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Speaker 2: I am very excited because we barely like touch the surface?
Speaker 2: Is that? How is that the right saying? It's like,
Speaker 2: I have so much more to ask about the manner.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many surfaces that's to touch there.
Speaker 2: So yeah, So I want to begin by asking you
Speaker 2: this question, which we may have sort of talked about.
Speaker 2: You know, I know that the house before was sort
Speaker 2: of what you really consider your growing up house. But
Speaker 2: I'd love for you to start today just by explaining,
Speaker 2: like when you think back about the mannor, do you
Speaker 2: feel happy, do you feel warm? What do you feel?
Speaker 1: I feel nothing. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. No,
Speaker 1: person a delby thing. I'm still on it. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna let go that sound by it for a while.
Speaker 1: It's just it's like the new Demure. No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I feel lots of things tell me everything when I
Speaker 1: think about you know what, when I think about it,
Speaker 1: I think my joy and excitement about it comes from
Speaker 1: the outside world's joy and excitement because it was everybody's fantasy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's almost a little bit of a version of
Speaker 1: nine O two and oh that when I meet people,
Speaker 1: I see their excitement, the light in their eyes when
Speaker 1: they ask about the manner, So that in some way
Speaker 1: brings me joy and makes me feel closer to it.
Speaker 1: But I hear you, so if I were to totally
Speaker 1: remove anybody else's view of the.
Speaker 2: Manner, I really just want to know Tori's feelings, like
Speaker 2: that teenage tory to the adult tory. Now, do I
Speaker 2: feel sad? Happy?
Speaker 1: I don't go sad.
Speaker 2: Tell me I don't feel happy?
Speaker 1: What would I feel? I'm trying, really, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: like tap into feelings for a second. You know, it's
Speaker 1: a hard one for me.
Speaker 2: Okay, we've got nothing but time.
Speaker 1: How long do you guys have I'm trying to find
Speaker 1: as long.
Speaker 2: As it takes for me to sort of because I
Speaker 2: think there's something in there.
Speaker 1: There's something there. I think we've talked about this before
Speaker 1: because we're good friends that I a lot of my
Speaker 1: life kind of gets unlocked when I talk about it.
Speaker 1: When I started writing my books and when I tell
Speaker 1: the stories, and you know, sometimes we'll be talking and
Speaker 1: a story comes to me and I haven't tapped into
Speaker 1: that memory in twenty thirty forty years. So that's what
Speaker 1: it is. When I think about the manner, I'm like,
Speaker 1: where are the feelings? What is it? I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: so perhaps it'll come out during this.
Speaker 2: But you know what's weird is like it actually concerns
Speaker 2: me as your friend that you feel nothing, because that's
Speaker 2: very tory ish, right, like block the hard stuff for
Speaker 2: you know, have a wall up or don't feel. Don't
Speaker 2: feel because this is like where your family lived, and
Speaker 2: I know that you have cozier, sort of warmer memories
Speaker 2: of the house prior, but it's like this was where
Speaker 2: you spent time for many years, even if you didn't
Speaker 2: live there. It's where you went for the holidays. It's
Speaker 2: is it where your dad passed away?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was just about to say that, I
Speaker 1: think when I think of the Manner, my final memory
Speaker 1: is being there after his funeral. It was the last
Speaker 1: time I saw him, a couple of weeks before he passed.
Speaker 1: Father's Day, I believe was the last time I saw
Speaker 1: him that year, and then he passed away. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's more locked into my memories. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I lost my dad there. Yeah, I think it's that.
Speaker 2: Gets that gave me chills a little bit. It's like,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't blame me if you were like I hate
Speaker 2: that house.
Speaker 1: I don't hate it. I love it, like I really
Speaker 1: do love it. Its I was gonna say it has
Speaker 1: a special little place in my heart, has a special
Speaker 1: big place, like obviously it's ginormous. You know what was
Speaker 1: great though, that before my mom sold it, I got
Speaker 1: to take my kids there and only Liam and Stella
Speaker 1: were alive. I believe I have to go way back
Speaker 1: kid count, but I was happy they got to see,
Speaker 1: like where I kind of grew up. And it was
Speaker 1: weird at that point because it was pretty much all empty.
Speaker 1: And my mom gave me my dad's typewriter, which is
Speaker 1: something that was really important to me and something I
Speaker 1: cherish because I'm so much like him, so I love
Speaker 1: having that piece of him. But yeah, that's crazy like
Speaker 1: that my kids now, like I wish they could go
Speaker 1: there now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I have a question about that. But I
Speaker 2: want to dig into this a little bit more, Like
Speaker 2: when you think about it is what comes to this
Speaker 2: was like we left that house, my dad passed away there.
Speaker 2: Maybe your mom had extreme sadness there because this was
Speaker 2: her dream, and then she she moved because she.
Speaker 1: Lost your father probably, yes, yes, and yes.
Speaker 2: Well tell me. And I'm also feeling.
Speaker 1: Like I want, I want to connect that house with
Speaker 1: my dad because that's the last place I saw him.
Speaker 1: But I feel like my dad that wasn't his dream house.
Speaker 1: He liked smaller and cozier. You know. The first house
Speaker 1: we lived in he probably that was probably too big.
Speaker 1: He didn't even go through all the rooms in that house.
Speaker 1: He was just as ginormous a public figure he was.
Speaker 1: He was really, deep down a simple man, and I
Speaker 1: think I carry a lot of that with me and
Speaker 1: I love that part. So it was like the opposite
Speaker 1: of anything he ever wanted, you know. So I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think, you know, I guess the I guess because
Speaker 1: by the time we moved there, my dad was getting
Speaker 1: older and then he went through cancer, which he survived,
Speaker 1: but he was sick a lot, And I think I
Speaker 1: connect that house with him being sick and being in
Speaker 1: his bedroom a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, if we.
Speaker 1: Really wanted any time with my dad after we were
Speaker 1: at that house, I mean not, I guess it's later on.
Speaker 1: We had some great memories with my dad, like him
Speaker 1: in the bowling alley and serving up drinks to my
Speaker 1: friends and my brother's friends and I and like going
Speaker 1: to the Playboy Mansion having like the after party with
Speaker 1: my dad there, and he'd go to the parties at
Speaker 1: the Playboy Mansion with us, Like he was awesome. But
Speaker 1: if I think of like the final chapter of his life,
Speaker 1: it was, you know, mostly just in his bedroom, and
Speaker 1: like you would go in and like get in bed
Speaker 1: with him and hang out, and he would be watching
Speaker 1: his football games and stuff, and we would talk about
Speaker 1: shows and stuff. He always talking about you know, that
Speaker 1: was my dad, always talking about work, but in a
Speaker 1: good way because I love talking about that stuff. So
Speaker 1: I have those memories. But yeah, actually, like the house,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm trying so numb to it, do you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Like, And again I don't want to be
Speaker 2: like a therapist to you, but like you see, I'm
Speaker 2: a little numb where you're like, which is fine too.
Speaker 2: It's a house.
Speaker 1: We go there and have like a seance or something.
Speaker 2: I'd love to go there so bad, But I wonder
Speaker 2: if you had pain associated with that loss that you've
Speaker 2: never dealt with so much.
Speaker 1: I mean, I got to tell you, and I don't
Speaker 1: think I've told many people this. I really never dealt
Speaker 1: with the death of my father.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have it. I don't think you have either.
Speaker 1: No, which I'd like to at some point, like that's
Speaker 1: really important and key. But it was like the most
Speaker 1: important human in my life passed away, and it came
Speaker 1: at a time where our family was a bit disjointed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a time when I had just left my first marriage,
Speaker 1: just started my second marriage. It was it was supposed
Speaker 1: to be like the happiest time my life, but then boom,
Speaker 1: it was the saddest time in my life. You know.
Speaker 1: Dean and I had just gotten married and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it was like my dad passed away.
Speaker 1: And then a month later we conceived Liam, and it
Speaker 1: was just everything happened at once.
Speaker 2: It makes me want to cry for you.
Speaker 1: I had no choice. We all we always have choices.
Speaker 1: But I think for me, it happened and it was
Speaker 1: like it was so hard that I mean, I believe
Speaker 1: it was like a week or two weeks after my
Speaker 1: dad passed, maybe less. I went into production on a movie.
Speaker 1: So I had a TV movie that Deane and I
Speaker 1: were doing, not the one we met on, but with
Speaker 1: the same production company. We had put this whole thing
Speaker 1: back together with the same production company, the same director.
Speaker 1: We were going back to the same place, to Ottawa,
Speaker 1: which is where we met and fell in love, to
Speaker 1: do a new movie. I was ep on that movie.
Speaker 1: I had taken on kind of the role of everything
Speaker 1: I was. I did wardrobe for it, like shopped all
Speaker 1: my wardrobe. It was intense.
Speaker 2: Although simultaneously to when your dad had passed.
Speaker 1: Away, well, my dad passed unexpectedly from complications of a stroke.
Speaker 1: So it all happened in a short amount of time,
Speaker 1: and the show was planned. I was supposed to leave.
Speaker 1: And then also it all happened at the same time
Speaker 1: that So Notorious, which is the show that was loosely
Speaker 1: based in my life, not so loosely scripted show that
Speaker 1: I had also created and was on VH one, and
Speaker 1: I was so proud of and it was like a
Speaker 1: high point. I was like, this is it, you know,
Speaker 1: I climbed back up that mountain. It got canceled after
Speaker 1: one season, had massive, you know, great critic reviews. Was
Speaker 1: a game changer. In that platform of hybrid TV, of
Speaker 1: scripted reality, and all of a sudden it just VH one.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the right place, and it was great, and
Speaker 1: they gave us such creative license and they were great partners,
Speaker 1: but it was you know, people were still into reality
Speaker 1: and hadn't made that jump in and descripted in their territory,
Speaker 1: and it just didn't land. And anyway that was canceled.
Speaker 2: Wasn't it kind of curb your enthusiasmy Like yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: kind of like that, yeah, and that got canceled.
Speaker 1: So it's like it was like hit after hit after hit,
Speaker 1: good bad, good bad. And then I'd had this movie
Speaker 1: slated to go film and my dad passed. I couldn't
Speaker 1: let an entire production down. I remember ruth Anna and
Speaker 1: I talking about it and I literally like was like, no,
Speaker 1: you know, my dad would always say show must go on,
Speaker 1: got on a plane, went to Canada and filmed it
Speaker 1: and literally, I think a week after my dad died.
Speaker 1: So I've never grieved my father. You haven't the rest
Speaker 1: of the manner. We just I just uncovered a huge
Speaker 1: secret from Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll still keep talking about the house, but
Speaker 2: I want to talk about this. It's like it feels
Speaker 2: like two things to me. And again we're close, so
Speaker 2: you can shut me up or maybe feel it. Work work, work, work, work,
Speaker 2: work work. You say, you're so much like your dad,
Speaker 2: which is exactly how your dad coped, and work work work, work, work, work, work,
Speaker 2: and you get tons of joy from that. But like,
Speaker 2: this is the patriarch of your family, and I don't
Speaker 2: use that word lightly, Like your father was a true patriarch,
Speaker 2: not just to you all, but like everybody that we
Speaker 2: talked to, Aaron Spelling, Aaron Spelling, Aaron Spelling, like he
Speaker 2: he means so much to all these people that were
Speaker 2: on all these shows, but he was your daddy, do
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, and I know, like
Speaker 2: this is your guy and you're so much like him,
Speaker 2: and like I want to cry. So if I want
Speaker 2: to cry, it must be in you somewhere, because I
Speaker 2: think you just work work, work, work work, And then
Speaker 2: you had sort of chaos, right like yeah, new marriage,
Speaker 2: the tabloids, a baby working like that, you didn't get
Speaker 2: to grieve this person who I would argue was the
Speaker 2: most important person in your entire life. Correct, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: so sorry, Like it makes me sad for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what's what's up next for work? I'm just
Speaker 1: kidda gosh, yeah, do you miss him?
Speaker 2: Like, what would you I don't know, like what would
Speaker 2: make you maybe feel like you actually, I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe you feel maybe you feel connected to him, maybe
Speaker 2: maybe you did deal with it in the way you
Speaker 2: deal with it. I don't pretend to judge that you don't.
Speaker 1: Deal with anything. And you know that I don't deal
Speaker 1: with pain and loss, and I think, look at me,
Speaker 1: I want to be like thinking, you know, back to me,
Speaker 1: my problems are so much less than everybody else's, you know.
Speaker 1: I always want to say that, No, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say about this time. I've dealt with so much pain
Speaker 1: and loss, you know, personally and professionally my whole life,
Speaker 1: that I just am so conditioned to compartmentalize it and
Speaker 1: move on. Here's you know, one week ago dancing with
Speaker 1: the stars. You know who would have thought, you know,
Speaker 1: And then I went home and it's just like, oh
Speaker 1: my god. And then I was like, I'm fine, you know,
Speaker 1: because this is just what I do. And I, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm so used to disappointment that I just move on.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're allowed to be sad. I have friends
Speaker 2: who lost their fathers, right. I have a girlfriend, one
Speaker 2: of my best friends in kindergarten, who lost her father
Speaker 2: twenty plus years ago, and she says and tears come
Speaker 2: all the time when we talk about him. And she says,
Speaker 2: there's tears like right here at all times, like right
Speaker 2: under her skin, on the surface, so that she could
Speaker 2: be cry, not necessarily like devastated crime, but like missing him.
Speaker 2: Tears every day now, some days she chooses not to.
Speaker 2: Someday she doesn't. Like many people say, like you have
Speaker 2: your life before you lose a parent, and after you
Speaker 2: don't have to be fine. Like, I don't know. That's
Speaker 2: to me. And again I'm not trying to psycho analyze
Speaker 2: what that f do I know, but like it feels
Speaker 2: like you're numb to the feelings of the house because
Speaker 2: you're like numb to the feelings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm numb to my entire life. Like
Speaker 1: it's not just the manner, it'd be the house before that,
Speaker 1: it'd have my childhood. It's yeah, I mean, for sure,
Speaker 1: my tears are there. There's not a day that I
Speaker 1: don't not think of my dad. I think of him
Speaker 1: all day long, But I guess my tears are not
Speaker 1: there at the surface, they're like deep down attached to
Speaker 1: my bones.
Speaker 2: Well, and you always have to because so many people
Speaker 2: bring your dad up to all the time. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: almost like you have to put on that brave face
Speaker 2: because people want to share their memory. I mean, we've
Speaker 2: had so many Your dad made my career, your dad
Speaker 2: did this for me. Your dad looked out for me.
Speaker 2: I had a problem and your dad took care of it.
Speaker 2: That you don't want to be like I miss that me, but.
Speaker 1: Like he was your dad. It's always liked people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like other people take him because they
Speaker 2: have their own thing that you don't feel like that
Speaker 2: was your dad.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm worried enough to accept that
Speaker 1: I can own that completely. Yeah, yeah, be right.
Speaker 2: I deserve that.
Speaker 1: I was his only daughter. I was like the total
Speaker 1: daddy's girls, the daddy's girl, like you know, from the
Speaker 1: time I was little, you do those projects in school,
Speaker 1: like my hero, you know, it was always my dad,
Speaker 1: like all throughout, you know, my entire academic existence, and
Speaker 1: you know, and then beyond that, like who's your hero?
Speaker 1: Who do you wish one person? You could have one
Speaker 1: moment back with who do you want to dedicate something
Speaker 1: to you? It's always my dad. It's always going to
Speaker 1: be my dad. Who do you want to be the
Speaker 1: most proud of you? Well, my mom, dude, But you
Speaker 1: always want your parents to be proud of you. But
Speaker 1: my dad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sorry lost him. Yeah, I'm so sorry. And
Speaker 2: you were so young, and I understand. He had an
Speaker 2: amazing life and he lived to be How old was
Speaker 2: your dad when he passed away?
Speaker 1: Eighty two?
Speaker 2: Right, he had like this magnificent life, but he was
Speaker 2: older when he had you, so you've got less years
Speaker 2: with him. Yeah, you must miss him, and like, I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: It's like I would like to find a way to
Speaker 1: access the feelings because I think you know me, I'm
Speaker 1: good with memories, so in my head I can see
Speaker 1: everything and every moment with him and hear every conversation
Speaker 1: and watch it play out like his TV shows, but
Speaker 1: there's not complete feelings attached to that, just like when
Speaker 1: a TV show is created. He did a brilliant job.
Speaker 1: I do a great job when I create TV shows,
Speaker 1: Like we put it out there and except for you
Speaker 1: to interpret it using your feelings, so I can watch
Speaker 1: all of my life in my head, but I have
Speaker 1: not completely accessed my feelings for them. That's what's happened.
Speaker 2: You're watching it from like outside, like you watch a TV.
Speaker 1: Show, Like the entire world has watched my life. Correct,
Speaker 1: So I would love to find a way to dive
Speaker 1: in and because I feel like it's not the answer
Speaker 1: to all my problems, but it would really help me
Speaker 1: kind of move on, yeah, and be able to be
Speaker 1: a best version of me if I could be able
Speaker 1: to access my feelings from my childhood. So if you
Speaker 1: know someone that knows someone that knows someone.
Speaker 2: And I think we got of plenty of actual therapists,
Speaker 2: and I'm I apologize that I'm the one here sort
Speaker 2: of having the conversation, but it does feel.
Speaker 1: Like oddly enough makes sense, Like you know, you're one
Speaker 1: of my friends that's willing to go there with me.
Speaker 2: You know, Well, it feels like your life was a
Speaker 2: little bit steadier when Aaron Spelling was here, Like it wasn't.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it was perfect, right, but it feels
Speaker 2: like he passed and there's chaos, like the show was
Speaker 2: canceled and I'm pregnant and I'm married, and you know,
Speaker 2: just so much for you to suddenly have to deal
Speaker 2: with that would have been those things. I mean, I
Speaker 2: call my dad the other day because something was wrong
Speaker 2: with my taxes. And I call my dad because I'm like, uh,
Speaker 2: what am I supposed to do with this key? Do
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, like, it doesn't matter
Speaker 2: that I'm fifty. We call our dads, right.
Speaker 1: He wasn't that guy though?
Speaker 2: Did you ever call him to be like, hey, I
Speaker 2: don't know how to write a check or I don't
Speaker 2: know what.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that guy? Uh?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: No? I would call him and he would we would
Speaker 1: talk about the dogs and how my dogs were his
Speaker 1: dogs were, and I would say, hi, Daddy, high Toto
Speaker 1: and we would Yeah, we didn't talk about that.
Speaker 2: Why are you do so many things with Toto?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: To O t O?
Speaker 1: And I know everyone says, is it the dog or
Speaker 1: the band? No? No, he called me I was little
Speaker 1: because I guess when I was little, I couldn't say
Speaker 1: my name, so I was like sook cute to toe?
Speaker 1: So yeah, but I capital T lowercase O capital T
Speaker 1: lower case is how he always wrote it in notes
Speaker 1: to me. He always bring me like handwritten notes, So yeah,
Speaker 1: and he didn't like to talk about. I remember once
Speaker 1: my uncle Danny, who lived in near you before he passed.
Speaker 1: Where did I tell you to live Mariten County?
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, beautiful? Yes.
Speaker 1: So whenever he would come visit, and my dad's brother
Speaker 1: and the brothers very close. And Uncle Danny was more
Speaker 1: like the father type. He would always call me every
Speaker 1: week and be like, what's going on with school? What's
Speaker 1: going on with boys? You know? He would always like
Speaker 1: ask the questions that my dad didn't want to talk about.
Speaker 1: And I remember him coming to visit and asking across
Speaker 1: the dinner table at the Manor. We were in the
Speaker 1: breakfast room. So it was the round table that's distinguished
Speaker 1: it from the rectangular table and the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the cozier table, and it was on
Speaker 2: the table it was yeah.
Speaker 1: It's still you know. Each of the tables had a
Speaker 1: button underneath that my mom would silently someone saw when
Speaker 1: she wanted, you know, everyone was done, she would assess
Speaker 1: the button.
Speaker 2: It's so funny that you bring that up. So I learned,
Speaker 2: you know, and fifteen twenty years ago that my dad
Speaker 2: growing up, they also had one of those buttons that
Speaker 2: my my papa for some reason. I think there's was
Speaker 2: on the floor, but I don't know. Maybe it was
Speaker 2: on the table. I was gobsmacked when I learned, because
Speaker 2: I didn't grow up like that, right, I'm not pretending
Speaker 2: I grew up. I'm so grateful. I was very privileged,
Speaker 2: but I did not grow up like you did or
Speaker 2: my dad did with this button. I couldn't fathom it.
Speaker 2: So basically for people listening, like wealthy people had this button,
Speaker 2: and that meant the table would be cleared, right, someone
Speaker 2: would come out and either bring out the meal or
Speaker 2: clear the table. Is that right?
Speaker 1: You're blowing my mind right now, because I didn't know
Speaker 1: this was a thing. I mean my mom My mom
Speaker 1: is like a DIY creative genius with things, but.
Speaker 2: I thought she created No, it was actually I think
Speaker 2: that my dad's you know, my dad was a kid,
Speaker 2: but my papa, I always envisioned it on the floor.
Speaker 2: But I don't that seems strange. I'm gonna have to
Speaker 2: ask him. But there definitely was a button, but they
Speaker 2: very rarely ate in the dining room. Also, they ate
Speaker 2: in the kitchen like you guys did, but they didn't
Speaker 2: have a button in the kitchen before.
Speaker 1: I forget the proper dining room which had the twenty
Speaker 1: person or twenty five people rectangular table. Yes, there was
Speaker 1: a button in there as well to call to let
Speaker 1: the butler know, like time to clear, the plates, were
Speaker 1: ready for the second course or whatever. My mom also
Speaker 1: designed the room, and my mom and dad like Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: and Christmas would blow people's minds that would come over
Speaker 1: because I'm not good with how far away it was.
Speaker 1: But keep in mind a twenty five person table. So
Speaker 1: she would be at one end, he would be at
Speaker 1: the other, and they could just look up and he
Speaker 1: could go, hi, honey and ask her a question. She
Speaker 1: would say something. And she designed the room that the
Speaker 1: way the ceiling was done that you could hear each other. No,
Speaker 1: I'm weird. I'm not even sure how to say it.
Speaker 1: I wish I knew.
Speaker 2: No, I get what you're saying. There was some sort
Speaker 2: of a thing. I thought there was going to be
Speaker 2: a TV monitor. So did they each have a button
Speaker 2: or was that? Did your mom handle that like you're.
Speaker 1: My mom handled that? So you know what?
Speaker 2: It reminds me of. Have you seen the original batman.
Speaker 1: Who sticks in the ceiling? Is that who sticks?
Speaker 2: So I'm picturing there's a scene in Batman where Michael
Speaker 2: Keaton and Kim Bexinger bass singer, how you say that name?
Speaker 2: Basinger sitting in this you know he's Wayne manor like
Speaker 2: like your manner, and they're at the opposite sides of
Speaker 2: the table. They can't even talk to each other. And
Speaker 2: I remember like they grabbed their soups or whatever and
Speaker 2: went into the kitchen to eat in there, same kind
Speaker 2: of thing where you're like, and then I remember Michael Keaton,
Speaker 2: Bruce Wayne Batman. She says something about the room and
Speaker 2: he's like, I don't think I've ever been in here before.
Speaker 2: And it's like seems so crazy in the movie, but
Speaker 2: like you're like those Bruce Wayne. So anyway, go back
Speaker 2: to uncle.
Speaker 1: Danly So, Uncle Danny So in the breakfast room round
Speaker 1: table and he comes to visit for the weekend, and
Speaker 1: so he looks across the table and he's like, keep
Speaker 1: in mind, I'm not a young girl. I'm like in
Speaker 1: my early twenties, i'd say, like twenty two, twenty three,
Speaker 1: And he goes, oh, he goes Toto, he goes, are
Speaker 1: you dating? You know, what's your love life like? And
Speaker 1: my dad was like he was like Danny, we don't
Speaker 1: talk about that, or we don't want to talk about that,
Speaker 1: and stopped him from talking in a nice way. But
Speaker 1: they were brothers, so they would riff with each other.
Speaker 2: Dad didn't want to like talk about that kind of
Speaker 2: stuff ever.
Speaker 1: He didn't want to talk about boys, didn't want to
Speaker 1: talk about dating, didn't want to talk about finances. I
Speaker 1: would and it wasn't like it wasn't so much like
Speaker 1: would ever say no, But like you know, read the room.
Speaker 1: I grew up from a young age knowing what you
Speaker 1: couldn't couldn't talk about and what couldn't couldn't do in
Speaker 1: a room, like from my assessment at a very young age.
Speaker 1: And I think that's why I take so much in
Speaker 1: like very quickly when I'm out places, like I read
Speaker 1: the room. But yeah, so he never wanted to talk
Speaker 1: about stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Was there ever like a time when like and this
Speaker 2: is very personal, but I'll admit this happens in our
Speaker 2: family all the time where there was just like a
Speaker 2: big blowout fight like whoa, like nobody ever like you know,
Speaker 2: shut up, Yeah I'm not doing you know, there was
Speaker 2: never like I don't know, I don't know, no, I
Speaker 2: don't think I said shut up, but it would be
Speaker 2: like right now.
Speaker 1: I would go to my friend's houses and hear the
Speaker 1: way that their and their families talked, and I was
Speaker 1: just shocked. And at first I'd be like, Oh, their
Speaker 1: families sound like they hate each other. I don't understand.
Speaker 1: And then I realized they were so close. They were
Speaker 1: those families were the closest, and I was just I
Speaker 1: didn't grow up that way. I I'm fifty one. I
Speaker 1: have never in my entire lifetime told my mom and
Speaker 1: my dad when he was like to shut up or
Speaker 1: or raise my voice. Her never occurred to me or
Speaker 1: to get mad, you know. Think you know, I think
Speaker 1: the most I ever did was huff and puff and
Speaker 1: probably walk out and then slam my bedroom door when
Speaker 1: I was a teenager.
Speaker 2: You know what your slam?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the time they like making out with, like
Speaker 1: the family chef, like I think when I was ground
Speaker 1: at that time, I went to the room to my
Speaker 1: room and like locked my door, and then my nanny
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you tear lock the door.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, sorry, sorry, Oh that's interesting that nanny said,
Speaker 2: don't lock the door. We don't lock doors. I don't
Speaker 2: like locked doors.
Speaker 1: That's either and we don't do that.
Speaker 2: That's a no. So did you have strict rules, Like
Speaker 2: was it just a very proper household?
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, so like tell me what's proper,
Speaker 1: ask me questions and then I can go into it, because.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean I don't have a proper household. Like
Speaker 2: there's it's very loud. You're allowed to say whatever you want.
Speaker 2: In my household. There's like, you know, always kind of
Speaker 2: know this, yes that I don't want that. I'm not
Speaker 2: doing that. You got to go do this, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's how Yeah, I raised my kids. It's kind
Speaker 1: of the opposite. And you know, when Dean and I met,
Speaker 1: he was raised a completely different way. His you know
Speaker 1: and not you know, not all good, but like, you know,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of yelling and a lot of
Speaker 1: it was just a loud house growing up, and I
Speaker 1: was like I was in a very quiet house.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't like yelling. I'm not into the
Speaker 2: like yelling arguing thing, but I definitely like to speak
Speaker 2: your mind and nothing off limits.
Speaker 1: So like, so we met somewhere in the middle, and
Speaker 1: that's what our family that we raised, that's what we're
Speaker 1: like everyone talks and everyone has such a weird question
Speaker 1: like did.
Speaker 2: Your mom never sit you down and be like, Okay,
Speaker 2: now you're gonna get your period and here's what's going
Speaker 2: to happen.
Speaker 1: No, because you know what happened when I got my period.
Speaker 1: I told that story I got the belt. But if
Speaker 1: there was ever anyone to talk to about stuff, yeah,
Speaker 1: I always talked to my mom about stuff. And my
Speaker 1: mom yes, because I didn't know, so you know, when
Speaker 1: there were boys and stuff, I would always you know,
Speaker 1: you remember my mom saying like, do you remember like
Speaker 1: party chat rooms like on I had my Apple two
Speaker 1: wee computer two wee too. Yeah, I'm going way back
Speaker 1: to the eighties now and dating myself. That was legit
Speaker 1: that we had those in those party rooms like it
Speaker 1: was when you go in, Yeah, I would do. It's
Speaker 1: like before there were really like visuals for computer games
Speaker 1: like they were starting, but it was a lot of
Speaker 1: like almost like books and you could like choot. They
Speaker 1: would be very descriptive of things when you had like
Speaker 1: a mystery game and rooms you go into but you
Speaker 1: didn't see anything.
Speaker 2: Do you remember a game called Secret Agent that was
Speaker 2: like our first game and you'd have to say, like
Speaker 2: go to door, and then this weird graphic would like
Speaker 2: go to the door, use card and then the like
Speaker 2: weird door would go, Yeah, you're trying to save somebody,
Speaker 2: which it was like very hard. Anyone in the fifties
Speaker 2: might remember Secret Agent.
Speaker 1: That's exactly the game I'm talking about. There was that one,
Speaker 1: and then there was some mystery game in the house
Speaker 1: that I remember telling my dad. Of course, always like Dad,
Speaker 1: I played this game. You should make a TV show
Speaker 1: about it. I probably did, but.
Speaker 2: It was always that Charlie's Angels just kidding, Yeah, right, but.
Speaker 1: Get credit. But there. Yeah, there was like these party
Speaker 1: chat rooms and I think I was in fifth grade
Speaker 1: and I somehow got into it was a sex room
Speaker 1: or something where people would talk sexually, like and it
Speaker 1: was all just typing, so there were no visuals. You
Speaker 1: didn't have to put pictures.
Speaker 2: Remember those nine seven six numbers, and you'd call like
Speaker 2: nine seven six sexy and that would be like a
Speaker 2: sex thing.
Speaker 1: Was it like probably something like this. And I had
Speaker 1: a profile that I signed up and for some reason
Speaker 1: I got into a gay one for some reason, so
Speaker 1: I was I posted as I was a gay man
Speaker 1: because I didn't know any different. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is the one that.
Speaker 2: You were like catfishing as like a teenager.
Speaker 1: Yes, And then my mom said she was on the phone,
Speaker 1: you know, her dial up phone in the bathroom that
Speaker 1: would come out of a drawer.
Speaker 2: And she, first of all, we have to talk about that.
Speaker 2: But was the Internet in existence when you were doing this?
Speaker 1: It must have yet I don't.
Speaker 2: But then how would you talk to people on a computer?
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but you would submit a chat. It
Speaker 1: was a chat room, so it must have been internet.
Speaker 2: It was a dial up, yeah, I remember.
Speaker 1: Then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got mail. Wait, your mom had a phone
Speaker 2: in a drawer. I'm sorry, this is gonna get everybody.
Speaker 1: I back back then, my mom was a smoker and
Speaker 1: she now hasn't smoked in Oh my gosh, good, it
Speaker 1: feels like my whole life. But growing up she was
Speaker 1: a smoker. And besides the candy dishes, we always had
Speaker 1: cigarettes out in the house, which we again grew up
Speaker 1: never eating the chocolates or smoking the cigarettes because it
Speaker 1: was just always there. And you know, my sixty year
Speaker 1: old friends would come over, they'd be like, there's cigarettes out.
Speaker 1: Have you tried one?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, pause, I think I forgot about this.
Speaker 2: So there was always candy dishes with candy in them, yes,
Speaker 2: in every room.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh oh what kind of candy? Oh, I'll
Speaker 1: get specific. There were her She's kisses, there were the
Speaker 1: small size mister goodbars like all the hers She's long Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it was like Halloween in every room.
Speaker 1: The tiny ones though, and then there was always another
Speaker 1: like beautiful candy dish. There would be they were massive
Speaker 1: crystal dishes, silver dishes with candy, always filled like people
Speaker 1: would come over my dad had a meeting or they
Speaker 1: had it, you know, people over and if two were eaten,
Speaker 1: like by the next day, it was refilled. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: is a mound. And then there was another iconic candy
Speaker 1: dish that had the silver almonds. Do you remember those?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, whoa always silver almonds?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then she always had what are the green candles?
Speaker 1: I start with an R off to look.
Speaker 2: At it, green candies or candles.
Speaker 1: Candles one candles. It was a green candle. It was
Speaker 1: iconic in ladies. Well, I'll look it up, but those
Speaker 1: were out. And then beautiful cigarette holders. I'm sure there's
Speaker 1: some name for them.
Speaker 2: People would smoke inside your beautiful home. Yeah, I guess,
Speaker 2: so it didn't stay.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. No, I don't remember people ever smoking them,
Speaker 1: except I remember growing up my mom was smoking.
Speaker 2: And she wouldn't go outside.
Speaker 1: She did not in the seventies.
Speaker 2: Would she smoked in the bathtub with.
Speaker 1: This phone in the I always have memories. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure about this. I'll have to ask her. She would
Speaker 1: smoke in the office. I remember that in.
Speaker 2: Her office hers okay, it was her.
Speaker 1: Office, like the office that the two assistants, one on
Speaker 1: each side, and then there were the two chairs. She
Speaker 1: would sit there. She would have her cigarettes there. And
Speaker 1: in her bathroom that's the only place I ever remember
Speaker 1: phone in a drawer.
Speaker 2: So out comes of phone and she could take a
Speaker 2: call while in the bath.
Speaker 1: It would be she had it in her vanity like
Speaker 1: so it was like her beautiful vanity like chair and
Speaker 1: makeup mirror and everything, and a drawer opened up right
Speaker 1: there with her phone, and she would sit at her
Speaker 1: vanity and she had a TV and she would watch
Speaker 1: TV shows and be on her phone. And that was
Speaker 1: kind of like her get away with her girlfriend. So
Speaker 1: once my dad would go to bed, because he'd usually
Speaker 1: go to bed early because he had worked. My mom
Speaker 1: was a night out. My mom would stay up watching
Speaker 1: TV till like three in the morning. But she'd also
Speaker 1: like chat with her girlfriends. So whenever I had and
Speaker 1: this is at our old house. So and then she
Speaker 1: had one at the man or the one before she
Speaker 1: had both. Wow, okay, but like being like that. Oh
Speaker 1: so the time with the gay chat room, that was
Speaker 1: definitely at the old house. And my mom she loves.
Speaker 2: Did she get in trouble?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I could get in trouble, but I
Speaker 1: was so she liked that I was honest with her
Speaker 1: at least sure. So I would come in and I'd
Speaker 1: be like, I was confused, and I was like, Mom,
Speaker 1: I asked her what fis fucking was? And she was like,
Speaker 1: and she goes, I had to look it up because
Speaker 1: I didn't know what fis fucking was? And I wanted
Speaker 1: to give you the right answer in context.
Speaker 2: We even know what it is now you ask Candy spelling.
Speaker 2: I just can't.
Speaker 1: I was in fifth grade and then she said, where
Speaker 1: did you hear that? And I got nervous and then
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, it's bad. And I was
Speaker 1: like at school and then she was like, what who
Speaker 1: said this to you at school? And then I was such,
Speaker 1: I'm so honest, like you know me, like I can't
Speaker 1: lie about anything. It's right on my face. So I
Speaker 1: immediately like was crying. My guy, there's this chat room
Speaker 1: and then she monitored my computer after that and I
Speaker 1: was not allowed to go into these chat rooms. But
Speaker 1: I guess a gay man thought I was another gay
Speaker 1: man and was like, hey, are you into fist fucking?
Speaker 1: And so I in fifth grade very like I was
Speaker 1: also very altered, crude, but like naive. So I came
Speaker 1: in and I was like, Mom, I heard a bad word,
Speaker 1: but I'm confused. Can I ask you what it is?
Speaker 1: And she said yes, of course, you can tell me anything.
Speaker 1: And I said, what is fit fucking? I can see
Speaker 1: it right now. And my mom has big eyes like me,
Speaker 1: and she was just like what uh huh. But going
Speaker 1: then fast forward, I would always tell my mom everything,
Speaker 1: like I would go out with a boy and I'd
Speaker 1: come home. I remember I got picked up once. There
Speaker 1: was this guy Will and he went to our brothers school.
Speaker 1: Because I went to an all girls school. I went
Speaker 1: to west Lake. He went to Westlake, So he went
Speaker 1: to Harvard and he lived in the Palisades.
Speaker 2: Oh, I like it.
Speaker 1: I wonder what he looks like now. He was so fine,
Speaker 1: but he was also that bad boy.
Speaker 2: I love. Only a kid our age, a child of
Speaker 2: the eighties and nineties would say he was so fine.
Speaker 1: What do they say now?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I knew exactly like that, he's so fine.
Speaker 1: He was hot, okay, So yeah, long surfer hair, like
Speaker 1: surfed on the weekends. Also the guy that like every
Speaker 1: week had a new girlfriend. And it was just a label.
Speaker 1: Like it's not like he did anything. Like my friends
Speaker 1: were all pretty prude like me, and you know, I
Speaker 1: was like Donna Martin in real life. So yeah, but
Speaker 1: like I was his you know, sweet sixteens were happening
Speaker 1: in parties and we were all turning sixteen.
Speaker 2: So and did you sweet sixteen? I did?
Speaker 1: All girls though, Okay, okay, it was a luncheon.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, you know what, I think I had friends
Speaker 2: that were at your sweet sixteen. Yes, you can't think
Speaker 2: of who, but I definitely had a couple, you do,
Speaker 2: I definitely because somebody one of my friends from college
Speaker 2: was like I was at Torri sweet sixteen. It was
Speaker 2: like I can't remember with friend Lisa or Kelly or somebody.
Speaker 2: Will have to play that game later.
Speaker 1: It was my friend group. That's your friend group. That
Speaker 1: was like my little sister in Wesley Leslie Haunt.
Speaker 2: But it was like it was was it b wait no,
Speaker 2: oh oh Brook, Oh my god? Wait? Why is her
Speaker 2: last name out of my head right now? Graves Graves,
Speaker 2: Tiffany Wagner? Oh was it Tiffany Wagner? Totally could have
Speaker 2: been Tiffany, you know Tiffy. She went to correct Yeah, yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 1: I go into JTD John Thomas Eye Elementary.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1: Friends in kindergarten. Yeah, anyway, okay, we're oh so well.
Speaker 1: Oh he was so hot. Sorry. So I was like
Speaker 1: every month he had a new girlfriend, he would just
Speaker 1: like go through all of us and like, you know,
Speaker 1: we did nothing besides kiss him and like I put
Speaker 1: water polo. That's a week later, and so I was
Speaker 1: his girl, Like I was the chosen girl of the month.
Speaker 1: And I asked my mom, like can I go out
Speaker 1: with him? I wasn't you know what, I hadn't gotten
Speaker 1: my license yet, so I couldn't drive. I was before sixteen.
Speaker 1: And then He came and picked me up, and my
Speaker 1: mom was very like concerned, Like my mom always waited
Speaker 1: up for.
Speaker 2: Me the old house, so he weren't at the manor yet,
Speaker 2: so he came to the other mansion. But it wasn't
Speaker 2: quite as crazy, right.
Speaker 1: He picked me up in his car and took me
Speaker 1: somewhere for tacos. It was like a taco stand where
Speaker 1: he ordered a taco, paid for it, and then came
Speaker 1: back and he's like, are you going to order something?
Speaker 1: And I was just like so confused that he wasn't
Speaker 1: like he came from money and it wasn't.
Speaker 2: I just you know.
Speaker 1: I watched all the movies like the boy was supposed
Speaker 1: to pick the girl up. He was supposed to take
Speaker 1: her out and buy her dinner, and I was so
Speaker 1: nervous to eat in front of guys. I was like,
Speaker 1: no thanks, I'm actually not hungry. So I sat there
Speaker 1: and watched her like starving chow down on his taco.
Speaker 1: And anyway, that was our first date, concerned my mom.
Speaker 1: Our second date, his parents were out of town, and
Speaker 1: he was like, do you want to go watch me
Speaker 1: surf Saturday morning?
Speaker 2: I was like, done be a surfer or a water
Speaker 2: polo player. I called that. I knew it.
Speaker 1: I was like, this guy's got So he like picked
Speaker 1: me up with six ades and he took me to
Speaker 1: the beach, just like left me on the beach while
Speaker 1: he was surfing with buddies. And here's you know, I'm
Speaker 1: like not knowing, not a beach girl, like Beverly Hills girl.
Speaker 1: And I was like just sitting on like I don't
Speaker 1: even think. He gave me a towel to sit on,
Speaker 1: and I was like okay, cool, Oh my gosh, this
Speaker 1: is great, and watched him sir and started.
Speaker 2: A long line of Tory's future boyfriend had boyfriends. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then he took me home and he's like, cool,
Speaker 1: my parents are out of town, so I'm gonna pick
Speaker 1: you up tonight and we're gonn to go back to
Speaker 1: my house and watch a movie. I'm like okay. So
Speaker 1: we went back to his house and he like I
Speaker 1: was like ready for the movie, and he was like
Speaker 1: just wanted to make out, and I was like, okay, We're.
Speaker 2: Going to Netflix and chill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, way back then. So I got home and my
Speaker 1: I was all excited and my mom's like, so what happened?
Speaker 1: And so I tell her everything, and she was just like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll never forget this, you know, the saying
Speaker 1: why buy the milk if you get the cow for free?
Speaker 1: And I was like what, Mom, I just kissed him
Speaker 1: like and she's like, well, that's this sounds like that's
Speaker 1: all he wants and that's where this is going. Well
Speaker 1: it didn't matter because the next weekend I was sick
Speaker 1: and instead he went to a party and I didn't
Speaker 1: go and he made out with my best friend instead
Speaker 1: and then so that was it. So we had a
Speaker 1: short run. But I used to tell my mom everything
Speaker 1: and if you love them, let them go, if they're
Speaker 1: meant to be, they'll come.
Speaker 2: Back to oh them.
Speaker 1: You always give me these giines that have stayed with me.
Speaker 1: And I found myself like thinking you seeing them on
Speaker 1: your of course, yeah, but like I'll be like my
Speaker 1: mom said, So I know it's an equated phrase, but
Speaker 1: it does make sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my all right, So okay, we have so
Speaker 2: much to cover. Let's segue for a moment. I have
Speaker 2: a little game about the manor. I would like to
Speaker 2: name a celebrity, some celebrities, and then you tell me
Speaker 2: if they came to the manor and if you have
Speaker 2: a memory or thought of them, and.
Speaker 1: If they've been to the house before, that count that house.
Speaker 1: Tell us yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll just call that one BM. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not thou movement before Manner.
Speaker 2: Okay, Heather Locklay, Yes, so she came to the house like,
Speaker 2: and did you guys have a big holiday party where
Speaker 2: like was there ever a party where like everybody was there?
Speaker 2: All these names I'm about.
Speaker 1: To ask you about, not all, but the iconic party
Speaker 1: yearly was my parents through a Christmas Eve party and
Speaker 1: those Christmas party.
Speaker 2: They were the Kardashians before the Kardashians.
Speaker 1: It we you just hit it on shirt? Was it
Speaker 1: my mom? If you got invited to those?
Speaker 2: Oh people, Kardashians are kind of famous for throwing their
Speaker 2: Christmas Eve party.
Speaker 1: That's It's exactly what. It was a smaller scale and
Speaker 1: it got bigger. It was more like family and friends,
Speaker 1: you know, at the BM house, and then at the
Speaker 1: Manner it was like crazy whoa. I mean you would
Speaker 1: read all these steps and there'd be like fifty five
Speaker 1: foot like nutcrackers lining the steps and all of these.
Speaker 2: Celebrities so like John Forsyth, Oh yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 2: So and was there ever a party where like all
Speaker 2: these different people like Farah Fawcett or Jacqueline Smith.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course. But yeah, my dad was really
Speaker 1: close to all of his stars. But the ones I
Speaker 1: remember which are the ones during my like nine o
Speaker 1: two and oh years. Okay, It's interesting because those Christmas
Speaker 1: Eve parties, while he was so close to his entire cats,
Speaker 1: only Mason and Luke were ever invited to the Christmas
Speaker 1: parties from nine two.
Speaker 2: Oh, not Shannon.
Speaker 1: I don't think Shannon never came. Shannon would have been included.
Speaker 2: Because she's she like spent the night there. I feel
Speaker 2: like she would.
Speaker 1: She was always with me, so that she had to
Speaker 1: have been included, and maybe there was a reason she
Speaker 1: she was with her.
Speaker 2: For lack of a better way to say it would
Speaker 2: the old timers also always still be invited, like Gavin
Speaker 2: or Ricardo montalbon No.
Speaker 1: It changed well. He kept in touch with all of
Speaker 1: his celebrities all his starts. The Christmas Eve party was
Speaker 1: always updated to the current situation on television.
Speaker 2: Whoa WHOA right, because the party would be like five
Speaker 2: hundred people deep, I mean like.
Speaker 1: No mmm, so like even it would be like one
Speaker 1: hundred people that would be Max. Maybe not. So it
Speaker 1: wasn't like, no, it was decorated for like I mean,
Speaker 1: she mustn't hundreds of thousands spent on this party, but
Speaker 1: the people know, not even one hundred, maybe not even fifty.
Speaker 1: It wasn't very intimate.
Speaker 2: Group, more like executives or the cat Yes, but more
Speaker 2: like executives. Yeah, so like Brandon Tartakov. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I'm making up names that I might like, pull out
Speaker 2: whoever ranc.
Speaker 1: Ebc at the time, of course, whoever ran Fox? Of course?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, whoa Robert Wagner hurt to heart.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think they he was. My dad was
Speaker 1: very very close with Robert when I was younger. It's
Speaker 1: so that was BM before.
Speaker 2: Did you ever like, I mean, if you just were
Speaker 2: around so many these celebrities, was it just kind of
Speaker 2: like you're so used to it? Like was there ever
Speaker 2: a did a president ever come to the house? Are
Speaker 2: like a governor or somebody like a politician that you
Speaker 2: can remember?
Speaker 1: I don't feel like politicians ever. No, It's more like
Speaker 1: my dad was really good friends with Reagan because they
Speaker 1: grew up entertainment. They worked together, they came up and
Speaker 1: through theater together, and.
Speaker 2: Like they didn't live far from you either. I feel
Speaker 2: like they weren't they in bel Air?
Speaker 1: Also maybe I think, I mean we definitely when he
Speaker 1: was in office went to the White House?
Speaker 2: And how did you guys get there? Take the train?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh, can you remember going to the White House?
Speaker 1: I can, oh.
Speaker 2: That.
Speaker 1: You're so cute My brother and I like at the
Speaker 1: White House.
Speaker 2: A weird question, but like would you figure out what
Speaker 2: to wear? Would your mom help you know what to wear?
Speaker 2: Or did like a nanny say, like I've laid out
Speaker 2: your dress for the White House. How would you know
Speaker 2: what to wear?
Speaker 1: My mom? My mom? Would your mom did out my outfit?
Speaker 1: It's so funny, my mom, I'm trying to It was
Speaker 1: a bond went teller. Do you no?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Do you remember this place?
Speaker 2: I just remember like Dotty Doolittle, like I remember these
Speaker 2: kind of like there was a very specific when I
Speaker 2: was a little little there was a dress in my mom.
Speaker 1: Loved it was like the puff sleeves, yeah, the peter
Speaker 1: Pan collar, the tie, you know, bow around the waist,
Speaker 1: short dress. I'd wear Marry Jane's Mary Jane's fold over
Speaker 1: socks with lace. Yes, sir, I had this outfit and
Speaker 1: my mom granted, you know, back then they dressed their
Speaker 1: little girls and all frills and stuff. There wasn't cool
Speaker 1: clothing like there is now for little girls. But I
Speaker 1: remember this dress when I mean it went up to
Speaker 1: size fourteen, so I remember at some point I had
Speaker 1: to have that. It was a hard conversation, say, Mom,
Speaker 1: I love this dress too, but you know it was
Speaker 1: cute in three t it was adorable in five to tea.
Speaker 1: But now we're at nine te not even tea, not
Speaker 1: toddler anymore. Now we're at size ten twelve. I'm twelve
Speaker 1: years old. Like I shouldn't be wearing this dress anymorek mom,
Speaker 1: man move on to something more sophisticated. She was like, oh,
Speaker 1: but you look so great in this stress. I would
Speaker 1: have the fact then there was like the baby so
Speaker 1: you would have a white version, a baby yellow version,
Speaker 1: a light pink version, a light blue version, everything.
Speaker 2: Wait, do you remember a spree?
Speaker 1: Yes, because a spree changed my life. Remember you shop
Speaker 1: They have them out the shopping carts.
Speaker 2: The spree outlet. At the spree outlet, you would literally
Speaker 2: it was in San Francisco. I don't know if there
Speaker 2: was another one. There was a shopping cart and load
Speaker 2: up your clothes into a shopping cart. They was going
Speaker 2: to try them on, and then you'd check out. And
Speaker 2: then we had the Spree Cafe and the food was delicious.
Speaker 2: Oh see, then after you went to the Spree outlet.
Speaker 2: And I remember like this bully in eighth grade when
Speaker 2: I was in the seventh grade like making fun of me, like, hey, Amy,
Speaker 2: like been to the is Spree outlent lately? Because I
Speaker 2: like would just always wear a Spree. I was like, whatever,
Speaker 2: check like, I don't have a wall. My mom buys
Speaker 2: my clothes, like I don't know.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I think rs Spree was on Los
Speaker 1: Sienaga and it wasn't the outlet it it's a real store.
Speaker 1: It was huge and I want to staying cards also
Speaker 1: they did. I want to say, it's where the Beverly
Speaker 1: Center is now like before that, and before that was
Speaker 1: Flippers where I had my eighth birthday roller skating party,
Speaker 1: and then it turned into Sweet. Oh it wasn't where
Speaker 1: the Beverly Center is. There's a CVS there now. It's huge,
Speaker 1: a huge one that was abs.
Speaker 2: It was kind of across the street right yes, Oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, okay.
Speaker 1: So I had my next question, she picks up my outfit. Yes,
Speaker 1: at the White House and on Tory brand. Of course.
Speaker 1: You know. We went to every room and I was
Speaker 1: very excited and very proper, and we got to have
Speaker 1: lunch with missus Reagan and then afterwards they had like
Speaker 1: the staff dining, and I was really excited to go there.
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to hang out with the staff and
Speaker 1: have lunch with them because I was scared to eat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: on brand, that's where I fit in. And I was like, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I feel comfortable. And I was like talking and felt
Speaker 1: like wanted and yeah, my gosh okay.
Speaker 2: So my next I've got some sort of rapid fire questions.
Speaker 2: Your favorite room in the manner Oh and you can
Speaker 2: only have one go so.
Speaker 1: M okay, it's I mean, it's either the bar downstairs
Speaker 1: that expands the bar, just because all my friends and
Speaker 1: I would.
Speaker 2: Have downstairs, like where the bowling alley was bar, right,
Speaker 2: the one that you could like come bop.
Speaker 1: Out of the wall into or something from the bowling alley. Yep,
Speaker 1: it had the big fish tank aquarium. My dad always
Speaker 1: had a lionfish. He would love to show if he
Speaker 1: had one in his office, a fish tank always, and
Speaker 1: one in our house.
Speaker 2: I just don't picture. Did you guys ever have a dog?
Speaker 2: I just don't picture a dog?
Speaker 1: Oh no way. And they were always poodle are Beijeon frisays,
Speaker 1: Except once we had a mutt because he started with
Speaker 1: me on Fantasy Island and my dad let me keep him.
Speaker 2: Pepper, my god, So you always had a dog and
Speaker 2: the dog could just cruise this whole fifty thousand square
Speaker 2: foot house just as it had its will. Oh my god. Okay,
Speaker 2: Next question, least favorite.
Speaker 1: Room in the house doll music.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah. Next, did you ever pee in
Speaker 2: the pool? Well?
Speaker 1: I always feed in the pool, so yeah, yeah,