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Speaker 1: Michael bar This is the Bloomberg Business of Sports podcast

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Speaker 1: where let's see if he doesn't it time we he didn't.

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Speaker 1: He's just up today though, ed board meeting, board meeting.

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Speaker 1: I like it, man, We're gonna explode a big money

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Speaker 1: issues in the world of sports like we always do.

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Speaker 1: So he collide. It wasn't just movies last night. Well yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's well, two things collide. So when you talk about

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Speaker 1: to that. Yeah, but there was a very sports heavy

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Speaker 1: presence at the Academy Awards. Money who always sits in

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Speaker 1: the front row for the Knicks game. Yeah, let's just

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Speaker 1: say you're a Knicks fan. Let's just say, and you're

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Speaker 1: a little torn. You know, you don't have picture and picture,

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Speaker 1: what's going on at the awards ceremony. Sam A. L.

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Speaker 1: Jackson hooked you up. First of all, Spike, I'm so

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Speaker 1: glad you're sitting down, um after eighteen secretive home losses

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Speaker 1: They stored both points. No, you know why because I

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Speaker 1: know a certain person in this room made, let's say

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Speaker 1: a little friendly bet that the Spurs would win that game.

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Speaker 1: You did? Really? Yes? Really? I mean that. Look, the

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Speaker 1: Knicks hadn't won a game game in the NBA, and

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Speaker 1: here there was nothing random about this. They hadn't anonymous

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Speaker 1: How much did you lose? I bet? Like? All right?

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Speaker 1: But but really there was a lot of sports presents,

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Speaker 1: one like who knew the Mahashala Ali best supporting actor?

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Speaker 1: Did you know before the Oscars that he played eight

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Speaker 1: point guard at St. Mary? Yeah? Mashalla Gilbert at the time, herschel, herschel. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I didn't watch the Oscars. I didn't see I

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Speaker 1: Didn't see any of them. Did not know. But St.

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Speaker 1: a tie. And then the big one besides Samuel Jackson

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Speaker 1: mentioning the Nicks and Spike Lee winning, but Serena Williams

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Speaker 1: voiced over the Nike. Yet, if we show emotion, we're

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Speaker 1: do just do It campaign? Um yeah, she's She's everywhere. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just read it. But she was really good. She was

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Speaker 1: the biggest thing here. It might be just the embarrassment

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Speaker 1: If I'm Bob Kraft. When I I'm back from whatever penalty,

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Speaker 1: I'm not coming out. And this was the finals of

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Speaker 1: a great segment. Yeah, I have been go up. You know,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, and we're here with Scott. Keep going, but

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Speaker 1: finish it up. We'll do the world of money in sports.

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Speaker 1: Finish it up. You can say that guy's name really well,

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Speaker 1: you can just keep going fine for Evan. He'll join

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Speaker 1: we speak with Angela Ruggiero, let's say that right. Okay,

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