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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com on with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us,

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Speaker 5: It is Thursday November fourteenth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,

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Speaker 5: episode number sixty eight. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 5: We're gonna talk a little Cowboy versus Texans. Yesterday we

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Speaker 5: talked about the Texans offense versus the Cowboys defense. Today

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Speaker 5: we flipped that and we'll hit up the Texans defense

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Speaker 5: versus the Cowboys offense. We'll hopefully get to some questions

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Speaker 5: You can hit me on Twitter and send your questions

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Speaker 5: that way and we'll try to get some. I already

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Speaker 5: have a few that have lined up that I got

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Speaker 5: to warm up today. I'm gonna do something a little

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Speaker 5: bit different because it's a Cowboys Texans week.

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Speaker 2: I figured just to get us warmed up.

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Speaker 7: I got three d game I've ever been a part of.

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Speaker 7: Their first game ever. I know, me too, the worst

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Speaker 7: game ever, me too, and that we've I've been a

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Speaker 7: part of a lot of bad ones here. That was

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Speaker 7: the worst game I've ever been a part of absolutely ever.

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Speaker 7: So go ahead, carry on right quick. That's my memory

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Speaker 7: of the Texans.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, their first game as a as as a franchise,

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Speaker 5: as a franchise.

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Speaker 2: That makes us a really old Brian. We were both there.

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Speaker 2: We were there that night.

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Speaker 7: It wasn't good.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't good. That's look. Here's what I got.

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Speaker 7: I got.

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Speaker 2: I got three different pairings.

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Speaker 5: I got a person from Houston, and I got a

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Speaker 5: person from Dallas. And I want you guys to tell

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Speaker 5: me which one is better? All right, We're gonna start

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Speaker 5: with Earl Campbell versus Emmitt Smith.

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Speaker 6: Oh God, oh Emmitt, Emmitt Emmitt.

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Speaker 4: The only reason I thought about it is because I'm

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Speaker 4: in East Texas guy Earl campbells and East Texas guys.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: I put the bias aside Emma Smith all time leading Russia.

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Speaker 4: Is there an arguments we made?

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Speaker 2: Look, I'm asking you the question.

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Speaker 7: I'm thinking about this really hard because I have the

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Speaker 7: utmost respect for both players.

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Speaker 2: And it's a hard one.

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Speaker 7: And I know what Earl Campbell did you know? And

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Speaker 7: I know it did and I know it's the all

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Speaker 2: M it's a hard one.

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Speaker 7: It is hard one.

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Speaker 2: Give me Earl Campbell, Okay, all right?

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Speaker 8: Not for me. I mean I only know most on

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Speaker 8: Emmitt Smith. That's mainly who I know about.

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Speaker 2: So I'll tell you google Earl Campbell.

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Speaker 6: We gotta take a field trip to Tyler, Texas one day.

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Speaker 9: Rose.

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Speaker 2: It's really not fair for me.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, I'm a Texas guy, and I grew up with

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Speaker 2: But it's it's hard.

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Speaker 8: How's that he's over here with the hook, yeah up here? Okay?

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Speaker 5: You watching him play football? He played with some yeah

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Speaker 4: Tackle to John Tyler High School. My grandmother graduated with

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Speaker 5: Oh wow, all right, so next one, keem Olajuan or

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Speaker 6: The dream baby start?

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Speaker 2: Oh, Dirk really okay?

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Speaker 7: And I and I'll tell you what, man, because you

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Speaker 8: Don't look at me. You're literally out of my boundaries

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Speaker 7: Because he's gonna say he's going to say a key.

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Speaker 7: He said it. Keep you and I need to get

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Speaker 8: This My my is what when did I start working here?

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Speaker 8: Twenty thirteen? Run right out of college? Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 5: Well, actually, when I was coming up with these. I

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Speaker 5: Beyonce or Post.

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Speaker 6: I knew it was gonna be Beyonce. Yeah, I gotta

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Speaker 6: take Beyonce. What are we talking about, Posty Man.

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Speaker 8: Post alone?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Beyonce wo yeah, you know what. I respect Beyonce.

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Speaker 8: She's beautiful, gorgeous.

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Speaker 8: and he was the most humble, down to earth guy.

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Speaker 8: He's you just you know when it's very rare that

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Speaker 8: him immediately, so and you you've worked with him Derek before.

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Speaker 8: He's just so nice and great guy.

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Speaker 5: I fell on the side of Houston for most of these,

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Speaker 5: and I love Beyonce, but Post, like, post has been

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Speaker 4: So I would always have to go with this is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Beyonce, no doubt, and it would be fair.

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Speaker 7: Outstanding. But like you say, post, he he really he

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Speaker 2: You can see he wears Cowboys.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he wears his fandom. And you know it's important

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Speaker 8: So I and also has a great voice.

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Speaker 7: I was.

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Speaker 8: I had the chance to go to Dak's event last year,

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Speaker 8: his foundation that he held, and then he had posts

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Speaker 8: So he's just I love him. Yes, And he doesn't

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there is there is a rumor that he smells bad.

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Speaker 6: He doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, okay out of nowhere. But I remember

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Speaker 8: Something because it was always a question. I've had people

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Speaker 2: Like he was smelling you, like the way he kind

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Speaker 7: How okay, people that you deal with, you guys deal

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Speaker 7: Amber Garci when you introduce yourself? He did not.

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Speaker 8: I feel like he literally treats because there's sometimes there's

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Speaker 7: It was, well, I know, okay. The Governor of New Jersey,

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Speaker 7: Chris Christy, like I was sitting in my cubicle upstairs

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Speaker 7: And I was like, Governor, yeah, thanks appreciate you know

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Speaker 7: Jamie Fox, you know, Jamie Fox was one of those

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Speaker 7: You meet him and he's like, ah no man, Dallascowboys

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Speaker 7: You know that kind of thing. I mean, it's really

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Speaker 7: That's that's kind of a cool thing around here.

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Speaker 5: Well post he's been on a lot of our works,

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Speaker 5: so we've we've had opportunities to work with them, so

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Speaker 5: it's been really cool and I will always always be

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Speaker 2: All Right, that was good warm up. Let's jump.

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Speaker 5: You know one topic I wanted to hit before we

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Speaker 5: go to our first break. I was looking at and

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Speaker 5: I think this has been a topic that has really

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Speaker 5: been talked about quite a bit over the last few weeks.

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Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys and third quarters. Right now, they're being outscored

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Speaker 5: in the third quarters eighty two to twenty two, obviously

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Speaker 5: a huge discrepancy. What would you attribute that to? If

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Speaker 5: you know, I think this is it. And then I

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Speaker 5: obviously if anybody really knew what it was was, it'd

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Speaker 5: probably be somebody on that side of the building and

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Speaker 5: they would have figured it out by now. But if

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Speaker 5: you're just thinking about it, what would be the thing

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Speaker 6: Coaching? They had the same issues last year in the

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Speaker 4: It wasn't as big of a discrepancy, but they did

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Speaker 5: You know, Brian, you brought up something that I wonder

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Speaker 2: And the reason why I say that is because I'm

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Speaker 5: There's only one opportunity you have other than to get

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Speaker 8: Is playing like this, Yeah, you want your defense just

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Speaker 4: We've talked about this a couple of times about how

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Speaker 4: then they'll have a guy like a ciz Al Shayir

444
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Speaker 4: dropping coverage and be able to cut that off. They

445
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 4: are more than comfortable with allowing their corners to stay

446
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,200
Speaker 4: one on one as well, But it starts with the

447
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 4: pass rush with will Anderson, and.

448
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 7: Their secondary is outstanding. I mean, you know, we when

449
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Speaker 7: you when you look at where they where they're at,

450
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 7: and I mean they there we I mean the pass

451
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 7: rushes is just as good. But you know, when you

452
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Speaker 7: start to talk about with will Anderson and then also

453
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 7: with with Hunter, they'll play opposite sides that you know,

454
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 7: they'll want to play right, will play left, and we'll

455
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 7: flip it around a little bit. They they love to play.

456
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 7: They played nickel the whole game. You know, they played

457
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 7: nickel because they've got legitimate They've got a they've got

458
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,439
Speaker 7: a safety in this Kalan b look and we watched

459
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 7: him at USC and he is a tall, thin, really

460
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 7: a corner that's playing safety and he leads their team

461
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 7: in interceptions and he's got really good vision for what's

462
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 7: going on and he kind of finds ways to fit

463
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 7: in coverage and stuff. But Stingley can cover really well,

464
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 7: Lasser can cover really well, and Petrie can cover really well.

465
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 7: They've got three guys and then all of a sudden,

466
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 7: they got a safety that's kind of a corner playing

467
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 7: free safety, so they literally have four corners on them

468
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Speaker 7: and Petrie. Petrie plays Nickel, but he's kind of like

469
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 7: a like he's a he's like a safety as well

470
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Speaker 7: in the fat in fact, how physical he is. So

471
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Speaker 7: to me, they they've got ability that the pass rush

472
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Speaker 7: and then the coverage aspect on the back end. They

473
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 7: just don't give you a lot of space. I mean,

474
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Speaker 7: you go back and look, and you go back and

475
00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 7: you check, you watch the tape, you look at metro

476
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 7: like teams are like fifty completion percentage against these guys.

477
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 7: They just don't give you. Now. They play, they play

478
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 7: at they play off, but they're really good at driving

479
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 7: and good at like when you know when they have

480
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 7: to carry and they can they can find this and

481
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 7: you talk about the underneath stuff that that's clearly gonna

482
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 7: be an issue for them, But when it goes to

483
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 7: down the field, you know, not being out of position,

484
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 7: this is this is one of the best defenses the

485
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Speaker 7: Cowboys gonna play.

486
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Speaker 4: I think, quick question, do you feel like it's an

487
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Speaker 4: issue that they allow the underneath or you think it's

488
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Speaker 4: something that they're okay.

489
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Speaker 7: With at they're okay with it because I feel like

490
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Speaker 7: that they're gonna tackle.

491
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like they're gonna they're.

492
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Speaker 7: Gonna, they're gonna let it go and then they're gonna

493
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Speaker 7: just rally to the ball.

494
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Speaker 5: So you're saying, this is another game of three four

495
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Speaker 5: yard passes, and.

496
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Speaker 7: It's it's gonna well, it's gonna be a problem because

497
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Speaker 7: too because I mentioned Will Anderson and I mentioned Hunter.

498
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Speaker 7: But they get they get like like Tim Settle the

499
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Speaker 7: defensive tackle, they get some pressure inside Mario Edwards, they

500
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 7: get some pressure inside on you, and you know that's

501
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 7: that's it. Teams have teams have had you talk about

502
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 7: running the football. They're kind of like a little bit

503
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 7: mid pack on that. But but but overall the pass coverage,

504
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 7: they want to get you in past. They want to

505
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 7: get you where you're having to throw the football because

506
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 7: they feel like that they can you know, they could

507
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 7: bring five, they could rush four. They know on the

508
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 7: back end that there there's their corners and their safeties

509
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 7: are gonna hold up and and it makes it it's

510
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 7: it's it's a great way to call defenses if you've

511
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 7: got that kind of group that you have that much

512
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Speaker 7: confidence in to to make place.

513
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Speaker 2: You mentioned Tim Settle.

514
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Speaker 5: He's a guy that over the last few weeks has

515
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 5: been playing really well for them. Uh where does he

516
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 5: typically line up and and how does that match up

517
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Speaker 5: with Dallas's guys?

518
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Speaker 2: Does he flip around.

519
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're gonna flip around inside there. You know they're

520
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 7: gonna get What's gonna happen is I have a feeling,

521
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Speaker 7: and Nit correct me if I'm wrong on this. I

522
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 7: think that they're gonna hunt match up here. I think

523
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 7: I think they're gonna hunt matchups and I think they're

524
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 7: gonna hunt matchups with Hunter is what they're gonna do. Yeah,

525
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 7: And and depending on who's playing, is it a guide

526
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 7: in game? Is it a you know, is a Steel game?

527
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 7: We know Steel is gonna play, but we'll see how

528
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 7: the other things work out. But this team, like I say,

529
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 7: they they're gonna they're gonna play. They're gonna get nickel,

530
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Speaker 7: and they're gonna they're gonna try and choke the run.

531
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Speaker 7: And if they could choke the run, and they're gonna

532
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 7: make you throw the ball. And that's that's that's where

533
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 7: they come to play because they feel like they can

534
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 7: get guys home and they feel like that they can

535
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Speaker 7: cover on the back end.

536
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Speaker 6: You hadn't mentioned either yesterday or Tuesday that these guys

537
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Speaker 6: do a lot of stunts. Yeah, they stunt almost every play.

538
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would I would love to see an

539
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 4: exten stat of how often they stunt, like stunt percentage,

540
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Speaker 4: it would have to be eight.

541
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Speaker 5: It's like everything that they do well, Cowboys struggle at.

542
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 5: Like it doesn't sound like when if we when if we.

543
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Speaker 7: Had this discussion on a on a you know, when

544
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 7: we break down the opponent and it's like, okay, Dallas

545
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 7: could take advantage of this and then there, but their

546
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 7: opponent can do this, and it's really everything that Dallas

547
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 7: is poor at, you know. And and this is going

548
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 7: to be this is going this is just this could

549
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 7: be very reminisus. The game can remind me. That's what

550
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 7: I should say. I should stop trying to use big words.

551
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,719
Speaker 7: But the thing that this has got a little bit

552
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 7: of a Detroit vibe to it for me, this game,

553
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 7: and I mean it in a way of inside pressure,

554
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 7: outside pressure and guys on the back end that can

555
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 7: cover a little bit. You know. That's and when you

556
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 7: have versatile like with Brian Branch and guys like that,

557
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 7: you you have versatile players that could play, you know,

558
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 7: and take away things from you. This is what's going

559
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 7: to be difficult about moving the ball against these I

560
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 7: think there's ways that Dallas can attack them on defense

561
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 7: when Dallas is playing defense. I think there's things I

562
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Speaker 7: think that if if the Texans really want to shut

563
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 7: you down, they could probably do it.

564
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 2: They're a scenario if I just need one it can it?

565
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 2: Can you give me.

566
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 5: One scenario of this is one crease in their defense.

567
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 5: This is one thing in their defense that they've been

568
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 5: a little shaky on that if Dallas can't exploit it,

569
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 5: this is how they could be successful.

570
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 4: This offense has to be super patient because they're not

571
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 4: gonna get any big place. And I think I think

572
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 4: Cooper Rush is a patient quarterback that that's probably one

573
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Speaker 4: of the traits that has been talked about them on him.

574
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Speaker 2: It's maybe a little bit toatient.

575
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that could play into his strength. But yeah,

576
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 4: this is going to require a lot of patients, both

577
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 4: in the run game and in the pass game.

578
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 7: For the early downs. Nobody the Lions are the only

579
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 7: team in the league that blitch you more than these

580
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 7: dudes on third down? Okay, they don't want to go there?

581
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 7: You don't want to go there? Yeah? You know they

582
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 7: you know. It's it's kind of funny when you when

583
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 7: you look at certain teams and you're like, okay, when

584
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 7: are they going to come after you. Like I said,

585
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 7: these guys got naturally a good pass rush, but they'll

586
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 7: bring slots, they'll bring linebackers, they'll bring you, they'll bring

587
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 7: secondary pressure and stuff like that. Dallas has got to

588
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 7: somehow win on early downs. You can't. It can't be

589
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 7: second and nine, you know, and then all of a

590
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 7: sudden you're scrambling and then you know there's a three

591
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 7: yard pass and now it's third and six. No, I mean,

592
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 7: Dallas has got to it. They have got to stay

593
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 7: out of third downs against these guys. You know, if

594
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 7: somehow you can, you know, you've got to make these

595
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 7: things where it's a second and three, play that way,

596
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 7: play second and two. It's gonna be really hard for

597
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 7: But these these guys, like say, they get you in

598
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 7: third down, they feel like they can get off the field.

599
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 7: And if Dallas is in a bunch of long yardage,

600
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 7: I guess you could say it for any team, but

601
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 7: especially this team because of how they can match you up.

602
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 7: So if Dallas doesn't win on early downs, this ambar

603
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 7: On defense is going to get just really super tired

604
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 7: this game.

605
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 8: Well I know, I blink and we're already on third downs.

606
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, so.

607
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 8: It happens so fast Alfas gets on the field, I

608
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 8: literally just blink third down on my own.

609
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 6: Great.

610
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 8: So I mean hopefully hopefully they stay patient. I think

611
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 8: that's the key right there. Patient, Yeah, because when you

612
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 8: start hurting, I mean, they've made so many mistakes. I

613
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 8: think you just have to assng As you're a little

614
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 8: smarter and more patient. I think they could create some

615
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 8: positive plays offensively with Cooper Rush.

616
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 4: There was a moment at the halftime break Bobby Belt

617
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 4: and I had gotten together, just like a couple of

618
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 4: things that stood up to us, and one of the

619
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 4: things that we both saw was the inefficiency on first

620
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 4: down and half against the Eagles. Specifically, I didn't take

621
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 4: the numbers in the second half because at that point,

622
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 4: you know whatever, But in.

623
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Speaker 7: The first half that destroyed your will take exactly happened.

624
00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 6: In the first half.

625
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 4: They had fourteen plays on first down. Not fourteen first downs.

626
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 4: They had fourteen plays on first down. They have thirty

627
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 4: four total yards on those plays. It's two point four

628
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 4: yards per play and two turnovers. I factored that in

629
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 4: eleven of those yards came on one place, so it

630
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 4: was really thirteen plays for twenty three yards and aside

631
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 4: from that one eleven yard carried by Rico Dawdle, the

632
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 4: lack of efficiency and getting ahead of the chains is

633
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 4: affecting this offense drastically. Yep, they have to be able

634
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 4: to get ahead of the chain.

635
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 7: These guys will punish you. I do you have it's

636
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 7: similar numbers like that. It'll be ugly, it'll be bad.

637
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, you mentioned Mario, which it was it. Why

638
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: weren't you hear when his dad was drafted?

639
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 3: Oh?

640
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,479
Speaker 7: You draft his dad?

641
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 5: I was on here with I remember Mario his dad

642
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 5: being on the Cowboys, and I would hear when he

643
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 5: got drafted as well.

644
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: But I was pretty sure you were part of that

645
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: crew that draft.

646
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 7: Crazy. I mean, think about it. As matter of fact,

647
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 7: Mario wasn't senior, wasn't out of the league very long,

648
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 7: right before his son was playing college football.

649
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, all of a sudd it popped up and

650
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: I was like, Mario's kid, sure enough.

651
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 16: Yeah.

652
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 7: It was kind of one of those things that you're

653
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 7: kind of like going, wait a minute, man, what do

654
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 7: he happened when he was like eleven years old or

655
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 7: something like that.

656
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: Mario Mario Senior was a character. He was a he

657
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: was a fun guy. Yeah, all right, let's take our final.

658
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 6: T Y Hilton's kids going to Purdue next year.

659
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: It's like this thing moves fast. You really you look

660
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: around college football all the time.

661
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 5: I'm seeing now, oh yeah, that's I saw the other

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Speaker 5: the Star. Let's talk about this Cowboys offense. How confident

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Speaker 5: are you that? Stop laughing, Bright, I'm not I'm confident

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Speaker 5: are you?

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Speaker 7: I'm just thinking?

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Speaker 2: How confident are you that Cooper Rush?

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Speaker 5: Cooper Rush can be better than what he showed against Philadelphia.

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Speaker 4: He's got to be right, that's got to be rock bottom.

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Speaker 4: I would assume it was. It was an awful showing.

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Speaker 4: You talk about the shotgun snap dropping, the shotgun snap

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Speaker 4: it leading to a Philadelphia score forty five yards total passing.

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Speaker 6: It's it will be better.

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Speaker 2: Can I qualify that though I can get worse?

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Speaker 5: Well, let me qualify that because I think we all

746
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Speaker 5: have a certain impression of him from what happened when

747
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Speaker 5: he had to play those five games, whatever it was.

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Speaker 2: But there were a lot of different factors involved.

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Speaker 5: You had a much better defense, which, by the way,

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Speaker 5: the way the defense played the other night closer to

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Speaker 5: what you had there, But it was a different offense,

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Speaker 5: even it was a different play caller. There were a

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Speaker 5: lot of different things that factored in. I guess what

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to get to is without some of those things,

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Speaker 5: did we maybe overvalue him then? Did we maybe give

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Speaker 5: him a lot more credit? Sure, then maybe he was

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Speaker 5: due and what we're seeing right now is closer to

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Speaker 5: what he is. Or do you think he really what

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Speaker 5: you've seen and all the practices you've watched and everything.

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Speaker 2: Do you think he's just better and that was just

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Speaker 2: a bad day.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I look back at the Atlanta game and

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Speaker 4: I see a guy who was able to move the

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Speaker 4: offense toffdfield, and he did it in a He had

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Speaker 4: that team in a position that, if you know, the

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Speaker 4: ball bounced their on an on site kick, they would

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Speaker 4: have had a chance to win that game. So I

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Speaker 4: think it was more so a product of Philadelphia being

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Speaker 4: able to prepare for Cooper Rush going into the week,

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Speaker 4: having a guy like Kellen Moore in the building to

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Speaker 4: do so, and then they just they went all out

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Speaker 4: after him and he was not able to do anything.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think back to training camp specifically this

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Speaker 4: year and being you know, when there was a question

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Speaker 4: about if a QB two battle was ongoing. You pay

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Speaker 4: a lot more attention to Cooper Rush and Trey Lance

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Speaker 4: and whenever they make mistakes, whenever they do things right,

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Speaker 4: and compared to last training camp, I feel like Cooper

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Speaker 4: Rush maybe took a step down, but very clear still

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Speaker 4: to QB two in that sense, but he was making

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Speaker 4: a little bit more mistakes this year than we got

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Speaker 4: used to seeing him whenever he was starting back in

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Speaker 4: those five six games and whenever he was in the

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Speaker 4: preseason last year. And then also I think it's really

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Speaker 4: important to note that this team went all in with

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Speaker 4: Trey Lance in the preseason. Yeah, and they didn't give

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Speaker 4: Cooper Rush any time really at all during the preseason.

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Speaker 4: It was that first game where he had a couple

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Speaker 4: of series and then we didn't see Cooper Rush. You know,

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Speaker 4: how much is that just being super rusty and not

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Speaker 4: being on a field and over a year. You know,

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Speaker 4: we're talking about sixteen months at this point, so I

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Speaker 4: wonder how much that is factored in. And you know,

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Speaker 4: you asked Cooper. He won't give you any of those excuses.

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Speaker 4: He said, I got to play better. But I think

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Speaker 4: in the back of his mind even he has to

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Speaker 4: think about, Okay, if I had had those three games

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Speaker 4: to play in the preseason, how much more would I

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Speaker 4: be able to catch up the speed?

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Speaker 7: Right now, I think this one's not going to fall

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Speaker 7: on the quarterbacks. This one's going to fall on the

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Speaker 7: offensive line and the receivers. You know, if they're going

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Speaker 7: to have you know, Cooper Rush and Trey Lance are

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Speaker 7: who they are. Yeah, but you're going to have to

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Speaker 7: find a way to win on the outside, you know.

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Speaker 7: There we talked about, there's a lot of they play

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Speaker 7: with a lot of cushion here, but you've got to

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Speaker 7: be ready for You've got to be ready for the secondary.

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Speaker 7: I mean they're good. I mean, you put put Trey

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Speaker 7: Lance out there, You're liable to have four interceptions in

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Speaker 7: this game, you know, if you really are if if

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Speaker 7: that's the case, so it's going to be about how

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Speaker 7: well are they can they win on the outside, can

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Speaker 7: find a way to win on the outside. If they

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Speaker 7: do find a way to win, can they block the front?

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Speaker 7: Can they block Will Anderson? Can they block Settle? Can

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Speaker 7: they block Hunter? Can they block these guys? Can they

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Speaker 7: block these linebackers? That's another thing that they're gonna have

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Speaker 7: to deal with. I think the quarterback play will be important.

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Speaker 7: But what's going on around, you know, Houston. If they

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Speaker 7: completely shut you down at wide receiver, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 7: what Cooper Rush or Trey Lance do. It doesn't matter,

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Speaker 7: you know. But they they they they're gonna the Tolbert

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Speaker 7: and Lamb and these guys are turping. They're gonna they're

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Speaker 7: gonna need to win, you know. I mean, they're probably

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Speaker 7: not gonna win every play, but they're gonna need to win.

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Speaker 7: And if but if they don't, this this, like I said,

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Speaker 7: this's got a kind of a Detroit vibe to me

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Speaker 7: a little bit. With the pressure and then the guy's

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Speaker 7: covering on the back end. That that's that's that's what

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Speaker 7: needs to happen.

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Speaker 8: I think, Well, yeah, and this is no attack to

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Speaker 8: Cooper Rush because I think he's been such a good

834
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Speaker 8: backup quarterback and we've seen it before in the past

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Speaker 8: where he's been able to win games for this team.

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Speaker 8: But he's a backup quarterback for a reason, Like he's

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Speaker 8: not necessarily meant to be the savior and come in

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Speaker 8: and just put everything on his shoulder. You know, he

839
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Speaker 8: needs the type of that type of help around. He

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Speaker 8: needs the receivers to be getting open, creating separation, hitting

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Speaker 8: their marks, and everyone just kind of working seamless. Seem seamlessly, yeah,

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Speaker 8: seems Yeah.

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Speaker 7: He needs to be accurate though too. If they do

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Speaker 7: get open, you know, they can't. This is we always

845
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Speaker 7: talk about this. The margin of error for this team

846
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Speaker 7: is zero. They can't they can't afford when they when

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Speaker 7: they have a guy open, they can't afford a mispass.

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Speaker 7: They can't afford to drop, they can't afford you know,

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Speaker 7: a penalty when they get a big play. You know,

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Speaker 7: there's you can say about a lot of teams, but

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Speaker 7: especially this team on offense. They are really challenged in

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Speaker 7: a lot of areas right now.

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Speaker 8: But see, one of the things that was really positive

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Speaker 8: when Dak went out that season, Kellen Moore knew how

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Speaker 8: to adjust to his quarterback. He started playing into what

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Speaker 8: Cooper rush strengths were and adjusting to his game. He

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Speaker 8: was a lot more comfortable with those second team guys,

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Speaker 8: the backup receivers he had, he's had, he had been

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Speaker 8: practicing with them all the time, and the connection was

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Speaker 8: better there than it was with a lot of the

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Speaker 8: starters at the time. So I think that's where it's lacking.

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Speaker 8: And something that I didn't feel like I saw last

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Speaker 8: week was Mike McCarthy kind of adjusting to what Cooper

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Speaker 8: Rush is and just changing the play calling a little

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Speaker 8: bit to work better on his favor. So I think

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Speaker 8: it's a combination of everybody. You need to be able

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Speaker 8: to do a lot more adjusting to cater to Cooper Rush.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know it's impossible, I shouldn't say impossible, but

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Speaker 5: highly unlikely to just change your offense in the middle

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Speaker 5: of the season due to a quarterback going down. But

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Speaker 5: if it were up to me, I think I would

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Speaker 5: really lean into using Trey Lance and doing a lot

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Speaker 5: of read option, and especially against.

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Speaker 2: A defense like this, Well, I know it's it's a

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Speaker 2: hard thing to do.

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Speaker 7: It's a very hard thing to do and got to

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Speaker 7: be able to do it though.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I hear what you're saying, and I think that

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Speaker 5: especially when I hear when I hear this defense that

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Speaker 5: they're going to play this weekend and all the challenges

881
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Speaker 5: they present to you, one thing that can always throw

882
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Speaker 5: a defense like that, I don't care how good they are,

883
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Speaker 5: is to see something for the first time. And what

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Speaker 5: I mean by that is if you haven't put it

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Speaker 5: on film, then they're not expecting it from you, and

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Speaker 5: so them having to defend it means they have to

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Speaker 5: defend it on the fly. They have to figure it

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Speaker 5: out on the fly because they're not preparing for that

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Speaker 5: all week. And I think when you're outmatched, as it

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Speaker 5: seems like they may be this week, this would be

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Speaker 5: a great time for them to roll out something like

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Speaker 5: that and just choose a ton of read option with

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Speaker 5: this quarterback that has all this ability with leg with

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Speaker 5: his legs, and not play into what they really want

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Speaker 5: you to do, which is they want you to throw

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Speaker 5: the ball.

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Speaker 2: They want to get they want those interceptions.

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Speaker 16: Right.

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Speaker 5: I think that would be how I would look at

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Speaker 5: this game, But again, that's a challenging thing to do.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to make it seem like it's just simple.

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Speaker 5: You can just go and just change your whole offense

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Speaker 5: in a week. But I do think if it were me,

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Speaker 5: I would be like, at this point in the season

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Speaker 5: where you are, he'd be worth a shot for me.

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Speaker 7: You know I agree?

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Speaker 5: All right, real quick, before we end the show, I

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Speaker 5: did have one more question for you guys. What are

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00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 5: some ideas some ways that maybe the Cowboys can look

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Speaker 5: at getting Ced more involved When you have the challenges

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Speaker 5: you have right now at wide, at quarterback, he is

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Speaker 5: your best offensive player.

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Speaker 2: How can you get him more involved in the.

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Speaker 4: Game quick, short routes, I think, especially against this defense,

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Speaker 4: you know, there's opportunities for the drags like we said,

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Speaker 4: and the crossers. I think, you know, short quick routes

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Speaker 4: will get him in the mix and allow him to

919
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Speaker 4: use his run for catchability. There were multiple times in

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Speaker 4: that Eagles game. I think I mentioned earlier in the

921
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Speaker 4: week he had a hell of a game against the Eagles,

922
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Speaker 4: but Kooper rushes couldn't find him find There was multiple

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Speaker 4: times where he got opened downfield. And there was one

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Speaker 4: place specifically I think was the uh the fumble from

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Speaker 4: ferguson correct Cooper rush mist a wide open CD Lamb

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Speaker 4: on that play that probably would have gone for six

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Speaker 4: and you kind of just see CD walk to the

928
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Speaker 4: sideline after the fumble and just like you know, like

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Speaker 4: it's it's one of those. So you got to keep

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Speaker 4: CD engaged a and I think you do that with short,

931
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Speaker 4: quick routes. I think he's approaching an NFL record of

932
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Speaker 4: four or more receptions to start a career, or four

933
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Speaker 4: more consecutive games with four and more receptions. I think

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Speaker 4: he only needs one more to match Michael Thomas for

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Speaker 4: the NFL records. Something to keep an eye on there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think if they're gonna give you cushion, you're

937
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Speaker 7: you're right about the quick stuff, you know, but some

938
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Speaker 7: routes need to be down the field though, too. You know,

939
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Speaker 7: you need to find a way to And I would say, okay,

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Speaker 7: if they're gonna play a ton of man coverage, get

941
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Speaker 7: in a bunch of bunch of formations and scatter and

942
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 7: pick and do stuff like that. But if they're gonna

943
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Speaker 7: give you cushion, you know, take advantage of that. Get

944
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Speaker 7: the ball out quick, let it let it you know,

945
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Speaker 7: let it fly. Hey, gain is six on first down

946
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Speaker 7: is not a bad play. Gain is seven on first

947
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Speaker 7: down not a bad play. But they're gonna need to

948
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Speaker 7: they're gonna need several of those. Just can't get behind

949
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Speaker 7: the change. But I can say if they were playing

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Speaker 7: a ton of man coverage, that would be my adjustment.

951
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Speaker 7: Would get in a bunch of formations, scatter that stuff,

952
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Speaker 7: run picks for him, make these texts, and defensive backs

953
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Speaker 7: have to run through trash. But you know, we'll see

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Speaker 7: how it plays. I just feel like it's going to

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Speaker 7: be Lamb will probably be able to get open and

956
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Speaker 7: do what he needs to do. I worry about the others'

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Speaker 7: that's what? And and can Cooper Rush know when he

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Speaker 7: needs to go to Lamb and not the others in

959
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Speaker 7: this football game?

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Speaker 8: I think, Yeah, it's more being on the same page.

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Speaker 8: And hopefully an extra week of this in preparation will

962
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Speaker 8: help towards that. And again, also, it's gonna be nighttime.

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Speaker 8: It's a night game.

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Speaker 7: There's no sun.

965
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Speaker 2: What about the moon?

966
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Speaker 8: The moon is not gonna blind you.

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Speaker 6: Ceedee Lamb.

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Speaker 4: He has recorded at least four receptions and forty two

969
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Speaker 4: consecutive games, the second longest such streaking NFL history. Only

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Speaker 4: Michael Thomas with forty three games, has a longer streak,

971
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Speaker 4: so he can match that streak this week.

972
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Speaker 7: Four catches for twenty eight yards.

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Speaker 6: That's kind of how it was last week.

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Speaker 2: Six catches for twenty eight years.

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Speaker 9: All iright.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys doing us.

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Speaker 5: We'll be back on tomorrow and we'll give you a breakdown,

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Speaker 5: the final breakdown of Cowboys versus Texans that will happen

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Speaker 5: Monday night till then.

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Speaker 8: For your care, I.

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Speaker 5: Will not be here, but these guys will hold it down.

982
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Speaker 5: I'm sure Am will have a great game for you

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Speaker 5: guys and yet anytime. But I'll be back with you

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Speaker 5: guys on Tuesday. We won't have any shows on Monday

985
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Speaker 5: because it's game day, but we'll be back on Tuesday.

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Speaker 5: We'll tell you what all went right and wrong on Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Till then.

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Speaker 5: For Nick Harris, Brian brought us an Amber Garcia. I'm

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Speaker 5: Derek Eaglean. This has been The Break live on Dallas

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