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Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio Podcast. You've been waiting

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Speaker 1: and it's back. We're back with part two. Uh bom

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Speaker 1: bomb bomb. Oh that was good right here.

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Speaker 2: I am very excited because we barely like touch the surface?

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Speaker 2: Is that? How is that the right saying? It's like,

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Speaker 2: I have so much more to ask about the manner.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many surfaces that's to touch there.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, So I want to begin by asking you

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Speaker 2: this question, which we may have sort of talked about.

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Speaker 2: You know, I know that the house before was sort

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Speaker 2: of what you really consider your growing up house. But

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Speaker 2: I'd love for you to start today just by explaining,

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Speaker 2: like when you think back about the mannor, do you

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Speaker 2: feel happy, do you feel warm? What do you feel?

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Speaker 1: I feel nothing. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. No,

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Speaker 1: person a delby thing. I'm still on it. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna let go that sound by it for a while.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's like the new Demure. No, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I feel lots of things tell me everything when I

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Speaker 1: think about you know what, when I think about it,

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Speaker 1: I think my joy and excitement about it comes from

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Speaker 1: the outside world's joy and excitement because it was everybody's fantasy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's almost a little bit of a version of

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Speaker 1: nine O two and oh that when I meet people,

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Speaker 1: I see their excitement, the light in their eyes when

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Speaker 1: they ask about the manner, So that in some way

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Speaker 1: brings me joy and makes me feel closer to it.

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Speaker 1: But I hear you, so if I were to totally

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Speaker 1: remove anybody else's view of the.

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Speaker 2: Manner, I really just want to know Tori's feelings, like

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Speaker 2: that teenage tory to the adult tory. Now, do I

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Speaker 2: feel sad? Happy?

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Speaker 1: I don't go sad.

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Speaker 2: Tell me I don't feel happy?

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Speaker 1: What would I feel? I'm trying, really, I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: like tap into feelings for a second. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: a hard one for me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we've got nothing but time.

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Speaker 1: How long do you guys have I'm trying to find

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Speaker 1: as long.

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Speaker 2: As it takes for me to sort of because I

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Speaker 2: think there's something in there.

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Speaker 1: There's something there. I think we've talked about this before

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Speaker 1: because we're good friends that I a lot of my

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Speaker 1: life kind of gets unlocked when I talk about it.

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Speaker 1: When I started writing my books and when I tell

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Speaker 1: the stories, and you know, sometimes we'll be talking and

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Speaker 1: a story comes to me and I haven't tapped into

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Speaker 1: that memory in twenty thirty forty years. So that's what

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Speaker 1: it is. When I think about the manner, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: where are the feelings? What is it? I'm not sure,

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Speaker 1: so perhaps it'll come out during this.

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Speaker 2: But you know what's weird is like it actually concerns

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Speaker 2: me as your friend that you feel nothing, because that's

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Speaker 2: very tory ish, right, like block the hard stuff for

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Speaker 2: you know, have a wall up or don't feel. Don't

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Speaker 2: feel because this is like where your family lived, and

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Speaker 2: I know that you have cozier, sort of warmer memories

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Speaker 2: of the house prior, but it's like this was where

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Speaker 2: you spent time for many years, even if you didn't

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Speaker 2: live there. It's where you went for the holidays. It's

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Speaker 2: is it where your dad passed away?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was just about to say that, I

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Speaker 1: think when I think of the Manner, my final memory

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Speaker 1: is being there after his funeral. It was the last

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Speaker 1: time I saw him, a couple of weeks before he passed.

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Speaker 1: Father's Day, I believe was the last time I saw

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Speaker 1: I think that's more locked into my memories. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Gets that gave me chills a little bit. It's like,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't blame me if you were like I hate

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Speaker 2: that house.

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Speaker 1: I don't hate it. I love it, like I really

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Speaker 1: big place, like obviously it's ginormous. You know what was

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Speaker 1: And my mom gave me my dad's typewriter, which is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I have a question about that. But I

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Speaker 2: was like we left that house, my dad passed away there.

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Speaker 2: Maybe your mom had extreme sadness there because this was

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Speaker 2: her dream, and then she she moved because she.

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Speaker 1: Lost your father probably, yes, yes, and yes.

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Speaker 2: Well tell me. And I'm also feeling.

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Speaker 1: Like I want, I want to connect that house with

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Speaker 1: But I feel like my dad that wasn't his dream house.

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Speaker 1: He liked smaller and cozier. You know. The first house

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Speaker 1: He didn't even go through all the rooms in that house.

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Speaker 1: He was just as ginormous a public figure he was.

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Speaker 1: He was really, deep down a simple man, and I

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Speaker 1: I love that part. So it was like the opposite

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, if we.

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Speaker 1: Really wanted any time with my dad after we were

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Speaker 1: We had some great memories with my dad, like him

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Speaker 1: I have those memories. But yeah, actually, like the house,

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Speaker 2: I'm trying so numb to it, do you know what

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Speaker 2: a little numb where you're like, which is fine too.

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Speaker 2: It's a house.

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Speaker 1: We go there and have like a seance or something.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to go there so bad, But I wonder

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Speaker 2: if you had pain associated with that loss that you've

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Speaker 1: I mean, I got to tell you, and I don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have it. I don't think you have either.

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Speaker 1: No, which I'd like to at some point, like that's

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Speaker 1: at a time where our family was a bit disjointed. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a time when I had just left my first marriage,

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Speaker 1: And then a month later we conceived Liam, and it

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Speaker 2: It makes me want to cry for you.

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Speaker 1: I had no choice. We all we always have choices.

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Speaker 1: But I think for me, it happened and it was

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Speaker 2: Although simultaneously to when your dad had passed.

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Speaker 1: Away, well, my dad passed unexpectedly from complications of a stroke.

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Speaker 1: So it all happened in a short amount of time,

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Speaker 1: So it's like it was like hit after hit after hit,

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Speaker 1: I talking about it and I literally like was like, no,

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Speaker 1: you know, my dad would always say show must go on,

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Speaker 1: and literally, I think a week after my dad died.

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Speaker 1: So I've never grieved my father. You haven't the rest

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Speaker 1: of the manner. We just I just uncovered a huge

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Speaker 2: I mean, we'll still keep talking about the house, but

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about this. It's like it feels

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Speaker 2: like two things to me. And again we're close, so

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Speaker 2: you can shut me up or maybe feel it. Work work, work, work, work,

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Speaker 2: which is exactly how your dad coped, and work work work, work, work, work, work,

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Speaker 2: and you get tons of joy from that. But like,

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Speaker 2: use that word lightly, Like your father was a true patriarch,

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Speaker 2: not just to you all, but like everybody that we

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Speaker 2: talked to, Aaron Spelling, Aaron Spelling, Aaron Spelling, like he

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Speaker 2: Well, and you always have to because so many people

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Speaker 2: Right, he had like this magnificent life, but he was

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Speaker 1: It's like I would like to find a way to

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Speaker 2: You're watching it from like outside, like you watch a TV.

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Speaker 1: Show, Like the entire world has watched my life. Correct,

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Speaker 2: And I think we got of plenty of actual therapists,

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Speaker 2: and I'm I apologize that I'm the one here sort

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Speaker 1: Like oddly enough makes sense, Like you know, you're one

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Speaker 2: You know, Well, it feels like your life was a

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it was perfect, right, but it feels

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, like, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: Did you ever call him to be like, hey, I

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Speaker 1: Wasn't that guy? Uh?

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Speaker 1: No? I would call him and he would we would

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Speaker 2: It's so funny that you bring that up. So I learned,

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Speaker 2: growing up, they also had one of those buttons that

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Speaker 2: So basically for people listening, like wealthy people had this button,

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Speaker 1: You're blowing my mind right now, because I didn't know

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Speaker 2: No, I get what you're saying. There was some sort

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Speaker 2: or was that? Did your mom handle that like you're.

435
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 1: My mom handled that? So you know what?

436
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 2: It reminds me of. Have you seen the original batman.

437
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 1: Who sticks in the ceiling? Is that who sticks?

438
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 2: So I'm picturing there's a scene in Batman where Michael

439
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 2: Keaton and Kim Bexinger bass singer, how you say that name?

440
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 2: Basinger sitting in this you know he's Wayne manor like

441
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 2: like your manner, and they're at the opposite sides of

442
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 2: the table. They can't even talk to each other. And

443
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 2: I remember like they grabbed their soups or whatever and

444
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 2: went into the kitchen to eat in there, same kind

445
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 2: of thing where you're like, and then I remember Michael Keaton,

446
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 2: Bruce Wayne Batman. She says something about the room and

447
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 2: he's like, I don't think I've ever been in here before.

448
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 2: And it's like seems so crazy in the movie, but

449
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 2: like you're like those Bruce Wayne. So anyway, go back

450
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 2: to uncle.

451
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 1: Danly So, Uncle Danny So in the breakfast room round

452
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: table and he comes to visit for the weekend, and

453
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 1: so he looks across the table and he's like, keep

454
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 1: in mind, I'm not a young girl. I'm like in

455
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 1: my early twenties, i'd say, like twenty two, twenty three,

456
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: And he goes, oh, he goes Toto, he goes, are

457
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: you dating? You know, what's your love life like? And

458
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: my dad was like he was like Danny, we don't

459
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 1: talk about that, or we don't want to talk about that,

460
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: and stopped him from talking in a nice way. But

461
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: they were brothers, so they would riff with each other.

462
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: Dad didn't want to like talk about that kind of

463
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 2: stuff ever.

464
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: He didn't want to talk about boys, didn't want to

465
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: talk about dating, didn't want to talk about finances. I

466
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: would and it wasn't like it wasn't so much like

467
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: would ever say no, But like you know, read the room.

468
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: I grew up from a young age knowing what you

469
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: couldn't couldn't talk about and what couldn't couldn't do in

470
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: a room, like from my assessment at a very young age.

471
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: And I think that's why I take so much in

472
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 1: like very quickly when I'm out places, like I read

473
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,719
Speaker 1: the room. But yeah, so he never wanted to talk

474
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: about stuff like that.

475
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 2: Was there ever like a time when like and this

476
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 2: is very personal, but I'll admit this happens in our

477
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 2: family all the time where there was just like a

478
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: big blowout fight like whoa, like nobody ever like you know,

479
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 2: shut up, Yeah I'm not doing you know, there was

480
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 2: never like I don't know, I don't know, no, I

481
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 2: don't think I said shut up, but it would be

482
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: like right now.

483
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: I would go to my friend's houses and hear the

484
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: way that their and their families talked, and I was

485
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 1: just shocked. And at first I'd be like, Oh, their

486
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 1: families sound like they hate each other. I don't understand.

487
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 1: And then I realized they were so close. They were

488
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: those families were the closest, and I was just I

489
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: didn't grow up that way. I I'm fifty one. I

490
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: have never in my entire lifetime told my mom and

491
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: my dad when he was like to shut up or

492
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: or raise my voice. Her never occurred to me or

493
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: to get mad, you know. Think you know, I think

494
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: the most I ever did was huff and puff and

495
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 1: probably walk out and then slam my bedroom door when

496
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 1: I was a teenager.

497
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 2: You know what your slam?

498
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the time they like making out with, like

499
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: the family chef, like I think when I was ground

500
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 1: at that time, I went to the room to my

501
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: room and like locked my door, and then my nanny

502
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you tear lock the door.

503
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, sorry, sorry, Oh that's interesting that nanny said,

504
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 2: don't lock the door. We don't lock doors. I don't

505
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 2: like locked doors.

506
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: That's either and we don't do that.

507
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 2: That's a no. So did you have strict rules, Like

508
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 2: was it just a very proper household?

509
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, so like tell me what's proper,

510
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: ask me questions and then I can go into it, because.

511
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean I don't have a proper household. Like

512
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 2: there's it's very loud. You're allowed to say whatever you want.

513
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 2: In my household. There's like, you know, always kind of

514
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 2: know this, yes that I don't want that. I'm not

515
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: doing that. You got to go do this, you know.

516
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: And that's how Yeah, I raised my kids. It's kind

517
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: of the opposite. And you know, when Dean and I met,

518
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: he was raised a completely different way. His you know

519
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: and not you know, not all good, but like, you know,

520
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: there was a lot of yelling and a lot of

521
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: it was just a loud house growing up, and I

522
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: was like I was in a very quiet house.

523
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't like yelling. I'm not into the

524
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: like yelling arguing thing, but I definitely like to speak

525
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: your mind and nothing off limits.

526
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: So like, so we met somewhere in the middle, and

527
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,719
Speaker 1: that's what our family that we raised, that's what we're

528
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: like everyone talks and everyone has such a weird question

529
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: like did.

530
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 2: Your mom never sit you down and be like, Okay,

531
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 2: now you're gonna get your period and here's what's going

532
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: to happen.

533
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: No, because you know what happened when I got my period.

534
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: I told that story I got the belt. But if

535
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: there was ever anyone to talk to about stuff, yeah,

536
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: I always talked to my mom about stuff. And my

537
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 1: mom yes, because I didn't know, so you know, when

538
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: there were boys and stuff, I would always you know,

539
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: you remember my mom saying like, do you remember like

540
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,479
Speaker 1: party chat rooms like on I had my Apple two

541
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: wee computer two wee too. Yeah, I'm going way back

542
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: to the eighties now and dating myself. That was legit

543
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: that we had those in those party rooms like it

544
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: was when you go in, Yeah, I would do. It's

545
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 1: like before there were really like visuals for computer games

546
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: like they were starting, but it was a lot of

547
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: like almost like books and you could like choot. They

548
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: would be very descriptive of things when you had like

549
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: a mystery game and rooms you go into but you

550
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: didn't see anything.

551
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: Do you remember a game called Secret Agent that was

552
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: like our first game and you'd have to say, like

553
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: go to door, and then this weird graphic would like

554
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: go to the door, use card and then the like

555
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 2: weird door would go, Yeah, you're trying to save somebody,

556
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 2: which it was like very hard. Anyone in the fifties

557
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 2: might remember Secret Agent.

558
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: That's exactly the game I'm talking about. There was that one,

559
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: and then there was some mystery game in the house

560
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: that I remember telling my dad. Of course, always like Dad,

561
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: I played this game. You should make a TV show

562
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: about it. I probably did, but.

563
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: It was always that Charlie's Angels just kidding, Yeah, right, but.

564
00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: Get credit. But there. Yeah, there was like these party

565
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: chat rooms and I think I was in fifth grade

566
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: and I somehow got into it was a sex room

567
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: or something where people would talk sexually, like and it

568
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: was all just typing, so there were no visuals. You

569
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: didn't have to put pictures.

570
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: Remember those nine seven six numbers, and you'd call like

571
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: nine seven six sexy and that would be like a

572
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 2: sex thing.

573
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: Was it like probably something like this. And I had

574
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: a profile that I signed up and for some reason

575
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: I got into a gay one for some reason, so

576
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: I was I posted as I was a gay man

577
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: because I didn't know any different. I was like, oh,

578
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: this is the one that.

579
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: You were like catfishing as like a teenager.

580
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: Yes, And then my mom said she was on the phone,

581
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, her dial up phone in the bathroom that

582
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: would come out of a drawer.

583
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: And she, first of all, we have to talk about that.

584
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: But was the Internet in existence when you were doing this?

585
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: It must have yet I don't.

586
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: But then how would you talk to people on a computer?

587
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but you would submit a chat. It

588
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: was a chat room, so it must have been internet.

589
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: It was a dial up, yeah, I remember.

590
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: Then.

591
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got mail. Wait, your mom had a phone

592
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: in a drawer. I'm sorry, this is gonna get everybody.

593
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: I back back then, my mom was a smoker and

594
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: she now hasn't smoked in Oh my gosh, good, it

595
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: feels like my whole life. But growing up she was

596
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: a smoker. And besides the candy dishes, we always had

597
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: cigarettes out in the house, which we again grew up

598
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: never eating the chocolates or smoking the cigarettes because it

599
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: was just always there. And you know, my sixty year

600
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: old friends would come over, they'd be like, there's cigarettes out.

601
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 1: Have you tried one?

602
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, pause, I think I forgot about this.

603
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: So there was always candy dishes with candy in them, yes,

604
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: in every room.

605
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh oh what kind of candy? Oh, I'll

606
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: get specific. There were her She's kisses, there were the

607
00:29:54,840 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: small size mister goodbars like all the hers She's long Yeah.

608
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 2: So it was like Halloween in every room.

609
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: The tiny ones though, and then there was always another

610
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: like beautiful candy dish. There would be they were massive

611
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: crystal dishes, silver dishes with candy, always filled like people

612
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: would come over my dad had a meeting or they

613
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: had it, you know, people over and if two were eaten,

614
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: like by the next day, it was refilled. Oh wow,

615
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: is a mound. And then there was another iconic candy

616
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: dish that had the silver almonds. Do you remember those?

617
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

618
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, whoa always silver almonds?

619
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

620
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: And then she always had what are the green candles?

621
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: I start with an R off to look.

622
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: At it, green candies or candles.

623
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: Candles one candles. It was a green candle. It was

624
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: iconic in ladies. Well, I'll look it up, but those

625
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: were out. And then beautiful cigarette holders. I'm sure there's

626
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: some name for them.

627
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: People would smoke inside your beautiful home. Yeah, I guess,

628
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: so it didn't stay.

629
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: I don't remember. No, I don't remember people ever smoking them,

630
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: except I remember growing up my mom was smoking.

631
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: And she wouldn't go outside.

632
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: She did not in the seventies.

633
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: Would she smoked in the bathtub with.

634
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: This phone in the I always have memories. I'm not

635
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: sure about this. I'll have to ask her. She would

636
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: smoke in the office. I remember that in.

637
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: Her office hers okay, it was her.

638
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: Office, like the office that the two assistants, one on

639
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: each side, and then there were the two chairs. She

640
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: would sit there. She would have her cigarettes there. And

641
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: in her bathroom that's the only place I ever remember

642
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: phone in a drawer.

643
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: So out comes of phone and she could take a

644
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: call while in the bath.

645
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: It would be she had it in her vanity like

646
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: so it was like her beautiful vanity like chair and

647
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: makeup mirror and everything, and a drawer opened up right

648
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: there with her phone, and she would sit at her

649
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: vanity and she had a TV and she would watch

650
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: TV shows and be on her phone. And that was

651
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: kind of like her get away with her girlfriend. So

652
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: once my dad would go to bed, because he'd usually

653
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: go to bed early because he had worked. My mom

654
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: was a night out. My mom would stay up watching

655
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: TV till like three in the morning. But she'd also

656
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: like chat with her girlfriends. So whenever I had and

657
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: this is at our old house. So and then she

658
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: had one at the man or the one before she

659
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: had both. Wow, okay, but like being like that. Oh

660
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: so the time with the gay chat room, that was

661
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: definitely at the old house. And my mom she loves.

662
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: Did she get in trouble?

663
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I could get in trouble, but I

664
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: was so she liked that I was honest with her

665
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: at least sure. So I would come in and I'd

666
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: be like, I was confused, and I was like, Mom,

667
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: I asked her what fis fucking was? And she was like,

668
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: and she goes, I had to look it up because

669
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know what fis fucking was? And I wanted

670
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: to give you the right answer in context.

671
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: We even know what it is now you ask Candy spelling.

672
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: I just can't.

673
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: I was in fifth grade and then she said, where

674
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: did you hear that? And I got nervous and then

675
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, it's bad. And I was

676
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: like at school and then she was like, what who

677
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: said this to you at school? And then I was such,

678
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: I'm so honest, like you know me, like I can't

679
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: lie about anything. It's right on my face. So I

680
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: immediately like was crying. My guy, there's this chat room

681
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: and then she monitored my computer after that and I

682
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: was not allowed to go into these chat rooms. But

683
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: I guess a gay man thought I was another gay

684
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: man and was like, hey, are you into fist fucking?

685
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: And so I in fifth grade very like I was

686
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: also very altered, crude, but like naive. So I came

687
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: in and I was like, Mom, I heard a bad word,

688
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: but I'm confused. Can I ask you what it is?

689
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: And she said yes, of course, you can tell me anything.

690
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: And I said, what is fit fucking? I can see

691
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: it right now. And my mom has big eyes like me,

692
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: and she was just like what uh huh. But going

693
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: then fast forward, I would always tell my mom everything,

694
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: like I would go out with a boy and I'd

695
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: come home. I remember I got picked up once. There

696
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: was this guy Will and he went to our brothers school.

697
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: Because I went to an all girls school. I went

698
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: to west Lake. He went to Westlake, So he went

699
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: to Harvard and he lived in the Palisades.

700
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 2: Oh, I like it.

701
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: I wonder what he looks like now. He was so fine,

702
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: but he was also that bad boy.

703
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 2: I love. Only a kid our age, a child of

704
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: the eighties and nineties would say he was so fine.

705
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: What do they say now?

706
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: I don't know.

707
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: I don't know.

708
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: I knew exactly like that, he's so fine.

709
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: He was hot, okay, So yeah, long surfer hair, like

710
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 1: surfed on the weekends. Also the guy that like every

711
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: week had a new girlfriend. And it was just a label.

712
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: Like it's not like he did anything. Like my friends

713
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: were all pretty prude like me, and you know, I

714
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: was like Donna Martin in real life. So yeah, but

715
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: like I was his you know, sweet sixteens were happening

716
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: in parties and we were all turning sixteen.

717
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: So and did you sweet sixteen? I did?

718
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: All girls though, Okay, okay, it was a luncheon.

719
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: Well yeah, you know what, I think I had friends

720
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 2: that were at your sweet sixteen. Yes, you can't think

721
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 2: of who, but I definitely had a couple, you do,

722
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 2: I definitely because somebody one of my friends from college

723
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 2: was like I was at Torri sweet sixteen. It was

724
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: like I can't remember with friend Lisa or Kelly or somebody.

725
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: Will have to play that game later.

726
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: It was my friend group. That's your friend group. That

727
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: was like my little sister in Wesley Leslie Haunt.

728
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 2: But it was like it was was it b wait no,

729
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: oh oh Brook, Oh my god? Wait? Why is her

730
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 2: last name out of my head right now? Graves Graves,

731
00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 2: Tiffany Wagner? Oh was it Tiffany Wagner? Totally could have

732
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 2: been Tiffany, you know Tiffy. She went to correct Yeah, yeah, yeah, but.

733
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: I go into JTD John Thomas Eye Elementary.

734
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, exactly, exactly.

735
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: Friends in kindergarten. Yeah, anyway, okay, we're oh so well.

736
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: Oh he was so hot. Sorry. So I was like

737
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: every month he had a new girlfriend, he would just

738
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: like go through all of us and like, you know,

739
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: we did nothing besides kiss him and like I put

740
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: water polo. That's a week later, and so I was

741
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: his girl, Like I was the chosen girl of the month.

742
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: And I asked my mom, like can I go out

743
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,479
Speaker 1: with him? I wasn't you know what, I hadn't gotten

744
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: my license yet, so I couldn't drive. I was before sixteen.

745
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: And then He came and picked me up, and my

746
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: mom was very like concerned, Like my mom always waited

747
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: up for.

748
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: Me the old house, so he weren't at the manor yet,

749
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: so he came to the other mansion. But it wasn't

750
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: quite as crazy, right.

751
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 1: He picked me up in his car and took me

752
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: somewhere for tacos. It was like a taco stand where

753
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: he ordered a taco, paid for it, and then came

754
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: back and he's like, are you going to order something?

755
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: And I was just like so confused that he wasn't

756
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: like he came from money and it wasn't.

757
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 2: I just you know.

758
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 1: I watched all the movies like the boy was supposed

759
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: to pick the girl up. He was supposed to take

760
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: her out and buy her dinner, and I was so

761
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: nervous to eat in front of guys. I was like,

762
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: no thanks, I'm actually not hungry. So I sat there

763
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: and watched her like starving chow down on his taco.

764
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: And anyway, that was our first date, concerned my mom.

765
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: Our second date, his parents were out of town, and

766
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: he was like, do you want to go watch me

767
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 1: surf Saturday morning?

768
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: I was like, done be a surfer or a water

769
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: polo player. I called that. I knew it.

770
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: I was like, this guy's got So he like picked

771
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: me up with six ades and he took me to

772
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: the beach, just like left me on the beach while

773
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: he was surfing with buddies. And here's you know, I'm

774
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: like not knowing, not a beach girl, like Beverly Hills girl.

775
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: And I was like just sitting on like I don't

776
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: even think. He gave me a towel to sit on,

777
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: and I was like okay, cool, Oh my gosh, this

778
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 1: is great, and watched him sir and started.

779
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: A long line of Tory's future boyfriend had boyfriends. Yeah.

780
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: And then he took me home and he's like, cool,

781
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: my parents are out of town, so I'm gonna pick

782
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: you up tonight and we're gonn to go back to

783
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: my house and watch a movie. I'm like okay. So

784
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: we went back to his house and he like I

785
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: was like ready for the movie, and he was like

786
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: just wanted to make out, and I was like, okay, We're.

787
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 2: Going to Netflix and chill.

788
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, way back then. So I got home and my

789
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: I was all excited and my mom's like, so what happened?

790
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: And so I tell her everything, and she was just like, well,

791
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: you know, I'll never forget this, you know, the saying

792
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: why buy the milk if you get the cow for free?

793
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: And I was like what, Mom, I just kissed him

794
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: like and she's like, well, that's this sounds like that's

795
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: all he wants and that's where this is going. Well

796
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: it didn't matter because the next weekend I was sick

797
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: and instead he went to a party and I didn't

798
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: go and he made out with my best friend instead

799
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: and then so that was it. So we had a

800
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 1: short run. But I used to tell my mom everything

801
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: and if you love them, let them go, if they're

802
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: meant to be, they'll come.

803
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 2: Back to oh them.

804
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: You always give me these giines that have stayed with me.

805
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: And I found myself like thinking you seeing them on

806
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: your of course, yeah, but like I'll be like my

807
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: mom said, So I know it's an equated phrase, but

808
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: it does make sense.

809
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my all right, So okay, we have so

810
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 2: much to cover. Let's segue for a moment. I have

811
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 2: a little game about the manor. I would like to

812
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: name a celebrity, some celebrities, and then you tell me

813
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: if they came to the manor and if you have

814
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: a memory or thought of them, and.

815
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: If they've been to the house before, that count that house.

816
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: Tell us yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll just call that one BM. Yeah,

817
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: not thou movement before Manner.

818
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: Okay, Heather Locklay, Yes, so she came to the house like,

819
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: and did you guys have a big holiday party where

820
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 2: like was there ever a party where like everybody was there?

821
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: All these names I'm about.

822
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: To ask you about, not all, but the iconic party

823
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: yearly was my parents through a Christmas Eve party and

824
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: those Christmas party.

825
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 2: They were the Kardashians before the Kardashians.

826
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: It we you just hit it on shirt? Was it

827
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: my mom? If you got invited to those?

828
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: Oh people, Kardashians are kind of famous for throwing their

829
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: Christmas Eve party.

830
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: That's It's exactly what. It was a smaller scale and

831
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: it got bigger. It was more like family and friends,

832
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: you know, at the BM house, and then at the

833
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: Manner it was like crazy whoa. I mean you would

834
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: read all these steps and there'd be like fifty five

835
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: foot like nutcrackers lining the steps and all of these.

836
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 2: Celebrities so like John Forsyth, Oh yeah, oh my god.

837
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 2: So and was there ever a party where like all

838
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 2: these different people like Farah Fawcett or Jacqueline Smith.

839
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course. But yeah, my dad was really

840
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: close to all of his stars. But the ones I

841
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: remember which are the ones during my like nine o

842
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: two and oh years. Okay, It's interesting because those Christmas

843
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 1: Eve parties, while he was so close to his entire cats,

844
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: only Mason and Luke were ever invited to the Christmas

845
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 1: parties from nine two.

846
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: Oh, not Shannon.

847
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: I don't think Shannon never came. Shannon would have been included.

848
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: Because she's she like spent the night there. I feel

849
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: like she would.

850
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: She was always with me, so that she had to

851
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: have been included, and maybe there was a reason she

852
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: she was with her.

853
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: For lack of a better way to say it would

854
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 2: the old timers also always still be invited, like Gavin

855
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: or Ricardo montalbon No.

856
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: It changed well. He kept in touch with all of

857
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: his celebrities all his starts. The Christmas Eve party was

858
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: always updated to the current situation on television.

859
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: Whoa WHOA right, because the party would be like five

860
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 2: hundred people deep, I mean like.

861
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: No mmm, so like even it would be like one

862
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: hundred people that would be Max. Maybe not. So it

863
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: wasn't like, no, it was decorated for like I mean,

864
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: she mustn't hundreds of thousands spent on this party, but

865
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: the people know, not even one hundred, maybe not even fifty.

866
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't very intimate.

867
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: Group, more like executives or the cat Yes, but more

868
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 2: like executives. Yeah, so like Brandon Tartakov. I don't know,

869
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 2: I'm making up names that I might like, pull out

870
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 2: whoever ranc.

871
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: Ebc at the time, of course, whoever ran Fox? Of course?

872
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, whoa Robert Wagner hurt to heart.

873
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think they he was. My dad was

874
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: very very close with Robert when I was younger. It's

875
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: so that was BM before.

876
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 2: Did you ever like, I mean, if you just were

877
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 2: around so many these celebrities, was it just kind of

878
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 2: like you're so used to it? Like was there ever

879
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: a did a president ever come to the house? Are

880
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: like a governor or somebody like a politician that you

881
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: can remember?

882
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: I don't feel like politicians ever. No, It's more like

883
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: my dad was really good friends with Reagan because they

884
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: grew up entertainment. They worked together, they came up and

885
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: through theater together, and.

886
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,479
Speaker 2: Like they didn't live far from you either. I feel

887
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: like they weren't they in bel Air?

888
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: Also maybe I think, I mean we definitely when he

889
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 1: was in office went to the White House?

890
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: And how did you guys get there? Take the train?

891
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 1: Yeah?

892
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 2: Oh, can you remember going to the White House?

893
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: I can, oh.

894
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: That.

895
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: You're so cute My brother and I like at the

896
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: White House.

897
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: A weird question, but like would you figure out what

898
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: to wear? Would your mom help you know what to wear?

899
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: Or did like a nanny say, like I've laid out

900
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 2: your dress for the White House. How would you know

901
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:55,479
Speaker 2: what to wear?

902
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: My mom? My mom? Would your mom did out my outfit?

903
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: It's so funny, my mom, I'm trying to It was

904
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: a bond went teller. Do you no?

905
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 2: No?

906
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: Do you remember this place?

907
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: I just remember like Dotty Doolittle, like I remember these

908
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: kind of like there was a very specific when I

909
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: was a little little there was a dress in my mom.

910
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: Loved it was like the puff sleeves, yeah, the peter

911
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: Pan collar, the tie, you know, bow around the waist,

912
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: short dress. I'd wear Marry Jane's Mary Jane's fold over

913
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: socks with lace. Yes, sir, I had this outfit and

914
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: my mom granted, you know, back then they dressed their

915
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: little girls and all frills and stuff. There wasn't cool

916
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: clothing like there is now for little girls. But I

917
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: remember this dress when I mean it went up to

918
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: size fourteen, so I remember at some point I had

919
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: to have that. It was a hard conversation, say, Mom,

920
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: I love this dress too, but you know it was

921
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: cute in three t it was adorable in five to tea.

922
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: But now we're at nine te not even tea, not

923
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 1: toddler anymore. Now we're at size ten twelve. I'm twelve

924
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 1: years old. Like I shouldn't be wearing this dress anymorek mom,

925
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: man move on to something more sophisticated. She was like, oh,

926
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: but you look so great in this stress. I would

927
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: have the fact then there was like the baby so

928
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: you would have a white version, a baby yellow version,

929
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 1: a light pink version, a light blue version, everything.

930
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: Wait, do you remember a spree?

931
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 1: Yes, because a spree changed my life. Remember you shop

932
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: They have them out the shopping carts.

933
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 2: The spree outlet. At the spree outlet, you would literally

934
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: it was in San Francisco. I don't know if there

935
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 2: was another one. There was a shopping cart and load

936
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: up your clothes into a shopping cart. They was going

937
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: to try them on, and then you'd check out. And

938
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: then we had the Spree Cafe and the food was delicious.

939
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 2: Oh see, then after you went to the Spree outlet.

940
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: And I remember like this bully in eighth grade when

941
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: I was in the seventh grade like making fun of me, like, hey, Amy,

942
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: like been to the is Spree outlent lately? Because I

943
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: like would just always wear a Spree. I was like, whatever,

944
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,919
Speaker 2: check like, I don't have a wall. My mom buys

945
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: my clothes, like I don't know.

946
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I think rs Spree was on Los

947
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: Sienaga and it wasn't the outlet it it's a real store.

948
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: It was huge and I want to staying cards also

949
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: they did. I want to say, it's where the Beverly

950
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: Center is now like before that, and before that was

951
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 1: Flippers where I had my eighth birthday roller skating party,

952
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: and then it turned into Sweet. Oh it wasn't where

953
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 1: the Beverly Center is. There's a CVS there now. It's huge,

954
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,959
Speaker 1: a huge one that was abs.

955
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 2: It was kind of across the street right yes, Oh

956
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: my gosh, okay.

957
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: So I had my next question, she picks up my outfit. Yes,

958
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: at the White House and on Tory brand. Of course.

959
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: You know. We went to every room and I was

960
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: very excited and very proper, and we got to have

961
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: lunch with missus Reagan and then afterwards they had like

962
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: the staff dining, and I was really excited to go there.

963
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to hang out with the staff and

964
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: have lunch with them because I was scared to eat. Yeah,

965
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: on brand, that's where I fit in. And I was like, yes, yes, yes,

966
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: I feel comfortable. And I was like talking and felt

967
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: like wanted and yeah, my gosh okay.

968
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 2: So my next I've got some sort of rapid fire questions.

969
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: Your favorite room in the manner Oh and you can

970
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: only have one go so.

971
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: M okay, it's I mean, it's either the bar downstairs

972
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: that expands the bar, just because all my friends and

973
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: I would.

974
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: Have downstairs, like where the bowling alley was bar, right,

975
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: the one that you could like come bop.

976
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: Out of the wall into or something from the bowling alley. Yep,

977
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: it had the big fish tank aquarium. My dad always

978
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: had a lionfish. He would love to show if he

979
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: had one in his office, a fish tank always, and

980
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 1: one in our house.

981
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: I just don't picture. Did you guys ever have a dog?

982
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: I just don't picture a dog?

983
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: Oh no way. And they were always poodle are Beijeon frisays,

984
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: Except once we had a mutt because he started with

985
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: me on Fantasy Island and my dad let me keep him.

986
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: Pepper, my god, So you always had a dog and

987
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: the dog could just cruise this whole fifty thousand square

988
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 2: foot house just as it had its will. Oh my god. Okay,

989
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,959
Speaker 2: Next question, least favorite.

990
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: Room in the house doll music.

991
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah. Next, did you ever pee in

992
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 2: the pool? Well?

993
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 1: I always feed in the pool, so yeah, yeah,