really think that 176 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: maybe he just is truly like that and he's just 177 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: one of the rare gym's exactly. Maybe he's just like that, 178 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: Like I like genuine people who come off genuinely it's 179 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: so easy and naturals. Now, did you watch Clayton season 180 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: at all? So? I watched a couple of episodes here 181 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: and there, so I generally know, and I was after 182 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: the final rose like I was at the actual finale. Yes, 183 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: I'm so glad. I went, um, yeah, so I did. 184 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: I am a little bit toomed into what happened. What 185 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: are your thoughts? I think? So after being there and 186 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: watching the finale, I think that I was probably the 187 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: only person the crowd that was actually happy that he 188 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: found someone and that ended up with Susie. Yeah, I know, 189 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: I had a sense of happiness too, and I was 190 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: a little bit confused by it, but but in general, like, yes, 191 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: my gut instinct was okay, good, I'm glad something good 192 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: happened for the two of them. And that's something good 193 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: happened after watching all of this train wreck. Absolutely, that's 194 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I feel like people were angered, like, 195 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: well what about you know, Rachel and Gabby. And I'm like, well, 196 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: now they're the bachelorettes. Now they get their chance to 197 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: redeem themselves. I feel like that's even Stepien. We're square. 198 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: So Susie gets to be happy and they get to 199 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: be happy in their own way as well. Yes, okay, 200 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: well what do you think about there being two bachelorettes? 201 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: How do you how do you feel like this is 202 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: going to work out? Uh, Mike Flice, I think there's 203 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: a headline. I think one of our headlines today. Oh 204 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: yes it is, So we'll just do this headline right now. 205 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: Mike fly says the Bachelorette won't pit Rachel and Gabby 206 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: against each other. I'll read the deadline article real quick. 207 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: The Bachelorette will be making history this summer when it 208 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: features not one but two women on Rose duty, but 209 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: executive producer Mike Flies seems to be downplaying any possibility 210 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: of a pending cat fight between the single ladies. Plays 211 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: responded to a fan on Twitter who wondered whether Rachel 212 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: and Gabby would be competing against each other in their 213 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: quest for love. The tweets said this, I love Gabby 214 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: and Rachel, but there's no way this doesn't pit these 215 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: two against one another, and and then continue to say 216 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: every guy is going to be asked the same question, 217 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: who do you like more? Who do you love more? 218 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: Who do you like more? Not? And then Fly said 219 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: this not true. You'll see uh huh, Okay, I don't know. 220 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: So given that information, and we all know that Flies 221 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: tweet some things that aren't accurate all the time, or 222 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: they're highly opinionated whatnot. But given that, given that sound bites, basically, 223 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: what do you think is going to be the method 224 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: that they use with the two of them? And this 225 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: is something that I've been thinking on because I'm like, 226 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: how is it possible that you're going to have two women? 227 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: Are they going to have separate dating pools? Like? Are 228 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: they going to be bringing in guys? Mid season, you know, 229 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: kind of like a Tassia and Clear switch up. How 230 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: they brought more guys when it switched over to Tassia. Okay, 231 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: are they going to be doing that, like continuously switching 232 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: in guys to kind of like brought in the dating 233 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: pool for them. I don't see how they potentially can't 234 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: be putting against one another because they're making the same guys. 235 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: Imagine we both like the same person all of a sudden, Like, 236 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: I don't know how they're going to separate that. You 237 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: can't you can't influence love in that sense. You can't 238 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: influence who they like in that sense. I guess if 239 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: I were to brainstorm here, maybe the first couple of weeks, 240 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: the guys date them both, and then at a certain 241 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: point they have to break off into groups. And then 242 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: you're like, okay, you you're just exclusively dating her, and 243 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: you're just exclusively dating her, But then how awkward would 244 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: it be? And very reminiscent of Caitlin and and britt 245 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: if like one girl had a pool of men way 246 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: bigger than the other, that would be awkward, That's what 247 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Or I wonder if they kept the guys 248 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: coming in like, who do you who would you like 249 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: naturally feel yourself going more towards and then they just 250 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 1: naturally have the same amount of guys, Like they just 251 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: make sure that they pick an even amount of guys 252 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: who would feel like they would naturally go in, and 253 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: then when they go in, then decide. I feel like 254 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: it's already gonna be split fifty fifty. I don't know. 255 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: I don't know how they're going to do it, but 256 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: I'm definitely excited to see. This will probably one of 257 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: the ones that I'll definitely watch so I can understand 258 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: how they're gonna make sure that there's enough guys for 259 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: both of the women. Yeah, my sister keeps saying that 260 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: she thinks this is gonna be like the rejuvenation of 261 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: the Bachelor franchise if they needed, because so many people 262 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: are going to be curious as to how they navigate it, 263 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: and I think she might be right. Absolutely I agree 264 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: with that. All Right, Well, I'm getting all confused now 265 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: because we had a Bachelorette season in the fall, so 266 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm expecting to go into paradise now, but we're not 267 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: going into paradise where you're going into another bachelorette's season, 268 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: But one Bachelor in Paradise does come around. What advice 269 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: would you give people going on to that season? I 270 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: would say keep an open mind. That's like the best 271 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: thing that you can do going into Are you talking 272 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: about for Paradise, right? Yeah, So for Paradise, keep an 273 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: open mind because you'll be very surprised. I think that 274 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: the biggest thing in Paradise is dating people that you 275 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't naturally feel yourself drawn to, like giving people a chance. 276 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: That's the whole point of Paradise, is putting yourself in 277 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: an environment where you're not going to go for the 278 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: person that you normally would instinctively go for. I think 279 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: that's the beauty of it. Be really open to those relationships, 280 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: because sometimes there's a relationships that work, like truly work. 281 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: Who did you do that with? Um? So I found 282 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: myself just going out like obviously I was getting to 283 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: know Carl and you know, I was getting to know Chasing, 284 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: And I don't think that in real life necessarily those 285 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: are going to be the first people that I would 286 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: have been drawn to. Like if you've had a room 287 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: with people and I got to know them and it 288 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: was great getting to know them and Unfortunately it didn't 289 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: work out, but I love the experience because it still 290 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: taught me, you know, keep an open heart, give people 291 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: a chance, because you just never know. It might just 292 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: be the one. Like look at Thomas and Becca. Who 293 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: would have thought? Who would have thought? Who have thought? 294 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: Who would have thought? That's all I could say about that. 295 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: That's great, that's that's crazy, But I love it. I 296 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: love them together and talk about happiness. You know, exactly 297 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: who did you tell producers that you wanted to see there? 298 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: What's actually hilarious is I think that Brendan was one 299 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: of the people I wanted to see there, and I 300 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: told them repeatedly. I was like, well, brend did Brendan? 301 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: And I didn't know anything about the man. I just 302 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: saw like his patron. I was like, oh my gosh, 303 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: she's so cute. Other than that, I was pretty much open. 304 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I think, I said Tyler Cameron. 305 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: That was like a really just a shot in the dark. Um, yeah, 306 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: I think those are the two people. And then other 307 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: than that, I was like, I just want to I'm open, 308 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: like I don't really necessarily have to see anyone, So yeah, 309 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: those are the two people, and it's just funny everything 310 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: played out with that that little situation. Yeah, well they're together. 311 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: They're together now, aren't they? Right? So together? Do you 312 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: keep in touch with either of them? Or was it 313 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: really truly that bad of blood? No? I mean I 314 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: never knew Piper ever personally in real life, and Brendan 315 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: I talked to you like on the first day and 316 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: after that. No, So no, I don't happy for them, 317 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: Like if they're happy and then good, I'm glad it 318 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: actually worked out long term for them like that again, 319 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: kind of like a Susie and Clayton situation, like you 320 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: want to see people and that together their you're gonna 321 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: be together. What about Marissa and Riley? What happened there? 322 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: Do you know anything? I mean, as her best friend, 323 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: Like I was gonna say, like like I don't pretend 324 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: like you don't like really know anything, because like you 325 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: may don't want to share, but I'm sure you know 326 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: the whole damn story, right, that's her best friend. I mean, 327 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: I definitely saw the relationship, but I just don't think 328 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: she hasn't really talked about it, so I wouldn't want 329 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: to like discuss she wasn't talking about it publicly. Yeah, exactly. Okay, alrighty, 330 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: then well after this, we're going to go into a 331 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: Bachelor headlines get some of d'andrew's thoughts. But first we've 332 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: gotta take a break Bachelor headline time. This one just 333 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: came out like an hour ago. Michelle Young to host 334 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: Bachelor Happy Hour podcast. Michelle is taking this seat at 335 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: the podcasting table. According to The Hollywood Reporter, she will 336 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: be co hosting this with Becca Koufrin. She says she's 337 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: excited to share her perspective on the franchise and to 338 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: keep it real for the passionate fans of Bachelor Nation. 339 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: She can't wait to kick it off with Becca next 340 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: week and they're going to dive into the twist and 341 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: turns of the upcoming seasons together. Her first official episode 342 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: of being the co host will be on March twenty two, 343 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: which is, uh, well tomorrow Tuesday. Do you think Michelle 344 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: is gonna do a good job at podcasting. I feel 345 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: like she is going to do an awesome job because 346 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: she doesn't really hold back on the opinions, but she 347 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: like has it. She gives him a very tactful manner. 348 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: You know it won't be too harsh. I agree with that. 349 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: I think that she's going to make a great host 350 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: for the Bachelor podcast. I think that she's really well spoken, 351 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: she has a person there, so I think it's gonna 352 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: be perfect. Becca so well spoken, one of those girls 353 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: from the franchise where I'm like, could I just be 354 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: as articulate and express what I mean as eloquently as 355 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: you do? Right, And I'm just here like blah blah blah, 356 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: like like, um, it's definitely relatable. But I think I 357 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: have a really great dialogue that is also really well spoken. 358 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: But Becca has so much personality too, and I love 359 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: it because I think that would be like a really 360 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: great pair. Definitely all right. Well. In Clayton's big press 361 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,239 Speaker 1: tour last week, he said he no longer believes that 362 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: he was in love with all three finalists. He says, 363 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: looking back at it all, in those moments, I believe 364 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: of did I really did believe I was in love 365 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: with them when I was there on the show? Um, 366 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: But as I've now taken time to reflect and look back, 367 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: I believe that I got to the point where I 368 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: was falling in love with everyone, but then I got 369 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: to the point where I was only in love with Susie. Now, 370 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: I only think you can be in love with one person, 371 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: but you can fall for many, but you can only 372 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: be in love with one. Uh. Then he continued to say, 373 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: and that's where I made a mistake. I was confused 374 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: on the show. I believed what I would believe, that 375 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: I was in love with multiple women. Since then I 376 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: realized I don't think I was. I think this was 377 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: an inevitable realization. Absolutely. I think that it was funny 378 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: because I think it was Gabby after the final rose 379 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: that asked Clayton shirt up, like what does love mean 380 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: to you with either Gabby or Rebecca or Rachel? Sorry? Um, 381 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:53,959 Speaker 1: that was like, like what is your definition of love? 382 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: What does love mean to you? Because love means something 383 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: to everybody differently. And he was like, well, I think 384 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: that him telling the women that he's falling in love 385 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: with him three women. I don't think it's possible to 386 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: be in actively in love with more than one person 387 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: at a time. But that's just my opinion. What do 388 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: you think about that? No? I I also don't I 389 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: don't think being in I don't think so. And I 390 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: don't even like the expression falling love versus being in love, 391 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: which I've said so many times in this podcast, is 392 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 1: such a bachelor ism, Like you would never distinguish between 393 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: the two in real life. I feel like in real 394 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: life you do. You have like two separate days in 395 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: which you're like, hey, guess what girl I'm dating, I'm 396 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: falling in love with you, and then like a month later, 397 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: you don't say I am in love with you, right? 398 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: Don't you just say like I love you? Right? I 399 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: think that you can have love for a person be 400 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: like this person is amazing, They're great, which is probably 401 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: how he felt about Gabby and Rachel, like I think 402 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: these people are amazing, like I could potentially love you. 403 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: But he was falling in love with Susie, like on 404 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: a deeper level totally. So I think that he confused 405 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: that feeling and I'm sure it was like pressure for 406 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: him to communicate how he felt and he probably didn't 407 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: know how to articulate at that time without disappointing them. 408 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: But you can't tell You can't tell a woman that 409 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: you're falling in love with her and not expect her 410 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: to be like, oh my gosh, I'm the one. Yeah. 411 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: Well he learned, and that's like the whole thing that 412 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: We're really happy for Clayton is that he learned a 413 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: lot of things through this season. Absolutely, he's never gonna 414 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: forget it. Another Clayton headline which makes me all cringe, 415 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: very awkward. Um So, do you remember I don't know 416 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 1: if you watched this episode, but a couple of weeks ago, 417 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: Susie and him are doing something on a day and 418 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: she said something along the lines of, we're going to 419 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: find out if Clayton likes to be choked. Do you 420 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 1: remember this? Um So, I didn't personally watch that episode, 421 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: but I've heard about it. Okay, Well, they're kind of 422 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: playing on this. There's a picture that has gone viral 423 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: now of Clayton in bed with presumably Susie's hand around 424 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: his neck, and as everybody is like losing their their 425 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: marbles over the photo online, Clayton responds in like up 426 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: and down letters like have lower case, have upper case, 427 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: as if like he's supposed to be like, oh my god, 428 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: it says we literally know nothing about this guy dot 429 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: dot dot. Well, now you do? I think that he 430 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: played that really well? Okay? He like us to like 431 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: make a situation that could potentially be like cringe e. 432 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: The response totally putting the picture out there. I don't know. 433 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I saw the picture and I thought 434 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: it was like a leak, like another woman, like someone 435 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: posted a picture and I didn't realize like it's Susie. 436 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: Like wait, So I'm not sure if I would have that. 437 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the picture now, so that's why I'm 438 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: like looking down. But I see that. I I cringe 439 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: an see the humor. At the same time, I've done 440 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: so many things publicly that are so cringe. I can't 441 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: even speak on behalf of this. This is no cringe 442 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: compared to what I've done, So have fun, guys. Uh. 443 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: Colton Underwood on advice he'd give Bachelor Clayton Eckert, he says, 444 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: just make sure you have a good therapist. My initial 445 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: piece of advice, he says, would be to have a 446 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: good therapist talk invent to them because unfortunately, in the 447 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: position of being a lead on ABC show, especially like 448 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: The Bachelor, you can't trust a whole lot of people. 449 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: He says, I really hope that Clayton has a good 450 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: support system buy him, especially after the show. Hope he's 451 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: doing well. I hope all the girls from a season 452 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: are in a good place because the show can be 453 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: really a really tough place or some people. I mean, 454 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: I'd say I think that's probably pretty good advice, absolutely, 455 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: especially after a season. I'm again, I'm just a reader, right, Like, 456 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: so many people have felt so angry towards Clayton and 457 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: like have like given him so much crap and almost 458 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: steel bad for the man. I'm like, well, yeah, it 459 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: sucks because he kind of put himself in a situation 460 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: where he treated certain women a certain way. This is 461 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: a response that people want to give him, but at 462 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: the end of the day, they have to realize, like 463 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: we are humans, Like you have to make mistakes. You 464 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: just happen to make ours on national television versus someone 465 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,719 Speaker 1: who does this in real life and no one ever 466 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: knows about it. I love reminding people of that. It's like, you, guys, please, 467 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: if you're on TV dating five plus women, what don't 468 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: tell me you wouldn't mess up a many times? Why 469 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: I can't even remember three people's names, so imagine having 470 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: to remember thirty people's names. Oh, oh my god, it's 471 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: so embarrassing. I still forget some of my of Jared's 472 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: cousins names, Like I'll be at a family union. I'll 473 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: be like Jared, what's that cousin's name again? I know 474 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: I've met them five times already, but I don't remember. 475 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: I'd be the worst bachelor at this headline is so interesting. 476 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: Jason tart I quit his job after Caitlin Bristo talked 477 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: about their sex life. Okay, this is juicy stuff, he says. 478 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: On a podcast, Caitlin talked about their first hook up, 479 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: which in which they were fully clothed. He goes, Caitlin 480 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: made a funny confession on one of our podcasts about 481 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: the first time we hooked up in which we were 482 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: fully It was a fully closed, intimate moment. He's told 483 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: page six this. So he said that that reveal put 484 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: him in the position where he had to restart his 485 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: entire career outside the bank, or he had to restart 486 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: his brand within the bank. This is what his boss 487 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: said to him. No more social media, no more podcast, 488 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: and no more side hustling. Nothing. And so as a 489 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: result of that, like ultimatum um, he decided to quit 490 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: his job. I mean, yeah, if I were in Jason's 491 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: case situation, if I was in Jason's position there, I 492 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: would also quit my job because I mean being a 493 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: Bachelor's star, and I mean like he was with when 494 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: once he was with Caitlin, especially like he had so 495 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: many opportunities at his fingertips. Of course he's not with 496 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: Caitlin because of that, but just like you know, it 497 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: upped his star and his um what is it like 498 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: his cloud, right, so he was probably getting more money 499 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: offered from all these outside sources, and he was even 500 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: getting at his job. I mean, I'm just assuming here. 501 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: I just think it's crazy though, because like being in 502 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: a corporate position, whenever you're on the Bachelor, like related 503 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: to any reality television show, I feel like there comes 504 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: a time where it's like you have to choose between 505 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, being a part of the show, being a 506 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: part of the people of the showing on things, being 507 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: a real person, and your job. And like even I 508 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: still experience that being in the corporate world. Still, it's 509 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: like having like doing podcasts and like talking about personal things. 510 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: I'll like hear coworkers talking about them, like it's hard 511 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 1: to separate and at some certain point, like you have 512 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: to leave if they're giving you an ultimatum. I don't 513 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: think it's fair to be like, hey, be a person 514 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: or pick the bank and told him so, I don't 515 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: think that's fair, but hey, it wasn't for him, then 516 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: yeah it's not. It's not necessarily fair. I guess I 517 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: understand where the boss was coming from. I think it 518 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: seems harsh the way that he put it. It's kind 519 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: of like, I mean, you might know with Riley, right, 520 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: if he's a lawyer, and sometimes if like you see 521 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: your lawyer's personal life play out on TV, you see 522 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: your lawyer sucking whip cream off of his girlfriend's toes, 523 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: it is hard to take him seriously in the courtroom, 524 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: I would say, or some people that take him seriously. 525 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: This is so interesting though, because it's like the same 526 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: people who work at a bank or like working corporate 527 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: offices once that five o'clock hits and they go home, 528 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: are completely different people. And like, yeah, it's not on 529 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: national television, but it's like it's the same people you 530 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: might see in the clubs are the same people that 531 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: might have these alternate because we're all human that it's 532 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: so true. It's like, Okay, are you not allowed to 533 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: go to a bar? Right? Are you not allowed to 534 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: make out with somebody in a bar and be seen 535 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: it doesn't make any It makes sense to me, but 536 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't because at the same time, when it comes 537 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: time to be professional, as long as you can be 538 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: professional do your job, as long as it's not so 539 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: crazy like you're doing illegal things and like harmful things, 540 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: it just doesn't really make sense that you have to 541 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: like completely shield the rest of your life. And I 542 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: enjoy life to be professional. Stone Like, look at Kelly 543 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: flant again. I love thee I would trust her to 544 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: be my lawyer, and I see exactly and I see 545 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: her live her life as a normal person, obviously on 546 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: social media, and I would still trust her because when 547 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: it comes time to do her job, she's going to 548 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: do her job and she's going to do it really well. 549 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: That is the best example ever. Thank you DeAndre. That 550 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: was That's amazing. I would love Kelly fan In to 551 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: be my lawyer. She's a boadass. Yes, alright. Next headline 552 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: is not really headlining, but if their information, um, it's 553 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: like a fun tidbits. So this is everything you need 554 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: to know about New Bachelor at Gabby and everything you 555 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: need to know about Rachel. It's not everything we need 556 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: to know, but that's the headline from people Okay. First off, 557 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: Gabby bullet point number one was an NFL cheerleader. She's 558 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: actually an Illinois native, but she considers Denver her home 559 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: after moving there when you know, moving there permanently after 560 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: graduating from the University of Colorado Colorado Springs. She's professionally 561 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: cheered for the broncos Um. Gabby works as a nurse. 562 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: She's an ic you nurse, and she's a history making 563 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: when they said because she was honored for her work 564 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: as a regis their nurse during the COVID nineteen pandemic 565 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: and became the first woman to receive the Pop Warner 566 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: Humanitarian Award in I don't know about that award, but 567 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: it sounds like she's also a badass. Right, Let's say 568 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: this is an interesting tidbit and now and now that 569 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: I read this headline last night, I was like, wait 570 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: a second, is this Gabby did he? This is going 571 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: to rock Batchelor nations world if they're not already aware 572 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: of it. She dated dated quote quote Blake and Dean 573 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: Dean Ungler Black Horseman. But the thing is he didn't 574 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: really date Blake. She said that like she like she goes, 575 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: there were no there was no actual dates. There were 576 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: no drinks paid for, no dinner paid for. He's definitely 577 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: friends with the friends. We spent time together, but no 578 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: official dating, no exclusivity. However, on the other side of this, Dean, 579 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: she dated dated over ten years ago, was one of 580 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: her first loves. Said, it was so long ago. It's 581 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: a distant past from my experience on The Bachelor. But 582 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: now then I started thinking about it when Dean and 583 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: I would hang out all the time before we had 584 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: our respective significant others, and I feel like I remembered 585 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: him talking about a Gabby. Now. May be starting rumors now, 586 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: but I feel like this was like a girl that 587 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: he had mentioned from his past a lot. You know 588 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: what's craziest. I feel like Chris Jenner works hard, but 589 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: the Bachelor franchise works harder. Seriously, We're up there absolutely 590 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: because finding Gabby, who dated Dean, I know, over ten 591 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: years ago, and then honestly, that's it's it's crazy. But 592 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: it's like with the whole you know Blake situation, it's like, well, 593 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: because you're everyone stated Blake, but just because you're seeing 594 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: with someone doesn't mean that you're dating. Right. Maybe they 595 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: went hung out, he didn't buy her drinks, It buy 596 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: her food. That's probably why they're not dating. Um, She's like, 597 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: that's I don't know. She's like, we had a moment 598 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: not at Stagecoach, but Coachella, and that's a whole other thing. 599 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: That was a joke. Okay, now everything you need to 600 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: know about Rachel Now, I want this tidbit to be 601 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: um clarified a little bit. Says she's a flight instructor 602 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: and a commercial pilot. But I thought that she was 603 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: in training. I thought that, like on her bio said 604 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: that she was in training. So we're gonna have to 605 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: find out about that. She's originally from Chicago, um, although 606 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: Florida is where she calls home now. Um, but she 607 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: still roots for like all the Chicago teams. Then, her 608 00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: all time favorite snack is a flaming hot cheetos. I 609 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: love super interesting fact that is also Dean's favorite food. 610 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: So I mean, look at Dean popping up so much 611 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: with all these ladies. Literally, Rachel is a huge Harry 612 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: Potter fan, and she was also a cheerleader, although she 613 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: didn't cheer professionally, she um cheered for Ohio University, where 614 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: she attended school. All right, last headline Bachelor's Susie Evans 615 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: shares how she deals with hateful social media comments. She says, 616 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: picture this. I get a notification that someone tagged me 617 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: in a hateful comment. I go to their page to 618 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: block and see follow back. Uh yeah, you don't get 619 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: to both following me and harass me, she says. I 620 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: think that that is so funny. What is with people? 621 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: That's always what it is? Like you're you're never getting 622 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: the hate comments from somebody who doesn't follow you. What's 623 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: crazy is I feel like it's almost like they just 624 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: want your attention. So like whenever someone sends a hate 625 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: message and this is like even happens to me previously, 626 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: once I respond, it's, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry, 627 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: Like I never meant it that way. Like it's almost 628 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: like a cry for attention, because who goes out of 629 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: their way to harass when they don't even know? Yeah 630 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: do you know me? You follow me? You don't even know? Right? 631 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: Fifty percent at the time, the person will either delete 632 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: the comment or they'll say something like that. Right, In 633 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: a sense, it doesn't make any sense. And we live 634 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 1: in a world where we're so desensitized by social media 635 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: that we forget that we're real people. If you would 636 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 1: never come up to me in a bar and say 637 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: that's my face, then don't comment it online at all. Yeah. 638 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: And it's always the people that it's like you go 639 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: to their profile and they see in the bio it's 640 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: like mama lover in a Bible verse literally lover her 641 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: mama and then a Bible verse and that's exactly it. 642 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, so, what's going on here? Like what Bible 643 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: are you reading with honey? I don't know. All right, Dandre, 644 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure having you here, so grateful that 645 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: we got to catch up with you, and we wish 646 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: you all the best in finding love on screen. Off right, 647 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys having me. Thank you. All right, 648 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: this is how we sign off. Ben would be mad 649 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: at me if I didn't sign off like this, even 650 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: though it's weird. Were there's just two of us and 651 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 1: it's not been on the other line. Okay, ready until 652 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: next time. I've been Ashley, I've been Deandra. Should we 653 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: stop this? Guys? Bye? I love it. Well, thanks, It's 654 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 1: very strange. Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous 655 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: podcast on I our radio or subscribe wherever you listen 656 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: to podcasts,