1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Bryce Harper and welcome to the Philly Show. 2 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, Welcome to the Philly Show. 3 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd Solecki. It's Friday, September sixth, 4 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Ruben's in Miami. I was in Toronto 5 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: this week. I flew home. 6 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, look at that. 7 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: I got the palm trees in the back, Ruben. It 8 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: looks like the weather is probably a little warmer than 9 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: in Toronto. It was gorgeous in Toronto this week. 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 3: It was spectacular in Toronto. Loved it. It is a 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 3: little obviously a little bit more humid, but not like 12 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 3: terrible typically around this time. 13 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: Man, it's like terrible. But there's sweating bullets. 14 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not too bad. Nice little breeze to it. 15 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 3: Sorry about you know, some of the background noise. But 16 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: you know they got they got you know, they got 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 3: nice stuff going on over here. 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: Waterfalls, Yeah, yeah, I got the waterfalls going Yeah. 20 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely lived a tough life. I live a very tough life. 21 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: You live a charmed life, Reven, There's no doubt, no doubt. 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: I flew back yesterday from Toronto, and I got to 23 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: sitting you know, you get back home. And my wife 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: was always dealing with the three kids and working full 25 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: time and stuff like that. So I had some fun 26 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: with her yesterday. Every time she'd asked me to do something, 27 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 1: I said, you know, hey, listen, I got to recalibrate. 28 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: I man, I was to fly internationally this morning to 29 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: get home, you know, And she's like, it's an hour flight. 30 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: What are you talking about. Get it done? So about 31 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: the eighth time of me dropping down and she had 32 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: had enough. 33 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 2: But I try to. 34 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: Try to keep being entertaining for myself as I get 35 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: back situated with with the real world. Phillies win on 36 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: Thursday night in Miami five two. You know, they sweep 37 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: the Blue Jays. You know, Kyle Schwarber has a tremendous 38 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: weet and rubin. One of my favorite moments of the 39 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: week was I want to ask you about this. Kyle 40 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: Schwarber hits that go ahead home run in the ninth inning, 41 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: and the ball was hit so hard, so fast. If 42 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: you listen to the replay, I can hear you go oh, 43 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: but it's almost it almost happens instantaneously as the ball 44 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: hits the bat, the crack of the bat times up 45 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: almost perfectly. Like, as soon as he made contact, you 46 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: knew it was gone right. 47 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: It was majestic. 48 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 3: You know, when he gets in those modes, when he's 49 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: locked in and he's got that super great balance, almost 50 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 3: every swing becomes must CYTV. And for me, when he 51 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: took that swing and as I almost sort of anticipated, 52 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: I said, ib, he throws another pitch in that area 53 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: and he's gonna collaborate, and oh my goodness, gracious, I mean, 54 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 3: it was like a It was literally like an explosion 55 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 3: off the bat. And and the way he hits him 56 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: let me there, they're beautiful home runs. There are some 57 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: great he hit some bullets. He hit some that was 58 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 3: like a majestic one. Man, it was like and it 59 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: was so timely. Man, it was a beautiful. It was 60 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: a beautiful thing. 61 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: And I couldn't help I couldn't help my emotion. I 62 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: was like totally. 63 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think everybody in the ballpark did it. 64 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: But again, like I thought, I just thought it was 65 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: so funny because your reaction was like, you knew it 66 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: as soon as the ball left the bat that that 67 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: ball was going to be a missile. Is you know, 68 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: I guess the only question was it was gonna be fair. Now, 69 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: it was obviously wayfair, but but uh just destroyed it. 70 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 3: Yeah when when you know, you know, when it comes 71 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 3: up of his bad man. 72 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 4: I think everybody did that. Larry Anderson even did it 73 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 4: on the radio. He just when he catches it just 74 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 4: a little bit out in front, and he's such an 75 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 4: you mentioned balance, He's such a rhythm balance hitter that 76 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 4: when he is on and squaring it up and seeing 77 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 4: it and feeling good and in a groove, he's incredibly 78 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 4: fun to watch it. And when you take the strength 79 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 4: and he's just incredible. Was strong man, and add that 80 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 4: bat speed. 81 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 5: And you hit a ball on the button like that. 82 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: You know it's gonna make a loud noise and it's 83 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 4: gonna go a long way. 84 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: And you know he he was in such a tough 85 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: funk going into that game, you know, the like I 86 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: think he had gone seventeen straight games without a home 87 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: run or you know, fifteen sixteen, seventeen straight games without 88 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: a home run. He sat in the cage following Saturday 89 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: night's game in Atlanta. He was really frustrated how he 90 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: was hitting. He talked through some things with the hitting coaches, 91 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: worked on some things. Saturday is the last at bat, 92 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: he hits this hard line out to center field, and 93 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: talking to Rob Thompson on Tuesday, he's like, yeah, I 94 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: think that's a good sign. You know, I really like 95 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: that at bat. 96 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: To me, that says something and you. 97 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: Kind of file that away, right, you know, Jim, when 98 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: you're writing a story, you're thinking about stories. 99 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: Of that night. 100 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: You go, okay, let me remember that. You know that 101 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: that line out to center field to end, you know, 102 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: in the ninth inning on on Sunday night, and then boom, 103 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: lead off home run, Like okay. 104 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 4: And I also think that brings in the mental aspect 105 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 4: of the game and the mental aspect of hitting. When 106 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 4: you hit a ball on the button like that square 107 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 4: one up, it feels good and it brings you back 108 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 4: to a good place in your mind. And so often 109 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 4: in this game, you know, the mind can lead the body, 110 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 4: and I think that that has a big part of it. 111 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 5: You know. 112 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 4: It's like you finish with a good swing, you can't 113 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 4: wait to get to the ballpark the next day. It's 114 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 4: like when you're a hack golfer and you have a 115 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 4: good hole on eighteen, you come back. 116 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 5: It's all kind of the same. 117 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 4: It's all kind of the same phenomena in your between 118 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 4: the years. 119 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 3: And there's another piece of that too, because for me 120 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: as a player and as a coach and an ex coach, 121 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: when you try to implement something and you tweak something 122 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 3: and you have almost immediate success, that's important because like 123 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 3: say he was working on X on the balancer, making 124 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: a good choice with his swing, whatever the case may 125 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 3: be for him, to like have that sort of immediately 126 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: work for him and to have it, you know, have 127 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: some positivity out of that, that's huge because then you 128 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 3: can then your mind, you say, you say to yourself, oh, 129 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 3: all that works sort of paying off, and it's paying 130 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 3: off immediately, I'm getting immediate dividends, and then it kind 131 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 3: of then it kind of carries you through. 132 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: Jimmy mentioned golf. Schwarbro also said in terms of like 133 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: state of mind, he played golf on Monday on the 134 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: off day with some of his teammates. He said, I 135 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: did not shoot well, but I had fun. And then 136 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: later he got Tyreek Hill with the fourth overall pick 137 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: in his fantasy football league, so he seemed pretty excited 138 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: about that. 139 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: So so she had. 140 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: Some good off the field stuff due to carry into 141 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: Tuesday before he hit those those three home runs and 142 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: that that dramatic win against against Toronto. 143 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 3: So you talk about again, I'll go back to what 144 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 3: French he said, you know, when he saw that these 145 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 3: guys were coming in and playing off and being relaxed, 146 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: and how how much he felt like that that was 147 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 3: going to be a team that they felt that he 148 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: felt like was confident and comfortable. And I think that's 149 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 3: one of the reasons why Topper allows these guys to 150 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 3: play golf. And you know, there's some there're some managers 151 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: who just basically say, you know what, shut it down. 152 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: You're not doing it, it's taking too much energy, whatever. 153 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: I think. 154 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 3: I think that these guys manage it well enough, and 155 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 3: Topper gives them the leeway to manage it well enough 156 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: so that you know, they they're still having joy and 157 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: being able to do some fun things while they're grinding 158 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: through the season. 159 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 5: It's a good it's a good outlet. 160 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 4: And you know, it's timely because we just talked a 161 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 4: lot about that with John Smoltz on our last episode, 162 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 4: which if you haven't listened to it, I would urge 163 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 4: you too, because I just think the guy is brilliant, 164 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 4: really insightful, and he tells good stories and he very 165 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 4: uh he knows the Phillies very well because he watches them, so, uh, 166 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 4: don't be afraid to cue that one up right, Todd. 167 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, we had We had some fun with him. 168 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: He told some great stories. I still like the story 169 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: about how Philly has tried to lure him to Philadelphia 170 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: as a free agent by giving him some Marion in 171 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: Pine Valley time. 172 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: Why not? Yeah, exactly. You know one more thing about Schwarber. 173 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: Do you think Phillies fans have finally warmed up to 174 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: Kyle Schwarber being the leadoff hitter? Because I mentioned this 175 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: to Rob Thompson on Wednesday after the game. I said, 176 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: you know, we haven't really heard any griping about the 177 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: leadoff hitter in a while. It's been months and months really, 178 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: maybe since opening before Opening Day, I haven't heard anybody 179 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: bring up, you know, should he put turner up there? 180 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: You know, Schwarber's got to hit lower in the lineup. 181 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: Maybe people have finally accepted the fact that he's not 182 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: half bad in that leadoff spot. Tied a major league 183 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: record on Tuesday Wednesday with thirteen leadoff home runs in 184 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: a season, tied Alfonso Story on with the Yankees in 185 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: two thousand and three. 186 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 5: It'll be a topic of conversation. 187 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 4: The next time was fourth straight. It's a convenient rainy 188 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 4: day conversation. But you know he's he's very good in 189 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 4: the lead off. Well, it's unconventional. I will acknowledge that. 190 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 4: But before Kyle Schwartz, Kyle Schwarber arrived, they hadn't been 191 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 4: to the postseason in ten straight years. They targeted him. 192 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 4: Kevin Long, you know, loved him from Washington and they. 193 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 5: Believed he could lead off. 194 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 4: Even when they were targeting him, this just didn't manifest 195 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 4: itself in Philadelphia. And you know, he's been here and 196 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 4: this is his third year and they're headed to the 197 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 4: postseason for a third straight year after missing it ten straight. 198 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 4: So I think it's been a one of the best 199 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 4: signings for franchise history. 200 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: And we will be right back. 201 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 6: The summer gets super busy and getting back on a 202 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 6: good fall workout routine needs to be easy for me 203 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 6: with anytime fitness being available anytime any where. They make 204 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 6: it easy to work on getting stronger and more confident 205 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 6: into my. 206 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 7: Schedulekratz is spot on. 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He's claiming wife by issues, but 226 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: we we will keep soldiering on. 227 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 5: You probably had he probably had a tea time ye. 228 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: The old my Wifi's bed. 229 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: Jim and Todd, I can't finish this episode. 230 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 5: Because he plays more golf than anyone we know. 231 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: And maybe more than John Smoltz, definitely more than May anyway, 232 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: you know what this this is also a perfect time 233 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: to bring up word them's fighting words. 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I got it like a retro vet 243 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: blue nice blue, red, white and blue vet T shirt. 244 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: This week's Quote of the Week. 245 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: I thought this was interesting because I know people have 246 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: been talking about it a lot, really the last week. 247 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: This quote comes from Bryce Harper following Wednesday Night's game. 248 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: He gets hit on the left elbow with a pitch. 249 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: He's got the bad right elbow, he's got a bad wrist, 250 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: sore wrist. He's been bad. He's absolutely banged up. Asked him, 251 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: is there any argument to be made Jim sitting for 252 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: sitting him for a few days. Hey, we got Ruben 253 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: back and that's all right. So we're getting into Bryce Harper. 254 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: Bryce Harper had this quote said, I just don't know 255 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: how good I'll feel if I take one or two days. 256 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I feel like I'll feel 257 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: the same if I do take two days off or 258 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: anything like that. That's a conversation we've had before. But 259 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: I just feel like I'm going to feel the exact 260 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: same if I do take two or three days off 261 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: and I come back. In other words, you know, I'm 262 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: gonna keep playing right now, and I don't think I 263 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: can hurt myself anymore. That was another thing he said 264 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: in terms of his right elbow. On Tuesday night, in 265 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: the ninth inning, he takes a swing and miss, he grabs. 266 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: You know, he winces in pain. Everybody goes, oh my gosh, 267 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: the elbow. 268 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: The elbow. 269 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: His understanding is that he cannot hurt the elbow anymore 270 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: than it already is, So he says, don't worry about it. 271 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: You're going to see me wins in pain again in 272 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: the future when I swing and miss, when I follow 273 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: off a pitch. 274 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 2: It's just the way it is. 275 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: So what do you think about Bryce Harper kind of 276 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: playing through this. Would you just say I don't care 277 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: what you say and rest him or do you keep 278 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: throwing them out there. 279 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 5: You mentioned they've had a lot of conversations about it. 280 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 4: I bet they talk about it every day, and if 281 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 4: they thought it was the right thing to do, I 282 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 4: think they do it. I don't know why they're backing 283 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 4: off it. Maybe they just feel like, you know, sitting 284 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 4: in for ten days and then having to start him 285 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 4: back up again because there is sort of that break 286 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 4: in period and you know, he usually comes off the 287 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 4: aisle with him great game and then sometimes he cools 288 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 4: a little bit. Maybe they just don't want to go 289 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 4: through that that period so close to the finish line here. 290 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 4: But I'm sure he's in on these conversations. I'm sure 291 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 4: they've done a lot of diagnostics on them, and they 292 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 4: don't feel like it can get worse and play through it. 293 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 4: You know, we we only hear the tip of the iceberg. 294 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 4: I don't think rest is the answer, but I'm sure 295 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 4: they've just done a ton of homework on it, and 296 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 4: and there's there's more to it than that leads them 297 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 4: to believe he can play through this. 298 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 5: So if they're good with it, I'm good with it. 299 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: You know. 300 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 5: It's the same thing with Bohm. 301 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 4: I don't know why they haven't dled Boom or iled 302 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 4: Boom because you're at a competitive disadvantage. 303 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 5: You're playing with a short bench every night. 304 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 4: Now, I know rosters has expanded, so it's a little 305 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 4: easier to swallow. But you know, they they spend a 306 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 4: lot of time on this stuff, this this medical stuff 307 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 4: and the sports science, and I think this close to 308 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 4: the finish line, you got to kind of trust him 309 00:14:58,400 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 4: a little bit. 310 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: So Paul Bukhit is there basically runs their their medical 311 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 3: side of things, and he's super thorough. He's got a 312 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: great background. I've known him since I was in Boston 313 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: as a coach. They know what they're doing and just 314 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 3: having seen Bryce around, his spirits are great. I don't 315 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 3: think it's bringing him down at all. I think that 316 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 3: it's one of those situations where he just feels and 317 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: they feel like it's not going to go getting worse 318 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 3: as he continues to play. So if that's the case 319 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: and he's going to continue to play, now there may 320 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 3: be a point if they clean s, if they you know, 321 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 3: if they put themselves in a position to be, you know, 322 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: to have the best record, that maybe they can back 323 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: off for a couple of days. 324 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: But until then, man, he's too competitive. He's gonna want 325 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: to play. 326 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 3: It's these games are too important and he's and he's 327 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 3: too important to them, and he knows it. 328 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 4: And and they're tied again. They're tied again for the 329 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 4: best record, right because you know, we know what Citizens 330 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 4: Bank Park can be like as a home field advantage 331 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 4: Game six and seven notwithstanding. 332 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 5: So you know, yeah, I don't. 333 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 4: Doubt that once they're all signed, sealed and delivered, he 334 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 4: gets a couple of days. But as far as shutting 335 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 4: him down for ten days, it's just if it hasn't 336 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 4: happened already, it ain't happening. 337 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 5: And I'm sure they have a good reason for it. 338 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned the Dodgers. They have the tiebreaker two 339 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: against the Dodgers, So if the season end of today, 340 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: the Phillies would have home fields. So keep that in mind. 341 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: As he kind of followed the standings down the stretch. 342 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: But you know, I'll also say this about Bryce. I 343 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: feel like in the past he is somebody who if 344 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: he feels like he cannot play or is or feels 345 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: like he can really mess himself up. He will, you know, 346 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: kind of pull himself out or wasn't. Was it late 347 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: last season where he he DHD quite a few games 348 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: late in the season rather than play first base because 349 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: his back was bothering him, or maybe it was the 350 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: season before there was something going on where he was 351 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: it might have been, you know, he he just was 352 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: not one hundred percent, so he did not either played 353 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: in the field, or he did not play a few 354 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: games because he was kind of worried about really messing 355 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: himself up. So again, the fact that he says, I 356 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: don't need to take a few days off to me 357 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: says it says it all. I don't think. I don't 358 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: think Bryce is not the type of person that's going 359 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: to throw away the entire season by trying to be 360 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: mister Macho's. 361 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 4: He's probably just gearing up to do like a Superman 362 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 4: act in the postseason, like have a two home run game. 363 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 5: Everybody's like, wow, we hadn't hit a home run. 364 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 4: In weeks because he was at a you know, sore 365 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 4: elbow and a sore wrist, and you know he's Superman tonight. 366 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 2: So who knows one thing one thing. 367 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 6: One thing I've. 368 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: Learned about Bryce Harper is he's pretty much thoughtful about everything, 369 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 3: and he thinks through a lot of things, much more 370 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 3: than any other player I think I've ever seen. 371 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: Maybe Chase Utley he did that too, but. 372 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 3: He did it, I guess more quietly, and so you know, 373 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 3: I trust his decisions. He's been around too long. He's 374 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 3: been around the game too long. He thinks about this 375 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 3: stuff way too much for him to put the team 376 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 3: in jeopardy or himself. 377 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: One hundred percent there, Zach Wheeler starts to Night against 378 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: Edward Cabrera, Aaron Nola, Saturday night against Darren McConn and 379 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: then an interesting little decision the Phillies made yesterday is 380 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: that Seth Johnson, who they just got in the Gregory 381 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: Soto trade, is going to start on Sunday in place 382 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: of Tyler Phillips. Tyler Phillips goes out and gives up 383 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: six runs and two thirds of an inning. I mean, 384 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: you know, his last four I think he's got an 385 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: the array of over seventeen. So they pull him out, 386 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: They option him out, and Seth Johnson gets a start, 387 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: which again is fascinating because they they traded Gregory Soto 388 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: to get this guy and Moysey's Chasse, who's also throwing 389 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: the ball incredibly well in the minor leagues. What do 390 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: we think about Seth Johnson making his debut? That's right, 391 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: I mean it depends how he pitches on but man, 392 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: talk about a trade that could pay immediate evidence who 393 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: at the time. At the time, you're thinking it's more 394 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: of an addition by subtraction trade, right, You're just saying 395 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: that get Sodo out of there. He's not happy, he's 396 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: not throwing, well, get him out boom. Seth Johnson could 397 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: come up and really be a nice little, nice little 398 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: bonus prize. 399 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 4: I'm not going to judge the trade on Sunday. You'd 400 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 4: like to see the pitch well. But you know, more importantly, 401 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 4: they added a couple of good young arms to their 402 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 4: system and Seth Johnson former first round pick, first round 403 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 4: arm he's had. You know, he was slowed by the 404 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 4: COVID season, he was slowed by Tommy john but all 405 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 4: indications are you know, he's starting to put it together 406 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 4: and sometimes it takes guy's time. I mean there are many, 407 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 4: many examples of that, so you know Soto has gotten 408 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 4: it together. A little bit down in Baltimore. He's running 409 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 4: up a bunch of zeros lately. But he didn't want 410 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 4: to be here, and you can't have a guy who 411 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 4: didn't want to be here, wasn't accepting of his role. 412 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 4: And to add two good young arms, I think it 413 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 4: has the potential to be a hell of a trade. 414 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 5: You know how important pitching is. 415 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 4: Anytime you can add to your stocks with good stock 416 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 4: of pitching with good arms, it's a good move. But 417 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 4: you'd love to see the kid pitch well, establish himself, 418 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 4: and pitching depth is so important and so needed in 419 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 4: this franchise. It would be great if you pitch well. 420 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 4: It'd be even better if he comes to camp next 421 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 4: year with a chance to earn a spot on the 422 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 4: big league roster or go to Triple A and be 423 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 4: that sixth guy that you know you're going to rely 424 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 4: on at some point. So really eager to see what 425 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 4: he can do Sunday, and really eager to see what 426 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 4: Zach Wheeler can do tonight because he is in a 427 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 4: he's in a sprint to the cy Young with Chris Saale, 428 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 4: who dialed up another really good one against Colorado the 429 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 4: other night. 430 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: So I typically do not like moving players on your 431 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 3: major league roster to just shift things around. But in 432 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 3: this case, I think it's going to work out very, 433 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 3: very well. It was a little bit of a buy 434 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 3: subtraction for Soto, and again I don't typically when you're 435 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 3: in a hunt, you don't typically want to do that, 436 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 3: But you're right about that, Jim. I don't think he 437 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 3: wanted to be hear didn't fit and it was clear 438 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 3: that that was the case. And if they can get 439 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 3: something out of him that becomes productive, that's pretty awesome. 440 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: It obviously interested to see how he handles things on Sunday. 441 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: But you know, just like any other player, some of. 442 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 3: These guys just need a new place to play. They 443 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 3: need a fresh start. They need somebody who might get 444 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: in there in their head a little bit and give 445 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 3: him a little bit different information that might help them click, 446 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 3: whatever the case may be. 447 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: Hopefully that's what's happening with this young man. 448 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 3: And you know, roll the dice because their fifth spot 449 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 3: right now is kind of ugly. 450 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: No one's really stepped forward. 451 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 3: Alard has pitched well in that in that role, but 452 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 3: I think they want to give this guy a shot 453 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 3: because he's pitched so damn. 454 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, Alan is eligible to be recalled on September tenth. 455 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: So I guess if Seth Johnson's struggles and they feel 456 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: like there's you know, they they have the option to 457 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: bring an alert back. But I guess if Seth takes 458 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: it and shows well, maybe they just keep him, keep 459 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: him in that spot. There's I think the fourth starter 460 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: only has like four more starts to go this season, 461 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 1: and then you know, so you can suck it up. 462 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 5: Well, they're a good really good shape. 463 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 4: You know, you win the first you win two in Toronto, 464 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 4: you won five in a row. Excuse me, you win 465 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 4: the first one in Miami. Now you got Wheeler and 466 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 4: Nola leading into Johnson. Really good shape going into the 467 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 4: rest of this series in Miami, especially with Wheeler and Nola. 468 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 4: I want to ask you, guys, any concern about Ranger 469 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 4: Suarez is significant and noticeable dip in velocity on Thursday 470 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 4: night in Miami. 471 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: That's a great question. I noticed that as well. It 472 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,239 Speaker 1: was down about what a mile and a half two 473 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: miles an hour? Two miles an hour, right, I mean 474 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: so across the board, yeah, across up. So a guy 475 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: coming off a back injury, when you know they say 476 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: it was a lower back injury, non serious back injury, 477 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: and three starts in he's you know, he struggled in 478 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: his last start. The Velos down. You know, Rob Thompson 479 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: didn't indicate it. He was frustrated or concerned about it 480 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: last night. But that's something you're absolutely gonna watch down 481 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: the stretch. Is you need him healthier. I mean, we're ruben, 482 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: What did you think? I mean, I know he was 483 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: throwing the ball well five scoreless innings, so you can 484 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: obviously make that that that's an easy argument to make. Yeah, 485 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: the Velo's down. He didn't have his sinker going, but man, 486 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: he located the off speed pitches were working, and he's 487 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: not really velo guy. No rangers said that in the 488 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: past anytime his Villos, and I was like, listen, I 489 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: never have a good fastball. I haven't had a good 490 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: fastball a day in my life. But I don't really 491 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: need it. But down two from what his usual fastball 492 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: is makes makes me wonder. 493 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was concerned when it was coming out of 494 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 3: his hand in the first inning. There's no question about it. 495 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 3: Man to Tom and I were looking at each other 496 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 3: in the booth, going, well, what's going on here. It 497 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 3: made me think of the Sentae Padia when he used 498 00:23:58,920 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 3: to start games. 499 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 2: He was on like, you know, eighty nine. 500 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 3: Miles an hour, and I had it called down, like 501 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 3: what the hell is going on? 502 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 2: Like cut it loose, pal, you hurt? What's going on anyway? 503 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 3: And then he started throwing ninety five And it's a 504 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 3: weird cat anyway. But that said, what it did concern 505 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 3: me early. It does still concern me some. But the 506 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 3: fact that I saw some elevation in that velocity as 507 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 3: the game went on, that's a positive sign. So it 508 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 3: went sort of like from an eighty eight or eighty 509 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 3: nine mile on hour fastball to somewhere around ninety ninety 510 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 3: one on the average later on in the game, and 511 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 3: he sort of maintained that at least through what eighty 512 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 3: some pitches. Yeah, is it a concern, Yeah, of course, 513 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 3: because he's had some issues. He I don't think he's hurt. 514 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 3: But again, I think part of it is a product 515 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 3: of the guy just not having been on the mound. 516 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 3: I mean, the guy wasn't didn't throw any rehab games. 517 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 2: It's different. He's his You still have to get your 518 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 2: sea legs under that. And I know it's a third 519 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 2: time he's throwing. 520 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 3: But when you have that that long of a break 521 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 3: and you don't have an actual rehab start. I know 522 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 3: they did simulated games and all that stuff, it's not 523 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 3: really the same. And I still I still think he's 524 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 3: working on getting his legs underneath him and his body 525 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 3: back together to the point where. 526 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 2: He's one hundred percent on the nose. 527 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: Now you know he can pitch it ninety five percent obviously, 528 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 3: especially against a team like the Miami Marlins because. 529 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 2: It's not a great team. But he did carve up 530 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: his own it was that was that was a positive. 531 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,959 Speaker 3: He threw strikes, didn't look like he was laboring, and uh, 532 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 3: and that that's. 533 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: All a good sign. But you know, you got to 534 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 2: think about it. 535 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 4: So you know what I loved is I did love 536 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 4: the breaking ball was down, down, down. 537 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 5: I loved that it had really good shape. 538 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 4: I mean it wasn't you know, it didn't have the 539 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 4: velocity we've seen it, but it was down. 540 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 5: It had good shape and it was in a good spot. 541 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 5: So I like that. 542 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 4: Excuse me, I want to Rubin put your GM hat 543 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 4: on for me, and you face these decisions throughout your 544 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 4: whole career. And Todd and I covered them. Rangers got 545 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 4: one more year of arbitration be a free agent after 546 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 4: twenty five. Typically with a pitcher like that, a front 547 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 4: office would spend the off season and I'm sure they've 548 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 4: already done it thinking about do they want to engage 549 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 4: for a long term. 550 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 5: Deal and they may have already who knows, But. 551 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 4: Is that something you know you would do this winter 552 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 4: or do you do you want to see more from him, 553 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 4: especially after the bump in the road mid season this 554 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 4: year with the injury or whatnot. 555 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 3: So I think you know, as a GM, you have 556 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 3: to go back to experience, right and you have to 557 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 3: think about what things, what has happened in the past, 558 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 3: certain scenarios, and certain things about the game that are 559 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 3: sort of absolute. I get really concerned about backs. 560 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: They're very tricky. It's a really tricky endeavor. 561 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 3: I mean, Cole Hamil's happened to manage his back issues. 562 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 2: And did a really good job of it. 563 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 3: It was one of the reasons why we were okay 564 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 3: with him going long term because he worked very hard 565 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 3: at putting himself into a position and to be fine 566 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 3: with his back. 567 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 2: He did a lot of core work, He did a 568 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: lot of. 569 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 3: Work, you know, whatever is necessary for him to have 570 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 3: success now, Ranger, because he's had multiple back issues. 571 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: I got to be careful with that. And I think 572 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 2: I'm gonna probably let this play out through the end 573 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 2: of the through the end. 574 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 3: Of his tenure here with the Phillies, to make sure 575 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 3: that this guy is. 576 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 2: Is okay with his back. And I love the guy. 577 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 3: I would, you know, mind that I that I would 578 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 3: that I would uh, you know, go ahead in and 579 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 3: and do the long term with him just because of 580 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 3: who he is. 581 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 2: But my issue you with you know. 582 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 3: When you got a BA back issue with a picture 583 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 3: or with any player, I think you got to be cautious. 584 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 5: I'm right on board with you. Yeah, I want to 585 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 5: see more. 586 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 4: I want to exercise some caution here. I want to 587 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 4: see him getting great physical shape. I just want to 588 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 4: see what twenty twenty five looks like. And I would 589 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 4: love to extend the relationship and have him be a 590 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 4: Philly for a long time. I think he's a great 591 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 4: picture and a great guy and a great teammate. 592 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 5: I just want to see a little bit more. And 593 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 5: I think that's. 594 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 4: Quite uh you know, level headed, and probably something they're 595 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 4: discussing up on the executive level, how do you kind 596 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 4: of frame it up? 597 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: Todd, Well, yeah, I think for me, like it's a 598 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: it's a challenge for Ranger next season. You know, can 599 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: you actually go from point A to point B healthy 600 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: an entire entire year. It's not just the back. He's 601 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: had some other health issues over time. I know that 602 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: one spring he had COVID and that knocked him out, 603 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: but but he had He's had elbow and and so 604 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: I think like, if you would sign him now or 605 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: in the off season, and you know, something happens down 606 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: the road, he say, Man, this guy has been hurt 607 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: all the time for whatever reason, and man, you sign 608 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: him to a long term extension. This guy has never 609 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: been able to stay healthy. So yeah, I would absolutely 610 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: want to see him get through an entire season healthy, 611 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: be productive, and then do it. I don't think there's 612 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: any rush. And they have Wheeler locked up, they have 613 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: Nola locked up, they have Christopher Sanchez locked up, They 614 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: have Andrew Painter coming down the pike, so they have 615 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 1: they have some depth there, they have some options coming. 616 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: So I don't think it's anything urgent. Where like, man, 617 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: if you lose Ranger Suarez, you guys are totally screwed 618 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: going forward. So I think they can afford some patience. 619 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: They can afford some patience with him. I mean, you know, 620 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: hopefully he dials it in and he gets his money 621 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: and he stays because he's fun and watch like he said. 622 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, so he comes to camp next year totally motivated 623 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,719 Speaker 4: and goes out and has a sig On type season. 624 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 5: But that's that's win, win, win win forever. Yeah, who cares? 625 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. 626 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: John Middleton's shown that if you know, he'll reward guys 627 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: with good seasons. So you know, I think you would 628 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: take that that that that that universe where Ranger goes 629 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: out and he goes all right, guys, you didn't want 630 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: to lock me up the last off season. I'm going 631 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: to go out and win twenty Yeah in the area 632 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: you're right above two. 633 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 5: Fascinating little off season issue, I think. 634 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 3: And I used to think of that whole arbitration process, 635 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 3: which is sort of a necessary evil, like if a 636 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 3: guy got awarded, you know whatever, whether we lost or 637 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 3: won or whatever the case may be. I mean, I 638 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 3: believe in performance and to be paid for performance, and 639 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 3: if you perform, then you get paid. And that's the 640 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 3: way it should be, and so if the man does perform, 641 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 3: then he should be paid handsomely. 642 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: It's as simple as that. 643 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 4: Well, Ruben, with your crappy internet today, you're not getting 644 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 4: paid because your performance has been shaky. 645 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: No doubt about it. I sucked, my bad. This is 646 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 2: a billion dollar hotel and I can't get Wi Fi. 647 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. 648 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that could be a problem for us. 649 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: All right, guys, Well we will be back on Monday 650 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: to talk more phillies. So, uh, we had good time, 651 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: even though Ruben crapped out on us a couple of times. 652 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: It happens. 653 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: This is this is an internet based show, so there's 654 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: I mean, if I could behind the scenes, right, We've 655 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: had some we've had some scary moments on here when 656 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: we've had some guests. I'm literally dripping bullets. Cole Hamil's 657 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: when he was on, he was cutting in and out, 658 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: and I mean the sweat coming out of my body 659 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: was just I was like, oh my god, we're gonna 660 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: lose this whole thing. 661 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 2: So, uh, you know, you don't have to sweat for me, Todd, 662 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 2: don't worry about. 663 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: That, all right, guys, Uh, I will say, because we 664 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: don't know if Ruben can say, smell you later, Smell 665 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: you lator boys. 666 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 9: This is the Phillies Show. 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