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Speaker 3: After an extended delay. It is Friday, September twenty sixth,

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, episode five sixty eight of the Anticonfloring Podcast.

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Speaker 3: So much to get into on the mixed martial arts

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Speaker 3: as our head writer, researcher, longtime UFC dot Com staple

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Speaker 3: box in Hall of Famer Thomas Jrbasy passed away unexpectedly.

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Speaker 3: All right, A lot of things too unpack here, So

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Speaker 3: So Max Holloway is almost too big a superstar to

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Speaker 3: But I do feel for Charles a little bit, right.

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Speaker 5: We took a couple days in Morocco because we were

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Speaker 5: kind of took a quick ferry and and yeah, it

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Speaker 5: was great. It was great for the family. You know,

431
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Speaker 5: they were you know, my I have younger kids, so

432
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Speaker 5: they weren't so interested in the historical side of things.

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Speaker 5: But they got a chance to go to the beach,

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Speaker 5: run around, play and see some cool stuff. And uh,

435
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Speaker 5: it was fun, man, it was. It was good to

436
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Speaker 5: kind of disconnect from the phone a little bit and

437
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Speaker 5: hang with the family.

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Speaker 3: So did you did you bring your new hair to spend?

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Speaker 5: I did. My hair came with me and it's starting

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Speaker 5: to grow in. John. I we'll have to do a

441
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Speaker 5: big reveal show or.

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Speaker 3: Oh, let's do the big revelation Mike, John's you're paying attention.

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Speaker 3: I want to do that all right, So we will

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Speaker 3: get you an update on the UFC's White House situation.

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Speaker 3: All right, so everybody wants on the White House card,

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Speaker 3: right like you think fighters wanted on the Spear card

485
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Speaker 3: or the USA three hundred card. And don't even get

486
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Speaker 3: me started on on sphere. Why did I even say

487
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Speaker 3: sphere because kam Zatschimayav needs to headline the next Sphere show,

488
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Speaker 3: and I say the next and if Dana was listening,

489
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Speaker 3: which he is assuredly not, he would be like, We're

490
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Speaker 3: never going again. But it was just the broadcasting experience

491
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Speaker 3: of a lifetime. Perhaps it will be superseded by this

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Speaker 3: White House. Have you seen some of the uh what's

493
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Speaker 3: the word, the architectural word, the uh renderings?

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Speaker 5: The renderings. I have seen the renderings, so it looks

495
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Speaker 5: pretty damn cool.

496
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Speaker 3: Man the ceremonial wayan at the gosh darn Lincoln Memorial.

497
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Speaker 5: Let's do it, dude, that'd be sick. Honestly, it's crazy.

498
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Speaker 5: How f I say this all the time. It's crazy

499
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Speaker 5: how far this spart, this sport is gone. And of course,

500
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Speaker 5: with Donald Trump being a huge UFC fan, dude, let's go.

501
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 5: Let's make it happen.

502
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Speaker 3: So when you think about the growth of mixed martial arts,

503
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Speaker 3: and if you are watching on the DraftKings Network or

504
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Speaker 3: on YouTube, you now see some of these renderings. I

505
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Speaker 3: have probably been asked since this news came out in

506
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Speaker 3: the last however many months, one hundred times, if I'm

507
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 3: calling this fight, I mean health well well, health is wealth, right,

508
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 3: But I haven't as yet been assigned, and you know,

509
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: I'm hunkering down to call my last three pay per

510
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 3: views here, which is sort of a weird situation, you know. Yeah,

511
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Speaker 3: I mean they're going to be numbered events next year,

512
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Speaker 3: but you know, we got three more pay per views.

513
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Speaker 3: UFC three twenty is eight days away. But in terms

514
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Speaker 3: of the fighters and their desire to get on this

515
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Speaker 3: UFC White House car, I mean, can we bring Matt

516
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Speaker 3: the Immortal brown Back from the dead to knock a

517
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Speaker 3: motherfucker out in the White House. Here's my language. So

518
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Speaker 3: John Jones wants on the car, and I don't know

519
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Speaker 3: if DC is ratings chasing when he is saying that

520
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 3: John Jones should be fighting there, right, But Connor McGregor,

521
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Speaker 3: if he can sort of stay in his own lane

522
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Speaker 3: and stay on the right track, figures to land on

523
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Speaker 3: the card, maybe at a comin event. But yeah, I

524
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Speaker 3: mean I would think that, you know, Ilio Topulia would

525
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Speaker 3: even be thinking, right, if I can fight first quarter

526
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Speaker 3: and then position myself for June. The UFC three hundred

527
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 3: card was spectacular, Kenny, right, But UFC two ninety nine

528
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Speaker 3: a few weeks prior, some fans were saying, it's just

529
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Speaker 3: as good. The White House card is going to stratospherically

530
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Speaker 3: be without a comp in UFC history. In theory, they

531
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Speaker 3: will have five title fights, they will have every single

532
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Speaker 3: big star. They will hold Ronda Rousey's return. Until then,

533
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Speaker 3: It'll be Ronda, It'll be John, it'll be Connor, it'll

534
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Speaker 3: be Ilio Toportia, It'll be a Lex Poeton Pata. I mean,

535
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Speaker 3: what are we doing here? You know what I mean? Yes,

536
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Speaker 3: Conn McGregor versus Nate DS three. I mean, well, Michael Chandler,

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Speaker 3: I know I'm rambling kempflow, but what are we doing here?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's a asoric event. This is like a one

539
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Speaker 5: of one type of thing. You know, It's like, all right,

540
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Speaker 5: you know the sphere. I could potentially see the UFC

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Speaker 5: back there, right, even though Dana said he don't want

542
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Speaker 5: to do it again, I could see it back there

543
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Speaker 5: at the White House. I don't see them going back,

544
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Speaker 5: like just based yeah, just based on a different administration

545
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Speaker 5: or all the different things that they need to deal

546
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Speaker 5: with logistically to make a show like that happen on

547
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Speaker 5: the White House lawn. Like this is a one of

548
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Speaker 5: one show, So everybody, of course wants to be a

549
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Speaker 5: part of it. And yeah, a lot of it depends

550
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Speaker 5: on you know, like Okay, Connor says he wants to

551
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Speaker 5: be a part of it, but then he's kind of

552
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Speaker 5: like pricing himself out potentially, I would think with one

553
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Speaker 5: hundred million dollar ask and what he wants one hundred

554
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 5: golden visas for his family and friends, it's like, I

555
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 5: definitely want to do it. I'll come back for sure.

556
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 5: He's got to give me, you know, a billion dollars

557
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 5: to fight, So I don't know is he gonna Is

558
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Speaker 5: he gonna fight on that? I don't know. I would

559
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Speaker 5: love to see it happen. I think the Nate Diaz

560
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 5: fight for me, is way more intriguing as the trilogy

561
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Speaker 5: than a fight against Chandler. I don't want to see

562
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Speaker 5: the fight against Chandler at this point, if I'm being honest.

563
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Speaker 5: But for me, if you're gonna have one of your

564
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Speaker 5: big stars fight on that, I I'd make sure that

565
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Speaker 5: John Jones is on it. And I know, obviously, you

566
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Speaker 5: know a lot of stuff has happened outside the cage,

567
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Speaker 5: and you know, maybe John Jones is you know, considered

568
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Speaker 5: unreliable by data and all this, But I mean that

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Speaker 5: that would be the fight right him and aspinall, what's

570
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 5: bigger than that, right now.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I don't know I should factor prominently in

572
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Speaker 3: that equation. And you do wonder in terms of Connor McGregor,

573
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Speaker 3: I mean, say twenty five million, right would be a

574
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 3: more realistic number. And I really truly don't know what

575
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: his contracts is or the extent to which he could

576
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,719
Speaker 3: renegotiate that. But if the UFC's goal is to do

577
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Speaker 3: the biggest rating in the history of CBS for sports,

578
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 3: which they won't beat a Super Bowl, right, But if

579
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Speaker 3: their goal is to beat Kimbo Slighe or whatever the

580
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: internal goal might be, Connor McGregor would beat the driving

581
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Speaker 3: force behind whatever would be the biggest rating you could

582
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Speaker 3: possibly do. All right, we might want to get some

583
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Speaker 3: opinions from the start of the program. Let's get to

584
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Speaker 3: the Rad long Go Minute.

585
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Speaker 7: It is now time for the Ray Longo Minutes, Fu.

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Speaker 4: Ray Long Minute, John Annik and Kenny Florian podcast. Oh

587
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Speaker 4: God is good, God Good, Oh boy, God is good.

588
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 3: Ray Longo got down on his knees and he prayed

589
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Speaker 3: to the gods that Charlie Campbell would not ask him

590
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Speaker 3: to go to Perth, Western Australia.

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Speaker 4: Okay, he could have asked all he wanted. I wasn't going.

592
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Speaker 3: Oh man, I wonder what I would do if I

593
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: was an independent contractor. And Zach Candido called me and

594
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Speaker 3: was like, hey, you want to go to Perth? I

595
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Speaker 3: just got you go ahead plo.

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Speaker 5: My wife was like complaining about the nine hour flight

597
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Speaker 5: back from Spain to Charlotte, and she was like, oh

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Speaker 5: my gosh, I'm never going to do that again. On

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Speaker 5: the way back. I can't do nine hours. It's like,

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Speaker 5: you know, try eighteen hours to Abu Dabi. Try try

601
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Speaker 5: you know, fifty sixteen hour flight to Australia. It's insane.

602
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 5: It's insane. It will drive you mad being on a

603
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Speaker 5: plane that long, not to mention what it does to

604
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Speaker 5: your body and brain. Like right now, I'm all confused

605
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 5: at what time? What time it is?

606
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, John, He's he's hitting it right on the head,

607
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 4: because yeah, I really think I have to stop. But

608
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Speaker 4: nine hours is nothing. I don't it's nothing I could sit.

609
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 4: I don't even can say that on a trip. Right,

610
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Speaker 4: That's that's crazy.

611
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Speaker 3: But we are all so conditioned to our life experience.

612
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Speaker 4: Right.

613
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: But what's great about Clark Florie And it's not that

614
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: she can't do it, but it's that she doesn't have

615
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Speaker 3: to do it again. I like the outright refusal, right

616
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 3: because I am aligned with her, right, Like, I've been

617
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Speaker 3: trying to convince my son to go to Vegas with

618
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Speaker 3: me and he's like that six hours on a plane's

619
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Speaker 3: a non starter.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, I mean he's seven, But Kenny is

621
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 4: right though, I think it fries your brain at this point.

622
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 4: It's definitely, yeah, because I'm trying to figure out why

623
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Speaker 4: I'll get back, and like four days later, I'm in

624
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Speaker 4: the gym and I'm like, I have non g you know,

625
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 4: it's the time zone changes to day instead of bad you.

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Speaker 3: Know, oh, complete destruction to body or brain and we're

627
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: not even fighting and we're not.

628
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Speaker 4: Even fighting, Like those guys have to go flee.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's that shirt? Can flow? Huh?

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Speaker 5: It's like a jiu jitsu type shirt that event buddy

631
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Speaker 5: of mine, Power Trip. Yeah, Joe Staples, Joe Staples kind of.

632
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 3: Stas Joey Staples, Cody. So we got a lot of

633
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 3: things to get to with Ray long ago. Cody. If

634
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 3: you could, at some point in time get me both

635
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 3: poll question results and populate the chat with those, I

636
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: would appreciate the heck out of that. So UFC three

637
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 3: twenty is eight days away. That would mean Aljamain Sterling's

638
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 3: wedding I think would be nine days away. Big things

639
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 3: coming up for Ray long ago. You gotta touch, you

640
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 3: gotta see what's going on.

641
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 4: Chraze, What a what a fun week that's gonna be.

642
00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 3: No, yeah, I'm gonna crash the wedding. Don't tell that.

643
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 4: He's saying there's going to be some big surprises. You

644
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 4: might be one of them.

645
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 3: Huh yeah, No, I mean, can you imagine a more

646
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: underwhelming surprise? Trying fat white jew John Anx.

647
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 4: Here it is, gotcha and you hear this?

648
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 3: All right?

649
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you one guy in the audience.

650
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 3: All right. So Morob Dwallash, Willie Kenny and I later

651
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 3: today are taping the Anak and Florian rewind for UFC

652
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: Fight Pass. And one thing that you're gonna hear me say,

653
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 3: and I'm not trying to say this hyperbolically at all. Right,

654
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: I've talked about other fights. I think Rob Dallas Willey

655
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 3: right now is the biggest MMA superstar in the United

656
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: States of America among active fighters. What do you say

657
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 3: to that?

658
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 4: I think it's hard to disagree with that. I really do.

659
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, man, the guy's say social media presence.

660
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 4: Everything he does is pretty funny, it's thoughtful, it's insightful.

661
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 4: He's a beast. I mean, I think the training with

662
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 4: DJ that he's been putting up is phenomenal. That those

663
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 4: guys are getting together and rolling around and having fun.

664
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 4: I mean, I look at guys just living the American

665
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 4: dream at this point, and he loves fighting. So like

666
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 4: this is like us doing this podcast. It's it's I

667
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 4: don't believe there's any difference. You know, we talk about

668
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 4: the flying and the crazy, were trying to I just

669
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 4: think he's immune to all of that shit right now.

670
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 4: Will it catch up with him someday maybe, But when

671
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 4: you enjoy doing something as much as he does, it's

672
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 4: it's it's hard, man. You know, he's he's in there

673
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 4: for the right reason. He loves to fight. There's other

674
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 4: guys that want to maneuver their way up there, try

675
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 4: to make some money. You know, he was never that

676
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 4: guy and he never will be that guy.

677
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 5: John. And he's gaining more power, like with every win,

678
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 5: you know, like he got better. And they say this, right,

679
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 5: when you get the belt, you get a little bit

680
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 5: of a percentage better. That has been absolutely clear with

681
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 5: this guy. And with every single win, he becomes more popular,

682
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 5: he becomes more powerful, he becomes more confident. I have

683
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 5: a really tough time trying to think of someone who

684
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 5: can beat him right now. Like he's just firing in

685
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 5: all cylinders.

686
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 4: Man, listen, and it's organic, Kenny. I think that's what

687
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 4: to me. I even look at it, like, you know,

688
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 4: when Aljo had the belt, he was laying back. He

689
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 4: didn't have to. He didn't do to social media as

690
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 4: soon as Aljiae was tittl and you know those guys

691
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 4: did what they had to do. He just went bisark

692
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 4: right and like. And it's his continence now is just

693
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 4: to me, that's what it is. He'll try submissions, he'll

694
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 4: try to knock. Yeah, he doesn't. You know, he did

695
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 4: play it a little safe coming up. You know, he

696
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 4: wanted to get to wear you know what he had

697
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 4: to do. I don't think he gives his shit anymore.

698
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 4: I think he's just it's it's not he's getting better. Obviously,

699
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 4: you get better as time goes on, no matter what technically,

700
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 4: but it's his is free and that's what I see.

701
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 4: He doesn't like he doesn't have anything to prove that.

702
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 4: That's a dangerous guy. And he's got you know, and

703
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 4: and he's tough as health and he's relentless, So good

704
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 4: luck dealing with him. You know.

705
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: I always try to be a good listener, and oftentimes

706
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 3: you guys say stuff of value and it completely redirects

707
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 3: my thought process in terms of things that I wanted

708
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 3: to discuss. I mean, Ray, you just brought up so

709
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: many valuable things. And when you think about his career,

710
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: maybe playing it safe a little bit early and now

711
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 3: it's just bad out of hell all systems go. But

712
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 3: in terms of real quick and if we could be

713
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 3: succinct on this, I'd appreciate it. His star power in

714
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 3: the United States of America because this is a global sport,

715
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 3: but the three of us live in the US, and

716
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 3: this sport is growing in the United States. And I

717
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: don't know how EA Sports with their video game internally

718
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: metrically quantifies Ila Topuria, who in my opinion, probably would

719
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 3: be the front runner to be on the next game

720
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 3: versus Morob Dwallish Willie, And I don't know the extent

721
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 3: to which you take a fighter's fan base when you

722
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 3: fight them, like Abeb Normago Madov against Conor McGregor Orrob

723
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 3: Dwallas Willy against Sean O'Malley. But I'm embedded in this sport.

724
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: I'm at all these pay per views and the fan

725
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 3: response in the US too. Morob right now, you know, like,

726
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 3: to me, he's the biggest most adored guy in the US,

727
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 3: And I'm sure some of the fan base, if I'm

728
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 3: grossly wrong, will tell me.

729
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 4: But jud first of all, he's the American dream. You

730
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 4: have to root for the guy, even when he got

731
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 4: his citizenship. I mean, he does everything. He's doing everything

732
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 4: right and you know, and he appreciates it. He's humble,

733
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 4: he appreciates what it means to be in America. I believe.

734
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 4: I think he upholds everything that we think is good

735
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 4: about America. I think he represents that. Why wouldn't you

736
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 4: root for this guy? Like you have to be crazy?

737
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 4: You know, he's not you know, seems to stay neutral.

738
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 4: He's not you know, bought about political stuff. You know

739
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 4: what I mean, knows what his lane is. He's not

740
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 4: going to pick a side and cut out half the

741
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 4: other side. He's just he's just doing Morob. And what

742
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 4: I see is a fantastic story. That's what I see

743
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 4: when I look at that guy. I'm listen to know

744
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 4: him from the beginning. It's this is crazy, it's awesome,

745
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 4: It's crazy, Kenny.

746
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 3: I think Bolkanovsky has been that guy in the US.

747
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 3: I think right now you could argue that Poeton is

748
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: still that guy. You know. I got a text at

749
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 3: a really early hour of the morning from a lady

750
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: today looking for tickets to see Poeton again. So I

751
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 3: think he could be that guy in the States. I

752
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 3: think Topotia is a guy that people would be dying

753
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 3: to see at this point. But Morob's in the KO

754
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 3: main event and even during the NFL season. This dude

755
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 3: is moving the American needle.

756
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 5: He's put himself in this in this position, and he's

757
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 5: done it the right way. He's there's a lot of

758
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 5: guys who have become popular, but they've become popular, you know,

759
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 5: through the more modern means of talking trash or being flat.

760
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 5: You're doing this. He's done it with his actual work.

761
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 5: He's done it with his work. He's done it with

762
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 5: his performances. People have seen him come up like like raded,

763
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 5: not to the extent that Ray did, you know, behind

764
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 5: the scenes, but to see a guy who you know,

765
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 5: people didn't really like his style or oh he's doing this,

766
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 5: doing that, but then all of a sudden he wins

767
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 5: and he's getting all this consistency like, oh, this guy's legit,

768
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 5: and now he's actually you know, going in there and

769
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 5: beating the top guys, the biggest names, uh, you know,

770
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 5: some of the biggest names in the sport. It's amazing

771
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 5: to see man and he's done it all in the

772
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 5: traditional way.

773
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 4: Right, And I'm gonna say this and yeah, right, I

774
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 4: don't even know if it's traditional, but again for everybody

775
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 4: out there, he did it in an organic way. He

776
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 4: didn't I don't think he even meant to do with Kenny.

777
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 4: He just had fun. That's enough what he was doing,

778
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 4: and that's the way it should be, right, Like, he

779
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 4: didn't care. I don't think if anybody was looking at it,

780
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 4: were we're looking at it. But so happened to be

781
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 4: that people did start putting their right balls on it.

782
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 4: And it's crazy, even his sense of humor, you know,

783
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 4: when you go way back to when he had the

784
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 4: board and this guy fights this guy, that guy fights. Yeah,

785
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 4: even his to come up with that, and I would ask,

786
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 4: you've got somebody right and your stuff. Now he goes,

787
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 4: I'm doing it, you know, So I think it was

788
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 4: he just was he he embraced everything. Yeah, he had fun.

789
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 4: It was almost like when al Joe left that division,

790
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 4: he was free to do what he wanted to do.

791
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 4: Now he's winning and he's getting confident. He's free to

792
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 4: do whatever the fuck he feels like doing, and then

793
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 4: who knows, he might start knocking people out and then

794
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 4: when submitting people like he did he caught people by

795
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:43,479
Speaker 4: surprise with the O'Malley fight. But uh, just good stuff, man,

796
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 4: really good to see.

797
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 3: My personal connection with Morob Larsly is rooted in my

798
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 3: relationship with you, you know, and I think that's why

799
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: me and Rob are close. But Kenny, I can't think

800
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 3: of a single fighter and we'll move on now. But

801
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 3: that I've gotten, like progressively more starstruck to be. It's

802
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 3: a crazy feeling that like now when I see him,

803
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 3: I'm like starstruck and like it ever used to be

804
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 3: that way. It's right, he's just a special, special guy

805
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 3: and he's fighting a really special guy in Corey Sandhagen.

806
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 3: You know another thing that we're going to talk about

807
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 3: later today on the Anna employ and rewind is, if

808
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 3: Morob is this superstar that I believe him to be,

809
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 3: Sanagan might be the most beloved guy by the roster

810
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 3: fighters for a guy who hasn't won the Ultimate Prize.

811
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 3: And I know Kenny and a lot of other guys

812
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 3: are really excited to see what he can do with

813
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 3: this Herculean challenge. So what are your thoughts on the

814
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: Sanhagan challenge? Right that's in front of you.

815
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 4: Oh listen, I've always been a big Sanhagen fan from

816
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 4: day one. You know, another guy. I like his attitude,

817
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 4: I like has approach to everything. You know, Look, Sanagan

818
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 4: is dangerous, and you know this is his one opportunity, right,

819
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 4: He's got what this is a you like? You said herculean?

820
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 4: Was that the words you used?

821
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: I don't even like that fucking word either.

822
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, well whatever, but it is a big, big test.

823
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 4: But I tell you, Sanegan, obviously you can't go to

824
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 4: sleep on a guy like Sanagan. But I think he's

825
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 4: only got one way you get Morab out of them. Morob,

826
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 4: He's got to slow down a freight trade in front

827
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 4: of him. But that Sanagan is super talented.

828
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna give you three options here, and I

829
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 3: would like you to put them in order. Ray, This

830
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 3: is not a would you rather? This is MMA? Just relax?

831
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: You look relaxed?

832
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 4: All right? What the fuck did I say?

833
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 3: I'm joking having fun with it. Have any coffee yet today? Ray,

834
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 3: eleven forty five am right now?

835
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm on my first cup right now.

836
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 3: I've lived here almost four months. I haven't even made

837
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 3: my way to see you or your team or anybody else. Horrible, horrible,

838
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 3: just trying to get in shape enough to punch Steve

839
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: Lee in the mouth and not.

840
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 4: Twenty minutes twenty minutes forty minutes top.

841
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: From where I am to you? What's your gym called?

842
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 3: Is Wideman's name is still on the front of the

843
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 3: fucking building? What's your gym?

844
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 4: Longos? Mma? Yeah?

845
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 3: All right, I love you, stee it put it in

846
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 3: oh man?

847
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 4: All right?

848
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 3: Yeah? Right now. I mean it's not rush hour fifty

849
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 3: nine minutes, thirty six miles.

850
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 4: I mean right on the thirty six miles. I could

851
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 4: ride there on my bicycle.

852
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 3: Come on, We're gonna ask you later if you'd rather

853
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 3: ride here on your bike or with a unicorn behind you? Know, so,

854
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 3: I believe there's a ferry that could get me there

855
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 3: more expeditiously.

856
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 4: But uh no, I don't think so okay, I don't

857
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 4: think the ferry for with fifty nine minutes is nothing?

858
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: All right? Well, no, you make the plan. At some

859
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 3: point will break bread. Maybe you put me through a workout,

860
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 3: have me push this letter.

861
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go, man, I'm ready, let's do it. I'd

862
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 4: love it. I would love that.

863
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 5: Take them to that Vietnamese place you took me to.

864
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, there you go. Yeah, a million long island.

865
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 4: That's such a long island is such a beautiful.

866
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 3: Place, John, Yeah, I can't wait to come at.

867
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 4: You should have you should have moved to Long Island.

868
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 3: I don't even know what to say.

869
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 5: You know, like he'll never move to New.

870
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 4: York where your father grew up. You know, maybe seafoed

871
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 4: something like that.

872
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 3: There you go, there you go? Can't flow? Do you

873
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 3: know where I live now? I'm right on the border

874
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 3: of Connecticut and New York. I kid you guys not.

875
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: I could run twenty steps on the New York that's wow,

876
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 3: the border.

877
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 5: I am crazy.

878
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 4: He's rubbing it in Even worse.

879
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 5: He still doesn't want to see.

880
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: If I don't come to see you before Halloween. You

881
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 3: can feel free to terminate the friendship.

882
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 4: Okay, Halloween, we're gonna be all over the place. I got.

883
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 4: I'm on like fifteen trips between now and hallowe.

884
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 5: Now, what's your know he's making the excuses, John, Right?

885
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Hey.

886
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 3: At least you Gotrobs not fighting an Abu Dhabi.

887
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 4: Right, that's true, That's true. Right.

888
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 3: I love going to Abu Dhabi. Incidentally, so I'm excited

889
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 3: about all Right, a few other things I'd like to

890
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 3: get to with Ray, but I still need to probe

891
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 3: you with this question. I'm gonna give you three options. Ray.

892
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 3: You put them in order of your level of excitement

893
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 3: slash enthusiasm. Are you ready to play?

894
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm rady. I'm ready. John. Yeah, that's the

895
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 4: first one. Well, you know what, I was sleeping, but

896
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 4: now I'm really awake.

897
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: Oh man. By the way, you know we talked the

898
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 3: other week. I'm gonna table that for a second. All right,

899
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 3: three things, three things? You put them in order of excitement.

900
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: Ronda Rousey coming back to mixed martial arts. Connor McGregor

901
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 3: fighting at the White House, John Jones fighting at the

902
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 3: White House. Number one, you're most excited about of those

903
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 3: three as.

904
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 4: Wow?

905
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 3: Uh would you like the questions beforehand in advance of

906
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 3: next week?

907
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 4: Oh, that'll always help. He's thinking, he's thinking about McGregor,

908
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 4: Rowsy and Jones.

909
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 3: Okay, so most excited about Connor at the White House.

910
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: It's probably a pretty good question for the show. Then

911
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 3: Rowsey a comeback. So what is your relative level of

912
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 3: enthusiasm for Aronda rowsy comeback and how much of it

913
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 3: has to do with maybe opponents?

914
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 4: Oh, I think it would have to The opponent would

915
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 4: be a big factor in today.

916
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think it's a fascinating conversation just in

917
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 3: terms of her athleticism, her relative meanness, why she's coming back.

918
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 3: I don't think she would want to come back for

919
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 3: like a non title fight, right, Like, don't you think

920
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 3: it's coming back?

921
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 4: I can't see it. Yeah, I would think it has

922
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 4: to be and that's man that first off, that's not

923
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 4: a good matchup for her, but that would be a

924
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 4: great intriguing matchup for everybody. I mean, to judo people,

925
00:46:58,560 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 4: I think Taylum.

926
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 5: Talk, but then they both can talk. They both fight

927
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 5: extremely well.

928
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I mean I think I think the judo

929
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 4: thing makes it intriguing to everybody. Right, they were both medalists,

930
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 4: but Taylor, I think.

931
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 3: Is well, one's active, one hasn't fought in years, right,

932
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 3: And yes, it would be a major ask for Ronda

933
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: to come back and beat Kayla. I understand that, you know.

934
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 4: But the beauty of it is both of their striking isn't,

935
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 4: you know, at the highest level. So I don't think

936
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 4: she has to worry about that, like they fight and

937
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 4: Amanda noon as again where she's going to get picked

938
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 4: apart and not be able to take somebody down. These

939
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 4: people look like these two would engage on the floor,

940
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 4: which I think would make for a very exciting fact.

941
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 4: I'd love to see that.

942
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 3: So all right, we talked about rousing because you were

943
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 3: excited about that, But in terms of Connor McGregor, how

944
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 3: much of your enthusiasm has to do with opponent? And

945
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 3: let me just give you a little bit more on that,

946
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 3: because if the UFC truly is in the business of

947
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 3: putting on the fights that the fans want to see,

948
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: I understand sometimes you know, like Yaya Rodriguez says, Hunter

949
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 3: Campbell has promised him a title fight, you know, and

950
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 3: I understand that Michael Chandler certainly has been promised that

951
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 3: Connor McGregor fight any number of times over verbally or otherwise.

952
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: But I mean, you're gonna do Connor McGregor Michael Chandler

953
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 3: at the White House as opposed to Connor McGregor Nate

954
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 3: Diez like the fans, Do you, as a fan want

955
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 3: to see Connor McGregor back? Do you do you want

956
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 3: to see him versus Michael Chandler. I just don't know

957
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 3: about that. That has that ship not sailed to Perth.

958
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 4: Listen, all of those ships might have sailed to Perth,

959
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, So they'd have to come

960
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 4: up with something. I just think kind of brings It's

961
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 4: not just the fight with Connor. So the opponent is important,

962
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 4: but he brings all the antics and all the other

963
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 4: stuff to the table that could really get people going.

964
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 4: And I think that's why he'd be on the White

965
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 4: House thing. I think he'd be It could actually be

966
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 4: refreshing to see him go easy again at the press

967
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 4: conference and you know, start torturing people. So yeah, he's

968
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 4: got that. He's got a couple of gimmicks going. You know,

969
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 4: he's a good fighter and he's got a great gift

970
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 4: of gab, and he's he's always on, he's never r

971
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 4: off with that stuff. So that might be refreshing now

972
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 4: to see that.

973
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 3: I'd like to see Michael Chandler Kenny on the on

974
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 3: the White House card. I mean, the guy comes out

975
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,919
Speaker 3: with the stars and stripes. He can knock a dude

976
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 3: out easily. I just would rather see Chandler again somebody

977
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 3: else go ahead.

978
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 5: Ken, Yeah, absolutely, you know I think you know I

979
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 5: if Connor's gonna come back and he's gonna take this

980
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 5: seriously and all that stuff, I say, let's go even

981
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 5: a little bit bigger. Give me a haul away, give

982
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 5: me a Dan Hooker, give me one of those fights.

983
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 5: Maybe if Charles Oliver or something like that. It's like

984
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 5: where people really want to see two great fires go

985
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 5: at it. Like the thing about the sport has grown

986
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 5: so much where it's gone past the nostalgia point. People

987
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 5: just want to see good fights. I want to see

988
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 5: a good fight. The UFC roster has it. Let's make

989
00:49:58,920 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 5: it happen.

990
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 4: Yeah. And to Kenny's point, I mean this sport every

991
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 4: five years, I think they forget about you. If you're

992
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 4: not active. You know what, I mean like it. It's

993
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 4: not a long window. Uh you know. Yeah, I I

994
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 4: deal with young guys in the gym. I mean, if

995
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 4: you're really a fan, you could go back and talk

996
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 4: about some of those other fights. But if not, you know,

997
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 4: they it's like Kenny says, they want to see good fights,

998
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 4: and they want to see people they know that they

999
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 4: watch come up in the last couple of years.

1000
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a good show for Kenny Florian. I

1001
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 3: don't think anybody would deny that. I agree with you, Kenny.

1002
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 3: I would have a much I would have a much

1003
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 3: bigger appetite for Connor McGregor versus Dan Hooker or Charles

1004
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 3: Lavera as opposed an ideas, And I got Nada's artwork

1005
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 3: all over the place. I got a two nine tattoos.

1006
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 3: So I hear you. I want the biggest fights, just

1007
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 3: like you guys do. All right, go one second, John,

1008
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 3: Oh wow, we haven't done this in a while. You know,

1009
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 3: I was gonna go get my.

1010
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 4: Uh the computer was going to die to plug in.

1011
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 4: I'm like a computer technology guy.

1012
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 3: So Charlie Campbell is in wa can you hear me?

1013
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1014
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 3: So Charlie Campbell now trains out of Syndicate MMA in

1015
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 3: Las Vegas. If I'm not mistaken, but he is fighting

1016
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 3: Tom Nolan in the lightweight division on the main card

1017
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 3: this weekend. Any thoughts on Shaky Campbell?

1018
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 4: Uh? You know, I really I've been out of touch

1019
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 4: with Charlie. I saw him for Freddy's fight a couple

1020
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 4: of weeks ago. I know he took the fight kind

1021
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 4: of on last minute notice, but I really don't know

1022
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 4: much about it. Really don't know how hard he was training.

1023
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 4: I'm sure he was training with Evan Elder because when

1024
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 4: Elder got hurt, you know, I think Charlie jumped right

1025
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 4: in there. But yeah, that's all I know.

1026
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 3: All right, are you bringing your wife to Las Vegas?

1027
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:51,959
Speaker 4: Yes?

1028
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 3: For the wedding.

1029
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's very exciting.

1030
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 3: So when we get off the air, you can just

1031
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 3: text me the wedding location and if you don't mind.

1032
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 3: I've never crashed a wedding before, I'm gonna do it

1033
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 3: because I have to stay for a shoot.

1034
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 4: I don't think it's your rudin every wedding. I think

1035
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 4: I think the Jamaicans do it a little bit different.

1036
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 4: I think you could just walk in.

1037
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Well, uh yeah, I mean This feels

1038
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 3: a little bit weird, but maybe I.

1039
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 4: Say, I say, you show up, you know, just bring

1040
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 4: a card with you.

1041
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 3: What, oh a credit card?

1042
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 4: What kind of all?

1043
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 7: Though?

1044
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 4: I mean I met a wedding card.

1045
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 3: But you could, Oh that is a phenomenal idea. Yes,

1046
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 3: of course I did not show up at the handed.

1047
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 3: I would slide them a little bit of an envelope

1048
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 3: or whatever I'm saying.

1049
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 4: Aljoel would love to see you.

1050
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I hope you have an amazing time. We will,

1051
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 3: of course talk to you before then. Final question before

1052
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 3: we get you on out of here. Dominic Rays Carlos

1053
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 3: Alberg main event Perth, Western Australia. Do you have a

1054
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 3: prediction on the main events? You know who's the betting favorite.

1055
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna say old Berg's the betting favorite. Yeah,

1056
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 4: it should. It should be pretty close though, I would think.

1057
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Producer Cody Merrisey's value on Dominic Rays at plus

1058
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 3: two ten or so Alberg is minus two fifty eight.

1059
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 3: So maybe a little bit wider than you thought. Uh,

1060
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 3: it sounds like you think Alberg is going to win

1061
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 3: the fight or no.

1062
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 4: Uh, he hasn't done anything to super impress me Oldberg,

1063
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:33,439
Speaker 4: But I think if Rese's chin is intact, I'm gonna

1064
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 4: pick where he is to win that fight. At plus

1065
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 4: two ten, I take a shot with that. Cody just

1066
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 4: two big guys. You know, anything that happened, but Rey's

1067
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 4: has looked good. I think he's having a nice comeback.

1068
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 4: He did the right thing. He took some time off,

1069
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 4: so uh yeah.

1070
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 3: You know, if Dominic rays wins and positions himself for

1071
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 3: a title fight, it'll be one of the craziest things

1072
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 3: that's happened if you have history. Cody just wrote in

1073
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 3: the chat like it's an honor if Dana or John

1074
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 3: shows up to the wedding and Cody with total respect.

1075
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 3: Like if Dana showed up, that would be really cool.

1076
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 3: If John Anick shows up, it's like what is he

1077
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 3: doing here? In some part like I'm not trying to

1078
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 3: like denigrate myself. This isn't self deprecation, but like, yeah,

1079
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 3: maybe if I show up all Hendrick's ginned up to

1080
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 3: see my friend long ago, it makes some sense. But

1081
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 3: otherwise it's like, dude, like you weren't invited.

1082
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 5: I got him in, I got him early when before

1083
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 5: he was really do.

1084
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 4: You think Alinger would do you think Aljia would have

1085
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 4: security remove you immediately.

1086
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 3: That would be amazing.

1087
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 4: Come on, John, that's easy. John. Think how good that

1088
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 4: would be for the podcast. Listen if you got physically

1089
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 4: removed and then we showed a footage on the podcast,

1090
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,959
Speaker 4: we could we could elevate this podcast. I agree, I say,

1091
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 4: I say you do it.

1092
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 3: I'm in. I'm in good stuff. Hey, before we let

1093
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 3: you go, I just want to to get a thought

1094
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 3: on Tom Gerbasie. I don't know how much he crossed

1095
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 3: your wake, but this is a massive loss for so

1096
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 3: many of us, not just in terms of the amazing

1097
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 3: human being that we all knew him to be, but

1098
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 3: just in terms of a lot of our professional daily lives.

1099
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 3: He was inexorably linked to them, and he was a

1100
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,479
Speaker 3: huge part of my process, and it's very heavy going

1101
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 3: through that process without Tom.

1102
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 4: Oh. I mean, I didn't know him that well, but

1103
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 4: I can tell you any conversation I had when it

1104
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 4: was always he was a very mellow, low key guy.

1105
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 4: I think Staten Island guy right. Never got to know

1106
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 4: him that well, but I think the last time I

1107
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 4: told to him, I think we talked about his dad,

1108
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 4: maybe fought in the Golden Gloves well, he might even

1109
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 4: fought in the Golden Gloves, but he just came across

1110
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 4: as a super nice guy. Yeah, well spoken and very

1111
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 4: low key. I think that was what my memory of

1112
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 4: him was, just, you know, just a low key good guy.

1113
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 4: You know, I probably wish I would have got to

1114
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 4: know a little more, but you know, I had a

1115
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 4: bunch of conversations with him. But that was it.

1116
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 3: Essentially, every UFC fighter bio that had ever been generated

1117
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 3: up until the Perth Show was generated by Tom's your basie.

1118
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 4: I'm not sure I didn't know that.

1119
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that there's more connective tissue with unemployee

1120
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 3: in fighters than Tom having talked to probably every single

1121
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 3: fighter on the roster. I'm not even sure that I

1122
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 3: can lay claim to having talked to every fighter on

1123
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 3: the roster. But yeah, Staten Island, I'm driving there tomorrow

1124
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 3: for the service. Maybe i'll stop by and UH and

1125
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 3: see on the way back, unless you're busy.

1126
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 4: You know, he stopped by Brooklyn, go to UH, Spamoni Guardens,

1127
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 4: pick up a pie, bring it to the gym. It's

1128
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 4: on the way back.

1129
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 5: Pizza delivery guy.

1130
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 4: You would love it. I'm doing even letting you know about.

1131
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 3: Bet your five pies. I mean, I I don't know

1132
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 3: how to navigate New York in terms of what's on

1133
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 3: the way and what's not. Where are you going to

1134
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 3: be on Saturday night around seven or eight o'clock.

1135
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 4: Pm, waiting for you whoever you are?

1136
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 5: Bang?

1137
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 4: All right?

1138
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 3: Well, maybe i'll see you tomorrow. Maybe maybe one more

1139
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 3: sleep until I see it. Maybe not, We'll see.

1140
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 4: I'll tell you. I feel like this is gonna happen.

1141
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 3: Hey, love you, buddy. We look forward to talking to you.

1142
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 3: We've got a quick term. We'll talk to you on

1143
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 3: Monday and preview this may per view a little bit

1144
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 3: more beautiful. Take it easy, Ray, Ray long go minute

1145
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 3: every week here on the Anakin Florian Podcast. Not sponsored

1146
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 3: this week incidentally, but perhaps in the not too distant future.

1147
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 3: I would like to bring my twin brother into the

1148
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 3: program at this moment in time. Jason Annakapp Boston Ant

1149
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 3: Dirty boxing commentator, PGF World commentator. You can also catch

1150
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 3: him during the NFL season on the Last Men Standing podcast. Jay,

1151
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 3: It's nice to see it, man, your hair looks pretty

1152
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 3: good today. Hey, so if I were setting the odds

1153
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 3: on you and Ray Longo Breaking bread Saturday night, I

1154
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 3: would say probably you not breaking bread with Ray maybe

1155
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,919
Speaker 3: like minus eight point fifty and you and Bray Ray

1156
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 3: breaking even if you don't bring a pie. But anyway,

1157
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 3: I hope you guys connect after that. So J texted

1158
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 3: me at eleven fourteen am, Kenny, Gus looks like you

1159
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 3: put baby in the corner at the Gorilla. I really

1160
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 3: get a table to put Gus on a table.

1161
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 5: He needs to be elevated, for sure.

1162
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 3: I feel Gus is like, dude, when I get up here,

1163
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 3: I'm going to fucking eat you.

1164
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 4: You know.

1165
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 3: But when you put out that poll about the cursing, right,

1166
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 3: and for those of you young'ins that real quick, can

1167
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 3: I read it before or do you want to go ahead?

1168
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 4: No?

1169
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 5: Go ahead, all right?

1170
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 3: So I just want to read the pole question, of

1171
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 3: which he is referring to Ken Flow rarely cusses on

1172
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 3: the podcast, but would you like there to be less

1173
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 3: swearing on the show? Eighty three percent of you said no,

1174
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 3: seventeen percent said yes, go ahead, Jay, I just thought

1175
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 3: about coming on the show today, like the great Dennis

1176
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 3: Leary opened one of his shows when he said thank you,

1177
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,919
Speaker 3: thank you, thank you, and fuck you, you know, which

1178
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 3: was just great, you know, but no race wears all

1179
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 3: the time. So for anyone who ingests this program, it

1180
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 3: just kind is what is. But John, I read that

1181
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 3: tweet as you kind of like to let it flow

1182
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 3: a little bit instead of using other adjectives that you

1183
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 3: less prefer. Right, if I were calling you this morning

1184
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 3: about Ronda Rousey, I would call you Jay, and I

1185
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 3: would say, Dude, I think Ronda Rowsey's gonna fucking come

1186
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 3: back and fight fucking KLA. That's what I would say.

1187
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 3: And so I'm bringing that energy which is me and yes, evolutionary.

1188
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 3: Maybe I swear more at forty seven than twenty two,

1189
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'm bringing me to the airwaves

1190
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 3: and I can't always bring all of me to a

1191
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 3: television setting. But that's it's not like trying to sound

1192
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 3: cool or it's how you and I talk.

1193
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, So can I move on from that poll real quick?

1194
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1195
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 3: So I know we're gonna talk about dirty boxing, and

1196
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 3: I thought maybe Ray and I were going to cross over.

1197
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 3: But forgive me for those who tuned into this show,

1198
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 3: it was probably ten days ago, twelve days at this point,

1199
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 3: after Cannello, Crawford and Ray came on, and I texted

1200
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 3: Ray right after his appearance on the show, and I

1201
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 3: told him I agreed with everything he said. And you

1202
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 3: talk about bouts of consequence, and you brought it up today, John,

1203
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 3: and you've said to me about dirty boxing, and I

1204
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 3: know we'll get to Gable Stevenson. You talk about bouts

1205
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 3: of consequence when it's Joel Romero or Andre Rolovsky at

1206
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 3: our age getting in there. But what I will say,

1207
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 3: I know there was huge consequence with Canelo Crawford, but

1208
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 3: as I sat there arm's length behind you, there weren't

1209
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 3: any consequential blows. There wasn't any blood, There wasn't a

1210
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 3: lot of sort of consequence. It felt like whereas when

1211
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 3: I go to watch the Professional Grappling Federation, legs get broken.

1212
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 3: Right when I'm watching Dirty boxing, you better not look

1213
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 3: away for a second. So anyway, I just want to

1214
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 3: say that, yes, bouts of consequence. But I'm starting to

1215
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 3: with some of these smaller up and coming promotions really

1216
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 3: like and the entertainment value is starting to go through

1217
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 3: the roof with some of these other promotions where I'm

1218
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 3: on the edge of my seat all night. Kenny, I

1219
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 3: want to get your thoughts. I guess on this a

1220
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 3: little bit in terms of like the grappling versus the

1221
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 3: striking kickboxing boxing, right, because I think Jay would actually

1222
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 3: come to you right now and suggest that he enjoys

1223
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 3: the jiu jitsu the grappling more than straight boxing. And

1224
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 3: I guess part of my issue in watching some of

1225
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 3: the grappling Kenny, is that the submissions happen so quickly

1226
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 3: that the commentators don't even necessarily have a chance to

1227
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 3: talk you through it. And then a dude gets leg

1228
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 3: locked and I haven't even seen it.

1229
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 5: Yeah that's true. Yeah, go ahead.

1230
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 3: No, I'm done, Kenny. I want to hear what Kenny

1231
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 3: you Ken, But if Kenny's commentation, he would walk you

1232
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 3: through it. No, I'm not. No, your commentators are great,

1233
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 3: but Kenny correct me if I'm wrong. Like, not only

1234
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 3: do I not know the sophisticated nature of what I'm seeing,

1235
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 3: but I think you know there's all this belly down stuff.

1236
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 3: I mean, dude, like everything's happened. It's not even the

1237
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 3: cameraman have to you know, you almost need more cameras.

1238
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1239
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 5: No, for sure, I think that you know, even when

1240
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 5: I do stuff for flow grappling, I feel like you know,

1241
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 5: the plays always can be much much better in my opinion,

1242
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 5: And I also think that we need to do better

1243
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 5: as commentators as far as, like, you know, setting up

1244
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 5: what's happening or what could happen right, and I think

1245
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 5: the UFC does a really good job of doing that.

1246
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 5: I think in grappling it could be a little bit

1247
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 5: better in some ways as far as talking to the fans,

1248
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 5: like you're trying to educate them a little bit more,

1249
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 5: because that that's the thing I think that most people

1250
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 5: are trying to understand better, is that grappling component, and

1251
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 5: I think that's where we can do a much better

1252
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 5: job as commentators. But yeah, I think boxing has become

1253
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 5: so civilized and guys are really so careful with everything

1254
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 5: that they're throwing, not only because the person they're fighting

1255
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 5: is very dangerous and can counter them in any time.

1256
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 5: There's a lot of state, you know, a lot at stake,

1257
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 5: but I think that the sport in general has become

1258
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 5: way more tame, especially when you compare it to all

1259
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 5: the various weapons that you have mixed martial arts, and

1260
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 5: we go back to the original kind of fight between

1261
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 5: boxing and MMA boxing. They showed their cards when they

1262
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 5: were so combative towards MMA. They were the ones that

1263
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 5: were trying to get it banned. They were trying to

1264
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 5: prevent it from getting approved in different states. Why because

1265
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 5: they knew that they were on life support. Mixed Martial

1266
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 5: Arts is just a much more entertaining sport. The UFC

1267
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 5: is a much more powerful brand as a result, and

1268
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 5: I think there's just very few boxing fights right now

1269
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 5: that can bring in a lot of the intrigue that

1270
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 5: some of the UFC Fight Night main events can bring.

1271
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 3: Very interesting. Jay got anything else on that?

1272
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 4: Oh?

1273
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 3: I got tons, But I got a key set on

1274
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 3: my hands, and be a little quiet here. I know

1275
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 3: you brought me on to talk about dirty boxing, but

1276
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 3: anyone who's watched the Professional Grappling Federation knows that a

1277
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 3: lot of these things they're sort of work like brand mccathin.

1278
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Speaker 3: Nobody does a better job of talking you through educating.

1279
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Speaker 3: He's sitting right next to me, who is under educated,

1280
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 3: trying to educate me. But they've made it more entertaining,

1281
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Speaker 3: And I guess my takeaway in terms Ofella Crawford and

1282
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 3: I very much appreciate the opportunity to sit there and

1283
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 3: watch those two all time greats I guess as I

1284
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 3: think about entertainment and the National Football League still trumps

1285
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 3: all for me. But I cannot wait to sit behind

1286
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 3: John for UFC three twenty in eight days and not

1287
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 3: know what's gonna happen. Yeah, the NFL is insane. It

1288
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 3: is just unbelievable. Every week the finishes that league is

1289
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 3: just crazy. I don't know what they put in the

1290
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 3: water in that NFL, but it really is something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 3: So all right, I have a couple other things I'd

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01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 3: like to get to. So dirty boxing is stepping out

1294
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 3: of the comfort zone that is the Hangar in Miami, Florida,

1295
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 3: DBX four, Nashville, Tennessee, and the Olympic gold medalist Gable Stevenson,

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01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 3: who just made his pro MMA debut or just fought

1297
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 3: in professional MMA whatever it was, now fighting under this

1298
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 3: dirty boxing rule set Jay and if he beats this

1299
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:51,439
Speaker 3: can they got him in there with, you'll be sticking

1300
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 3: a microphone in his face shortly thereafter. So Gable has

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01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 3: been to I believe DBX two and three and definitely

1302
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 3: looks like he was in Joe himself. Right, John Jones

1303
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 3: was in his corner for his first MMA fight, and

1304
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 3: you can be sure Dirty Boxing co owner John Jones

1305
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 3: will probably be cornering him in his dirty Boxing fight

1306
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 3: in Nashville, Tennessee. And John, I love how you broke

1307
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 3: that down leaving the comforts of the hangar in Miami

1308
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 3: because you don't know how excited I am to go

1309
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 3: to Nashville, Tennessee with this up and coming promotion. It's

1310
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 3: just so fun to watch. But for Gable, right, you know,

1311
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 3: certainly he's done what he's done in the wrestling world.

1312
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 3: He had that loss to Wyatt Hendrickson, which I think

1313
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 3: is probably fresh in his mind.

1314
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 7: But I've seen videos of him striking with John Wood.

1315
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 3: I think he's got some skills, certainly an athlete, and

1316
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 3: no secret that he has some UFC aspirations. John Jones

1317
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 3: wants to corner a potential UFC champion, So I think

1318
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 3: this is a wonderful proving ground for him right now

1319
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 3: where he won't have to worry about kicks.

1320
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 7: Knees or grappling.

1321
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 3: Dirty Boxing Championship is a hand striking combat sport in

1322
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 3: an eighteen by eighteen What d ring is that a

1323
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 3: d ring? It's anyway, It's a ring that blend's boxing

1324
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 3: with paul forearms backfists, ridge hands, Kenny, you'll tell us

1325
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 3: what a ridge hand is later and elbows? Uh yeah,

1326
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 3: uh five ounce gloves? Is that accurate? Or they four

1327
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 3: ounce gloves now Jays in the pilot at the end

1328
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 3: of November in twenty twenty four, they were five ounce gloves.

1329
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 3: Flip that to four ounce for DBX one, two and three,

1330
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 3: just like the Ultimate Fighting Championship. Nice, Kenny, what are

1331
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 3: uh what are ridge hands?

1332
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 5: Ridge hand? So a ridge hand is where you hit

1333
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 5: with kind I'm showing the camera so people who are

1334
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 5: not at home, it's like the bony part of the

1335
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 5: like the the blade bladed edge of your hand by

1336
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 5: your thumb, so it's kind of like alone by the

1337
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 5: so you're yeah. So it's like kind of like a

1338
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 5: karate move where it's kind of like the uh, the

1339
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 5: bladed edge of your hand by your thumb where you

1340
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 5: could strike to the temple for examples where I would

1341
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 5: learn it as a kid.

1342
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 7: John quickly, I'll just say about dirty boxing though.

1343
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 3: We talked about on DBX three landing ken yonas one

1344
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 3: name that sticks out right, a really high level mixed

1345
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 3: martial artist that was on that card, and not just

1346
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 3: these guys that are in their late forties, but up

1347
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 3: and comers. Right, Stevenson is an up and comer. A

1348
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 3: lot of people think maybe the hottest prospect potentially in

1349
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 3: all of MMA. So I like dirty boxing sort of

1350
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 3: mixing in some of that. I'm just excited to see

1351
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 3: where it goes, because ultimately, when I started this talking

1352
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 3: about Canelo Crawford, maybe I'm getting older, but the entertainment

1353
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 3: value really matters. And if I think the last dirty

1354
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 3: boxing event, the first seven fights were finishes, that works

1355
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 3: for the eyeballs, I.

1356
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 5: Think it's good. I think it's a great venue for

1357
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 5: him to go out there and get experience as a

1358
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 5: you know, combat sports guy, and you know, this will

1359
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 5: be his second fight. I don't know if it probably

1360
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 5: won't count as an official mixed martial arts fight, right,

1361
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 5: but dealing with the striking and having to enter and

1362
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 5: working his ground pound like already in his first fight

1363
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 5: in LFA, I think it was an LFA his grounded

1364
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 5: pound looked phenomenal. Like this dude, his short elbows and

1365
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 5: his punches from top are nasty, and that was just

1366
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 5: only his first to show that level of grounded pound

1367
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 5: is first, right, is insane. This dude I think is

1368
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 5: going to be special and have John Jones saying that

1369
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 5: he's going to corner him. And if there's one guy

1370
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 5: that he would coach, it would be Gable because he

1371
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 5: believes he's got a world champion.

1372
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 3: And dirty boxing is not boxing nor mixed martial arts

1373
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 3: in terms of the records. Right, but Kenny, to your point, right,

1374
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 3: it is mixed martial arts, even though you can't mix

1375
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 3: all of the martial arts, right, So you are mixing

1376
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 3: martial arts here, which is very good for the budding

1377
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 3: MMA athlete Gable. Steveson, make sure you don't inject an

1378
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 3: n in there. It's just the Steveson. So Jay, before

1379
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 3: I let you go, Yeah, Like, we're gonna mess around

1380
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 3: a little bit if we take this thing off the

1381
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 3: rails a little bit so serious all the time around

1382
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 3: these parts. Go ahead, what do you I'm drinking out

1383
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 3: of my boss, lady mug Like, come on, man, I

1384
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 3: don't give up. What do you want to talk about?

1385
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 3: I mean, I just I have one more thing here.

1386
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 3: So we talked about launching twing Gin Right, Chin's making

1387
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 3: a I'm back, folks. I know alcohol is out these days.

1388
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 3: I'm not afraid to still sit down and have a

1389
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 3: fucking Hendrix. Right, nobody fucking drinking anymore, you know what, No,

1390
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 3: we can't drink anymore, you know anyway, So our good

1391
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Speaker 3: friends at the water Shed Distillery, Nice, you know Ratten,

1392
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Speaker 3: everybody over there Nice in Ohio heard us talking about

1393
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Speaker 3: launching twin gin and they sent me a lot of gin.

1394
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1395
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1396
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1397
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Speaker 3: forty four percent alcohol by volume. That'll tip you over

1398
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Speaker 3: unless you're one of those who have decided that alcohol

1399
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Speaker 3: is gonna kill you, right, and this is just their

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Speaker 3: straight four peel gin. But we thank everybody at the

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1402
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 3: you please take a small sip of one of do you?

1403
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 3: I know you've got a lot going on right now.

1404
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 3: I'm just in terms of the I mean, should I

1405
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 3: see how many kids I'm driving later today?

1406
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 7: I had to say that one thing.

1407
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 3: No, strawberry, I'm not Yeah. Think we're taping the rebund

1408
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 3: I don't know we're taping the Anak and Florian rewand

1409
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 3: later today.

1410
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 7: But right, that's what I was referring to.

1411
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 3: You know what I will say. I will say that

1412
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 3: when I was doing sports updates for Sporting News Radio

1413
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 3: Boston fifteen ten the Zone on the marathon trail on

1414
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 3: Marathon Monday, however, twenty years ago. Right, So I'm doing

1415
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 3: updates and they're like, dude, just have a pint, you know,

1416
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 3: so bang a pint on an empty stomach. I'm like, hey,

1417
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,799
Speaker 3: it's John Annack. Here's a sports update. I'm like slurring

1418
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,759
Speaker 3: all over the Boston all right, thanks to the folks

1419
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 3: at Watershed Distillery. I'm gonna try the strawberry flavored gin.

1420
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 3: It is twelve thirteen pm Eastern Standard time. My son's

1421
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 3: got like feeding therapy today. What are we doing?

1422
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 7: That's what I'm here for, to provide a good influence for.

1423
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 5: Oh man, is that good?

1424
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 3: Good? It's fucking crap? Uh jay anything? Oh yeah?

1425
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 4: No?

1426
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 7: I do one more thing, one more thing. Yeah.

1427
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 3: I just can't believe you didn't ask Kenny about Kenny

1428
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 3: in Spain? Can you only imagine him flowing with his

1429
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:21,759
Speaker 3: espanol in Spain?

1430
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 5: I can you only about it?

1431
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 3: Can Clark send us some videos flow of you just

1432
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 3: using your perfect accent, because I bet my life you

1433
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 3: were speaking Spanish all day?

1434
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 5: Am I wrong? I did? I did? I got a

1435
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 5: practice that was fun. Yeah, I got like I had

1436
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 5: a little argument with one of the taxi drivers. I was, yeah,

1437
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 5: the Spanish came and came in handy in that regard

1438
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:47,839
Speaker 5: and then he backed.

1439
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 3: Down appropriately Spanish inquisition attack the driver. The only thing

1440
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 3: I'm leaving on the cutting room floor today because we

1441
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:02,679
Speaker 3: do have to transition to Perth. So TKO Group Holdings

1442
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 3: President COO Mark Shapiro sort of talked about the appetite

1443
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 3: for cities to have a UFC live event, and Kenny

1444
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 3: and I have chronicled Salt Lake City, Utah, essentially more

1445
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 3: so than other places because they bought pay per views

1446
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, and twenty twenty four,

1447
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 3: and some amazing things happened in the Delta Center, including

1448
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 3: Leon Edwards's head kick.

1449
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 4: Right.

1450
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 3: But there are some really interesting quotes here from Mark.

1451
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 3: One of them is, you know, UFC has breaking records

1452
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 3: everywhere they go. The Last Numbered Event Chicago was the

1453
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 3: highest grossing event in the history of the United Center,

1454
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 3: dating back through the Michael Jordan days highest grossing event.

1455
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 3: They're already at the table trying to get another fight

1456
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 3: for next year. We're just a couple of weeks post event. Now,

1457
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 3: we hadn't been to Chicago in a long time. Then

1458
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 3: he goes on to say, we still have thirty fight

1459
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:52,759
Speaker 3: nights to sell for UFC, and they can be smaller.

1460
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 3: But if we've got a Saint Louis up against a

1461
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 3: des Moines, Iowa, if you want us back there, and

1462
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 3: if you've sold out arenas and broken records in both

1463
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 3: of your arenas, you have to pay for us to

1464
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 3: come back, or else we'll take it to another town.

1465
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 3: And I don't think he's trying to, you know, sound

1466
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 3: particularly harsh, but this is the reality of the situation. Now,

1467
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 3: this news comes around the same time in which this

1468
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 3: Perth fight night doesn't seem to be selling well, you know,

1469
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 3: And anyone who suggests that I'm a shill, By the way,

1470
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 3: why the fuck would I bring this conversation to the

1471
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 3: airwaves on the Endic and Floring podcast, Because I think

1472
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 3: it's interesting. Right. Perth is a hotbed for mixed martial arts,

1473
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 3: even though it takes you three days to get there

1474
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 3: from almost anywhere in the world. But I do think

1475
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 3: some of the Aussies have spoken in terms of them

1476
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 3: having more of an appetite to go to Singapore than

1477
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 3: to go across the country to Perth in terms of travel,

1478
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 3: and maybe it does speak to the fact that maybe

1479
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 3: the card needs a little bit more juice in terms

1480
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 3: of maybe some star power. You know, as much as

1481
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 3: we love Jimmy Cruton, Carlos Alberg, maybe you know the

1482
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 3: show isn't delivering. So that was what I wanted to

1483
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 3: get your thoughts on collectively, Kenny and Jay on the

1484
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 3: way out, Jay, do you have anything for us on

1485
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 3: that As a guy who's been to a lot of

1486
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 3: these shows over the last five years. No, So I

1487
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 3: think my only takeaway would be it's unbelievable when you

1488
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 3: are not going to Perth, John, how differently you speak

1489
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Speaker 3: of it, because you do got a lot of love

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Speaker 3: for that place once you're there. But I love it.

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Speaker 3: But you know, what I will say is right you

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Speaker 3: sometimes see with the Canadian cards, how you know all

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Speaker 3: the Canadian fighters.

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Speaker 7: But interestingly enough, and I'm not trying to but.

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Speaker 3: If you look ahead at that Vancouver card, all these

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Speaker 3: matchups for Jazzdavisius, for Malot and for Za Hobby are

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Speaker 3: all really high level matchups, right, So I think if

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Speaker 3: you have the locals with maybe more interesting matchups, maybe

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01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 3: they can move the needle. I think that's where they

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01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 3: may be struggling there in Pert Kenny, I know you'd

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01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 3: love to see the UFC back in Charlotte, North Carolina, right.

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01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 3: It was cool to be there a couple of years ago.

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01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 3: But these live events, you know, command a pretty hefty

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01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:40,639
Speaker 3: price right now in the US.

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Speaker 5: They definitely do. And I think for the UFC, I think,

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01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 5: you know, they got to figure out which guys are

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01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 5: they going to put on these fight nights, which guys

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01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 5: are they going to reserve for the pay per views,

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Speaker 5: And I think that you know, sometimes they hit it

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Speaker 5: and sometimes they don't. I think this card, you know,

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01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,600
Speaker 5: it's a little lack luster in my opinion, but you know,

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Speaker 5: it's tough. How many guys are going to be Israel

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Speaker 5: out of Sonya or a Volkanovski that they get great

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01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 5: that you know that they're not. There's not a whole

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Speaker 5: lot out there. Those are rare. So yeah, hopefully it does.

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Speaker 3: Sell though, and there's still a lot of matchmaking that

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01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 3: needs to be done this year. The Guitar show, right,

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01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,560
Speaker 3: even UFC three twenty one I think is going to

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01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 3: gain a fighter too. So there are a lot of

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01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 3: different things. The December pay per view we still don't know.

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01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 3: But yes, I will say on the way out right,

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01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 3: my connection with the Australian fight fans is unbelievable in

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01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 3: Perth and every other city. I guess for me, the

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01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 3: anxiety that I get when I get an itinerary from

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01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:36,719
Speaker 3: the East coast of the US, from the East coast

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01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 3: of the US to Perth, Western Australia, the anxiety is

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01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 3: such that, yeah, I do a little dance when they

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01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 3: don't call my number. It is what it is, Jay and.

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01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 5: A little more than nine hours John, huh.

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01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 7: No, I guess.

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01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,600
Speaker 3: Finally, I'll just say, as a betting man, I'd be

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01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 3: more surprised than not if I would expect Ronda Rousey

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01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 3: to compete in twenty twenty six, I'd be surprised if

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01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:56,640
Speaker 3: she doesn't. At this all right, well, good luck on

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Speaker 3: DBX four Nashville, Tennessee. What's the date on that.

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01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 7: October thirtieth Halloween Eve?

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01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,919
Speaker 3: You know, handball coming. Maybe I'll come surprise you maybe notes.

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01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 3: I'm probably more likely to go to Nashville than break

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01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 3: bread with long Ago tomorrow. So you ha ha, thanks.

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Speaker 5: Janks, flow piece, see it Jay, Good to see you,

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01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 5: all right.

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Speaker 3: Pronunciation of the Week. He is brought to you by

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Speaker 3: a couple of files here today for Ken Flow, fresh

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Speaker 3: off the Spanish practice in Spain. First fighter to be

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Speaker 3: featured today on the Pronunciation of the Week, brought to

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Speaker 3: you by Total Wireless, is a rising light heavyweight prospect.

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Speaker 3: Fights out of City Kickboxing and New Zealand. Seven to

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Speaker 3: UFC and uh yeah, he actually had a win his

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Speaker 3: last time out of UFC three fifteen against the other

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Speaker 3: guy we're going to feature in this segment today, Ken Flow.

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Speaker 3: So his name is on the screen, last name Sterling.

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01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 3: Seems like a pretty easy one, can flow? How do

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01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 3: you pronounce it?

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01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, this dude is Jack. I would say, I know

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01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 5: how if I saw this name, I would say.

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01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 3: Nob Sterling, Right, So it's either nov or nav I

1560
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,719
Speaker 3: don't know. That's why we bring it to the table today,

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01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,799
Speaker 3: and that's why I listened to the file before I

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01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 3: voice his fights. Cody hit it.

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Speaker 4: Never host Sterling, never host Sterling.

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Speaker 3: So if memory serves, I voiced it as nav and

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01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 3: then was revoicing it as Navajo. Just an interesting thing,

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Speaker 3: and it just you sort of into our world in

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01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,799
Speaker 3: terms of the little things that uh, you know, because

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01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 3: like his friends call him nav they don't call him nav,

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01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? So like you want to

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Speaker 3: do it right by these guys. You know it's nitpicky,

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01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:39,879
Speaker 3: But I wonder if Navajo would think it was nitpicky.

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Speaker 3: Al right, next pronunciation file is a Croatian he reps

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Speaker 3: American top team Zagzeb but he's off to an zero

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Speaker 3: and two UFC start this weekend and hearth he takes

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Speaker 3: on Jimmy Cruth, the Bendigo bomber in the co main event.

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Speaker 3: Can flow name is populated for you? Go ahead?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so it would be uh Evonersline, Oh yeavon Erthline.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely murdered it. But let's just check the file in case.

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Speaker 5: Even erslan er even Erslan nice.

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Speaker 3: All right, very excited to call this gentleman's number today.

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Speaker 3: It's been a long time yet put them right in

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01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 3: the goddamn center of the screen. Curtis Hoagland on Instagram.

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01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I think there are better handles out there

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01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 3: for him, but it is at K dot hogue dot W.

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01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 3: I mean, Curtis, it's great to see you, buddy. What's

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01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 3: up with the handle on ig I?

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Speaker 8: Creativity, I guess is not my strong suit, Johnny, maybe

1625
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Speaker 8: you could help me out.

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Speaker 4: Brother.

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01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 3: Well no, so I just think like if I enjoy

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01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 3: your handicapping today and I'm searching for Curtis Hoagland, maybe

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01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,600
Speaker 3: you'll come up. But K dot hogue dot W I

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01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 3: mean WS four.

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Speaker 6: It's my middle name, and that would be Wade.

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Speaker 8: Wait, okay, yeah, I've got another Instagram though, it is

1633
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 8: mad Max Meridian that's like video games and stuff like that,

1634
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 8: a little less active.

1635
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 5: But she's out there.

1636
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 6: She's out there.

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01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:48,560
Speaker 3: Well, it's great to have you back, as you know,

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01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 3: we really enjoyed having you on and uh you are

1639
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 3: always our ace in the hole and we're excited to

1640
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:58,560
Speaker 3: pick this six fight main card with you today. So

1641
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 3: you're doing a lot of MMA content aside from these

1642
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:03,799
Speaker 3: cameos on the Nicomported podcast is that accurate?

1643
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 8: Yes, sir, trying to After you guys' first appearance, I

1644
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,719
Speaker 8: started trying to crank out some videos on YouTube. Actually

1645
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 8: Andrew Morin that was also on. Yeah, me and him

1646
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 8: will bounce bets off each other, and we're talking about

1647
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 8: doing a pay per view breakdown here coming up. But yeah,

1648
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 8: I put out my own on the YouTube channel, and

1649
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 8: of course every fight card, I'm talking smack on Twitter

1650
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 8: to people and putting out some picks on there as well.

1651
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 6: So yeah, got a little bit more coming.

1652
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 3: All right, Well, we're excited to rifle through this main card.

1653
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 3: We'll see if either of you guys agree with our

1654
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 3: producer Cody Marrow later that there is value on Dominic

1655
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:39,600
Speaker 3: Ray said plus two hundred or anything higher. But in

1656
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 3: the nature of picking this entire six fight main card

1657
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 3: fellows the openers at lightweight Tom Nolan minus one forty

1658
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 3: eight Charlie Campbell plus one twenty four. So Campbell's now

1659
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 3: training out of syndicate. We mentioned that earlier with Ray Longo,

1660
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,679
Speaker 3: who really has no connection with him anymore. First appearance

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01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 3: though for Campbell since the win over Trevor Peak May

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Speaker 3: of twenty twenty four Withdrew from a scheduled matchup with

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Speaker 3: Mauricio Hoofy last November. Curtis pretty close on paper here

1664
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Speaker 3: at fifty five. Who do you like?

1665
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree about them being close, not even just

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01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 8: on paper, but kind of some of the tools that

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01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 8: they like to go to, some of the stuff in

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01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 8: their back pocket.

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Speaker 6: But I'm pretty high on Tom Nolan.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 8: He's a big kid, long Tom Nolan six foot three

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01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 8: seventy three inch reach. He's got the three wins in

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Speaker 8: a row, and obviously the most recent one being the

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Speaker 8: decision over all Slava Clause black belt and bjj's got

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01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 8: the muy Thai. I think he's like a black rank

1676
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 8: in that, which I guess is the same thing as

1677
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Speaker 8: a black belt. Good work with the legs. He largely

1678
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 8: relies on his rear, like his power leg, but he's

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01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 8: good at ripping him low, kind of mixing it up

1680
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 8: going to the body and then he'll switch upstairs and

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01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 8: catch you. The wrestling kinda sometimes throws me off. He's

1682
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 8: I mean, he's a tall dude, and he's trying to

1683
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 8: drop all the way to the hips on some of

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01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 8: these guys, which is you're bringing a lot of real

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01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 8: estate a long way I'd almost like to see him

1686
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 8: work on like some I don't know Judo or get

1687
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 8: ahold of Steven Sagaal. This guy knows everything, learns some

1688
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 8: akido or something. So yeah, I mean his ground game's good.

1689
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 8: There's times, of course, where you start chasing the submissions

1690
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 8: and it's like, hey, man, establish a little bit more

1691
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 8: of a like positional dominance here instead of going so crazy.

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Speaker 6: But I mean, who am I to judge? The guy's good.

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01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 8: I think the ceiling is very high on him, and

1694
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 8: we're seeing him start to come into his own. Charlie

1695
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 8: Campbell a little less active the decision went over Trevor Peak.

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01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 8: It's okay, it's not great. I would have liked to

1697
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 8: maybe have seen a finish there. He's orthodox switch his

1698
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 8: stance a little bit. He was a little flinchy and

1699
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 8: kind of reactive early against Peak before settling into his own.

1700
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:34,679
Speaker 8: So I almost wonder if Nolan's gonna capitalize on that. Yeah,

1701
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 8: So long story short, I'm gonna go with Nolan. He

1702
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 8: actually reminds me a little bit of Carlos Condit, the

1703
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 8: old natural born killer, and kind of some of the

1704
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 8: way he moves and like his kicks and stuff, but yeah,

1705
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go with Nolan.

1706
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go. Well, I'm not gonna throw out my

1707
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 6: bets yet. I guess I'm putting the cart before the horse. Here,

1708
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 6: go with Nolan.

1709
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 3: Brisbane's Tom. Nolan's still only twenty five years old as

1710
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 3: well Ken Floy, He's married to the Game Compton Training,

1711
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 3: ceter He gets a lot of individual attention and he

1712
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 3: really is rap lead from that Nicholas Motor result in

1713
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 3: his UFC debut. What do you make of Nolan here

1714
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 3: against the no longer Long Island base Charlie Campbell had no.

1715
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 5: Idea that Nolan was from Compton, California. It's not crazy. Wow,

1716
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 5: that's amazing, all right, Well, yeah, listen, I think Nolan

1717
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:19,560
Speaker 5: is is very good dude. I think that, you know,

1718
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 5: his tall, lanky stature makes him a difficult out for anybody,

1719
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 5: and he's got really good skills all the way around.

1720
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 5: I think Charlie Campbell is very good on the feet

1721
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 5: as well. I think, you know, he's got some wrestling background,

1722
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:35,679
Speaker 5: and not high level, but he does have some wrestling.

1723
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 5: I'd be curious to see if he does utilize this

1724
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 5: to try to put Nolan on his back. I don't

1725
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 5: think he will. Campbell likes to pride himself on using

1726
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 5: his wrestling more defensively, try to keep things on the feet.

1727
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,600
Speaker 5: He loves to you know, strike in trade, and I

1728
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 5: think Campbell is going to be dangerous there. Nolan has

1729
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 5: to be careful, He's got to keep that chin tucked.

1730
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 5: But I think Nolan has more overall skill. I think

1731
01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 5: if there's a guy who's you know, gonna get a

1732
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 5: finish both on the feeder on the ground, I think

1733
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 5: it would be Nolan. So I like that aspect. I

1734
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 5: like options. When I'm looking at two guys going at

1735
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 5: each other, I think Nolan has more. I think he's

1736
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 5: got a little bit more potential as well. I think

1737
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 5: this is an interesting bet for people that are looking

1738
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 5: for value. Not a huge disparity on the odds either way.

1739
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 5: I like Nolan here.

1740
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, huge fight in terms of the respective futures of

1741
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:24,719
Speaker 3: both men, and I do know a lot of people

1742
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 3: are high on Brisbane's Tom Nolan. I do like the

1743
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 3: long Go deflection though for Charlie Campbell, I think that

1744
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 3: could pay dividends. No longer having Ray Longo in your ear.

1745
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 3: Just just kidding, all right. At heavyweight justin bad man.

1746
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 3: Tafa probably doesn't like his UFC ledger on paper right now,

1747
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 3: he's the minus one eighteen favorite here on Draftings sports Book,

1748
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 3: taking on the newcomer Louis Sutherland, who seems to be

1749
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 3: a character. Sutherland minus one oh two or so right now.

1750
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 3: So Tafa. Curtis was knocked out by Talis and tshad

1751
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 3: and his only appearance of the year that was UFC

1752
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 3: three twelve. He didn't seem all that present during fight week.

1753
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:00,719
Speaker 3: I was there for his open workout which was essentially

1754
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 3: non existent, almost like listless. He's four and five with

1755
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 3: a no contest and signing with the UFC in twenty nineteen.

1756
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 3: There has been some bad luck. But on the other side,

1757
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 3: summer intrigued by the UH the London resident Sutherland traveling

1758
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 3: far here to make his UFC debut. It is his

1759
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 3: fourth MMA appearance of twenty twenty five, so he has

1760
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:21,679
Speaker 3: been active. What do you make of the heavyweights here, Curtis.

1761
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 6: I'm a little torn on this one.

1762
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 8: The big question mark here with Sutherland is like, how

1763
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 8: is he going to come in and perform I guess

1764
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 8: in the big show? What is up with the UK

1765
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 8: also producing just fridges like you got Mick Park and

1766
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 8: you got Louis Sutherland, you got Tom aspinall like something

1767
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 8: something's going on over there. But kind of the list

1768
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 8: list listens that you just touched on with old Justin

1769
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 8: Tafa is kind of the reason I actually am going

1770
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 8: to lean towards Sutherland here. I think Sutherland gets a

1771
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 8: little complacent and he likes to stand out there and

1772
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:53,560
Speaker 8: actually like trade kind of shots and like and like

1773
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:57,759
Speaker 8: pick his selection and actually display like good striking technique,

1774
01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:59,560
Speaker 8: whereas just Justin Toff is a little bit more of

1775
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:01,640
Speaker 8: like a aar and stuff. And I think maybe that

1776
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 8: complacency could potentially get Sutherland caught, especially considering the power

1777
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 8: of Tafa. The dude it just hits like a tank.

1778
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 8: But I think actually overall more tools. He's got a

1779
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 8: little bit of like the Chris Farley syndrome going on,

1780
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 8: where he's like surprisingly nimble for as big as he

1781
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 8: is as well Old Sutherland, So assuming the big show

1782
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 8: doesn't get to him, he stays composed, I think he

1783
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:28,839
Speaker 8: has more tools, got a nasty lead hook, the straits

1784
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 8: pretty nasty. I'd like to see him work some grappling here,

1785
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 8: obviously against the guy's dangerous as Tafa. But I'll go

1786
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 8: Sutherland here. Yeah, I'll take him. I keep flip flopping

1787
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 8: on this one.

1788
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 3: Kenny over under forty one and a half men that

1789
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 3: Justin Tafa has knocked out in the streets of Australia.

1790
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 5: Chris say over, I'd say over.

1791
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1792
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 3: As far as Sutherland is concerned, Kenny not a ton

1793
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 3: of film out there. Has been competed for the Levels

1794
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 3: Fight League in the Netherlands. I was reading his bio.

1795
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 3: It said hobbies include picking fights at student bars. I mean,

1796
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 3: can you imagine Louis Sutherland going to like college bars

1797
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:04,560
Speaker 3: in England and just dropping dudes.

1798
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 5: Beating up smart kids and have it square.

1799
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1800
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 5: You know, I had a chance to watch Sutherland fight

1801
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 5: a couple of times in the PFL. He's a rugby player.

1802
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 5: He's an excellent athlete. I believe he represented Scotland maybe

1803
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 5: at the junior level for rugby. So the dude can

1804
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 5: move and yeah, he's a big guy with some good athleticism.

1805
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 5: And my main concern for Louis would be getting into

1806
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:33,719
Speaker 5: that brawling type of fight with someone like Justin Tafa.

1807
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:35,679
Speaker 5: That would not suit him well. Now, he could probably

1808
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 5: knock out Tafa in that regard. But when you're doing that,

1809
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 5: you're always throwing dice and he's got to act like

1810
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 5: the more technical guy with more tools. I think he

1811
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 5: is that. Can't he stay disciplined in his UFC debut?

1812
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 5: That is the question. I do believe he can. You know,

1813
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 5: Tafa obviously doesn't have a whole lot of momentum heading

1814
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 5: into this. He's his record doesn't look so great. As

1815
01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:00,679
Speaker 5: you mentioned, Dan, I think you got to question where

1816
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 5: is his hunger at? You know, I don't know. I

1817
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 5: think Louis is going to be hungry. I think he

1818
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 5: realizes what kind of opportunity he has here. He seems

1819
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 5: like a real passionate dude with a love for MMA,

1820
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 5: and because of that, I'm gonna go with Louis Sutherland

1821
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 5: as well.

1822
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 3: Got a nice doing a show live on a Friday

1823
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 3: with these fights right around the corner. Next up at welterweight,

1824
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 3: Jake Matthews, the minus three to eighty betting favorite taking

1825
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 3: on Neil Magne, who comes back plus three hundred. Ken

1826
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 3: Flow will lead with you on this one. How about

1827
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 3: the Celtic kid just still getting it done. Three fight

1828
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 3: win streak into his twenty third UFC appearance submitted Cheety

1829
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 3: and Jakwani's last time out that was in July, and

1830
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 3: now going for his sixteenth UFC win against the also

1831
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 3: credentialed out Neil Magne. What do you make of the

1832
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:45,719
Speaker 3: one seventy pounders ken flow.

1833
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:48,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty crazy man. I think we called his Jake Matthews'

1834
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 5: debut right at nineteen or twenty years old, way back

1835
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 5: in the day and showed potential back then, and I

1836
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 5: think he's turned into a very good fighter. I think

1837
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 5: that you know, has a lot of moment them heading

1838
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:02,680
Speaker 5: into this fight. Neil Magni, of course a little bit

1839
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 5: more inconsistent with his performances. But we all know that

1840
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 5: if Neil Magni is on point with his game, he

1841
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:11,599
Speaker 5: can really beat a lot of guys in this division.

1842
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 5: So Matthews has to show that respect, has to find

1843
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 5: a way to neutralize that job and also have to

1844
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:19,640
Speaker 5: find a way to try to land calf kicks. I

1845
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 5: think that's where Magni tends to struggle a lot. If

1846
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 5: you can get rid of that lead wheel a little bit,

1847
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 5: slow him down, get him hesitant to utilize that long job,

1848
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 5: that's where Matthews can kind of, you know, start to

1849
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 5: pick him apart, get on the inside, work the body,

1850
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 5: go upstairs. I think he's going to be the faster guy.

1851
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:39,800
Speaker 5: I think that Jake Matthews is going to be the

1852
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 5: better athlete overall. But he has to really keep in

1853
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 5: mind that Magni has a lot of experience and he

1854
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:49,680
Speaker 5: can't get too comfortable out there. So I think Jake

1855
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 5: Matthews should win this fight. I think he doesn't want

1856
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 5: to spend too much energy trying to take down someone

1857
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:59,200
Speaker 5: like Neil Magni. He's got to be efficient. If he

1858
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 5: is efficient, he can win this fight. If he's not,

1859
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 5: Magni can make it a long night for him. But

1860
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 5: give me Jake Matthews here.

1861
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 3: So Magni coming off that wins just last month by

1862
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 3: TKO over Elaziozeleski Dos Santos. That elevated his UFC wins

1863
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 3: total to twenty three, and he is in a tie

1864
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 3: for seconds all time alongside Andre Arlovsky, Donald Cerni, Charles

1865
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 3: Olivera and Max Holloway. They're all chasing Jim Miller, who's

1866
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 3: the all time leader with twenty seven, but Magni going

1867
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:29,719
Speaker 3: for twenty four. Curtis this weekend. Your thoughts.

1868
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 8: I mean, Kenny killed it per usual. I agree with

1869
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 8: like ninety percent of what he said. It's kind of

1870
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 8: funny these dudes. Both of them have quite a bit

1871
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 8: of experience. They made their debuts. I think it's like

1872
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 8: a year apart twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, but they seem

1873
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 8: to kind of be going in like opposite directions here.

1874
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:47,400
Speaker 8: It's like Jake Matthews is really starting to put it

1875
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 8: together and kind of come into his own whereas Neil

1876
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 8: Magni we're celebrating the one offs when he can put

1877
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 8: it together and disrupt somebody's kind of trained, so to speak.

1878
01:31:57,200 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 6: So all the balls are in Jake matthew court here.

1879
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 8: It's this is going to be a telling fight for also,

1880
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:04,759
Speaker 8: I think kind of the the trajectory of his career

1881
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:08,080
Speaker 8: if he goes out here and craps the bed. I'm

1882
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 8: not super high on on where he's gonna end up,

1883
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:12,760
Speaker 8: you know, as far as like a championship down the

1884
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:14,680
Speaker 8: road or something. But I think he has all the

1885
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 8: tools to get it done. I think he's physically better

1886
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 8: and in just about every way, he's faster. I think

1887
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 8: he has more power, He's got a good right hand,

1888
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 8: which Magnie's been caught with several times before. The low

1889
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 8: kick was something I was going to touch on as

1890
01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 8: well that Kenny mentioned.

1891
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 6: He gets.

1892
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 8: Jake gets in a little bit of these instances where

1893
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:35,800
Speaker 8: he's doing like a single, like a lunging, almost like

1894
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 8: a fencer, when he opens up and actually starts throwing

1895
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 8: some combos.

1896
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:40,640
Speaker 6: He lands though.

1897
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:42,559
Speaker 8: He looks pretty good, and I think in this fight

1898
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 8: that's what he needs to do, so he needs to

1899
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 8: play it safe. I will probably be live betting this

1900
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:49,599
Speaker 8: one as the fight goes on. This is one where

1901
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:51,800
Speaker 8: Magnie you might want to keep an eye on him.

1902
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:54,599
Speaker 8: He's good at turning things around and building some momentum.

1903
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:57,599
Speaker 8: But Jake Matthews should win this. This is his fight

1904
01:32:57,680 --> 01:32:58,519
Speaker 8: to win hopefully.

1905
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:01,280
Speaker 3: Yep, it's part of it, to be sure. I think

1906
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 3: it could play in potentially to some of these other

1907
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:05,639
Speaker 3: matchups as well. Tom Nolan not having to travel nearly

1908
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 3: as far as Charlie Campbell did all right featured boutis

1909
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 3: featherweight Man for Jack Jenkins Monus two eighty five. Ramote

1910
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 3: Tavari's recent guests on the Anakan Floorid podcast plus two

1911
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 3: thirty so Jenkins was submitted by Gabriel Santos at UFC

1912
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 3: three twelve earlier this year. That means Curtis he's lost

1913
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 3: two of his last three. A lot of people like

1914
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 3: this matchup for him against Duval Counties, Ramote Tavaris Curtis.

1915
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 3: Which way you going here?

1916
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know that I agree with the odds

1917
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 8: on this one. I think Jack Jenkins should be the favorite.

1918
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 8: The odds as they currently stand are a little goofy

1919
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 8: to me. Jack Jenkins good fighter, puts it together pretty well.

1920
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 8: Like if you were playing as him as a character

1921
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 8: on like the video game, he'd probably have seventy five

1922
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 8: or seventy in all of his stats. Like, he's pretty

1923
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 8: well rounded, little flat footed, orthodox, not a ton of

1924
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 8: movement in there, but I think that also is what

1925
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 8: lends to his thudding power. He's not like crazy world

1926
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 8: breaking power, but when he hits you can hear the

1927
01:33:57,400 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 8: thuds everything. You're like, Okay, this guy's got some crack

1928
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 8: decent mixing it up, doing a low kicks, switching to

1929
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 8: the high as well. Good hard kick to the body

1930
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 8: seems to be relatively hard to finish in the sub

1931
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 8: Santos originally had that triangle set up, which he actually

1932
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 8: survived and then he got him later, but I think

1933
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 8: that was because he was hurt. The body language with

1934
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:21,799
Speaker 8: him throws me off. He against Burns it looked awesome

1935
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 8: stalking him down, and then Burns still managed to kind

1936
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:26,400
Speaker 8: of get a random takedown and somewhat come back into

1937
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 8: the fight, whereas against Santos, once the momentum started going

1938
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 8: that way, he halfway looked broken there. So I mean,

1939
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:35,639
Speaker 8: I'm not trying to dump on the guy or anything.

1940
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 8: I just think he's one of those that maybe prefers

1941
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 8: to be the hammer over the nail and doesn't seem

1942
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 8: to do so well as the nail. Ramon Tabarus counter

1943
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 8: striker likes the pool counter. South Paul fights a little

1944
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 8: bit of a longer stance than Jack Jenkins does, so

1945
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 8: if he stays on the outside, I could see him

1946
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 8: potentially landing. Maybe do a pool counter and crack him.

1947
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:54,600
Speaker 8: This is another one that I think it's made for

1948
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 8: Jack Jenkins to win, so so long as he doesn't

1949
01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 8: blow it, we're good. But I would almost entertain a

1950
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 8: hedge here, take like a Tavaras inside the distance, given

1951
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 8: that power and the way those odds are, But this

1952
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 8: is a Jack Jenkins fight, I'll take him.

1953
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. That is interesting and a really thoughtful breakdown of

1954
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 3: Vermont Taveras. I do think that if he wins the fight,

1955
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:13,879
Speaker 3: he's probably gonna have to do so by knockout. Jenkins

1956
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:16,080
Speaker 3: is a bit of a cult hero in Australia, Kenny.

1957
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:17,680
Speaker 3: But if you lose here, you're three and three in

1958
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 3: the UFC. You got to keep winning to sort of

1959
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 3: maintain that status. What do you make of this one

1960
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 3: of forty five?

1961
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:24,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's where he needs to really control his

1962
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 5: emotions because he is fighting in his home country and

1963
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:29,959
Speaker 5: has to be careful to not like get overly excited

1964
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 5: or overly aggressively gets a good counterpuncher like Tavares. So yeah,

1965
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 5: and he's had a little bit of bad luck.

1966
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 4: You know.

1967
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:39,640
Speaker 5: It's like he'll look good at in certain spots and

1968
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 5: then kind of, you know, get taken down or make

1969
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 5: a mistake or fall on a damned shoulder on you know,

1970
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 5: it's like there's a lot of weird things that can happen.

1971
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 5: But you know, athletically, he's impressive to watch when he's

1972
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:54,800
Speaker 5: putting together those like four or five punch or strike combinations.

1973
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 5: He looks really really good, So I agree here. I

1974
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 5: think that Jack should win this fight, but the odds

1975
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 5: scare me a little bit. I'm not sure, you know,

1976
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:08,919
Speaker 5: I would touch this one just because I think Tamaris

1977
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:12,519
Speaker 5: could surprise us here and sometimes when he gets some

1978
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:14,519
Speaker 5: momentum going, he could be a tough guy to stop.

1979
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:19,760
Speaker 5: Two and Jenkins sometimes makes some interesting decisions during the fight,

1980
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:22,640
Speaker 5: so that that makes me a little nervous, all right.

1981
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 3: Co main event in the light heavyweight division the Bendigo

1982
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 3: bomber Jimmy krup minus one to eighty five taken on

1983
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:30,639
Speaker 3: Von Ersulin, who is plus one fifty four. So Krewt

1984
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 3: is a good friend of mine. He went five years

1985
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 3: between UFC wins from twenty twenty to twenty twenty five, right,

1986
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 3: isn't that crazy? So there were a couple draws in there,

1987
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:42,519
Speaker 3: but five years between wins. Last time out he submits

1988
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:45,280
Speaker 3: Marching Prakneo at UFC three to eighteen. I'd be crying

1989
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 3: my eyes out with joy. And then they turn him

1990
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:51,719
Speaker 3: around here pretty quickly. Big Comine event spot Australian soil.

1991
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:54,799
Speaker 3: Pretty good matchup, Curtis, how do you see the Comaine

1992
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 3: event going down right now. Crud about a two to

1993
01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:57,879
Speaker 3: one favorite over Erslin.

1994
01:36:58,760 --> 01:36:59,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, the old the.

1995
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 8: Brute, Jimmy Crute. I kind of again, the odds I

1996
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 8: think are a little lopsided. I'd almost go like a

1997
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 8: minus one fifty in favor of Jimmy Krut. Somewhere in

1998
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 8: that ballpark. That arm bar Win over Pracnat was pretty nice.

1999
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 8: Looked nasty too once he actually got it locked in

2000
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 8: there and started really extending it. Jimmy Krup's a bit

2001
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 8: of a bruiser, kind of an upright orthodox stance, keeps

2002
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 8: that right hand cocked right there by the jaw ready

2003
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 8: to you know, blast you with it.

2004
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 6: Clearly favors the wrestling.

2005
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:25,320
Speaker 8: Likes to get in on the hips, and I think

2006
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 8: that's probably gonna be a good option in this fight,

2007
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 8: given oh Evon Erslan has a little bit more of

2008
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:33,719
Speaker 8: an upright kind of narrow stance as well. So Jimmy

2009
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:35,479
Speaker 8: Creu's gonna be able to get in and potentially get

2010
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 8: the takedown. Now, will he keep it there?

2011
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 6: I'm not sure.

2012
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 8: I think people are a little bit overlooking Erzlin's ability

2013
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 8: to get back up to his feet. He did so

2014
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:46,560
Speaker 8: against Stirling and Cutes Lava a few times, but I

2015
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:48,680
Speaker 8: don't know that either of those guys have the submission

2016
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 8: ability that Jimmy Krute has. So it's a tough one

2017
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:56,200
Speaker 8: for me. Man, Jimmy Crut again should win this. This

2018
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 8: is kind of home field advantage. This is a good

2019
01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 8: toss up for him. But he doesn't have a great

2020
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:03,760
Speaker 8: poker face. And I think if Evon cracks him and

2021
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 8: and senses you know, smells blood in the water, so

2022
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:08,559
Speaker 8: to speak, and swarms him, I think he could potentially

2023
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 8: get it done.

2024
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:11,960
Speaker 6: So for the odds and everything, Yeah, I think I'm

2025
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 6: gonna go Evon. Let's just do it.

2026
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 4: Well.

2027
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:16,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kenny was looking for Evon Arslan merchandise before the

2028
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:18,599
Speaker 3: show today. He ran out the time. Doesn't mean he's

2029
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 3: gonna pick him in the fight, Kenny cruit or Ersulain

2030
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:21,640
Speaker 3: for you?

2031
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 5: Oh man, you know this is interesting. It's always interesting

2032
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 5: anytime Jimmy Krue fights, just because he's so damn exciting,

2033
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:33,799
Speaker 5: sometimes to his own detriment. But I mean, on all accounts,

2034
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 5: he's a better fighter than Ursulan. He's a better athlete,

2035
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 5: he strikes better, in my opinion, he wrestles better. He's

2036
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:42,639
Speaker 5: the better grappler. But sometimes Jimmy kru gets a little

2037
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:46,720
Speaker 5: too crazy out there and you know, maybe expends way

2038
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 5: too much energy early in round one, or you know,

2039
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 5: you know, gets a little bit too chaotic and you know,

2040
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:54,640
Speaker 5: pays forward in the end.

2041
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:55,680
Speaker 4: So but.

2042
01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 5: Again, I like Jimmy Kruch here. I do think he

2043
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:03,880
Speaker 5: he's the better fighter. I think Ersulon, you know, lost

2044
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 5: a couple fights, already needs this one big, so you

2045
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:10,960
Speaker 5: know he's going to come in here hungry. But I

2046
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 5: think he's going to be too slow for Jimmy Krup.

2047
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 5: I don't think he's going to be enough athlete for him.

2048
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:19,960
Speaker 5: As long as Jimmy Krup paces himself and makes some

2049
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:22,800
Speaker 5: good decisions, I think Jimmy should win this fight. So

2050
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:23,679
Speaker 5: gimme Jimmy Crup.

2051
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:25,719
Speaker 3: A lot of good nicknames out there for Jimmy Crue,

2052
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 3: he has not adopted any of them. The boot as

2053
01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:31,120
Speaker 3: Cody loves, the Brute, the Bendigo Bomber. He tells me

2054
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 3: I can say the bend to gobomber, but he won't

2055
01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:35,799
Speaker 3: adopt it. And Kenny, you did not sound like somebody

2056
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 3: who was looking up Erslan Merch with that. I'm sorry

2057
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 3: to disappoint white heavyweight main event perth w A and

2058
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:49,839
Speaker 3: the first headlining spot for the Auckland native Carlos Alberg,

2059
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 3: the modest two to fifty betting favorite against former world

2060
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 3: title challenger Dominic Rays, who comes back at plus two

2061
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 3: h five. Alberg eight and one in the UFC. He

2062
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 3: has won eight in a row since losing his debut

2063
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:03,640
Speaker 3: to Kennedy and Zechikhu. That was March of twenty twenty one,

2064
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:06,800
Speaker 3: still a COVID nineteen climate back then. Rayes, on the

2065
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 3: other side, as many of you know, is reeled off

2066
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:11,680
Speaker 3: three in a row to return to prominence. Incredible man

2067
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 3: event in perth w A. Ken Flow lead us off

2068
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 3: on the headliner. Do you like Alberg or Rayes?

2069
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 5: Very very interesting fight. I think that Dominic Rays is

2070
01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 5: a SOUTHBA who likes to counter punch, and you know,

2071
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:26,519
Speaker 5: talk about a poll counter man. He's got a pull

2072
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:30,760
Speaker 5: counter from hell, and that comes into play very well.

2073
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:34,479
Speaker 5: When you get a guy who extends himself or gets

2074
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:37,639
Speaker 5: a little bit too froggy, that's where Rays will make

2075
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 5: you pay and you will not have an opportunity to

2076
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:43,360
Speaker 5: get back off the canvas. Raised is an excellent finisher

2077
01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:46,680
Speaker 5: and I just love his story in general. You know

2078
01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:49,320
Speaker 5: you talked about his comeback story earlier on this show, John,

2079
01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:52,120
Speaker 5: and I love everything about it, you know, this spiritual

2080
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 5: religious awakening and just his state of mind heading into

2081
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:57,800
Speaker 5: each and every fight, and I think we're seeing better

2082
01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:02,160
Speaker 5: results because of it. And if he wins this one,

2083
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:04,160
Speaker 5: I would love to see him fight for the belt

2084
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:08,320
Speaker 5: in the near future. Carlos Alberg, however, he isn't that

2085
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:11,320
Speaker 5: guy that gets too froggy. He isn't that guy that

2086
01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:16,040
Speaker 5: gets overly aggressive. He comes from that very traditional city

2087
01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 5: kickboxing style where it's very fundamentally sound. It's rooted in

2088
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 5: the basics. It's rooted in fainting and getting your opponent

2089
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:27,360
Speaker 5: to get themselves off off balance. And Carlos Olberg, you know,

2090
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:31,439
Speaker 5: he may have some of these boring performances because you

2091
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:35,519
Speaker 5: know he's he's not trying to make it necessarily that exciting.

2092
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 5: He's just trying to win. And if he gets you hurt, yes,

2093
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 5: he will be aggressive and try to take you out,

2094
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:42,719
Speaker 5: or if you get overly aggressive, he can counter himself.

2095
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 5: And you know, I think he's gonna be very careful

2096
01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:50,240
Speaker 5: and very aware of Dominic Ray's power. His counter punching ability,

2097
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 5: and he's gonna come in behind his faint, come in

2098
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 5: behind his jab, and be very careful in his approach.

2099
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:01,160
Speaker 5: And there might be some boring points of this fight

2100
01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 5: a little bit, but Olberg is gonna do what he

2101
01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:05,000
Speaker 5: needs to do to get this win. He understands that.

2102
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 5: You know, just like Rays, if he wins his fight,

2103
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:09,760
Speaker 5: can put himself in a position to fight for the belt. Well,

2104
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:12,639
Speaker 5: Olberg can do the same. And you know, him fighting

2105
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 5: in his home country. I think Carlos Olberg will win

2106
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 5: this fight. He'll take a more careful approach and yeah,

2107
01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:21,679
Speaker 5: give me Carlos Olberg.

2108
01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 3: Nicely done, Ken Flow. And when I think back to

2109
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:26,560
Speaker 3: our first fighter meeting with Carlos Alberg and when he

2110
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:29,240
Speaker 3: talked about some of his teammates and their ability to faint,

2111
01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:32,639
Speaker 3: I just thought, man, this is a thinking man's fighter

2112
01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:34,560
Speaker 3: that has the potential to go really far. He is

2113
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:37,679
Speaker 3: thirty four years old, good kickboxing career prior to MMA

2114
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:39,720
Speaker 3: in the UFC thirteen and one as an MMA pro,

2115
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 3: last win against Yan Bohovich, and of course Reyes, who

2116
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:45,320
Speaker 3: will be thirty six in December, has just looked out

2117
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 3: standing since that extended layoff largely due to that deep

2118
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:51,080
Speaker 3: vain thrombosis. That's kind of fun to say in a

2119
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 3: Boston accent, right, deep vain thrombosis, Curtis Hoglan, We will

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Speaker 3: need a prediction on the main events.

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Speaker 6: Can he pick that one?

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Speaker 5: Clean?

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Speaker 6: And I gotta agree with him.

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Speaker 8: The composure and like the fight IQ of Oldberg almost

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Speaker 8: like you'd almost expect him to have the experience of

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Speaker 8: somebody of like a Neil Magni or something like. He

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Speaker 8: has a decent amount of fights, but it's not that crazy,

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Speaker 8: and I think that's good. It's gonna be what win

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Speaker 8: wins him this fight. It's hard not to root for Riahs.

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Speaker 8: I mean, he beat John Jones, like it's it's hard

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Speaker 8: to uh discredit some of the things he's done in

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Speaker 8: the past.

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Speaker 6: But given the more.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to say derailing, but the performances after

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Speaker 8: that always now make me question his chin a little bit.

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Speaker 8: His composure and fight IQ has come a little bit

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Speaker 8: into question. And the way Oldberg is able to kind

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Speaker 8: of change rhythm and tempo midfights, like he's circling out

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Speaker 8: then suddenly he plants and crashes into you and stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: I could see that being a key here, and unfortunately,

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Speaker 8: I think he actually will probably catch Rias and potentially

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Speaker 8: finish him fairly late in the fight, which breaks my heart. Like,

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Speaker 8: if you don't root for Riaz, I question like your character,

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Speaker 8: but I would say this is Olberg's fight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nicely done, camflup. By the way, see over Curtis's

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Speaker 3: right shoulder. He's got those uh John Annick, those gloves

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Speaker 3: used fight used fighter cards. Actually, oh the cards. Oh

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Speaker 3: hell yeah, that's all cards.

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Speaker 8: Got a glove, got some medals, I gotta signed cowboy

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Speaker 8: hat in the other room. Yeah, we got we got

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Speaker 8: stuff all over the house.

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Speaker 5: Nice, Thank you dude.

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Speaker 3: All right, our final order of business, and we appreciate

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Speaker 3: everybody who's been there for these entire two hours live

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Speaker 3: today on YouTube. But it is time to place your bets.

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Speaker 3: got a thousand bucks to spend, doesn't have to be

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Speaker 3: on the main event, as you well know, the prelims

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Speaker 3: at your disposal. Anything you want, you get one thousand

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Speaker 8: Have at it, all right, thousand bucks. We're gonna keep

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Speaker 8: it pretty easy. We got two bets today, given the

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Speaker 8: volatility of the old heavyweights, We're gonna take the under

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Speaker 8: one and a half. Last I saw it, it was

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Speaker 8: plus one fifteen. Put five hondo on that one.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 8: And then last, I'm gonna go on old Tom Nolan

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Speaker 8: money line minus one forties.

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Speaker 6: Last I saw it. I don't know, I can't remember

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Speaker 6: what you guys had it at. But that's lasts.

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Speaker 3: All nicely done. Yeah, it's interesting, Like, I don't think

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Speaker 3: Justin Tafa plans to fight more than seven and a

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Speaker 3: half minutes on Sunday morning or whenever that fight goes down,

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Speaker 3: Ken Flow, what are your thoughts on how you're gonna

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Speaker 3: disperse your one keke go ahead?

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Speaker 5: Well, the last couple of weeks haven't been so hot

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Speaker 5: for me, Johnny, so I'm gonna I need to spice

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Speaker 5: things up, and I'm going against my best judgment here

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Speaker 5: on some of these bets, especially these first two. All right,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with two fifty on Louis Sutherland. Okay,

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Speaker 5: I'm going with two fifty on Jimmy Crue, don't let

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Speaker 5: me down, Jimmy, Jimmy, don't do it Jimmy, two fifty

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Speaker 5: on Crewe, and then I'm gonna do a little parlay,

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Speaker 5: which you know, these are the two picks that I'm

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Speaker 5: most confident in, so I decided to throw them into

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Speaker 5: parlay Alberg and Matthews for a five hundred dollars part.

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Speaker 3: Nicely done, Nicely done, like the way you guys attack

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Speaker 3: the board. If you want more from Curtis Hoagland, why

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Speaker 3: would you not, mad Maximurri and my man. Appreciate you

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Speaker 3: stepping up, enjoy the fights, and we will not lose

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Speaker 3: your number as I think you know. Thanks for all

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Speaker 3: the support and great job today work.

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Speaker 6: Appreciate you having me boys, Love you.

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Speaker 3: Love you too, buddy. There is Curtis Hogland with us

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Speaker 3: for the main event, challenge and place your bets and

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Speaker 3: we got to get on out of here. You know

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Speaker 3: one thing I just wanted to say on the way out.

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Speaker 3: It was so amazing to step into the boxing world.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know whether or not it's going to

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Speaker 3: be a one off or not, but I am eternally

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Speaker 3: grateful for all the support of the broadcast for Canelo

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Speaker 3: Versus Crawford. I do just have to say there was

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Speaker 3: one clip that was repurposed of us in that working

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Speaker 3: man shot at the end of the broadcast where we're

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Speaker 3: all sitting and you can see the papers. It's sort

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Speaker 3: of like the roughneck working man shot. And I felt

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Speaker 3: like there was just some awkward body language going on,

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Speaker 3: and so I tried to make a joke as Max

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Speaker 3: Kellerman and Andre Ward were looking at the camera. I

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Speaker 3: was like, you guys can look at me if you want.

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Speaker 3: And I think it sort of led to this false

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Speaker 3: narrative that maybe I was not embraced by them or oh,

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Speaker 3: you know. And again I don't know internally what their

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Speaker 3: thoughts are, but I just wanted our audience to know,

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Speaker 3: and my supporters out there that have rigorously come to

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Speaker 3: my defense, that I did feel embraced by the boxing community,

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Speaker 3: especially those two individuals, Max and Andre So hopefully not

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Speaker 3: the last time the three of us will have worked together,

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Speaker 3: but you know, I was definitely the guy coming in

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Speaker 3: on loaner, so who knows what will happen in the future.

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Speaker 3: Thanks everybody for stepping up today for these extended two hours.

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Speaker 3: Jason Annick Ray Longo, Curtis Hoglan stepping up. Our producer

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Speaker 3: is Cody Merrow. We are going to be back with

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Speaker 3: advance of UFC three twenty. Thanks everybody for watching live.

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