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Speaker 1: about what that could be even more difficult is successfully

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Speaker 1: She was bored and was willing to lower her standards

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Speaker 1: just for a funny story to laugh about with all

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Speaker 1: of her hot, judgmental friends. Met One of our listeners

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Speaker 1: told us that over the last year he's been mixing

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Speaker 1: why he's on the phone with us right now.

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Speaker 2: Makes him the fool of the fool proof plan.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like, okay, well, Jared has already called you

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Speaker 1: a fool before you've even sett a congratulations.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's not what I meant, buddy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, if you call it fool proof and it doesn't work,

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Speaker 2: there's only one part that ends up true in that statement.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, welcome to the show man. How you doing,

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Speaker 1: don't get man?

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Speaker 4: How you guys doing?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: You got positive attitude still, that's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: So your email says that you're going out on a

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Speaker 1: lot of dates and you're trying these strategies to make

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd be like so frustrating and trying to get

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Speaker 4: and then so as I start talking about the second

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Speaker 4: and a lot of times I just get ghosted. And

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Speaker 4: then I was like, okay, well, at the end of

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Speaker 2: Date like a business contract.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm just like trying to get that genuine vibe.

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Speaker 1: Going, you know, Okay, that's okay, this was working well, Alexis.

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Speaker 1: You don't like the business handshake at the end of

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Speaker 2: No, because the handshakes ever period. What if he changed

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Speaker 2: it to a pinky swear, would.

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Speaker 1: You be more into that?

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Speaker 3: Slightly better?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Some rock paper sissors again?

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Speaker 1: What about mouth kiss to lock in? That second dish?

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Speaker 2: Doesn't lock in anything the tongues for a second.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not doing this.

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Speaker 4: Actually, it's plain that you mentioned pinky promise because that's

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Speaker 4: that's what I went with, because that's.

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Speaker 1: Sacred, you know, Oh really you did.

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Speaker 5: I was like, yo, pinky promise, but I'm like playful

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Speaker 6: Know, like, Okay, Yeah, is the pinky promise working better

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Speaker 2: What's our like percentage of success right here?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: So I've tried it three times. Even one of them

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Speaker 2: Okay, So that's why you're confused why it didn't work,

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Speaker 2: because it worked the first three times.

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Speaker 4: I see, and now he's the only one did not

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Speaker 2: So who's who's this girl who's bucking the trends? What's

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Speaker 4: Her name is Mona?

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Speaker 1: give us some clues for how this went. Did you

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Speaker 1: guys go to pf Chain's why is so specific because

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Speaker 2: Like that fancy fancy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've probably never been your parents take you to

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Speaker 2: The Missouri Mule.

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Speaker 1: Worse. Where did you go for your date? Jared?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we went to this uh this gold cart place.

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Speaker 4: Oh so fun.

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Speaker 2: I love go carts day. It's like ChIL go carts,

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Speaker 4: It was more like the high Octing when I had

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. That's a fun date because it's a

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Speaker 4: I kind of like lighting it up. I was like, yo,

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Speaker 4: I was kidding, but I would have done it just

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Speaker 2: You know, they frowned up drinking even if they do,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, twenty shotsol poisoning.

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Speaker 1: Trying to figure out how did she react to your joke, He.

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Speaker 4: Was like, oh, I don't think they let us do that.

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Speaker 5: She just kind of laughed it off.

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Speaker 6: Okay, okay, which is what the point was, right, But

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Speaker 2: Did you guys squeeze in dinner or drinks after the

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Speaker 4: We're there for like an hour and then headed out.

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Speaker 6: Okay, did this pinky swear feel different than the other

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Speaker 4: No, I didn't know something like that. So, like I said,

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of confused. That seemed from my I thought

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Speaker 4: we had a good time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and so you pinky promised to see each other again.

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Speaker 1: She has not followed through on the promise. So the

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Speaker 1: real question is when we call her now, should we

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Speaker 6: Her for breaking the con Obviously, she we have to

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Speaker 2: That's the whole point.

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Speaker 8: Of a pinky product.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, so we just gotta let her know, say, audios,

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Speaker 2: was it right hand or left hand?

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Speaker 1: That's right. I forgot about the rules of pinky promising.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna go get our machetes ready, we'll sharpen

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Speaker 1: Mona for you.

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Speaker 8: Cool.

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Speaker 4: No, oh, yeah that's cool. But yeah, that's not like

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Speaker 4: a like a real thing.

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Speaker 7: Though.

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Speaker 4: They only cut off your pinky finger for the Polish, right,

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Speaker 4: They don't do that.

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Speaker 1: No, on this show, we do.

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Speaker 2: I've never broken a pinky promise before.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we take it very very seriously, Jared. So, Mona's

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Speaker 1: on second date update. Oh, the pinky promise. It's a

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Speaker 1: sacred ritual that dates back hundreds, if not thousands of years.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: All the greatest rulers in history have used it to

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Speaker 1: Even Pinky swore right before he down sixty eight and

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Speaker 2: It's beautiful.

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Speaker 1: But recently somebody broke the eternal bonding promise of.

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Speaker 8: The pinky Jared's date Mona, because she promised that she

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Speaker 8: would see him again after they went go karting together,

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Speaker 8: but clearly the power of the pinky means nothing to.

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Speaker 1: Her and today, pinky, we want some answers on Jared's behalf.

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Speaker 2: I want some blood, Jeff, take that pinky off.

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Speaker 1: Pinky, promise that you'll give the man a chance this

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Speaker 1: time and not turn on him the instant. Another females

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Speaker 2: I don't like to make promises I can't keep, so.

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Speaker 1: Maybe okay, yeah, Jared, we got a maybe Brooke will

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, cool guy, Yeah, I just don't know what

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Speaker 2: else he's done. You know, you got to hear both

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm like saying yes to the terms and conditions

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Speaker 4: I don't even tell you guys to talk about, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: Keep up, thank you for your contribution. Let's call this woman.

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Speaker 3: Hello?

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Speaker 1: Is this mona?

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Speaker 2: Does this she? Aren't you? Friendly?

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Speaker 1: Friendly? The person who is speaking right now is the

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Speaker 1: lead host of a radio show called Brook and Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: in the Morning. Why didn't my other host laugh when

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Speaker 1: I said that, that's a weird that's my title.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Hi, Mona.

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Speaker 3: Hi, that's your lead hosts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're all co hosts together on Brook and Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: in the Morning, and we're doing a segment right now

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Speaker 1: called a second Date update.

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Speaker 7: Have you heard a lot of people, and.

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Speaker 1: We're trying to do something where we're helping one of

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Speaker 1: our listeners to get a second date with you because

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Speaker 1: Originally his name's Jared.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's like Jared planned an awesome date for

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Speaker 1: What does mean?

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Speaker 7: I guess like, did he tell you that we had

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Speaker 1: Yeah? You don't like that?

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Speaker 7: I thought, like soule phone on paper on paper?

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Speaker 2: Okay, what happened in real life? Helmets? Because I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we heard about most of the date from Jared

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Speaker 1: and the highlights were go cards, there were burgers and milkshakes,

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Speaker 1: you pinky promised him that you would see him a

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Speaker 2: It out right?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you're kind of a liar, okay, and

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if we can count that pinky

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Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone does. I think he meant a kiss on

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Speaker 1: the hand or a kiss on the mouth. That's not

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Speaker 2: Did you kiss him? Or did you not kiss him?

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Speaker 7: I had to swerve or curve.

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Speaker 4: Well is it?

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Speaker 2: Wait though, is it because you don't kiss on a

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 7: I think like the bigger itck was a little bit

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Speaker 2: Think so it was a bigger it.

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Speaker 7: Okay, so I know how this will sound.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a mean or shallow person, like I'm promised, but.

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Speaker 7: We were we were go karting, right, so we had

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Speaker 7: So it's like it's like every time I think about.

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Speaker 4: Him, I think about him, and.

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Speaker 1: It happens all the all the reasons.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's shallow. I just think that's one thing.

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Speaker 1: different But what about you. I mean, I'm sure that

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Speaker 7: Fair, it's a little hard, but I took the time

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's something you couldn't get over though, Like

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Speaker 2: It, Like you shouldn't see him in a go car

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Speaker 7: This, right, you know, it's just it's looms so big

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Speaker 1: So basically, you look super cute in your racing helmet

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Speaker 2: He's not second date materially here into that yet. That's

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Speaker 1: You know. It's a little harsh to my ears, but

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Speaker 1: the one. Yeah, he's probably all going through it the

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Speaker 7: No, oh my gosh, No, that's not nice.

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Speaker 1: What you said wasn't very nice. But let's yeah, helmets.

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Speaker 2: Ugly, she said, stupid like a.

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Speaker 1: Difference, Jared, are you there?

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Speaker 4: Are you serious? I look dumb in a go cart

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Speaker 7: My god, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 4: We're riding go carts. Everybody looks stupid and.

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Speaker 5: Like an idiot writing.

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Speaker 7: Do you think you were pulling it off?

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Speaker 4: You know, I didn't care how I looked. I was

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Speaker 5: I didn't like, it's not this is the Daytona five hundred.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, like I don't have to look you know, cool, Okay,

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Speaker 4: I know you.

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Speaker 1: Actually would look pretty cool if you were writ in the.

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Speaker 6: Dyton I think the point is is you found a

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Speaker 1: And he's presumably not going to be wearing a helmet

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but guys, I'm looking at the Selty picture right

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Speaker 1: Photoshop it so he doesn't look anymore. Put a nice

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Speaker 4: But I took off the helmet, and I look good

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Speaker 4: to what.

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Speaker 7: The image has been burned into my brain. It's like

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'd love to get the opportunity to burn a

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Speaker 4: And you pinky promise that's sacred.

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Speaker 2: You should give him another chance. He's a funny guy.

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Speaker 1: Don't unleash the wrath of the pinky gods on yourself.

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Speaker 7: Are so bad, Jared, I mean, if your ego is

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Speaker 1: Stop looking at the picture deleted. Oh my god, I

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Speaker 2: Tell her why she should.

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Speaker 4: Say yes, because you know, besides, then you look at Dominah.

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Speaker 4: How we had a good time even after.

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Speaker 5: We had when we had molk chasing burgers, you were.

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Speaker 4: Laughing and having fun. We had a good time, you.

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Speaker 7: Know, Yes, I was. My mind was taken off of

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Speaker 4: Then yay, yes, yes, yeah, that's what I thought.

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Speaker 1: Pinky promise has been restored. We can put them a

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Speaker 1: set away, all right, and make sure you burn any

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Speaker 2: He's like concussions, It doesn't matter anymore.

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Speaker 4: Now I'm gonna wear a cowboy hat.

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Speaker 2: That's a bold choice.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I don't know if.

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Speaker 4: You can pull that off.

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Speaker 1: All right, No country bars, Good luck, Brook and Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: in the morning, moving two point five, Oh man, I

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Speaker 1: messed up.

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Speaker 2: Why did you mess up before we got off the phone?

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Speaker 2: I probably agree, But why before we.

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Speaker 1: Got off the phone. I should have Pinky promised with

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Speaker 2: You brought it up, but I know I don't think

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Speaker 1: Jeff, you don't like to hear this, but let's keep

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Speaker 1: the fingers out of it.

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Speaker 6: Okay, you're probably It's like if she saw you wearing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you're right. Yeah, okay, where okay? But

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Speaker 1: funny there? That wasn't she more clever and more witty

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Speaker 2: It's a good point men they struggle. Yes, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: always talking about too late.

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Speaker 1: Now, you should have said that during the second day.

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like, I'll never have to bring it

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Speaker 1: That's true. Luckily, despite all of our many, many collective shortcomings,

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Speaker 1: we still manage to get them a second. If you

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Speaker 1: ever need help with your love life, email the show.

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Speaker 1: We'll call that person who's not calling you back.

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