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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. What an amazing smorgasbord of football,

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Speaker 1: starting Chiefs, Cowboys, Lions, Packers, Bears, Eagles. Then you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get Ohio State and Michigan. An Urban Meyer was seven

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Speaker 1: and oh against Michigan. He is now joining US live.

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Speaker 1: He will be joining us during a big noon kickoff

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Speaker 1: Ohio State at Michigan Saturday, nine am Eastern. I love

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Speaker 1: I love the early game. What a way to start

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Speaker 1: the day. So let's just go inside. This last year

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Speaker 1: was shocking. Listen. I get Harbaugh winning games. He's obviously

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Speaker 1: a great coach. I get you dominating the series. In

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Speaker 1: my lifetime, I've always felt Ohio States the better program,

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Speaker 1: but Michigan's been more coach reliant, whereas Ohio States just

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Speaker 1: almost always good that it doesn't even John Cooper was

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Speaker 1: winning a lot of games before they ran him out.

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Speaker 1: This game, though, did you coach it differently? Did you

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Speaker 1: feel layers of pressure that you didn't when you face

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Speaker 1: Purdue Iowa or even a big game that was a

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Speaker 3: Colin, It's not even close the pressure, And I agree,

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Speaker 3: I think it's that Ohio State. It might be worse.

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Speaker 3: You know, I talked to Jake Butt today and and

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Speaker 3: you know, went on that eighteen and nineteen game run

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Speaker 3: where you won, and I still felt the pressure was

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Speaker 3: And it wasn't that week, it wasn't that day, it

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Speaker 3: was pretty much all year round that you just you

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Speaker 3: could not lose that game. And a lot of that's

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Speaker 3: probably internal pressure. But the great State of Ohio, now

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Speaker 3: you know, there's no Michigan State, there's no other rival.

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Speaker 3: This is the game, and this is you know, say

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Speaker 3: answer your question, immense pressure.

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Speaker 1: Now, Ohio State's got better personnel right now. But Underwood

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Speaker 1: in Marsh for Michigan are playmakers. I like Marsh as

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Speaker 1: much as any receiver Michigan has had in a decade.

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Speaker 1: I think he's really special. They're kids, they're young. If

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Speaker 1: Michigan is to win this game, they're at home. That helps.

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Speaker 1: If you are Ohio State, what would worry you? Because

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Speaker 1: I can see Underwood just I could see Michigan saying,

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Speaker 1: wild talent. What would worry you if you're a Buckeye?

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Speaker 3: Would worry means? Is a shortened game. It's going to

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Speaker 3: be sloppy. I'm understanding snowing and cold and all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden. If I'm coaching Underwood, I'm going to double

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Speaker 3: tape his ankles. I might even put a necro on him.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna run that guy. I'm going to get first downs.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to shorten the game and then read job

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Speaker 3: at halftime. But I'm going to get to that halftime

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Speaker 3: with a short and slow game and try to play

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Speaker 3: field position ball. Because Ohio State has more talent and

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Speaker 3: a lot of it's going to be dependent on these

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Speaker 3: Jeremiah and Carnell Tate. If they play, it's a whole

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Speaker 3: different game. If they don't, you know, the Ohio State

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Speaker 3: is still a little bit more talent, but it's now

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Speaker 3: a little more equal What's the great equalizer? The quarterback

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Speaker 3: run and this kid's a freak. You know, I'd have

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Speaker 3: them take care of the ball. Say get ready, pal,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna put you in Heisman contation next year because

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Speaker 1: If Tate doesn't player Jeremiah Smith, both receivers are banged up. Now,

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Speaker 1: if it's snowing and blowing sideways, you're not going deep

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Speaker 1: you could be missing receivers. What about the psychology with that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they did a masterclass in bringing Julian

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Speaker 1: So I watched the USC Michigan game, and it's hard

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Speaker 1: Why they were awful of that game.

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Speaker 3: I can't unsee that as well. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 3: but you know, softer schedules tend to make you look better.

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Speaker 3: in Southern cal That was a bad day for the Wolverines.

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Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of USC, Lincoln's zero to five

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Speaker 1: that's an SEC team. They are they are physical and

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Speaker 3: I know Lincoln. I don't know him like this. If

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Speaker 3: I did, I'd probably go visit him and I'd say,

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Speaker 3: when he handed off the play calling duties because he

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Speaker 3: trying to think the last time that a play caller

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Speaker 3: repeat with what he did at Oklahoma. Great offenses, bad defenses,

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Speaker 1: So I have defended Lane Kiffen. People say it's going

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Speaker 1: to tarnish his reputation if he leaves, and I'm like, well,

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Speaker 1: his reputation is he leaves and he's a great offensive coach.

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Speaker 1: That's what he is. That's why keeps, that's why keeps

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Speaker 1: getting Nobody's giving him jobs because they think he's loyal,

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Speaker 1: they think he's great, he's a wizard offensively, and he

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Speaker 1: recruits the heck out of it. Well, let me ask

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Speaker 1: you put yourself in his position. I have said, stay

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't get involved with LSU. I know it's a

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Speaker 3: I've texted with Lane, I've talked to him, We've actually

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Speaker 3: become friends. I made this comment, I was, I'm proud

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Speaker 3: This is unchartered waters though. To leave a team that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you've never been I mean, I know you

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Speaker 1: You're you're a very competitive guy, but it doesn't drive you.

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Speaker 1: let's face it, LSU head coach, that is a big

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Speaker 1: boy jobs now, right, Ole Miss is a good job.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard Nick Saban say this with I think

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Speaker 3: Now it's just how much can you pay? And so

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Speaker 3: I would imagine if Lane Kiffin left, there's some kind

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Speaker 3: So that used to be the deciding factor. I'm going

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's go back to Ohio State Michigan. I like

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Speaker 1: Ryan Day. I've supported him, I've defended him. I think

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Speaker 3: I think Jordan loves maybe other than Jeremiah Smith the most.

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Speaker 1: He, Jeremiah Love, really is an unbelievable It was funny.

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Speaker 5: Has it at ten for Ohio State Michigan ten?

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Speaker 1: If one of their receivers plays, I like Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: A lot of people gonna be watching that puppy.

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Speaker 4: Careful with Michigan here, this is a is a rivalry,

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Speaker 5: They don't respect us.

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Speaker 4: Look at Cowherd say, and that's gonna be a blowout

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Speaker 4: Packers Lions on Thanksgiving should be good, But Colin I

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Speaker 4: a recipe for disaster. They're saying he's a full participant

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I did bet the Packers here early.

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Speaker 5: If your quarterback it's one hit.

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Speaker 4: Shoulder, Aden Hutchetson plants him, he's coming out and then

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Speaker 4: The Lions played very poorly in one. If I had

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Speaker 4: Mayfield and Tampa at home. Baker Mayfield and Tamar are

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Speaker 5: Should have won that game.

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Speaker 1: The Lions are talented right now. They're not good, They're

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Speaker 4: Let's move on to Christian McCaffrey. Last night he was tremendous.

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Speaker 4: McCaffrey on pace with almost balance, seven hundred ninety six

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Speaker 1: your hands around. Barry Sanders and McCaffrey might as well

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Speaker 1: be a slot receiver. He's that good. He's the there's three.

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Speaker 1: Those three backs to me, are different than anybody I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen.

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Speaker 5: It's funny every week people are like the media. I

435
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Speaker 5: should say, is clamoring, who's.

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Speaker 4: The best player in the league at Jimir Gibbs, it's

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Speaker 4: b Jon Robinson. Let's just take a deep breath. Those

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Speaker 4: guys look really good. But Christian McCaffrey has been consistently dominant.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look at look at this most combined rush

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Speaker 4: attempts in targets this season.

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Speaker 5: That's almost one hundred more than Jonathan Taylor. That's insane.

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Speaker 5: Now I do worry about him in the playoffs. They're

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Speaker 5: gonna need him.

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Speaker 4: I would give a little more Brian Robinson, but that's

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Speaker 4: just me. Final story, Colin, we are going to Zach

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Speaker 4: Taylor and the bunglesp It's official. Joe Burrow is going

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Speaker 4: to make his return on Thursday night against the Ravens.

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Speaker 5: Burrow has missed the last nine games with Turftoe Turftow serious.

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Speaker 4: As you can see with Rock Perdy, Bengals are one

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Speaker 4: in eight in that stretch, said Taylor. I anticipate him playing,

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Speaker 4: but will continue to work through the week.

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Speaker 5: There is no way that America is going to be

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Speaker 5: subjected to Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 4: Okay, on Thanksgiving Night, we got to get Joe Burrow

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Speaker 4: against Lamar.

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Speaker 5: Three good games, should.

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Speaker 1: Be right, Yeah, no, I'm it's worth watching Jmack with

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Speaker 1: the news.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by.

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Speaker 1: What's the Herd Line news? We go to Cleveland next

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Speaker 1: to check in on the pulse of Shadeur Sanders and

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Speaker 1: the fandoms surrounding him.

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Speaker 2: Next, be sure to catch live editions of The Herd

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Speaker 2: weekdays and noon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: He has been covering the Cleveland Browns in the NFL

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Speaker 1: since the mid eighties, host of the Daily Grossy Tony Grossy,

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Speaker 1: You does such a great job. Cleveland's got great reporters

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Speaker 1: on this team, covering the team. So Tony Grossy is

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Speaker 1: joining us. So what a time to be alive and

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Speaker 1: be a Cleveland Brown fan. So I want to take

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Speaker 1: people back. You've always had strong opinions, you back them

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Speaker 1: up on the air, you go to the games. You

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Speaker 1: and the Schador had a little thing earlier this year

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Speaker 1: which we talked about the last time you were on

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Speaker 1: his show. And I think he's a good kid. My

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Speaker 1: knock on him. He's a little too jovial and playful

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Speaker 1: for my taste. Is that a fair criticism from somebody

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Speaker 1: like yourself, Tony? That covers him well.

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Speaker 6: Playful is the perfect adjective for him.

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Speaker 7: He's even used that word himself, and he's even said

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Speaker 7: I'm two playful for some people. So I like the

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Speaker 7: fact that he's aware of that. He's the kind of

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Speaker 7: guy Colin that you interview and you can't come away

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Speaker 7: without smiling. He'll say or do something that'll just make

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Speaker 7: you smile, and that's he's a very pleasant guy. But

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Speaker 7: if you're a teammate, I don't know, your criticism might

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Speaker 7: be more directed toward If he's a teammate, Do you

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Speaker 7: want a guy who's more of a leader in a

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Speaker 7: different way, you know. But he had a lot to

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Speaker 7: be playful about in his first NFL start.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So when I watched the game Tony, I was like, Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's the Colorado guy. He moves well, and I never

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Speaker 1: bought into the fact that he was a pocket quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He moves, you know, he's not Golfer Stafford. He moves fine.

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Speaker 1: The thing I like about him, and I think you

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Speaker 1: have to admit this, some people Tony are negative or

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Speaker 1: they're safe, and they kind of suck the oxygen oxygen

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Speaker 1: out of a room. He doesn't. He takes big swings,

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Speaker 1: he throws it downfield. I think pro athletes who are

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Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty eight, twenty nine, I think they like

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Speaker 1: playing with him. I mean, you're in the locker room

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Speaker 1: after the game. I think players privately would prefer Shador

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Speaker 1: over Dylan. What do you make of that?

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Speaker 7: Well, after after seeing him play his first game, I

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Speaker 7: would agree with you. But I would say his his

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Speaker 7: ability to make splash plays.

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Speaker 6: They had really two of them in the in the

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Speaker 6: Vegas game.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 7: Those are two plays that Gabriel didn't make for six games.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 7: And there's a viral video of Miles Garrett, who was

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Speaker 7: on the bench at the time with the offense on

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Speaker 7: the field, when Gabriel made that play to Isaiah Bond

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Speaker 7: and he was like, Oh my gosh, I've never seen

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Speaker 7: that all season.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 6: That's what they like, right, That's what any teammate would like.

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Speaker 6: Not Uh.

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Speaker 7: It's not just shoot walking on the field and infusing

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Speaker 7: everyone with energy. It's plays like that that give your

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Speaker 7: team energy, and unfortunately for him, Gabriel was not able.

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Speaker 5: To do that.

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Speaker 1: So Tony Grossey joining us. If you're listening on radio,

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Speaker 1: long time respected beat writer for Cleveland. He's got the

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Speaker 1: daily Grossy at Tony Grossey. He's a Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame selection committee. They give those opportunities to grown ups.

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Speaker 1: I don't have one of those, So Tony, let's start

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Speaker 1: with this. I said, you can't trust the internet. If

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Speaker 1: you listen to the internet. Everybody wants Kevin Stefanski fired

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland. I think he's excellent. I thought the game

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Speaker 1: plan was smart. I loved the wildcat down at the

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Speaker 1: goal line. I thought that was so smart. It was

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Speaker 1: a total off speed pitch. When you talk to reasonable

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Speaker 1: people in Cleveland, not crazy guy yelling on talk radio.

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Speaker 1: What do they think of Stefanski.

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Speaker 6: Well, he's in his sixth season.

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Speaker 7: He's got two Coach of the Year awards and two

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Speaker 7: playoff seasons, which is a lot better than any of

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Speaker 7: his predecessors in the expansion era of the Browns.

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Speaker 6: We're talking twenty six years.

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Speaker 7: But beyond the and he's been saddled with quarterback issues.

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Speaker 7: You know, he's had like thirteen starting quarterbacks in six years.

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Speaker 7: Colin and I think Shadoor is his sixth or seventh

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Speaker 7: in the last two.

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Speaker 6: Or three years.

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Speaker 7: So it's tough to create an offense when you're constantly

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Speaker 7: having a different guy at quarterbacks.

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Speaker 6: So I think he deserves a break there.

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Speaker 7: The problem as an example of what you're saying about

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Speaker 7: the Internet. You love those two those direct snaps, so

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Speaker 7: did I. But the fact is Shoudur was off the

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Speaker 7: field on those formations and Internet people are claiming that's

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Speaker 7: another example that's the fantasy doesn't and doesn't want him

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Speaker 7: as his quarterback. They were effective. You know, if the

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Speaker 7: Kansas City coach does.

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Speaker 6: That, he's brilliant.

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Speaker 7: But now you know it's like, well he doesn't trust

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Speaker 7: s even in the red zone. What kind of a

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Speaker 7: coach is that, But that's what we're facing here. The

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Speaker 7: whole fan base has been polarized as a result of

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Speaker 7: this kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: Tony GROSSI joining us listen. They have two first round picks.

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Speaker 1: I think it's an overrated quarterback draft, and I think

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Speaker 1: they're too darn good to get the number one pick.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of bad teams in this league. I

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Speaker 1: actually love the Cleveland GM. I like the coach. Miles

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Speaker 1: Garrett's unbelievable. Jerry Judy drives me nuts, but he's talented.

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Speaker 1: I think they have talent. All bad, all losing teams

572
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Speaker 1: are not equal. I like a lot of Cleveland's roster

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Speaker 1: and leadership. I think Jimmy Haslam has acknowledged his mistake

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Speaker 1: with Deshaun I appreciate that. Don't they have to draft

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Speaker 1: the quarterback? Isn't that? I mean, don't they? Or what

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Speaker 1: if Shitar wins four straight? Like, where are we with that?

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Speaker 7: Well, that's where we are on the daily, daily, daily debate.

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Speaker 6: What if he does this? What if he does that?

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Speaker 6: I think the Browns.

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Speaker 7: Went into this season, uh not believing either of their

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Speaker 7: quarterbacks they drafted were the final answer.

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Speaker 6: But they're not closed minded enough to rule.

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Speaker 7: It out and right now, Schidor has you know the

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Speaker 7: runway to maybe make it a very difficult decision. I'm

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Speaker 7: of the opinion that that you can't let if if

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Speaker 7: there is one of the who knows who's going to

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Speaker 7: stay in a Dante more the sellers are they going

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Speaker 7: to stay or not? Let's let's see what what what

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Speaker 7: the class looks like. But if there is a quality

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Speaker 7: quarterback within their reach. They're currently six in the draft

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Speaker 7: order with their first of their two picks.

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Speaker 6: I don't think you could pass.

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Speaker 7: It by because the unique situation here, unlike any other team,

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Speaker 7: is you have the Deshaun Watson salary cap consequence hanging

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Speaker 7: over it. Eventually that's going to be removed, might be

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Speaker 7: next year, or they might take another year. But you

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Speaker 7: need workie quarter with their rookie contracts ye on your roster,

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Speaker 7: you know. So that's a little bit unique about the

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Speaker 7: Cleveland situation. I think it'll play out. We won't know

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Speaker 7: the final answer until it plays out. Shaders of the opinion,

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Speaker 7: I'm your guy, right, you got a lot of that

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Speaker 7: kind of confidence.

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Speaker 6: But I don't think the Browns have ruled anything out

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Speaker 6: at this point.

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Speaker 1: Is Dion ever around town.

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Speaker 6: He hasn't been to Cleveland yet. Of course he showed

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Speaker 6: up in Vegas.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and that made for you know, a big event

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Speaker 7: as big an event of two and eight teams clashing

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Speaker 7: that will ever be seen with Dion there and Shuder's debut.

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Speaker 7: But no, he has not been to Cleveland that I

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Speaker 7: know of during training camp or or at all during

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Speaker 7: the season.

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Speaker 1: It's got a t bow feel. The difference is, I

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Speaker 1: think Shador can start in this league. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he's a high end starter. Maybe he's a bridge quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you know which. By the way, I Bry watched Bryce

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Speaker 1: Young last night. I think Bryce may be a bridge,

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Speaker 1: not a franchise. But Tony it's fun to watch. I

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Speaker 1: give him a real fighting chance against the Niners. Niners

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Speaker 1: in a short week. Chad, that Cleveland defense at home

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Speaker 1: is nasty. I love that you came on our show today.

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Speaker 1: You're a busy guy and I appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: But Colin, there has never been a Cleveland Browns quarterback

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Speaker 7: to win his first two starts ever in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: You could go back to Otto Graham in nineteen forty six.

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Speaker 7: Never since he joined the NFL in nineteen fifty, so

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Speaker 7: he could truly be legendary if he would do it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, if Shadura goes to and zero, I'll bet tore

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Speaker 1: Off on taking a quarterback.

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Speaker 6: It's good for our business. I know that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it Hey, Tony, thank you, thank you, Collen. He's

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Speaker 1: a real pro Tony GROSSI. And it's not easy when

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Speaker 1: you get into one of those crazy, a little eventual market.

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Speaker 1: I guess every place is provincial. Cleveland is rough. But

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Speaker 1: uh oh, wouldn't that be great? By the way, I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 1: what if Chadur out plays Rock Party? What j Mark

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Speaker 1: won't show up?

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Speaker 5: Give me a break?

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Speaker 4: I mean rock Purty outplayed Patrick Mahomes lost, I showed up.

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Speaker 5: You know what do you want me to do?

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, Schadeur's not going against rock Pert, He's

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Speaker 4: going against a depleted Niners defense.

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Speaker 5: All right, he should play well. I don't. I'm worried

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Speaker 5: about Purty.

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Speaker 4: But if this line drops far enough, I'm taking the Niners, buddy.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, he's just a better team.

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Speaker 1: Already. I already turned my picks in. I've never done

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Speaker 1: I've never done a blazing five on Thanksgiving week that

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Speaker 1: I remember. It's a weird week. It's like, I can't

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Speaker 1: bet these games, and he totally you know what, America,

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Speaker 1: I'm on a heater. I didn't have a good week.

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Speaker 1: I was two and three, but I'm still like sixty

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Speaker 1: one percent. I think I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna sleep,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna sleep on. I think I'm gonna do it.

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Speaker 5: Why would you not?

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 5: Why?

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, football is fun. Yeah, let's let's give

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Speaker 1: the audience fun.

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Speaker 5: There you go.

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Speaker 1: We were always voting for fun. I don't have a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame vote. I have a fun vote.