WEBVTT - MisSpelling: Secrets of The Manor (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio Podcast. You've been waiting

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<v Speaker 1>and it's back. We're back with part two. Uh bom

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<v Speaker 1>bomb bomb. Oh that was good right here.

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<v Speaker 2>I am very excited because we barely like touch the surface?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that? How is that the right saying? It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I have so much more to ask about the manner.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's so many surfaces that's to touch there.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, So I want to begin by asking you

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<v Speaker 2>this question, which we may have sort of talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I know that the house before was sort

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<v Speaker 2>of what you really consider your growing up house. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love for you to start today just by explaining,

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<v Speaker 2>like when you think back about the mannor, do you

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<v Speaker 2>feel happy, do you feel warm? What do you feel?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel nothing. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. No,

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<v Speaker 1>person a delby thing. I'm still on it. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna let go that sound by it for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's like the new Demure. No, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel lots of things tell me everything when I

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<v Speaker 1>think about you know what, when I think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>I think my joy and excitement about it comes from

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<v Speaker 1>the outside world's joy and excitement because it was everybody's fantasy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's almost a little bit of a version of

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<v Speaker 1>nine O two and oh that when I meet people,

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<v Speaker 1>I see their excitement, the light in their eyes when

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<v Speaker 1>they ask about the manner, So that in some way

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<v Speaker 1>brings me joy and makes me feel closer to it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I hear you, so if I were to totally

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<v Speaker 1>remove anybody else's view of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Manner, I really just want to know Tori's feelings, like

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<v Speaker 2>that teenage tory to the adult tory. Now, do I

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<v Speaker 2>feel sad? Happy?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't go sad.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me I don't feel happy?

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<v Speaker 1>What would I feel? I'm trying, really, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>like tap into feelings for a second. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a hard one for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we've got nothing but time.

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<v Speaker 1>How long do you guys have I'm trying to find

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<v Speaker 1>as long.

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<v Speaker 2>As it takes for me to sort of because I

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<v Speaker 2>think there's something in there.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something there. I think we've talked about this before

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<v Speaker 1>because we're good friends that I a lot of my

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<v Speaker 1>life kind of gets unlocked when I talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>When I started writing my books and when I tell

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<v Speaker 1>the stories, and you know, sometimes we'll be talking and

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<v Speaker 1>a story comes to me and I haven't tapped into

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<v Speaker 1>that memory in twenty thirty forty years. So that's what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. When I think about the manner, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>where are the feelings? What is it? I'm not sure,

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<v Speaker 1>so perhaps it'll come out during this.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what's weird is like it actually concerns

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<v Speaker 2>me as your friend that you feel nothing, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>very tory ish, right, like block the hard stuff for

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<v Speaker 2>you know, have a wall up or don't feel. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel because this is like where your family lived, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know that you have cozier, sort of warmer memories

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<v Speaker 2>of the house prior, but it's like this was where

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<v Speaker 2>you spent time for many years, even if you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>live there. It's where you went for the holidays. It's

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<v Speaker 2>is it where your dad passed away?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I was just about to say that, I

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<v Speaker 1>think when I think of the Manner, my final memory

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<v Speaker 1>is being there after his funeral. It was the last

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<v Speaker 1>time I saw him, a couple of weeks before he passed.

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<v Speaker 1>Father's Day, I believe was the last time I saw

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<v Speaker 1>him that year, and then he passed away. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's more locked into my memories. It's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I lost my dad there. Yeah, I think it's that.

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<v Speaker 2>Gets that gave me chills a little bit. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't blame me if you were like I hate

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<v Speaker 2>that house.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't hate it. I love it, like I really

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<v Speaker 1>do love it. Its I was gonna say it has

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<v Speaker 1>a special little place in my heart, has a special

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<v Speaker 1>big place, like obviously it's ginormous. You know what was

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<v Speaker 1>great though, that before my mom sold it, I got

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<v Speaker 1>to take my kids there and only Liam and Stella

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<v Speaker 1>were alive. I believe I have to go way back

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<v Speaker 1>kid count, but I was happy they got to see,

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<v Speaker 1>like where I kind of grew up. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>weird at that point because it was pretty much all empty.

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<v Speaker 1>And my mom gave me my dad's typewriter, which is

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<v Speaker 1>something that was really important to me and something I

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<v Speaker 1>cherish because I'm so much like him, so I love

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<v Speaker 1>having that piece of him. But yeah, that's crazy like

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<v Speaker 1>that my kids now, like I wish they could go

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<v Speaker 1>there now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I have a question about that. But I

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<v Speaker 2>want to dig into this a little bit more, Like

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<v Speaker 2>when you think about it is what comes to this

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<v Speaker 2>was like we left that house, my dad passed away there.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe your mom had extreme sadness there because this was

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<v Speaker 2>her dream, and then she she moved because she.

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<v Speaker 1>Lost your father probably, yes, yes, and yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well tell me. And I'm also feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I want, I want to connect that house with

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<v Speaker 1>my dad because that's the last place I saw him.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel like my dad that wasn't his dream house.

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<v Speaker 1>He liked smaller and cozier. You know. The first house

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<v Speaker 1>we lived in he probably that was probably too big.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't even go through all the rooms in that house.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just as ginormous a public figure he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was really, deep down a simple man, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think I carry a lot of that with me and

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<v Speaker 1>I love that part. So it was like the opposite

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<v Speaker 1>of anything he ever wanted, you know. So I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to think, you know, I guess the I guess because

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<v Speaker 1>by the time we moved there, my dad was getting

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<v Speaker 1>older and then he went through cancer, which he survived,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was sick a lot, And I think I

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<v Speaker 1>connect that house with him being sick and being in

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<v Speaker 1>his bedroom a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, if we.

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<v Speaker 1>Really wanted any time with my dad after we were

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<v Speaker 1>at that house, I mean not, I guess it's later on.

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<v Speaker 1>We had some great memories with my dad, like him

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<v Speaker 1>in the bowling alley and serving up drinks to my

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<v Speaker 1>friends and my brother's friends and I and like going

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<v Speaker 1>to the Playboy Mansion having like the after party with

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<v Speaker 1>my dad there, and he'd go to the parties at

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<v Speaker 1>the Playboy Mansion with us, Like he was awesome. But

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<v Speaker 1>if I think of like the final chapter of his life,

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<v Speaker 1>it was, you know, mostly just in his bedroom, and

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<v Speaker 1>like you would go in and like get in bed

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<v Speaker 1>with him and hang out, and he would be watching

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<v Speaker 1>his football games and stuff, and we would talk about

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<v Speaker 1>shows and stuff. He always talking about you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>was my dad, always talking about work, but in a

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<v Speaker 1>good way because I love talking about that stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>I have those memories. But yeah, actually, like the house,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying so numb to it, do you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. Like, And again I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>like a therapist to you, but like you see, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a little numb where you're like, which is fine too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a house.

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<v Speaker 1>We go there and have like a seance or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to go there so bad, But I wonder

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<v Speaker 2>if you had pain associated with that loss that you've

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<v Speaker 2>never dealt with so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I got to tell you, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I've told many people this. I really never dealt

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<v Speaker 1>with the death of my father.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't have it. I don't think you have either.

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<v Speaker 1>No, which I'd like to at some point, like that's

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<v Speaker 1>really important and key. But it was like the most

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<v Speaker 1>important human in my life passed away, and it came

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<v Speaker 1>at a time where our family was a bit disjointed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a time when I had just left my first marriage,

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<v Speaker 1>just started my second marriage. It was it was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be like the happiest time my life, but then boom,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the saddest time in my life. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Dean and I had just gotten married and then all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, it was like my dad passed away.

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<v Speaker 1>And then a month later we conceived Liam, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was just everything happened at once.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes me want to cry for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I had no choice. We all we always have choices.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think for me, it happened and it was

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<v Speaker 1>like it was so hard that I mean, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it was like a week or two weeks after my

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<v Speaker 1>dad passed, maybe less. I went into production on a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had a TV movie that Deane and I

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<v Speaker 1>were doing, not the one we met on, but with

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<v Speaker 1>the same production company. We had put this whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>back together with the same production company, the same director.

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<v Speaker 1>We were going back to the same place, to Ottawa,

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<v Speaker 1>which is where we met and fell in love, to

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<v Speaker 1>do a new movie. I was ep on that movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I had taken on kind of the role of everything

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I did wardrobe for it, like shopped all

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<v Speaker 1>my wardrobe. It was intense.

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<v Speaker 2>Although simultaneously to when your dad had passed.

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<v Speaker 1>Away, well, my dad passed unexpectedly from complications of a stroke.

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<v Speaker 1>So it all happened in a short amount of time,

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<v Speaker 1>and the show was planned. I was supposed to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also it all happened at the same time

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<v Speaker 1>that So Notorious, which is the show that was loosely

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<v Speaker 1>based in my life, not so loosely scripted show that

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<v Speaker 1>I had also created and was on VH one, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was so proud of and it was like a

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<v Speaker 1>high point. I was like, this is it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I climbed back up that mountain. It got canceled after

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<v Speaker 1>one season, had massive, you know, great critic reviews. Was

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<v Speaker 1>a game changer. In that platform of hybrid TV, of

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<v Speaker 1>scripted reality, and all of a sudden it just VH one.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't the right place, and it was great, and

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<v Speaker 1>they gave us such creative license and they were great partners,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was you know, people were still into reality

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<v Speaker 1>and hadn't made that jump in and descripted in their territory,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just didn't land. And anyway that was canceled.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't it kind of curb your enthusiasmy Like yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like that, yeah, and that got canceled.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like it was like hit after hit after hit,

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<v Speaker 1>good bad, good bad. And then I'd had this movie

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<v Speaker 1>slated to go film and my dad passed. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>let an entire production down. I remember ruth Anna and

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<v Speaker 1>I talking about it and I literally like was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my dad would always say show must go on,

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<v Speaker 1>got on a plane, went to Canada and filmed it

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<v Speaker 1>and literally, I think a week after my dad died.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've never grieved my father. You haven't the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the manner. We just I just uncovered a huge

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<v Speaker 1>secret from Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we'll still keep talking about the house, but

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about this. It's like it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like two things to me. And again we're close, so

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<v Speaker 2>you can shut me up or maybe feel it. Work work, work, work, work,

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<v Speaker 2>work work. You say, you're so much like your dad,

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<v Speaker 2>which is exactly how your dad coped, and work work work, work, work, work, work,

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<v Speaker 2>and you get tons of joy from that. But like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the patriarch of your family, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>use that word lightly, Like your father was a true patriarch,

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<v Speaker 2>not just to you all, but like everybody that we

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<v Speaker 2>talked to, Aaron Spelling, Aaron Spelling, Aaron Spelling, like he

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<v Speaker 2>he means so much to all these people that were

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<v Speaker 2>on all these shows, but he was your daddy, do

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Like, and I know, like

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<v Speaker 2>this is your guy and you're so much like him,

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<v Speaker 2>and like I want to cry. So if I want

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<v Speaker 2>to cry, it must be in you somewhere, because I

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<v Speaker 2>think you just work work, work, work work, And then

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<v Speaker 2>you had sort of chaos, right like yeah, new marriage,

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<v Speaker 2>the tabloids, a baby working like that, you didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>to grieve this person who I would argue was the

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<v Speaker 2>most important person in your entire life. Correct, Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so sorry, Like it makes me sad for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so what's what's up next for work? I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>kidda gosh, yeah, do you miss him?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, what would you I don't know, like what would

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<v Speaker 2>make you maybe feel like you actually, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you feel maybe you feel connected to him, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you did deal with it in the way you

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<v Speaker 2>deal with it. I don't pretend to judge that you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Deal with anything. And you know that I don't deal

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<v Speaker 1>with pain and loss, and I think, look at me,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be like thinking, you know, back to me,

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<v Speaker 1>my problems are so much less than everybody else's, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I always want to say that, No, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say about this time. I've dealt with so much pain

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<v Speaker 1>and loss, you know, personally and professionally my whole life,

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<v Speaker 1>that I just am so conditioned to compartmentalize it and

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<v Speaker 1>move on. Here's you know, one week ago dancing with

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<v Speaker 1>the stars. You know who would have thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And then I went home and it's just like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god. And then I was like, I'm fine, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is just what I do. And I, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so used to disappointment that I just move on.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you're allowed to be sad. I have friends

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<v Speaker 2>who lost their fathers, right. I have a girlfriend, one

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<v Speaker 2>of my best friends in kindergarten, who lost her father

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<v Speaker 2>twenty plus years ago, and she says and tears come

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<v Speaker 2>all the time when we talk about him. And she says,

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<v Speaker 2>there's tears like right here at all times, like right

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<v Speaker 2>under her skin, on the surface, so that she could

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<v Speaker 2>be cry, not necessarily like devastated crime, but like missing him.

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<v Speaker 2>Tears every day now, some days she chooses not to.

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<v Speaker 2>Someday she doesn't. Like many people say, like you have

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<v Speaker 2>your life before you lose a parent, and after you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to be fine. Like, I don't know. That's

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<v Speaker 2>to me. And again I'm not trying to psycho analyze

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<v Speaker 2>what that f do I know, but like it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like you're numb to the feelings of the house because

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<v Speaker 2>you're like numb to the feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I'm numb to my entire life. Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just the manner, it'd be the house before that,

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<v Speaker 1>it'd have my childhood. It's yeah, I mean, for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>my tears are there. There's not a day that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't not think of my dad. I think of him

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<v Speaker 1>all day long, But I guess my tears are not

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<v Speaker 1>there at the surface, they're like deep down attached to

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<v Speaker 1>my bones.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and you always have to because so many people

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<v Speaker 2>bring your dad up to all the time. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>almost like you have to put on that brave face

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<v Speaker 2>because people want to share their memory. I mean, we've

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<v Speaker 2>had so many Your dad made my career, your dad

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<v Speaker 2>did this for me. Your dad looked out for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a problem and your dad took care of it.

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<v Speaker 2>That you don't want to be like I miss that me, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he was your dad. It's always liked people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's almost like other people take him because they

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<v Speaker 2>have their own thing that you don't feel like that

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<v Speaker 2>was your dad.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like I'm worried enough to accept that

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<v Speaker 1>I can own that completely. Yeah, yeah, be right.

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<v Speaker 2>I deserve that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was his only daughter. I was like the total

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<v Speaker 1>daddy's girls, the daddy's girl, like you know, from the

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<v Speaker 1>time I was little, you do those projects in school,

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<v Speaker 1>like my hero, you know, it was always my dad,

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<v Speaker 1>like all throughout, you know, my entire academic existence, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then beyond that, like who's your hero?

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you wish one person? You could have one

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<v Speaker 1>moment back with who do you want to dedicate something

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<v Speaker 1>to you? It's always my dad. It's always going to

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<v Speaker 1>be my dad. Who do you want to be the

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<v Speaker 1>most proud of you? Well, my mom, dude, But you

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<v Speaker 1>always want your parents to be proud of you. But

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<v Speaker 1>my dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, sorry lost him. Yeah, I'm so sorry. And

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<v Speaker 2>you were so young, and I understand. He had an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing life and he lived to be How old was

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<v Speaker 2>your dad when he passed away?

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty two?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, he had like this magnificent life, but he was

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<v Speaker 2>older when he had you, so you've got less years

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<v Speaker 2>with him. Yeah, you must miss him, and like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I would like to find a way to

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<v Speaker 1>access the feelings because I think you know me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>good with memories, so in my head I can see

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<v Speaker 1>everything and every moment with him and hear every conversation

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<v Speaker 1>and watch it play out like his TV shows, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's not complete feelings attached to that, just like when

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<v Speaker 1>a TV show is created. He did a brilliant job.

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<v Speaker 1>I do a great job when I create TV shows,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we put it out there and except for you

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<v Speaker 1>to interpret it using your feelings, so I can watch

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<v Speaker 1>all of my life in my head, but I have

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<v Speaker 1>not completely accessed my feelings for them. That's what's happened.

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<v Speaker 2>You're watching it from like outside, like you watch a TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Show, Like the entire world has watched my life. Correct,

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<v Speaker 1>So I would love to find a way to dive

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<v Speaker 1>in and because I feel like it's not the answer

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<v Speaker 1>to all my problems, but it would really help me

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<v Speaker 1>kind of move on, yeah, and be able to be

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<v Speaker 1>a best version of me if I could be able

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<v Speaker 1>to access my feelings from my childhood. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>know someone that knows someone that knows someone.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think we got of plenty of actual therapists,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm I apologize that I'm the one here sort

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<v Speaker 2>of having the conversation, but it does feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Like oddly enough makes sense, Like you know, you're one

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<v Speaker 1>of my friends that's willing to go there with me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Well, it feels like your life was a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit steadier when Aaron Spelling was here, Like it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying it was perfect, right, but it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like he passed and there's chaos, like the show was

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<v Speaker 2>canceled and I'm pregnant and I'm married, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just so much for you to suddenly have to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with that would have been those things. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>call my dad the other day because something was wrong

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<v Speaker 2>with my taxes. And I call my dad because I'm like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>what am I supposed to do with this key? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Like, like, it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm fifty. We call our dads, right.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't that guy though?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you ever call him to be like, hey, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how to write a check or I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't that guy? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>No? I would call him and he would we would

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the dogs and how my dogs were his

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<v Speaker 1>dogs were, and I would say, hi, Daddy, high Toto

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<v Speaker 1>and we would Yeah, we didn't talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you do so many things with Toto?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>To O t O?

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<v Speaker 1>And I know everyone says, is it the dog or

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<v Speaker 1>the band? No? No, he called me I was little

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<v Speaker 1>because I guess when I was little, I couldn't say

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<v Speaker 1>my name, so I was like sook cute to toe?

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, but I capital T lowercase O capital T

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<v Speaker 1>lower case is how he always wrote it in notes

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<v Speaker 1>to me. He always bring me like handwritten notes, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he didn't like to talk about. I remember once

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<v Speaker 1>my uncle Danny, who lived in near you before he passed.

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<v Speaker 1>Where did I tell you to live Mariten County?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, yeah, beautiful? Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So whenever he would come visit, and my dad's brother

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<v Speaker 1>and the brothers very close. And Uncle Danny was more

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<v Speaker 1>like the father type. He would always call me every

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<v Speaker 1>week and be like, what's going on with school? What's

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<v Speaker 1>going on with boys? You know? He would always like

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<v Speaker 1>ask the questions that my dad didn't want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember him coming to visit and asking across

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<v Speaker 1>the dinner table at the Manor. We were in the

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<v Speaker 1>breakfast room. So it was the round table that's distinguished

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<v Speaker 1>it from the rectangular table and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was the cozier table, and it was on

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<v Speaker 2>the table it was yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still you know. Each of the tables had a

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<v Speaker 1>button underneath that my mom would silently someone saw when

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<v Speaker 1>she wanted, you know, everyone was done, she would assess

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<v Speaker 1>the button.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so funny that you bring that up. So I learned,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and fifteen twenty years ago that my dad

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<v Speaker 2>growing up, they also had one of those buttons that

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<v Speaker 2>my my papa for some reason. I think there's was

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<v Speaker 2>on the floor, but I don't know. Maybe it was

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<v Speaker 2>on the table. I was gobsmacked when I learned, because

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't grow up like that, right, I'm not pretending

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up. I'm so grateful. I was very privileged,

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<v Speaker 2>but I did not grow up like you did or

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<v Speaker 2>my dad did with this button. I couldn't fathom it.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically for people listening, like wealthy people had this button,

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<v Speaker 2>and that meant the table would be cleared, right, someone

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<v Speaker 2>would come out and either bring out the meal or

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<v Speaker 2>clear the table. Is that right?

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<v Speaker 1>You're blowing my mind right now, because I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>this was a thing. I mean my mom My mom

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<v Speaker 1>is like a DIY creative genius with things, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought she created No, it was actually I think

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<v Speaker 2>that my dad's you know, my dad was a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>but my papa, I always envisioned it on the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't that seems strange. I'm gonna have to

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<v Speaker 2>ask him. But there definitely was a button, but they

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<v Speaker 2>very rarely ate in the dining room. Also, they ate

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<v Speaker 2>in the kitchen like you guys did, but they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have a button in the kitchen before.

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<v Speaker 1>I forget the proper dining room which had the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>person or twenty five people rectangular table. Yes, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a button in there as well to call to let

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<v Speaker 1>the butler know, like time to clear, the plates, were

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<v Speaker 1>ready for the second course or whatever. My mom also

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<v Speaker 1>designed the room, and my mom and dad like Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 1>and Christmas would blow people's minds that would come over

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm not good with how far away it was.

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<v Speaker 1>But keep in mind a twenty five person table. So

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<v Speaker 1>she would be at one end, he would be at

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<v Speaker 1>the other, and they could just look up and he

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<v Speaker 1>could go, hi, honey and ask her a question. She

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<v Speaker 1>would say something. And she designed the room that the

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<v Speaker 1>way the ceiling was done that you could hear each other. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm weird. I'm not even sure how to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I knew.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I get what you're saying. There was some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of a thing. I thought there was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a TV monitor. So did they each have a button

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<v Speaker 2>or was that? Did your mom handle that like you're.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom handled that? So you know what?

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<v Speaker 2>It reminds me of. Have you seen the original batman.

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<v Speaker 1>Who sticks in the ceiling? Is that who sticks?

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm picturing there's a scene in Batman where Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Keaton and Kim Bexinger bass singer, how you say that name?

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<v Speaker 2>Basinger sitting in this you know he's Wayne manor like

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<v Speaker 2>like your manner, and they're at the opposite sides of

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<v Speaker 2>the table. They can't even talk to each other. And

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<v Speaker 2>I remember like they grabbed their soups or whatever and

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<v Speaker 2>went into the kitchen to eat in there, same kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing where you're like, and then I remember Michael Keaton,

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<v Speaker 2>Bruce Wayne Batman. She says something about the room and

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, I don't think I've ever been in here before.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like seems so crazy in the movie, but

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<v Speaker 2>like you're like those Bruce Wayne. So anyway, go back

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<v Speaker 2>to uncle.

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<v Speaker 1>Danly So, Uncle Danny So in the breakfast room round

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<v Speaker 1>table and he comes to visit for the weekend, and

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<v Speaker 1>so he looks across the table and he's like, keep

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<v Speaker 1>in mind, I'm not a young girl. I'm like in

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<v Speaker 1>my early twenties, i'd say, like twenty two, twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>And he goes, oh, he goes Toto, he goes, are

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<v Speaker 1>you dating? You know, what's your love life like? And

0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:09.080
<v Speaker 1>my dad was like he was like Danny, we don't

0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:11.399
<v Speaker 1>talk about that, or we don't want to talk about that,

0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:13.480
<v Speaker 1>and stopped him from talking in a nice way. But

0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:15.280
<v Speaker 1>they were brothers, so they would riff with each other.

0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Dad didn't want to like talk about that kind of

0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:17.679
<v Speaker 2>stuff ever.

0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:20.680
<v Speaker 1>He didn't want to talk about boys, didn't want to

0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:25.040
<v Speaker 1>talk about dating, didn't want to talk about finances. I

0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:27.760
<v Speaker 1>would and it wasn't like it wasn't so much like

0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:31.680
<v Speaker 1>would ever say no, But like you know, read the room.

0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I grew up from a young age knowing what you

0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 1>couldn't couldn't talk about and what couldn't couldn't do in

0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:39.720
<v Speaker 1>a room, like from my assessment at a very young age.

0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:41.639
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's why I take so much in

0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:45.120
<v Speaker 1>like very quickly when I'm out places, like I read

0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:47.719
<v Speaker 1>the room. But yeah, so he never wanted to talk

0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:48.359
<v Speaker 1>about stuff like that.

0:23:56.520 --> 0:23:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Was there ever like a time when like and this

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:01.760
<v Speaker 2>is very personal, but I'll admit this happens in our

0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:03.840
<v Speaker 2>family all the time where there was just like a

0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:08.600
<v Speaker 2>big blowout fight like whoa, like nobody ever like you know,

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:11.119
<v Speaker 2>shut up, Yeah I'm not doing you know, there was

0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:13.200
<v Speaker 2>never like I don't know, I don't know, no, I

0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:15.320
<v Speaker 2>don't think I said shut up, but it would be

0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:16.040
<v Speaker 2>like right now.

0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I would go to my friend's houses and hear the

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 1>way that their and their families talked, and I was

0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:25.680
<v Speaker 1>just shocked. And at first I'd be like, Oh, their

0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:28.359
<v Speaker 1>families sound like they hate each other. I don't understand.

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:31.919
<v Speaker 1>And then I realized they were so close. They were

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 1>those families were the closest, and I was just I

0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:38.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't grow up that way. I I'm fifty one. I

0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 1>have never in my entire lifetime told my mom and

0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:43.359
<v Speaker 1>my dad when he was like to shut up or

0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:48.520
<v Speaker 1>or raise my voice. Her never occurred to me or

0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:51.800
<v Speaker 1>to get mad, you know. Think you know, I think

0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 1>the most I ever did was huff and puff and

0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:56.439
<v Speaker 1>probably walk out and then slam my bedroom door when

0:24:56.480 --> 0:24:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I was a teenager.

0:24:57.200 --> 0:24:58.439
<v Speaker 2>You know what your slam?

0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like the time they like making out with, like

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the family chef, like I think when I was ground

0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:06.159
<v Speaker 1>at that time, I went to the room to my

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 1>room and like locked my door, and then my nanny

0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:09.879
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, you tear lock the door.

0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, sorry, sorry, Oh that's interesting that nanny said,

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 2>don't lock the door. We don't lock doors. I don't

0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 2>like locked doors.

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:17.200
<v Speaker 1>That's either and we don't do that.

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:20.639
<v Speaker 2>That's a no. So did you have strict rules, Like

0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:22.919
<v Speaker 2>was it just a very proper household?

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:26.240
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know, so like tell me what's proper,

0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:28.280
<v Speaker 1>ask me questions and then I can go into it, because.

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I mean I don't have a proper household. Like

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:35.320
<v Speaker 2>there's it's very loud. You're allowed to say whatever you want.

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 2>In my household. There's like, you know, always kind of

0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:42.639
<v Speaker 2>know this, yes that I don't want that. I'm not

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 2>doing that. You got to go do this, you know.

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:48.680
<v Speaker 1>And that's how Yeah, I raised my kids. It's kind

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 1>of the opposite. And you know, when Dean and I met,

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 1>he was raised a completely different way. His you know

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 1>and not you know, not all good, but like, you know,

0:25:58.040 --> 0:25:59.200
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of yelling and a lot of

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 1>it was just a loud house growing up, and I

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 1>was like I was in a very quiet house.

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:06.159
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I don't like yelling. I'm not into the

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:10.760
<v Speaker 2>like yelling arguing thing, but I definitely like to speak

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 2>your mind and nothing off limits.

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:15.359
<v Speaker 1>So like, so we met somewhere in the middle, and

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:17.719
<v Speaker 1>that's what our family that we raised, that's what we're

0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 1>like everyone talks and everyone has such a weird question

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:21.560
<v Speaker 1>like did.

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Your mom never sit you down and be like, Okay,

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:26.159
<v Speaker 2>now you're gonna get your period and here's what's going

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 2>to happen.

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:29.359
<v Speaker 1>No, because you know what happened when I got my period.

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 1>I told that story I got the belt. But if

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:35.840
<v Speaker 1>there was ever anyone to talk to about stuff, yeah,

0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 1>I always talked to my mom about stuff. And my

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:40.679
<v Speaker 1>mom yes, because I didn't know, so you know, when

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>there were boys and stuff, I would always you know,

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 1>you remember my mom saying like, do you remember like

0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:50.479
<v Speaker 1>party chat rooms like on I had my Apple two

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 1>wee computer two wee too. Yeah, I'm going way back

0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:56.440
<v Speaker 1>to the eighties now and dating myself. That was legit

0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 1>that we had those in those party rooms like it

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:01.920
<v Speaker 1>was when you go in, Yeah, I would do. It's

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:05.439
<v Speaker 1>like before there were really like visuals for computer games

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 1>like they were starting, but it was a lot of

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 1>like almost like books and you could like choot. They

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 1>would be very descriptive of things when you had like

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:16.119
<v Speaker 1>a mystery game and rooms you go into but you

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't see anything.

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember a game called Secret Agent that was

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 2>like our first game and you'd have to say, like

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 2>go to door, and then this weird graphic would like

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:27.920
<v Speaker 2>go to the door, use card and then the like

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:31.160
<v Speaker 2>weird door would go, Yeah, you're trying to save somebody,

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 2>which it was like very hard. Anyone in the fifties

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 2>might remember Secret Agent.

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly the game I'm talking about. There was that one,

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 1>and then there was some mystery game in the house

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 1>that I remember telling my dad. Of course, always like Dad,

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I played this game. You should make a TV show

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:48.399
<v Speaker 1>about it. I probably did, but.

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 2>It was always that Charlie's Angels just kidding, Yeah, right, but.

0:27:55.600 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Get credit. But there. Yeah, there was like these party

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:03.359
<v Speaker 1>chat rooms and I think I was in fifth grade

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 1>and I somehow got into it was a sex room

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 1>or something where people would talk sexually, like and it

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:16.560
<v Speaker 1>was all just typing, so there were no visuals. You

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 1>didn't have to put pictures.

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 2>Remember those nine seven six numbers, and you'd call like

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 2>nine seven six sexy and that would be like a

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:23.199
<v Speaker 2>sex thing.

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Was it like probably something like this. And I had

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 1>a profile that I signed up and for some reason

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I got into a gay one for some reason, so

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I was I posted as I was a gay man

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 1>because I didn't know any different. I was like, oh,

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 1>this is the one that.

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 2>You were like catfishing as like a teenager.

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes, And then my mom said she was on the phone,

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, her dial up phone in the bathroom that

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 1>would come out of a drawer.

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 2>And she, first of all, we have to talk about that.

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 2>But was the Internet in existence when you were doing this?

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 1>It must have yet I don't.

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 2>But then how would you talk to people on a computer?

0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember, but you would submit a chat. It

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>was a chat room, so it must have been internet.

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:05.960
<v Speaker 2>It was a dial up, yeah, I remember.

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Then.

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you got mail. Wait, your mom had a phone

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 2>in a drawer. I'm sorry, this is gonna get everybody.

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 1>I back back then, my mom was a smoker and

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 1>she now hasn't smoked in Oh my gosh, good, it

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 1>feels like my whole life. But growing up she was

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 1>a smoker. And besides the candy dishes, we always had

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>cigarettes out in the house, which we again grew up

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 1>never eating the chocolates or smoking the cigarettes because it

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 1>was just always there. And you know, my sixty year

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 1>old friends would come over, they'd be like, there's cigarettes out.

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Have you tried one?

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, no, pause, I think I forgot about this.

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 2>So there was always candy dishes with candy in them, yes,

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 2>in every room.

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, oh oh what kind of candy? Oh, I'll

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 1>get specific. There were her She's kisses, there were the

0:29:54.840 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 1>small size mister goodbars like all the hers She's long Yeah.

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 2>So it was like Halloween in every room.

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>The tiny ones though, and then there was always another

0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>like beautiful candy dish. There would be they were massive

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 1>crystal dishes, silver dishes with candy, always filled like people

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 1>would come over my dad had a meeting or they

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 1>had it, you know, people over and if two were eaten,

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 1>like by the next day, it was refilled. Oh wow,

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 1>is a mound. And then there was another iconic candy

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 1>dish that had the silver almonds. Do you remember those?

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, whoa always silver almonds?

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 1>And then she always had what are the green candles?

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I start with an R off to look.

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 2>At it, green candies or candles.

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Candles one candles. It was a green candle. It was

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>iconic in ladies. Well, I'll look it up, but those

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 1>were out. And then beautiful cigarette holders. I'm sure there's

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 1>some name for them.

0:30:56.240 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 2>People would smoke inside your beautiful home. Yeah, I guess,

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 2>so it didn't stay.

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember. No, I don't remember people ever smoking them,

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 1>except I remember growing up my mom was smoking.

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 2>And she wouldn't go outside.

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:14.040
<v Speaker 1>She did not in the seventies.

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Would she smoked in the bathtub with.

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>This phone in the I always have memories. I'm not

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 1>sure about this. I'll have to ask her. She would

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 1>smoke in the office. I remember that in.

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Her office hers okay, it was her.

0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Office, like the office that the two assistants, one on

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 1>each side, and then there were the two chairs. She

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>would sit there. She would have her cigarettes there. And

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 1>in her bathroom that's the only place I ever remember

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>phone in a drawer.

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:43.360
<v Speaker 2>So out comes of phone and she could take a

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 2>call while in the bath.

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 1>It would be she had it in her vanity like

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>so it was like her beautiful vanity like chair and

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 1>makeup mirror and everything, and a drawer opened up right

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 1>there with her phone, and she would sit at her

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 1>vanity and she had a TV and she would watch

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 1>TV shows and be on her phone. And that was

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of like her get away with her girlfriend. So

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 1>once my dad would go to bed, because he'd usually

0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 1>go to bed early because he had worked. My mom

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>was a night out. My mom would stay up watching

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 1>TV till like three in the morning. But she'd also

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 1>like chat with her girlfriends. So whenever I had and

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 1>this is at our old house. So and then she

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 1>had one at the man or the one before she

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 1>had both. Wow, okay, but like being like that. Oh

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>so the time with the gay chat room, that was

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>definitely at the old house. And my mom she loves.

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Did she get in trouble?

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, I could get in trouble, but I

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 1>was so she liked that I was honest with her

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>at least sure. So I would come in and I'd

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 1>be like, I was confused, and I was like, Mom,

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I asked her what fis fucking was? And she was like,

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 1>and she goes, I had to look it up because

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what fis fucking was? And I wanted

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 1>to give you the right answer in context.

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 2>We even know what it is now you ask Candy spelling.

0:32:57.440 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 2>I just can't.

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I was in fifth grade and then she said, where

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>did you hear that? And I got nervous and then

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my god, it's bad. And I was

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 1>like at school and then she was like, what who

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 1>said this to you at school? And then I was such,

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm so honest, like you know me, like I can't

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 1>lie about anything. It's right on my face. So I

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 1>immediately like was crying. My guy, there's this chat room

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 1>and then she monitored my computer after that and I

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>was not allowed to go into these chat rooms. But

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 1>I guess a gay man thought I was another gay

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 1>man and was like, hey, are you into fist fucking?

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 1>And so I in fifth grade very like I was

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 1>also very altered, crude, but like naive. So I came

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>in and I was like, Mom, I heard a bad word,

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 1>but I'm confused. Can I ask you what it is?

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 1>And she said yes, of course, you can tell me anything.

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>And I said, what is fit fucking? I can see

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 1>it right now. And my mom has big eyes like me,

0:33:57.280 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 1>and she was just like what uh huh. But going

0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 1>then fast forward, I would always tell my mom everything,

0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:09.719
<v Speaker 1>like I would go out with a boy and I'd

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 1>come home. I remember I got picked up once. There

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:15.880
<v Speaker 1>was this guy Will and he went to our brothers school.

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Because I went to an all girls school. I went

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:22.279
<v Speaker 1>to west Lake. He went to Westlake, So he went

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:24.880
<v Speaker 1>to Harvard and he lived in the Palisades.

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I like it.

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I wonder what he looks like now. He was so fine,

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>but he was also that bad boy.

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 2>I love. Only a kid our age, a child of

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 2>the eighties and nineties would say he was so fine.

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:40.359
<v Speaker 1>What do they say now?

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 2>I knew exactly like that, he's so fine.

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:51.320
<v Speaker 1>He was hot, okay, So yeah, long surfer hair, like

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:55.280
<v Speaker 1>surfed on the weekends. Also the guy that like every

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 1>week had a new girlfriend. And it was just a label.

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Like it's not like he did anything. Like my friends

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:03.320
<v Speaker 1>were all pretty prude like me, and you know, I

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 1>was like Donna Martin in real life. So yeah, but

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:10.840
<v Speaker 1>like I was his you know, sweet sixteens were happening

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:12.840
<v Speaker 1>in parties and we were all turning sixteen.

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 2>So and did you sweet sixteen? I did?

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 1>All girls though, Okay, okay, it was a luncheon.

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, you know what, I think I had friends

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 2>that were at your sweet sixteen. Yes, you can't think

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:28.320
<v Speaker 2>of who, but I definitely had a couple, you do,

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:31.840
<v Speaker 2>I definitely because somebody one of my friends from college

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:33.840
<v Speaker 2>was like I was at Torri sweet sixteen. It was

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:37.880
<v Speaker 2>like I can't remember with friend Lisa or Kelly or somebody.

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Will have to play that game later.

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 1>It was my friend group. That's your friend group. That

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 1>was like my little sister in Wesley Leslie Haunt.

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:47.800
<v Speaker 2>But it was like it was was it b wait no,

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 2>oh oh Brook, Oh my god? Wait? Why is her

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:54.240
<v Speaker 2>last name out of my head right now? Graves Graves,

0:35:56.239 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Tiffany Wagner? Oh was it Tiffany Wagner? Totally could have

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 2>been Tiffany, you know Tiffy. She went to correct Yeah, yeah, yeah, but.

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I go into JTD John Thomas Eye Elementary.

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, exactly, exactly.

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Friends in kindergarten. Yeah, anyway, okay, we're oh so well.

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh he was so hot. Sorry. So I was like

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 1>every month he had a new girlfriend, he would just

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 1>like go through all of us and like, you know,

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 1>we did nothing besides kiss him and like I put

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:23.800
<v Speaker 1>water polo. That's a week later, and so I was

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 1>his girl, Like I was the chosen girl of the month.

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 1>And I asked my mom, like can I go out

0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:31.479
<v Speaker 1>with him? I wasn't you know what, I hadn't gotten

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:34.800
<v Speaker 1>my license yet, so I couldn't drive. I was before sixteen.

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:37.400
<v Speaker 1>And then He came and picked me up, and my

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 1>mom was very like concerned, Like my mom always waited

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:40.799
<v Speaker 1>up for.

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Me the old house, so he weren't at the manor yet,

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 2>so he came to the other mansion. But it wasn't

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 2>quite as crazy, right.

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:50.320
<v Speaker 1>He picked me up in his car and took me

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>somewhere for tacos. It was like a taco stand where

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 1>he ordered a taco, paid for it, and then came

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 1>back and he's like, are you going to order something?

0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 1>And I was just like so confused that he wasn't

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 1>like he came from money and it wasn't.

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:04.840
<v Speaker 2>I just you know.

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I watched all the movies like the boy was supposed

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:09.319
<v Speaker 1>to pick the girl up. He was supposed to take

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:11.719
<v Speaker 1>her out and buy her dinner, and I was so

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:13.400
<v Speaker 1>nervous to eat in front of guys. I was like,

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:15.960
<v Speaker 1>no thanks, I'm actually not hungry. So I sat there

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and watched her like starving chow down on his taco.

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:23.200
<v Speaker 1>And anyway, that was our first date, concerned my mom.

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Our second date, his parents were out of town, and

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 1>he was like, do you want to go watch me

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:27.919
<v Speaker 1>surf Saturday morning?

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 2>I was like, done be a surfer or a water

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:31.560
<v Speaker 2>polo player. I called that. I knew it.

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:33.799
<v Speaker 1>I was like, this guy's got So he like picked

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:35.320
<v Speaker 1>me up with six ades and he took me to

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 1>the beach, just like left me on the beach while

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:39.359
<v Speaker 1>he was surfing with buddies. And here's you know, I'm

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:42.120
<v Speaker 1>like not knowing, not a beach girl, like Beverly Hills girl.

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:43.839
<v Speaker 1>And I was like just sitting on like I don't

0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 1>even think. He gave me a towel to sit on,

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:47.360
<v Speaker 1>and I was like okay, cool, Oh my gosh, this

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:50.760
<v Speaker 1>is great, and watched him sir and started.

0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:54.480
<v Speaker 2>A long line of Tory's future boyfriend had boyfriends. Yeah.

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 1>And then he took me home and he's like, cool,

0:37:57.200 --> 0:37:58.839
<v Speaker 1>my parents are out of town, so I'm gonna pick

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:00.480
<v Speaker 1>you up tonight and we're gonn to go back to

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:02.800
<v Speaker 1>my house and watch a movie. I'm like okay. So

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 1>we went back to his house and he like I

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 1>was like ready for the movie, and he was like

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to make out, and I was like, okay, We're.

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:10.239
<v Speaker 2>Going to Netflix and chill.

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, way back then. So I got home and my

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I was all excited and my mom's like, so what happened?

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 1>And so I tell her everything, and she was just like, well,

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll never forget this, you know, the saying

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 1>why buy the milk if you get the cow for free?

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 1>And I was like what, Mom, I just kissed him

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 1>like and she's like, well, that's this sounds like that's

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 1>all he wants and that's where this is going. Well

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 1>it didn't matter because the next weekend I was sick

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 1>and instead he went to a party and I didn't

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:44.840
<v Speaker 1>go and he made out with my best friend instead

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:46.880
<v Speaker 1>and then so that was it. So we had a

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:49.800
<v Speaker 1>short run. But I used to tell my mom everything

0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:52.319
<v Speaker 1>and if you love them, let them go, if they're

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:53.279
<v Speaker 1>meant to be, they'll come.

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Back to oh them.

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 1>You always give me these giines that have stayed with me.

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 1>And I found myself like thinking you seeing them on

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:04.320
<v Speaker 1>your of course, yeah, but like I'll be like my

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 1>mom said, So I know it's an equated phrase, but

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:08.080
<v Speaker 1>it does make sense.

0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh my all right, So okay, we have so

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:15.400
<v Speaker 2>much to cover. Let's segue for a moment. I have

0:39:15.480 --> 0:39:18.360
<v Speaker 2>a little game about the manor. I would like to

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 2>name a celebrity, some celebrities, and then you tell me

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:25.200
<v Speaker 2>if they came to the manor and if you have

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:27.040
<v Speaker 2>a memory or thought of them, and.

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:30.120
<v Speaker 1>If they've been to the house before, that count that house.

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:33.799
<v Speaker 1>Tell us yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll just call that one BM. Yeah,

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 1>not thou movement before Manner.

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Heather Locklay, Yes, so she came to the house like,

0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 2>and did you guys have a big holiday party where

0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:46.719
<v Speaker 2>like was there ever a party where like everybody was there?

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 2>All these names I'm about.

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:52.400
<v Speaker 1>To ask you about, not all, but the iconic party

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 1>yearly was my parents through a Christmas Eve party and

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 1>those Christmas party.

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:03.280
<v Speaker 2>They were the Kardashians before the Kardashians.

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:09.360
<v Speaker 1>It we you just hit it on shirt? Was it

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 1>my mom? If you got invited to those?

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh people, Kardashians are kind of famous for throwing their

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Christmas Eve party.

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:22.320
<v Speaker 1>That's It's exactly what. It was a smaller scale and

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 1>it got bigger. It was more like family and friends,

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, at the BM house, and then at the

0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:32.759
<v Speaker 1>Manner it was like crazy whoa. I mean you would

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:36.359
<v Speaker 1>read all these steps and there'd be like fifty five

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:41.080
<v Speaker 1>foot like nutcrackers lining the steps and all of these.

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:46.799
<v Speaker 2>Celebrities so like John Forsyth, Oh yeah, oh my god.

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:48.879
<v Speaker 2>So and was there ever a party where like all

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:52.720
<v Speaker 2>these different people like Farah Fawcett or Jacqueline Smith.

0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, of course. But yeah, my dad was really

0:40:57.280 --> 0:41:00.320
<v Speaker 1>close to all of his stars. But the ones I

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 1>remember which are the ones during my like nine o

0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:09.320
<v Speaker 1>two and oh years. Okay, It's interesting because those Christmas

0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Eve parties, while he was so close to his entire cats,

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:16.880
<v Speaker 1>only Mason and Luke were ever invited to the Christmas

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:18.439
<v Speaker 1>parties from nine two.

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh, not Shannon.

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Shannon never came. Shannon would have been included.

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 2>Because she's she like spent the night there. I feel

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 2>like she would.

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:30.320
<v Speaker 1>She was always with me, so that she had to

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:32.080
<v Speaker 1>have been included, and maybe there was a reason she

0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 1>she was with her.

0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:36.319
<v Speaker 2>For lack of a better way to say it would

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:39.760
<v Speaker 2>the old timers also always still be invited, like Gavin

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:44.480
<v Speaker 2>or Ricardo montalbon No.

0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:47.360
<v Speaker 1>It changed well. He kept in touch with all of

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 1>his celebrities all his starts. The Christmas Eve party was

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 1>always updated to the current situation on television.

0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Whoa WHOA right, because the party would be like five

0:41:57.800 --> 0:41:59.319
<v Speaker 2>hundred people deep, I mean like.

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 1>No mmm, so like even it would be like one

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 1>hundred people that would be Max. Maybe not. So it

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 1>wasn't like, no, it was decorated for like I mean,

0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 1>she mustn't hundreds of thousands spent on this party, but

0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 1>the people know, not even one hundred, maybe not even fifty.

0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:20.840
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't very intimate.

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:24.520
<v Speaker 2>Group, more like executives or the cat Yes, but more

0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:29.400
<v Speaker 2>like executives. Yeah, so like Brandon Tartakov. I don't know,

0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:31.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm making up names that I might like, pull out

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:33.440
<v Speaker 2>whoever ranc.

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Ebc at the time, of course, whoever ran Fox? Of course?

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yes, yes, whoa Robert Wagner hurt to heart.

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:44.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think they he was. My dad was

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 1>very very close with Robert when I was younger. It's

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 1>so that was BM before.

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:57.839
<v Speaker 2>Did you ever like, I mean, if you just were

0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 2>around so many these celebrities, was it just kind of

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 2>like you're so used to it? Like was there ever

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:06.000
<v Speaker 2>a did a president ever come to the house? Are

0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 2>like a governor or somebody like a politician that you

0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:10.600
<v Speaker 2>can remember?

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like politicians ever. No, It's more like

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 1>my dad was really good friends with Reagan because they

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:20.920
<v Speaker 1>grew up entertainment. They worked together, they came up and

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:22.279
<v Speaker 1>through theater together, and.

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:25.479
<v Speaker 2>Like they didn't live far from you either. I feel

0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:27.040
<v Speaker 2>like they weren't they in bel Air?

0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Also maybe I think, I mean we definitely when he

0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:32.720
<v Speaker 1>was in office went to the White House?

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:35.120
<v Speaker 2>And how did you guys get there? Take the train?

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:35.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh, can you remember going to the White House?

0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I can, oh.

0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 2>That.

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:45.320
<v Speaker 1>You're so cute My brother and I like at the

0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:45.799
<v Speaker 1>White House.

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:47.920
<v Speaker 2>A weird question, but like would you figure out what

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 2>to wear? Would your mom help you know what to wear?

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Or did like a nanny say, like I've laid out

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:54.840
<v Speaker 2>your dress for the White House. How would you know

0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:55.479
<v Speaker 2>what to wear?

0:43:56.320 --> 0:43:59.800
<v Speaker 1>My mom? My mom? Would your mom did out my outfit?

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:02.759
<v Speaker 1>It's so funny, my mom, I'm trying to It was

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 1>a bond went teller. Do you no?

0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:04.400
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember this place?

0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:08.600
<v Speaker 2>I just remember like Dotty Doolittle, like I remember these

0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of like there was a very specific when I

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 2>was a little little there was a dress in my mom.

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:16.239
<v Speaker 1>Loved it was like the puff sleeves, yeah, the peter

0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Pan collar, the tie, you know, bow around the waist,

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:25.239
<v Speaker 1>short dress. I'd wear Marry Jane's Mary Jane's fold over

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:28.759
<v Speaker 1>socks with lace. Yes, sir, I had this outfit and

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:33.960
<v Speaker 1>my mom granted, you know, back then they dressed their

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 1>little girls and all frills and stuff. There wasn't cool

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 1>clothing like there is now for little girls. But I

0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 1>remember this dress when I mean it went up to

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:45.480
<v Speaker 1>size fourteen, so I remember at some point I had

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<v Speaker 1>to have that. It was a hard conversation, say, Mom,

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<v Speaker 1>I love this dress too, but you know it was

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<v Speaker 1>cute in three t it was adorable in five to tea.

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<v Speaker 1>But now we're at nine te not even tea, not

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<v Speaker 1>toddler anymore. Now we're at size ten twelve. I'm twelve

0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:02.879
<v Speaker 1>years old. Like I shouldn't be wearing this dress anymorek mom,

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:06.160
<v Speaker 1>man move on to something more sophisticated. She was like, oh,

0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:09.000
<v Speaker 1>but you look so great in this stress. I would

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<v Speaker 1>have the fact then there was like the baby so

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<v Speaker 1>you would have a white version, a baby yellow version,

0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:17.800
<v Speaker 1>a light pink version, a light blue version, everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, do you remember a spree?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, because a spree changed my life. Remember you shop

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<v Speaker 1>They have them out the shopping carts.

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<v Speaker 2>The spree outlet. At the spree outlet, you would literally

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<v Speaker 2>it was in San Francisco. I don't know if there

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<v Speaker 2>was another one. There was a shopping cart and load

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<v Speaker 2>up your clothes into a shopping cart. They was going

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:39.480
<v Speaker 2>to try them on, and then you'd check out. And

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<v Speaker 2>then we had the Spree Cafe and the food was delicious.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh see, then after you went to the Spree outlet.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember like this bully in eighth grade when

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<v Speaker 2>I was in the seventh grade like making fun of me, like, hey, Amy,

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<v Speaker 2>like been to the is Spree outlent lately? Because I

0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 2>like would just always wear a Spree. I was like, whatever,

0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:00.919
<v Speaker 2>check like, I don't have a wall. My mom buys

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<v Speaker 2>my clothes, like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. I think rs Spree was on Los

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<v Speaker 1>Sienaga and it wasn't the outlet it it's a real store.

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<v Speaker 1>It was huge and I want to staying cards also

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<v Speaker 1>they did. I want to say, it's where the Beverly

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<v Speaker 1>Center is now like before that, and before that was

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<v Speaker 1>Flippers where I had my eighth birthday roller skating party,

0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:25.319
<v Speaker 1>and then it turned into Sweet. Oh it wasn't where

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<v Speaker 1>the Beverly Center is. There's a CVS there now. It's huge,

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<v Speaker 1>a huge one that was abs.

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<v Speaker 2>It was kind of across the street right yes, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my gosh, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had my next question, she picks up my outfit. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>at the White House and on Tory brand. Of course.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. We went to every room and I was

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<v Speaker 1>very excited and very proper, and we got to have

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<v Speaker 1>lunch with missus Reagan and then afterwards they had like

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<v Speaker 1>the staff dining, and I was really excited to go there.

0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:57.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm really excited to hang out with the staff and

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<v Speaker 1>have lunch with them because I was scared to eat. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>on brand, that's where I fit in. And I was like, yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel comfortable. And I was like talking and felt

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<v Speaker 1>like wanted and yeah, my gosh okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So my next I've got some sort of rapid fire questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Your favorite room in the manner Oh and you can

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<v Speaker 2>only have one go so.

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<v Speaker 1>M okay, it's I mean, it's either the bar downstairs

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<v Speaker 1>that expands the bar, just because all my friends and

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<v Speaker 1>I would.

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<v Speaker 2>Have downstairs, like where the bowling alley was bar, right,

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<v Speaker 2>the one that you could like come bop.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of the wall into or something from the bowling alley. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>it had the big fish tank aquarium. My dad always

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<v Speaker 1>had a lionfish. He would love to show if he

0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:51.360
<v Speaker 1>had one in his office, a fish tank always, and

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<v Speaker 1>one in our house.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't picture. Did you guys ever have a dog?

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't picture a dog?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no way. And they were always poodle are Beijeon frisays,

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<v Speaker 1>Except once we had a mutt because he started with

0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:06.200
<v Speaker 1>me on Fantasy Island and my dad let me keep him.

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<v Speaker 2>Pepper, my god, So you always had a dog and

0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 2>the dog could just cruise this whole fifty thousand square

0:48:10.640 --> 0:48:13.880
<v Speaker 2>foot house just as it had its will. Oh my god. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Next question, least favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>Room in the house doll music.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah yeah. Next, did you ever pee in

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<v Speaker 2>the pool? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I always feed in the pool, so yeah, yeah,