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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Jenna Kramer and I've heart radio podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right, Ben, got anything?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but a discussion on our baby backs.

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Speaker 2: Baby backs, it's a struggle.

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Speaker 3: It's a major struggle. Because I'm now on muscle relaxes.

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Speaker 2: Great.

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Speaker 3: So if I fall asleep on your lap during the podcast, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, why would you like to elaborate?

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Speaker 4: But I don't think it's any coincidence. And we both

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Speaker 4: have the exact same injury. Okay, different sides of minds

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Speaker 4: on the left side, goes on the right, but the

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Speaker 4: exact same injury on our backs. And there's one common denominator,

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Speaker 4: and it's a thirty pound meatball that we lift and

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Speaker 4: put down and lift and put down and lift and

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Speaker 4: put down god knows how many times a day. So

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Speaker 4: we need to start treating them like a dumbbell and think, okay, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Listening, await here, how do I do it? I don't

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Speaker 3: pivot my back. I bend my knees.

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Speaker 4: So and the point where we're going to switch in

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Speaker 4: then and out to go with the chiropractical on a daily.

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Speaker 2: Basis, Yeah, all right, I'm going to go during his

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Speaker 2: first nap, and then can you go during the second nap?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, since we finished podcasting chiropractic.

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Speaker 2: It's it's interesting because I pulled mine out treating it

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Speaker 2: like I bent over when I was putting him on

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Speaker 2: the ground, and it was not bending. The knees is

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Speaker 2: definitely in that dead lift position. And that's when my

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Speaker 2: first spasmed. And I've been going now and I went

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Speaker 2: the before the podcast to the chiropractor and I asked him.

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Speaker 2: I was like, when will the pain stop? Because it's

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Speaker 2: a constant throbbing. It keeps me up at night, and

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Speaker 2: he's like, I mean, I was like, does it ever

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Speaker 2: go away? He goes some don't and I'm like, are

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Speaker 2: you serious? This is going to be a thing. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to constantly feel.

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Speaker 4: Well, We're going to have to manage it and treat

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Speaker 4: it and love a different way, love a different life.

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Speaker 2: Well that's when he said, you know, He's like, I'd

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Speaker 2: like for you to try to get on a steroid.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't think anyone wants to see

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Speaker 2: me on a steroid. I love my husband, So I'm like,

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Speaker 2: can we do everything before that's like my last two

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Speaker 2: options are steroid and then surgery because I'm like, i

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Speaker 2: can't sleep. It's constantly like shooting down nerve pain. I

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Speaker 2: can't you know, I'm having a tough time working out.

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Speaker 2: But I think when I came back from New York

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Speaker 2: is when your back was really bad. And I think

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Speaker 2: it was because you had the kids all day, because

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Speaker 2: that's when mine's really bad too, is when I have

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Speaker 2: like when you're gone traveling and I have the kids,

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Speaker 2: I e roumen.

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Speaker 4: It's not so much pecking them up, because when you

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Speaker 4: peck them up, you can binge on these and then

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Speaker 4: go from law to high.

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Speaker 3: It's putting them.

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Speaker 2: Down, which I had a prototype that I was making

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Speaker 2: to try and get patented for. Like when I got

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Speaker 2: my boob job done, my first thought was, well, Jason

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Speaker 2: was still in a crib and I'm not supposed to

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Speaker 2: lift a baby. But my favorite part of the night

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Speaker 2: is rocking the you know, rocking the baby, reading the stories,

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Speaker 2: and then putting my baby into the crib. And I

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Speaker 2: was like, how do I do that with a boob job?

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Speaker 2: And then I'm like, how do people do? Is the

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Speaker 2: bad back? So now we're putting Roman because we're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to lower his setting now that he's officially standing

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Speaker 2: up and about to be very courageous with his climbing

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Speaker 2: over things. So, but my prototype thing was to have

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Speaker 2: a crib where you can open it essentially it work

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Speaker 2: and lock, and then you can such like a cage essentially, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then you open it and then you can just

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Speaker 2: instead of bending over the crib you place, you open

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Speaker 2: it and then place them in like that where you

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Speaker 2: can actually bend down and put in. But there were

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Speaker 2: so many warnings and there were so many potential lawsuits

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Speaker 2: that could happen, like you know, if they unlock it somehow,

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Speaker 2: or there wasn't any way to fully get the patent

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Speaker 2: that would make it where I didn't get sued and

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Speaker 2: send a person for injuries. Yeah, I can imagine, but

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Speaker 2: I'm like, why isn't there something like that, because I'm

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Speaker 2: thinking it is so hard to put him down in

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Speaker 4: He just look like a little slide and that the

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Speaker 2: I feel bad because yesterday when I put him in,

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Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, sorry, buddy, that was a

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Speaker 3: Just said to me.

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Speaker 4: We're in the park the bikes and I was walking

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Speaker 4: Roman and the stroller and Jase comes psychling all the bait.

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Speaker 3: He's like, what are you doing?

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Speaker 5: I was like what.

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Speaker 3: He's like, you're so slow. I was like, I've got

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Speaker 3: a sloth, embarrassing him in the park.

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Speaker 2: Step Dad's embarrassing him. No, it's I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: they probably they say a lot like come on, Alan,

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Speaker 2: you're slow, and so you do walk painfully slow. But

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Speaker 2: now with the bad back, it's like.

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Speaker 4: I remember England training all the time I've been doing

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Speaker 4: the set pieces and how they came ow, can you

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Speaker 4: walk faster?

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Speaker 2: Not a chance? Wait, Harry Kane would say that to you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because what I used to used to walk through

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Speaker 4: the set pieces and you're like, can you walk faster?

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Speaker 3: I'm focusing on while I walk.

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Speaker 2: Why what is those slow?

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Speaker 3: Walk? It's not slow, it's just how I walk A

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Speaker 3: lot of ency. Will you see me?

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Speaker 4: A lot of the time when I'm walking, I'm thinking,

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Speaker 4: so I don't think about walking. I'm thinking about what

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Speaker 4: I'm processing. I can't walk fast and think.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'll just never forget that time that I left

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Speaker 2: something on the plane and the the zero like the

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Speaker 2: negative percent of any sort of urgency to turn around.

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Speaker 2: I mean even the slow the turnaround was like a

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Speaker 4: It's just how my body operates. When you when we

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Speaker 4: walk outside around the neighborhood, you walk so quickly that

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Speaker 4: I'm almost like, Okay, I'm going to.

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Speaker 3: Jog your walk?

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Speaker 4: Is that a rather jog than try and walk fast?

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Speaker 4: Because it's shape of my legs as well. My legs

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but has a great great song for that, that

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Speaker 2: bow Legged one, doesn't You've never heard that song? The

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Speaker 2: bow Legged One?

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Speaker 1: Ha ha?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's your name? I was singing the third day

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Speaker 2: with Sarah Bryce in the car, and I was like Ellen.

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Speaker 4: Hanging out the sun. Yep, I've got an idea of

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Speaker 4: that future anyways.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so today's but yes, the back's so fun. Gotta

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Speaker 2: love our babies and we just got to learn how

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Speaker 2: to lift them a little better, and I have started

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Speaker 2: slowing down on our walks. This week's adult education, We've

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Speaker 2: got Joe and Hannah Feminella coming on. They have a

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Speaker 2: dating app. I'm curious. Wait, have you ever been on

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Speaker 2: a dating app? M? I don't know this answer?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not not freaking there's nowhere.

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Speaker 2: Yes, have you have you ever been a dating app?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Which one?

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Speaker 3: I'm not disclosing that? Why because this isn't like talking

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Speaker 4: I would always I would always, you know what, I

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Speaker 4: would create a profile and then go to sleep and

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Speaker 3: Up like delete it, delete it now. I just didn't

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Speaker 2: Okay, which dating app? I'm going to disclose one of

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Speaker 2: my most embarrassing dating apps. So I would like for

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Speaker 2: you to be vulnerable.

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Speaker 4: As one of the most embarrassing app that you were

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Speaker 4: part of one moment when you had the app.

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Speaker 2: No app that I was on.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I was on Hinge for a little.

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Speaker 2: While you were on a Hinge.

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Speaker 3: Disgusting? Makes me?

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Speaker 2: What profile picture to Jeeves? I bet you I could.

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Speaker 2: I could guess which one was it? The England one?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Was this before England or after England?

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Speaker 3: Why would I put that up and then everyone would

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Speaker 2: So gee, when you're modeling pigs, your little bluest I'm

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Speaker 2: like that that farmer with the with the uh, the lumberjack,

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Speaker 2: the lumberjack jacket on me, the presence. What did you

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Speaker 2: say you were looking for on the dating app?

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Speaker 4: I would never write anything, so it was just a

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Speaker 4: picture blank?

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Speaker 2: Did you put your name?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Would you put you can't you have to put a

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Speaker 4: I think it might have put as at one point ar.

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Speaker 2: And what did you say? Like? What did you what

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Speaker 2: would you would you say? I won't use any None

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Speaker 2: of this will be used against you in a court

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Speaker 2: of all with your wife. I swear James lost words. Okay?

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Speaker 2: Did you say what you liked, what you didn't want

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Speaker 2: or what you were looking for? Was it like long

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Speaker 2: walks on the beach with the love like kidding? Would

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Speaker 2: you put? You have to put something? Because hinge, I

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Speaker 2: will say. The one cool thing about Hinge is it's

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Speaker 2: very it's stylistically cool and it's different where it's more

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Speaker 2: it's the cooler of the apps where you can put

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Speaker 2: pictures and kind of really get to know someone's life

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Speaker 2: a little bit through photos I think.

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Speaker 4: I can't remember what I used to put, but it

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Speaker 4: was very minimal as you can imagine.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever meet anybody from the app?

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Speaker 3: Let my photos do the talking?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, barf? Did you did you ever meet

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Speaker 2: anyone from the app? Go away? Come on, give us

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Speaker 2: give us the.

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Speaker 3: What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Maybe not?

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Speaker 2: It's a yes or no question.

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Speaker 3: Yes I did.

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Speaker 2: That's nice to go.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Mike, don't to ask you a question. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 3: if you go back to your single and extremely hungry days.

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Speaker 2: Thank you you mean hi, I just got fake boobs

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Speaker 2: and I just got divorced.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we'll slip back here anyway.

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Speaker 4: My question, if you have to go back to those days,

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Speaker 4: if you're to rewind the clock, what would you have

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Speaker 4: on a dating app that was they didn't have access

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Speaker 4: to what?

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Speaker 3: What thing would you have on there?

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Speaker 2: What thing would I have on there?

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Speaker 3: What do you mean it's different?

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Speaker 4: Maybe it was a safety thing, or maybe it was

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Speaker 4: like so, what I'm talking about was it would be

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Speaker 4: Weren't up to scratch. Well, just little things. Now I

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Speaker 3: If somebody gets rejected, they might have some negative desire.

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Speaker 4: See why they maybe don't monitor that, but it would good,

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Speaker 2: Well, let's get the experts on Joe and Hannah Feminilla

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Speaker 4: I don't want anything I've saying for you to go

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Speaker 4: And I just thought like, okay, if there's something that

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Speaker 5: It's also a kind of a nice way to bring

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Speaker 2: That's where I think it's great. And that's where there's

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Speaker 3: So tell us about you because we're really interested.

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Speaker 2: Are we really and what you.

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Speaker 2: So I agree with that piece, But the I guess

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Speaker 1: I think that it's very Again, I think all the

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Speaker 4: But how do they cancel if someone wants to counsel

442
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:45,680
Speaker 4: through the app?

443
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you'll get an alert saying like, yeah it is.

444
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 1: We try and do our best because, like I said,

445
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 1: dating is so sensitive, so you try and want to

446
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,400
Speaker 1: make the whole experience as good as possible.

447
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's well, I like the way.

448
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 4: I like the way that you guys almost cut fill

449
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 4: the bills and get straight to the get straight to

450
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 4: the date.

451
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do like that piece. How many how many

452
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 2: swipes or do you allow in the app?

453
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 1: So you could have ten date requests per day unless

454
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: you're a paying user. And again that's not to get

455
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 1: people to become paying users. That's to say, like seeing

456
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 1: ten people is sending ten dates? Is enough dates to

457
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 1: send in one day?

458
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like how many people that

459
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 2: can you? Can you see in the day?

460
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 1: So you could access many as you want, but you

461
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: could only send ten date requests?

462
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, because I know, like and Ria, they only

463
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 2: gave you like twelve guys a day or something for

464
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 2: the twenty four hour process.

465
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 3: They only gave you twelve, only twelve.

466
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 2: Well, but I mean it's it's like a needle in

467
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 2: a haystack trying and like, is there like Europe and

468
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 2: like all over the place?

469
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: Where did you guys meet if you don't mind me asking?

470
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 2: Well through Instagram? But he was living in Europe and uh,

471
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 2: the very persistently and then.

472
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 1: Lightly and respectfully Instagram is the best dating app?

473
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 2: No, why would you say that your your app is

474
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 2: the best dating app?

475
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 1: Right? In my opinion? Yeah, but I'm also a realist

476
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: and I feel like if you could get into somebody's

477
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,439
Speaker 1: DMS the right way, it's it's it's pretty smooth. In

478
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 1: my opinion, I don't.

479
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 2: Know, well, I think it's I mean, can you in

480
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 2: this situation. I'm obviously with the Instagram, you know, it

481
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 2: was he lived in a different country, he wasn't on.

482
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 2: We probably only would have met on the Riya app

483
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 2: if you were on that, because that's the whole you know,

484
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 2: world or whatever. But for this, how are you able

485
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 2: to set in different locations or do you have to

486
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: put specifically that location since it's obviously date in that area.

487
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's it's geolocated because obviously we really want

488
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: you guys to meet in real life. Sure, so we

489
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 1: usually recommend don't go about fifty miles because if you're

490
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: connecting with somebody fifteen miles away, what are the odds

491
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 1: you're actually going to go meet them? So yeah, we

492
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: just try our best to get people to meet in

493
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 1: person and to kind of just broaden your horizons because yeah,

494
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: ideally Raya is great, but from what I've seen, Riya

495
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: is used by really cool people that live in LA

496
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: that don't really have a genuine intention of being a relationship.

497
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 1: It's just more of like a club.

498
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,959
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, you think I'm thanks or then also just

499
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 2: been like all right, this person thinks I'm cute and

500
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 2: then like no one says high, no one does anything,

501
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 2: and it just sits there. I'm like, this is so stupid,

502
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 2: Like I'm not actually a cloud thing.

503
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have a one out. I think maybe a

504
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 5: one out one day.

505
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 2: Through Rya literally saying.

506
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Speaker 5: It just it very much felt like a validation. Huis

507
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 5: usus intentionally diaty exactly?

508
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Speaker 1: And I could speak from my experience like Hannah is

509
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: a riya user.

510
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Speaker 3: I am not.

511
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: I wasn't cool enough to be on Riot, so I

512
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 1: had to go to Hinge and when I matched with Hannah,

513
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: maybe I was, you know, not her U on paper,

514
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: superficial looking person. But we met right away and that

515
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: proof of concept work because she was like, yeah, you

516
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: look cool, let's meet and then it all happened.

517
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 2: How long you isn' married for?

518
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 5: Been married for a year and a half together? Four?

519
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 1: About four?

520
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 2: What is what is y'all's? Because you know as also

521
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 2: a relationship podcast? What is for you? I mean you

522
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: guys open talking to you about your relationship or.

523
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: No just the podcast We're an open book?

524
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 2: Okay? What is what is the best part of your

525
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 2: marriage that you guys do? So well together, and then

526
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 2: what is the thing that you guys are constantly kind

527
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 2: of looping on that you need to work on within

528
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 2: the marriage?

529
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: And do you want me to go first? I'm going

530
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Speaker 1: to say, I.

531
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Speaker 2: Know that was like a.

532
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Speaker 5: I think that perhaps some of the best things that

533
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 5: we do together is that our communication is really good,

534
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 5: and I think it has to be pretty solid for

535
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 5: the dynamic of our relationship considering the fact that we're

536
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 5: married and we also work with each other. But in

537
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 5: saying that, I think that one of the things that

538
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 5: we are constantly trying to curtail or constantly trying to

539
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 5: work on, is the boundaries of which we set within

540
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 5: our marriage versus our work life. Like we're around each

541
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 5: other twenty four seven, we work with each other, we

542
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 5: have all of these fantastic ideas, and like so many

543
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 5: times we have to kind of look at each other

544
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 5: and be like stop because it's at eleven thirty at night,

545
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 5: we're lying in bed and we're like, what do you

546
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 5: think about this? For the apple? How does this work?

547
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 5: And so I think it's just I mean, within any relationship,

548
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 5: I think that there's always this thing of boundaries, but

549
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 5: even more heavily accented when it comes to our neck.

550
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Speaker 1: That was beautifully said. And that's why I wanted to

551
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: go first, because I knew you're going to say something

552
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: really great.

553
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see, that's what happens with us as well.

554
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 3: Of course he says something amazing. I'm like, has to

555
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 3: follow that up.

556
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I really like that we're best friends.

557
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: And I really mean that because I really just like

558
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: her as a person, so I can be around her

559
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: all day. You hear those marriages where it's like the

560
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 1: guy can't wait to get out of the house to

561
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: just get his own mean time, which I also do

562
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 1: love that, But I just love being best friends with her.

563
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: And when you're in love and attract is your best friend,

564
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: it's really cool. And the other thing is, I think

565
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: I'm a very stubborn, like New York Italian guy or

566
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: you know, it used to be my way of the highway,

567
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: and then I got a little bit more emotionally intelligent

568
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: because of her, And I think kind of just continuing

569
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: on that adoption of Okay, be a little bit more

570
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: in tune with your emotions, communicate and articulate your words,

571
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: don't be shut off. I'm still working on all that,

572
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: but yeah.

573
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 3: It's not what you see, it's how you see.

574
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 6: It, right, right?

575
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 2: Do you guys want kids?

576
00:26:59,480 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 1: Oh?

577
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean the app is kind of a

578
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 5: baby at the moment. You know, there's so much time

579
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 5: and energy and has to go into it to create

580
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 5: something that hopefully will make this world a little bit better.

581
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 5: But children is definitely very high.

582
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: I know.

583
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: Prior to this, when how long has an app been launched?

584
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: For? So technically four years, but the first two years

585
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: it was kind of just a project that I paid

586
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: for and around by myself. And then in May of

587
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two we got our first round of funding

588
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: and it's kind of been a real business since May

589
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty two.

590
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 2: Okay, and then what is is there something that you

591
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 2: want to add to the app that you're like, okay,

592
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: this is kind of our next goal within the app.

593
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, right now the app is solely for singles

594
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 1: and dating. Where it's going to evolve into is more

595
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: of a social app for couples, friends, and family members

596
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: where it's the same process. But for example, say you

597
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: guys are in LA or wherever you are, and you

598
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: have a trip to New York. Instead of telling those friends, Hey,

599
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 1: it'd be nice to catch up with you guys when

600
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: we're there. Why not just send them an actual date

601
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: invite through the app? Or had it Alway says it'd

602
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: be nice if you could send me a date through

603
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: first rounds on Me and we can kind of set

604
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: up our once a week dates through the app. And

605
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: that's where I want to go in the future, is

606
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: it's going to be more of a social app and

607
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: a social calendar for everyone rather than just singles.

608
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: I love that idea because I feel like, even for girls' nights,

609
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 2: it's like we have our girl group chat and it's like,

610
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: all right, hey, guys, throw out dates, you know, like

611
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: when can you do it? And then we kind of

612
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 2: throw out things, but then they don't really match up,

613
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: and then by that point we kind of just forget

614
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 2: and the app, you know, then the conversation kind of

615
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: goes away. And the other day, you know, at a

616
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: friend that was like, all right, Saturday at this time,

617
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 2: like let's let's do that. It's like when you actually

618
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: set something, I feel like that happens more than be

619
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: like let's get together, when do you want to? And

620
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: then it's just never really followed there on.

621
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 5: Very rarely get out of the group chat right, which

622
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 5: is really difficult because you want to see these people,

623
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 5: especially with when it comes to girlfriends just friends in general,

624
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 5: you want to connect with them again. So that's like

625
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 5: definitely one point. But to reiterate what Joe said, I

626
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 5: feel like couples sometimes, you know, especially when you're in

627
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 5: a marriage, things get a little complacent. And so if

628
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 5: you had an opportunity to be like, hey babe, I'm

629
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 5: taking you out at this time this day, let's go,

630
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 5: it's just I think it eliminates a lot of stress

631
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 5: with a person planning it, and also like it's just

632
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 5: like a sense of chiwerry, a sense of joy for

633
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 5: the person who it's being planned for.

634
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 3: Right, Just wait till you have kids.

635
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: You guys have kids?

636
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 5: We do how many?

637
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: Four? Yeah?

638
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: Four kids? Wow?

639
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 4: If we sent each other the eight if the end

640
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,239
Speaker 4: face would be up. Sorry, we can't do that. No,

641
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 4: we need to choose another one.

642
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: Actually that's not true because if you send me a

643
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: date invite, I would have been like absolutely yes, and

644
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: well maybe.

645
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 5: The day of moneys be like I'll meet you in

646
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 5: the kitchen.

647
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: And I think there's something too to be said that

648
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 2: why I love your app is because it's nice to again,

649
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: even within our marriage too, or when I was single,

650
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: I to have a guy be like I'd like to

651
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: go on a date with you, Like I think it's

652
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: That's why I would say to you when you ask

653
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: me if you want to go on a date, I'm like,

654
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,479
Speaker 2: a plan it, yes, please, I don't want to have

655
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: to think of one more thing to like, Oh, which day?

656
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. There's something so sexy about when you

657
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: just are like, we're going out this day at this time.

658
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: I've already called the sitter things. It's like that's so

659
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: hot to a mom.

660
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 5: Me you, I'm sure, but I think it melts to

661
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 5: anybody you know, And I think that's what I think

662
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Speaker 5: when I've been dating in Los Angeles. I've been living

663
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Speaker 5: here for about thirteen years, and I've been dating in

664
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Speaker 5: Los Angeles quite a while. And I one of the

665
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 5: things where when Joe and I first natural hinge, he

666
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 5: was like, he's like, I don't want to talk too

667
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 5: much on the apps, like when can I take you out?

668
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 5: And I said tonight and he goes, okay, I'm going

669
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Speaker 5: to take you here at this time, and I was like,

670
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Speaker 5: oh and it was so sexy and it was so endearing,

671
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Speaker 5: and it was just I think that's what we're constantly

672
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 5: trying to replicate for people, is like, we know what works.

673
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 5: It's happened for us, and we're married now, right, so

674
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 5: we want to give that to other people.

675
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Speaker 1: And I could jump on that with two things that

676
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: we saw. So the when I was doing my research

677
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: building first friends of me, the number one complain I

678
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: got from women was that it was the biggest turn

679
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Speaker 1: off when guys didn't have a plan so say it's like, okay,

680
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: yeah I want to meet you, that's great, what do

681
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: you want to do? I don't know what do you

682
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: want to do? They were like such a buzzkill where

683
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: it's like now I dont actually don't want to meet

684
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Speaker 1: you anymore. And then the other thing is the reason

685
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: why I think people like being single and using gating

686
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: apps is because of the gamification and excitement of it.

687
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: And if married couples can have that using an app,

688
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: I think, like you said, that creates more of that

689
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: buzz and that energy, because yeah, being single was super

690
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: fun using a dating app, like you just swipe through

691
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: people and it's a game, and who's going to like you,

692
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: who's going to not like you? I miss that a

693
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: little bit. But obviously rude.

694
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Speaker 2: Love yes, rude, but but but it's sweet that that

695
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: you are Mannganese ever marry couples to because I would

696
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: love that. I think it'd be so cute to get

697
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: like a you know, Alan wants to take you on

698
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Speaker 2: a date tonight. It's like it gives you that excitement,

699
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: that that feeling of yeah, because even when you like

700
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: you still when you text me when we when you

701
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: say like babe on the text message, it gives me butterflies.

702
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: I don't know because it's like, yeah, I don't know

703
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: what's coming next, but it's just like it's sweet to

704
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: have that kind of excitement. So we would definitely ease

705
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: your app. My one thing though, that I want to

706
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: go to just because I'm I don't want to say

707
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: I think negative of people, but the fear of meeting

708
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: someone that you don't know freaks me out because I'm like,

709
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: if you really don't know this person, there's a lot

710
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: of obviously you know, I don't say cat fishing, but

711
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: if you don't, this person's crazy, Like what is the

712
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 2: safety precautions around meeting with someone that you don't know,

713
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Speaker 2: because I get fearful of that, of.

714
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Speaker 5: Course, and I think that that's really natural, especially within

715
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 5: the technology technological age that we live in. But I

716
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 5: think there's a couple of things which we combat first

717
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 5: and foremost, if you bring it back to our parents' days,

718
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 5: when before technology, they met at bars. They met strangers

719
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 5: at bars all of the time, at restaurants out in

720
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 5: the wild, and it was a supernatural progression. Also, we

721
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 5: really implement the fact that like, you go and meet

722
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 5: in a public place, right, don't go to a dark alley,

723
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 5: don't go to.

724
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 2: Someone's home, don't go and do it where that makes sense.

725
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 5: Go to a public place. And also just go for

726
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 5: a drink. You're not committing to a three hour dinner,

727
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 5: you're not committing to a concert, you're not committing to

728
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 5: all of these activities. You're going for a drink in

729
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 5: a public place to see if this person, if you

730
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 5: vibe with this person, and if you like it, go

731
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Speaker 5: out for dinner or go schedule a second date. But

732
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Speaker 5: we also have things implemented within the app structure to

733
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Speaker 5: kind of aid that, because I think my darling husband,

734
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 5: as he was developing this app, really understood the fears

735
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 5: of women, and as I came on board, then I

736
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 5: kind of stressed that even more so. Fifteen minutes into

737
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 5: your date, we have within the app, we have this

738
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 5: little check in that basically sends you are noticed and says, hey,

739
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 5: are you having a good time, And if you click yes,

740
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 5: then we leave you to it, and if you click no,

741
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 5: then it will send a text to your emergency contact

742
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 5: that's built in within the app, so it gives it

743
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 5: instead of like superstitiously, you know, texting your friend underneath

744
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 5: the table will be like, oh my god, get me

745
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 5: out of here. We have that kind of built in

746
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 5: just as like that extra real safety element, but we

747
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 5: also kind of counteract it with like do you think

748
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 5: of every other dating app on the planet, Like, Yeah,

749
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 5: you can sit there and talk to somebody for weeks, months,

750
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 5: but you don't really know that person, so you could

751
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 5: be still going out with a complete stranger. They could

752
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 5: have fabricated everything that they've ever told you. So it's

753
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 5: still you know, the nature of going out on dating

754
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,479
Speaker 5: apps is you are meeting a stranger. But we hope

755
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 5: that we we give people a little bit more comfort

756
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 5: in doing so.

757
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 2: That's intelligent like that, Well, I where can our listeners find,

758
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,479
Speaker 2: like for our single at the moment, listeners, where can

759
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 2: they find? The app? Is just on the app store

760
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 2: that you can download, or is it online or.

761
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 5: App store, Android, across the board anyway you find apps normally.

762
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 5: And then we obviously have like our social media that

763
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 5: have links towards towards the app as well.

764
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and hopefully our podcast gets as big as yours

765
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 1: because you're You've kind of inspired me on, like, okay,

766
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: I want to be more like them. You guys have

767
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: a nice podcast. We have a podcast as a married couple,

768
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: so yeah, but it's great inspiring us.

769
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 2: Well, oh you're sweet. Well, what what is the messaging

770
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: on your podcast? Like what do you what do you

771
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: want to do? Want people to come on? Do you

772
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 2: want to talk about your marriage? Like what is what

773
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 2: is the thread through it?

774
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: We we kind of cover everything, just human connection based.

775
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: So we don't always have single people on. We have

776
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: some couples. Obviously. We're in LA and we go to

777
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: New York, so it's a lot of we try and

778
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: get people who have somewhat of a following just to

779
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: talk about who they are as a person and what

780
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: they want in their current dating life or their single life,

781
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: and it's just kind of to humanize the world again

782
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: and just talk about who they are. But yeah, we'd

783
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: love to have you guys on as guests.

784
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: We really love that. Oh I'm curious, like because it

785
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: in the dating world, where do you think people go

786
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: wrong the most? And then within and then with you

787
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 2: guys too, where do you think you guys go wrong

788
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: the most? Together as a couple.

789
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Speaker 1: In the day, I'll speak to the dating world, you

790
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: could speak to us in the dating world. I think

791
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: that we think that there are so many options, especially

792
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 1: when you live in a big city. And I always

793
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: say this, guys in la are so disillusioned with They

794
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: all think they're going to marry some actress or supermodel

795
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: and they're waiting for that. And it's like, okay, guys,

796
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: just be a little bit more realistic and don't just

797
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: want to be with somebody because of their LA cloud.

798
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: And then once they get to their thirties their forties

799
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: and they haven't found that person yet, it's like you, well,

800
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: you just waited for the wrong things, and why don't

801
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: you just get to know people instead of always waiting

802
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: for the next best thing. The next big star to

803
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: come around, and it's just not realistic. It's just not realistic.

804
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 5: As I think that people kind of really fall prey

805
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 5: to a lot of the things that we see within

806
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 5: the dating world, which is like the paradox of choice,

807
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 5: which is kind of what Joe was just saying, like

808
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 5: this illusion of endless options when in reality that you're

809
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 5: not going to vibe with one hundred and fifty people.

810
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 5: And then also this swipe fatigue that we go through.

811
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 5: Joe touch on it earlier, but the gamification of dating

812
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 5: apps nowadays has made it almost like a social media

813
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 5: where we're just searching out validation versus searching out genuine

814
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 5: intentional dating. And I think it's if that's what you want,

815
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 5: if you want to be swiping through and you want

816
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 5: to get that kind of feeling of fulfillment that way,

817
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 5: and all the power to you. But we wanted to

818
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 5: create a space where people who are intentional datas that

819
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 5: have that, that want marriage, that want a long term relationship,

820
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 5: that want any kind of amalgamation of that, have the

821
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 5: space to be able to do so. And I think

822
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 5: in our relationship where where we go wrong, I mean

823
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 5: every marriage you go wrong, some near different areas, don't you.

824
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 5: And it's just this constant kind of constantly working to

825
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 5: be not only the best version of ourselves for ourselves,

826
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 5: for our marriage, but then also for this business that

827
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 5: we're growing. I think that even though we are quite

828
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 5: good at communication, it's something that we're constantly working on

829
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 5: because I think that not only through the podcast of

830
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 5: like talking to all of these you know, dating experts

831
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 5: or experts in their field and general communication is the

832
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 5: number one key to successful relationship. And so sometimes where

833
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 5: sometimes perhaps we don't communicate the best, but I think

834
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 5: we have a very good way of reeling it back

835
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 5: and going, WHOA don't like the way you said that, Well,

836
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 5: I don't like the way that I just talk to

837
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 5: you in that way. How do we communicate a little

838
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 5: bit better? How do we express our needs and our

839
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 5: wants in a better way?

840
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, we feel that, Yeah, I think that. Yeah. I

841
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: think it's hard to when we're in our calm and

842
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 2: centered place and we're not talking out of fear or

843
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 2: or anger. We have such great conversations, but we're both

844
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: at the place where we're talking out of our own fear,

845
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: own our own anger. It's just like we're just no

846
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: one hears anything. We're just not even He's not hearing

847
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I'm not hearing what he's saying, and

848
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: we're just firing off and we're just missing each other

849
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: every time. It's like, I love and it's like we're

850
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 2: trying to eliminate those moments where we can sit down

851
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 2: and talk from our our truthful places and our calm places,

852
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: and but it's not easy.

853
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 5: It's not And I think one of the things that

854
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 5: that we Joe and I have honed in on, especially

855
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 5: as like really recent is just understanding that men and

856
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 5: women operate and think so differently, Like I think and

857
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 5: feel in a certain way, and I'm like, why is

858
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 5: she thinking and feeling in that way? And then I

859
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 5: why am I putting that place in that expectation on him,

860
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 5: like I should be actually trying to strive to understand

861
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 5: where he's coming from and how his brain works. So

862
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 5: that's a constant balance, and I think that that what

863
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 5: you were just saying eliminates a lot of that fear

864
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 5: or that anger when I when I have sympathy or

865
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 5: empathy for trying to understand where he's coming from, and vice.

866
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 2: Versa, Joe do you agree with that.

867
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think, like I said, I was

868
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: very stubborn, and I think it takes the right woman

869
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 1: to keep make you or help you adjust. And yeah,

870
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: I listen to a lot of podcasts and a lot

871
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: of them are like Jay Shatty and about yeah couples. Yeah,

872
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: And it's just like it makes you think differently of Okay,

873
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 1: if that person's yelling at you about the dishes, which

874
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: kind of yells by all the time about the dishes,

875
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: maybe that's sound at teck to me directly. Maybe it's

876
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: something else that's bothering her that's a little bit deeper.

877
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: And the dish never.

878
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: It's never about the dishes. It's never about the thing

879
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: that they're actually.

880
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: So it's like, let me not argue about the dish.

881
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: Let me just absorb it and be Okay, she might

882
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: be dealing with something bigger than the dishes. Let me

883
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: just listen and not get so defensive, because in my mind,

884
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: doing the dish, like having a dish in the dishwasher,

885
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: is not a big deal.

886
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: Wait now I want to get today. I love dishwasher conversations.

887
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: What do you think, ABOULESB.

888
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 4: I think you spoke really well on. Sometimes it's not

889
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 4: your reaction as a part of you that you have

890
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 4: inside you that you don't want to react with. So

891
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 4: it's a part of your past that it's a part

892
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 4: of a fear and you don't that's not it's not you.

893
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 4: It's actually saying it. It's that's part of you that

894
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 4: you know that you're working on to get better, become

895
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 4: more emotionally. A lot of the time it's that part

896
00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 4: that's speaking and not what you're actually feeling. So it's

897
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 4: like for us, it's if you react to something, that's

898
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 4: for me, for me to understand now and become better understanding.

899
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, why now I.

900
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 4: Know why she's reacting like that, So that's what I

901
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 4: can react definitely to your reaction. Again, it's just I

902
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 4: think it comes from conversation. Yeah, calm conversation. We know

903
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 4: what we're like when you're in the red and I'm

904
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 4: in the red.

905
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: And we're both very stubborn too, So.

906
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to ask you guys a question too,

907
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: because I think this is kind of the opposite impact

908
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: or logic, But I actually think it's good to have

909
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 1: passionate conversations and get a little fiery from time to time,

910
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: because in my opinion, if you don't have that, then

911
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: it's kind of like you both don't care, or it's

912
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: it's too good in a way where I think those

913
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: passionate conversations mean you both care so much that you're clashing,

914
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: because I think it's important. It means you care.

915
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 2: I think you learn a lot in those moments. You know,

916
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 2: like just like he's now learned where things will that

917
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: part of me that's coming up, where that part comes from,

918
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: and which then he can understand me better. I can

919
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 2: now understand when his part comes up, where what that

920
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: part is, and how to communicate better so that he hears

921
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 2: me one way versus the other, and how to like

922
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: lean into those things, because if we never went through

923
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 2: those situations, then we're not able to grow together as

924
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 2: a couple. And yeah, I mean I love getting into

925
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: the weeds of things and going Okay, why did I

926
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 2: react this way? Why did he react this way? How

927
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 2: do we how do we communicate better to not go

928
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: straight to from you know, he skips the feeling part

929
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 2: of it and just go straight to angry. How do

930
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: we how do we like not go straight here? How

931
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: do I not go straight there? So it's it's it's

932
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: and yeah, I'm like, I love those kind of conversations.

933
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 2: I don't want to call them call arguments because I

934
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 2: think it's all part of conversation and you know, at

935
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 2: the end they you learn so much. So yeah, I don't.

936
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 2: I love to to get in the weeds of things.

937
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the coin flip can as long as

938
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 4: as long as it's not too good. I think conflict

939
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 4: can lead to solutions, so healthy, Yeah, it.

940
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 5: Has to be healthy conflicts. And I think that something

941
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 5: that perhaps has not spoken about a lot within like

942
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 5: healthy relationships and marriages, is the fact that you're going

943
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 5: to challenge each other. It's not necessarily a bad thing.

944
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 5: It may it may feel bad when it initially happens,

945
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 5: but as you were saying, it's like, if you can

946
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 5: have those constructive conversations and the new land and at

947
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 5: a better understanding of each other and your relationship as

948
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 5: a whole, like, it's the most beautiful thing. It's it's

949
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 5: kind of like just walking through the fire to be

950
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 5: able to get to the other side. And I think

951
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 5: it's necessary in building a life with each other, really

952
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 5: substantial life.

953
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: I agree. Well, I love you guys, and we'd love

954
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: to come on your podcast as well. But everyone who

955
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: is single, go grab first rounds on me. Enjoy your date,

956
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: and thank you guys so much for coming on. We

957
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: really appreciate it.

958
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 5: Thank you so much.

959
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 2: Than I would definitely use that up if I was single.

960
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: I think it's a cool concept.

961
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it cuts through the crap. Yeah, it

962
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 4: really does. So it's best less sol coudos to them

963
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 4: for being intelligent and coming up with it, because it

964
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 4: does have a unique selling point of people that are

965
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 4: actually serious about finding someone to love and being in

966
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 4: a relationship with.

967
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: So I had an app that I was going to develop.

968
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 2: It was called for Them, And then the whole concept

969
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 2: was because I had I had gone on a dating

970
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: app and created a profile for my mom and I

971
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 2: matched her with people, and then I said, here's ten guys,

972
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: and I was like, you know what, and I emailed

973
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 2: them and everything like this is her daughter. I think

974
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: you would match great with them, because it seems so

975
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: overwhelming for her to go on a dating app. So

976
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: then my brain started thinking, well, this is kind of cool.

977
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: Why don't I create an app called for them and

978
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: it's your friends, essentially picking out the batch of the

979
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 2: dudes and being like, here you go. But I just

980
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: got lazy with it and I never did it. So

981
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: if anyone wants to take the idea, I go for it.

982
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: Think in theory it's good, right.

983
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 2: I've never heard of I mean, maybe it's now happened

984
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: now there's an app for that, but I just always

985
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: thought it was so good, and I just I didn't

986
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: know how to at the time fall through with that.

987
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I've been thinking about that for ten years.

988
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: Okay, I just.

989
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 2: Gave it away. But anyways, well, I'm glad there's a

990
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: piece of me too that I've I'm so sad my

991
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 2: girlfriend who just voice memoed me earlier today about being

992
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: on apps. She's like, I didn't even like this dude

993
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: that I went out with, but now he's with this younger,

994
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 2: prettier model, and she's like, I just feel like I'm

995
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: never She's like, it's a numbers game and I'm never

996
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: going to be picked. And then my heart like broke

997
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 2: because she's so beautiful, she's successful, she's had an amazing

998
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: you know, she's an entrepreneur. I mean, she's she's got

999
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 2: a name for herself, and I'm like this is so

1000
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: sad to me that this is how she's thinking that

1001
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: she's never going to find love because of these dating apps,

1002
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: and it just makes me sad. And the dating's just

1003
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: it's so hard.

1004
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just go back to that. Yeah, I mean,

1005
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 4: it's just it's like you said, it's a numbers game.

1006
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 4: It becomes exhausting, it does.

1007
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 2: But if you want to just get straight through the crowds,

1008
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: first rounds on me, all right, see you next week.

1009
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 6: Bye.