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Speaker 3: Two here on The Herd.

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Speaker 4: Jason McIntyre in for Colin Cowherd Jet setting.

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Speaker 3: I don't worzy Ebisa? Is that where he is right now?

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Speaker 5: I have no idea. You tell me.

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Speaker 3: I love Abiza.

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Speaker 5: I haven't been a we honeymoon in Abiza.

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Speaker 3: What a la? Alex Curry joining me.

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Speaker 4: We got jovon Buja coming up in I don't know

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Speaker 4: five minutes.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 4: Lakers fans are like on the edge, Alex right now

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Speaker 4: there breathing.

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Speaker 5: We're okay, okay.

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Speaker 6: I'm not as concerned, I think as everybody else. As

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Speaker 6: we talk about last hour, Lebron knows how to get

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Speaker 6: the conversation going. This is what he does. What does

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Speaker 6: his hat say?

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Speaker 3: Welcome home? Welcome home.

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Speaker 5: Yeah it's a message, but he is back home.

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Speaker 3: I thought he's in.

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Speaker 4: Ohio with Lebron like hanging around seeing what the hell's

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Speaker 4: going on.

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Speaker 3: But he's out here anyways.

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Speaker 4: All right, real quick before we get to Yovon, I

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Speaker 4: just got to talk about it, like I like Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 3: I know people think you don't like him, Jay, You're critical.

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Speaker 3: That's what we do.

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Speaker 4: Were critical of everybody, Patrick Mahomes, Jalen Hurts, Lebron, everybody.

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Speaker 4: And Lamar Jackson is a two time MVP. He's a

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Speaker 4: dynamic player. When he's on, you're watching. He came out

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Speaker 4: here so far to play. I think it was the

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Speaker 4: Chargers even last year, two years ago.

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Speaker 3: I was at the game.

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Speaker 4: He's electrifying. You can't take your eyes off him. He's unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: And he keeps coming up empty in the playoffs, which

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Speaker 4: is fine, you know, not everybody wins right out of

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Speaker 4: the gate. But Lamar went on some digital show with

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Speaker 4: Kevin Hart and me to take a quick time out.

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Speaker 4: Kevin Hart, from my money, is the funny guy going.

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Speaker 4: I know people like Theo Vaughn and then all these

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Speaker 4: other comics. Kevin Hart's a man. I'm a huge fan

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Speaker 3: He's great.

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Speaker 4: Kevin Hart also does like an ice tub thing where

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Speaker 4: he invites people on and talks to him.

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Speaker 3: And here's what Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 4: Said to Kevin Hart about the one thing, okay, one.

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Speaker 3: Thing he needs to improve on to get the Ravens

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Speaker 3: over the hump.

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Speaker 5: Just being a leader.

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Speaker 7: Okay, I'm gonna say being a leader because I'm I

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Speaker 7: really don't. I'm really not outspoken, like being vocal with

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Speaker 7: my guys like oh let's do this and that got

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Speaker 7: a great motivation of speech. I don't have that, you know.

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Speaker 7: I just pretty much lead by example. I go out there,

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna work hard. I expect that out of you.

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Speaker 7: But as I've been going, like growing in the league,

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Speaker 7: it's like, nah, you gotta talk to the guys coaches

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Speaker 3: I'm all right now. I talked to him one on one.

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Speaker 7: But certain things I'm saying, I gotta voice it more.

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Speaker 7: It was my opinion more to those guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It's like when you're in a job interview and you know,

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Speaker 4: they ask you one of these question like what's your

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Speaker 4: biggest weakness? And you give one of these answers that

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, really, leadership, you either have that or

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Speaker 4: you don't. I don't think like five years in the

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Speaker 4: He's not changing, you know. Patrick Mahomes is a fiery dude.

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Speaker 4: He was that way at Texas Tech. He's that way

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Speaker 4: in the NFL. He's not changing. Lamar Jackson is a

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Speaker 4: quiet guy. He doesn't say a lot. Tom Brady, you

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Speaker 4: remember him on the sideline with the Patriots. He would

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Speaker 3: That's who he was. Fiery. Everybody's different when it comes

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Speaker 4: If Lamar was given truth serum before the Kevin Hard interview,

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Speaker 4: what's the biggest way, Hey man, I've had some rotten

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Speaker 4: playoff games going to Buffalo. I couldn't do anything this

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Speaker 4: past year in Buffalo. I started slow, fumble interception, I

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Speaker 4: If he catches that, it's a different discussion. But look

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Speaker 4: at the game log of Lamar Jackson. He has not

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Speaker 4: been great in the playoffs, and yeah, I see the

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Speaker 4: what's his name against Kansas City when they were at home,

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Speaker 4: brutal game, but right out of the gate, like Lamar

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Speaker 4: Jackson wasn't awesome. Teams have seen him, they know how

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Speaker 4: different quarterback in the postseason. And that's not a knock,

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Speaker 4: it's just a reality. Right now, that's the only Kryptonite has.

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Speaker 4: The calendar turns to January and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson, Oh shoot, what are we getting here?

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Speaker 3: Are we in trouble?

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Speaker 4: I mean, look at the numbers three and five in

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Speaker 4: the playoffs. Completion percentage down, passer rating down. It hasn't

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Speaker 4: been great. Now you're playing the best of the best,

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Speaker 4: But for a two time MVP, that to me is

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Speaker 4: his weakness.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to hear this as leadership nonsense.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's go back to the NBA and bring

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Speaker 4: in Jovon Buha, who covers the league. He covers the

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Speaker 4: Lakers closely. Let's welcome in jovonn Who's listen. The last

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Speaker 4: time he was your absolute fire. And now the pressure's

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Speaker 4: on Yovann obviously, not just because you're a free agent,

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Speaker 4: but also there's some pre agent stuff swirling around and

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Speaker 4: the Lakers fans want to know right now what is

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Speaker 4: the status with DeAndre Ayton and Los Angeles.

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Speaker 8: MI understanding is he's likely going to make his decision

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Speaker 8: today he clears waivers at five pm Eastern time. There's

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Speaker 8: a bit of a DeAndre Aighton sweepstakes going on right

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Speaker 8: now for a guy who's on a thirty five million

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Speaker 8: need starting centers. Indiana just lost Miles Turner. They also

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Speaker 8: have a relationship with eight and they offered him a

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Speaker 8: max contract offer sheet back in twenty twenty two, which

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Speaker 8: he signed. So there was a second there where it

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Speaker 8: eight point two five million dollars because they split part

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Speaker 8: of that mL on Jake Lauravia. So I think the

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Speaker 8: Lakers probably provide the best opportunity. You're going to be

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Speaker 8: in the spotlight. You're going to be starting playing with Luca,

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Speaker 8: potentially playing with Lebron, and theoretically being on a team

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Speaker 8: with some you know, contending odd So I think that's

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Speaker 8: the best opportunity for him. But also like money talks

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Speaker 8: and other teams can offer him more money.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he got number one pick money, he got

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Speaker 4: a second contract, which is huge. Yeah, I mean fourteen

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Speaker 8: Still getting the twenty five million from Portland. So he

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Speaker 8: would be taking like I guess, a one point seventy

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Speaker 8: five million shaving off of that thirty five if he

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Speaker 8: the other teams, he could technically make more money on

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Speaker 8: top of the thirty five because it would be an

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Speaker 8: offset of like four extra million dollars. But I think

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Speaker 8: you know right now that they're weighing their options is

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Speaker 8: my understanding him and his camp, but it sounds like

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Speaker 8: around the time of him clearing waivers, we should have

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Speaker 4: Yeah, from just a fit perspective, I got to ask, like, culturally,

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Speaker 4: did you read the article about him where it's like

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Speaker 4: he was late to flights. In practice, he couldn't make

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Speaker 4: a lot of stuff that apparently trickled out in Portland.

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Speaker 4: They were like, we got to get this guy out

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Speaker 4: of here, and now the Lakers want to bring him in.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that's certainly concerning. But if you look

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Speaker 8: at the center options right now in free agency, the

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Speaker 8: I think I would go out Horford. I like Al Horford.

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Speaker 8: I just think, you know, in comparison to like rebounding

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Speaker 8: right now, like that they were load managing Al Horford

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Speaker 8: and Boston right and I don't think he's a guy

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Speaker 8: two game seasons. So I think the Lakers need a

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Speaker 8: legit starting center and eight and is one. Now that

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Speaker 8: there are some flaws and there are some drawbacks. I

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Speaker 8: think he's very talented, he's very skilled. There have been

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Speaker 8: that you know, he's in a contract year effectively, so

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Speaker 4: He doesn't really stretch the floor, he doesn't get to

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Speaker 4: the foul line. He's not I mean, I saw the

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Speaker 4: true catching some lobs, but he's not like the lively

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Speaker 8: I all seven years he's averaged a double double, so

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Speaker 8: like you are getting a baseline level of rebounding with him.

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Speaker 8: Shot eighty percent at the rim last year, which I think,

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Speaker 8: you know that's not all dunks. But he's got a

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Speaker 8: soft touch with hook shots, floaters. Like I think the

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Speaker 8: offensive skill is there. I think he's arguably the best

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Speaker 8: like realistic offensive option they could get. It's the defensive

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Speaker 8: end that I'm interested to see. But some of his

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Speaker 8: rim protection numbers are good, good defensive rebounder like you

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Speaker 8: could certainly do worst, which I would argue the Lakers

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Speaker 8: did last year with their center.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so Ayton, Let's say Ayton picks the Warriors

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Speaker 4: or whoever. Oh wow, they're just sending me some breaking news.

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Speaker 3: Are you ready for this? Sure it's not Lakers related.

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Speaker 4: The Knicks are expected to land Mike Brown as the

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Speaker 4: next head coach of the franchise. Wow, so not a

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Speaker 4: huge surprise. The we'll come back to the Knicks a favorite? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he was a favorite. So if the Lakers don't get

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Speaker 4: Ayton and then Al Horford, is there anyone else out there?

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Speaker 4: I mean Luke Cornett got.

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Speaker 3: Way too much money. He would have been the starting

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Speaker 3: center of the Lakers.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean Jackson Hayes is still out there. Alex

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Speaker 8: Laddin can I can I sell you? So there's precious

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Speaker 8: Achua from New York who Yeah? So, but but I

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Speaker 8: think at that point they have to pivot and make

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Speaker 3: What's a connection to the Lakers?

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Speaker 8: But we'll say I've been in the lab diving into

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Speaker 3: There we go, there we go, like, look, this is

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Speaker 4: So when you said Laaravia shares an agent with Reeve,

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Speaker 3: They're not trading Nausin Reeves.

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Speaker 4: He's sticking right, You don't do that move with Reeves's agent.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so let's go to the breaking news year.

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Speaker 4: So the Nicks move off Tibbs last month and now

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Speaker 3: I'll bring it to Lebron in a second.

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Speaker 3: Be the New York next. The Calves would probably have

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Speaker 3: Whatever. Do you think there's any world where Lebron gets traded.

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Speaker 8: I think there's a world, but I think it's I

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Speaker 8: It's hard to look at that statement and not read

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Speaker 8: star build around Luca. So the moves they're making are

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Speaker 8: win now, maximize Lebron's twenty third season, maximize Lebron's potential

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Speaker 8: they kind of put it out in statement, like it's

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Speaker 8: He won a championship, he benefited from the Lakers brand,

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Speaker 8: they benefited from him coming there, bringing Ad there, winning

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Speaker 8: I just think at this point, if you're Lebron, it's

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Speaker 3: That Lebron were the top. Let me guess Houston, Denver Okac, who's.

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Speaker 3: So Dallas.

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Speaker 4: So of these you see on the screen, four teams

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Speaker 3: After the Luca trade. I cannot envision a world where

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Speaker 8: I'm part of the everybody because I put it out there,

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Speaker 8: Dallas would be among the teams that would be on him.

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Speaker 3: Shop that trade.

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Speaker 4: Let's just just humor me. Who the hell are they

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Speaker 3: They're not.

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Speaker 8: I've been on the trade machine.

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Speaker 3: Give it up.

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Speaker 8: Cooper Flag. No, so I think Cooper Flag eighty, Kyrie,

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Speaker 8: Derek Lively, those four are off the table. Can't get Lively,

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Speaker 8: I don't think so.

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Speaker 8: Think it's Gafford, PJ. Washington, Klay Thompson, Max Christie that

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Speaker 3: No, they're gonna be good.

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Speaker 8: You could get the Lakers. Lakers can get their pick

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Can I get super Max Christie back? No?

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Speaker 4: Did you see the Instagram today of Lebron in Ohio

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Speaker 3: A hat that says welcome home. Yeah, okay, go ahead,

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Speaker 8: He does.

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Speaker 8: He's never been traded. I think that's been a point

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Speaker 3: Are you trusted? Like Atlanta?

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Speaker 8: one small market, but that's obviously home and you got

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Speaker 8: the homecoming narrative for the second time. But then Dallas,

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Speaker 8: Golden State in New York are all big market teams.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, let's go from Lebron to Luka Donchett.

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Speaker 4: So I opened the show defending Luca. The disrespect is

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Speaker 4: getting a little out of control? Have you heard the

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Speaker 4: Avery Johnson sound about? He was asked who would you

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Speaker 4: rather have Cooper flag or Luka Donchet and I think

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Speaker 4: we could play it for you here here's Avery Johnson.

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Speaker 9: Man, give me Cooper flag. Really Cooper flag in this team? Yeah,

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Speaker 9: give me Cooper flag.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 9: You're talking about a team when they're healthy. Got three

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Speaker 9: future Hall of famers with Kyrie ad and Klay Thompson.

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Speaker 9: So this is really exciting in the Mavericks. Their future

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Speaker 9: is bright, but they have a window when they're healthy.

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Speaker 3: If the next two to three years, what does Ross

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Speaker 3: as currently?

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Speaker 4: Okay, listen, Avery Johnson is a smart guy. He probably

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Speaker 4: knows more basketball than you and I combined.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is just crazy? Is hoop crazy?

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Correct?

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Speaker 8: Correct?

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Speaker 4: Why are people adding on Luca like one bad season?

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Speaker 4: And by the way, hey, if he had rushed back

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Speaker 4: from his CAF like Nico Harrison wanted, would he beat

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Speaker 4: Tyrese Haliburton?

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Speaker 9: Now?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean maybe it's the jersey he's wearing. Now,

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Speaker 8: I think that comes with some extra criticism sometimes. I

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Speaker 8: mean I do think the way like I think some

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Speaker 8: of the stuff that came out from the Dallas side

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Speaker 8: has been taken as gospel right with the conditioning and

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Speaker 8: their concerns, and it almost was like, we cannot believe

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Speaker 8: that this trade is real, so we have to validate

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Speaker 8: anything that's coming from their side too, to even make

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Speaker 8: it like plausible that they would consider trading Luca. And now,

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Speaker 8: of course Nico's still gotten his fair share of jokes

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Speaker 8: and he's been roasted, and you know, we'll probably be

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Speaker 8: roasted forever. But I think there has been like a

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Speaker 8: tarnishing of Luca and his image and and just his

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Speaker 8: status in the league, because I think for a lot

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Speaker 8: of people he was like a top two or top

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Speaker 8: three player pre Lakers trade. Now he's being talked about

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Speaker 8: in like top five, top seven, top test.

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Speaker 3: I slip it, would you take SGA over Luca going forward?

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Speaker 3: Right now?

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Speaker 4: I think you asked me this last time I was

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Speaker 4: on again, because he's now finals.

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Speaker 8: I think I would come. But more so it's more

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Speaker 8: of the defense. I think that like that's I think

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Speaker 8: that's the real knock on Lucas, Like you have to

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Speaker 8: build a particular lineup, and now we have the proof

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Speaker 8: of concept with SGA. Of like I think previously I

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Speaker 8: had some concerns. Could Sga be the best player? We

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Speaker 8: hadn't seen it yet, Like that was one thing we

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Speaker 8: had discussed of, you know, talking about like him versus Harden.

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Speaker 8: It was like, can he get over that hump? Can

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Speaker 8: you get to the finals? Can you win a championship?

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Speaker 8: He did it and he was awesome, and so I think,

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Speaker 8: like for now, I think Shaye deserves his props MVP

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Speaker 8: finals MVP. I think both were deserved. But you know,

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Speaker 8: I think I'll say it's close, Like I think Lucas

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Speaker 8: probably the third or fourth best players. It's right there

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Speaker 8: with the.

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Speaker 4: Honest So I was gonna I was going to ask

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Speaker 4: you this, but now it probably hurts your chances. So

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Speaker 4: your background is Eastern European rips because I fall, you know,

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Speaker 4: in Serbian stuff.

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Speaker 3: Right. What's Luca's background?

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Speaker 8: Uh, he's Slomania, but there their close Falkan region former Yugoslavia.

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Speaker 8: And then the lad has some Serbian roots.

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Speaker 4: When he's going back this summer, are you headed back

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Speaker 4: there to maybe?

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Speaker 8: So he is actually going to be in Serbia in August.

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Speaker 8: They're playing a friendly against Serbia. And we were actually

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Speaker 8: talking about it at the end of the season. Luca

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Speaker 8: and I after the Lakers were eliminated, we're walking to

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Speaker 8: Was that in a different language or uh, no, we

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Speaker 8: were talking in English. We have done a little talking Serb.

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Speaker 8: I speak a little bit. I wish I spoke for

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Speaker 8: you walk into the walk into the car area, you know,

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Speaker 8: doing the sidling. We were chatting and I was saying

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Speaker 8: it might be going this summer, and he was saying

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Speaker 8: when he was going to be there, So, uh, maybe

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Speaker 8: it's it's TVD right now.

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Speaker 4: Well it would have augues is to say, of course

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Speaker 4: Luca over SGA.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, welcome you.

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Speaker 8: And no, I mean I've spoken very highly of Luca. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: you know, I think he's again I think Luca over

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Speaker 8: Cooper Flag ten out of ten times. Ob we'll see

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Speaker 8: you with Flag, right, he could develop into that type

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Speaker 8: of player, But I think Luca is clearly the engine

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Speaker 8: of you can win a title with him as your

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Speaker 8: best player, number one option Cooper Flag, I think like

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Speaker 8: maybe he's more of a number two, but could be

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Speaker 8: because he could do so many other things, and he's

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Speaker 8: like a defensive Player of the Year type defender like

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Speaker 8: I don't know, more like a Kevin Garnett or something

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Speaker 8: like that. Where you know, I don't know if he's

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Speaker 8: the number one option, but he can do so many

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Speaker 8: other things that it makes up for it all.

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Speaker 4: Right, last one, I thought the Lakers would be in

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Speaker 4: the mix to get some not ring chasers, but oh damn,

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Speaker 4: I could play with Luca and Lebron and then I

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Speaker 4: see like Tim Hardaway's going to the Nuggets. I mean

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Speaker 4: that's got to hurt, right, Those guys could have been

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Speaker 4: huge for the Lakers to get just shooters.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So with that, I would say, right now, there's

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Speaker 8: just to hold up with the eight in situation and

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Speaker 8: what they do with their non taxpayer and a lead.

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Speaker 8: They have the bi annual exception five point one million,

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Speaker 8: So I think there are going to be some guys

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Speaker 8: that Chris Paul I don't think he's probably one of

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Speaker 8: the Lakers. It seems more like the Clippers.

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Speaker 3: But gosh, Chris, what the heck?

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Speaker 8: But like d Anthony Melton is a name I like

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Speaker 8: who a former was the hurt last year? Trojan Yeah,

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Speaker 8: he towards ACL last year, so that's the reason why

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Speaker 8: he's available. But is a defensive energy guard I think

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Speaker 8: a good guard off the bench. Gary Payton, the second

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Speaker 8: is still out there, a mere coffee clipper, bench wing

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Speaker 8: who is athletics score so like that. There's some names

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Speaker 8: that I think Lakers could sign, depending on what they

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Speaker 8: have available. But I think you'll see them get like

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Speaker 8: right now is just being held up by once they

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Speaker 8: have the clarity with eight and then they'll move forward.

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Speaker 4: Hot, super hot take Just hit me, why the hell

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Speaker 4: not Celtics don't have Tatum next year? It would never happen.

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Speaker 4: But what if there was a hey Jalen Brown, let's

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Speaker 4: get him off our books. We'll take Lebron for a year.

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Speaker 4: He could do victory lap with the Celtics, lead us

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Speaker 4: to I don't know what in the East, and you

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Speaker 4: guys can have Jaylen Brown because they're not gonna be

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Speaker 4: able to pay Tatum and Brown sixty five million each

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Speaker 4: and build a team.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty clear. Any shot the Celtics.

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Speaker 8: Get involved for Lebron, I think Lebron would rather retire

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Speaker 8: and play for the Celtics. Well said, and he's got

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Speaker 8: the no trade class, so you would block it.

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Speaker 3: He can dixit, right, that's a fire up and why not?

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Speaker 3: All right? Coming up next?

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Speaker 4: Great stuff from jovon Bouja on the Lakers. I know

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Speaker 4: you guys are a little fed up. A lot of

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Speaker 4: Lakers content today, but.

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Speaker 6: News Jay Beck, I love our head NBA coach breaking

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Speaker 6: news streak that we have going. It's it's now three

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Speaker 6: for three because, according to several reports, and Knicks are

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Speaker 6: offering Mike Brown their vacant head coaching position. Brown most

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Speaker 6: recently coached the Sacramento Kings and has been named Coach

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Speaker 6: of the Year twice. Brown also won championships as an

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Speaker 6: assistant coach in Golden State and San Antonio. I mean,

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Speaker 6: he has quite the impressive resume. Do you like this

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Speaker 6: fit for the next this is your team?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I mean this first time they.

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Speaker 6: Were in the Eastern Conference finals in twenty five years.

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Speaker 5: This was a record setting year for the Knicks.

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Speaker 6: Shopped everybody what they did, but now makes more sense

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Speaker 6: as Morris coming out, I guess, But is this the

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Speaker 6: right fit?

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Speaker 3: In a word? Yeah, I like it. You know you

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Speaker 3: never want to go two overboard, Alex. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I walked into the morning meeting this morning, even before

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Speaker 4: the Mike Brown ssopp. Yeah, I was like, you know,

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Speaker 4: I had a good night's sleep last night. Not to

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Speaker 4: channel cowherdo, uh huh, but I woke up and I'm

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Speaker 4: feeling the Knicks going to the finals next year. I

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Speaker 4: like a couple of small moves they made fortify their bench.

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Speaker 3: I like the bright Mike Brown move.

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Speaker 4: Good coach, he won with Lebron, He's been in the

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Speaker 4: Golden State system.

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Speaker 3: I thought he They showed.

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Speaker 4: Well in Sacramento where nobody can win, like them alone

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Speaker 4: could win in Sacramento.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just I like Mike Brown a lot.

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Speaker 3: I think this is really good news for the Knicks. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm calling it. The Knicks will be the NBA Finals

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Speaker 3: for the East next season.

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Speaker 4: WHOA, I don't even know who their competition is, Orlando.

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Speaker 3: Cleveland, let me see believe Land.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm Atlanta Calves. I mean six not gonna be

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Speaker 6: the same team. Pacer is not going to be the

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Speaker 6: same team.

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Speaker 5: Bucks.

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Speaker 6: We have no idea what to expect. So yeah, I

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Speaker 6: think it's Nicks and Calves definitely at top.

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Speaker 5: Top two teams in the East.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Bucks to me or a play in

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Speaker 3: t I don't even think they're.

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Speaker 8: Good to Detroit.

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Speaker 5: It's kind of depend if Giannis is there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, then, like we can't really make any kind of

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Speaker 6: prediction until you know who's going to be on that roster.

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Speaker 5: They can have to start player.

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00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 4: I mean they're gonna be healthy. Paul George embiid Maxie.

659
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 3: I like their pick. They got a lot of stuff.

660
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 3: Sixers are sleepy. Maybe four or five.

661
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 6: They're gonna go from what thir thirteenth in the East

662
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 6: up to.

663
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 5: Four or five six?

664
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's that's a good jump.

665
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 4: So the Knicks went to the conference finals, lost in

666
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,959
Speaker 4: I think six pacers aren't going to be as good

667
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 4: next year. Lost two starters Knicks sting put ad a

668
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 4: good coach and add two reliable bench players, Like they're

669
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 4: going to be really you guys could remember it was

670
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 4: year one with adding bridges and towns.

671
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, can we just let things bake?

672
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 5: Is it the right fit?

673
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 6: That is the right personality fit? Is it the right

674
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 6: chemistry fit. We've seen this happen with a lot of

675
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 6: top players and coaches, Like it really can turn turn

676
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 6: a franchise around.

677
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: Is this runs loved Tips.

678
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 4: They had a deep history dating back to like his childhood. Yeah,

679
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 4: that is probably a sting there, But you know Brown,

680
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 4: you gotta win the locks.

681
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 5: He's a winner.

682
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's a winning coach. Good.

683
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 6: That's a I think the first big step there. Okay,

684
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 6: let's move to the NFL wide receiver Chris Godwin turned

685
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 6: down turned some heads when he decided to stay in

686
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 6: Tampa and free agency after the Patriots reportedly offered him

687
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 6: more money. Now, Baker Mayfield wasn't surprised, saying the Bucks

688
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 6: have a great culture full of guys who.

689
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 5: Don't need the spotlight.

690
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 6: Mayfield went on to add that the Bucks are a

691
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 6: bunch of good guys who just want to win. Now,

692
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 6: we've seen almost all of the Bucks tough guys take

693
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 6: less money to stay and try to win another Super Bowl,

694
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 6: something that Tom Brady kind of did when he came

695
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 6: in and set the culture there, very similar to what

696
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 6: he did in New England, because Tom always took less

697
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 6: money in order to build the roster around him and

698
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 6: be able to go out and win Super Bowls. If

699
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 6: you think about it, since Brady left New England kind

700
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 6: of went downhill. The Bucks have controlled the NFC South.

701
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 6: They won the NFC South the last four years. And

702
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 6: it's always a question you ask these athletes, like do

703
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 6: you want the bag or do you want the ring?

704
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 6: And there's no wrong answer here because as an athlete,

705
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 6: you have a very small window to make your money,

706
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 6: but you usually can't have both. So this Bucks franchise

707
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 6: and what we're hearing from all their top guys is

708
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 6: they want to try to go They want to try

709
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 6: to go for the chips opposed to the bag.

710
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: I don't see.

711
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 4: So that's a good discussion. The NFL's showf lip. You

712
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 4: know THISFL stands not for long. I think you absolutely

713
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 4: have to get the bag in the NFL. There's no

714
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 4: there's no wrong answer.

715
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 6: There is no wrong answer for an athlete here, Okay,

716
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 6: because you don't know. Your career could be three years,

717
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 6: could be ten years. Really only quarterbacks and top top

718
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 6: tier players that are above that ten year mark.

719
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, most positions you get early thirties in the NFL

720
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 4: and they're done. Probably your body is done NBA less,

721
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 4: so I think you have a little longer runway. So

722
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 4: I would say, now, I mean, do rings really matter

723
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 4: that much?

724
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 5: Legacy?

725
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 3: Yes, we have a lot of legacy talk Alex at

726
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: the NFL do.

727
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 6: But again, what's important to you this is this is

728
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 6: a personal question to.

729
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: An after give me a generation.

730
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 6: What Okay, then there you go, You're going to take

731
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 6: the bag. Yeah, that's where you would go. I would

732
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 6: want to go championship.

733
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: Well at what age.

734
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 4: At twenty five, Give me the bag at thirty five,

735
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 4: give me the chip.

736
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, but if you if you take the.

737
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 6: Bag at twenty five, that's going to affect your career

738
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 6: because you're not going to be on a team that's

739
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 6: probably able to compete for the championship. So then it's

740
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 6: just it terms you, Alex, not really like do you

741
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 6: think let me think of a guy like, uh, well,

742
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 6: not Dan, Like.

743
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 4: Mark Clayton, I played wide receiver for Dan Mareen on

744
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 4: the Dolphins way back. Do you think he's like ever

745
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 4: just around and somebody's like, oh, Mark, what's up man?

746
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 3: You never won that Super Bowl? Like he's not. He's

747
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 3: thinking about like, oh yeah, I got generational wealth.

748
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 4: My family set, I could travel anywhere I wanted.

749
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 6: You are like a hardcore athlete, Yes, you're thinking about

750
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 6: that constantly. Yeah, I never won that chip. That was

751
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 6: the one thing on my career. Like, that's why you

752
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 6: play the game, That's why everybody. That's what you dream

753
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 6: about as a kid, whatever sport you're going into is

754
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 6: hoisting that trophy, getting that championship ring. That should be

755
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 6: your number one goal always if you're playing a sport.

756
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 6: And then obviously you're gonna make millions of dollars. You're

757
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 6: sacrificing your body and your life and everything else.

758
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 5: But Jack, well it's okay.

759
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 6: That again, it's it's so different for every athlete, and

760
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 6: there is no wrong answer.

761
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, because it says your life and your career.

762
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 4: Well, I do want you know, you're taking the the

763
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 4: bag and then I set my family up for generations. Okay,

764
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 4: but I would love a championship later in my career.

765
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: I know this is wall potatoes.

766
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 6: A don't trying to have your cake. You eat it too,

767
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 6: I want to, don't. You don't usually get that. And

768
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 6: you look at the goat. Look at Tom Brady. He

769
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 6: always took less money. So always took less money.

770
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 3: Well he is. Remember Giselle was making five hundred million

771
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 3: or whatever, as.

772
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 5: It helps, made more than him.

773
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 4: So in in these men's leagues I play in, you know,

774
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 4: Matt Liner was all my teams passes and we won

775
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 4: the championship. So we're a banner in the gym, so

776
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 4: everybody knows it's us.

777
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 3: But then you play in.

778
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 4: The tougher league and I'm like, I don't need to

779
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 4: play minutes, guys, I just want the championship. But in

780
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 4: the thirty five and up league, I'm Jack, and you know,

781
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 4: like I'm shooting a lot. So like, if I want

782
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 4: my cake and I want to eat it too, what's

783
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 4: wrong with that?

784
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 5: There's not.

785
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 6: But in in this scenario, you're most likely not gonna

786
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 6: get both because you can't build.

787
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 5: Around when you have so many big contracts.

788
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 4: And if you're Tampa Bay, it's gonna be very tough. Like, no, yeah,

789
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 4: they're coming, They're there at best fifth in the NFC maybe, yeah, Eagles,

790
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 4: yeah better.

791
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 3: I think Niners are clearly better.

792
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 4: Lions, oh yeah, Washington, Yeah, like the Packers probably, it's

793
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 4: gonna be tough.

794
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 3: Rams. So, like, it's gonna be very tough.

795
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 5: It's gonna be really tough.

796
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 6: But I mean that's the attitude you have to take

797
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 6: if you want to keep you gotta tea keep all

798
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 6: of your top guys, and they're like in an easier division,

799
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 6: so you're you're able to take You're able to take

800
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 6: the the NFC South. Yeah, all right, let's move to baseball.

801
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 6: Wrap things up with baseball another day. Another Otani home

802
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 6: run show. Hey lead to the National League with thirty

803
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 6: home runs. This is Otawnie's Third Street season of hitting

804
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 6: it at least thirty bombs before the All Star Game

805
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 6: time Kangriffy Junior for the third most all time and

806
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 6: tied Tode Bellinger for most home runs before the All

807
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 6: Star break in Dodgers' history that twenty nineteen season. Bellinger

808
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 6: went on to win the NL MVP. What I love

809
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 6: right now is that we're seeing the two reigning MVPs,

810
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 6: Aaron Judge and Shohey Otani tied right now with thirty

811
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 6: home runs, like they are both just going off.

812
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 5: Still not as much as the big.

813
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 6: Dumper caw Rawly, who is the catcher in Seattle.

814
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 5: Who is leading all in baseball in home runs, which

815
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 5: is absolutely phenomenal.

816
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 6: But Otani, I try to remind people just appreciate greatness

817
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 6: when it's right in front of your face. This kid

818
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 6: is a unicorn and a gift for the game of baseball.

819
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 6: We are never going to see a player like this again.

820
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 6: He has already cemented his name in baseball in these

821
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 6: record books and this one.

822
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 5: This is a very I think on break.

823
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 6: Record that Otani's setting right now. He has the most

824
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 6: home runs in a season with multiple pitching starts. No

825
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 6: one's ever gonna be able to break that record.

826
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 3: You don't think a picture is going to hit forty

827
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 3: six home runs?

828
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 5: No, absolutely.

829
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 6: I don't think we're gonna see another two way power

830
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 6: hitter pitcher like we're seeing Otani see an ace on

831
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 6: the mound and a power hitter. So you think we're

832
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 6: gonna see another's gonna be gonna be able to beat

833
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 6: this record. I think I know the kids are going

834
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 6: to see this and be like, I'm going to motivate.

835
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 5: But it's different. It's Otani.

836
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 6: It has a different hit, a different upbringing, metality. He

837
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 6: went to like a baseball boarding school. Baseball was his life,

838
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 6: and how how strict he is with his training and

839
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 6: his time management, like before he started his family, Like

840
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 6: it was all all baseball. That's all he did. You

841
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 6: would eat, sleep, breathe baseball. Even out on the road,

842
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 6: you wouldn't hear him being out with the other guys.

843
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 3: He'd just be in his room watching.

844
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 6: Tape maybe like he literally he is Baseball is life.

845
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 4: Hey, if you ask my wife, she would say, Jay,

846
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 4: that's my my husband for sports.

847
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 3: Uh, basically that's what I was.

848
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 4: You know, in my twenties, I was like, I need

849
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 4: to build this website do all this. Yeah, anyways, we

850
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 4: have sound alex of Otani's home run last night.

851
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 3: Here we go am five to seven.

852
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 10: Otani awakes the three two pits from Shane Smith.

853
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 3: Here it comes, he swings. It's a high drive the

854
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 3: right field way back. It does, and this ball is gone.

855
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 10: A home run show. Hey, oh, tourney with a blast

856
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 10: his earlieth of the season, decent one sixteen exit bilw Like,

857
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 10: he just makes it look so easy, and he has

858
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 10: so much fun, and he has so much respect for

859
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:55,479
Speaker 10: the game.

860
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 6: He's one of the only batters that goes up, says

861
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 6: hide to the umpires everything.

862
00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 3: I love that when the.

863
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 5: Benches were clearing, he got hit by the pitch.

864
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 6: When they're playing the padres, he's the one that went

865
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 6: over and like calmed the dugout down both dugouts, Like, guys, stop,

866
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 6: this is a part of the game. Like, it's just

867
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 6: he's so good for the game and the face of

868
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 6: baseball right now. I'm just it's so fun to watch.

869
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 3: All right, Alex with the news.

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00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

871
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: herd Line news.

872
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 4: All right, So coming up next, I got a loyalty

873
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 4: rant to go on, and I'm telling you guys, like listen,

874
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 4: these new NBA rules, they are not good. And loyalty

875
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 4: it's out the window. That's next here on the Herd.

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Speaker 2: and noon Eastern n A em Pacific.

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Speaker 6: Alex Pullo looks to continue his legendary season and hold

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Speaker 6: off a war new Gordon Kirkwood and the rest of

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Speaker 6: the pack as the IndyCar Series roars into mid Ohio

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Speaker 6: Sunday at one eastern on Fox.

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Speaker 3: All right, let me talk about this loyalty thing teased.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot. It's weird.

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Speaker 4: We don't really have this in the NFL, but it's

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Speaker 4: a thing in the NBA. Fans of that team really

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Speaker 4: want guys to stay. And I totally get that, right owners,

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Speaker 4: when they find good players, they should do.

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Speaker 3: Everything in their power to keep them.

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Speaker 4: So yesterday's something weird happened with Miles Turner of the Pacers.

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Speaker 4: Out of the blue, and I mean just totally nobody

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Speaker 4: saw this coming. He leaves the Pacers for the Milwaukee Bucks,

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Speaker 4: and all these Pacers fans are scratching their heads.

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Speaker 3: What wait?

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Speaker 4: What every all signs during the playoff run pointed to him, staying,

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Speaker 4: you guys might have remembered, like a month ago. Early

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Speaker 4: in the playoffs, they said, man, Miles Turner would be

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Speaker 4: a great fit with.

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Speaker 3: The Lakers if they could get him on the cheap. Oh,

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Speaker 3: that would be such a heist. And of course the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Go on and Turner's very, very good, and there's like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: there's no way they're gonna get him.

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Speaker 3: He's staying in Indy.

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Speaker 4: The Pacers during the NBA Finals even made a move

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Speaker 4: telegraphic they want to keep Turner.

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Speaker 3: They traded their twenty twenty five first round pick.

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Speaker 4: They don't want it to pay somebody, so they got

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Speaker 4: a twenty six first so they're paying Turner.

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Speaker 3: And then Tyrese Haliburton.

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Speaker 4: Gets hurt in Game seven, and Turner was He was

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Speaker 4: okay in the finals. He wasn't great. He averaged like

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Speaker 4: ten to four and it's not great when you're six

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Speaker 4: foot ten center, seven foot whatever you want to call him.

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Speaker 4: He's averaging four rebounds a game. That's like less than

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Speaker 4: Ni Smith Obi top in Like, it wasn't great, But

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Speaker 4: it's tough to find guys like that who can stretch

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Speaker 4: the floor and hit threes. Be a written protector. I

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Speaker 4: know he's a no time All Star, but all signed

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Speaker 4: to put it to the Pacers keeping him. And now

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Speaker 4: reports are coming out that the Pacers Cheap owner did

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Speaker 4: not want to go into the luxury tax because they

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Speaker 4: don't think they can win a championship next year without Haliburton.

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Speaker 4: And according to reports, the Pacers only offered him three

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Speaker 4: years twenty million dollars I'm sorry, sixty million, which is

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Speaker 4: twenty MILLI year. So the Pacers to keep a guy

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Speaker 4: who they've had for ten years, the longest tenured pacer

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Speaker 4: on the roster, a guy who don't trade rumors for

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Speaker 4: the last five years, they offered him three for sixty

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Speaker 4: mil twenty MILLI year. The Bucks said, whoa, we can

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Speaker 4: offer four an extra year for one hundred and seven,

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Speaker 4: so that's like twenty six million dollars a year. Of

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Speaker 4: course he's gonna take more money, of course, and I

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Speaker 4: just this whole idea of loyalty. Hey, attorney, you should

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Speaker 4: have stayed with us. No, the Pacers owner cheaped out.

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Speaker 4: Now there are reports he hasn't been in the luxury

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Speaker 4: tax in over twenty years. He don't want to cut

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Speaker 4: that check except things have changed. You went to the

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Speaker 4: conference finals, and now you're in the NBA Finals in

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Speaker 4: Game seven and you lose your star until you lose

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Speaker 4: the game, and all of a sudden you get cheap.

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Speaker 4: All these new rules for the second apron then the

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Speaker 4: punitive taxes. That's to prevent the big markets and the

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Speaker 4: super teams from dominating the league. Isn't it not supposed

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Speaker 4: to prevent small market teams like the Pacers from keeping

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Speaker 4: their guy, or.

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Speaker 3: The Memphis Grizzlies, who pretty quickly.

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Speaker 4: Realized, shucks, we can't do this with JJ, Triple J,

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Speaker 4: Bain and Job.

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Speaker 3: We got to get off pain. We don't want to

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Speaker 3: have to pay the luxury tax.

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Speaker 4: So what all these owners wanted is now starting to

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Speaker 4: hurt them.

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Speaker 3: And you can't do this on the cheap where you've

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Speaker 3: got no loyalty.

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Speaker 4: He's just saying, hey, Miles, sorry, man, Halliburton got hurt.

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Speaker 4: We can't offer you the big bag anymore. What I'm stunned, folks.

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Speaker 4: Pacers fans should be outraged, so should Pacers players. Coming

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Speaker 4: up next, Luca USA Soccer Big Weekend