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Speaker 1: Hey, every well, welcome back to Thatcher Happy Hour. I'm

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Speaker 1: Joe and I'm Serena, and we are here today with

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Speaker 1: Sam Dan Joe. Welcome to the podcast as a couple

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Speaker 1: for the first time on this podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Thank you, Thank you. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Serena's kind of been jumping in taking taking over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my coffee kicked in before Joe's did coffee.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm just I think I'm just stupid. Sorry.

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Speaker 3: So, so, last time Sam, we had you on the

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Speaker 3: podcast was Paradise. Were yep, right before we were rooting

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Speaker 3: for you.

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Speaker 1: We were sad to see you go.

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Speaker 3: We were sad to see you go. We really were,

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Speaker 3: And I would say, you know, would love to see

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Speaker 3: you on next season, But I actually hope you're not

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Speaker 3: on next season because you're here with your girlfriend Ali Joe,

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Speaker 3: and we're so excited to chat with you. Guys both

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Speaker 3: kind of how this came to be, You guys were

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Speaker 3: ships passing in the night on Bauchler and Paradise. What

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Speaker 3: a miss?

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Speaker 2: What a miss?

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Speaker 1: Actually, because I really am not just saying this because

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Speaker 1: you two are both here, but it would you both

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Speaker 1: together getting together on Paradise would have been a great

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Speaker 1: addition to the season because you're both fun to watch.

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Speaker 2: Some would say that, some would say.

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Speaker 1: That, hey, listen, if they're talking, at least you're doing something.

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Speaker 1: So so it's reality TV, you know, don't get.

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Speaker 4: Us started on that experience.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's take it back. Before you know, we get

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Speaker 3: into The Bachelor in Paradise and all of this fun

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Speaker 3: relationship stuff. You guys had spoken a little before Paradise, right,

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Speaker 3: you both knew you were going to be there. Kind

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Speaker 3: of walk us through where your relationship was before you

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Speaker 3: went to Paradise and you know how you connected and

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Speaker 3: what was going on.

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Speaker 4: Take it away, baby, Well, we didn't definitely know we

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Speaker 4: were both going to be there. I was really hopeful,

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Speaker 4: like I had a feeling because I just had a

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Speaker 4: good feeling. But I had messaged him first, So ladies,

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Speaker 4: don't be ready to message somebody first. Because we knew

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Speaker 4: of a mutual person. I don't know, long story short,

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Speaker 4: somebody like compared me to him, and I just thought

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Speaker 4: that was like comical, And we just started talking and

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Speaker 4: Sam had given me like really really good advice just

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Speaker 4: moving forward. So it was just like a little bit

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Speaker 4: of chit chat. It wasn't anything crazy. And then yeah,

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Speaker 4: we would just kind of like swipe up on each

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Speaker 4: other's stories and that was really it. And then we

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Speaker 4: just kind of started talking about Paradise, asking if each

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Speaker 4: other were going. We both really didn't know, and that

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Speaker 4: was an honest answer, and yeah, that was it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So going into paradise, I think it's safe to

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Speaker 3: say you were both on each other's radar, like you

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Speaker 3: never know until you get there.

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Speaker 1: But well, I mean, I don't know if I mean

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Speaker 1: that's I don't know if that's safe to say. Were

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Speaker 1: you Well, they were, I mean, but it wasn't. It wasn't.

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Speaker 1: It was more friendly from what I'm Okay, Yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: Tell us, were you like, maybe there's something that romantically

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Speaker 3: or were you friend zoned?

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Speaker 2: No, I think there was, there was definitely something there romantically.

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Speaker 5: I think it's it's kind of easy to figure out

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Speaker 5: in the way that two people communicate. You can figure

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Speaker 5: out if somebody's trying to be friends or if they

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Speaker 5: want something more than that. I think for us, we

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Speaker 5: were trying not to spoil what could possibly be. You know,

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Speaker 5: we're still communicating through a phone and through social media

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Speaker 2: Other and whatnot.

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Speaker 5: So my experience on the Bachelorette was completely different than

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Speaker 5: what hers was on the Bachelor. So whenever she got

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Speaker 5: compared to me, I was figuring things out week by

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Speaker 5: Thank gosh, it didn't happen with her, But for me,

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Speaker 5: whenever I went out to Paradise, she was the only

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Speaker 5: But ultimately she was She was really the only person

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Speaker 3: Least Okay, so you get down there, Ali Joe isn't there.

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Speaker 3: We see you kind of start talking with Jazz, walk

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was extremely disheartened that that Ali Joe was there.

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Speaker 5: I think I was the last person that came down

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Speaker 5: for episode one, so everybody was already there on the

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Speaker 2: Know, what's going on here? Like I really did.

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Speaker 5: I put all my eggs into one basket and it

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Speaker 5: wasn't there. So I had to completely diminish what I

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Speaker 5: the way that it all went. So I went in

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Speaker 5: there just with kind of just an open mind and

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Speaker 2: Me maybe was going to be different than what other

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Speaker 5: Was just super warm. She also, i know, caught a

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Speaker 5: was like, hey, you know, don't don't sweat any of

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Speaker 5: understand this process a little bit. So you know, they're

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Speaker 5: looking at you as Sam. They want to get to

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Speaker 5: know you for, you know, what you claim to be,

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Speaker 5: not what they, you know, the America think you are.

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Speaker 2: So she was somebody that really just I think took some.

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Speaker 2: The timing from me getting to the beach to making.

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Speaker 5: I got to talk to three people and that was it. Ultimately,

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Speaker 1: That was just nice. I would say for our listeners,

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Speaker 1: whoever ends up getting cast at Bachelor in Paradise, if

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Speaker 1: you're listening to this podcast, that is important. You should

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Speaker 1: go into Paradise and whoever you expect to see there,

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Speaker 1: tell yourself that they're not going to be there, and

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Speaker 1: if they are, they are it's a pleasant surprise. But

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Speaker 1: I think that happens so much on this show, where

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Speaker 1: it's going to go. Me and this person like hit

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Speaker 1: it off on DMS, But I really I think we're

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Speaker 5: And then it's a matter man, it's a matter of

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Speaker 5: like human nature is to try and figure things out.

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Speaker 5: You want to put yourself on a path of success,

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Speaker 5: and the problem is that you can never figure out

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Speaker 5: what the Bachelor production is going to do because they

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Speaker 5: So you think that you're on the right path and

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Speaker 3: After that, Yeah, it's this constant fight for trying to

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Speaker 3: like control your experience and your journey while simultaneously having

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Speaker 3: no control at all. Exactly, So, Ali Joe has jumped

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Speaker 3: to you. Obviously Sam didn't work out with Jess. You

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Speaker 3: get sent home, Ali Joe. You hit the beach, You

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Speaker 3: have a sick entrance on that jet ski. You look great.

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Speaker 3: Are you looking for Sam? When you hit the beach.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So just like to rewind a little bit my

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Speaker 4: experience on The Bachelor, Just like mentally, I have like

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Speaker 4: just like not the best for me. So preparing for

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Speaker 4: a Bachelor and powered ice, I went in with it

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Speaker 4: you like, you know, you give up a lot of

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Speaker 4: stuff to prepare for this show, Like I almost lost

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Speaker 4: I would have loved to have met him, but you know,

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Speaker 1: To you have to be when you go on these shows,

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Speaker 4: What I want absolutely, and like that's I feel like

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Speaker 4: exactly what I did. But I just felt like I

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Speaker 4: I didn't get you know, the experience, Like, yes, do

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Speaker 4: I have Sam, absolutely, but besides him and like separating

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Speaker 4: But you know, the thirty six hours I was there

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Speaker 4: was cool. I did really good shrimp tacos.

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Speaker 3: I forgot you guys were having rose ceremonies like non

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Speaker 4: And also it rained every single day while we were well,

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Speaker 4: I was only there for like two days like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I heard it rained a lot.

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Speaker 3: Cost Rika was a gorgeous setting to film, but that rain.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to go a problem.

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Speaker 4: I'm never going back, Sam, you should go back though.

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Speaker 4: And Wall gave him a shot of whiskey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how long was that was? That? Like? A month.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, all right, here we go, here

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Speaker 1: Ellie Joe, were you when he flew to Florida? Were

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Speaker 4: Like I like didn't know, and like I don't.

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Speaker 1: Have you guys should I don't know how you guys

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Speaker 2: I'm blaming my dad.

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Speaker 4: This is such a unique experience too, because I don't

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Speaker 3: But truly, like I think if I was in your shoes,

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Speaker 1: Could you imagine that though? Could you imagine being Sam?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's gonna be so it's going bad.

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Speaker 4: I live in a place that people vacation, but my

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Speaker 1: Yes, totally, do you think do you think you guys,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 5: I think it was just something. It was such a

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Speaker 2: It's something that no matter you know, if you haven't.

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Speaker 5: Walked through the process of this show, then you will

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Speaker 5: and it's so difficult to see anything past that, Hey,

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Speaker 2: Whatever I saw is what I was going to get.

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Speaker 5: And I liked everything that I saw and continue to see.

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Speaker 3: So after that first meeting, I don't know how many

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Speaker 1: A date meeting sounds it was a weekend, Yeah, date?

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Speaker 2: Wait what meeting?

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Speaker 4: His first day ever, he ended up extending his flight

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Speaker 2: Out of here. Don't don't freaking nonchalant me saying that

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Speaker 5: Now, I've never I've never extended a flight, but we

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, when did that happen?

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Speaker 4: So I think once he saw me kind of like

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Speaker 1: And what's what is the how does this look moving forward?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: You're Ali, Joe, You're still in Florida. Sam, you're in Charleston,

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Speaker 2: South Carolina?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 1: There is there a plan yet?

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Speaker 4: We talked about it really often. I still have my lease.

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Speaker 1: We'll part of Florida, We'll part of Florida.

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Speaker 4: I'm in Fort Lauderdale.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: See, this is why I needed the show Bachelor and

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Speaker 4: Paradise to win the money. And I could have just

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Speaker 4: broke my lease, cup hot us together distance, but no,

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Speaker 4: I think by you know, twenty twenty six, we'll have

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Speaker 4: a lot in store for for us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think whenever her lease ends, I own my

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Speaker 5: house here in South Carolina. I think the long goal

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Speaker 5: is to live in Florida. I was just there this

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Speaker 5: past weekend, and I'm not gonna lie. It was really

446
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Speaker 5: tough to be in the you know, eighty degree weather,

447
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Speaker 5: and then by the time I landed in South Carolina

448
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Speaker 5: at ten o'clock at night, it was twenty five degrees.

449
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Speaker 5: I forgot to drip my faucet and my water froze.

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Speaker 5: So I'm like, sh dude, I did not want to

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Speaker 5: be here anymore. So long goal is to be in Florida.

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Speaker 5: But I think the short term goal is to probably

453
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Speaker 5: make her way to South Carolina for a little bit.

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Speaker 5: We'll live together, save some money, and then go buy

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Speaker 5: home that we can kind of both see ourselves living

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Speaker 5: in raising a family and down down in Florida.

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Speaker 1: What how far of a drive is that?

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Speaker 2: Ten hours?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Really, it's that I for some reason I thought it

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Speaker 1: was a lot closer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my sister said the same thing the other day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like South Carolina and Florida, Like, you're

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Speaker 1: right there.

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Speaker 2: Only five hours. It's only five hours to Jacksonville. But

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Speaker 2: when you get into like the southern part of Florida.

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Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's down.

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Speaker 1: There, Florida.

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Speaker 4: That's another thing we also said to like if he

470
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Speaker 4: was to live, probably in any other state, this wouldn't work,

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Speaker 4: like the flights an hour and a half, saying, you know,

472
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Speaker 4: we're on the east coast, even if he was, let's

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Speaker 4: say I was in Florida and he was Injuried Like,

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Speaker 4: to me, that's even too far, Like we're right, I

475
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Speaker 4: feel like where we need to be at least to

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Speaker 4: make long distance work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how have you guys been doing that? What's what

478
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Speaker 3: are the hacks? What are the tips to make this work?

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Speaker 3: Long distance?

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Speaker 4: We see each other basically every other weekend the past

481
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Speaker 4: time we have it, and that felt really long. But

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Speaker 4: just like planning things that like we're excited to like

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Speaker 4: do together, like we always have something to look forward to.

484
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Speaker 4: It's only off. I'm not going to lie, but you

485
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Speaker 4: know it's really worth it to us.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, which is being intentional.

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Speaker 5: It's being intentional with I think all of your conversations

488
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Speaker 5: and stuff, and obviously there's days where you know the

489
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Speaker 5: depth of some the depth of some certain conversations from

490
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Speaker 5: an outsider's perspective can be shallow or deep, but to

491
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Speaker 5: her and I, whenever you know you can feel the

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Speaker 5: emotion behind the words that you put out, whether it's

493
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Speaker 5: how is your day or if it's something that's you know,

494
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Speaker 5: a little bit more deep, as long as the intention

495
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Speaker 5: is there with you know, just hey, this person means

496
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Speaker 5: everything to me, then yeah, it's kind of.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of easy to maneuver through that.

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Speaker 5: Not seeing each other is definitely difficult, But the communication

499
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Speaker 5: aspect of it, she's a good communicator. I'm working on it,

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Speaker 5: but yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's it's one of those things.

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Speaker 5: It's really not as bad whenever the person means as

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Speaker 5: much to you as what Alijade means to me. What

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Speaker 5: are guys?

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Speaker 4: This horoscope signs I'm a Scorpio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm Capricorn.

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Speaker 1: I think what month were you born?

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Speaker 2: January January fourteenth?

509
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Speaker 1: What's January?

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Speaker 3: January? Is Capricorn and I think you're bordering on Aquarius.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what I don't Yeah, Okay, before

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Speaker 1: before we'd let you guys go, Sam, it's been announced

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Speaker 1: that you were casting on the Home Improvement Bachelor home

514
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Speaker 1: rental show. Were you surprised by that. How did it go?

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Speaker 1: What can you tell us without spoiling it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I was definitely shocked. I think anytime I

517
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Speaker 5: get a phone call from California, I'm like, oh gosh,

518
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Speaker 5: what if I.

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Speaker 1: Do you keep getting calls? I mean, I mean listen, like, hey,

520
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Speaker 1: this is like a year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, seriously.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's still the same shock every time I

523
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Speaker 5: get all the time, like these people they can't stand me,

524
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Speaker 5: and then they keep calling me. So I was shocked,

525
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Speaker 5: but I was also relieved to hear that it wasn't

526
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Speaker 5: a reality dating show. It was just more of a

527
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Speaker 5: you know, a renovation show. So it was it was

528
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Speaker 5: neat because that's definitely obviously more of my wheelhouse. So

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Speaker 5: it was a lot of fun. Honestly. It was cool

530
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Speaker 5: to get there, and I'm probably allowed to talk about

531
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Speaker 5: other people that are on the show. Noah Herb was

532
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Speaker 5: on the show, so it was cool because I had

533
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Speaker 5: met Noah previously. Well, Aaron was on the show, and

534
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Speaker 5: so Aaron was my roommate. He was my first roommate

535
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Speaker 5: in Australia, so I got to know him.

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Speaker 2: He's a twin. They live in Oklahoma. My dad is

537
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Speaker 2: from Oklahoma.

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Speaker 5: So actually the last time I went there, right after

539
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Speaker 5: the show, before the Bachelotte had aired. I was in Oklahoma,

540
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Speaker 5: and I stopped and I saw Noah and Abby and whatnot.

541
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Speaker 5: So it was cool to catch up with them, and

542
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Speaker 5: then to walk into the house and and see Noah there.

543
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Speaker 5: I was like, oh, well, this is awesome right here.

544
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Speaker 5: You know, I'm already friends with this guy.

545
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Speaker 2: So it was definitely a sense of relief. And then yeah,

546
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Speaker 2: the whole process of it was not what I was expecting.

547
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Speaker 2: I think in a really good way.

548
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Speaker 5: I had so much fun and definitely the most enjoyable

549
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Speaker 5: time I've had being a part.

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Speaker 2: Of being a part of a show, to say the least.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, Yeah, were you were you worried? Were you worried

552
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Speaker 1: at all? Because it is still a bachelor, right and

553
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Speaker 1: you guys are dating and now he's he's going on

554
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Speaker 1: a bachelor show that's supposedly about home improvement.

555
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Speaker 4: You never know, No I remember he called. I mean

556
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Speaker 4: he was like, I don't know if I should do it,

557
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 4: and I was like, you need to do this. This

558
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 4: is such a great opportunity, Like this is literally what

559
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Speaker 4: you do for a living, Like put yourself out there

560
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Speaker 4: First of all, never know what opportunities are going to

561
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Speaker 4: come from it, Like this is literally what you do

562
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Speaker 4: for a living. So I just thought, from like a

563
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Speaker 4: business standpoint regardless, that he should just go. And Yeah,

564
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Speaker 4: it was like early on when we first started dating

565
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Speaker 4: and we didn't know how long we would be apart

566
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Speaker 4: from each other. But I was so excited for him.

567
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Speaker 4: I was like, you gotta go, you gotta go. I

568
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 4: was like, I want to how come no one's asking me.

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Speaker 2: To do there?

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Speaker 3: Can you tell us a little bit, Sam, just like

571
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Speaker 3: your experience, what you do for people that maybe don't know,

572
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Speaker 3: and like how it you felt like it was going

573
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Speaker 3: to help you in this competition.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So I am a residential contractor back home, so one thing,

576
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Speaker 5: it's the only job I've ever had my entire life,

577
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Speaker 5: so being I think having the knowledge to be able

578
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Speaker 5: to build a home from the ground up is a

579
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Speaker 5: big plus. Also, just the vision that you have to

580
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Speaker 5: have in my field is you have to be able

581
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Speaker 5: to see the finished product before you ever start, and

582
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Speaker 5: that can be challenging.

583
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Speaker 2: So I felt pretty confident going into.

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Speaker 5: A show like that where we had to really put

585
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Speaker 5: our skill set out on the table, not just not

586
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 5: just building things, but being able to actually design things,

587
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Speaker 5: having to see an image and then bring it to life.

588
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Speaker 5: So I think me doing that for as long as

589
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Speaker 5: I have, and then going out there, I knew that

590
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Speaker 5: I would be or I assumed.

591
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Speaker 2: That I would be in pretty good shape.

592
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Speaker 5: I didn't know who all was going to be out there,

593
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 5: and yeah, everybody brought a different skill set to the table.

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Speaker 2: I think I've just been very fortunate to have a

595
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: pretty good teacher back here.

596
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 5: That has taught me so many different aspects to this field.

597
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 5: And then just being able to go onto that show

598
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 5: and implement all of them, just like it put my

599
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Speaker 5: mind to ease a little bit.

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Speaker 3: We're really excited to watch maybe you and know it

601
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Speaker 3: will be the next Property Brothers.

602
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 5: Who knows if there's.

603
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Speaker 3: A physical Bachelor competition, Ali, Joe, we gotta get you

604
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Speaker 3: on it.

605
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Speaker 4: I'll be the new Jesse Palmers.

606
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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 1: Thank you both so much for coming on and talking

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Speaker 1: to us, and hope you guys both enjoy your holidays.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, hope you guys have a

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Speaker 2: merry Christmas, a good new year.

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