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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Boys. I found a fun fact here
Speaker 1: that I wanted to throw out there. The super Bowl
Speaker 1: is gonna feature Andy rd Nick Sirehanni. This is the
Speaker 1: fifth time we've had a rematch between a team that
Speaker 1: has been to a super Bowl and played that same
Speaker 1: team in the super Bowl and then lost. In all
Speaker 1: four of the previous matches, the coach that lost the
Speaker 1: first time lost the second time. Scott Bagman, does that
Speaker 1: influence any of your concepts and thoughts and feelings about
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? Because when I heard that, I was
Speaker 1: already on the chief side of this, and that kind
Speaker 1: of really drove me to the other side.
Speaker 2: No, not even a little. Didn't drive me anywhere at
Speaker 2: all whatsoever. I'm my pick has been the same since
Speaker 2: the super Bowl has been announced. I was dead for
Speaker 2: a week, so I haven't been influenced by anything that's
Speaker 2: happened this week. So yeah, no, that that stat is
Speaker 2: eye rolling. I feel like, how many times has the
Speaker 2: rematch even happened?
Speaker 1: Did you say this will be the fifth time?
Speaker 3: So I thought we were gonna get five. I thought
Speaker 3: we were going to guess the other matchups, because wouldn't
Speaker 3: would one of them been?
Speaker 1: Wasn't it that one of them was? Marv Levy back
Speaker 1: in the day with the Bills and the Cowboys. Okay,
Speaker 1: that was back to back losses there. I have to
Speaker 1: go back and check and see what some of the
Speaker 1: other ones were. But uh, it is interesting though, because
Speaker 1: I think there's something about the confidence of winning and
Speaker 1: the confidence of beating a team and then when you
Speaker 1: lose to a team and then then having to overcome that.
Speaker 1: I think that's real. I think that's something that I've
Speaker 1: experienced just you know, in my life playing games and
Speaker 1: and he as a coach in youth sports too. Some
Speaker 1: teams just have that it factor and they just can't
Speaker 1: be beat and they and some teams, you know, they
Speaker 1: have that that loser not that loser mentality, but like
Speaker 1: that thing where it's like, oh, this is the one
Speaker 1: team that really gets well, but here's well his Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: Red and Shanahan are are one of those right.
Speaker 1: Uh yes, yes.
Speaker 2: Nolan Landry.
Speaker 1: Correct that right, Nolan Landry, Yeah, Chuck nol Landry b
Speaker 1: beat Landry twice. Correct. So here's the here's the question
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, Welsh, because I think the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles are, on paper, the more talented roster. I
Speaker 1: think most people would agree with that. Like you're looking
Speaker 1: just pure talent on the roster. I think top to bottom,
Speaker 1: it's a really exciting young Eagles defense and very you
Speaker 1: know exp more. You know, you got Saquon Barkley, got
Speaker 1: the big playmakers AJ Brown, like like those guys don't
Speaker 1: really exist on the Chiefs, But what does exist on
Speaker 1: the chief still is Patrick Mahomes and Patrick Mahomes you
Speaker 1: know in these Super Bowls, not only does he run,
Speaker 1: he throws, he's He's had a couple of picks in
Speaker 1: some of the Super Bowls too, which has got of
Speaker 1: in trouble sometimes. But when he's got the ball in
Speaker 1: the last two minutes of the game, if you don't
Speaker 1: keep the ball out of his hands in that period,
Speaker 1: it just feels like he's always gonna make that drive
Speaker 1: and finish it off at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: So what do you make of this? Again, it's another
Speaker 1: rematch match up here, but I know it's a different
Speaker 1: one because it's a different Eagles defense. The last time
Speaker 1: it was his Eagles defense, it was really you know,
Speaker 1: ferocious pass rush. This one is really good now in
Speaker 1: the secondary, they've really fixed those issues. But the big
Speaker 1: difference obviously Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 3: But by the way, how you're talking about Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 3: It was like he's faster than a locomotive can. He
Speaker 3: can scale tall buildings in a single bound, like he's
Speaker 3: Superman in.
Speaker 2: There a flag whenever he wons he can't.
Speaker 1: Well, here's the stats. Four games one oh seven for
Speaker 1: one sixty four sixty completion percentage, over a thousand yards
Speaker 1: passing in the four Super Bowl games, one hundred and
Speaker 1: seventywo rushing yards, eight touchdowns, five picks.
Speaker 3: So, like going back to the the you know, the
Speaker 3: like the thirty plus year stat Like it's kind of
Speaker 3: irolly to me too that it's like, Okay, that's great
Speaker 3: that that's happened in the past, But at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, it still comes back to the context
Speaker 3: of both of these teams. And I would agree that
Speaker 3: like Eagles kind of top to bottom, bringing in Saquam
Speaker 3: Barkley completely change what they were able to do on
Speaker 3: the ground. It's taken away some of the inefficiencies that
Speaker 3: would happen in that past game, which is still kind
Speaker 3: of there. But they're finding their stride again. Their defense
Speaker 3: is great, They've got all the pieces, but like so
Speaker 3: do the Chiefs and at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: not looking at like a thirty year kind of marker
Speaker 3: to dictate, like, well, the guys always lose to each other,
Speaker 3: and let's go back and talk about Marv Levy. It's like, well,
Speaker 3: I can also tell you that the Chiefs the betting
Speaker 3: on the Chiefs, and that's a year ago and two
Speaker 3: years ago. Like this same team. Construction coaching, for the
Speaker 3: most part is there. You turn out a couple pieces
Speaker 3: of a different talent. I think this can be a
Speaker 3: great game, but I have a hard time betting against
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes. They were one of the best teams in
Speaker 3: the NFL this year. He is like Superman faster, not
Speaker 3: maybe faster than a locomotive, but you know, he can
Speaker 3: leap tall buildings in a single bound, and he involves
Speaker 3: eight to nine different pass catchers. He's the most clutch player.
Speaker 3: And I would say that even though their run game
Speaker 3: has been a little you know, Kareem Hunt has kind
Speaker 3: of stepped up in short yarded stuff. Pacheco just apparently
Speaker 3: is a first quarter running back and then we just
Speaker 3: don't see him anymore. That Like, I still think that
Speaker 3: they're pretty well balanced, but they've got the advantage I
Speaker 3: think of the passing game, what Patrick Mahomes can do. Internally,
Speaker 3: we know that there's still like injury stuff with Jalen Hurts,
Speaker 3: so I know I don't I can't be influenced by
Speaker 3: weird Betty type of trends in this scenario where I'm
Speaker 3: going to just look at the game and just go,
Speaker 3: I don't know how I bet against Patrick Mahomes and
Speaker 3: it's a close the spread is close for a specific reason,
Speaker 3: i probably would lean on the Chiefs here, but I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna be surprised if the Eagles, because you're clearly
Speaker 3: going on the side.
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's most of us people
Speaker 1: are on the chief side. Like if you told me
Speaker 1: the Eagles win, I'm not shocked at all. In fact,
Speaker 1: the value to me in this game is probably betting
Speaker 1: the Eagles in a parlay with Saquon Barkley to win
Speaker 1: the MVP, not Hurts. Now, typically the quarterbacks win it,
Speaker 1: but I think in this scenario, the way the Eagles
Speaker 1: are built bogs. If you like the Eagles, it's the
Speaker 1: Barkley narrative you're driving here, because it feels like that's
Speaker 1: been the narrative this whole season for this team, and
Speaker 1: if he does this and if he actually finishes his
Speaker 1: story here a la Cody Rhodes ironically in Philadelphia last year, maybe,
Speaker 1: just maybe, I think they are building a Saquon Barkley statue.
Speaker 1: And I'm not being hyperbolic. This is Philadelphia. If he
Speaker 1: wins them, if he does this two thousand yard season,
Speaker 1: wins them, a super Bowl comes from the Alliance. This
Speaker 1: is like all time Philadelphia mess right here. This is
Speaker 1: where gonna be.
Speaker 2: If anybody wants a statue right now after seeing that
Speaker 2: Dwayne Wade debacle, well hopefully.
Speaker 1: They don't get that same guy, because the Dwayne Wade
Speaker 1: statue is terrifying nightmare fuel.
Speaker 2: It is, yeah, it is. And listen, I'm taking the
Speaker 2: Eagles in this game. I I understand the historic and
Speaker 2: the confidence that you know, the Chiefs have here going
Speaker 2: into this game and and all that, but I can't
Speaker 2: get over Saquon. The offensive line and really the defensive
Speaker 2: line for the Eagles has been unbelievable in this playoff.
Speaker 2: I mean they made Hayden Taniels uh and that Washington
Speaker 2: on line.
Speaker 1: Look, it was a key injury on that old line
Speaker 1: though too in all.
Speaker 2: Fairness, yeahs cosme was hurt.
Speaker 3: You guys question if I were to if you were
Speaker 3: to take one thing away, because like the Chiefs, the
Speaker 3: Chiefs are well balanced, Like it's a solid defense. We'll
Speaker 3: give the edge to the Eagles, or we'll give the
Speaker 3: edge of the Eagles will give the edge. Obviously it's
Speaker 3: a very large edge on the running game to the
Speaker 3: Eagles passing game. We're gonna give to the Chiefs here.
Speaker 3: But if I were to tell you on the Eagles side,
Speaker 3: you either if you take away the big Saquon Barkley
Speaker 3: game or you take away the passing game. What's the
Speaker 3: thing that destroys the Eagles from winning this game? So
Speaker 3: I'm essentially saying, if Barkley is like one hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty plus on the ground twenty five carries, does he
Speaker 3: win the game? And can they win the game if
Speaker 3: there is no pass game, which we have seen from
Speaker 3: the Eagles in multiple spots, like do they have to
Speaker 3: be well balanced or does Barkley carry it all?
Speaker 1: I think it's I don't think it's I think they
Speaker 1: need that big giant Saquon moment. And it happened on
Speaker 1: the first play that they touched the football in the
Speaker 1: last game, and I think it's the thing that just
Speaker 1: kind of takes the air out of the other team,
Speaker 1: you know, when you have that big sake. Now, the
Speaker 1: one thing I will say about the Chiefs, they're much
Speaker 1: more disciplined than other teams. They were used to these
Speaker 1: big moments and these things happening to them. They were
Speaker 1: down in that game against San Francisco. See, the Chiefs
Speaker 1: aren't really I would say great anywhere except a quarterback.
Speaker 1: But they're so great at execution and Nola does such
Speaker 1: a good job I feel like in these bigger spots
Speaker 1: of always coming up with the right game plan, the
Speaker 1: right calls at the right time. Boggs, I don't know
Speaker 1: where you stay with that question, but that's my answer
Speaker 1: is how do you beat the Eagles is don't let
Speaker 1: Saquon have that fifty yard like the win?
Speaker 3: Can they win it without a pass game? And can
Speaker 3: they win it if Barkley is shut down? That's kind
Speaker 3: of I think what I was trying.
Speaker 2: They can And that's the which one can win it
Speaker 2: with that?
Speaker 3: Which one is more ripal?
Speaker 2: I think you you can't have get shut down in
Speaker 2: this game.
Speaker 1: And win it.
Speaker 3: Because this was a great rush defense at one point
Speaker 3: in the year. That has kind of dissipated in the
Speaker 3: last like six weeks.
Speaker 2: But no, I still think they're very good. I just
Speaker 2: think that that offensive line for the Eagles, especially in
Speaker 2: this run, has been overwhelming, even with injuries. Right, they
Speaker 2: move Landon Dickerson to center for that NFC title game,
Speaker 2: no drop off, no issue at all. Still awesome, still
Speaker 2: blocking great, and even when they didn't hit their blocks,
Speaker 2: take one made it happen anyway. So that's why I'm
Speaker 2: on the Eagles in this game, and that's why the
Speaker 2: coaching question didn't really matter to me. You know, the
Speaker 2: talent is on the field, and the talent is on
Speaker 2: the line on both sides.
Speaker 1: That's what Mark Levi said too that game against the
Speaker 1: Giants that he lost. In the game against the Washington
Speaker 1: football team.
Speaker 2: You remember that quote, the talent is on the field.
Speaker 2: Is that what he said? Well, I don't, look, I
Speaker 2: don't remember that that far back.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying one thing is historian. I've lived
Speaker 1: through a lot of very talented football teams that got
Speaker 1: the Super Bowls, and the Buffalo Bills fans will tell
Speaker 1: you you can argue they had certainly more talent inless
Speaker 1: first too.
Speaker 2: Look it's a point now allis dude, I'm not much
Speaker 2: and the Chiefs have all of the you know, they
Speaker 2: have the momentum they have.
Speaker 1: I feel like they're just playing their best football now.
Speaker 1: Like they flipped they did that thing that's so annoying
Speaker 1: that everybody hates, which is yeah, yeah, regular season whatever,
Speaker 1: and then oh, here we go, it's December. Boom, we
Speaker 1: flipped the switch and then here we go.
Speaker 2: The Patriots lost super Bowls. Remember I mean, but the.
Speaker 1: Patriots rarely also had talented football team. They were the
Speaker 1: other team that just executed and had the better quarterback
Speaker 1: and coach. Quarterback execution typically is where I want to invest.
Speaker 1: Let's do a scoring prediction and then have some fun
Speaker 1: because Welsh has some wacky bets for us in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So we didn't do all the serious stuff
Speaker 1: at betting pros. But this is out of bounds, so
Speaker 1: we're gonna get stupid because that's what we do here.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go twenty six twenty four Chiefs. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be twenty four to twenty fourth quarter, a couple of
Speaker 1: minutes left, and you're gonna have Patrick Mahomes drive get
Speaker 1: the super Bowl winning touchdown, because that's what Patrick Mahomes does.
Speaker 1: Twenty six, twenty four Bogman, what do you have for
Speaker 1: a score?
Speaker 2: Twenty seven twenty three Eagles.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're all pretty tight here and close, which again,
Speaker 1: this is what it feels like.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think it's a walk on either side.
Speaker 1: No, I don't either. There hasn't been a Chiefs walk
Speaker 1: game all year, hasn't there? Really?
Speaker 3: What were your two bets? Why were your bets? What
Speaker 3: were your scores? It was twenty seventy six six twenty
Speaker 3: four dollar, you're gonna I'm gonna go one's.
Speaker 1: I think poppin'deeger. That's what the That's what the yodeler
Speaker 1: on the Price is Right used to tell you.
Speaker 3: This feels like it would be a lower scoring end.
Speaker 3: A lot of people are on that lower step. But
Speaker 3: it isn't like forty eight and a half. It's like
Speaker 3: around forty eight forty nine. So I wouldn't be shocked
Speaker 3: if this game did go under both strong defenses. The
Speaker 3: only thing that keeps me like not want to like
Speaker 3: hammer an under is just if Patrick Mahomes is throwing
Speaker 3: the ball and also the other caveat is like what
Speaker 3: happens with the Eagles. This is why, without giving you
Speaker 3: an actual score, I wouldn't be shocked getting away from
Speaker 3: the eight under if it was like a thirty to
Speaker 3: twenty three, if there was a bigger difference, because if
Speaker 3: the Eagles are playing from behind at all, they're going
Speaker 3: to have to rely on that pass game, and that
Speaker 3: is the I think the biggest glaring thing that is
Speaker 3: staring either one of these teams in the face is
Speaker 3: them having to throw the ball.
Speaker 2: Thirty to twenty three could still be the last.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly tied game. Yeah, I guess it would be
Speaker 3: more like twenty nine to twenty three, but no.
Speaker 1: But it's also the feeling of games, like you said,
Speaker 1: to some feel like one team is dominating necessarily, but
Speaker 1: the score is actually you're still in that one score range.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to some fun bets here, because
Speaker 1: Welsh has done some homework and we're gonna have some
Speaker 1: fun here with some of these. So Wels, you can
Speaker 1: bet on literally everything that has anything to do with
Speaker 1: surrounding the Super Bowl this time of year. So let's
Speaker 1: see what you got here. Let's see what you dug.
Speaker 3: Out Ohlso the world is letting us bet on anything.
Speaker 3: Just want to point out who the hell is jay Uso?
Speaker 3: What's a jay Uso? You were just we could bet
Speaker 3: on the royal rumble. He just dropped a royal rumble
Speaker 3: in here. He not even what a jush.
Speaker 1: Jay Uso is one of the Ussos, the twins, cousins
Speaker 1: of Roman reigns, part of the Sons of Rakishi, which
Speaker 1: will make sense to you two. Yes, the butt, the
Speaker 1: butt quite as large the butt guy, Yes, with the butt.
Speaker 3: The butt got got I think they say right?
Speaker 1: Yacht. Yes, he had a lot of gyacht. Apparently my
Speaker 1: daughters will be so embarrassed that I said the word
Speaker 1: giacht on air. So I'm gonna say it one more time. Kiacht.
Speaker 3: There you go today, I wiggle it, okay. So I
Speaker 3: just wanted to get that you can literally bet on anything.
Speaker 3: You can bet maybe on gods, I don't know. But
Speaker 3: you were able to bet on the royal rumble and
Speaker 3: jay us So. And now this.
Speaker 1: Could have made a lot of money if you had
Speaker 1: jay Uso. He was not the favorite. I was looking
Speaker 1: to see him punk and did not go.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you guys did a whole breakdown of it
Speaker 3: on bett Brush. You guys can check it out. But
Speaker 3: we got the silly bets. The silly bets are out there,
Speaker 3: there's gonna be probably books are going to put some
Speaker 3: insane ones. These are a few of the more popular ones.
Speaker 3: Do you guys, bug You probably don't. This is not
Speaker 3: your wheelhouse, Joe, Are you a like gatorade bath type
Speaker 3: of guy? Like what color used to be?
Speaker 1: I used to be, but then they started like taking
Speaker 1: it away? Now if you've seen that.
Speaker 3: Well they didn't show it last year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't think the gatorade aim. A couple years
Speaker 1: ago there was a big controversy about it because somebody
Speaker 1: within the team things knew what color it was going
Speaker 1: to be and it was a whole, big fiasco. So
Speaker 1: it's harder to find the gatorade bet.
Speaker 4: So I've had to pivot to other stupid bet on
Speaker 4: the Royal Rumble, but not on Yeah, hey man, I
Speaker 4: got Charlotte Flair right and now I'm eight of the
Speaker 4: last twelve winners of the Royal Rumble, So a percentage
Speaker 4: is still pretty good.
Speaker 1: Nobody's all ju So.
Speaker 3: Come could you bet that on?
Speaker 1: Like the big books, you can bet it in the
Speaker 1: international books A three about scripted Is it real slunky
Speaker 1: night fighting out there in the in the in the
Speaker 1: uncharted waters. That's what you can do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we're gonna we're gonna be in Vegas in
Speaker 3: one week and we're gonna probably be flipping coins. And
Speaker 3: I was thinking we do a little paper football.
Speaker 1: Tournament day after the Super Bowl. We all fly out.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it is going to be crazy, guys.
Speaker 3: But look out for some crazy betting opportunities too, if
Speaker 3: we can do some fantasy pros, little individual contests like
Speaker 3: Joe and I did before. But back to the crazy
Speaker 3: bets you can do in the Super Bowl. So let
Speaker 3: me present a few to you, and then you guys
Speaker 3: can take your shot here. How much do you hate it?
Speaker 3: Would you bet it? Let's start with it. This is
Speaker 3: maybe one of my favorite ones. Will a player or
Speaker 3: coach cry during the national anthem? Your odds minus four
Speaker 3: thirty for yes, plus two eighty five for no. Famously,
Speaker 3: Sirianni just water works. Look like Wilmer Flores just crying
Speaker 3: his face off in front of everybody.
Speaker 1: So dude, I love this one. I'm taking the note
Speaker 1: with the plus two eighty five really are you taking Well,
Speaker 1: he's not, Sirius not gonna cry twice? And Andy Reid's like,
Speaker 1: this is like just another two weeks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if somebody wants to be the center of
Speaker 2: attention every single year, so yes, someone, that's.
Speaker 1: Why he's coach. There's only two coaches. It's it's head, it's.
Speaker 2: It's a coach or player. Is it not just a coach?
Speaker 3: A coach or player, So it'll be it'll be cameras.
Speaker 1: Player is gonna cry.
Speaker 2: Remember when no chan moreno leaked Niagara falls out of
Speaker 2: his face during the super and I thought it was
Speaker 2: just a coach.
Speaker 3: Said he ended the droughts one hundred percent. So like,
Speaker 3: all right, so you guys are you're gonna pay the
Speaker 3: minus four thirty four some tiers.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a bad bet. It's not a bet
Speaker 2: that I would mess with because of the odds.
Speaker 1: But yes, I think it's a pretty good bet. I
Speaker 1: think that's a lock. If you got the capitol. That's
Speaker 1: just so hard, yeah, hard, all right.
Speaker 3: Also, I just noticed that they said you can I
Speaker 3: don't know who John Batisti is. Is that is that
Speaker 3: Batista's brother? Speaking of wrestling, he is he doing the anthem,
Speaker 3: John Patista the the over. Do you know who that is?
Speaker 1: Batista? He is, Yes, he is the US band leader
Speaker 1: from U Stephen.
Speaker 3: Colbert Show, and he's doing the anthem.
Speaker 1: Very talented musician. I guess so well over.
Speaker 3: Uh one twenty point five on the anthem is minus
Speaker 3: one twenty two under one twenty point five, so that's
Speaker 3: essentially two minutes is plus money. And you could also
Speaker 3: bet if he will use a piano minus six fifty yes,
Speaker 3: plus four to twenty smoke him if you got him. No, So, uh,
Speaker 3: what do you go over under on national anthem?
Speaker 1: Well, he's a piano player by trade, so this is
Speaker 1: too much juice. I'm letting this one go.
Speaker 3: You're not gonna even play it.
Speaker 1: I mean again, that doesn't a lot. This is going
Speaker 1: from four to fifty seven.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is this guy's mo moment. So I
Speaker 2: always go over.
Speaker 3: I'm on, I think you guys, I'm going to go
Speaker 3: under if if there's minus six fifty on the piano,
Speaker 3: pianos involved, the piano is going to keep the pace.
Speaker 3: It's going to keep the pace. Unlike the like Aguilera,
Speaker 3: like drag it on.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 2: No one's ever taken their hands off the peene.
Speaker 3: No, it's going to keep pace. I am doing the
Speaker 3: plus money under it's plus one hundred for one twenty
Speaker 3: point five.
Speaker 1: I think I'd like to hear continue at the end. Yes,
Speaker 1: it was such a lovely rendie.
Speaker 3: Like that, like that whoa, I get wow.
Speaker 1: You know I would actually prefer to see that girl
Speaker 1: who did at the NLI All Star Game a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago come back.
Speaker 3: Yes, I was kind of like her right there.
Speaker 1: I think it was still better. Yeah, I think you
Speaker 1: are actually.
Speaker 3: Bad all right? Next well, no, I'm going to save
Speaker 3: that one. That's the greatest one. Kendrick Lamar halftime show guests,
Speaker 3: So here you go.
Speaker 2: You can some not drinks.
Speaker 3: They should have that be like plus fifteen thousand should
Speaker 3: be on there. That's a good call, by the way,
Speaker 3: could you the entire industry is just bopping and they're
Speaker 3: like that song and the words are done this song
Speaker 3: and everyone on National TV is like wow, wow, comes
Speaker 3: up right, and I know, like Taylor Swift, like boy's rough.
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Speaker 3: one twenty five for Metro Booming, one sixty four for
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Speaker 3: Do you know any of those artists?
Speaker 2: I'm not a single one. I was just thinking of
Speaker 2: how old I am when you're going through that list.
Speaker 3: You don't know baby Keems, I don't. You ain't no,
Speaker 3: baby keem No.
Speaker 2: I thought that was something on a man.
Speaker 3: All right, So what, Yeah, you gotta pick one. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go with Metro Boom.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I'll go with metro Boomer.
Speaker 3: Too Boomer, Yeah, Metro you're metro Boomer.
Speaker 1: I already I can't bet Sizza, who I already know
Speaker 1: is going to be on there. Now they've confirmed that's
Speaker 1: don't run, it's a bad thing. Yeah. Uh so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with Future Future.
Speaker 3: All right, we get plus one twenty five Metro Future
Speaker 3: Both there those are.
Speaker 1: I think we've got time for one more.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, hold on, I'll blow through a couple
Speaker 3: of these because I got I'm saving the absolute best
Speaker 3: for last.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: This is a fantastic one. Will there be a power outage?
Speaker 3: There are no odds, but this same prop was plus
Speaker 3: it's in plus sixteen hundred. This was in previous years, yes,
Speaker 3: minus fifteen thousand for no. If you could bet it
Speaker 3: would you got to drop plus sixteen hundred, like sixteen
Speaker 3: to one, you drop a couple of bucks on there
Speaker 3: as a power outage, right.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Are the Ravens going to be losing
Speaker 2: at halftime?
Speaker 1: Part half?
Speaker 3: That's not your job. Props Any quarterback to record a
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Speaker 2: No, I'll go with yes on this one. I mean
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Speaker 3: partly can? I'm I think that was one. A non
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Speaker 1: Now, gentlemen, I was looking through some of the rankings
Speaker 1: and I want to talk about some Here. You got
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and some running backs. I want to shoot
Speaker 1: through real quick right now. The consensus. You go see
Speaker 1: them in Fantasybros dot Com on the ranks there right
Speaker 1: on the front page there the draft ranks for twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five. Earady up, because we're very you know, ready
Speaker 1: to go rock and rolling. We turned the page in
Speaker 1: the season the minute after it ends. Josh Allen at
Speaker 1: the top and Lamar Jane Daniels at three, not surprising.
Speaker 1: Jalen hurts it four, also not surprising, Burrow at five,
Speaker 1: okay now, Patrick Mahomes at six. I'm already kind of like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, I get it, but you know, it's
Speaker 1: last couple of years have been a little rocky there
Speaker 1: in terms of fantasy productivity. Baker Mayfield at seven, Goff
Speaker 1: at eight, Love at nine, Kyler Murray attempt, Justin Herbert eleven,
Speaker 1: and Brock Purdy Welsh's favorite football player on the planet
Speaker 1: at twelve. What the hell does Lamar Jackson have to do?
Speaker 1: Welsh to get to the number one spot? That's my
Speaker 1: question is like, come on, I mean enough.
Speaker 2: Already wait for me to rank.
Speaker 1: I mean that, to me, this is so automatic Bogs.
Speaker 1: And I know I asked, I know you just chimed in,
Speaker 1: so I kind of want to ask you now because
Speaker 1: you jimed in about it. The season that he just
Speaker 1: came off of was unreal. And I'm not taking anything
Speaker 1: away from Josh Allen. Josh Allen is tremendous, but the
Speaker 1: number one quarterback wasn't Josh Allen. It was Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: Over four thousand passing yards, forty one touchdowns, four interceptions,
Speaker 1: and he also had nine hundred rushing yards.
Speaker 2: Three more points per game, which is really where it's happened.
Speaker 2: So why isn't he one more points per game?
Speaker 1: What the happened here? Boy?
Speaker 2: I think it's because Josh Allen scored twelve rushing touchdowns,
Speaker 2: Lamar only scored four. I think that is the difference.
Speaker 2: But rushing touchdowns are finicky, you know. I And by
Speaker 2: the way, if Baltimore next year decides we want to
Speaker 2: run Lamar into the end zone, he'll score there.
Speaker 3: That's not gonna do it when Darren Henry is there,
Speaker 3: Like that's the falls should Okay.
Speaker 1: But Derrick Henry was here this year and Josh Allen
Speaker 1: still had a lot of rushing touchdowns and Lamar still
Speaker 1: beat him out. As Box said, three was three points
Speaker 1: per game more? Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 2: Three points per game? Two point nine?
Speaker 1: Insane? That that doesn't sound like a lot. That's a lot.
Speaker 1: Everybody like, that's a whole lot. Welsh and number twelve
Speaker 1: has Brock Perty question for you? Is he in your
Speaker 1: QB one list going into twenty twenty five right now?
Speaker 3: I think he's on the I think he's in that
Speaker 3: cusp range. The only problem is, like if you want
Speaker 3: to sort by like fantasy points, you know, per per,
Speaker 3: you know, per outing over the entire season. He comes
Speaker 3: in at fourteen. There's some guys right under, like a
Speaker 3: healthy Jordan Love I think kind of competes for it.
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert obviously jumped back up. I mean, I haven't
Speaker 3: even jumped into my off season rankings, but I think
Speaker 3: he's somewhere between like twelve and fourteen. Some of the guys,
Speaker 3: by the way, that would be questionable Bonick, Sam Darnold,
Speaker 3: those guys probably not golf. Those guys were inside the
Speaker 3: top twelve of scoring per game this past season. Like
Speaker 3: I don't think you know, you're not gonna I'm probably
Speaker 3: not gonna do Donald there. But then you got Kyler Patrick.
Speaker 1: Both Nicks, I would which I can't believe.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, yeah me, yeah, where did both bo didn't
Speaker 3: go into this top twelve?
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean also to say thirteen, So he
Speaker 1: is very fringe. We're gonna talk about that.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have mccaffree back, You're gonna have Ayu kealthy again.
Speaker 3: Hopefully they ship out one of those guys. They've got
Speaker 3: a great receiving core, tons of injuries on the offensive line. Like,
Speaker 3: I get it, but I think Perty belongs in a
Speaker 3: grouping If he's outside the top twelve, I wouldn't really argue,
Speaker 3: but like, does he not belong in the grouping with
Speaker 3: like wherever Herbert is? I think he does and probably Boonnicks.
Speaker 1: All right, so the next grouping is your super flex qbs.
Speaker 1: And my question to you is who's your favorite or
Speaker 1: turn on Investment thirteen's bow Knicks. Somehow, Richardson's still at fourteen,
Speaker 1: and I can't get there right now. I'm always intrigued
Speaker 1: by Richardson. Yeah, I get it, but you know you
Speaker 1: have to be the starter to actually rush. And I'm
Speaker 1: just a little worried at this point of where we're
Speaker 1: going in that direction. Caleb Williams like eleven attempts per game,
Speaker 1: but not a big fan. Not a big fan, not
Speaker 1: so much. Caleb Williams at fifteen, two at sixteen, CJ.
Speaker 1: Sherard at seventeen, Dak at eighteen, which seems a gross
Speaker 1: under rating of Dak right now. Two years ago he
Speaker 1: was a top five quarterback and now all of a
Speaker 1: sudden he is number eighteen. I think that's absurd. Drake
Speaker 1: May at nineteen, Sam Darnold to be determined where he
Speaker 1: he lay ons, Trevor Lawrence Matthew Stafford at twenty two
Speaker 1: seems a little low to me too, and then Bryce
Speaker 1: Young Michael Pennix at twenty four, Well, she was your
Speaker 1: favorite or turn on investment in this group in Superflex
Speaker 1: In terms of the early rank.
Speaker 3: I think it's hard to deny Dak Prescott, like if
Speaker 3: you're talking full on return on investment. I think Trevor
Speaker 3: Lawrence is pretty interesting. I think Bryce Young is pretty interesting,
Speaker 3: but I have to imagine they're gonna deal with bringing in,
Speaker 3: you know, new weapons for Dak this this coming season,
Speaker 3: and like he's a top ten performer when he's out there,
Speaker 3: him and CD alone, So from an actual performance standpoint,
Speaker 3: it's him. But I did like I think bo Nix
Speaker 3: is an obvious when Caleb Williams also kind of jumped
Speaker 3: out to me, but Dak is going three spots lower
Speaker 3: than him, So using your terminology, that's why Dak is picked.
Speaker 3: But Caleb would have been maybe my overall that it's
Speaker 3: just like you know you're gonna have a coach that's
Speaker 3: probably gonna finally you hope he's gonna trust him throwing
Speaker 3: the ball deep, he showed some accuracy, He's got great weapons,
Speaker 3: Like I think you're gonna get to unleash him this
Speaker 3: year and we'll have a big sophomore breakout. But Dak
Speaker 3: is the best value box. Would you argue that, like
Speaker 3: Caleb at fifteen and what he's going to do is
Speaker 3: still a better return than Dak at eighteen.
Speaker 2: I don't think I would argue that. I think that,
Speaker 2: but I do think that those are the two names
Speaker 2: that really jump off the page to me, along with
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. With Liam Cohen, Dude, I think, yeah, I
Speaker 2: gave a really good grade.
Speaker 3: Dude. I gave a good grade of him with Joe
Speaker 3: when you were out Bogs and then after I saw
Speaker 3: the duval, I was like, that's a fight.
Speaker 1: I did not give a grade. And it was before
Speaker 1: the prefect already knew he was a little cringy and weird,
Speaker 1: and then the press conference just.
Speaker 3: Completely I think I give him an A minus. We
Speaker 3: need to go down to like A or B minus.
Speaker 2: Well, the thing about Trevor Lawrence that I don't understand,
Speaker 2: why no, none of his ocs have unlocked. The dude
Speaker 2: can run. He ran for more Yarns than Fields did
Speaker 2: his senior year, and they don't let him run just
Speaker 2: because they paid him a lot of money. Imagine if
Speaker 2: the Bills didn't let Josh Allen run. Imagine if the
Speaker 2: Ravens didn't let Lamar Jackson run. Let this dude use
Speaker 2: his wheel. He's got a whole nother you know gear
Speaker 2: in there that no oc is unlocked. So I think
Speaker 2: Cohen could do that for him as well. But you're right, well,
Speaker 2: so I think Dak and Joe. I think Dak is
Speaker 2: probably the best value out of this group. But I'm
Speaker 2: really excited about what Caleb Williams is going to be
Speaker 2: able to put together with Ben Joon.
Speaker 1: I'm excited about Drake May with all that cap space
Speaker 1: they've got. Depending on how things go this offseason, go.
Speaker 2: Get T Higgins.
Speaker 1: If they go get T Higgins and some offensive line
Speaker 1: help all of a sudden, because Drake Macon run a
Speaker 1: little bit too. People, you know, those who weren't wise
Speaker 1: to it learned real quick. I think that's a kid
Speaker 1: who just gets it, and if you give him some
Speaker 1: playmakers around him, this thing could get real good, real fast,
Speaker 1: and they always got real coordinators, real coaching around him too,
Speaker 1: and that's going to just do wonders for his development
Speaker 1: in the second year. Let's talk about the RBS. Real
Speaker 1: quick sake one at the top, Cool, Bijon at two.
Speaker 1: Jamior gives it three. Awesome. Those three guys I have
Speaker 1: first round grades on. I also have a late first
Speaker 1: round grade on Dereck Henry Steel because oh, I don't
Speaker 1: know if he runs for nineteen hundred fricking yards to
Speaker 1: score twenty thousand touch downs this year, and I don't
Speaker 1: know what's going to change year over year. Somehow, Devon
Speaker 1: eight Chan is at four ahead of Derrick Henry Bogs.
Speaker 1: I think this is absurd and I'm waiting for when
Speaker 1: do we start giving Derrick Henry more respect. I can't
Speaker 1: believe it. I've turned into like a Ravens guy on
Speaker 1: this podcast today. What's wrong with me?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, you're just a Dereck Henry guy because
Speaker 2: I've always bearon Dereck Henry going in into the season,
Speaker 2: so was I. Uh and Saquon like, you put these
Speaker 2: guys behind competent offensive lineman and they go crazy. So
Speaker 2: I'm with you on Derrick Henry and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: I still really do like a Chan but he's not
Speaker 2: a workhorse back, not like Barkley or Derrick Henry. Lots
Speaker 2: of points. I still think he's going to be very,
Speaker 2: very high. Probably should be fifth behind those guys, but
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'd put Henry ahead of him.
Speaker 1: The rest of this group here, Josh Jacobs, Jonathan Taylor,
Speaker 1: Bucky Irving, Kyen Williams at nine, which again also doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like giving him enough respect considering what he did
Speaker 1: last year. McCaffrey at ten feels about right to me.
Speaker 1: Then Brees Hall eleven, James Cook at twelve. If Aaron
Speaker 1: Glenn gets this team's head on straight, I again, I've
Speaker 1: said it numerous times, going to be criminally And if
Speaker 1: they bring in Justin Fields with Garrett Wilson again reconnect
Speaker 1: those guys get to run in the football and really
Speaker 1: dominate with defense. And and Breece Hall. I think Breece
Speaker 1: Hall could be a guy that wins.
Speaker 3: Justine I do, I do.
Speaker 1: I don't want Aaron Rodgers. What do all the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: have in common that were in the playoffs that have
Speaker 1: continued to advance. They're all mobile, quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: No, they're the best of the best. They're not Justin Fields.
Speaker 1: I understand, but you know what I mean. Look, Justin
Speaker 1: Field is still young enough, and I'm still old enough
Speaker 1: to remember when Justin Fields was good at Ohio State.
Speaker 1: Always said he's not talented. Are you telling me, like
Speaker 1: Justin Field's had no talent at all? Because I watched
Speaker 1: him go through the Ohio State career and I watched
Speaker 1: him in college playoffs, and I'm up, man, this kid's
Speaker 1: a pretty good young quarterback. And then he goes to Chicago,
Speaker 1: which is where good quarterback prospects.
Speaker 2: Go to die.
Speaker 1: So I mean, come on, let let's give the kid
Speaker 1: a break. Let's give me a chance to develop.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just you caught me off guard. Like when
Speaker 3: I'm like, You're like, You're like, oh, Brill's gonna being
Speaker 3: Gary Wilson. I wasn't expecting briefall.
Speaker 1: Last year was arguably the people were looking at him
Speaker 1: as possibly the number one overall running back right correct,
Speaker 1: going into last year. Now he's almost twelve. That's a
Speaker 1: huge value.
Speaker 3: I guess I just don't want a quarterback that's gonna
Speaker 3: that has to run and is going to run probably
Speaker 3: like eight to twelve times per game and also a
Speaker 3: system and maybe they'll change it this year, but they
Speaker 3: had other capable running backs that they kind of wanted
Speaker 3: to mix in and out. Like I want as many
Speaker 3: touches for Breese Hall as absolutely possible. I don't want
Speaker 3: it to kind of be minimized to Do.
Speaker 2: You want Donald going back?
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: I ever have a zero chance.
Speaker 3: I don't want add a team Breeshall touches a game
Speaker 3: with also a quarterback that doesn't really move the field.
Speaker 3: I want them to have more than like three and
Speaker 3: outs and stuff like that. But to your point, maybe
Speaker 3: with those weapons around in a better offense built that like,
Speaker 3: they're going to be in a really good spot. I
Speaker 3: will tell you the back half of this of the
Speaker 3: first round on the running backs is phenomenal. Say what
Speaker 3: you will. Christian McCaffrey at ten is ridiculous. It has
Speaker 3: number one overall upside Breece Hall. If you could go
Speaker 3: in and by the way, based on these ranks, you
Speaker 3: can if you wanted to double tap running back and
Speaker 3: go McCaffrey Breese Hall. There's some inherent risk, but there's
Speaker 3: also one two RB upside that's in there. I think
Speaker 3: this is like a really good core with some I'm
Speaker 3: a big Bucky guy, but like McCaffrey and Briefe Hall
Speaker 3: absolutely stand out. The value you're getting on the back
Speaker 3: half of the.
Speaker 1: RB well, I get it. Bucky's younger, so it as
Speaker 1: you want to look over him and McCaffrey. I get that.
Speaker 1: I dome for good year.
Speaker 2: Also, we're going to drop an incredible running back draft class.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about now. So the RB two's Chase Brown
Speaker 1: at thirteen, who I would have, by the way, in
Speaker 1: my top twelve because I think next year the Bengals
Speaker 1: are going to come back with a vengeance. I really
Speaker 1: I that team started to figure out its problems. You
Speaker 1: fixed it hot to come back with a defense. Well,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you fix some of the things
Speaker 1: in the secondary there, Joe Burrow is gonna be right
Speaker 1: back in there. I'm telling you right now that that
Speaker 1: was that was incredible. I don't think we have enough
Speaker 1: appreciation how back from the dead they came at the
Speaker 1: end of that season, that they were relevant in the
Speaker 1: last week. That is stunning, because in Week six I
Speaker 1: think we all looked around all like, wow, the Bengals
Speaker 1: are toasted. Like this is just not happening for them
Speaker 1: this year. And Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, I mean they
Speaker 1: willed that team back to life, Chase Brown, I'm all
Speaker 1: in next year. Joe Mixon at fourteen, Chubahabbard at fifteen.
Speaker 1: Good thing the gave him an extension. Turns out Kenth
Speaker 1: Walker at sixteen, Kamara at seventeen, Connor at eighteen, Ashton
Speaker 1: Genty at nineteen. Then you have Montgomery, Pacheco, Tyrone Tracy
Speaker 1: I think is far too low, Tony Pollard, and Aaron Jones.
Speaker 1: So Genty's the guy I want to talk about. Boggs,
Speaker 1: You're the Dynasty guy, You're the college football guy. This
Speaker 1: is a placeholder ranking for Genty. I get it. If
Speaker 1: gent let's say, is a Dallas cowboy, right, because we
Speaker 1: all know Jerry Liz Love. I mean, look, they haven't
Speaker 1: had an RB since Zeke in his prime. Put him
Speaker 1: at ten, that that was gonna be my question, like
Speaker 1: where is he If he's a cowboy, let's say, cause
Speaker 1: I think that's not abs over that's where he ends up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would take him on. I mean, I listen,
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on with McCaffrey anyway, like trust.
Speaker 1: No one does. Don't trust no one tells us what's
Speaker 1: going on McCaffrey. Have we not learned that the hard way?
Speaker 2: Yeah, McCaffrey is like he's in Germany.
Speaker 3: He's like having like transfusions and stuff like it's all good.
Speaker 3: There's no problems here. He's having a he's having a
Speaker 3: wick whatever. The guy that won, he's having a poppin'
Speaker 3: dinker right now.
Speaker 2: He's good. Yeah, yeah, Okay, Kyle Shanahan here to inform
Speaker 2: us like we would anything that comes out of his mouth. So, uh,
Speaker 2: I look, genty, if he goes to a place that
Speaker 2: doesn't have a good running back and he's going to
Speaker 2: just automatically get twenty touches a game, he's gonna be
Speaker 2: in the Bengals. That the the well, the Bengals would
Speaker 2: be tough. But uh, if he goes somewhere where he's
Speaker 2: getting all of the touches, he is going to be
Speaker 2: an insanely I mean he's mini marshau Lynch. That is
Speaker 2: my comp for him. He has incredible balance, he has
Speaker 2: grave vision. Uh, he fights for that extra he can
Speaker 2: catch the ball. The dude can do everything.
Speaker 1: He's not going in the first five picks.
Speaker 2: I think we all agree, correct, he might go in
Speaker 2: the first ten.
Speaker 1: All right, Well that's what I'm saying. So let's take
Speaker 1: the first five out of it, because I don't think
Speaker 1: he's the top. I don't think we're there yet with him.
Speaker 1: The Raiders are at six, the Jets are at seven.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Jets are gonna be that. Caroline's
Speaker 1: at eight, New Orleans at nine, the Bears at ten,
Speaker 1: San fran at eleven, and then the Dallas count.
Speaker 2: Bears a ten, bears a ten, bears your entire offense
Speaker 2: around him.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, okay, so bears a ten. Is he
Speaker 1: still a top ten guy? Then? For you? I understand
Speaker 1: the Dallas one. I get that.
Speaker 2: I don't give a crap about DeAndre Swift.
Speaker 3: So yes, what about the Raiders? About how about Pete?
Speaker 2: How about Paton Johnson has done that?
Speaker 3: How about Pete gets his Marshawn Lynch?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Russell Wilson will probably say there, so's what's
Speaker 2: Bobby Wagner doing.
Speaker 1: Maybe we could just get everybody back together.
Speaker 3: Get the band back together, that's what they're doing.
Speaker 1: Let's just hang out there, all right. So that's a
Speaker 1: little look here. And again when we come back to
Speaker 1: the Twitch in a couple of weeks, we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about the tight end position. We're gonna talk about the
Speaker 1: wide receivers. To just kind of run some of these
Speaker 1: questions and ranks. These are good conversations to have because
Speaker 1: the consensus is polling right. It's not facts, it's just
Speaker 1: where some of the experts are right now in the process,
Speaker 1: and that's gonna change and evolve. But if you're doing
Speaker 1: it's running back is gonna be deep.
Speaker 2: Get wide receiver early this year because running back is.
Speaker 1: Deep, yeah, and that's a good thing. And as we
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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett wants out of Cleveland. Eight seasons with the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. Arguably a Hall of Famer already, I would think,
Speaker 1: but there's some teams that have some cap space currently.
Speaker 1: When you look around the league and when you're looking
Speaker 1: at these top teams here. I know the Patriots are
Speaker 1: at the top here. After that, you have the Raiders,
Speaker 1: you have the Commanders, you have the Cardinals. Commanders are
Speaker 1: fascinating because if you bring a real pass rusher there,
Speaker 1: like a Miles Garrett to that team and the leadership
Speaker 1: he provides, that would be stunning thing to see. The Cardinals, Chargers, Bears, Vikings,
Speaker 1: those are all teams that have a lot of cap space. Welsh,
Speaker 1: do you have a prediction spot here of where you
Speaker 1: think Miles Garrett's gonna land?
Speaker 3: How about the San Francisco forty nine ers. They got
Speaker 3: wide receivers to trade. They talked Brandon Ayyuk sending him
Speaker 3: to Cleveland. After the deal, they got the eleventh overall pick.
Speaker 3: What the hell do they care with stupid draft picks?
Speaker 3: Get a pass rusher to go on the other side
Speaker 3: of Nick Bosa, Lock it up, Lock it up.
Speaker 1: That's that's fun. But at the same time, highly unlikely.
Speaker 3: I think likely, very likely. You don't think they're going
Speaker 3: to be massively hyper aggressive on getting the most talented
Speaker 3: defensive player when they have a glut of stupid wide receivers.
Speaker 3: They got the eleventh overall pick, which they don't care
Speaker 3: about that. What are they going to use it for
Speaker 3: a pass rusher? If they could go and use that
Speaker 3: pick to get Garrett. Absolutely, he says he wants to win.
Speaker 3: So the Vikings also are in the top ten in
Speaker 3: terms of cap space. They're gonna have some openings potentially too,
Speaker 3: on that pass side of the edge. I think the
Speaker 3: NFL third of the NFL is going to be on
Speaker 3: it all joke, the.
Speaker 1: Third of the NFL. Look, but two thurs of the
Speaker 1: NFL can't uh the way they can probably afford to
Speaker 1: take him on and structure the things they want to do. Bogs,
Speaker 1: do you have any landing spots in mind? You're the
Speaker 1: mister defense here as.
Speaker 2: Well the Lakers. The Lakers think just pair him with
Speaker 2: Don I think that's going.
Speaker 4: To be.
Speaker 1: Right now.
Speaker 2: Listen, I think he I don't think Cleveland moves him.
Speaker 2: I think it would be stupid of them to move. Well,
Speaker 2: if the Shoes, I think he would be. Yeah, if
Speaker 2: they didn't avoid that contract your the Shoe fits give it,
Speaker 2: uh the biggest contract in NFL history and trade three
Speaker 2: first row.
Speaker 3: If they didn't have all those openings to void Watson's
Speaker 3: contract and they just kept doing it? What makes us
Speaker 3: think that they're going to listen and move Miles Garrett.
Speaker 3: For Garrett to be gone before Watson would be as
Speaker 3: crazy as Doncic being traded in the middle of the
Speaker 3: night at least close.
Speaker 1: There you go, There you go. Where do you think
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett's go to appel? Drop your comments below here
Speaker 1: in the YouTube channel make your predictions. Where does Miles
Speaker 1: Garrett land in twenty twenty five? Also tell me why
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson isn't number one on the Expert Consensus rankings.
Speaker 1: You know what? It makes me want to put my
Speaker 1: ranks in today because I'm so fired up an annoyed bogs.
Speaker 1: Have you put yours in yet for twenty twenty five?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: I have? Okay, so Bogs that are gonna play our
Speaker 1: rankings in Welsh? When you put your rankings in, is
Speaker 1: Lamar number one QB on your board? All right? Good?
Speaker 1: So the three of us have to get on that
Speaker 1: when we get back from Las Vegas and start to
Speaker 1: elevate Lamar. I don't know why he's number two. It
Speaker 1: makes my head hurt the Las Vegas that's right, And Bog,
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you're feeling better too. I know last
Speaker 1: week you were super sick. We missed you on the program.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're better here and you're not dead yet
Speaker 1: dead yet still going. Can't kill Scott Pogman. We've tried
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Speaker 1: but the story of the game goes on for Bogman
Speaker 1: and Welsh. I'm Joey p. We'll see you next time. Kids,
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