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Speaker 3: Let's talk about the market and where the money is

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Speaker 4: Boring is beautiful right now. So that's where a lot

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Speaker 4: That's a lot of people running for safety. Gold actual

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Speaker 4: they go to bonds, they go to cash. But also

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Speaker 4: Apple and Microsoft the two most widely held stocks on

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Speaker 4: the planet, right, and those have become the safety trade

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Speaker 4: for a lot of investors, don't you think, Ian A

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Speaker 4: lot of people are like, I'm freaking out everything. Let

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Speaker 5: do you think about that? And also, if I wanted

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Speaker 4: So there are some research shops and newsletters that track

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Speaker 4: credit default swops every single day. But you can check

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Speaker 4: ticker what the credit default swap price is right now

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Speaker 2: Just Deutsche Bank. I mentioned that last week.

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Speaker 6: So somebody put in a chat, what is the fall

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Speaker 4: Up to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars it is

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Speaker 4: that's insured again. That is if you're a broker goes down,

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Speaker 2: if you make a bad decision within your four one

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Speaker 6: Is there a historical precedent set for a brokerage account

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Speaker 2: The Wolf of Wall Street. Yeah, Wolf of Wall Street

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Speaker 4: So nobody, nobody of that scale. Oh, chop shops go

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Speaker 3: God, you brought up gold and so it makes me, wonder,

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty three?

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Speaker 2: Are are the ones that we should keep on our watchless? Absolutely? Chocolate, guys.

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Speaker 4: I was looking at stocks at fifty two week highs

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Speaker 4: as Ian knows, trends in motion. Sometimes stay in motion

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Speaker 4: Keep an eye on that. Keep an eye on sugar,

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Speaker 4: Keep an eye on copper. Everybody makes a big deal

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Speaker 4: For for a reason, copper is a great leading indicator

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Speaker 4: And I would keep an eye on lumber prices as well.

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Speaker 5: If I'm watching the show that I'm terrified, I'm seeing

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Speaker 5: and seeing SCV blow up. What three pieces of advice

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Speaker 2: So that's a great question. And I get scared.

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Speaker 4: I've been in this a long time, and I get

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Speaker 4: and I think I've heard in say this too. What's

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Speaker 4: at us at once. Last week felt like six months.

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Speaker 4: You know, I was talking about this NonStop. So if

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Speaker 4: these things happen, and they're happening faster, but eventually they resolve.

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Speaker 2: We go through cycles.

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Speaker 4: This is a pure product of massive inflation coming out

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Speaker 4: tamp down inflation, and all the broken pieces that we're

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Speaker 4: going to discover, or as Warren Buffett likes to say,

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Speaker 4: when the tide goes out, we're going to see who's

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Speaker 4: swim and naked. There's a lot of bank swimming naked.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of tech companies swim and naked right now.

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Speaker 4: Right there's a lot of companies that binged on cheap money.

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Speaker 4: Right But this cycle is going to end at some point,

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Speaker 4: and you can actually see it in the FEDS dot

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Speaker 4: lot and in their summary of Economic projections. Road's going

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Speaker 4: to slow this year a lot, it's going to pick

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Speaker 4: up a little next years, are going to come down

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Speaker 4: to around three percent by the year twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: That is a much more normalized oper environment for investing.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, while we're all worried about a

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Speaker 4: bear market, we're not in one anymore. And the Nasdaq

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Speaker 4: gets on its way to a bull market, so there's

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Speaker 4: always a place to invest.

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Speaker 2: Cycles happen.

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Speaker 4: You got to stay with it and you got a

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Speaker 4: dollar cost average because if you were smart and I

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Speaker 4: heard you in saying this, I heard you guys saying

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Speaker 4: in the last couple of shows, you've been dollar cost

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Speaker 4: averaging into your favorite stocks for the past eight to

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Speaker 4: ten months. You're smart, and you've been getting great deals,

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Speaker 4: and your average price is low, and you're probably sitting

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Speaker 4: on games right now.

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Speaker 2: So that's what I would say.

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Speaker 4: These things pass and then we resume, we normalize, and

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Speaker 4: then something else happens. But long term investors, right the tortoises,

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Speaker 4: they're the ones that usually win the race.

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Speaker 6: You said a Nastac is headed towards a bull market. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 6: elaborate on that as far as the long term. So

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Speaker 6: it's high was fourteen, six hundred and forty six. It's

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Speaker 6: currently at eleven thousand, seven hundred and sixty eight backhand math,

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Speaker 6: that's probably still thirty percent off of his peak.

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Speaker 2: Right, But you want to look at where it is

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Speaker 6: No, No, I'm just saying so, So what I'm saying is that,

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Speaker 6: what's the outlook for it? What's the outlook for the

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Speaker 6: nasdack next year and a half?

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Speaker 4: Well, Because the Nasdaq is a market weighted index, right,

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Speaker 4: market cap weighted index. In other words, it's moved by

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Speaker 4: the size of the biggest stocks in the index. It's

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Speaker 4: going to move wherever Microsoft and Apple and a Nvidia

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Speaker 4: want to take it. Right, So as investors are thinking

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Speaker 4: the Fed's going to eventually pause, that's.

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Speaker 2: One of the reasons we've seen this rally. One.

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Speaker 4: Apple and Microsoft feel like safe stocks. They pay dividends,

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Speaker 4: they're massive, they have a lot of cash. But also

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Speaker 4: as interest rates cool start to cool a little bit,

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Speaker 4: maybe after May, after June, they're going to either stay

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Speaker 4: kind of at these levels or they're going to come down.

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Speaker 4: Over the next two years, these tech companies are going

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Speaker 4: to benefit. So the Nasdaq's going to do well because

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Speaker 4: it's market weighted and the biggest stocks drag it around.

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Speaker 4: And as long as investors are piling into the safety

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Speaker 4: of big tech stocks right now like they are, the

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Speaker 4: nazak's going to keep rising. Now we get another shock

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Speaker 4: to the system that could change everything. But right now

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Speaker 4: you're seeing this bifurcation right of what was hot is

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Speaker 4: no longer hot, but also the twenty twenty stocks, those

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Speaker 4: the big strong tech stocks, so that NAZAC should continue

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Speaker 4: to do pretty well. It's already separated from the SMP

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Speaker 4: five hundred aut I don't know sixteen percent or so,

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Speaker 4: so that I would I would probably think that that's

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Speaker 4: going to continue unless we get another shock in the

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Speaker 4: FED goes for raisin rates a full percentage point, which

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Speaker 4: they won't do because that'll break everything. So I like

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Speaker 4: the trend of the NAZAK right now, and I buy

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Speaker 4: the qqq ETF and I buy it all the time, up, down,

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Speaker 4: all time highs, you know, fifty two weeks low. I

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Speaker 4: keep buying it because I believe in that, like you guys,

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Speaker 4: growth long term.

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Speaker 6: My graduates from my school being forced bad drops rop

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Speaker 6: rock back drop, back drop,