1 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What 2 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: You Did. My name is Millie de Cherco. 3 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 2: I'm Daniel Henderson, and. 4 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: This is a film podcast that rules all others. Let's 5 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: get serious. I'm being like like extra boastful about this 6 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: podcast in the latest episodes. And I don't know if 7 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: this is a road you want to go down, but 8 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: we're going down it. 9 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: I'm fine to go down it. I believe you. 10 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: It's funny because it's the summer. It's a beautiful time 11 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: of the year. It's supposed to be like a sunny, positive, 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: perky part of the year, and right now I'm just 13 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: like I am not feeling it, Like I'm just like 14 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: a grump. And I went into my local coffee shop. 15 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: And this coffee shop is the definition of like summertime, 16 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: good time vibes. Like the branding of it. It's all 17 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: like bright rainbow colors, all the furnitures white, and every 18 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: person that works there, I feel like they're cult members. 19 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: There's like a cult membery vibe to them to the 20 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: point where they forget that customers come in and exist 21 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: like it's like they're in their own bubble of employee bubbles. 22 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: Have you ever experienced this before in any of their jobs. 23 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 3: I have experienced it in as a customer, yes, primarily 24 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 3: in la where you're standing there and you're like, I 25 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 3: would like a coffee please, and everyone is just like 26 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: busy behind the counter whisky, Like there's nobody else in 27 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: the store, but they're like whiskey and listening to music 28 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: and talking to each other about their schedules. And I'm like, 29 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: I would still like a coffee please, And it's it's 30 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: it's impossible to interrupt because you just feel like a dick. 31 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: But also you're like I thought we had an unspoken 32 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 3: rule that like I'm here for a thing that you have. 33 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: Yes, so again you gave it to me. 34 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: But the ease I come into this coffee shop and 35 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: it's packed. It is packed full of people. There's never 36 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: anywhere to sit, like people are like starting their like 37 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: venture capital companies there. I mean, it's like a fucking nightmare, right, 38 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: And everybody that's there is also like complicit in the vibe, 39 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: like they're all like wearing like handlebar David Koresh glasses 40 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: and they all have like ironic mustaches and like you know, 41 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: one earring. They look like fucking Tom Sandoval, you know, 42 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: like white finger and no polish, Like everybody has that 43 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: vibe to them, right, even the customers. But then when 44 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: you show up to the counter, they're all like, there's 45 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: one hundred people working, right, So it's kind of the 46 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: thing where like there's so many people working and then 47 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: they do not say hi, do you? They do not 48 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: recognize that you're there. They're too busy. Like I literally 49 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: today I was like watching four people look at some 50 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: some kind of like TikTok or something, and then they 51 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: were talking about how one of the people in the 52 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: back was like microdosing today and they are feeling better today, like, 53 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: and it was like they were just like in their 54 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: own world. And I was like standing there, like pay 55 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: attention to me, like what are you doing? Are you 56 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: hanging out? 57 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: Like? 58 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: And then when they finally did notice me, it was 59 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: kind of this like slow rong and like, oh, what's up? 60 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,119 Speaker 2: What's up? Is that I'm tired and I need coffee? 61 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: Yes, And it was early in the morning, and I was, 62 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: you know, definitely at a grumpy point, but I was 63 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: like I cannot believe these people don't care here. 64 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: I know, you know, what's we got an email recently 65 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: and it was very nice email and we might read 66 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: it on a show coming up. But we got this 67 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: really nice email and someone signed off like calling us 68 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: a grumpy like oh, thanks for being grumpy and blah blah. 69 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: It was again like nice spirited, but I instantly was like, 70 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: why is everyone always calling us grumpy? And now I'm like, oh, 71 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: it's because of this, because like we are grumpy sometimes, 72 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 3: but I am grumpy about coffee always if I'm not 73 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 3: getting it, and I definitely thinks it's a weird generational thing. 74 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 3: And I'm like, I hate to bring up the generational divide, 75 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 3: but I think that there's like, you know, these are 76 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: the kinds of jobs that by and large are populated 77 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 3: by younger people. 78 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: It's like a good entry point. 79 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: You can make tips, you can you know, work in 80 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: the morning and then have the rest of your day 81 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: to yourself. Like that's why I loved working in coffee 82 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: shops when I was younger. You know, getting up early 83 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 3: wasn't my thing, but I loved like, oh, I'm done 84 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 3: it like noon or like one o'clock for the most part, 85 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 3: and so I get it, Like you can work another job, 86 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: you can go to school, like I totally get it. 87 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 3: But the thing that's missing lately, I think over the 88 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 3: last few years, and this is why I think it's generational, 89 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 3: is there's this kind of pressing notion that like I'm 90 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 3: above it, like I shouldn't be doing this work because 91 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: I'm so much cooler and better than this. And when 92 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: that happens, when that attitude infiltrates a coffee shop per se, 93 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 3: I think it then becomes like like they think we're 94 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 3: all in it together and we're not, and I'm like, oh, 95 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 3: there's still a basic level of customer service that you 96 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 3: have to have if you're working a face to face job. 97 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: And it doesn't mean you have to love it, and 98 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 3: it doesn't mean you have to like buy into it 99 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: or whatever. But if you're offering a product, you have 100 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 3: to say hello to people and make them understand that 101 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 3: it's like their turn, or like you know, invite them 102 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: into their process so then you can get them out 103 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 3: of there and go back to watching TikTok or whatever 104 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: the fuck. But like that has gotten out the window, 105 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: like there's no more unspoken customer service level. God, I 106 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 3: sound like such a fucking boom right now, but it's true. 107 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: It's like there's just no basic level of give a 108 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: shit because everyone thinks like I'm above this job. 109 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 2: I don't want to do this job. 110 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 3: I'm not making enough money on this job, so I'm 111 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 3: not going to actually perform the job, even though I'm 112 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 3: at the. 113 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: Job well and like that that I think too. I mean, 114 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: this is a thing that has completely changed from the 115 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: era when I worked in coffee shops, which are that 116 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: now coffee shops are like museums, like galleries where like 117 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: hip artsy people work and then the coffee is like 118 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: eight dollars and it's like this whole vibe, Whereas like 119 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: when I worked in coffee shops in like the late 120 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: nineties early two thousands, they're like not all the employees 121 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: were young and hot and interesting, like I was in 122 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: working in coffee shops with like middle aged women who 123 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: were wearing like multiple lanyards, even though we did not 124 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: need lanyards for anything. We did not have swipe cards. 125 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: It was just part of their look was that they 126 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: wore lanyard things around their necks and they would come 127 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: in in the mornings with like ninety six ounce insulated 128 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: mugs from like a gas station filled with like diet 129 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: coke and they would take smoke breaks, Like these are 130 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: people that I used to work in coffee shops with, 131 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: Like I never worked in coffee shops with people who 132 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: were like microdosing and doing art and then like our influencers. 133 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I just was like, this is such a 134 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: weird vibe, Like yeah, and that's kind of I think, 135 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: Like what the disconnect for me is is that I'm 136 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: just like, well, they're just there to like hang out 137 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: and look cute, and that, I think too, is also 138 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: like something that's very new to Atlanta, at least like 139 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: in the time that I've been back, which is that 140 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: Atlanta is full on Los Angeles now, like in so 141 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: many fucking ways, Because it used to be that Atlanta 142 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: coffee shops, even if they were cool, like the cool 143 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: ones that you would go to that were staffed by 144 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: people in bands and shit, there were a little rough 145 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: There were bohemian, a little rough around the edges, but 146 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: friendly like neighborhoodye and friendly. 147 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: Okay exactly. 148 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying like it just feels like the 149 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: culture of the coffee shop has changed since my day, 150 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: but also in my town. Yeah, I sound like a 151 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: boomer too. What the fuck, we're booming. 152 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: I know we sound like one hundred years old, but 153 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: it's true that like the culture has changed. The coffee 154 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: culture has changed, and now it's like a place to 155 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: be seen instead of a place to get coffee. And 156 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 3: I think that's because you know, again obviously nine hundred 157 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 3: years old here, but like people have computers now, so 158 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 3: they can sit around all day and they can make 159 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 3: it like a real hangout spot. A lot of people 160 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 3: are living at home, so they need a place to 161 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 3: go where they can just like chill out all day 162 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 3: and feel like they're you know, a vibrant twenty three 163 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 3: year old or whatever it is. 164 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 2: Like I get all of that. I totally get it. 165 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: And that's why I don't sit in the coffee shop. 166 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: It's so I usually go get my coffee and fucking leave. 167 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 3: But when it comes to like getting the product, that's 168 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: when I get pissed because I'm like, oh, oh, you 169 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 3: do have no interest in even like giving me coffee, 170 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 3: Like you're here, you're so much into the culture and 171 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: the being seen and like this is your friend's like 172 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 3: where your friends are and everything that, like you don't 173 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: even want to do the job. 174 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that was not my experience. 175 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 3: Either, Like I I will just say this, I have 176 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 3: not seen hustle in a coffee shop in about forty 177 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 3: fucking years. Like, I haven't seen anyone hustle in a 178 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 3: coffee shop since I worked in one. 179 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, the only hustle in a coffee shop that you 180 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: ever see now is if you're like at the airport, 181 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: Like those people working at the coffee shops in the 182 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: airport are actually working everybody else. That's just like at 183 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: a coffee shop where everyone's sitting around and listening to 184 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, like ambient edio or something like, and 185 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: it's very like bright and cool and influencery, and I'm 186 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: just like, I don't know. The funniest thing to me, too, 187 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: was like in the nineties, making like the culture at 188 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: that time was like it like the stereotype of the 189 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: coffee shop was like literally like the feather pen in 190 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: hand beat nick bohemian, you know, beret wearin bullshit, and 191 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: compared to what it is now, I miss it. I'm like, 192 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: can we please bring back a really poorly designed coffee 193 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: shop that has pictures of like fucking Shakespeare with like 194 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: retired license plates on the wall, giant like you know, 195 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: paintings that are terrible. 196 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: And make it uninhabitable. 197 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: Yes, but like the style of it is so oh 198 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: not completely thought out right, that's I think what I curate. 199 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: I miss, I miss things being less deliberate and designing. 200 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it comes to oh yeah, that's just like my 201 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: whole life. 202 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: Like that's why I don't leave the house because I'm like, 203 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: I don't want everything to be fucking curated. I want 204 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 3: to see weirdos. I want to see people out of place. 205 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 3: I want to see the mess of the human condition 206 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 3: when I leave my fucking house and it never happens anymore. 207 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 3: And it's again like there's a base level of friendliness 208 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 3: is no longer required, which part of me is like cool, grift, 209 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: Like you guys figured out how to work and not 210 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: be nice. 211 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 2: That's great, but what a grift. But like also I 212 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: feel like. 213 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: Especially here, like there's one coffee shop in my town 214 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 3: that technically counts that that it's actually a cafe that 215 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 3: I can go to and they're very nice. 216 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: Like this is the weird thing. 217 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 3: They're very nice, but they're so slow that I can't 218 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: go there because it takes and I'm not exaggerating twenty 219 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 3: twenty five minutes to get a single. 220 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: Cup of coffee. 221 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 3: And I'm not talking like an intense drink, like a 222 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: even a cappuccino foam, which you know I could usually 223 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 3: bust out in a minute flat. 224 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: But I get it if like that's no longer the vibe. 225 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 3: It takes you five minutes to make a good cappuccino 226 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,239 Speaker 3: foam because everyone's a fucking perfectionist. 227 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: Everyone has anxiety whatever it is. I get that. 228 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 3: I'm talking like a drip coffee taking twenty five minutes 229 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: because they're like, oh, we forgot this person wanted this. 230 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 3: Oh I forgot about that. I guess I should check 231 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 3: on your food. 232 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: Oh. 233 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 3: And I'm like waiting there the whole time, just looking like, seriously, 234 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 3: you don't have like an express lane, not one express 235 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: lane where someone can just like pour coffee and give 236 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: it to me. 237 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: No, they don't have that. 238 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: At the coffee shop that I'm talking about, the one 239 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: in sort of my neighborhood, they don't even do drip. 240 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: They do everything is pour over. 241 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 2: So I ain't got time for that. 242 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: Listen, And I was like, I have a stag kettle 243 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: at my house. I have a Gooseeneck kettle. In my house. 244 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here going I'm about to pay eight dollars 245 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: for this fucking slow pour over coffee that I could 246 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: just have done at my house. And I don't know 247 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: why I did it. I don't know why I did 248 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: it other than I was just being lazy and I 249 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: didn't want to wait. 250 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 3: Well, no, you're on the go, and you also want 251 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 3: to get out of your house and have a different experience, 252 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 3: but you don't want it to be that experience, like 253 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 3: there has to be a balance, and you you can't 254 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 3: get I hate you cannot get me into those fucking 255 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 3: antler pots. I can't stand them. Like why am I 256 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 3: pouring hot water out of a fucking deer head? Like 257 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 3: what is this shit? It's all matt colored and like 258 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: it doesn't hold enough water for any of the. 259 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: Thing I'm making, And I'm like what the fuck is this? 260 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, you need one of them giant things that they 261 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: would bring to church, like those giant insulated like you know, 262 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: spout things and it's all fucking sanka in there, like 263 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: just like yes, and like I totally you know, as 264 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: much as coffee has gotten like better, more curatorial, well 265 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: I have gone down that road. I mean'm not gonna lie. 266 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: I have like a hundred ways to make coffee in 267 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: my house, Like it's so obnoxious. Like I have arrow Press, 268 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: I have Harryo, I have you know, a Harryo. I 269 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: have a ket I have. It's like it's basically like 270 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: a Japanese pour over contraption. I mean now that you 271 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: can buy them for like five dollars at Target, but 272 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: back in the day when I bought it, it was like, oh, 273 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: it's this thing that has ridges on the inside that 274 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: are twisty. So it's gonna I mean, the poor over 275 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: is gonna be more effective. And I mean it's like, 276 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: and that is so such the pomp and circumstance. I 277 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: like a little bit of that, but like it has 278 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: definitely gotten like so obnoxious to where I'm like I 279 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: sometimes just need a coffee and I don't need this 280 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: person to heat up water in a Gooseneck kettle to 281 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: like two twelve then gently do a pour over in 282 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: some like you know tech shared contraption and then you know, 283 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: I mean it just took forever. And then it was 284 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: also like there's like two things that happened, so it 285 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: was like it took so they totally blew me off. 286 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: Then I ordered got my coffee, took forever because it 287 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: was pour over, and then I actually ordered food too. 288 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: Oh bitch, no a day. 289 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: So I was standing there at one end of the 290 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: counter and then this guy comes out eventually with my 291 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: food and he just like says my name all Lacka basically. 292 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if this was the guy who was 293 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: micronosing today. I feel like it might have been ah. 294 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh, I'm over here, and 295 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: then he took my bagel and slid it across the 296 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: counter to me. He didn't even want to hand it 297 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: to me. He just was like right, And I was like, 298 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: did you just slide a bagel across the counter to me? 299 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: Like like we're in a western, like a fifties Western. 300 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, that is like the way I would open 301 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: john Wick five. 302 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 3: It's like someone slides a bagel at me and then 303 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: I shoot them in a face and stomach four times. 304 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 2: I throw an axe at their head like those are 305 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 2: fighting bagels at that point, and he didn't even. 306 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: Say anything to me. I just went I was like 307 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: at the other end of the counter. I was like, 308 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: thank you, and then he just walked back and I. 309 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: Was like, oh my. I was like, wow, this is 310 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 2: why I can't do I can't do it. And this 311 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: is the other thing. 312 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 3: When I leave my house and I go to these places, 313 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 3: I am so nice because I've worked these jobs. I 314 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 3: know how much pain the asset is that you're dealing 315 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 3: with behind the scenes or shit we don't even know 316 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 3: about that. You're trying to get done and get through 317 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: to do your fucking job. Customers are assholes. I totally 318 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 3: get it. So I'm super nice when i'd leave my 319 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 3: house and just in general, again not grumpy, thank you, 320 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 3: just nice and opinionated. Let's let's start saying that folks 321 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: and your emails, yes, make distinction, but I definitely I 322 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 3: don't like leaving my house and being met with a 323 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 3: sour face and feeling like I'm fucking up your day 324 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 3: because I want something like. I don't like that feeling 325 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 3: at all, So I'd never go back to those places. 326 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: Like there was this place where I lived in La 327 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 3: like right around the corner from my house, right before 328 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 3: I left my last not my last apartment, but the 329 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 3: apartment before that where we lived close together. Yeah, and 330 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 3: right before I left that neighborhood. There was a coffee 331 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 3: shop that opened and I went in and it was 332 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 3: like millennial pink. It smelled like, here's here's the first tip. 333 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 3: It smelled like a flower shop. It did not smell 334 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 3: like coffee at all. So I should have turned around 335 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 3: and walked out. That was the first tip. But it 336 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: was like millennial pink. And they had like three food 337 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 3: items in the case, like one muffin and one vegan 338 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 3: bar and one thing. And I'm like, oh, you are 339 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 3: not made for speed at all. Like it's just like 340 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 3: we're showing you what kind of food we could do possibly. 341 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 3: And then you know, they had this big fifty thousand 342 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: dollars fucking machine that looked like it had never been touched, 343 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 3: and you know, like these like branded designer cups and 344 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 3: like the beans and the and it was it looked 345 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 3: so nice, and there were three people. I was the 346 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 3: only customer. There were three people working in there. I 347 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 3: walked in, and I swear to god, nobody said a 348 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: word to me for like five minutes. So I was 349 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 3: just kind of looking around at all their stuff, and 350 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 3: then I went to their end of the counter where 351 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 3: they were talking, and I just started ordering and they 352 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 3: were like, oh, we do that over there, and I'm like, okay, 353 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 3: but I was basically like being very passive aggressive, and 354 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 3: I instantly hated myself. But I'm like, I don't know 355 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 3: your rules. I don't know how to get what I need. 356 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,239 Speaker 3: I could have been gone already, but I just had 357 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 3: to walk over to you and now interrupt you. And 358 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 3: now I feel like a shithead, and I'm being scolded 359 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 3: because you didn't want to come to the place where 360 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 3: ordering happens and help me. 361 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: And I walked around. 362 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 3: For five minutes like I was in a fucking museum 363 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 3: looking at all your fucking Chotchke's and your fucking Antler 364 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 3: decorations and shit and your fucking Macroma, and I'm like, 365 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 3: I just want I literally just want a latte. That's 366 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 3: all I want. I can make it myself, I will, 367 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 3: I will. I would rather have a coffee shop be like, 368 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 3: here is the make it yourself espresso machine. All of 369 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: our employees are talking in the back. You do it, 370 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 3: and it's an honor system. I would honestly prefer that 371 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 3: at this point than me feeling like a fucking asshole 372 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 3: every time I go in. 373 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: Look. Let me guess, let me. Guess right now, this 374 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: is a place that doesn't serve an ice coffee above 375 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: twelve ounces? 376 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 2: Am I absolutely not, absolutely not Fuck that? Fuck oh that. 377 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: Oh and this is the place doesn't even have ice coffee. 378 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: They only have iced Americanos. 379 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 3: Like there's so many I like, there's so many signals 380 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 3: now that I'm like, oh, this is not the place 381 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 3: for me. If I look at your menu and it 382 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 3: says ice coffee and I go up to order and 383 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 3: you're like, oh, it's actually it's an iced Americano, and 384 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, that's not an iced coffee. Get one, get 385 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 3: your shit together, learn your fucking trade. That is not 386 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,239 Speaker 3: an iced coffee. And ice Americano is a totally an 387 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 3: experience for my brain and my butthole. 388 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, yes, this is why the middle aged woman 389 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: manager at my old coffee shop job had ninety six 390 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: ounces in a fucking mug a period, Like I don't 391 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: have time for these twelve ounce pores. Like I'm just like, 392 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: that's the largest ice coffee that you make is twelve ounces, 393 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: and then half of it is ice. On top of that, 394 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: it's so five dollars. It's five dollars for a twelve 395 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: ounce ice coffee. I don't give a shit if it's 396 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: cold brew, Like cold brew is actually probably easier to 397 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: make because all you have to do is put it 398 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: in a fucking pot and let it sit overnight. Like 399 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: what the fuck is wrong with you? And I'm like, 400 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: I don't have time for this. I'm like, take me 401 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: to Starbucks where I can get like a twenty four 402 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: ounce iced coffee as God intended bare minimum. It needs 403 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: to be bare minimum. Sixteen ounces, Like sixteen ounces is 404 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: the drop dead b for iced coffee. It should go 405 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: up from sixteen, not a twelve. Fuck that. 406 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 3: This is why as much as I like to shop 407 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 3: local and support local, this is why dunkin Donuts is 408 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 3: basically my local coffee shop whenever I leave the house, 409 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 3: and even dunkin Donuts will play sometimes because I ordered 410 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 3: a I'm like, I don't need that much coffee. I'll 411 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 3: get a small iced coffee today. I've never had a 412 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: small anything at dunkin Donuts. That's not how you should 413 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 3: be ordering there. They don't want you to. But I 414 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 3: ordered a small iced coffee. When they handed it to me, 415 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 3: I'm like, is this a child's drink? Like? 416 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 2: What is this? Like? Fit in the palm of my hand. 417 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 3: I sucked it down in two seconds, and I'm like, 418 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: I can't do small here because this is too small 419 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 3: to function. 420 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 2: It's that twelve oun shit does not fly with me 421 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: at all. 422 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: Oh and I feel like that is some kind of 423 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: curatorial standard that was created by hipsters like ten years ago, 424 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: where they're like all we do is dainty sizes because 425 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: subtlety is our luxury and we're not We're not trashy. 426 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: We don't give people giant cups of coffee because it 427 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: doesn't look good. 428 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 3: You know. 429 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, oh my god, the fuck happened, 430 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: Like I'm sorry, but like I mean, I'm definitely not 431 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: like drinking hazelnut latte from the fucking gas station every day. 432 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: But also I don't want twelve ounce curatorial bullshit cups 433 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: of coffee. Like have a happy medium, stop being conflict 434 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: avoidant by looking at TikTok while you're supposed to be 435 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: working like microdose, but also be present in in the 436 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: world so you can function at your job. Like I'm 437 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: just like, just do the extra little bit of thing 438 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: and stop being so snobby, like, don't make us feel 439 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: like we're busted in on your fucking Zarda's cult, like. 440 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: This is why this is. 441 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 3: It's a very interesting moment for me for so many reasons, 442 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 3: because when I was younger, I used to always wonder, like, 443 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 3: why are middle aged people always so mad about everything? 444 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: Like why are they just mad? And now that I 445 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: am that, I'm like. 446 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 3: Oh, because the convenience becomes decreases the more you need convenience, 447 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 3: the less you are able to access it as you 448 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 3: get older. And that shit is infuriating. 449 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: And now I. 450 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 3: Totally fucking get it. So my again, don't I don't 451 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 3: leave my house. I went to the city this week. 452 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 3: My manager was in town, so I had lunch with 453 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 3: my manager and we had lunch at this great restaurant 454 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 3: and then I was like, you know what, I'm gonna 455 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 3: get an iced coffee before I leave, Like I got 456 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 3: to drive home, and I don't know, just wanted something 457 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 3: for the drive. So we were in the Tribeca and 458 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: I walked around the corner to the closest coffee shop 459 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 3: and again almost and again I'm thinking Tribeca, like I'll 460 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 3: at least be able to find some like mean old 461 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 3: Italian person who's like, we've been here for fifty fucking years. 462 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: What the fuck do you want? 463 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 3: Like that is all I need? Is like that New 464 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 3: York attitude is like what like I would prefer that 465 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 3: to aloof. I was percent what what are. 466 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: You doing here? Like you see some sparks coming out 467 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 2: of those shoes and get ready? No. 468 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 3: I first of all, there's a line like you wouldn't believe. 469 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 3: And I'm not standing in line for forty five minutes 470 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 3: for a fucking coffee. So I left and went to 471 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 3: the next one that I could find on Google Maps 472 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 3: or whatever. Yeah, and I walked around the corner and 473 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 3: it was like the most like again. I basically the 474 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 3: long story short is I didn't get a coffee for 475 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 3: my drive. 476 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 2: I had to drive out of the city. 477 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 3: Once I got through the fucking Holland Tunnel, I hit 478 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 3: a Dunkin Donuts because I'm like looking at the menu 479 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 3: and I'm like, there are two things on this menu 480 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 3: and it's like artisanal roast our artisanal roast for the 481 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 3: day is whatever, and we also have like a cold brewer. 482 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 3: And I'm like, you have two things in this fucking 483 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 3: coffee shop. 484 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: And it was packed. It was packed. People were sitting 485 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: all over the place, I laughed. 486 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 3: I'm like, this is this is the moment, this is 487 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 3: my middle aged moment, where like, unless I want to 488 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 3: walk across the fucking like sixth Avenue and be getting home, yeah, 489 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 3: so I can hit up that place, that's like, what 490 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 3: what do you want? Let's go like giving me the 491 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 3: sense of urgency. 492 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: I couldn't do it. So I just went and got 493 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: a fucking dunk on the way home. 494 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 3: And it was heartbreaking because I used to love getting 495 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 3: a coffee and walking around New York City and now 496 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 3: I feel like I have to add an hour to 497 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 3: my trip if I want to do that. 498 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the thing that cool people don't want 499 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: you to say, which is that I fucking rock with 500 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: Starbucks before this bullshit, Like I would rather go to 501 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: a fucking soulless chain than to put up with the 502 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: kind of like weirdness of going to like a really 503 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: or like specific hip. I mean, I will support a 504 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: local business insofar as it makes me feel comfortable, Like 505 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: when I go there, I'm not just gonna go there 506 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: because it's a vibe. What the fuck like, I it 507 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: has to have something friendliness, friendliness, just be friendly. 508 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 3: And here's what I really think is happening too. All 509 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: of these places need an adult. Yes, an adult no 510 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 3: longer means a certain age like eighteen and up. Or 511 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 3: you need a fucking adult. You need that lanyard bitch 512 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 3: in there being like why are you all standing around? 513 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 3: Let's go and then you can post it on TikTok 514 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 3: all you want about how much of a bitch your 515 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 3: fucking bosses. But I need that person in the store 516 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: to get you moving, to do your fucking shit. Like 517 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 3: all of these places need a goddamn adult who actually 518 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 3: needs the job. Just one, just one person who needs 519 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 3: the job, and all of these places would change the 520 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 3: fucking economy. 521 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: There are two types of managers that I experienced overwhelmingly 522 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: when I was in my twenties working at coffee shops 523 00:26:50,000 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: retail food, the lanyard lady or the intense older gay 524 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: man who wore big pants and was micromanaging everybody to death. 525 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: Like those are the two types of managers that need 526 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: to come in do a bar rescue type of thing, 527 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: like bring in these two with their you know, their 528 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: chain smoking and their fucking like edous CDs, Like bring 529 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: these people in to shipshape these places up, because Honestly, 530 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: it is a lot of hanging out. There's no adults. 531 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: It's just people in their very early twenties who just 532 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 1: want to hang out and look beautiful. And we got 533 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: to do it. We got to bring in these folks, 534 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: these these managers of old because it's mad. It's madness. 535 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 3: I need Gordon Ramsay to take over everything. I just 536 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 3: want a craggy faced British man. 537 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: Being like, what the fuck are you doing? But here's 538 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: the other thing. 539 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 3: I don't think it has to reach like abusive levels 540 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 3: to make it work. I think you literally just need 541 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 3: an adult to be like, no, you actually have to 542 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 3: go help that person, and then like you know, after hours, 543 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 3: you can have your courses on like how to make 544 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 3: eye contact, Like why do you have this job if 545 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 3: you can't talk to people? Like you can figure that 546 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 3: all out. 547 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 2: In your own fucking time. 548 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 3: But like, there's just a weird shift that I do 549 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 3: not appreciate because I don't like leaving my house and 550 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,719 Speaker 3: feeling like I'm a goddamn burden just because I'm in 551 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 3: your place of business asking for the thing that your 552 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 3: business does. 553 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: I would love to see, I would the best thing 554 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: I would have happened this morning, if it's like an 555 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: older lady with like tattooed lipstick came out from behind 556 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: the Countermit, Patrick, I'm about to go take my ten minute, 557 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: and if you don't come back here and this shit 558 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: ain't ficking fixed, then we are. We're gonna have a problem. 559 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna have a problem with me. 560 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 3: Do you know how long it's beens? As I there's 561 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 3: a line, I can't a fucking no fucking sense emergency, 562 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 3: no sense of urgency at all. 563 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 2: I can't believe we've been busting on this for thirty minutes. 564 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 3: But I also can fully believe I've been busting on 565 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 3: this for like a half hour, because it's truly a 566 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 3: pain point to realize. Oh, I didn't become a grumpy 567 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 3: middle aged person. I was made into a grumpy middle 568 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 3: age person. And I don't appreciate Listen. 569 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: Sorry to admit this, folks, but busting makes me feel good. 570 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: It does. 571 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 3: I also, I can't. I also can't. I mean, this 572 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 3: is again, my town is very limited. It's not a city, 573 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 3: but I see this in the cities. 574 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 2: When I go. 575 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 3: But like my choice in my town for coffee is 576 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 3: Dunkin Donuts, the place where it takes twenty five minutes 577 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 3: to get a fucking drip cup of coffee, or the 578 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 3: place that's run by the guys who were at the insurrection. 579 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 2: Like I'm I'm in for choice here. 580 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 3: So as much as I want to support local business, 581 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 3: of those three, I'm going to Dunk every fucking time. 582 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: Listen. 583 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 2: And this is the other thing. Like again, I just 584 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 2: I don't. I have such a great experience at the Dunk. 585 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 3: Like I go in and they're like, hey, what's up, girl, 586 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 3: Like they know my name, I know my face, Like 587 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 3: I tip them like crazy and they're just like, I'm like, 588 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 3: what are you doing at this store? Usually you're in 589 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 3: this town like when I drive through, you know the 590 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 3: town next to me or whatever, and like it's an 591 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 3: actual coffee shop experience. 592 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:29,479 Speaker 2: It is weird. 593 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 3: It is weird that like robots are now writing and 594 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 3: doing poetry where we're all working ourselves to the fucking. 595 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: Bone, And it's weird that Dunkin Donuts. 596 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,959 Speaker 3: Will give you a genuine coffee shop experience before an 597 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 3: actual fucking coffee shop. 598 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: Listen, you guys have like a full on relationship. They 599 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: gave you COVID you were able to work past. 600 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: It, yet through it. 601 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: You got through it. You're better people now, like I 602 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: don't blame you, look no shame. We've already said to 603 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: the Duncan corporate office, please sponsor this podcast. We will 604 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: do like collaborative merch with you, like one of us. 605 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: Like I need. 606 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 3: I understand you got affleck, I understand you're you're in 607 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 3: the big leagues. Now you got afflet to a commercials. 608 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 3: But but where your bread and butter? We are your 609 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 3: body and soul. We are the fucking day ones, So 610 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 3: please help us age into this fucking grumpy coffee era 611 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 3: of our lives. And I have a streamline system at home, 612 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 3: like I figured out a few years ago what actually 613 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 3: works for me. 614 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 2: I know what beans I like. 615 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 3: I have a French press so I can make the 616 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 3: exact amount because I drink a cup of coffee a day. 617 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 3: I have a French press. I have an electric kettle. 618 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 3: I have just those three things. And then I have 619 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 3: the like twelve cup drip big machine that I will 620 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,479 Speaker 3: use for company. But since I never have anyone at 621 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 3: my house, it just sits in a box in a 622 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 3: fucking cabinet. 623 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 2: Like that's it. 624 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 3: That's all I need is my little French press and 625 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 3: the five minutes a day it takes to make the 626 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 3: one cup of coffee I drink. And if I'm ever 627 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 3: out in the world, even at an airport, I'm like, 628 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be hungry and dehydrated because nobody has 629 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 3: a hustle anymore. 630 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: Nobody gives a shit. 631 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: Well, I wish I had that level of restraint to 632 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: only drink one cup of coffee, but I I should 633 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: start making it at home again. But sometimes I know, 634 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: you wander out into the world. 635 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 3: And you should be able to You should be able 636 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 3: to wander out into the world. But you know, I'm 637 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 3: stuck on one cup of coffee because you know I'm 638 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 3: doing this insane, Like my summer is just set up 639 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 3: for misery because I have I can't eat sugar for 640 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 3: the next three months because my doctor was like I 641 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 3: went in for my annual exam. My doctor was like, oh, no, 642 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 3: this is not the normal amount of sugar, Like your 643 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 3: levels are all weight. You're like a candy bar away 644 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 3: from diabetes. And I was like, oh, I don't eat 645 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 3: that much sugar's And I was running doing the rundown 646 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 3: of like what I eat for sugar e snacks during 647 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 3: the day, and I'm like, well, I have a cup 648 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 3: of coffee and I don't drink a lot. I have 649 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 3: a lot of sugar in my coffee, just like a 650 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 3: teaspoon or two. 651 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: And you know. 652 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 3: Then but then I'm like, oh, I do eatummy beer 653 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 3: every day, and I do eat take like orange ticktacs, 654 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 3: So like I was doing the rundown, and she's like, 655 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 3: you know how much sugar is in a bag of 656 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 3: gummy bears? And I'm like, of course, not bitch, of 657 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 3: course not yeah, and she's like, well, and then we 658 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 3: looked it up together, like I went and looked at 659 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 3: it on my phone and there's I guess. 660 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 2: I guess the average. 661 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 3: Human should have about twenty five grams of sugar a 662 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 3: day is healthy for like an adult, and there are 663 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 3: sixteen grams per serving and like nine servings in a 664 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 3: bag of gummy bears, So it's like three hundred percent 665 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 3: the amount of sugar you should be having. And for me, 666 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 3: of course, the serving size of any snack I have 667 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 3: is the fucking package it comes in, So I'm not 668 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 3: like saving three gummy bears for tomorrow, meeting all of it. 669 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 3: So I'm eating three hundred percent the amount of sugar 670 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 3: I should be eating on a daily basis through one 671 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 3: snack and that is not my only sugar snack throughout 672 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 3: the day. 673 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 2: So I was like, oh, yeah, you're right, I should. 674 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 3: She's like, why don't you just stop eating it for 675 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 3: like three months and see if we can get these 676 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 3: numbers down? 677 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, all right, that's solid. 678 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And like what I learned from the whole thirty 679 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: is that there are sugar and literally everything. There's sugar 680 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,479 Speaker 1: in everything, costa sauce, there's sugar and bacon and bread, 681 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: and like, I mean, it's crazy. So even if you're 682 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: like I'm not eating you know, actual junk food, but 683 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: I mean even just like during the day, you could 684 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: be eating more sugar. And trust me, I think we're 685 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: all on that mode. We all have to wash sugars. 686 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: I got the Beaties to my family, so I got 687 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: absolutely cute, so I. 688 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: Got to keep it cute. 689 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 3: But yeah, but that's why I don't go out a 690 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 3: lot to eat or you know, get coffee right now anyways, 691 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 3: because I'm like, oh, I literally can't because there's no 692 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 3: amount of telling how much sugar is in anything I'm 693 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 3: about to consume. So it makes me grumpy that I 694 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 3: have to be on this sugar free diet for three months, 695 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 3: and it also makes me grumpy that I can't enjoy 696 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 3: the one cup of coffee I have a day if 697 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 3: I leave my fucking house. 698 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: Well, look, what do you think about moving into our 699 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: theme right now? 700 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 3: I think we have to, and I think we have 701 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 3: to explain it because it's totally your idea. 702 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Actually, well there's gonna be a lot of asterisks 703 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: in the explanation. So our theme for this week is 704 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: spand exploitation. I would love to claimed that as my 705 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: original word, but I actually think my friend Ben came 706 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: up with the term, and I don't even know if 707 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: he came up with it. To be honest, we have 708 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: not sourced this at all, So do not get on 709 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: my case. Do not send me an article from nineteen 710 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,720 Speaker 1: sixty four where fucking gor Vidal said spand exploitation first 711 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: or something or whatever. 712 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 3: Like, I just we're too busy being grumpy about coffee. 713 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 2: To do any research this week. 714 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: We did no research, Yes, but whoever came up with it, 715 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: be it my friend or someone else from history, I 716 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: think it's like a perfect I think it's such a 717 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: perfect term and you know, the whole like blank exploitation thing. 718 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, just me being a cult 719 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: movie grump okay is a little overdone. But I actually 720 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: think span Exploitation is perfect because it is it's a 721 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: perfect meshing of the two words. Yeah, honestly, these two 722 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: films are the I would say, are the fillays. Yeah, 723 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: Span exploitation. 724 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 3: I completely agree. And why did you want to dig 725 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 3: into this topic? Like, what is it about the style 726 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 3: of movie that is appealing to you? 727 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: Well, it's like, first of all, it is such an 728 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,760 Speaker 1: absolute time and place, right we're talking about primarily movies 729 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: from like I would say the range would be this 730 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: is gracious, but maybe late seventies to late eighties perhaps, 731 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: But it's obviously about a style, an era of stretchy fabrics, 732 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 1: and it usually involves dance and or aerobics. And personally, 733 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: the span exploitation theme is a trojan horse to talk 734 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: about both of these movies anyway, because I feel like, yes, 735 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: there are both movies about eighties aerobics. Yes, it looks 736 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: ridiculous from modern eyes. However, I feel like at least 737 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 1: one of these movies is was incredibly maligned and maybe 738 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 1: shouldn't have been as much the other movie. And this 739 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: is all my opinion, by the way, the other movie 740 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: is absolute wonderful, perfect trash, and I totally love it. 741 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: I think both of these movies are enjoyable. And I 742 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 1: don't think that. I mean, there's an easy way to 743 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: be like, what a bunch of idiots? What a bunch 744 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: of crap? Like No, no, no, it's fun. It's fun and interesting. 745 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:45,240 Speaker 1: And your movie is an absolute fucking classic. 746 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 2: I mean, oh my god, so is yours. 747 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 3: Your Your movie has spawned a lot of gifts, Yes, 748 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 3: gifts if you're gonna be anal retentive about it. 749 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 2: And I also want to stay up top. 750 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 3: I don't think either of us have watched the Apple 751 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,959 Speaker 3: TV show Physical with Rose Byrne. That's about this era. 752 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 3: We just go right to the source, which is things 753 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 3: that were made in this era. Yes, of course it 754 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 3: might be great, but I didn't. I haven't watched it yet. 755 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: Well, and to be completely honest with you, too, like 756 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 1: your film and I know this because I've programmed your 757 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: film so many times on TCM or I used to work. 758 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: It is sorely out of print if you managed to 759 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: find it. I think I said in the last episode. 760 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: It was you'd have to go look to some places, 761 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 1: maybe on the Internet, or hopefully you have somebody that 762 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: has a copy of it. But it's I think this 763 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: movie would be a gift slash Jiff barn Burner if 764 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: it was available, if people could actually physically fucking see it, 765 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: it would break the internet. It's so good. 766 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 3: I don't even want to tell you what I had 767 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 3: to do to watch this movie this week, but it's 768 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 3: part of the reason why I'm fucking exhausted today. 769 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: I'll just think, oh no, no, it. 770 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 3: Took me like all week to figure out how to 771 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,959 Speaker 3: watch this fucking movie, but I did, and I will say, 772 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 3: hit up your local librarians, hit up the it's not local, 773 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 3: but I think in America at least, there's a general 774 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 3: system that most libraries use where you can rent films 775 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,760 Speaker 3: and you know, check out videos to try their first 776 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 3: and you might end up having to watch this movie 777 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 3: on FaceTime with somebody else who found a physical copy 778 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 3: of it, because that's how you were able to access it. 779 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 3: But it is I agree that it would be if 780 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 3: it were widely available. I think people would lose their 781 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:40,280 Speaker 3: fucking minds. In terms of like the TikTok reaction videos 782 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 3: that this film could produce. 783 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's hard to even describe because so 784 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: much of like what I think underground quote unquote movies 785 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: were to people of our generation doesn't really doesn't really 786 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 1: hold the same weight almost in this era because everything 787 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: is just so widely available. But I got to say, 788 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: I think your movie is truly one of the movies 789 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 1: that like is hard to find, is kind of an 790 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 1: underground film in a way. And I mean the fact 791 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: that you're even talking about it, I think is fucking incredible, 792 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: because I just I can't you're going first this week. 793 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: I cannot wait to hear your take. 794 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 3: I'm going to get right into it because my film 795 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 3: was released in nineteen eighty four. It was written by 796 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 3: Laurence Dane and Ron Bass. It was directed by Laurence Dane. 797 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 3: And my movie is Heavenly Bodies. 798 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 2: I'm challenging you through a competition in your class is 799 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 2: the best class. 800 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 3: And I will I will also say up top that 801 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 3: this movie is ninety percent song. It's ninety percent soundtrack. 802 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:50,399 Speaker 3: Off the top, so Heavenly Bodies. My one sentence synopsis is. 803 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 2: Let even get through this. 804 00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 3: My one sentence synopsis is imagine if your mom and 805 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 3: all of her friends in the eighties were inspired by 806 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 3: Flashdance to the point where they do a karate kids 807 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 3: style face off with a rival dance studio. 808 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 2: Because that is this film to a fucking tea. 809 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 3: And I'll also tell you up top that Laurence Dane, 810 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 3: who co wrote and directed this film, he was an 811 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 3: actor primarily. He acted in a ton of you know, 812 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 3: films and TV and he he was in Bride of Chucky. 813 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 3: He died last year, which is why I feel completely 814 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 3: fine saying that this is the only thing he ever directed, 815 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:41,879 Speaker 3: and that is a blessing for. 816 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 2: All of us. R Ip king, Rip King, RP. 817 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 3: One movie King, because holy shit, and the plot is insane, 818 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 3: is insane. 819 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 2: The story is all over the place. 820 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 3: It's basically a movie that's comprised of like thoughts and 821 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 3: clips that have been cobbled together into a janky narrative. 822 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 2: And I love it. 823 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 3: It is the very definition of like an underground CULTI film. 824 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 3: So the first five minutes of this film, the first 825 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 3: five minutes is two full songs. There's like one sentence 826 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 3: of dialogue, and you only know what's going on via 827 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 3: montage because since there are so many songs in this film, 828 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 3: if ninety percent of the film is songs, I think 829 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 3: a smooth eighty percent of the film is montage. Yes, 830 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 3: So you have all these two full songs play. 831 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 2: One of them is breaking out of Prison, which is 832 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 2: like the somehow the theme of this not even like 833 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 2: Heavenly Body. 834 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 3: I think couldn't even conquer up a song called Heavenly 835 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 3: Bodies to make like the theme. It's breaking out of Prison. 836 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 3: So they have these two montages. Then it's two minutes 837 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 3: of dialogue where you kind of get a gist of 838 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 3: what the plot is going to be, and then it's 839 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 3: an immediately into another montage. 840 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: Yes. 841 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,959 Speaker 3: So the plot of this film is basically, this woman, 842 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 3: Samantha and two of her friends are so into dancer 843 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:10,879 Speaker 3: size that they decide to rent to Lisa Building and 844 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,760 Speaker 3: kind of create their own studio. So they're working office 845 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 3: jobs and they're doing their thing, but they this is 846 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 3: their dream. This is the dream for them. And so 847 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 3: the plot of I say the plot, but the plot 848 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 3: kind of shifts so much. So it's part that they're 849 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 3: just looking to lease this building and do a dancer 850 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 3: size class. The other part is that Samantha is a 851 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 3: single mom who hasn't been. 852 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:33,720 Speaker 2: Laid in a long time. 853 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 3: And then the other part is this like karate Kid 854 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 3: face off with another local dance studio. So there's a 855 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 3: lot of plots going on throughout the field, but it 856 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 3: is fucking incredible. So they go so they find this 857 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 3: abandoned building for lease and they clean it up and 858 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 3: they open this dancer size studio and the studio is 859 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 3: called Heavenly Bodies. 860 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 2: I personally think that the. 861 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 3: Dancer size trend ended in the eighties because the dances 862 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 3: that you're dancing to were all created by white people 863 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 3: and they looked fucking nuts. 864 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: Yes, so well, this is something that I actually should 865 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: have maybe asked you at at the beginning of the theme, 866 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 1: have you ever taken at aerobics class? 867 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 3: I tried a step class once and I almost broke 868 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 3: both of my fucking ankles. I tried one step class 869 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 3: and one zoomba class, and I was like, this is 870 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:30,839 Speaker 3: not none of this is for me. This is why 871 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,280 Speaker 3: I can only do rage workouts from now on, because 872 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 3: none of this is for me. I am not gifted 873 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 3: enough to be able to watch someone at the front 874 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 3: of a room going fucking ham looking like they're about 875 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 3: to dislocate their shoulders from their bodies, from their body 876 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,800 Speaker 3: and still make my body do anything. 877 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 2: I just I can't do it. 878 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, well listen, I mean this is this is It's 879 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: interesting because I'm the opposite. I have taken a lot 880 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,439 Speaker 1: of aerobics classes. I have taken jazzer side. You don't 881 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 1: understand like I was a as I've gone on record 882 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: and saying I was a chunky monkey when I was 883 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 1: a little girl, and I was forced to and this 884 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 1: was the eighties, so of course I was forced into 885 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 1: these like weird like it was like weight watchers slash 886 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: Aeropa size slash gym class like aerobic stuff. I had 887 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: to do the Jane Fond to work out every day after. 888 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:24,879 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 889 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 1: Oh so I am well versed in class and I 890 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:33,360 Speaker 1: take dance classes now. Yeah, but Heavenly Bodies is this 891 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 1: whole other level because first of all, in the movie 892 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: they say, oh, this is just an inclusive place where 893 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,800 Speaker 1: everybody can come take classes. Yet everybody in Heavenly Bodies 894 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 1: is a professional dancer with a perfect body. 895 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 2: Like ballet dancing. 896 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 3: Right, They're doing like like, oh I just got off 897 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 3: the Geoffrey Ballet Tour and now I'm in your class, 898 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,439 Speaker 3: which is also when it's like to take a dance class. 899 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:57,839 Speaker 2: In la based on what you have told us. 900 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean you're like, oh, here's all Britney Spears's 901 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 3: backup dancers, and. 902 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: Me absolutely like, just imagine the sequence from all that jazz, 903 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 1: and then there's me. I'm the like, dark haired guy 904 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 1: that doesn't know what he's doing. And that has been 905 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: me my entire life in any aerobics, jazz or size 906 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,760 Speaker 1: dance glass. 907 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,840 Speaker 3: And it shouldn't, especially in the eighties, it should not 908 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 3: have been that way because here, let me just give 909 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,879 Speaker 3: you a gist of what some of these dances look 910 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 3: like or what I have decided to call them, because 911 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 3: they are so bonkers. 912 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 2: And again I think this is why the trend ended. 913 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,840 Speaker 3: You can do something called like a backwards hip thrusting 914 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 3: crab walk, where you kind of push yourself across the 915 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 3: floor on your shoulders while your crotches. 916 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 2: In the air, which anyone should be able to do. 917 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 3: There's my favorite, which I think is in both of 918 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 3: our films frequently, which I just call I'm a little teapot. 919 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 3: There's just a lot of like back and forth shoulder 920 00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 3: action from the hip. You have the awkward gera and 921 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 3: my all time fave little kid having a fit. Like 922 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,919 Speaker 3: that's what this looks like to me when I'm watching 923 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 3: these people do these dances. It's not like the hip 924 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 3: hop classes or like the you know, kind of more 925 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 3: stylized classes that we see now. It's truly just people 926 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 3: having a physical fucking fit with their bodies as a 927 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 3: way to get their heart rate up. So anyone should 928 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 3: be able to do it, but somehow it's just like 929 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 3: you have to be a professional dancer to even cross 930 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 3: the threshold. 931 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 1: That crab walk thing. I mean, I think that that 932 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,399 Speaker 1: technically happens in my movie, where basically there's like it's 933 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 1: basically the part of Showgirls where Nomi Malone and the 934 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 1: guys you like thrust it, thrust it. It's like that 935 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 1: thing where you're basically like back on the ground, you're 936 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: doing that like glute bridge thing, and you're just like 937 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 1: pumping in the air, and I'm like, I imagine me 938 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 1: being eleven years old watching the Jane fond Of workout 939 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 1: video doing that move, and it happens. It happens in 940 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 1: my movie for sure, And I think there's like maybe 941 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 1: a variation happens in your movie, but it's the same concept. 942 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,879 Speaker 3: And that is like the larger point that I think 943 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 3: is important about both of our films, and it does 944 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 3: come through in two particular scenes dancer size Jazz or size. 945 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 2: Aerobics, wherever you want to call it. 946 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 3: It's basically your fucking mid air is what they should 947 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 3: have been called. Come to our class and fuck the 948 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 3: air because every move is like overly sexual in a way, 949 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 3: it does not have to be in order for you 950 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 3: to get a workout. 951 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: Yes, that is there. I will talk about this, I 952 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 1: think maybe and when it's my turn to go. But 953 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot of that like aerobic influence, sexual energy 954 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 1: vibe in both these ones, and I'm like, what the 955 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: fuck is going on? Like can you imagine that now? 956 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,880 Speaker 1: Like can you imagine going to like crunch fitness and 957 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 1: then you're just covered in sweat on the elliptical and 958 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,839 Speaker 1: then you just like look over on a guy and 959 00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: he's like fucking put you know, picking up a kettlebell, 960 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,400 Speaker 1: and you guys just like stare at each other like evengerly. 961 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 3: Imagine you're taking, like I don't know, a yoga class 962 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 3: and the instructors at the front of the room just 963 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,840 Speaker 3: making intense eye contact with you the entire forty minutes. 964 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 3: Well they're like bending their body or are just not 965 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 3: breaking eye contact at all, because that is in both 966 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 3: of our films as well. 967 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 1: I know, I mean this this eighty eighty four, eighty 968 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 1: eighty five was the apparently there was not the age 969 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 1: of lawsuit because this is like, it's insane how much 970 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,760 Speaker 1: it happens in both these films, especially yours. 971 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god. 972 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 3: This is what happens when you have a group of people, 973 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 3: like a wide swath of the population who's just high 974 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,360 Speaker 3: on cocaine and has not heard yet about the AIDS epidemic. 975 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 2: This is what comes out of. 976 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,320 Speaker 3: That, Oh absolutely, which they've never heard of an STI 977 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 3: and they just eye on cocaine all the time. 978 00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 2: And I swear to god, this movie was financed by 979 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 2: Cook in my opinion. 980 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 3: Also, what you need to know about Samantha as a 981 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 3: single mother before we get deep into this this plot 982 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 3: of dancera Size and Rival Studios. When you first meet 983 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 3: Samantha's child and realize that she's a single mother, it's 984 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,919 Speaker 3: like the whole every scene looks like the camera lens 985 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 3: was coated in basoline, so it looks like she's having 986 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 3: like a fever dream or like she's in a like 987 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,839 Speaker 3: a coffeerup commercial. And this little kid's next to her 988 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,760 Speaker 3: reading a book and then he looks at her. He goes, mom, 989 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:40,239 Speaker 3: what is an orgies? And she fucking tells him. She's like, 990 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,799 Speaker 3: remember when I told you that when a man and 991 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 3: woman love each other very much? It's like that but 992 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 3: without love. And I'm like, one that is not an orgy. 993 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 3: And he keeps going, He's like, do you have an orgies? 994 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 2: Mom? And I'm like, you need to get this. 995 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 3: This is like now in my brain forever, and I 996 00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 3: can't handle this. This kid is so wildly and he's 997 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,359 Speaker 3: just asking his mom about orgies and she's telling him. 998 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,280 Speaker 2: And that is the eighties in a fucking nutshell where. 999 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 3: Parents are like, I'm too exhausted to protect you from 1000 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 3: the world. 1001 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 2: Here's all the information you need to know. Good luck 1002 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,360 Speaker 2: explaining this to your kindergarten class. 1003 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 1: Exactly. Oh my god. I mean, this kid is probably 1004 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 1: maybe this is his first movie and the first line 1005 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 1: of his Hollywood career is, mom, what was an orgies? 1006 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,879 Speaker 2: Plural plural? That's how young he is. He doesn't even 1007 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 2: know how to like. 1008 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,240 Speaker 3: And also he's just he's clearly just reading a romance 1009 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,480 Speaker 3: book while she's dead asleep, and she's like yeah, yeah, yeah, 1010 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 3: Like I'm mom's tired from doing all these fucking aerobics 1011 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:37,799 Speaker 3: and working full time. 1012 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,760 Speaker 2: You just read this romance novel. 1013 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 1: It's those unsupervised kids of the eighties. I swear to god, 1014 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 1: we talk about it all the time. I'm like, truly, 1015 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 1: these are not the kids in the coffee shop microdosing. 1016 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 1: This is like a whole new This like basically neglected 1017 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:54,320 Speaker 1: children that were left to their own devices reading sex 1018 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 1: novels from the grocery store. 1019 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 2: These are feral neglected children. 1020 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 3: And I feel like we all had that experience in 1021 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,400 Speaker 3: the eighties where like someone would just suddenly show up 1022 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 3: to like the playground or if you were playing in 1023 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 3: the backyard, and they like pull a book out of 1024 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 3: their fucking backpack and be like I found this in 1025 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 3: my mom's room and it's like the fucking commas they 1026 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,799 Speaker 3: illustrated Kama Sutra or whatever I know, and we're all 1027 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 3: just reading it like last Tuesday afternoon at three o'clock 1028 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 3: or I'll just looking at the Kama Sutra like. 1029 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,720 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, it's like that's why I was reading flowers 1030 00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 1: in the attic when I was like eleven years old. 1031 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 2: It's how we learned. 1032 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 3: It was our true education, which is people finding shit 1033 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,359 Speaker 3: in their parents' room. I had a friend who found 1034 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,160 Speaker 3: a pair of crossless underwear in her mom's drawer. 1035 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 2: She took it. 1036 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,879 Speaker 3: She took it and showed all of us, Oh my god, 1037 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 3: and I'm like, well, now I know your mom's. 1038 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 2: A straight freak. 1039 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,240 Speaker 3: Like great, I don't even know what any of this means. 1040 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 3: I'm seven. Why does this underwear not have a crosh in? 1041 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 3: It isn't that the whole point of underwear? And now 1042 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,480 Speaker 3: I have to have this in my brain. And I 1043 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,880 Speaker 3: know way too much about your mom and dad's sex life. 1044 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 2: Holy shit, it was a wild time. So Orgi's kid. 1045 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 3: We finally catch on like, oh, this is her son 1046 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,840 Speaker 3: and like she loves him whatever, but like that's his 1047 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 3: whole vibe. Is like he pops up to remind us 1048 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:16,839 Speaker 3: that she has a lot going on. 1049 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,400 Speaker 2: Right well, she also has going on? Is that someone 1050 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 2: asks her? 1051 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,760 Speaker 3: Because even though she has two coners for this studio, 1052 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 3: we rarely see them they're always in the class, but 1053 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 3: they're never like leading anything. And so this person asks 1054 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 3: her to like lead an aerobics class for a group 1055 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,400 Speaker 3: of football players. We don't know why because they just 1056 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 3: show a meeting where he's like, don't let this one 1057 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 3: give you any guff And then she's just in a 1058 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 3: room full of like jacked up men doing aerobics and 1059 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 3: making fun of it. And one of the guys that 1060 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,799 Speaker 3: makes fun of it the hardest is Steve, and he's 1061 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 3: the love interest. And Steve and Samantha start this kind 1062 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 3: of flirtation through telegram. 1063 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 2: Which good god the eighties. 1064 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 3: So he sends her like a gorilla, a gorilla telegram 1065 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,839 Speaker 3: where someone comes dressed gorilla gram Yeah, like someone comes 1066 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,399 Speaker 3: dressed as a gorilla, and he like asks her out. 1067 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,800 Speaker 3: She sends him back a stripogram in her own class 1068 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 3: where there's like a full like naked strip tease happening, 1069 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:25,440 Speaker 3: and then the message just says no, which is hilarious. 1070 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 2: Then he sends her balloons. 1071 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,440 Speaker 3: And he's like, if you want to go on a 1072 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,720 Speaker 3: date with me, release these balloons off the balcony. 1073 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 2: If the answer is yes, it's. 1074 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 3: Like so convoluted, it's like just fuck the planet, kill 1075 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,759 Speaker 3: some birds, go on a date with me, release all 1076 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,399 Speaker 3: these goddamn balloons into the fucking air. And then when 1077 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 3: she finally says yes, all he does is like he 1078 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 3: just barges in and cooks them dinner. 1079 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, he makes for their first date. 1080 00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 3: He makes piogies, which, let's be honest, is a dream 1081 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 3: come true. If it were not a date scenario. If 1082 00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,359 Speaker 3: anyone just showed up at my house with a bag 1083 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,920 Speaker 3: of groceries, it was like, I'm making you parobis fucking 1084 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:07,319 Speaker 3: dream come true. But not in this like meathead date 1085 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,560 Speaker 3: scenario where my young child. 1086 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 2: Is also here. Now I'm injured. This is the other thing. 1087 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 3: It's like eighties parents would get their kids in the 1088 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 3: path of direct danger if it meant they could have 1089 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:18,439 Speaker 3: a meal or get laid. 1090 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 2: Yes, So like, here's this stranger cooking in our house. 1091 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:23,439 Speaker 2: I'm gonna fuck him. 1092 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,759 Speaker 3: I hope you like the meal, because now he's in 1093 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 3: our life and I don't know a goddamn thing about you. Yeah. 1094 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 1: All I remember about my stepdad was that he came 1095 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,919 Speaker 1: the first night to make perogis for all. 1096 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,880 Speaker 2: Of us, and then Steve was just always around after that. 1097 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,560 Speaker 1: They had they set each other telegrams for a couple months. 1098 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 1: Then we had to let off a bunch of balloons. 1099 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 1: Then Parogis happened, and now he's like surrounding me for 1100 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 1: staying out too late. 1101 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,759 Speaker 3: Now he's at my high school graduation and refusing to 1102 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 3: pay for college because. 1103 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:00,759 Speaker 2: I'm not real kid. 1104 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 1: Yes. 1105 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,080 Speaker 3: Also, this all happens within the first thirty minutes of 1106 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,880 Speaker 3: the film. It's like four songs, a convoluted romance, a 1107 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 3: child like It all happens in the first thirty minutes. 1108 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Steve is like a da List kind of 1109 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,800 Speaker 1: Bill Pullman type. If you just want to get a picture, 1110 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,280 Speaker 1: Yes of it perfect. 1111 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 3: That is a perfect description. And he kind of he 1112 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,400 Speaker 3: talks in like one word sentences. The dialogue in this 1113 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 3: film is not great, as you can imagine, but it 1114 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,919 Speaker 3: is hilarious. Yeah, and he just kind of is always. 1115 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 2: Like, oh look, huh huh, I'm gonna cook you dinner. 1116 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 3: Huh what, Like he's just very he's not really really 1117 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:43,120 Speaker 3: present in the role. Yeah, but this all happens in 1118 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 3: the first thirty minutes. Then you have this this moment 1119 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,000 Speaker 3: where everything's starting to look up for Samantha, right, so 1120 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 3: she gets casts, she goes to this casting session for 1121 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 3: a TV show where she's gonna have her own aerobics 1122 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,760 Speaker 3: TV show, and they pick off a bunch of people 1123 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 3: all that jazz style. But that's where we get to 1124 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,720 Speaker 3: meet her rival, Shoulders McGee, who her name is Debbie, 1125 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,920 Speaker 3: but she is all fucking shoulders when she's doing her 1126 00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,319 Speaker 3: workout and she works at the rival fitness center which 1127 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:14,799 Speaker 3: is called Jack Pearson's Sporting Life, yes full name, and 1128 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,480 Speaker 3: she's pissed. Shoulders is pissed that she doesn't get this 1129 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 3: fucking gig. She's like, this is a lock. Jack told me, 1130 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 3: I got it. 1131 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 2: I'm in. But they pick Samantha. 1132 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 3: And there's a kind of a similar scene in Perfect 1133 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 3: where like after she gets this job and she's so jazz, 1134 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 3: she like decides to have sex with Steve, and it's 1135 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:36,560 Speaker 3: like cutting scenes between like soft porn vasiline lens and 1136 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,720 Speaker 3: aerobics where they're just staring at each other. 1137 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,280 Speaker 2: And there's one point where he's in the class. 1138 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,240 Speaker 3: He's not even moving, he's just staring at her working 1139 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 3: out and like thinking about the sex they had. 1140 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:47,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hilarious. 1141 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 1: There's and there's like there's scenes of them like having 1142 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 1: like it's like this weird like they're both in like 1143 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:57,240 Speaker 1: a they're both wet, like they're just like dripping when water. 1144 00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,280 Speaker 1: It's like, are they like fucking in the steam room 1145 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,760 Speaker 1: at Heavenly Bodies? Is there a steamer room at Heavenly Bodies? Also? 1146 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 1: What a discussing place to have sex? Like the steam 1147 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:13,520 Speaker 1: room is filled with germs as a public place. Gross? 1148 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 3: Uh, the bacteria alone just even touching it, let alone 1149 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 3: letting it enter you through all these various means. 1150 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,400 Speaker 2: The eighties were fucking disgusting for so many reasons. Yes, 1151 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 2: so gross. 1152 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,680 Speaker 3: So Samantha gets the job and she freaks out. Everything's 1153 00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,840 Speaker 3: coming up, Samantha, she got this great guy, like her 1154 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,760 Speaker 3: kids reading maybe more age appropriate books, we don't know, 1155 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 3: and her dance studio is going okay. But then because 1156 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,840 Speaker 3: Shoulders is on the case and she's pissed. And now 1157 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,720 Speaker 3: Samantha's also getting friendly with Jack, not in a sexy way, 1158 00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 3: but in like an eighties professional day night Barbie kind 1159 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,840 Speaker 3: of way where it's like I'm gonna flirt like we're 1160 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:57,120 Speaker 3: a professional, but I'm also sexy. And she goes she 1161 00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:02,680 Speaker 3: goes to see the the TV studio and there's a 1162 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,040 Speaker 3: dance montage and she's like it includes a ladder on 1163 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 3: wheels that she's still somehow doing aerobics on top of 1164 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,480 Speaker 3: a ladder on wheels and like scooting around the fucking studio. 1165 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 3: And then all the gross camera men are like yay, 1166 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 3: and she's like, oh, I didn't know you were here 1167 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 3: and just. 1168 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 1: Crab walking around with the ladder. 1169 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,920 Speaker 2: I was just try humping this ladder. I didn't know 1170 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 2: anybody was here. 1171 00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,840 Speaker 3: So everything's going great for a while, but then shit 1172 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 3: starts to hit the fan. So first and foremost, Steve, 1173 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 3: who was already like a marginal just a marginally decent 1174 00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:43,440 Speaker 3: football player, now wants to open a restaurant in Chicago. 1175 00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,960 Speaker 3: So he's leaving Canada and going this is a Canadian film. 1176 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 3: He's leaving Canada and going to Chicago, and he gives 1177 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 3: Samantha an ultimatum on the back of his like Chicago 1178 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 3: Perogi restaurant, where he's like, you're the only reason I'm 1179 00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,000 Speaker 3: even doing this, like you were my inspiration. She's like, 1180 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 3: I can't leave my whole life here. He's like, well, 1181 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,160 Speaker 3: the fuck this shit man? I made you parogis? 1182 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 2: Does that mean nothing? 1183 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? Steve's like the bear, the bear on effects, like 1184 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 1: he's like a fucking trying to make these sandwiches happen, 1185 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,440 Speaker 1: these parogies happen, And she's just like no. 1186 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:22,800 Speaker 2: She's like, I'm not about that fucking life. I'm not 1187 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,880 Speaker 2: giving up dancer size for parogi's. This is the eighties. 1188 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:27,000 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? 1189 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 3: Man, who would make such a foolish decision. I'm on TV, man, 1190 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 3: you're gonna put I'm not. 1191 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:37,680 Speaker 2: Giving this shit up. 1192 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,240 Speaker 3: So she's now like conflicted, like, oh my god, I'm 1193 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,400 Speaker 3: gonna lose this the one dude I've had sex with 1194 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,560 Speaker 3: in the last whatever however many years and this, but 1195 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 3: of course this launches another mournful, lonely dance montage scene 1196 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,320 Speaker 3: in front of like the big arched windows, like flash 1197 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:58,160 Speaker 3: dance style, and she calls she tries to call him, 1198 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,919 Speaker 3: and another woman answers the phone and she just hangs up. 1199 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,840 Speaker 3: And her her response to that, like the idea that 1200 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,160 Speaker 3: he could have another woman in his room or in 1201 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,320 Speaker 3: his orbit or whatever, because let's face it, it could have 1202 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 3: been his fucking mom, it could have been his manager. 1203 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 2: She didn't hang around long. 1204 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:17,920 Speaker 3: Enough to ask Magda, I mean exactly exact, thank you, 1205 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,000 Speaker 3: and she just hangs up. It could have been his 1206 01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,480 Speaker 3: like fucking tutor, because Steve is not working with a 1207 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:26,240 Speaker 3: full deck, so he probably had some help somewhere along 1208 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:31,040 Speaker 3: the way. And she takes her kid to the beach 1209 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,440 Speaker 3: and lets him like roll around with a wagon so 1210 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 3: she can stand on a bunch of rocks looking at 1211 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 3: the sea like a fucking Nestley commercial like her like 1212 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,120 Speaker 3: everything's floating and blowing and her kid could be like 1213 01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,120 Speaker 3: literally drowning. He's like in nothing but wool head to toe, 1214 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,640 Speaker 3: like a big fucking buffy winter jacket on the fucking 1215 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,480 Speaker 3: edge of the ocean. And she's like, oh but Steve, 1216 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,240 Speaker 3: Steve in those perogis what the fuck man? Did I 1217 01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:01,080 Speaker 3: make the right decision? It's goddamn hilarious. So then after 1218 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,800 Speaker 3: this moment, we have the high, you know, we peak. 1219 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,920 Speaker 3: Santha's life is peaked, and then we go into a 1220 01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,680 Speaker 3: roller coaster downfall. Steve is gone, no more Perogi dinners, 1221 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,320 Speaker 3: her kid isn't asking her about orgies anymore, and now 1222 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,920 Speaker 3: Jack Pearson is buying the fucking building that they have 1223 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,600 Speaker 3: heavenly bodies in that they were hoping to buy and 1224 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:25,360 Speaker 3: earn enough money to buy one day, so all hell 1225 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,400 Speaker 3: is breaking loose. Samantha's doing her fucking TV show, her 1226 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:29,920 Speaker 3: workout TV show. 1227 01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 2: And she just stops. 1228 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,880 Speaker 3: Also, it's live for some reason, it's a live workout show. 1229 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, this was like a body by Jake scenario. I 1230 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,200 Speaker 1: don't think they do this anymore because TV is completely 1231 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,760 Speaker 1: it's been taken over by AI, but it's They used 1232 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,560 Speaker 1: to have workout shows that come on in the morning, 1233 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 1: and I used to come on ESPN, Like I remember 1234 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:55,920 Speaker 1: when I was a kid because shows me. My mom 1235 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,160 Speaker 1: was like, do the research and find out every place 1236 01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,240 Speaker 1: where you can take a virtual workout on t ME 1237 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,280 Speaker 1: and they used to show it on ESPEN like what 1238 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:10,600 Speaker 1: was that woman, Denise Denise Austin. Yes, Denise Austin bodied 1239 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,200 Speaker 1: by Jake and it would just by ye. 1240 01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,920 Speaker 2: That's how I discovered yoga. Rodney E was his fucking package. 1241 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,680 Speaker 3: Was out every day doing yoga, and I'm like, why 1242 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:23,760 Speaker 3: is this man's dick on CNN right now? Like I 1243 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,640 Speaker 3: know him up a little bit early, but I didn't 1244 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,400 Speaker 3: realize that at six am, CNN was like, let's get 1245 01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:32,160 Speaker 3: this fucking yoga met with this dick out here. He 1246 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,480 Speaker 3: always he always had yoga and like speedos it was 1247 01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,200 Speaker 3: fucking great. He's great yoga instructor, but that was always 1248 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:38,160 Speaker 3: very jarring to me. 1249 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:39,880 Speaker 1: God, I missed that ship. They should bring that. 1250 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 2: I know, I know. 1251 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,680 Speaker 3: But so she but she's got this live workout show 1252 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:47,160 Speaker 3: and her producer is like you would think that the 1253 01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 3: producer was like on net, like she was producing network 1254 01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:51,680 Speaker 3: or something, because she was just. 1255 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,840 Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, this is great. It's live TV. 1256 01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,680 Speaker 3: And like all she's doing is like I'm a little teapot, 1257 01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,800 Speaker 3: but this producer is into it. So she stops the 1258 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:04,160 Speaker 3: fucking production one day and is like, I'm mad because 1259 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:08,360 Speaker 3: Sporting Life is trying to fuck us up. And then 1260 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,919 Speaker 3: she goes, I feel like a warm down anybody else, 1261 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 3: She like raises her arms to the ceiling of this 1262 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,200 Speaker 3: big arc and everyone's clapping. It's just fucking great. But 1263 01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,880 Speaker 3: basically on air live she challenges Sporting Life to a 1264 01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:25,960 Speaker 3: workout marathon and if Heavenly Bodies wins, they get to 1265 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,080 Speaker 3: buy the building. So what is the workout marathon? You ask, 1266 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,120 Speaker 3: because I'm not going to ruin this. I mean I could, 1267 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:32,960 Speaker 3: but I'm not gonna. 1268 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,160 Speaker 2: Ruin the end of it. If you've made it this far, 1269 01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:35,680 Speaker 2: you deserve to see the end of this film. 1270 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,240 Speaker 3: A workout marathon is where you get everyone who works 1271 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 3: in your building or who likes to do jazzer size 1272 01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,040 Speaker 3: or dancer size, anyone that you can gather to be 1273 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,120 Speaker 3: on your team, and then you face the other team 1274 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,560 Speaker 3: in a big studio and you just fucking work out 1275 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:54,960 Speaker 3: until they start dropping life flies. 1276 01:04:55,480 --> 01:05:00,000 Speaker 2: People are like pukin'. They're like pissing themselves. 1277 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:04,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like they shoot horses, don't they except aerobics. 1278 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:15,560 Speaker 1: These people are dead in their leitards because they want 1279 01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:16,400 Speaker 1: a building. 1280 01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:21,680 Speaker 3: They are hip thrust into fucking death. They want this 1281 01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,840 Speaker 3: white lady to get this goddamn building if it's the 1282 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,880 Speaker 3: last thing she ever does. Like maybe if she owned 1283 01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:29,720 Speaker 3: this building, she could spend some time at home with 1284 01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,920 Speaker 3: her kid, teaching him about not orgies. 1285 01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 1: Yes, she wouldn't be on the rock doing the fucking 1286 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:45,360 Speaker 1: sweet dreams a maide of this. Yes, yes, yes, creamy 1287 01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,720 Speaker 1: white dreaming. 1288 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:57,760 Speaker 2: What dreams? You can't resist? Eddi Estlius. 1289 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,200 Speaker 1: You gonna have to drop that shit in the fucking 1290 01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:02,840 Speaker 1: I mean. 1291 01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,280 Speaker 2: No, leave us in. We don't need that commercial. We 1292 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,120 Speaker 2: just did it perfectly. We just fucking nailed it. 1293 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,240 Speaker 1: Ah. 1294 01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:16,840 Speaker 2: Oh shit, So she is dancing her goddamn heart out. 1295 01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:17,400 Speaker 2: She's hurt. 1296 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,240 Speaker 3: Like there's a part where like Jack comes in and 1297 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,400 Speaker 3: like throws her against a wall, and like she has 1298 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:22,600 Speaker 3: a little bruise on her leg. 1299 01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:23,880 Speaker 2: And she's like, I know if I can make it. 1300 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,080 Speaker 2: But it is like fucking Mayhem in this scene. It 1301 01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,760 Speaker 2: is Mayhem. I've never seen a workout marathon before. 1302 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,160 Speaker 3: I watched this movie for the first time years ago, 1303 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,920 Speaker 3: and it is the most hilarious thing I've ever seen. 1304 01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:41,160 Speaker 3: It is just again, this is a perfect, perfect underground 1305 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:42,240 Speaker 3: cult kind of movie. 1306 01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:43,840 Speaker 2: It deserves to be seen. 1307 01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,120 Speaker 3: If you can find it again, check your library's first 1308 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:51,040 Speaker 3: check online. But it is just it is just hilarious 1309 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,000 Speaker 3: and it's not supposed to be, but that's what makes 1310 01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:56,760 Speaker 3: it great. And it is just such a moment, such 1311 01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:03,080 Speaker 3: a disgusting eighties coke fueled, sex fueled moment that we 1312 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,880 Speaker 3: will never again see in our cultural history. And I'm 1313 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,760 Speaker 3: we're blessed for that, but we're also blessed to have this. 1314 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:13,720 Speaker 1: Yes, this movie is a blessing. As you just said, 1315 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,520 Speaker 1: I mean it is. It delivers on exactly what it's 1316 01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,280 Speaker 1: telling you it's gonna do. It's like this is a 1317 01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:22,360 Speaker 1: movie about fucking aerobics, and it hits all the marks. 1318 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,880 Speaker 1: It is so tied up in some like legal mumbo jumbo. 1319 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,040 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of it is the music, 1320 01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,000 Speaker 1: because the music in this movie, I think like a 1321 01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:34,520 Speaker 1: lot of people I think would know the soundtrack. I 1322 01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,640 Speaker 1: think maybe even more than the film. And I'm not 1323 01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:38,960 Speaker 1: saying a lot of people. A lot of people don't 1324 01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,560 Speaker 1: even know this movie at all, but you know, like 1325 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,920 Speaker 1: there's a Bonnie Pointer song in it, there's like some 1326 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,000 Speaker 1: other stuff, and I feel like, you know, we've talked 1327 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,000 Speaker 1: about this music is complicated, and when you're trying to 1328 01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,520 Speaker 1: bring movies back, it's you got to figure out who 1329 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:53,800 Speaker 1: owns things and you got to pay people money for things. 1330 01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:57,680 Speaker 1: And so hopefully it gets worked out, because it is 1331 01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:01,720 Speaker 1: a crime that this movie is not available widely like 1332 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:02,080 Speaker 1: it is. 1333 01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:06,160 Speaker 2: It is so fun it truly is. It is so funny. 1334 01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:07,680 Speaker 3: This is the kind of movie where like if you 1335 01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,200 Speaker 3: had a party and just wanted to laugh and have 1336 01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,120 Speaker 3: a good time with people, like this is the movie 1337 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:12,720 Speaker 3: you had put on. 1338 01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:17,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Like I mean, I'm very wary of like people 1339 01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,719 Speaker 1: who like want to mst three K things in public, 1340 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,080 Speaker 1: like when they're at the movies, watching like movies like this, 1341 01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:26,200 Speaker 1: but I mean, honestly, like I would be screaming if 1342 01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,799 Speaker 1: I saw this in the movie theater alongside my friends 1343 01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,200 Speaker 1: and it was like a fun time, I'd be scream laughing, 1344 01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:35,400 Speaker 1: like it's just it's such a fun, fun film and. 1345 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,800 Speaker 3: Completely and I'm glad that I only saw this even 1346 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:41,120 Speaker 3: I think even before we were friends. 1347 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:42,959 Speaker 2: I only saw this because it was on TCM. 1348 01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:46,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, not to toute my own horn or anything, 1349 01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,720 Speaker 1: but uh yeah, I feel like I put it on 1350 01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:55,680 Speaker 1: the on the TV and then maybe people have recorded it, 1351 01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,320 Speaker 1: put recorded it to VHS. 1352 01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,479 Speaker 2: On it and then transmitted to digital and then transfer it. 1353 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:07,960 Speaker 1: Into because I was like, I mean, this movie is incredible, Like, 1354 01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:11,040 Speaker 1: don't keep this to yourself if you if you have 1355 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,480 Speaker 1: the opportunity to put it out there. But anyway, I 1356 01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:18,439 Speaker 1: it is absolutely to me the number one film of 1357 01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:22,160 Speaker 1: for the theme Spanish. Absolutely like couldn't have picked anything better. 1358 01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,320 Speaker 3: Well, yours is also a banger for so many different 1359 01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,160 Speaker 3: reasons it is. 1360 01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,080 Speaker 1: And it's like the thing about my movie that's different 1361 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,559 Speaker 1: is that it's trying to be like a real movie, 1362 01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:35,720 Speaker 1: which I actually think it. 1363 01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,240 Speaker 3: Sort of does it kind of has like like a 1364 01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 3: Nixonian plot. 1365 01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 2: Built into all the exercise. It's great. 1366 01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:50,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, So look my movie for the theme, Span Exploitation, 1367 01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,599 Speaker 1: is a movie from nineteen eighty five. It was written 1368 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:57,120 Speaker 1: by Aaron Latham and James Bridges, directed by James Bridges, 1369 01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:03,800 Speaker 1: and it's called Perfect. 1370 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:05,400 Speaker 2: Edward subject you're forgetting something oncetec. 1371 01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:08,479 Speaker 1: The come down we have to have from Heavenly Bodies. 1372 01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,760 Speaker 1: So if you listen to our episode about Urban Cowboy 1373 01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,479 Speaker 1: a few months ago, like you will be delighted to 1374 01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:22,600 Speaker 1: know that Perfect is essentially the team that brought you 1375 01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:28,120 Speaker 1: Urban Cowboy. It is the director James Bridges, the writer 1376 01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:33,200 Speaker 1: journalist Aaron Latham, and of course the star John Travolta. 1377 01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:39,559 Speaker 1: And very similarly to Urban Cowboy, Perfect also comes from 1378 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:43,759 Speaker 1: articles that Aaron Latham wrote where he sort of embedded 1379 01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,679 Speaker 1: himself into like a scene, right, So like in Urban 1380 01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:48,960 Speaker 1: Cowboy it was that kind of like hockey tonk scene, 1381 01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,040 Speaker 1: and then in Perfect, it's all about that kind of 1382 01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:55,200 Speaker 1: health club scene that was popping up in the late 1383 01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,960 Speaker 1: seventies early eighties. And it's funny because we just talked 1384 01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:02,479 Speaker 1: about this, so I have and honestly it's not reflected 1385 01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:04,320 Speaker 1: in the way that I look obviously, But I've been 1386 01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,680 Speaker 1: going to gym's my entire life pretty much like I 1387 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,599 Speaker 1: my parents were really into gym's when I was a kid, 1388 01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,799 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I go to gyms now of course, 1389 01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,439 Speaker 1: But like, I guess I just didn't realize that the 1390 01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:21,439 Speaker 1: concept of a gym wasn't really like finely tuned until 1391 01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,639 Speaker 1: like this era, like the eighties was the gym era. 1392 01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, before that, it was all like like hang 1393 01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:29,200 Speaker 2: a rope from a ceiling and get a fucking medicine ball. 1394 01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:29,840 Speaker 2: That's your gym. 1395 01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,080 Speaker 1: Yes, I was that, dude, I was. I was trying 1396 01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:35,519 Speaker 1: to think, like, I guess I've never seen like a 1397 01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,320 Speaker 1: nineteen forties gym or something like, I'm like, and what 1398 01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:41,080 Speaker 1: would that look like. It'd be like guys in like 1399 01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:45,200 Speaker 1: old timey bathing suits, wearing like throwing around medicine balls 1400 01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,360 Speaker 1: and like with cigarettes hanging out of. 1401 01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:50,320 Speaker 3: Their mouths like you say, with those like lace up 1402 01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:51,160 Speaker 3: boxer boots. 1403 01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:55,400 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so yeah, so it just hit me. I 1404 01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,679 Speaker 1: was like, huh, yeah, I guess I've never seen really 1405 01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:01,479 Speaker 1: like a health club or a gym like really before 1406 01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:02,800 Speaker 1: like the late seventies. 1407 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,320 Speaker 3: So well, the GM a gym in the seventies was 1408 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,320 Speaker 3: just going to a club and dancing like discos. 1409 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,160 Speaker 2: Your gym in the seventies. 1410 01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,120 Speaker 1: Disco and cocaine catch it thin. So I have to 1411 01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:15,679 Speaker 1: say something which this doesn't happen very often on the podcast, 1412 01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,040 Speaker 1: but this was the first time watch for me. No, 1413 01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,559 Speaker 1: I have never seen heard before me. But and part 1414 01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,240 Speaker 1: of the reason why I wanted to pick it is 1415 01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:28,200 Speaker 1: because I have known about it forever. I've obviously seen 1416 01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,720 Speaker 1: clips of it. Because this there's a scene in this 1417 01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:32,400 Speaker 1: movie that we'll talk about in a second that is 1418 01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:37,040 Speaker 1: widely gift at this point. But I want to say 1419 01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:40,479 Speaker 1: this right off the bat because I don't want to 1420 01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,559 Speaker 1: be super dramatic here. We're having a lot of fun. 1421 01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:46,160 Speaker 1: I am certainly not making this movie. I'm certainly not 1422 01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:50,040 Speaker 1: making the case for this movie being like, you know, 1423 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:55,120 Speaker 1: fucking like Out of Africa or something. But I swear 1424 01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:58,240 Speaker 1: to you that, like, I don't know if I've ever 1425 01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:02,280 Speaker 1: felt this bad of a disconnection between like the popular 1426 01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,720 Speaker 1: opinion of a movie and then the thing that I 1427 01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,360 Speaker 1: felt when I was watching it, Like everything that I 1428 01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,559 Speaker 1: had read and heard about this movie was negative pretty 1429 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,280 Speaker 1: much like I was, like I was looking at reviews 1430 01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:18,080 Speaker 1: and I was like, people thought this movie was was trash, 1431 01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,920 Speaker 1: and they continue to think it's trash. Like even when 1432 01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,240 Speaker 1: I went on letterbox to like see what my friends 1433 01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:25,599 Speaker 1: thought of it, a lot of them were like, yeah, 1434 01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:29,599 Speaker 1: this movie sucks, and I'm like, uh. 1435 01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:29,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1436 01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,320 Speaker 1: I kind of thought it was good. I kind of 1437 01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:33,400 Speaker 1: thought it was good. 1438 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:34,800 Speaker 2: Well why do you think it's good? 1439 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:37,840 Speaker 1: Well, I will explain that in just a moment. But 1440 01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:42,280 Speaker 1: I first of all, I feel like I think that 1441 01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:46,880 Speaker 1: you're like James Bridges is like a famous director, lots 1442 01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:48,920 Speaker 1: of shops. I mean, you got like good people in 1443 01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,760 Speaker 1: the film. I mean, look at Urban Cowboy, Like Urban 1444 01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,280 Speaker 1: Cowboy is kind of about a ridiculous thing, but it 1445 01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:59,400 Speaker 1: sort of became a good film because of the acting. 1446 01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,439 Speaker 1: And you know, it's just like making a good movie 1447 01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:06,800 Speaker 1: around a ridiculous concept. And maybe aerobics is too ridiculous 1448 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,519 Speaker 1: of a concept to try to make a serious film around. 1449 01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,400 Speaker 1: But I but I swear to God, when I watched 1450 01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:16,840 Speaker 1: this movie, I might be going out on a limb here, 1451 01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,920 Speaker 1: you might be like, girl, you're on your own. But 1452 01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,880 Speaker 1: I feel like perfect is sort of this like it 1453 01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,880 Speaker 1: felt very Steven Soderberg to me, like it feels like 1454 01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,400 Speaker 1: this is a prototype for a movie, like the first 1455 01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,000 Speaker 1: Magic Mic movie or something, do you know what I mean? 1456 01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,320 Speaker 1: Like I don't. 1457 01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,559 Speaker 2: Definitely, You're definitely on your own there. 1458 01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:44,840 Speaker 1: So Magic Mike is also a film the First Magic Mike. 1459 01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:46,920 Speaker 1: Let's get serious, which I don't know if you've seen 1460 01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,960 Speaker 1: the First Magic Mike, but the First Magic Mike is 1461 01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:57,599 Speaker 1: ostensibly about a ridiculous like subculture of people, but there's 1462 01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,680 Speaker 1: also like a serious tale wrapped around it, right, And 1463 01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,479 Speaker 1: that's what perfect is Like, that's like you're basically like, 1464 01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:10,080 Speaker 1: here's an eighties health club, weird bulgy spandex belted leotard thing. 1465 01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,280 Speaker 1: But then also we're going to try to make it 1466 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,800 Speaker 1: about like journalistic integrity too. 1467 01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,880 Speaker 2: But that's where I think the disconnect is because I 1468 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:21,840 Speaker 2: think this the the serious story is too compolluted. 1469 01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,320 Speaker 3: The serious story for the film is like wait what 1470 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:30,240 Speaker 3: who huhh? Like he's pursuing a story about a dude 1471 01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,479 Speaker 3: who's like a mobster, Like he's just the story he's pursuing. 1472 01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,519 Speaker 3: I think if they'd chosen a different story, it could 1473 01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,960 Speaker 3: have melded a little bit easier. But it's it feels 1474 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,920 Speaker 3: very disjointed to me, that he's pursuing this like ultra 1475 01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:46,280 Speaker 3: serious thing with this not so serious thing. But that's 1476 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,639 Speaker 3: also what journalism is, like, It's like, not everything's gonna 1477 01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:50,839 Speaker 3: be a fucking banger, and you're gonna have to pursue 1478 01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:54,240 Speaker 3: these weird little stories along with these big ones. So yeah, 1479 01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:56,400 Speaker 3: I definitely it makes sense to me. But I think 1480 01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:59,720 Speaker 3: that if anyone is that, that, to me is the 1481 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:01,760 Speaker 3: only keeping this movie out of the Hall of Fame 1482 01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,120 Speaker 3: for me is that, like the serious story is too serious, 1483 01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,920 Speaker 3: I would rather be more into the ridiculous part of it, right, 1484 01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:07,240 Speaker 3: And I. 1485 01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:10,360 Speaker 1: Feel like that, okay, so that I totally understand where 1486 01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,760 Speaker 1: you're coming from. That did not bother me as much 1487 01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,679 Speaker 1: as maybe it bothers everybody else, because when I read 1488 01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,759 Speaker 1: about the actual like when I read about Aaron Latham 1489 01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:22,439 Speaker 1: and like he was actually writing an article about the 1490 01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,479 Speaker 1: DeLorean guy John Delorian is that his name, And so 1491 01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:29,080 Speaker 1: while that was kind of working itself out, he also 1492 01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,080 Speaker 1: had a thought to write about health clubs. So it 1493 01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,360 Speaker 1: was kind of like in real life, it was a 1494 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,840 Speaker 1: guy that was like, I'm writing about this one thing 1495 01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,880 Speaker 1: that's actually like kind of serious and is a business 1496 01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:41,920 Speaker 1: crime thing. But then I'm also going to try to 1497 01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:43,800 Speaker 1: research this other thing at the same time. Because I'm 1498 01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,680 Speaker 1: in the I'm in la or whatever. I understand how 1499 01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,600 Speaker 1: people would be like, Okay, that can be true, but 1500 01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,200 Speaker 1: then also that just did not work in the movie version. 1501 01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:57,280 Speaker 1: But I don't know for me. And again Fresh Eyes 1502 01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:01,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three Eyes, I was like, this is actually okay, 1503 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,400 Speaker 1: Like I don't mind this at all. I'm not saying 1504 01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:08,680 Speaker 1: it's perfect, get it, but I'm just saying that, like, 1505 01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:13,720 Speaker 1: it wasn't as bad as people were saying it was. 1506 01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:15,679 Speaker 1: And so I was kind of like, what the fuck 1507 01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:17,880 Speaker 1: actually like this movie? It kind of, like I said, 1508 01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:19,479 Speaker 1: it coind of reminds me of the first Magic Mic. 1509 01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,720 Speaker 1: It kind of has like there's great acting in it, 1510 01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:26,080 Speaker 1: by the way, great acting. I actually think it's really 1511 01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:31,760 Speaker 1: well made. Obviously, great shocks, great scene construction. The soundtrack 1512 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:35,479 Speaker 1: is amazing too, And I mean I just was like, Okay, well, 1513 01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,960 Speaker 1: this isn't complete garbage, like right, It's not even like 1514 01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:43,000 Speaker 1: your film where it's like your film is like a 1515 01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:47,680 Speaker 1: trash treat you know, this movie is that, you know. 1516 01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:49,479 Speaker 1: I'm not saying, like like I said, it's not like 1517 01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,960 Speaker 1: completely serious like cinema, but it's also like not as 1518 01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,080 Speaker 1: not trash. It's not a trash movie to me. 1519 01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:57,160 Speaker 2: No. It has like a narrative you can follow and 1520 01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:01,160 Speaker 2: it's you know, yeah, it makes like yeah like it one. 1521 01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:05,280 Speaker 1: I just read that it was winning all these like Razzies, 1522 01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:09,439 Speaker 1: like Golden Raspberry Awards. I'm like, I, I'm not a 1523 01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,360 Speaker 1: fan of the Razzies, by the way, no, but I'm 1524 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:16,120 Speaker 1: just like, really people hated it that much, huh, But look, 1525 01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:21,360 Speaker 1: I like I said, I I watched it with fresh 1526 01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:26,840 Speaker 1: new eyes and enjoyed it very much. A one sentence synopsis, 1527 01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:28,559 Speaker 1: I don't know if I I think we kind of 1528 01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,599 Speaker 1: revealed it, which is basically like a Rolling Stone reporter 1529 01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:37,760 Speaker 1: is is writing an article about, you know, a convicted businessman, 1530 01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:43,280 Speaker 1: but is derailed once he finds this world of like 1531 01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:49,560 Speaker 1: eighties aerobics essentially, and yeah, so like so here's the 1532 01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,680 Speaker 1: thing by John Travolta. I guess I never realized this 1533 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:57,120 Speaker 1: until the first literal two minutes of the movie. Was 1534 01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,120 Speaker 1: he like really tall? Is he tall? 1535 01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, because there's a scene of. 1536 01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:04,920 Speaker 1: Him walking down the street of New York with like 1537 01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:06,720 Speaker 1: and I guess maybe these two people are maybe on 1538 01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,920 Speaker 1: the shorter side, but I was like, Travolta is fucking huge. 1539 01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:15,519 Speaker 2: He's like kind of kind of tall and welcome back Cotter. Yeah, 1540 01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,200 Speaker 2: he's six two. I looked it up. 1541 01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,760 Speaker 1: Okay, that's pretty tall. I'm look I'm five four, so 1542 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:22,600 Speaker 1: that's tall for me. 1543 01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:24,000 Speaker 2: He's taller. 1544 01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,599 Speaker 1: But for some reason, it was like very opening scene 1545 01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,680 Speaker 1: he's walking down the street and these people, like the 1546 01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:34,240 Speaker 1: two people that he were walking with. I was like, Yo, 1547 01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,479 Speaker 1: Travolta is a fucking bigin this is. 1548 01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:37,000 Speaker 2: Kind of hot. 1549 01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:42,360 Speaker 1: I didn't realize Travolta was that big, So I don't 1550 01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,599 Speaker 1: know not to not to say. I think it stopped 1551 01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,200 Speaker 1: there by the way. I was like, okay, because there 1552 01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:50,160 Speaker 1: are scenes in the movie that are unforgivable for him, 1553 01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:55,600 Speaker 1: I can't I can't even go there. But so, like 1554 01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,920 Speaker 1: I said, he's so Travolta. At the beginning of the movie, 1555 01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:59,559 Speaker 1: you know, he's trying to get this interview with this 1556 01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,920 Speaker 1: business who's called Joseph Mackenzie. You know, I think it 1557 01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:07,200 Speaker 1: obviously in the real version it's John Dolorian, but you know, 1558 01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:10,759 Speaker 1: this Joseph Mackenzie guy's involved in this like very nineteen 1559 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:15,439 Speaker 1: eighties scenario where he's like been busted for drugs but 1560 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:17,679 Speaker 1: claims that he was set up by the FBI because 1561 01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:21,120 Speaker 1: he was trying to sell computers to Iron Curtain countries. 1562 01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,839 Speaker 1: And I swear I have not heard the term Iron 1563 01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:27,840 Speaker 1: Curtain in a long time. 1564 01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:31,880 Speaker 3: In the eighties, were fucking obsessed with the Cold War, obsessed. 1565 01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:34,960 Speaker 2: They didn't know anything about it, but they were obsessed 1566 01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:35,400 Speaker 2: with it. 1567 01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I swear to god, I heard about the 1568 01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:41,840 Speaker 1: Iron Curtain because of wrestling. Was that weird. 1569 01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:46,920 Speaker 2: Who was that wrestler? The what his name was, like 1570 01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:48,439 Speaker 2: Bolshevik or something like that. 1571 01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:53,200 Speaker 1: Oh, Nikita, Nikita Colaf Is that his name? 1572 01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:55,200 Speaker 2: Well, now you know, I gotta look it up. 1573 01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:56,920 Speaker 1: Oh God, you gotta look it up. 1574 01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:00,479 Speaker 3: Nikolay Volkovna. How could I fucking forget that? 1575 01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:04,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, you know those WWF I mean it was 1576 01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:07,880 Speaker 1: like the U, the model U n in there like 1577 01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:09,920 Speaker 1: all the guys big from. 1578 01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:12,160 Speaker 2: We got the Iron Chic, we got. 1579 01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:15,920 Speaker 3: Nikolai Volkoff, we got Hacksaw, Jim Dugan, We're representing everybody. 1580 01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:19,360 Speaker 2: We've got Jimmy super Fly, Snukka Coco. Beware, We're even 1581 01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:22,439 Speaker 2: going into the goddamn jungle for the shit. We'll give 1582 01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:25,680 Speaker 2: you somemowen, We'll give you someone with a parrot. The 1583 01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:26,880 Speaker 2: amount of space. 1584 01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,040 Speaker 3: That eighties wrestlers take up in my brain, like their 1585 01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:34,280 Speaker 3: names or just their whole it's it's shocking. Like, don't 1586 01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:38,400 Speaker 3: ask me anything about the Civil War, for example, but 1587 01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:42,000 Speaker 3: I will rattle off a list of fucking eighties wrestlers 1588 01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:42,920 Speaker 3: right off the dome. 1589 01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:47,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Like Ricky the Dragon Steamboat was my early 1590 01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:51,080 Speaker 1: representation Asian AAPI representation right there. 1591 01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:56,240 Speaker 3: Jathus Snake Roberts scared us all the way from sex 1592 01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,240 Speaker 3: for most of our fucking adult lives. 1593 01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,400 Speaker 2: Like who is this guy with a fucking python wrapped 1594 01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:01,800 Speaker 2: around him? 1595 01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:03,679 Speaker 3: He's all oiled up, and we were in like leathery 1596 01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:06,800 Speaker 3: skin pants, Like I'm terrified of men until I see 1597 01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:08,320 Speaker 3: Kevin Klein two years later. 1598 01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:12,160 Speaker 1: Yes, that that is quite a shift, by the way, 1599 01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,160 Speaker 1: that's quite the sexual shift. 1600 01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,040 Speaker 3: That's sometimes that's how your taste develops, and you have 1601 01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:19,640 Speaker 3: to know what scares you before you can know what 1602 01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:20,880 Speaker 3: tittle eats you. 1603 01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,480 Speaker 2: Jake the Snake terrifying. 1604 01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,479 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Sometimes it's wrapped up in the same person, 1605 01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:28,920 Speaker 1: Like for me it was Kip Winger of the band winner. 1606 01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,000 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm scared as fuck, but also like. 1607 01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:37,040 Speaker 3: Huh because he had those fangs and like, I don't know, 1608 01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,160 Speaker 3: his teeth are just really long, and he had that feathered, 1609 01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:41,840 Speaker 3: frosted hair, and I'm like, I don't get him. 1610 01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:43,200 Speaker 2: He was always very confusing. 1611 01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:45,559 Speaker 1: He was a high bass player too, which is also 1612 01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,400 Speaker 1: fucking weird. 1613 01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:48,360 Speaker 2: Weird. 1614 01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:51,120 Speaker 3: He was slapping the bass, you know, He's just one 1615 01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,519 Speaker 3: of those guys, him and Mark Slaughter. Mark Slaughter was 1616 01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,520 Speaker 3: also very sexually confusing. 1617 01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:57,120 Speaker 1: To me me too. 1618 01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:00,240 Speaker 2: Like his high pitched voice. 1619 01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm do not make me sing Fly to the Angels, 1620 01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:07,400 Speaker 1: because I will say the entire thing, make you or 1621 01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:07,840 Speaker 1: let you. 1622 01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:12,479 Speaker 2: It's all. 1623 01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:16,560 Speaker 3: It's all Nestle commercials, eighties wrestlers and fucking fly to 1624 01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:17,120 Speaker 3: the Angels. 1625 01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:18,920 Speaker 2: Up there, folks, it's all we got going on in 1626 01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:19,479 Speaker 2: our brains. 1627 01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:28,320 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god. So so Adam the 1628 01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:29,759 Speaker 1: Judge of Volta character. 1629 01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:33,000 Speaker 2: Right, so he's like this fucking high bass player. 1630 01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:36,439 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sorry, Well I'm gonna post a picture of that, 1631 01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:38,160 Speaker 1: by the way, on our Instagram. 1632 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,719 Speaker 2: Please don't, because I'm sure he's like a convicted felon 1633 01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:45,000 Speaker 2: by now, high bass crimes. 1634 01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:48,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god, So Adam, you know, the Jode de 1635 01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:51,600 Speaker 1: Volta character. You know, while he's waiting for this you know, 1636 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,679 Speaker 1: interview to come around, he spots a couple of people 1637 01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:57,440 Speaker 1: coming out of a gym or something and he's like, huh, 1638 01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:00,680 Speaker 1: what's that? What's uh? These hot ladies and leotards, what 1639 01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:03,000 Speaker 1: are they doing? And then so he decides that he's 1640 01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,920 Speaker 1: gonna write this other story in the meantime where he's 1641 01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:09,040 Speaker 1: gonna go to La and kind of you know, embed 1642 01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:12,120 Speaker 1: himself into like a health club and see if he 1643 01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:14,800 Speaker 1: can figure out, you know, if these gyms are like 1644 01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:18,439 Speaker 1: the new singles bars. So that's kind of his angle, right, 1645 01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,280 Speaker 1: And he's got this editor at Rolling Stone, who was 1646 01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:26,960 Speaker 1: played by Yan Wenner, the actual co founder of Rolling Stone. 1647 01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,240 Speaker 1: And I have to say, I don't I don't know 1648 01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:31,519 Speaker 1: much about him if he had like an acting career, 1649 01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:33,759 Speaker 1: but I gotta say he's pretty good. He's a prood actor. 1650 01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:35,519 Speaker 3: You wouldn't look at him right away and be like 1651 01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:38,679 Speaker 3: that is a fucking editor, Like that is a real life, 1652 01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,360 Speaker 3: like magazine dude, he got he had some Yeah, he 1653 01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:44,000 Speaker 3: can work work his way around the Then. 1654 01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:47,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, he kind of has this like Oliver Platt thing 1655 01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:50,000 Speaker 1: going on. I kind of appreciated it, but also. 1656 01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:51,680 Speaker 3: I wonder if his connection to the film is why 1657 01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:53,360 Speaker 3: they were able to get such good cameos. 1658 01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:57,479 Speaker 1: Oh definitely. Oh my god. The cameos are insane, Like 1659 01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:00,000 Speaker 1: you like, it's just insane things. I mean, You've got 1660 01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:03,959 Speaker 1: like Carly Simon who throws a drink in John Travolta's face. 1661 01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,439 Speaker 2: But the drink looks like tomato soup when she throws it. 1662 01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:09,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, might have been like a bloody marry or something, 1663 01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:10,719 Speaker 1: but like that's in her glass. 1664 01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:12,760 Speaker 3: It looks like sparkling rose. But then she throws it 1665 01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:14,559 Speaker 3: on them, and I'm like, where's this soup coming from? 1666 01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:18,679 Speaker 1: Maybe she's just like I'm gonna pick up a bloody 1667 01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:23,080 Speaker 1: marry that somebody else is drinking and throwing his face drink, right, 1668 01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:25,120 Speaker 1: you got her. And then there's like a scene where 1669 01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:29,559 Speaker 1: like a bunch of people were making liquid nitrogen ice 1670 01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:33,639 Speaker 1: cream and like it's Lauren Hutton and You're like, what. 1671 01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:37,280 Speaker 2: Oh, I love it. 1672 01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:40,200 Speaker 1: I mean this is like happening at a party that 1673 01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:42,439 Speaker 1: over at his editor's house, and I'm like, at first 1674 01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,519 Speaker 1: time was like, are they making a volcano diorama from 1675 01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:49,400 Speaker 1: like elementary school, like, why is there smoke? And it's like, oh, 1676 01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:52,760 Speaker 1: they're making ice cream. It's so weird. 1677 01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:57,360 Speaker 2: They're making dippin' dots. Leave it alone. 1678 01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:02,320 Speaker 1: Leave them the fuck alone. They're just on cocaine. Let him, 1679 01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:06,320 Speaker 1: let him be weird. So Adam finds himself this this 1680 01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:10,320 Speaker 1: place in La called the Sports Connection, which they quickly 1681 01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:12,960 Speaker 1: start calling the Sports Erection. 1682 01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:17,400 Speaker 2: Oh my god, very very professional. 1683 01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:20,559 Speaker 1: Yes, And and he's walking around and then you know, 1684 01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:23,719 Speaker 1: he peaks into one of the rooms and he spots 1685 01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:27,680 Speaker 1: this woman teaching aerobics and the class is fucking pat 1686 01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,759 Speaker 1: and it's this woman named Jesse Wilson and she's played 1687 01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:36,160 Speaker 1: by Jamie Lee Curtis. Now we're gonna stop right now, 1688 01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:39,080 Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about Jamie Lee in this film 1689 01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:45,160 Speaker 1: because she is all crotch and she knows it, like, 1690 01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:50,400 Speaker 1: holy fucking shit. 1691 01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:52,280 Speaker 2: Just a nude pantyhose and a slim belt. 1692 01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:58,160 Speaker 1: Yes, she's got high, high cut leotards on, like showing 1693 01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:01,880 Speaker 1: there's at least like ten feet of leg going on. 1694 01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,360 Speaker 3: And ten feet of crack. There's like ten feet of 1695 01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:06,200 Speaker 3: butt crack in every scene in this movie. 1696 01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:09,479 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I'll just tell you right now, I mean 1697 01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:11,720 Speaker 1: this is because I don't know if this is like 1698 01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,599 Speaker 1: some psychological thing, but I'm just like, when you are 1699 01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:20,160 Speaker 1: forced to watch people intensely doing something that is like 1700 01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:27,000 Speaker 1: closed up on their private parts, like underneath clothes, You're like, 1701 01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:31,280 Speaker 1: what the hell is going on? I'm like, how could 1702 01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:36,240 Speaker 1: we're not seeing? Like it's incredible? How And this is 1703 01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:38,560 Speaker 1: just saying Jamie Lee. I'm not talking about Travolta. We 1704 01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,439 Speaker 1: will get to that in just a second. But like 1705 01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:44,799 Speaker 1: Jamie Lee has like a Barbie crotch. It's like perfect. 1706 01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:52,559 Speaker 1: There's no there's no like extruding pubic hares, there's no 1707 01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:58,559 Speaker 1: mound of puber cares, there's no like slightly sharded like 1708 01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,360 Speaker 1: wet spot moment going on in the back. 1709 01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:04,720 Speaker 3: Like it's perfect Barbie crotch. She can never she never 1710 01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:07,559 Speaker 3: got her period once in her life. This character never 1711 01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:08,599 Speaker 3: got her period never. 1712 01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,920 Speaker 1: And I mean I'm not trying to be disgusting by 1713 01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:16,040 Speaker 1: saying any of that to you know, Oscar winning actress 1714 01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:20,719 Speaker 1: Jamie Lee Curtis, but like I was like, we're seeing 1715 01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:23,439 Speaker 1: her crotch, like this is her. Her crotch is the 1716 01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:30,759 Speaker 1: character in this film, and it's easily findable on the Internet, 1717 01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:32,599 Speaker 1: by the way, because they show I mean every time 1718 01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:36,320 Speaker 1: I'm on Twitter, I see clips of this, like her pumpin' 1719 01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:41,599 Speaker 1: her thrust in thrust in. Oh, I'm like, good wow, 1720 01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,600 Speaker 1: how can she keep that so perfect? She's got to 1721 01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:49,519 Speaker 1: the perfect crotch to butt area, Like that whole area 1722 01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:51,000 Speaker 1: is very, very nice. 1723 01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,120 Speaker 3: I feel like there's a lot of Spraguelo going on 1724 01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:55,719 Speaker 3: to keep things in place, a lot of like nude 1725 01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:57,240 Speaker 3: tights in Spraguelu. 1726 01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:02,519 Speaker 1: Yeah. Like there wasn't like a protruding labial fold or anything. 1727 01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:08,240 Speaker 1: It was just perfect, perfectly smooth. Moving on. So moving 1728 01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:14,120 Speaker 1: on from labial food. So Adam wants to interview Jesse 1729 01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,519 Speaker 1: really bad, and he is. I think it's because he's 1730 01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,120 Speaker 1: horny for her, but also he wants He's like, She's like, 1731 01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:22,000 Speaker 1: she's the pied Piper of aerobics. That's what they call her, 1732 01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:23,640 Speaker 1: the pipe piper of aerobics. 1733 01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:28,639 Speaker 3: I mean she does teach a class called flimnastics. She's 1734 01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:30,160 Speaker 3: the pie piper of many things. 1735 01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:34,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, so's she's the hottest teacher at the sports direction. Okay, 1736 01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,000 Speaker 1: And you know, basically he's like, I want to interview 1737 01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:38,479 Speaker 1: and immediately she's like cuts them off. 1738 01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:38,800 Speaker 2: The hill. 1739 01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:40,640 Speaker 1: She's like, I don't do interviews. I don't want to 1740 01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:43,599 Speaker 1: talk to you. I've been burned before. We later find 1741 01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:47,640 Speaker 1: out it's because she was, you know, basically on the 1742 01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:50,080 Speaker 1: Olympic swim team and she was having an affair with 1743 01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:55,280 Speaker 1: her coach and then some reporter like interviewed her under 1744 01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:57,880 Speaker 1: the guise of maybe her accomplishments, but then they ended 1745 01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:00,559 Speaker 1: up writing the salacious article about her affair and then 1746 01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,439 Speaker 1: he like lost the job. It's very like you're saying 1747 01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:06,280 Speaker 1: it's convoluted, and I'm like, it's not convoluted, and now 1748 01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, it's a little convoluted. Like it's a 1749 01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:11,799 Speaker 1: lot a lot of a lot of details from the story, 1750 01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:15,240 Speaker 1: but anyway, the bottom line is that she's distrustful of 1751 01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:19,519 Speaker 1: Adam right, and at the same time though their nose 1752 01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:24,040 Speaker 1: and around, like they definitely like there's this scene, Okay, 1753 01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:28,160 Speaker 1: bad tech alert. There's a lot of bad laptop tech 1754 01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:32,559 Speaker 1: in this movie makes me sick, sickening. It's not quite 1755 01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:35,200 Speaker 1: Three Days the Condor bad, but it's bad. But there's 1756 01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:38,720 Speaker 1: a scene where they're like seducing each other via laptop 1757 01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:41,479 Speaker 1: and like she's like each other typing like one a fuck, 1758 01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:44,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like, what in the world. 1759 01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:45,160 Speaker 2: Not for nothing? But they stole my move. 1760 01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:50,880 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, that's out of the Daniel Henderson playbook. 1761 01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:52,960 Speaker 2: Like I've got tied to meet around the fucking bush 1762 01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:53,880 Speaker 2: here a. 1763 01:30:56,080 --> 01:31:00,240 Speaker 1: So, but then yeah, they eventually hook up, uh, and 1764 01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:02,639 Speaker 1: I mean they end up. Actually, she likes him enough 1765 01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:05,080 Speaker 1: to where she picks him up at the airport, which 1766 01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:09,680 Speaker 1: in LA means you must really like somebody. The thing 1767 01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:12,280 Speaker 1: about Jesse that's outrageous to me is that she lives 1768 01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:14,280 Speaker 1: in the house. She lives in a house with like 1769 01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:18,280 Speaker 1: four people, including this guy who fucking straight up looks 1770 01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:23,519 Speaker 1: like Roger Daltrey from the who meets somebody from Kazha 1771 01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:25,759 Speaker 1: Goo Goo the band Kasha Goo. 1772 01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:30,320 Speaker 3: Goo, and David Bowie from Labyrinth with that fucking bulge. 1773 01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:33,960 Speaker 1: Okay, that was the Literally the next words on my 1774 01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:37,800 Speaker 1: pace of paper was that we're introduced to him. He's 1775 01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:42,400 Speaker 1: in the class that she's teaching, and he's wearing this 1776 01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:48,240 Speaker 1: purple leotard and he has this ginormous bulge, right. 1777 01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:51,040 Speaker 2: Not even penile. It's not even penile, It is just 1778 01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:51,679 Speaker 2: a mound. 1779 01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:56,320 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm talking about this is like Romeo from the 1780 01:31:56,439 --> 01:32:01,919 Speaker 1: Zephyrelli version of Romeo and Juliet, like this huge bulge 1781 01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:08,160 Speaker 1: in tights and I'm like, who the fuck is this guy? 1782 01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:10,000 Speaker 1: Like when I first saw it, I was like, is 1783 01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:11,000 Speaker 1: that her boyfriend? 1784 01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:13,880 Speaker 3: I know, because she's kissing him on the lips and like, 1785 01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:16,840 Speaker 3: but then it turns out he's in like some three 1786 01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:19,680 Speaker 3: some thruple, Like, uh, he's he's a They could have 1787 01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:21,160 Speaker 3: built the whole movie around him and I would have 1788 01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:22,200 Speaker 3: been fine. 1789 01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:25,920 Speaker 1: I was like, Adam, go home, go to New York. 1790 01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:29,760 Speaker 1: Let's focus on this this house, this like you know, 1791 01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:34,200 Speaker 1: Spanish style house that these aerobics instructors are living in, 1792 01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:38,519 Speaker 1: who are all in a thruple with this labyrinth guy, 1793 01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:43,080 Speaker 1: Like it's crazy. It's crazy. Also not for nothing, but 1794 01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:45,479 Speaker 1: Jesse's mom also just hangs out in the house, and 1795 01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:49,160 Speaker 1: she's the minute that Adam meets her, like she's trying 1796 01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:52,799 Speaker 1: to shove divinity down everybody's throat, Which. 1797 01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:54,479 Speaker 2: What the fuck is that they never explained it. She's 1798 01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:55,719 Speaker 2: like a dessert. I guess. 1799 01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:57,760 Speaker 1: Let me tell you, I've lived in the South for 1800 01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:01,080 Speaker 1: like forty years, and even I'm not that southern to 1801 01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:07,360 Speaker 1: eat divinity. Jesus Christ, Like I think divinity is like 1802 01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:12,679 Speaker 1: trashy meringue. It's like merangue, like pieces of merangue made 1803 01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:15,240 Speaker 1: with like pure corn syrup. I swear to God, I 1804 01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:19,600 Speaker 1: feel like you have to be like descendants of the 1805 01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:23,920 Speaker 1: Civil War to really fuck with divinity. I don't know, ah, 1806 01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:26,519 Speaker 1: I mean, I've even had shit like hop and John 1807 01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:29,920 Speaker 1: like I like, and yeah, and pot liquor, like just 1808 01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:32,840 Speaker 1: like southern foods. I've never I don't even think I've 1809 01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:35,240 Speaker 1: ever had divinity. Like, I've never asked for divinity. 1810 01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:40,439 Speaker 3: And you're Catholic, Yeah, you feel like maybe the first 1811 01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:41,799 Speaker 3: people to be like have some divinity. 1812 01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:44,120 Speaker 2: It's a dessert and it's the way of the Lord. 1813 01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:48,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so strange. But the fact that it gets mentioned 1814 01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:51,759 Speaker 1: at all in this movie is so bizarre. I actually 1815 01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:55,240 Speaker 1: really appreciated it, to be honest. But but here's the thing. 1816 01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:58,720 Speaker 1: So Adam and and Jesse are hot. They're hot and 1817 01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:01,200 Speaker 1: heavy now and like even takes a class with her. 1818 01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:05,240 Speaker 1: And let me tell you, this is the center focal 1819 01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:09,559 Speaker 1: point of this film. It is absolutely fuck fucking won 1820 01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:15,080 Speaker 1: and it delivered on everything that I've ever seen online 1821 01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:18,599 Speaker 1: every time I've been told about it. I mean, I'm 1822 01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:20,400 Speaker 1: telling you there's clips of it on social media. You 1823 01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:22,240 Speaker 1: can see it, but you really need to see it 1824 01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:26,320 Speaker 1: in real time during the film. I will say this, 1825 01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:30,880 Speaker 1: it is my opinion that Travolta's bulge is one hundred 1826 01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:34,600 Speaker 1: percent disturbing, to the point where I was like, I 1827 01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:38,480 Speaker 1: have to look away because this shit lasts forever. 1828 01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:41,200 Speaker 2: It goes off for so long. 1829 01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:43,719 Speaker 3: And he was wearing those shorts that they only they 1830 01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:46,760 Speaker 3: made him in the eighties. Thankfully, I think the tech 1831 01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:50,400 Speaker 3: has advanced, But back in the eighties, your jim shorts 1832 01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:53,519 Speaker 3: were loose, and there was like a little net basket 1833 01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:58,000 Speaker 3: that was doing nothing, nothing for any genitals at all. 1834 01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:01,479 Speaker 3: And the net basket was just a fucking swing zone. 1835 01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:05,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was like a weird Yes, it was 1836 01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:08,960 Speaker 1: like a mesh banana hammock sewed into these tiny ass shorts. 1837 01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:13,040 Speaker 1: And I was like, can we cut away? Can we 1838 01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:17,080 Speaker 1: just cut away? Take it off of this, like like 1839 01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:20,479 Speaker 1: we're seeing outlines of dick and balls and I don't 1840 01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:22,640 Speaker 1: want to see this at all. Like I'm just not 1841 01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:25,160 Speaker 1: get XENU in here. 1842 01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:28,320 Speaker 2: To fucking edit this shit out. 1843 01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:31,320 Speaker 3: This is not like you need to check the stages 1844 01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:34,320 Speaker 3: of your scientology chart, because I'm sure Dick's swinging pants, 1845 01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:38,280 Speaker 3: is not it part of the process. 1846 01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:40,920 Speaker 2: And even they cut to someone in the background. There 1847 01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:42,240 Speaker 2: are eighty people in this class. 1848 01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:45,960 Speaker 3: This class is so big, there's like a multi level floor, 1849 01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:48,840 Speaker 3: Like there's people upstairs downstairs, like up. 1850 01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:50,640 Speaker 2: To somebody else with like a tiny belt or a 1851 01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:54,040 Speaker 2: leg warmer. No, it's all his crotch, her crutch, his crotch, 1852 01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:54,759 Speaker 2: her crouch. 1853 01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:58,320 Speaker 1: James Bridges is a g He was like, we're gonna 1854 01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:01,840 Speaker 1: stay on this shit forever, like this is gonna be 1855 01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:04,439 Speaker 1: the Jen Diale Men of crop shots. We're gonna do 1856 01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:07,439 Speaker 1: the three hour version, like fuck it. 1857 01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:10,680 Speaker 2: I was like, damn that film of crotches. 1858 01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:14,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the thing. This is the scene that 1859 01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:17,840 Speaker 1: is the twin to your film, which is that here 1860 01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:21,800 Speaker 1: are two people sweating and staring at each other hungrily. 1861 01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:25,599 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the alternate theme of the week. Is just 1862 01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:29,280 Speaker 1: like shots of two people staring at each other while sweating, 1863 01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:33,160 Speaker 1: pumping their crotches. 1864 01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:36,880 Speaker 2: Okay, to be fair, it's a it's a move. 1865 01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:40,120 Speaker 3: It's a very direct flirt move where you're like, do 1866 01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:41,240 Speaker 3: you see what's going on here? 1867 01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:42,719 Speaker 2: This is what I want us to be doing. 1868 01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:45,839 Speaker 3: Like there's no questions asked, if you see someone humping 1869 01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:49,200 Speaker 3: the air and just staring at you directly, yeah, I 1870 01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:51,000 Speaker 3: mean that has happened to me on many in New 1871 01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:51,639 Speaker 3: York subway. 1872 01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:52,679 Speaker 2: Let's just put it that way. 1873 01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:55,600 Speaker 3: If you've lived in a major city, you've had this 1874 01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:58,160 Speaker 3: scene unfortunately happened to you or at you. 1875 01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:02,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, oh man, I mean it is epic. It is. 1876 01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:06,479 Speaker 1: It was like as promised, It was absolutely delivered as 1877 01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:09,760 Speaker 1: sould like. It was great. So basically like, so this 1878 01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:12,200 Speaker 1: is all happening. Then at some point, Jesse gets freaked 1879 01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:15,000 Speaker 1: out by Adam's insistence of wanting to interview her because 1880 01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:18,000 Speaker 1: he's like really fucking pressuring her, and she's like, no, 1881 01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:21,240 Speaker 1: I had a bad experience. So she ghosts him eventually, 1882 01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:24,400 Speaker 1: and so then and decides, Okay, well I'm just gonna focus, 1883 01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:26,960 Speaker 1: you know, on these two other women at the sports erection, 1884 01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:33,920 Speaker 1: who are played by the twin hot to trot redheads 1885 01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:39,080 Speaker 1: of this establishment, Mary Lou Henner and Lorraine Newman. Gotta say, 1886 01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:42,960 Speaker 1: Mary Lou is hot as fuck in this movie. I 1887 01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:47,760 Speaker 1: was like, love her, look, love her whole vibe. This 1888 01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:50,240 Speaker 1: is epic scene. The other epics scene that I had 1889 01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:54,639 Speaker 1: heard about was this Chippendale scene because apparently Mary Lou 1890 01:37:54,640 --> 01:38:00,160 Speaker 1: Henner's character met her current boyfriend slash fiance at the 1891 01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:05,720 Speaker 1: sports erection and he's a Chippendales dancer, which is my 1892 01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:11,640 Speaker 1: fucking dream. That is a dream? Can you imagine it? 1893 01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:12,680 Speaker 2: Is? It is? 1894 01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:15,320 Speaker 3: It seems like it would be a dream until you 1895 01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:18,519 Speaker 3: see it in action. Because when I saw this scene 1896 01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:20,720 Speaker 3: again and again, I have not seen this scene for 1897 01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:25,680 Speaker 3: smooth thirty years, I completely forgot that his outfit is 1898 01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:30,040 Speaker 3: a jockstrap and there is so much ass hair just 1899 01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:33,360 Speaker 3: like that crack. The hair in his crack is so 1900 01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:37,679 Speaker 3: present that it is distracting, like these women are growing 1901 01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:40,920 Speaker 3: nuts and I'm like, but that sweaty ass crack hair 1902 01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:41,519 Speaker 3: is right there. 1903 01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:42,360 Speaker 2: It's right in your face. 1904 01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:45,680 Speaker 1: Malestrip clubs, especially in the eighties, especially in the Chippendales, 1905 01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:48,800 Speaker 1: it's a lot of pop and circumstance, and there's characters, 1906 01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:51,519 Speaker 1: so it's like you've got your firefighter, you got your cop, 1907 01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:54,080 Speaker 1: you got your jock, you know, like they're all the characters. 1908 01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:59,200 Speaker 1: I love the character work of the Chipennals, and that's 1909 01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:01,439 Speaker 1: why I was like, oh, oh my god, if my my, 1910 01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:03,920 Speaker 1: Like if I met a guy and he told me 1911 01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:05,600 Speaker 1: he was a chipen Dails dancernade to wear those like 1912 01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:18,240 Speaker 1: tuxedo tuxedo cuffs, had to dress like chips Lumberjack, like 1913 01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:21,400 Speaker 1: I would be. I would love that. It's it's pure 1914 01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:25,880 Speaker 1: theater for me. And that's like, what, Here's the thing 1915 01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:30,600 Speaker 1: that happens. Mary Lew's boyfriend is truly giving the performance 1916 01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:36,799 Speaker 1: of a lifetime. He's serving like so much ass, it's insane. 1917 01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:40,080 Speaker 1: Like first of all, he at some point moonwalks and 1918 01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:43,320 Speaker 1: his jock jockstrap, which is so funny. I was like, 1919 01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:47,720 Speaker 1: what a fucking look to move wrap. And then the 1920 01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:49,879 Speaker 1: other thing that surprised me was that he's actually kissing 1921 01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:51,000 Speaker 1: people on the mouth. 1922 01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:53,679 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, are they allowed to do that again? 1923 01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:57,560 Speaker 3: The eighties never bet an STI at all. They're like, 1924 01:39:57,640 --> 01:39:59,840 Speaker 3: let's just give everyone some herpes today. How about we 1925 01:39:59,880 --> 01:40:01,320 Speaker 3: just spread spread the love? 1926 01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:04,200 Speaker 2: Mono? Have you ever had Mono? Because you do now 1927 01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:05,120 Speaker 2: you do. Now. 1928 01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:08,320 Speaker 1: The best part of the scene is when like, like 1929 01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:10,640 Speaker 1: this guy's going around kissing all these women and then 1930 01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:13,200 Speaker 1: there's like a bouncer, Chip and Nail that comes in 1931 01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:15,360 Speaker 1: and he's like the cooler. He's like the guy that 1932 01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:22,800 Speaker 1: comes like ladies, take your volvas off the performers, can 1933 01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:25,120 Speaker 1: we can we back up? Please give him some room, 1934 01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:26,559 Speaker 1: give us ass hair some room. 1935 01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:27,639 Speaker 2: And ps. 1936 01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:30,720 Speaker 3: The people in this scene were your mom's or grandma's, 1937 01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:35,639 Speaker 3: depending on your age. Yeah, your grandma's on a Friday night, 1938 01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:40,400 Speaker 3: were fucking neck deep in some jockstrap crotch. 1939 01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:42,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, full mouth. 1940 01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:43,960 Speaker 2: Kissing of strangers. That's what they did. 1941 01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:49,320 Speaker 1: Such a fun scene. And so what ends up happening 1942 01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:51,360 Speaker 1: is that, like, you know, he gets like Adam kind 1943 01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:54,400 Speaker 1: of hooks up with these two women. You know, there's Linda, 1944 01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:56,719 Speaker 1: who is played by Lorray Newman, and you know, she's 1945 01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:59,439 Speaker 1: i think, very vulnerable and honest about like what's going 1946 01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:02,200 Speaker 1: on in her life. Like she's like, I'm single, you know, 1947 01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:05,200 Speaker 1: I live in la I really want to find love 1948 01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:07,559 Speaker 1: and maybe I'm gonna get a nose job and maybe 1949 01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:09,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do all these things and maybe that's why 1950 01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:11,280 Speaker 1: I'm at the gym all the time. I mean, you know, 1951 01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:16,240 Speaker 1: obviously she's got body image issues like everybody does. But 1952 01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:18,920 Speaker 1: it's like his whole thing is that he's like, well, 1953 01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna write this article about like these and it's 1954 01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:25,120 Speaker 1: kind of this weird like slut shamy vibe too, which 1955 01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:28,680 Speaker 1: is like he starts writing the article and then you know, 1956 01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:32,240 Speaker 1: eventually it's completed, and it's like he's just basically I 1957 01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:33,920 Speaker 1: don't know, he kind of comes at it from like 1958 01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:36,519 Speaker 1: the angle of like, well, I'm this guy from New 1959 01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:39,559 Speaker 1: York and I'm an intellectual and like look at these 1960 01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:43,880 Speaker 1: la freaks and bimbos and you know, they're all like 1961 01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:48,439 Speaker 1: hose and it kind of is it comes from like 1962 01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:52,080 Speaker 1: an Elitis perspective, like an Elita's journalistic perspective, and I 1963 01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:55,479 Speaker 1: think that's the part of the journalistic integrity message of 1964 01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:57,840 Speaker 1: the movie is that basically it's like, oh, Adam is 1965 01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:01,640 Speaker 1: not this totally great guy, like he's he's kind of 1966 01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:04,519 Speaker 1: a snob and he's coming at this world like they're 1967 01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:07,639 Speaker 1: the weirdos and you know, so that's what I'm talking about. 1968 01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:09,360 Speaker 1: When in terms of that, I was like, oh, that 1969 01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:12,080 Speaker 1: makes sense. That's a that's a great angle, right, like 1970 01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:15,439 Speaker 1: to frame the movie like that, and then it just 1971 01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:18,320 Speaker 1: kind of goes from there, like Jesse calls him out 1972 01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:22,120 Speaker 1: for writing this shitty article. You know, he eventually interviews 1973 01:42:22,160 --> 01:42:25,040 Speaker 1: this Joseph McKenzie guy, but then he gets it brilled 1974 01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:28,360 Speaker 1: in this whole like criminal case because of the tapes 1975 01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:31,720 Speaker 1: of the interview. And look, like I said before, I'm 1976 01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:33,800 Speaker 1: not saying this movie is perfect. I'm not saying this 1977 01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:37,920 Speaker 1: movie is like high art, but it's actually entertaining. I 1978 01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:41,400 Speaker 1: think it's actually a good movie. It's not as bad 1979 01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:44,519 Speaker 1: as I was ever led to believe it was. And 1980 01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:46,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, I just enjoyed it. I thought it 1981 01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:48,320 Speaker 1: was good. It's a good film. 1982 01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:49,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. 1983 01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:53,720 Speaker 1: You're allowed, Yes, you're allowed to be both Like you're 1984 01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:59,120 Speaker 1: allowed to be trashy and interesting or trashy in like 1985 01:42:59,360 --> 01:42:59,960 Speaker 1: semi in a lie. 1986 01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:00,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1987 01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:03,519 Speaker 1: Yep, I try. I try to do that every day 1988 01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:05,479 Speaker 1: in my life. So maybe it's just. 1989 01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:09,320 Speaker 2: Me just entertaining. Yeah, you're allowed to just be entertaining. 1990 01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:13,320 Speaker 1: Yes. So anyway, I at the end of the day, 1991 01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:16,280 Speaker 1: these two movies, like I said, are perfect for the theme. 1992 01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:20,000 Speaker 1: We had so much spandex it was kind of unforgivable. 1993 01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:25,479 Speaker 3: But I love ad outfit. I just love a workout outfit. 1994 01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:27,599 Speaker 3: Imagine wearing a belt when you work out. I just 1995 01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:30,960 Speaker 3: I love it, Like four pairs of pants, eight pairs 1996 01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:33,320 Speaker 3: of pantyhose, a belt. 1997 01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:35,560 Speaker 2: It was a scene it was a scene. 1998 01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:42,640 Speaker 1: Leg warmers to keep your ankles warm. Like still I 1999 01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:44,559 Speaker 1: wore leg warmers and I'm still like, I don't know 2000 01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:49,280 Speaker 1: what that was for fashion? 2001 01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:53,240 Speaker 2: For pure fashion looks what. 2002 01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:56,880 Speaker 1: Else I know? Also, listen, I if you, if you 2003 01:43:57,000 --> 01:44:01,639 Speaker 1: somehow have photographs of like people of your of your life, 2004 01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:05,840 Speaker 1: or maybe you in full spand exploitation mode, please send 2005 01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:07,919 Speaker 1: them to I saw what she did Pott at gmail 2006 01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:11,240 Speaker 1: dot com because I would kill to see them. 2007 01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:13,080 Speaker 3: Let's see if we need some kind of legal release 2008 01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:17,479 Speaker 3: for the like, here's my dad working out, and your 2009 01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:18,080 Speaker 3: dad's like, I. 2010 01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:19,240 Speaker 2: Am suing those idiots. 2011 01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:21,880 Speaker 1: Oh god, no, there's a picture. I'll post a picture 2012 01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:24,000 Speaker 1: of my mom. I'm sure she would be so happy 2013 01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:27,040 Speaker 1: to see this picture online because she looks so hot 2014 01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:29,559 Speaker 1: in it or whatever. But like she's wearing like a 2015 01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:35,759 Speaker 1: leotard underneath a pair of sweatshorts I guess full leg warmers, 2016 01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:38,680 Speaker 1: and she's like posing in front of my car that 2017 01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:42,720 Speaker 1: I drove in high school for some reason, and I'm like, 2018 01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:45,920 Speaker 1: and she's got huge hair, and I'm like, oh gosh, 2019 01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:47,840 Speaker 1: she looks fucking cool as shit. I mean, it is 2020 01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:49,120 Speaker 1: so polarious. 2021 01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:52,000 Speaker 2: Ask him. You can post it. 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