1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in our number two Clay 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Travis Buck Sexton Show. I hope all of you are 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: having fantastic Thursdays wherever you are across this great country 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: or this great land. We got a bunch of guests 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: coming your way. By the way, Senator Ron Johnson will 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: join us. Dana Perino, you were saying at the first hour, 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: I think it's true, Buck one of the most likable 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: people in all of media, and she is pretty phenomenal. 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: And then Kashpatel from inside of the Trump White House 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: back in the day and Buck, as we went to break, 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: we were talking with Kate, a mom of three in Cleveland, 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 1: and I really do believe that there are a lot 14 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: of hats out there, a lot of moms, a lot 15 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: of grandma's, but certainly a lot of moms, suburban moms. 16 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: As we get ready for Mother's Day, a little bit 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: of a perfect segue there, Buck and Minds. Mothers will 18 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: be on the program tomorrow in the final half hour. 19 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: This is a produced Sir Ali's work. They will be on. 20 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: You'll be able to hear from our moms tomorrow at 21 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: two thirty Eastern eleven thirty on the West coast as 22 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: we get ready for Mother's Day. And I really do 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: believe that suburban moms are going to decide not only 24 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: the midterm election in six months, but also are going 25 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: to decide the twenty twenty four presidential election based on 26 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: the data if you look right now. And it's interesting. 27 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: We talked about the failure of Democrat politicians as it 28 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: pertains to schools and keeping your kids out of school, 29 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: and many of them keeping kids in masks, which is 30 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: insane as we sit here in May, over two years 31 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: after COVID kind of exploded on the map in March 32 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty in this country, and there's a lot 33 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: of talk about Roe v. Wade, And look, I'm not 34 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: claiming to speak to the millions of you out there. 35 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: Everybody has different impressions and exact lines that they draw 36 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: in their own lives. But I do think it's important 37 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: Buck to point out that this is not the safe, legal, 38 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: and rare Democrat party as it pertains to abortion. They've 39 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: become really radical such that we were just talking to 40 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: Kate in Cleveland, Ohio. We just had we got a 41 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: lot of people listening in Ohio. We're number one in Cincinnati, 42 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: We're number one in Columbus, Ohio. And there's a big 43 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: Ohio Senate race going on. JD. Vance is going to 44 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: be going up who won the Republican primary very hard, 45 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: fought a lot of good candidates in that race, either 46 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: going up against Tim Ryan, who is going to be 47 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: the Democrat. And I saw this yesterday and I gotta 48 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: give credit to him, because, man, have you been watching 49 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: Bret Bayer is really good at interviewing people buck and 50 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: getting them to actually answer questions, like actually ask questions. 51 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: Brett is excellent at the polite haymaker. You know, you're like, wait, 52 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: but it's so he's so polite. Yeah, he's got a 53 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: certain teddy bear component to him. You look at him 54 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, this guy's so nice, and then 55 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: he's just an assassin sometimes, which is what the media 56 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: should be just asking real, fair questions. That's all it's 57 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: supposed to be, real answers. And so Brent Bear had 58 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: Tim Ryan on and he said, hey, do you support 59 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: abortion in the ninth month of pregnancy? And I think 60 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: there are a lot of you out there that are 61 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: sitting around and you hear ninth month of pregnancy, and 62 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: if you're fortunate enough to have had children, ninth month 63 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: of pregnancy is mom is so big that you almost 64 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: feel like you need to put her in a willbarrow. 65 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: Stage pregnancy. Mom is not wanting to be pregnant, by 66 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: the way, in the ninth month of pregnancy in July 67 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: or August anywhere in this country, because she feels like 68 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: she's got what she does, a basic child that is 69 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: fully grown inside of her, And it's one hundred and 70 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: ten degrees outside, and you're sweating like crazy. Nine months 71 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: of pregnancy. That is, at any moment your water might break, 72 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: at any moment you might go into labor. You have 73 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: basically carried that child all the way to the very 74 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: precipice of delivery. And Buck tim Ryan said he supports 75 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: abortion in the ninth month of pregnancy. Play cut eight. 76 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: This is Brett bar pressing him on this. My question 77 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: was about any limits to abortion at any point, you know, 78 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: late term anything. But you got to leave it up 79 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: to the woman because you and I here a bunch 80 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: of well, you and I sitting here can't account for 81 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: all of the different scenarios that a woman dealing with 82 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: the complexities of a pregnancy are going through. How can 83 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 1: you and I figure that out? Oh, it's very easy, actually, 84 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: because we're not totally more rock clay. This state of 85 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: Colorado just passed a state law saying this, codifying it. 86 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: And this is what the entire abortion regime has been 87 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: built on lies, the lie that it's a constitutional right, 88 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: the lie that it was going to be all about safe, legal, 89 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: and rare. It has built on lies for decades. And 90 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: that's that's why you know, first of all, the frenzy 91 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: from the left on this and all these different explanations, 92 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: whether legal or ethical or that, they can't keep the 93 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: stories straight because none of it actually holds up really 94 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: or makes sense when you look at what they're really 95 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: advocating for a nine month old baby, and people are 96 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: probably saying, buck, what about you know, a six month 97 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: or three months? Yeah, of course, at a heart, a brain. 98 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: It is a tiny human being. It is a tiny 99 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: human beyond any doubt of science or ethics or morality. 100 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: And I mean, I would argue far before that, but 101 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: just for the purposes of discussion, let's be clear about 102 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 1: where we are in the ninth month. No person could 103 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: seriously claim that that is not a human being. And 104 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: yet and yet, Clay, you'll you'll actually have some leftists 105 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: who will arguably there's actually an ethicist at Princeton University 106 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: who's made this case publicly, but there are others who 107 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: will say, you know, we really actually shouldn't confer personhood 108 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: on a baby until a certain point post birth. Yeah, 109 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: because this is how now you're starting to get into 110 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: the same level of ethics as the Aztecs as Texs, 111 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: which were a civilization based on human sacrifice of women, 112 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: of children of slaves. I mean, now you're getting into 113 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: truly maccabre, bloody insanity. And yet this is mainstream in 114 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: a lot of Democrats press, a lot of places. You know. 115 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: So while we're going to have this discussion about what's 116 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: going on state to state, and I also got to say, Clay, 117 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: Spreme Court is now fenced off. So we keep talking 118 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: about this like it's a done deal. There are calls 119 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: across the nation from the luneist left wing psychos to 120 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: go after Supreme Court obviously conservative justices at their homes. Now, yeah, well, 121 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: I mean the reason why I wanted to play one, 122 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought Kate's call was fantastic to close 123 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: out the hour, and it got me thinking about this 124 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: situation in Ohio. But Tim Ryan Buck is running as 125 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: the most moderate. This is his claim. I am the 126 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: most moderate Democrat out there, and yet he to Brett 127 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: Bear on Fox News, said that he believes a woman 128 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: should be able to get an abortion in the ninth 129 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: month of her pregnancy. I'm sorry, I just I think 130 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: that is a wildly radical proposition. I think only like 131 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: ten percent of the American population. I mean, Buck, you 132 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: can put your hand on a nine month pregnant woman 133 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: and you can feel all the kicking, you can feel 134 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: the baby moving inside, and again you don't know when 135 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: that delivery is going to come. I mean, that's a 136 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: murder to me, it's a murder to most states. Because Buck, 137 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: think about this, if someone other than the mother in 138 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: the ninth month of pregnancy, if someone had a gun 139 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: and a nine month pregnant woman is shot and her 140 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: baby dies, that's considered two murders in many different jurisdictions 141 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: across this country because the baby, if it had been 142 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: able to be delivered, would have lived. So the state 143 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: is saying, if someone takes a gun and shoots a 144 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: nine month pregnant woman and also kills her child. That 145 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: is very often treated as two murders. What Tim Ryan 146 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: is saying while claiming to be a moderate in the 147 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: state of Ohio is evidence of how radical the abortion 148 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: lobby has become an inside of the Democrat party. We're 149 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: not talking about safe legal and Rare were talking about rape, 150 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: incest or wife of the mother related issues a month 151 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: into a pregnancy, talking about nine months and he went 152 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: on Fox News with Brett Baer and said that, And 153 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: he's arguing, I'm a moderate Democrat. That's his entire pitch, 154 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,239 Speaker 1: and everyone needs to understand that he's doing that purposefully 155 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: and knowingly, because if he were to say that he 156 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: was if he want on TV, if you want on 157 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: Fox News as a Democrat and said, you know what, 158 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm actually four restrictions on abortion, the planned parenthood money machinery, 159 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: the abortion lobby and nay roll and all these very 160 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: powerful groups among Democrats would come after him, or he 161 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: just wouldn't get you know, or they just cut off 162 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: their money, a combination of these two things. They would 163 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: attack him publicly. They cut off money. You're not allowed 164 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: to deviate from the script on this as a Democrat. 165 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: There there's a real absolutism at the heart of this. 166 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: And you know Christopher Hitchens, who I Clay and I 167 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: were going back read that, you send me that link. 168 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: You know, he was Look, he was just a really 169 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: talented writer, a very interesting thinker. I read his stuff religiously, 170 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: which is kind of funny if you knew Hichens, because 171 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: he would have not liked that term to use for 172 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: his writing. But he was a self described atheist, Marxist, 173 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: and pro life. And one of the things that he 174 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: discussed in being pro life was he said, we all understand, 175 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: irrespective of your politics, if you see a woman and 176 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: she is and someone and someone goes up and punches 177 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: her in the stomach, you think, oh, that's a terrible 178 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: assault that person. You see somebody do that to a 179 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: pregnant woman, you think, who is this murderous lunatic? You know, 180 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: where's the electric chamer? Basically like, you really have a 181 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: whole other feeling about it, and we all know that. 182 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: And there's no person, no reasonable person, no sane human 183 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: being would come on this show or come anywhere else 184 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: say yeah, no, pregnant woman gets in the stomach, There's 185 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: no you know, no, no one thinks that's a that's 186 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: a bigger deal. They're lying to you folks on the 187 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: left about so much of this. You know, they're they're 188 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: not even they're not even having the debates and discussions 189 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: that they will often pretend to about, Well, what about 190 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: the first trimester and what it would just life begin 191 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: at conception. We're not anywhere near a life begins at 192 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: conception society. In terms of the legal regiment we're at it. 193 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: You can have an abortion up to the period of 194 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: birth in this country in a lot of places. I 195 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: mean not everywhere, but in a lot of places. And 196 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: I think that's being underrated, Buck, as the fallout of 197 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: Roe v. Wade being potentially overturned, and we really do 198 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: need to continue to emphasize John Roberts gotta get this 199 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: opinion out because to your point, Buck, we were talking 200 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: about this off air, and it's an awful thing to 201 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: even have to consider. But when you've got people demanding 202 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: violence in response to an as yet unpublished opinion, and 203 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: you've got five justices right now, meaning one less justice 204 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: changes over the outcome of this of this case, there 205 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: are lives at stake on actually, the Supreme Court, I'm 206 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: afraid to say, as long as this continues to hang 207 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: out there, right and I hope that we don't have 208 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: any sort of violence that ensues as this time period 209 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: between when this was leaked and when the opinion is 210 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: officially published. But if I'm John Roberts and I claim 211 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: to care about the legitimacy of my court, and certainly 212 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: I would think you have to care about the health 213 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: and safety of everyone at the Supreme Court, including those justices, 214 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: You've got to bring this opinion out sooner rather than later, 215 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: and you've got to join it to make it six 216 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: three so that we're not looking at Hey, if one 217 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: justice get gets removed, that everything changes. John Roberts, I'm 218 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: calling him out here. He has to support this and 219 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: he has to get it out now. It's not even 220 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: just the horrific prospect of some lunatic of going after 221 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: one of the conservative justices, Clay, that's troubling. I mean, 222 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: that's obviously the most troubling scenario we could see, but 223 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: it's pretty much annihilation. It's the nuclear option for the 224 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: courts credit ability. If after this and there's a bunch 225 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 1: of protests and we know the you know, the machinery 226 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: of Democrat pressure and the leftist lunatics and the screaming 227 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: and the shrieking and Elizabeth Warren melting down. If after 228 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: all of that they vote to uphold Row, there's a shift, 229 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: there's a change from those five justice Let's just say 230 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: theoretically that happened. No intelligent person would trust the Supreme 231 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: Court's integrity going forward. You'd be deluding yourself to think 232 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: that this is an honest, serious and fair minded institution. 233 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: So the credibility of the Court is on the you know, 234 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: is on the brink, even if nothing horrific happens, if 235 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: they change as a result of the pressure, and by 236 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: the way, the result is going to be more liberal 237 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: abortion laws in many states. I think that's being overlooked 238 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: the ever. All the focuses on, hey, what are the 239 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: Red states going to do? What's gonna happen there? I mean, 240 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: to your point, Buck, Colorado allowing abortions up to the 241 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: ninth month. I mean, California is going to do the 242 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: same thing. New York's going to do the same thing. 243 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: The liberalized nature of many of these abortion regulations I 244 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: think are going to have to be debated way more 245 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: because I think there's a lot of people out there, Democrat, Republican, 246 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: Independent who are sitting around saying a nine month old 247 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: gestation baby abortion is a lot different than something that 248 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: happens in the first five weeks, or something that happens 249 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: in the first week or two weeks, or I mean, 250 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: it's crazy to think about, and those conversations are going 251 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,359 Speaker 1: to be taken place going forward. Speaking of which, college graduation, 252 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: it's upon us lots of you out there graduating from college. 253 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: And the ceremonies at Hillsdale College take place this Saturday, 254 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: May the seventh, just two days from now. Don't interpret 255 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: that as the end of Hillsdale's productivity for the year. However, 256 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: their active year round without a summer break. Twelve months 257 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: a year. They published their popular Imprimus publication. 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That's 270 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck for Hillsdale dot com, Clay and Buck 271 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: for Hillsdale dot com, Clay and Buck show going strong. 272 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: Jensaki asked about well you can hear it from her 273 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: on the leak and whether she condemns it, play it 274 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: is the White House condemn condemned this leak or as 275 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: seeing this draft been seen as well off if I 276 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: saw here. I don't think we have a particular view 277 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: on that, other than to say that we certainly note 278 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: the unprecedented nature of it, what we are mindful of, 279 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: and I spoke of the President about exactly this question yesterday. 280 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: And obviously it's up to the Department of Justice to 281 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: determine what, if any action they will take. And I 282 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: know obviously there have been calls for that from some 283 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: Republicans but also members of the Supreme Court. But our 284 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: focus is on not losing sight from what the content 285 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: is in the draft and what is at risk here? Yeah, 286 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: what's at risk here, Clay in terms of her not 287 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: condemning this is that the Biden administration has no principles whatsoever, 288 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: no more lectures from them about institutions and our sacred democracy. 289 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: When they won't condemn the subversion of the Supreme Court, 290 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: they won't even say whether they believe it or not. 291 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: They won't even say it, they won't condemn it. Look 292 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: many of a monstrous breach. That that got me huge, huge. 293 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: Many of us spend so much time every day in 294 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: our office chairs. Some of us spend more time in 295 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: our office chairs we do in our beds, actually, Clay 296 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: and I do. Actually, that's why it's so important to 297 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: invest in the right chair. If you're going to spend 298 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: all those hours sitting at your desk, it makes such 299 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: a big difference. The right level of support and comfort 300 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: makes you more productive, makes you more comfortable. X chair 301 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: has made time at my desk at home not only 302 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: more productive, but certainly more comfortable than any chair I've 303 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: ever had. 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Now that's the letter X chair buck buck 310 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: dot com, xchairbuck dot com or call eight four four 311 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: four X chair for one hundred dollars off your order. 312 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: An X chair has a thirty day guarantee of complete comfort, 313 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: and you can finance your purchase for as little as 314 00:17:53,160 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: thirty dollars a month. We welcome back in Clay Travis 315 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: buck Sexton Show, joined now by our friends Senator Ron 316 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: Johnson of Wisconsin, and we're talking about the importance of 317 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: the midterm elections and everybody out there listening in the 318 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: great state of Wisconsin. We need you to go vote 319 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: for Senator Ron Johnson and Senator I meant to ask 320 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: you this the last time you were on, but I 321 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: can barely keep up with it. We've been number one 322 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: in Milwaukee. We appreciate everybody listening in Milwaukee right now. 323 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: Our kids in Milwaukee. Senator still being required to wear masks. 324 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: I know it's been bouncing back and forth quite a bit, 325 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: but I think that a lot of them still are. 326 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: Do you know the latest details there? Yeah, I know 327 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: they suspended for a couple of days, then they slapped 328 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: it right back on. I'm not sure if they've taken 329 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: it back off again. How crazy is that? So there's 330 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: a lot of suburban moms out there that are making 331 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: decisions about who they're going to vote for, and when 332 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: you're sending your kid into a public school and they're 333 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: still wearing a mask over two years after COVID arrived 334 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: in America. What do you think about that? You look 335 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: at the data, you look at the science. How infuriating 336 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: is that? Well, first of all, the science for masks 337 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: in generals not particularly good. Lessons M ninety five changed 338 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: out frequently. But there's one group of people. We always 339 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: knew it. Masking would never work with the mass of children. 340 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: You're seeing kids wear masks. You know, ares a party 341 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: had on their gene. It was never going to work 342 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 1: with children. It's not working out, So it's insane. But 343 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: it's all part of what the left is doing here 344 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: that they will never admit they were wrong, and so 345 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: one of the ways they make sure that they've not 346 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: proven wrong. Is they just keep doing the same thing. 347 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: It's it's one of their mechanisms to keep us all 348 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: in a state of fear, which is what they do 349 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: with it's climate change, whether it's the pandemic, so they 350 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: control control our lives. Speaking Senator Ron Johnson, and Senator 351 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: it's Buck. You know, I saw the interaction the back 352 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: and forth you had with the chief of DHS, Alejandro 353 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: may york Us on whether or not the this is 354 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 1: a border crisis. Want to remind everybody in case they 355 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: didn't hear it or see it, here's how that went. 356 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: He do you say that we have a secure border 357 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,959 Speaker 1: that you're managing it? Do you do you not admit 358 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: that this is a problem on the southern border? Um, 359 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: Senator Johnson, that is certainly a challenge. We recognize the challenge. 360 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean, can you say the word problem it is? 361 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: It is precisely, Senator Johnson, it is precisely why in 362 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: September of last year. Yeah, I've got some questions I 363 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: want to ask you. Yeah, I've got questions that I 364 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: would want to ask a do Senator, But everyone that 365 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: I know at the border on border patrol and who's 366 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: covering it, and who's been down there recently says the 367 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: same thing. The border is the most lawleist and the 368 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: biggest problem it has ever been. But may Orcis doesn't 369 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: seem to think so. No, you know, challenges, you know, 370 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: for me, you're running five miles would be a challenge, 371 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 1: you know, a problem with something else, And they will 372 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: not admit they have a problem. They certainly will not 373 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: admit they caused the problem. And you know, the eight 374 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: hundred pounds drill in the in the room is what 375 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: the Democrats want because they want legislation. They want to 376 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: address the asylum problem. But they view the asylum problem 377 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: is asylum standard is too strict. And of course the 378 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: real problem is the asylum standard is pretty strict, but 379 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: we let people in under a much lower standard called 380 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: credible fear. All you have to say is I'm afraid 381 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: to go back to my home country and say, okay, 382 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: well come on in them, and will Jude Kate you 383 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: plant your claim and I don't know, five or six 384 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 1: years you probably had a couple of US citizen children 385 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: by them. So we've just created this enormous incentive, this 386 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: enormous pull factor, and all Democrats want to talk about 387 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: is the push factor, you know, the crime that the drugs, 388 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: all the type of thing in Central America. And they 389 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: completely deny that the primary issue here is the pull factor, 390 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: and they will not admit that Trump pretty all have 391 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: the problem solved. You know, we pretty well stopped the 392 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: flow of unccompanied children family units exploiting our asylum laws. 393 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: We were building the fence, and so I put up 394 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: my graph. It's graphic. I mean, it just shows Trump 395 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: has solved the problem. And then the minute Democrats were 396 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: running for president, they said they were going to stop 397 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: deportations and give everybody healthcare single adult apprehension started growing. 398 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: Then once Biden took office, the problem just exploded. It's obvious, 399 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: but they will not admit the Obviously, they literally are 400 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: living in an alternate reality. Senator Johnson, Obviously a lot 401 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: of discussion about the leak of a proposed opinion from 402 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: Justice Alito overturning Roe v. Wade. What should happen in 403 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: your mind, if if we are able to uncover who 404 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: leaked this opinion from the Supreme Court, probasely, the person 405 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: needs to be fired and disparred, thoroughly disgraced. I mean, 406 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: the damage gender a Supreme Court is hard to overstate, 407 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: but you know, from my standpoint, I read the entire decision. 408 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 1: I'm not an attorney myself, but it was very easy 409 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: to read. I thought it was very detailed. All the 410 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: points showed exactly why Roe and Casey were so poorly decided. 411 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: This a really good decision. This is what should have 412 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: happened fifty years ago. We should have allowed the people 413 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: to decide through the Democrat process. At what point do 414 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: you protect life? As a leader writes, it's a profound 415 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: moral issue, and it's so profound. Nine unelected judges should 416 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: not make that decision for all society, not one individuals. 417 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: Should We all ought to collectively come to a decision 418 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: on a state by state basis. Initially that might be 419 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: kind of a messy process, but we're not going back 420 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: fifty years. I have faith in the American public to 421 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: sort us out through the Democrat process over the next 422 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: couple of years. A Senator Tim Ryan, who is trying 423 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: to claim that he would be a congressman right now. 424 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: Tim Ryan, who's running in Ohio, said on Fox News 425 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: with Brett Bayer we played this clip earlier that he 426 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: believed abortion should be able to occur in the ninth 427 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: month of pregnancy. That is an unbelievably radical evolution and 428 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: exaggeration in terms of what Democrats believe on abortion. How 429 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: commonplace do you think that idea is among Democrats based 430 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: on your experience in the United States Senate now, that 431 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: nine month abortion should be legal, Well, in terms of 432 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: Democrat elect officials, is probably pretty common, unfortunately. But I 433 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: think the general public, if given the information, if they 434 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: can just see what a you know, nine months, well, 435 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: everybody knows that nine month old baby looks like the baby, okay, 436 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: but even twenty week old or fifteen week old, they 437 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: can respond to, you know, the father's voice outside the 438 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: womb because they can, you know, just watch the heart 439 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: wreak go up. When again, if people are given the 440 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,239 Speaker 1: information the reality of what's happening. From my standpoint, I 441 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: think people collectively will decide to protect life at a 442 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: pretty early stage. I can't say exactly when that would be. 443 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: You know, I could make a decision myself in terms 444 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: of where I think, but again, this would be a 445 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: collective decision, and that's the appropriate way to approach this. 446 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: Speaking of Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, Senator, you're in 447 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: a very important state in this for this mid in general, 448 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: of course we love Wisconsin, but in terms of the 449 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: mid terms, uh, it's it's a state that will go 450 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: with well hopefully we'll go with the GOP overall the midterms, 451 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: and your race particularly is also quite important. What are 452 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: the independence you know you're in a swing state, What 453 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: are the independence that you're hearing from saying And I 454 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: just want to get a sense of essentially using your 455 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: state as a bell weather for how we're looking at 456 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: this point going into the midterms. What can you tell us, Well, 457 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: they're concerned about the main economications, I mean, inflation, record 458 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: gasoline prices, rising crime is certainly a concern, and you 459 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't think we're you know, we are at border state 460 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: with Canadian border, but that's not a real big problem. 461 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: But they are highly concerned about our completely out of 462 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: control southern border. So those are the issues they're concerned about. 463 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: When it comes to the abortion issue, it's pretty pretty 464 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: up fifty fifty. If you're a Republican, your pro life, 465 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: if you're a Democrat, your pro choice, and it's just 466 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: never really come up. It'll come up, I'm sure in 467 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: this election, but I think we'll sort things up. But 468 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: it really is it's it's the fact that their wage 469 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: games have been wiped out by out of control depths 470 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: and spending. Gasoline prices are at record levels because of 471 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: the Democrats. Warren fossil Fuel. You know, it's my job 472 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: to point out that all these awful things that occurring 473 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: our economy didn't just happen. They're the direct result of 474 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: Democrat policies and Democrat governments. This is what Democrat policies 475 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: are designed to result in, and people need to understand that. 476 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: Senator Ron Johnson, sir, thank you so much for joining us, 477 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you again soon. Stay well. Look, 478 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: when your online identity is stolen, you're in a world 479 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: of you find when your bank or your credit card 480 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: company gets in touch with you're telling you all the 481 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 1: bad news. It's a bad feeling. 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It is 508 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: absolutely despicable and outrageous when you look at the President 509 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: of the United States of America calling millions of Americans 510 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: essentially terrorists. People who politically opposed him, are voted against him. 511 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: He's calling them terrorists in an attempt to intimidate them 512 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: into silence. So he's essentially saying that this quote unquote 513 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: Maga crowd are worse than terrorists. No matter how you 514 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: feel about the MAGA crowd, this is an authoritarian assault 515 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: on our freedom and we need to stand together very 516 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: strongly against this attempt to intimidate and silence anyone who 517 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: holds political views that are different from or opposed to 518 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: what this president is administration are further and this and 519 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: the sulf on our democracy. Well said there by Tulsea Gabbert, 520 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back Clay and Buck Show. And it's all true 521 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: what she's saying, right, the effort to paint all Republicans 522 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: anyone who voted for Trump is a terrorist and insurrectionist. 523 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: It's pathetic, but it's also disturbing. You'd like to think 524 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: that the Biden administration would try something along the lines 525 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: of arguments and maybe even persuasion. One thing that's completely 526 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: lacking in our political discourse because the authoritarian Biden regime. 527 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: I think it's worse as a result of the COVID. 528 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: Mentality too, is the Democrats don't say do this because 529 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: I think this will be better, and agree with us 530 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: on this and then we can all move together. It's 531 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: do this or else. There's a lot of do this 532 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: or else mentality on political questions on things ranging from 533 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: obviously you know, masking to vaccination to you name it. 534 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: You know, you go along or else they want to 535 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,719 Speaker 1: crush you. And you know, it's very far, as I 536 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: was saying, Clay, very far from what we were promised, 537 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:21,719 Speaker 1: which was normalcy, decency, and unity. We have gotten the 538 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: opposite of those things. And if anyone is you know, 539 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: I know this is you know, I'm not the extremist. 540 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: You are right. It almost sounds like kids arguing. But 541 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: let's look at where the Democrat Party is now. I 542 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: mean Elon Musk even said this recently, said he was 543 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: a Democrat by the standards of you know ten or 544 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,959 Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, Democrat Party now is, And I mean 545 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of lunatics running around making the decisions. 546 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 1: They're crazy, and Joe Biden does whatever they tell him 547 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: to do. He has no bulwark against the madness. Well, 548 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: that's why I keep talking to people who are persuadable, Buck, 549 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: because when Elon Musk put up that picture, I was 550 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: that's me, right. Some people know, Hey, I believe in 551 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: Republican politics. And you were doing that when you were 552 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: eleven and twelve years old. That's you, Buck. And there's 553 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people listening to us right now who 554 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: grew up listening to Rush that we're in that category, right, 555 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: that's not me. Everybody comes to their political beliefs at 556 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: different stages in their lives, and for me, I talked 557 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: about this to a large extent. The Kavanaugh hearings were 558 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: transformative for me. I watched them and I said, I 559 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: don't see how anyone can support what the Democrats are 560 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: doing in the Senate right now to Brett Kavanaugh. Did 561 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: you can I ask you about this click? Do you 562 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: remember a single Democrat of some you know of standing 563 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: in the in the media who was willing to say, hey, 564 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: maybe this whole Kavanaugh character assassination thing is going a 565 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: little too far. Oh, I don't remember. Still I don't 566 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: and that watching that, and I was riveted, and I 567 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: know a lot of you out there were riveted by 568 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: it as well. I just I could stop thinking about it. 569 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: And look, I came from the world of sports, so 570 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: I've always liked and enjoyed the political process, but I've 571 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: never felt that any time there was such a radical 572 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: nature as what I saw there when you're pulling out 573 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: a high school yearbook and quizzing a guy based on 574 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: the superlatives and a high school yearbook and the entire 575 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: Christine Blasie Ford allegations which were bogus. And I'm looking 576 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: at that from a legal perspective as someone who did 577 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: criminal law and represented people who were charged with murder 578 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: and drug dealing and domestic assault, and so I understand 579 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: the concept of looking at facts and determining whether charges 580 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: were going to be made. And then you build on 581 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: it and see the way that Trump was treated by 582 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: the media, and you see the lies, the nasty, dirty lies, 583 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: and running a media company, seeing the way that big 584 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: tech has rigged everything, it pushes you in and combine 585 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: it with the COVID. Wise, it pushes you to challenge 586 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: and examine everything. And I talked about this in my 587 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: most recent book. But remember the Missoi racism allegations the 588 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: University of Missouri. We got a lot of listeners in 589 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: Saint Louis, in the Columbia, Missouri area. I was. I 590 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: covered that, right, So I was right in the middle 591 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: of it. It was all wise and that was the 592 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: first story that I covered. You maybe should say Duke 593 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: Lacrosse should have been won, But I wasn't really involved 594 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: in the Duke Lacrosse KBA fraternity via fraternity rape case, 595 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,239 Speaker 1: and so I got red pilled, right. And there are 596 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,719 Speaker 1: some people right who never had to look at all 597 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: those facts and make those determinations. But I look at 598 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: that sort of chart, that meme that Elon Musk shared 599 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: of the left wing just becoming more and more left wing, 600 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: and where you started off as a centrist, right, very 601 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: middle of the road guy or girl, and then it's 602 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: like the world is changing around you. I mean, I 603 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: think Ronald Reagan said it back in the day in 604 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: the sixth as he came out of the sixties, he 605 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: didn't leave the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party left him. 606 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: I kind of feel the same way. I'm hoping that's 607 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: why I talk about sanity versus insanity so much, because 608 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: there really is a difference. I'm hoping that there are 609 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: a lot of older Democrats actually who may decide what 610 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: is my party doing to the country right now? I mean, 611 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: really look at it. I'm sure there are people listen 612 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: this right now who know because we all know what 613 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: the It's the Joe Biden fantasy version of what the 614 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: Democrat Party is. It's you know, guys, you know, pushing 615 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: for the little guy and making sure you can pay 616 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: your bills and strong unions and fair wages. And that 617 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: is not the Democrat Party anymore. Now. The Democrat Party 618 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: now is Jeff Bezos is. Washington Post writers will dock 619 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: you and ruin your life if you don't think that 620 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 1: four year olds should be taught about lbgdqi A plus 621 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: pan sexual identity issues in kindergarten. That is what the 622 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: Democrat Party has turned into. And we all know it, 623 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: we all see it. And the Democrat Party has turned 624 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: into you can't make that joke, which is why I've 625 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 1: been arguing, Hey, some of the people on the front 626 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: lines here. From a creative industry, there needs to be 627 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 1: a rebellion against Hollywood and the culture that has been 628 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: created there, because if you can't make jokes about transgender issues, 629 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,479 Speaker 1: like Dave Chappelle is being attacked for over the past 630 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: couple of years, what is the world that we're creating 631 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: where if anyone has offended you can't say it. I just, 632 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: I just fundamentally repudiate that we're gonna be idea that 633 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: the Republicans would be defending free speech is I think 634 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 1: one of the paramount definers of this party today. We're 635 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 1: gonna be joined by Cash Patal here in a few 636 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: moments former deal Key chief A dood chief of staff 637 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: stick around for that one.