WEBVTT - Schwarbombs, Schwarbombs, Schwarbombs

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Bryce Harper and welcome to the Philly Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, everybody, Welcome to the Philly Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd Solecki. It's Friday, September sixth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four. Ruben's in Miami. I was in Toronto

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<v Speaker 1>this week. I flew home.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look at that.

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<v Speaker 1>I got the palm trees in the back, Ruben. It

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<v Speaker 1>looks like the weather is probably a little warmer than

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<v Speaker 1>in Toronto. It was gorgeous in Toronto this week.

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<v Speaker 3>It was spectacular in Toronto. Loved it. It is a

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<v Speaker 3>little obviously a little bit more humid, but not like

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<v Speaker 3>terrible typically around this time.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, it's like terrible. But there's sweating bullets.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not too bad. Nice little breeze to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry about you know, some of the background noise. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know they got they got you know, they got

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<v Speaker 3>nice stuff going on over here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Waterfalls, Yeah, yeah, I got the waterfalls going Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely lived a tough life. I live a very tough life.

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<v Speaker 1>You live a charmed life, Reven, There's no doubt, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>I flew back yesterday from Toronto, and I got to

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<v Speaker 1>sitting you know, you get back home. And my wife

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<v Speaker 1>was always dealing with the three kids and working full

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<v Speaker 1>time and stuff like that. So I had some fun

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<v Speaker 1>with her yesterday. Every time she'd asked me to do something,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you know, hey, listen, I got to recalibrate.

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<v Speaker 1>I man, I was to fly internationally this morning to

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<v Speaker 1>get home, you know, And she's like, it's an hour flight.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about. Get it done? So about

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<v Speaker 1>the eighth time of me dropping down and she had

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<v Speaker 1>had enough.

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<v Speaker 2>But I try to.

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<v Speaker 1>Try to keep being entertaining for myself as I get

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<v Speaker 1>back situated with with the real world. Phillies win on

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday night in Miami five two. You know, they sweep

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<v Speaker 1>the Blue Jays. You know, Kyle Schwarber has a tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>weet and rubin. One of my favorite moments of the

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<v Speaker 1>week was I want to ask you about this. Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>Schwarber hits that go ahead home run in the ninth inning,

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<v Speaker 1>and the ball was hit so hard, so fast. If

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<v Speaker 1>you listen to the replay, I can hear you go oh,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's almost it almost happens instantaneously as the ball

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<v Speaker 1>hits the bat, the crack of the bat times up

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<v Speaker 1>almost perfectly. Like, as soon as he made contact, you

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<v Speaker 1>knew it was gone right.

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<v Speaker 2>It was majestic.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when he gets in those modes, when he's

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<v Speaker 3>locked in and he's got that super great balance, almost

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<v Speaker 3>every swing becomes must CYTV. And for me, when he

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<v Speaker 3>took that swing and as I almost sort of anticipated,

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<v Speaker 3>I said, ib, he throws another pitch in that area

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<v Speaker 3>and he's gonna collaborate, and oh my goodness, gracious, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it was like a It was literally like an explosion

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<v Speaker 3>off the bat. And and the way he hits him

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<v Speaker 3>let me there, they're beautiful home runs. There are some

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<v Speaker 3>great he hit some bullets. He hit some that was

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<v Speaker 3>like a majestic one. Man, it was like and it

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<v Speaker 3>was so timely. Man, it was a beautiful. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I couldn't help I couldn't help my emotion. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like totally.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think everybody in the ballpark did it.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, like I thought, I just thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>so funny because your reaction was like, you knew it

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as the ball left the bat that that

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<v Speaker 1>ball was going to be a missile. Is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the only question was it was gonna be fair. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it was obviously wayfair, but but uh just destroyed it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah when when you know, you know, when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>up of his bad man.

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<v Speaker 4>I think everybody did that. Larry Anderson even did it

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<v Speaker 4>on the radio. He just when he catches it just

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit out in front, and he's such an

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<v Speaker 4>you mentioned balance, He's such a rhythm balance hitter that

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<v Speaker 4>when he is on and squaring it up and seeing

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<v Speaker 4>it and feeling good and in a groove, he's incredibly

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<v Speaker 4>fun to watch it. And when you take the strength

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<v Speaker 4>and he's just incredible. Was strong man, and add that

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<v Speaker 4>bat speed.

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<v Speaker 5>And you hit a ball on the button like that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know it's gonna make a loud noise and it's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna go a long way.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know he he was in such a tough

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<v Speaker 1>funk going into that game, you know, the like I

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<v Speaker 1>think he had gone seventeen straight games without a home

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<v Speaker 1>run or you know, fifteen sixteen, seventeen straight games without

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<v Speaker 1>a home run. He sat in the cage following Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>night's game in Atlanta. He was really frustrated how he

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<v Speaker 1>was hitting. He talked through some things with the hitting coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>worked on some things. Saturday is the last at bat,

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<v Speaker 1>he hits this hard line out to center field, and

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<v Speaker 1>talking to Rob Thompson on Tuesday, he's like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a good sign. You know, I really like

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<v Speaker 1>that at bat.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, that says something and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of file that away, right, you know, Jim, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're writing a story, you're thinking about stories.

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<v Speaker 2>Of that night.

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<v Speaker 1>You go, okay, let me remember that. You know that

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<v Speaker 1>that line out to center field to end, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the ninth inning on on Sunday night, and then boom,

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<v Speaker 1>lead off home run, Like okay.

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<v Speaker 4>And I also think that brings in the mental aspect

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<v Speaker 4>of the game and the mental aspect of hitting. When

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<v Speaker 4>you hit a ball on the button like that square

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<v Speaker 4>one up, it feels good and it brings you back

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<v Speaker 4>to a good place in your mind. And so often

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<v Speaker 4>in this game, you know, the mind can lead the body,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think that that has a big part of it.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like you finish with a good swing, you can't

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<v Speaker 4>wait to get to the ballpark the next day. It's

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<v Speaker 4>like when you're a hack golfer and you have a

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<v Speaker 4>good hole on eighteen, you come back.

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<v Speaker 5>It's all kind of the same.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all kind of the same phenomena in your between

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<v Speaker 4>the years.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's another piece of that too, because for me

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<v Speaker 3>as a player and as a coach and an ex coach,

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<v Speaker 3>when you try to implement something and you tweak something

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<v Speaker 3>and you have almost immediate success, that's important because like

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<v Speaker 3>say he was working on X on the balancer, making

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<v Speaker 3>a good choice with his swing, whatever the case may

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<v Speaker 3>be for him, to like have that sort of immediately

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<v Speaker 3>work for him and to have it, you know, have

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<v Speaker 3>some positivity out of that, that's huge because then you

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<v Speaker 3>can then your mind, you say, you say to yourself, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>all that works sort of paying off, and it's paying

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<v Speaker 3>off immediately, I'm getting immediate dividends, and then it kind

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<v Speaker 3>of then it kind of carries you through.

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy mentioned golf. Schwarbro also said in terms of like

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<v Speaker 1>state of mind, he played golf on Monday on the

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<v Speaker 1>off day with some of his teammates. He said, I

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<v Speaker 1>did not shoot well, but I had fun. And then

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<v Speaker 1>later he got Tyreek Hill with the fourth overall pick

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<v Speaker 1>in his fantasy football league, so he seemed pretty excited

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<v Speaker 1>about that.

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<v Speaker 2>So so she had.

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<v Speaker 1>Some good off the field stuff due to carry into

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday before he hit those those three home runs and

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<v Speaker 1>that that dramatic win against against Toronto.

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<v Speaker 3>So you talk about again, I'll go back to what

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<v Speaker 3>French he said, you know, when he saw that these

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<v Speaker 3>guys were coming in and playing off and being relaxed,

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<v Speaker 3>and how how much he felt like that that was

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a team that they felt that he

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<v Speaker 3>felt like was confident and comfortable. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the reasons why Topper allows these guys to

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<v Speaker 3>play golf. And you know, there's some there're some managers

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<v Speaker 3>who just basically say, you know what, shut it down.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not doing it, it's taking too much energy, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that these guys manage it well enough, and

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<v Speaker 3>Topper gives them the leeway to manage it well enough

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<v Speaker 3>so that you know, they they're still having joy and

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<v Speaker 3>being able to do some fun things while they're grinding

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<v Speaker 3>through the season.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a good it's a good outlet.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, it's timely because we just talked a

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<v Speaker 4>lot about that with John Smoltz on our last episode,

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<v Speaker 4>which if you haven't listened to it, I would urge

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<v Speaker 4>you too, because I just think the guy is brilliant,

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<v Speaker 4>really insightful, and he tells good stories and he very

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<v Speaker 4>uh he knows the Phillies very well because he watches them, so, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>don't be afraid to cue that one up right, Todd.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, we had We had some fun with him.

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<v Speaker 1>He told some great stories. I still like the story

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<v Speaker 1>about how Philly has tried to lure him to Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 1>as a free agent by giving him some Marion in

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<v Speaker 1>Pine Valley time.

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<v Speaker 2>Why not? Yeah, exactly. You know one more thing about Schwarber.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think Phillies fans have finally warmed up to

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Schwarber being the leadoff hitter? Because I mentioned this

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<v Speaker 1>to Rob Thompson on Wednesday after the game. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we haven't really heard any griping about the

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<v Speaker 1>leadoff hitter in a while. It's been months and months really,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe since opening before Opening Day, I haven't heard anybody

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<v Speaker 1>bring up, you know, should he put turner up there?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Schwarber's got to hit lower in the lineup.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe people have finally accepted the fact that he's not

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<v Speaker 1>half bad in that leadoff spot. Tied a major league

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<v Speaker 1>record on Tuesday Wednesday with thirteen leadoff home runs in

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<v Speaker 1>a season, tied Alfonso Story on with the Yankees in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three.

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<v Speaker 5>It'll be a topic of conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>The next time was fourth straight. It's a convenient rainy

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<v Speaker 4>day conversation. But you know he's he's very good in

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<v Speaker 4>the lead off. Well, it's unconventional. I will acknowledge that.

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<v Speaker 4>But before Kyle Schwartz, Kyle Schwarber arrived, they hadn't been

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<v Speaker 4>to the postseason in ten straight years. They targeted him.

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<v Speaker 4>Kevin Long, you know, loved him from Washington and they.

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<v Speaker 5>Believed he could lead off.

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<v Speaker 4>Even when they were targeting him, this just didn't manifest

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<v Speaker 4>itself in Philadelphia. And you know, he's been here and

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<v Speaker 4>this is his third year and they're headed to the

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<v Speaker 4>postseason for a third straight year after missing it ten straight.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think it's been a one of the best

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<v Speaker 4>signings for franchise history.

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<v Speaker 1>And we will be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>And we are back and Jim, that's perfect time because

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<v Speaker 1>we just lost Ruben on the Wi Fi. We just

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<v Speaker 1>lost Ruben on the Wi Fi.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe he got arrested in Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>They just yanked them off.

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<v Speaker 5>They yanked them off.

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<v Speaker 1>The computered slam shut. He's claiming wife by issues, but

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<v Speaker 1>we we will keep soldiering on.

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<v Speaker 5>You probably had he probably had a tea time ye.

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<v Speaker 2>The old my Wifi's bed.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim and Todd, I can't finish this episode.

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<v Speaker 5>Because he plays more golf than anyone we know.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe more than John Smoltz, definitely more than May anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what this this is also a perfect time

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<v Speaker 2>This week's Quote of the Week.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this was interesting because I know people have

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<v Speaker 1>been talking about it a lot, really the last week.

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<v Speaker 1>This quote comes from Bryce Harper following Wednesday Night's game.

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<v Speaker 1>He gets hit on the left elbow with a pitch.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got the bad right elbow, he's got a bad wrist,

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<v Speaker 1>sore wrist. He's been bad. He's absolutely banged up. Asked him,

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<v Speaker 1>is there any argument to be made Jim sitting for

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<v Speaker 1>sitting him for a few days. Hey, we got Ruben

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<v Speaker 1>back and that's all right. So we're getting into Bryce Harper.

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<v Speaker 1>Bryce Harper had this quote said, I just don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how good I'll feel if I take one or two days.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. I feel like I'll feel

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<v Speaker 1>the same if I do take two days off or

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that. That's a conversation we've had before. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like I'm going to feel the exact

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<v Speaker 1>same if I do take two or three days off

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<v Speaker 1>and I come back. In other words, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna keep playing right now, and I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>can hurt myself anymore. That was another thing he said

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of his right elbow. On Tuesday night, in

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<v Speaker 1>the ninth inning, he takes a swing and miss, he grabs.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he winces in pain. Everybody goes, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>the elbow.

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<v Speaker 2>The elbow.

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<v Speaker 1>His understanding is that he cannot hurt the elbow anymore

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<v Speaker 1>than it already is, So he says, don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to see me wins in pain again in

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<v Speaker 1>the future when I swing and miss, when I follow

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<v Speaker 1>off a pitch.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just the way it is.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you think about Bryce Harper kind of

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<v Speaker 1>playing through this. Would you just say I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>what you say and rest him or do you keep

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<v Speaker 1>throwing them out there.

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<v Speaker 5>You mentioned they've had a lot of conversations about it.

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<v Speaker 4>I bet they talk about it every day, and if

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<v Speaker 4>they thought it was the right thing to do, I

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<v Speaker 4>think they do it. I don't know why they're backing

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<v Speaker 4>off it. Maybe they just feel like, you know, sitting

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<v Speaker 4>in for ten days and then having to start him

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<v Speaker 4>back up again because there is sort of that break

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<v Speaker 4>in period and you know, he usually comes off the

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<v Speaker 4>aisle with him great game and then sometimes he cools

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit. Maybe they just don't want to go

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<v Speaker 4>through that that period so close to the finish line here.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm sure he's in on these conversations. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 4>they've done a lot of diagnostics on them, and they

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<v Speaker 4>don't feel like it can get worse and play through it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we we only hear the tip of the iceberg.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think rest is the answer, but I'm sure

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<v Speaker 4>they've just done a ton of homework on it, and

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<v Speaker 4>and there's there's more to it than that leads them

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<v Speaker 4>to believe he can play through this.

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<v Speaker 5>So if they're good with it, I'm good with it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the same thing with Bohm.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know why they haven't dled Boom or iled

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<v Speaker 4>Boom because you're at a competitive disadvantage.

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<v Speaker 5>You're playing with a short bench every night.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, I know rosters has expanded, so it's a little

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<v Speaker 4>easier to swallow. But you know, they they spend a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of time on this stuff, this this medical stuff

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<v Speaker 4>and the sports science, and I think this close to

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<v Speaker 4>the finish line, you got to kind of trust him

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>So Paul Bukhit is there basically runs their their medical

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<v Speaker 3>side of things, and he's super thorough. He's got a

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<v Speaker 3>great background. I've known him since I was in Boston

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<v Speaker 3>as a coach. They know what they're doing and just

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<v Speaker 3>having seen Bryce around, his spirits are great. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think it's bringing him down at all. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>it's one of those situations where he just feels and

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<v Speaker 3>they feel like it's not going to go getting worse

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<v Speaker 3>as he continues to play. So if that's the case

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<v Speaker 3>and he's going to continue to play, now there may

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<v Speaker 3>be a point if they clean s, if they you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if they put themselves in a position to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to have the best record, that maybe they can back

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<v Speaker 3>off for a couple of days.

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<v Speaker 2>But until then, man, he's too competitive. He's gonna want

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<v Speaker 2>to play.

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<v Speaker 3>It's these games are too important and he's and he's

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<v Speaker 3>too important to them, and he knows it.

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<v Speaker 4>And and they're tied again. They're tied again for the

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<v Speaker 4>best record, right because you know, we know what Citizens

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<v Speaker 4>Bank Park can be like as a home field advantage

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<v Speaker 4>Game six and seven notwithstanding.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, yeah, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Doubt that once they're all signed, sealed and delivered, he

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<v Speaker 4>gets a couple of days. But as far as shutting

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<v Speaker 4>him down for ten days, it's just if it hasn't

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<v Speaker 4>happened already, it ain't happening.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm sure they have a good reason for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you mentioned the Dodgers. They have the tiebreaker two

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<v Speaker 1>against the Dodgers, So if the season end of today,

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<v Speaker 1>the Phillies would have home fields. So keep that in mind.

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<v Speaker 1>As he kind of followed the standings down the stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I'll also say this about Bryce. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like in the past he is somebody who if

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<v Speaker 1>he feels like he cannot play or is or feels

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<v Speaker 1>like he can really mess himself up. He will, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of pull himself out or wasn't. Was it late

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<v Speaker 1>last season where he he DHD quite a few games

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<v Speaker 1>late in the season rather than play first base because

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<v Speaker 1>his back was bothering him, or maybe it was the

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<v Speaker 1>season before there was something going on where he was

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<v Speaker 1>it might have been, you know, he he just was

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<v Speaker 1>not one hundred percent, so he did not either played

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<v Speaker 1>in the field, or he did not play a few

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<v Speaker 1>games because he was kind of worried about really messing

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<v Speaker 1>himself up. So again, the fact that he says, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to take a few days off to me

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<v Speaker 1>says it says it all. I don't think. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think Bryce is not the type of person that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to throw away the entire season by trying to be

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<v Speaker 1>mister Macho's.

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<v Speaker 4>He's probably just gearing up to do like a Superman

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<v Speaker 4>act in the postseason, like have a two home run game.

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody's like, wow, we hadn't hit a home run.

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<v Speaker 4>In weeks because he was at a you know, sore

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<v Speaker 4>elbow and a sore wrist, and you know he's Superman tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>So who knows one thing one thing.

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<v Speaker 6>One thing I've.

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<v Speaker 3>Learned about Bryce Harper is he's pretty much thoughtful about everything,

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<v Speaker 3>and he thinks through a lot of things, much more

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<v Speaker 3>than any other player I think I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe Chase Utley he did that too, but.

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<v Speaker 3>He did it, I guess more quietly, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I trust his decisions. He's been around too long. He's

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<v Speaker 3>been around the game too long. He thinks about this

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<v Speaker 3>stuff way too much for him to put the team

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<v Speaker 3>in jeopardy or himself.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent there, Zach Wheeler starts to Night against

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<v Speaker 1>Edward Cabrera, Aaron Nola, Saturday night against Darren McConn and

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<v Speaker 1>then an interesting little decision the Phillies made yesterday is

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<v Speaker 1>that Seth Johnson, who they just got in the Gregory

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<v Speaker 1>Soto trade, is going to start on Sunday in place

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<v Speaker 1>of Tyler Phillips. Tyler Phillips goes out and gives up

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<v Speaker 1>six runs and two thirds of an inning. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, his last four I think he's got an

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<v Speaker 1>the array of over seventeen. So they pull him out,

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<v Speaker 1>They option him out, and Seth Johnson gets a start,

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<v Speaker 1>which again is fascinating because they they traded Gregory Soto

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<v Speaker 1>to get this guy and Moysey's Chasse, who's also throwing

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<v Speaker 1>the ball incredibly well in the minor leagues. What do

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<v Speaker 1>we think about Seth Johnson making his debut? That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it depends how he pitches on but man,

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<v Speaker 1>talk about a trade that could pay immediate evidence who

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. At the time, you're thinking it's more

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<v Speaker 1>of an addition by subtraction trade, right, You're just saying

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<v Speaker 1>that get Sodo out of there. He's not happy, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not throwing, well, get him out boom. Seth Johnson could

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<v Speaker 1>come up and really be a nice little, nice little

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<v Speaker 1>bonus prize.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to judge the trade on Sunday. You'd

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<v Speaker 4>like to see the pitch well. But you know, more importantly,

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<v Speaker 4>they added a couple of good young arms to their

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<v Speaker 4>system and Seth Johnson former first round pick, first round

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<v Speaker 4>arm he's had. You know, he was slowed by the

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<v Speaker 4>COVID season, he was slowed by Tommy john but all

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<v Speaker 4>indications are you know, he's starting to put it together

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<v Speaker 4>and sometimes it takes guy's time. I mean there are many,

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<v Speaker 4>many examples of that, so you know Soto has gotten

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<v Speaker 4>it together. A little bit down in Baltimore. He's running

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<v Speaker 4>up a bunch of zeros lately. But he didn't want

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<v Speaker 4>to be here, and you can't have a guy who

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<v Speaker 4>didn't want to be here, wasn't accepting of his role.

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<v Speaker 4>And to add two good young arms, I think it

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<v Speaker 4>has the potential to be a hell of a trade.

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<v Speaker 5>You know how important pitching is.

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<v Speaker 4>Anytime you can add to your stocks with good stock

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<v Speaker 4>of pitching with good arms, it's a good move. But

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<v Speaker 4>you'd love to see the kid pitch well, establish himself,

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<v Speaker 4>and pitching depth is so important and so needed in

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<v Speaker 4>this franchise. It would be great if you pitch well.

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<v Speaker 4>It'd be even better if he comes to camp next

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<v Speaker 4>year with a chance to earn a spot on the

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<v Speaker 4>big league roster or go to Triple A and be

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<v Speaker 4>that sixth guy that you know you're going to rely

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<v Speaker 4>on at some point. So really eager to see what

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<v Speaker 4>he can do Sunday, and really eager to see what

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<v Speaker 4>Zach Wheeler can do tonight because he is in a

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<v Speaker 4>he's in a sprint to the cy Young with Chris Saale,

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<v Speaker 4>who dialed up another really good one against Colorado the

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<v Speaker 4>other night.

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<v Speaker 3>So I typically do not like moving players on your

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<v Speaker 3>major league roster to just shift things around. But in

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<v Speaker 3>this case, I think it's going to work out very,

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<v Speaker 3>very well. It was a little bit of a buy

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<v Speaker 3>subtraction for Soto, and again I don't typically when you're

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<v Speaker 3>in a hunt, you don't typically want to do that,

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<v Speaker 3>But you're right about that, Jim. I don't think he

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to be hear didn't fit and it was clear

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<v Speaker 3>that that was the case. And if they can get

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<v Speaker 3>something out of him that becomes productive, that's pretty awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>It obviously interested to see how he handles things on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, just like any other player, some of.

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<v Speaker 3>These guys just need a new place to play. They

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<v Speaker 3>need a fresh start. They need somebody who might get

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<v Speaker 3>in there in their head a little bit and give

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<v Speaker 3>him a little bit different information that might help them click,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever the case may be.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully that's what's happening with this young man.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, roll the dice because their fifth spot

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<v Speaker 3>right now is kind of ugly.

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<v Speaker 2>No one's really stepped forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Alard has pitched well in that in that role, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think they want to give this guy a shot

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<v Speaker 3>because he's pitched so damn.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, Alan is eligible to be recalled on September tenth.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess if Seth Johnson's struggles and they feel

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<v Speaker 1>like there's you know, they they have the option to

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<v Speaker 1>bring an alert back. But I guess if Seth takes

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<v Speaker 1>it and shows well, maybe they just keep him, keep

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<v Speaker 1>him in that spot. There's I think the fourth starter

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<v Speaker 1>only has like four more starts to go this season,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, so you can suck it up.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, they're a good really good shape.

0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:20.680
<v Speaker 4>You know, you win the first you win two in Toronto,

0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:23.760
<v Speaker 4>you won five in a row. Excuse me, you win

0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:25.800
<v Speaker 4>the first one in Miami. Now you got Wheeler and

0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:30.080
<v Speaker 4>Nola leading into Johnson. Really good shape going into the

0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:33.760
<v Speaker 4>rest of this series in Miami, especially with Wheeler and Nola.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to ask you, guys, any concern about Ranger

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<v Speaker 4>Suarez is significant and noticeable dip in velocity on Thursday

0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:46.240
<v Speaker 4>night in Miami.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great question. I noticed that as well. It

0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:51.239
<v Speaker 1>was down about what a mile and a half two

0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:53.159
<v Speaker 1>miles an hour? Two miles an hour, right, I mean

0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:57.560
<v Speaker 1>so across the board, yeah, across up. So a guy

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<v Speaker 1>coming off a back injury, when you know they say

0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:02.760
<v Speaker 1>it was a lower back injury, non serious back injury,

0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:05.240
<v Speaker 1>and three starts in he's you know, he struggled in

0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:08.600
<v Speaker 1>his last start. The Velos down. You know, Rob Thompson

0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:11.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't indicate it. He was frustrated or concerned about it

0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:15.120
<v Speaker 1>last night. But that's something you're absolutely gonna watch down

0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:17.600
<v Speaker 1>the stretch. Is you need him healthier. I mean, we're ruben,

0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:19.119
<v Speaker 1>What did you think? I mean, I know he was

0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:21.560
<v Speaker 1>throwing the ball well five scoreless innings, so you can

0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:24.400
<v Speaker 1>obviously make that that that's an easy argument to make. Yeah,

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:27.040
<v Speaker 1>the Velo's down. He didn't have his sinker going, but man,

0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:30.160
<v Speaker 1>he located the off speed pitches were working, and he's

0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:32.280
<v Speaker 1>not really velo guy. No rangers said that in the

0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:34.080
<v Speaker 1>past anytime his Villos, and I was like, listen, I

0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:36.480
<v Speaker 1>never have a good fastball. I haven't had a good

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:38.840
<v Speaker 1>fastball a day in my life. But I don't really

0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:43.360
<v Speaker 1>need it. But down two from what his usual fastball

0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:46.480
<v Speaker 1>is makes makes me wonder.

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:49.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was concerned when it was coming out of

0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 3>his hand in the first inning. There's no question about it.

0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:53.600
<v Speaker 3>Man to Tom and I were looking at each other

0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:56.399
<v Speaker 3>in the booth, going, well, what's going on here. It

0:23:56.480 --> 0:23:58.920
<v Speaker 3>made me think of the Sentae Padia when he used

0:23:58.920 --> 0:23:59.560
<v Speaker 3>to start games.

0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:01.920
<v Speaker 2>He was on like, you know, eighty nine.

0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:04.080
<v Speaker 3>Miles an hour, and I had it called down, like

0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:05.160
<v Speaker 3>what the hell is going on?

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:10.159
<v Speaker 2>Like cut it loose, pal, you hurt? What's going on anyway?

0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:12.119
<v Speaker 3>And then he started throwing ninety five And it's a

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:17.359
<v Speaker 3>weird cat anyway. But that said, what it did concern

0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:21.840
<v Speaker 3>me early. It does still concern me some. But the

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:25.720
<v Speaker 3>fact that I saw some elevation in that velocity as

0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:29.399
<v Speaker 3>the game went on, that's a positive sign. So it

0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:31.240
<v Speaker 3>went sort of like from an eighty eight or eighty

0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:34.080
<v Speaker 3>nine mile on hour fastball to somewhere around ninety ninety

0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:38.439
<v Speaker 3>one on the average later on in the game, and

0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:40.720
<v Speaker 3>he sort of maintained that at least through what eighty

0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:44.560
<v Speaker 3>some pitches. Yeah, is it a concern, Yeah, of course,

0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:49.160
<v Speaker 3>because he's had some issues. He I don't think he's hurt.

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:52.960
<v Speaker 3>But again, I think part of it is a product

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:54.879
<v Speaker 3>of the guy just not having been on the mound.

0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:57.639
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the guy wasn't didn't throw any rehab games.

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<v Speaker 2>It's different. He's his You still have to get your

0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:02.920
<v Speaker 2>sea legs under that. And I know it's a third

0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:03.800
<v Speaker 2>time he's throwing.

0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:06.680
<v Speaker 3>But when you have that that long of a break

0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:09.560
<v Speaker 3>and you don't have an actual rehab start. I know

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:12.399
<v Speaker 3>they did simulated games and all that stuff, it's not

0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:15.200
<v Speaker 3>really the same. And I still I still think he's

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:17.720
<v Speaker 3>working on getting his legs underneath him and his body

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:19.879
<v Speaker 3>back together to the point where.

0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:22.639
<v Speaker 2>He's one hundred percent on the nose.

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 3>Now you know he can pitch it ninety five percent obviously,

0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:29.360
<v Speaker 3>especially against a team like the Miami Marlins because.

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:32.119
<v Speaker 2>It's not a great team. But he did carve up

0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:34.200
<v Speaker 2>his own it was that was that was a positive.

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:38.959
<v Speaker 3>He threw strikes, didn't look like he was laboring, and uh,

0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:40.200
<v Speaker 3>and that that's.

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:43.080
<v Speaker 2>All a good sign. But you know, you got to

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 2>think about it.

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:46.480
<v Speaker 4>So you know what I loved is I did love

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:48.280
<v Speaker 4>the breaking ball was down, down, down.

0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:51.480
<v Speaker 5>I loved that it had really good shape.

0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:54.600
<v Speaker 4>I mean it wasn't you know, it didn't have the

0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 4>velocity we've seen it, but it was down.

0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 5>It had good shape and it was in a good spot.

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 5>So I like that.

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:04.880
<v Speaker 4>Excuse me, I want to Rubin put your GM hat

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:08.359
<v Speaker 4>on for me, and you face these decisions throughout your

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:12.440
<v Speaker 4>whole career. And Todd and I covered them. Rangers got

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:15.359
<v Speaker 4>one more year of arbitration be a free agent after

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:20.120
<v Speaker 4>twenty five. Typically with a pitcher like that, a front

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 4>office would spend the off season and I'm sure they've

0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:25.400
<v Speaker 4>already done it thinking about do they want to engage

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 4>for a long term.

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:28.640
<v Speaker 5>Deal and they may have already who knows, But.

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:34.160
<v Speaker 4>Is that something you know you would do this winter

0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 4>or do you do you want to see more from him,

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:40.720
<v Speaker 4>especially after the bump in the road mid season this

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:42.120
<v Speaker 4>year with the injury or whatnot.

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:45.679
<v Speaker 3>So I think you know, as a GM, you have

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 3>to go back to experience, right and you have to

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:50.199
<v Speaker 3>think about what things, what has happened in the past,

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 3>certain scenarios, and certain things about the game that are

0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:59.199
<v Speaker 3>sort of absolute. I get really concerned about backs.

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 2>They're very tricky. It's a really tricky endeavor.

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:06.720
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Cole Hamil's happened to manage his back issues.

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 2>And did a really good job of it.

0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 3>It was one of the reasons why we were okay

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:12.160
<v Speaker 3>with him going long term because he worked very hard

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 3>at putting himself into a position and to be fine

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:16.680
<v Speaker 3>with his back.

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:18.399
<v Speaker 2>He did a lot of core work, He did a

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 2>lot of.

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 3>Work, you know, whatever is necessary for him to have

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 3>success now, Ranger, because he's had multiple back issues.

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 2>I got to be careful with that. And I think

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:32.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna probably let this play out through the end

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:33.640
<v Speaker 2>of the through the end.

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 3>Of his tenure here with the Phillies, to make sure

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 3>that this guy is.

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Is okay with his back. And I love the guy.

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 3>I would, you know, mind that I that I would

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:55.920
<v Speaker 3>that I would uh, you know, go ahead in and

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 3>and do the long term with him just because of

0:27:57.840 --> 0:27:58.400
<v Speaker 3>who he is.

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:01.440
<v Speaker 2>But my issue you with you know.

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 3>When you got a BA back issue with a picture

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:07.159
<v Speaker 3>or with any player, I think you got to be cautious.

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:10.440
<v Speaker 5>I'm right on board with you. Yeah, I want to

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:10.880
<v Speaker 5>see more.

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:13.920
<v Speaker 4>I want to exercise some caution here. I want to

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:16.359
<v Speaker 4>see him getting great physical shape. I just want to

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 4>see what twenty twenty five looks like. And I would

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 4>love to extend the relationship and have him be a

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:23.160
<v Speaker 4>Philly for a long time. I think he's a great

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 4>picture and a great guy and a great teammate.

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 5>I just want to see a little bit more. And

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 5>I think that's.

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:34.440
<v Speaker 4>Quite uh you know, level headed, and probably something they're

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 4>discussing up on the executive level, how do you kind

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 4>of frame it up?

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Todd, Well, yeah, I think for me, like it's a

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 1>it's a challenge for Ranger next season. You know, can

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 1>you actually go from point A to point B healthy

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 1>an entire entire year. It's not just the back. He's

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 1>had some other health issues over time. I know that

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 1>one spring he had COVID and that knocked him out,

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 1>but but he had He's had elbow and and so

0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 1>I think like, if you would sign him now or

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>in the off season, and you know, something happens down

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>the road, he say, Man, this guy has been hurt

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 1>all the time for whatever reason, and man, you sign

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>him to a long term extension. This guy has never

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 1>been able to stay healthy. So yeah, I would absolutely

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 1>want to see him get through an entire season healthy,

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 1>be productive, and then do it. I don't think there's

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 1>any rush. And they have Wheeler locked up, they have

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Nola locked up, they have Christopher Sanchez locked up, They

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 1>have Andrew Painter coming down the pike, so they have

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:34.719
<v Speaker 1>they have some depth there, they have some options coming.

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 1>So I don't think it's anything urgent. Where like, man,

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 1>if you lose Ranger Suarez, you guys are totally screwed

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 1>going forward. So I think they can afford some patience.

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>They can afford some patience with him. I mean, you know,

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 1>hopefully he dials it in and he gets his money

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 1>and he stays because he's fun and watch like he said.

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so he comes to camp next year totally motivated

0:29:57.560 --> 0:30:00.719
<v Speaker 4>and goes out and has a sig On type season.

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 5>But that's that's win, win, win win forever. Yeah, who cares?

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly.

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 1>John Middleton's shown that if you know, he'll reward guys

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 1>with good seasons. So you know, I think you would

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:15.640
<v Speaker 1>take that that that that that universe where Ranger goes

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>out and he goes all right, guys, you didn't want

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 1>to lock me up the last off season. I'm going

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 1>to go out and win twenty Yeah in the area

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 1>you're right above two.

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 5>Fascinating little off season issue, I think.

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 3>And I used to think of that whole arbitration process,

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 3>which is sort of a necessary evil, like if a

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 3>guy got awarded, you know whatever, whether we lost or

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 3>won or whatever the case may be. I mean, I

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 3>believe in performance and to be paid for performance, and

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 3>if you perform, then you get paid. And that's the

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 3>way it should be, and so if the man does perform,

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 3>then he should be paid handsomely.

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 2>It's as simple as that.

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 4>Well, Ruben, with your crappy internet today, you're not getting

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 4>paid because your performance has been shaky.

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 2>No doubt about it. I sucked, my bad. This is

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:01.560
<v Speaker 2>a billion dollar hotel and I can't get Wi Fi.

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that could be a problem for us.

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 1>All right, guys, Well we will be back on Monday

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>to talk more phillies. So, uh, we had good time,

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>even though Ruben crapped out on us a couple of times.

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 2>It happens.

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 1>This is this is an internet based show, so there's

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if I could behind the scenes, right, We've

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 1>had some we've had some scary moments on here when

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 1>we've had some guests. I'm literally dripping bullets. Cole Hamil's

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 1>when he was on, he was cutting in and out,

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 1>and I mean the sweat coming out of my body

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>was just I was like, oh my god, we're gonna

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:38.400
<v Speaker 1>lose this whole thing.

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 2>So, uh, you know, you don't have to sweat for me, Todd,

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 2>don't worry about.

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 1>That, all right, guys, Uh, I will say, because we

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know if Ruben can say, smell you later, Smell

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 1>you lator boys.

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