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Speaker 2: Live coverage about twenty twenty five Steelers Training Camp is

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Speaker 3: Steel Welcome back to the Locker Room with King and Stark's,

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Speaker 3: presented by your Neighborhood Ford Store. Here on the Steelers

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Speaker 3: Audio Network, getting you ready for a Friday Night Lights.

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Speaker 4: Steelers Practice Edition.

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Speaker 3: An exciting day for the Steelers, an exciting day for

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Speaker 3: Steelers Nation, lots of fun. We're gonna dig a little

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Speaker 3: more into that and what it means for the Steelers,

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Speaker 3: it might mean for individual players. I want to do,

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Speaker 3: at least briefly touch on the fact that the Hall

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Speaker 3: of Fame game was played last night. Max Football is back.

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Speaker 3: Trey Lance starred in the game. You know, look, I

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Speaker 3: don't know anything about Trey Lance. I just know that

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Speaker 3: I think it would be very difficult to get drafted.

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Speaker 3: You did somebody trades for you, and now you know,

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one, he's a third overall pick by

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Speaker 3: the forty nine ers, and he's the quarterback of the future.

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Speaker 3: And then there's injury issues and brock Purty comes in

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Speaker 3: and now he's bounced around a little bit and everyone's

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Speaker 3: calling him a bust.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's twenty five years old, you know.

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Speaker 3: So you know, the human part of me, I don't

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Speaker 3: know anything about Tree Lance, A human part of me

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Speaker 3: was happy to see him at least throw up a

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Speaker 3: decent game last night.

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Speaker 5: No, he had a solid game last night through a

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Speaker 5: couple of touchdowns. I mean, obviously the defense had a

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Speaker 5: pick six. I mean the game was very lopsided. But

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Speaker 5: I mean we already know what the Detroit Lions are, right.

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Speaker 5: You know, you're not putting Aiden Hutchison out there. You're

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Speaker 5: not throwing Jarrett Goff in the mix or Jamior Gibbs.

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Speaker 5: You know, you're not putting your frontline starters that you

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Speaker 5: know we're vying for the top offensive line last year.

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Speaker 5: So you know, you look at it and it was like, yep,

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Speaker 5: the Chargers had all the things to prove and Harbaugh

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Speaker 5: and his second season and a lot of new pieces

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Speaker 5: to work with, so you got to see a good

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Speaker 5: little mix of them. And of course they dominated in

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Speaker 5: the game. The score was you know, as we watched it,

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Speaker 5: I mean they had late fourth quarter touchdowns, like three

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Speaker 5: was But it was good to get football out there,

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Speaker 5: to see referees, to see a score, and to see

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Speaker 5: competitive guys trying to make teams, trying to make a

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Speaker 5: name for self, but also auditioning for thirty one other teams, right,

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Speaker 5: because not everyone's gonna make that squad. So the guys

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Speaker 5: pro player personnel director that's watching that game intently and

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Speaker 5: taking notes. You want to make sure you turn their eye,

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Speaker 5: I thought. But Doll had a really good game at

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Speaker 5: the running back position for the Chargers. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 5: there was a lot of big plays to be made

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Speaker 5: out there. So it's incremental progress towards getting towards the

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Speaker 5: beginning of the season where we'll have you know, the

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Speaker 5: opening night, we'll have the raigning.

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Speaker 6: Super Bowl champion in Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 5: You know, we'll be starting off the festivities for the

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Speaker 5: regular season, and of course we have games internationally that weekend,

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Speaker 5: a game in Brazil on that Friday once again like

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Speaker 5: last year, and we'll be moving towards a regular season

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Speaker 5: and we hope that you know, the parody, the competition,

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Speaker 5: because the guys that were wearing uniforms last night, that's

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Speaker 5: not the Chargers and that's not the Detroit Lions. Those

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Speaker 5: for the Detroit Lions and the La Chargers. It was

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Speaker 5: the auditioned night. It was the first of many that

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Speaker 5: will happen. Every team will have three of them, you know,

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Speaker 5: And this is just a fun part that we get

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Speaker 5: here and now we can say football has truly been

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Speaker 5: But it was really good just to go through the

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Speaker 6: Have our own preseason game to worry about. Robbins right,

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Speaker 5: Who's the third string right tackle for the Jacksonville Jaguars

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Speaker 5: coming up ahead at who's the you know, the fourth

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Speaker 5: We have more stuff to do. So it's fun to

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Speaker 3: And two things it struck me in that game. We

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Speaker 3: just mentioned Trey Lance briefly, but if you know, look,

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Speaker 3: Naji Harris signed to the Chargers. Really wish him well.

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Speaker 3: I loved how Hardy competed for the Steelers, and I

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Speaker 3: Always liked his game with the Colts, always thought he

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Speaker 3: Chargers personnel decisions. I can't see him keeping five running

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Speaker 4: He would have played anyway.

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Speaker 3: Just seeing the same sort of things we're gonna see

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Speaker 4: To see in the preseason.

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Speaker 3: Is guys trying to take advantage of whatever opportunity it

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Speaker 4: You've got to seize the day.

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Speaker 3: You've got the karpe dim when you've got the opportunity, Oh,

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Speaker 3: you absolutely do.

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Speaker 6: And these are finite opportunities.

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Speaker 5: And you know, a lot of dreams can be made,

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm not gonna say crushed, but a lot

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Speaker 5: of dreams can be ended based on your play and

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Speaker 5: make it count. And that's what these practices are for.

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Speaker 5: From our perspective, from a team perspective, you have to

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Speaker 5: another one. You get the mini preview series version scrimmage

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Speaker 5: think Corey Trice kind of put it perfectly. You know,

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Speaker 5: hopefully I give the fans something to be excited about,

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Speaker 5: the fans to cheer, guess what, coaches the scouts take notice. Yes,

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Speaker 5: So you want to make sure that you're putting you're

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Speaker 5: putting the ooz and ohs, and you're making the highlight reel.

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Speaker 5: You're not on the highlight reel. If that makes any sense, Rob, No,

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Speaker 3: You know when you think about you know, the players

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Speaker 3: did want to I did want to bring this up

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Speaker 3: And you could argue it's you know, jan Thornhill, right,

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Speaker 3: the headline was Fitzpatrick for Jalen Ramsey, and I understand

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Speaker 3: I think this guy could. I'm not gonna say he's

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Speaker 3: who knows how much the Steelers are gonna throw the

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Speaker 3: Arthur Smith said, But I really like his pickup. We

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Speaker 3: haven't talked a ton about the tight ends, you know,

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Speaker 3: We've we've been kind of moving around to different position

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Speaker 4: But I really like what.

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Speaker 3: John wy Smith can potentially bring to this offense from

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Speaker 3: a number of factors. Max you know, eighty eight receptions.

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Speaker 3: I think that that speaks for itself. But also, and

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Speaker 3: again I'm not gonna come on the show and say

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Speaker 3: I know what kind of a blocker Johnny Smith is, right,

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Speaker 3: because I haven't seen him play that much. But the

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Speaker 3: reputation is that this guy is or the scouting reports,

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Speaker 3: whatever you want to call him. You know, he's not

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Speaker 3: the biggest tight end, but you get him out in

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Speaker 3: the football with increasing effectiveness. Max, I think that's a

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Speaker 3: really good pickup for the Steelers.

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Speaker 5: Right, You have a lot of talent in that room,

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Speaker 5: You're trying to create options for your team. You're trying

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Speaker 6: So it's a good problem to have.

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Speaker 5: Once again, you're never gonna hear a coach complain about

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Speaker 5: So I use that tongue in cheek, but that's what

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Speaker 3: Yes, so true and again as usual, a lot to

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Speaker 3: It's just keep them fresh, keep me. There's just so

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Speaker 5: You never want to mess with another person's thrown and

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Speaker 3: you know, again, if he makes the team and it's

436
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 3: part of the Bengals camp when they break camp, part

437
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 3: of the Bengals roster, he's a guy that can present

438
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 3: some problems.

439
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I mean he is.

440
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 5: And like you said, this time of year when you

441
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 5: see release, you see guys you know, kind of getting

442
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 5: the respect. But it's like, man, you want to be

443
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 5: on top of these material changes. And you know, Cincinnati

444
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 5: being a place, like you said, you have Joe Burrow,

445
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 5: you have a skilled quarterback, and you're looking at.

446
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,719
Speaker 6: Adding a talented pass catching tight end.

447
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,959
Speaker 5: That dow creates more opportunities, right if you're gonna try

448
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 5: and lock up Jamar Chase and T Higgins, you know,

449
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,199
Speaker 5: Noah fense kind of relieves some of that pressure, so

450
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 5: you can't double either. You got to play him true

451
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 5: man to man and or play him up straight up.

452
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 5: But that's also why, if you're the Steelers, why we

453
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 5: need so many different dbats the second that's right, I'm

454
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 5: the prime example that now you know, I was worried

455
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 5: before you know, you knowing, Oh, T Higgins signed and

456
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 5: Jamar Chase got this big contract. But now you're seeing, uh, oh,

457
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 5: this is this is a uh this is a problem.

458
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,439
Speaker 5: But you're like, wait a second. We got Jalen Ramsey,

459
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 5: Darius Lay, and Joey Porter Jr. And we just talked

460
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,199
Speaker 5: to Corey Trice exactly, we technically have more options to

461
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 5: deploy at this on top of our already having one Thornhill,

462
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,479
Speaker 5: Deshaun Elliott, and Chuck Clark back there. Now it doesn't

463
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,479
Speaker 5: feel as daunting, right. We talked about there is depth

464
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 5: this year versus a year ago. We didn't have that

465
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 5: depth and this would have been a real material problem

466
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 5: going into the season, like how are we going to

467
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 5: defend all these guys, Like we're gonna have to give

468
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 5: up that one guy's gonna just just eat in this game,

469
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 5: and we're just gonna have to live with the sacrifice

470
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 5: of praying that the pass rush will get there. But now,

471
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 5: going into this you hear that news, I don't flinch,

472
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 5: you know, I'm just like, Okay, this is gonna be

473
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 5: another challenge. But this is why we configured things and

474
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 5: brought these type of people on the team and into

475
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,199
Speaker 5: camp to figure out how we're gonna be able to

476
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 5: deal with this because we knew there was going to

477
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 5: be a third receiver that would have to emerge right

478
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 5: for Cincinnati, Right because you already have the two front

479
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 5: lines and there's gonna be a lot of attention paid

480
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 5: to them. So who's your third option? Who's the one

481
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 5: that was gonna be? Was it gonna be Yoshivah like

482
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 5: like we've seen in years pass, you know, because you

483
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 5: kind of take out Jamar or Tea's not available.

484
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 6: Was it gonna be Jermaine Burton Junior? You know? Was

485
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 6: he going to come in and be a viable guy?

486
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 5: Now it's like it doesn't matter who they toss out there,

487
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 5: Like we have guys who can go toe to toe

488
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 5: with these guys because we've we've drafted and traded properly

489
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 5: to be in a position where we can defend three

490
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 5: top flight receiving body types, if not a fourth one.

491
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 5: So I mean, I it just it just goes to

492
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 5: further cement the mindset of what you know Omar Khan

493
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,479
Speaker 5: has done and Andy Widel of really going and finding

494
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 5: this talent and identifying needs before they become needs. So

495
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 5: now that we don't we don't flinch in the media

496
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 5: or or start, you know, worrying about a lot of

497
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 5: these things. So I'm really happy that we have the

498
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 5: situation that we have so that news does not start

499
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 5: to create angst in my mind.

500
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 6: I have a lot of other things to worry about.

501
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 5: I don't want to worry about Noah Fense going to

502
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 5: the Bengals, you know, and they still have a lot

503
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 5: of other issues over there in Cincinnati.

504
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 6: Who's rushing the passer? Bud Okay, that's right, nobody anyway.

505
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, we could talk about that.

506
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Speaker 6: I was.

507
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Speaker 3: I remember, by the way, Eric Hall Junior is a

508
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,719
Speaker 3: tight end. They really like he got hurt last year

509
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 3: as a rookie. He's a fourth round pick. He was

510
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 3: kind of that guy that could do both, could block

511
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 3: and receive. They really liked what he was progressing. So

512
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 3: it's an interesting tight end room for the Bengals. And

513
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 3: you're right, you know, they're waiting for a Burton or

514
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 3: whatever to you know, can he can he cash it on?

515
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 3: That talent has some other issues that you know in

516
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 3: the past that have dogged him. So that that is

517
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 3: and again that's interesting, but I think it's relative to

518
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 3: the Steelers because, like you said, Max, you know, I

519
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 3: think when when you are compiling an offense and the

520
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 3: Steelers are trying to do that, every team is trying

521
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 3: to do that. There are only so many good coverage

522
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 3: guys around. Teams are scrambling around to get those guys.

523
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 3: That's why when you go out in the off season

524
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 3: and your people would argue that the Steelers were one

525
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 3: of those teams last year. You go out in the

526
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 3: season in the offseason and you add Darius Slay and

527
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 3: you know you ad Ramsey, and then you also have

528
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: you know, Beaie Bishop coming back, and Corey Trice coming

529
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 3: back and others you know, obviously Joey Porter Jr. I

530
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 3: think that the goal is almost to have so many

531
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 3: good offensive players that eventually the defense runs out.

532
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 4: Of good players who can cover those guys.

533
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 3: You are going to find a mismatch somewhere and and

534
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 3: and then you know again, think about it now for

535
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: your defense and you realize, oh boy, we've got a

536
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 3: mismatch here on this particular player. Now we're going to

537
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 3: have to take one of our top defensive backs and

538
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 3: maybe leave him uncomfortably on a Jamar Chase by himself. Well,

539
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,959
Speaker 3: now that that makes you know that suddenly now that

540
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 3: becomes the area of concern. You run out of good players.

541
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 3: And I think that the Steelers now have added that

542
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 3: depth of guys who can cover. You know, the inside

543
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 3: linebackers can really run. You have corners of you have

544
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 3: depth of cornerback. We're knocking on wood right now, Max,

545
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 3: to make sure everybody stays healthy.

546
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 6: But does my head count? Does my head count as would? Yes?

547
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 4: I wonder.

548
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 6: Yeah.

549
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 3: So so anyway, I think that's a you know, that

550
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 3: point you mentioned a really good one, because that's that's

551
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 3: something that every team is trying to do. Now we

552
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 3: were talking about the tight end situation for the Steelers.

553
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 3: Let's bring it back to that from the Bengals to

554
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: the Steelers. And you know, every once in a while

555
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 3: you're reminded, I'm reminded of just how good and all

556
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 3: around football player Connor Hayward is.

557
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 4: Now.

558
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: His past receptions went down last year. You know, he's

559
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 3: obviously an excellent special teams player, but watching that backs

560
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 3: on backers drill, Max, if I was going to pick

561
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 3: one offensive guy who stood above the rest in that drill,

562
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 3: that guy for me would have been Connor Hayward.

563
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I agree with you. Connor Hayward was the

564
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 5: star on the offense side of the ball and backs

565
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 5: on backers two days ago, and he went in and

566
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 5: he saw him just butt up with guys and stick

567
00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 5: to him like fly paper.

568
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's what and versus you know the other guys.

569
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 5: I mean now, granted, it is tougher to judge a

570
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 5: running back right because Connor's out on that edge, and

571
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 5: that he played the wing in kind of the tight

572
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 5: end position, so you have a little bit more space

573
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 5: to kind of work with and run the hoop or

574
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 5: the arc angle, so to speak, to keep them out

575
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 5: of that quarterback box position. But the tenacity and the

576
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 5: defense couldn't whip them. They whipped a lot of the

577
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 5: other guys. JJ Goalbreth had a very rookie experience with

578
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 5: the backson backers drill.

579
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 6: You know, John HU Smith, you know, had a time

580
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 6: with it.

581
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 5: Darnel Washington, even as good as he is in that drill,

582
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 5: struggled when you're going up against the likes of oh

583
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 5: T J. Watt just about every rap him and alex I. Smith,

584
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 5: you know you're gonna have trouble with those. But it

585
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 5: was the tenacity, like Jalen Warren you know, as good.

586
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 6: As he is. You know, it's always.

587
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 5: Tough for a running back in the backfield and a

588
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 5: linebacker on the line of scripts.

589
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 6: It's not realistic.

590
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 5: I wish they would have backed them up and kept

591
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 5: them at depth, you know, before the rush, because it

592
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 5: would allow for a more realistic but shorter collision contact zone. Physicality.

593
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 5: Stick to your guy regardless if he makes it there

594
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 5: or not. You know, you just want to see that.

595
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 5: I thought Caleb Johnson had quitted himself, but Connor by

596
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 5: far had the best performance of everybody and really stone

597
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 5: those guys and it was just good to see.

598
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 6: And you know, once again, you know, you keep.

599
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 5: Bringing in all these different body types for the tight

600
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 5: end position, but one body type stands strong and that's

601
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 5: the meatball.

602
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 4: Yeah it is. And you know, Max, when you when.

603
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 3: You think about, like we talk a lot about, you know,

604
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 3: players trying to fight their way under the fifty three

605
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 3: man roster, and it's not always one thing. I mean,

606
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 3: if somebody excels at one area of the game, you're like, wow,

607
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: you know, we can work with the other stuff. But man,

608
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 3: he is so excellent that could get you on a roster,

609
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 3: you know, really good at something and just solid or

610
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 3: really good at lot a lot of other things and

611
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 3: maybe not unbelievable one thing that can get you on

612
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: a ross. You know, that sort of versatility. You know,

613
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 3: to me, Connor Heyward, he's a worry free player. You know,

614
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 3: you put him out there and first of all, he's

615
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 3: going to excel at special teams, so he's got value

616
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,479
Speaker 3: there for sure, top level value there. And then you know,

617
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 3: they talk about the fact that listen, if something happened,

618
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: the worst happened, he could play running back for you.

619
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 3: You know, he could finish the game at the running

620
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 3: back position. He could play tight end, he can play

621
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 3: h back, he can play full back.

622
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 4: He's got very sure hands.

623
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 3: You know, this is a guy who's just got a

624
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 3: lot to recommend himself to a football team.

625
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 6: No, he absolutely does.

626
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 5: He brings a lot of different elements that you know,

627
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 5: once again we talked. I say this again. I feel

628
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 5: like a broken record, almost, rob do I sound like

629
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 5: a broken record? No, you don't know, Okay, variety, variability, option, optionality.

630
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 6: Is that a word? Optionality? It is now?

631
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 5: It is now Listen, I'm going I went to the

632
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 5: Wolf School of Linguistics, so you'll have to bear with

633
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 5: me will create some words on this journey that we're

634
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 5: that we embark upon.

635
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 6: But it creates your options.

636
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 5: It makes you more elusive, it makes you more varied

637
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 5: to where the defense cannot pigeonhole you. What did we

638
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 5: see over the Matt Canada era here in Pittsburgh?

639
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 6: Predictability? Right right?

640
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 5: We everybody in the freaking stadium knew exactly what was

641
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 5: going to happen, when was gonna happen, And people wondered,

642
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 5: why is it not working? It's because everybody in the

643
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 5: stadium knew that it was happening. So when you have

644
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 5: those skill sets, it creates illusions and you wonder what

645
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 5: if you're like, oh man, I don't know, Oh wow,

646
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,479
Speaker 5: that happened. Whoa awesome, good job, bravo, bravo. Let's keep

647
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 5: doing that whatever that was, Yeah, let's do that. That's

648
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 5: what That's what you're trying to create.

649
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, to that point, Max, you know, I was watching

650
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 3: one of the seven on seven drills in practice?

651
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 4: Was it yesterday? When practice was at ten o'clock? The

652
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Speaker 4: days are all blurring together, I.

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Speaker 6: Think, yeah, yesterday, right yesterday?

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Speaker 5: It was Thank you, we actually got to watch practice

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Speaker 5: quid hours ago.

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Speaker 4: You know, I decided, okay, this is the time in camp.

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Speaker 3: You know, you're you're memorizing the rosters and maybe kind

658
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Speaker 3: of in your head, you know, trying to do the

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Speaker 3: show with Max, maybe calling a little bit play by

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Speaker 3: play in your head, and you know, they go empty set,

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Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, okay, I gotta describe empty set three

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Speaker 3: receivers this way too. And not just before I even

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Speaker 3: finished describing in my mind where the three receivers were

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Speaker 3: in the truth, they shifted and now they got two

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Speaker 3: tight ends in an h back and I got a

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Speaker 3: running back. And I'm like, wow, that's a lot of

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Speaker 3: pre snap movement that we're gonna try to be keeping

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Speaker 3: track up for fans listening on this year's audio network

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Speaker 3: listening to the games, which of course we encourage them

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Speaker 3: to do. There's a lot of pre snap movement, a

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Speaker 3: lot of different stuff happening before a snap, and that

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Speaker 3: creates problems for the defense.

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Speaker 6: No, it does.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's what you know is the wonderment

675
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Speaker 5: and the excitement is that I want to make it

676
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Speaker 5: harder on the opponent to guess what I'm doing. And

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Speaker 5: it matters on offense and defense. The same thing when

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Speaker 5: you line up in a certain structure defensively, you know,

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Speaker 5: you're like, oh man, you know, why are they lining

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Speaker 5: up in this? You know, I said that yesterday, like

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Speaker 5: in seven shots, I'm like, why are they line up

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Speaker 5: in goal line?

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Speaker 6: Six to two versus eleven personnel? Right?

684
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Speaker 5: Because hey, if we want to get the pass rush in,

685
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Speaker 5: sometimes we're gonna end up in awkward situations. You got

686
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Speaker 5: to try and succeed. And as an offense, it might

687
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Speaker 5: not be ideal you're outnumbered, but you got to figure

688
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Speaker 5: out how to lose slowly, you don't try and give

689
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Speaker 5: your quarterback as much.

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Speaker 6: Time as possible. That's what you're presenting.

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Speaker 5: But when you have personnel that looks like one and

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Speaker 5: can act like another, that further brain scrambles everybody. And

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Speaker 5: if you have a guy that's inexperienced, a rookie in there,

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Speaker 5: maybe a second, your guy that hadn't quite seen a

695
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Speaker 5: lot of football, that could be that one tenth of

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Speaker 5: a second hesitation that you need to make a play breakout.

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Speaker 4: Especially when you've got a quarterback who's seen it all.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 5: So no, it's very exciting and this is you know,

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Speaker 5: not an embarrassment of riches, but it is it is

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Speaker 5: a corn coopia of options that can turn into something great.

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Speaker 3: Oh well described Max Stark's Hey, you know what Mike

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Speaker 3: Tomlin likes to say, Iron sharpens, Iron Gonna look forward

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Speaker 3: to what the Steelers are looking forward to tonight Friday

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Speaker 3: Night Lights. When we continue on the Locker Room with

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Speaker 3: King and Starks, presented by your Neighborhood Forward Store on

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Speaker 3: Welcome back inside the Locker Room with King and Starks,

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Speaker 3: To quote Max Starks, we don't have an embarrassment of riches,

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Speaker 3: but we do have a cornicopia of options, which leads

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Speaker 3: us to Wes Euler joining us.

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Speaker 4: Max is here. Don't you worry, Max, don't you worry.

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Speaker 6: Don't you fret?

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Speaker 7: There, but you still have a corner copia of options.

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Speaker 7: I mean I'm here for you as well.

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Speaker 6: Exactly.

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Speaker 5: I mean c J can jump in at any point

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Speaker 5: if we need any pop culture references.

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Speaker 6: He's willing to always jump in. That's right.

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Speaker 7: Did you go to the movies last night, Siege?

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Speaker 6: He sure did, Yeah, exactly, he's our he's our review man. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: here's here's our resident ciscle and he.

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Speaker 7: But he's the gene Sterotaur of the movie game for us.

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Speaker 4: Ask him what he saw?

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Speaker 6: What you what'd you see? Siege? Oh he went and

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Speaker 6: saw Naked Gun. That's right. It came out yesterday. How

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Speaker 6: was it? Two thumbs up? Two thumbs up?

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Speaker 4: Wait, a new naked Gun? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: With Liam Nees, you have some reasons.

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Speaker 3: Yes, No, I will definitely, I'll definitely be lined up

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Speaker 3: to watch that one.

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Speaker 4: I thought all those movies we hysterical.

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Speaker 3: By the way, A couple of great quotes from Max

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Speaker 3: Starks today. Uh, there are those who feel the pressure

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Speaker 3: and those who apply it.

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Speaker 4: Supply it apply it or supply.

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Speaker 3: It, apply it, apply it okay or applied apply apply it.

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Speaker 5: And remember my analogy was I do that at the

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Speaker 5: buffet when I need the cook to make more chicken

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Speaker 5: nuggets because I've eaten.

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Speaker 4: Them all and the other one I loved.

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Speaker 3: We don't we don't have we don't have an embarrassment

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Speaker 3: of riches, but we do have a corn of copia

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Speaker 3: of options. Real quick, West, what are you looking forward to?

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Speaker 3: What for you Friday night lights? What's the most exciting

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Speaker 3: thing for you?

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Speaker 7: Just the energy, just the crowd there is, as you

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Speaker 7: guys know, and especially we've been kind of unfortunate with

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Speaker 7: weather and practice times here. We've only seen one padded

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Speaker 7: practice and we've all been out here for nine days already.

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Speaker 7: I'm just excited to kind of hit one of those milestones.

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Speaker 7: And you know, it's felt a little dog daysious dog

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Speaker 7: Day's ish, yeah days say that five times fast over

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Speaker 7: the last couple of days. But it will not tonight.

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Speaker 7: It will feel like a like a pseudo preseason game tonight.

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Speaker 7: So that's it for me.

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Speaker 4: Kinger.

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Speaker 7: There's there's been some weird scheduling, some weird weather that's

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Speaker 7: kind of led to a loll and us not getting

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Speaker 7: as much action as we anticipated, but that will change tonight.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so Max Iron sharpening Iron. I did want to

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Speaker 3: ask you quickly about the trenches. We've been talking about

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Speaker 3: that and again there's been some injuries. Broderick Jones a

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Speaker 3: little dinged up. Ciamalo is just kind of getting ramping

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Speaker 3: back up after being taken off the NFI. But you know,

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Speaker 3: I want you to kind of go back quickly apply

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Speaker 3: what you learned during your own playing days to what

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Speaker 3: we expect to see with this younger offensive line against

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Speaker 3: a veteran proven very good. Of course, there's some young

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Speaker 3: guys in the defensive line too, I understand that, but

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Speaker 3: a veteran proven defense how that can help you get better?

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Speaker 3: And did you feel that at any point during your

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Speaker 3: career going against you know, the Aaron Smith's and the

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Speaker 3: you know, the Joey Porter juniors and or Joey Porter seniors,

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Speaker 3: the James Harrison's, those sort of guys, how much that

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Speaker 3: can make you better?

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Speaker 5: The practice process, Oh my goodness, Uh yeah, I mean

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Speaker 5: it was everything in the world. I mean, and you

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Speaker 5: didn't want to get embarrassed in front of the crowd,

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Speaker 5: you know, because the one on one pass rush takes

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Speaker 5: takes place in the near end zone, closest to the

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Speaker 5: crowd where they enter in. So there's a lot of

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Speaker 5: eyeballs on you when you get on that one on

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Speaker 5: one pass rush. So you didn't want to get embarrassed.

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Speaker 5: You wanted to fight, and you wanted to have a

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Speaker 5: good time. And you know, if it led to a

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Speaker 5: physical fight, all the better, right, But it was an

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Speaker 5: opportunity to when pressed against the prospect of having people

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Speaker 5: like kind of a lot closer to you and you

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Speaker 5: felt the eyeball. It was a moment to see if

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Speaker 5: you'd stand up or you'd crumble under the pressure. And

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Speaker 5: that pressure cooker was always president. I mean, I'll never

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Speaker 5: forget my first Friday night lights and I'm lined up

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Speaker 5: at right tackle going against Clark Hagen's and one on ones,

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Speaker 5: and you know, the first thing it was, I don't want.

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Speaker 6: To fall down.

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Speaker 5: I want to be that guy that's playing on the

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Speaker 5: ground right, you know, and slipping and sliding because you know,

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Speaker 5: it's still high school field, still high school groundskeepers, so

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Speaker 5: you know, the grass is a little bit when it

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Speaker 5: gets longer, it's it's a little bit slicker, So you know,

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Speaker 5: you have to kind of pick your knees up, so you.

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Speaker 6: Didn't want to get into it.

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Speaker 5: I didn't want to show off my flexibility and do

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Speaker 5: it like a full split either, so you know you

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Speaker 5: had to be on top of your p's and q's.

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Speaker 5: You don't want to be too fast. I want to

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Speaker 5: be too slow. It's like Goldilock syndrome. But you know,

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Speaker 5: I put my best foot forward. And then of course,

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Speaker 5: like going up against a Chemo von Olhoffen at the

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Speaker 5: when I went over to left tack because I was

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Speaker 5: a swing tackle, you know, as a young guy in

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Speaker 5: the league, as a.

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Speaker 6: Rookie, and you know, you just want to do your best.

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Speaker 5: And then we got into team period, and you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm the jumbo tight end. You know, now obviously we

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Speaker 5: have Darnell Washington. He's a built in jumbo. So you

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Speaker 5: don't need to declare like Zach Banner used to do

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Speaker 5: in more recent history. But that's what you're going up against,

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Speaker 5: that's what you're fighting for as your fighting for the

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Speaker 5: opportunity to be known and to leave a positive mark

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Speaker 5: and a positive impact. And you know I could say

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Speaker 5: that because of that first audition.

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Speaker 6: It led to nine years on this team. So I

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Speaker 6: mean as I did.

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Speaker 5: Something right that night, and these young guys have their

838
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Speaker 5: opportunity to make their marks on on the crowd and

839
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Speaker 5: on this team and the scouting and the coaches, you know,

840
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Speaker 5: to make sure that they're going to be counted when

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Speaker 5: you start to slot, to make sure you're above that

842
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Speaker 5: fifty three line and you're not in that tweener line.

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Speaker 5: That's that's the one that could you know, stock up,

844
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Speaker 5: stock down type of position down to what sixty was

845
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Speaker 5: it sixty seven? Because you're fifteen practice squads.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so real quick, Max, and I think we all understand,

847
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Speaker 3: and you laid out beautifully the competition for the individual

848
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 3: and it's going to be fierce this team. We've mentioned it.

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Speaker 3: This roster from my vantage point, is extremely deep. The

850
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Speaker 3: competition is going to be extremely high. Just to make

851
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Speaker 3: the roster for certain players. Then you're fighting for playing

852
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Speaker 3: time amongst certain players, which is a very healthy place

853
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Speaker 3: to be. Other than compete level and execution, you want

854
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Speaker 3: to see, you know, Christmas guys doing the right things,

855
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Speaker 3: being in the right places. Is there an overall theme

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Speaker 3: that the team, the coaching staff, Mike Tomlin and his

857
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Speaker 3: group is looking forward to in tonight's game scrimmage, I should.

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Speaker 6: Say, yeah, scrimmage, Yeah, this is not a game.

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Speaker 4: Not a game.

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Speaker 5: I think the rebound effect of everybody really for the

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Speaker 5: going from the first day of pads to now the

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Speaker 5: second day of pads, how do you respond?

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Speaker 6: You know, do the mental.

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Speaker 5: Errors decrease or increase with that pressure? You know, the

865
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Speaker 5: mistakes you made two days ago, do they creep back in?

866
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Speaker 5: Did you learn from that mistake?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 5: If you're a dB working on the wide receiver stalk drill,

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Speaker 5: you know, do you now have a book on who

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Speaker 5: you're going against? Right, whether it's Keishawn Williams to Calvin

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Speaker 5: Austin to if you get the unholy matchup of going

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Speaker 5: up against DK Metcalf John new Smith. As a dB,

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Speaker 5: you want to know, hey, what does this guy like

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Speaker 5: to do? And what was he trying to do at

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Speaker 5: the point when he has to make the break?

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Speaker 6: You know? And what are the tails that I can

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Speaker 6: get offensive linemen? Right?

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Speaker 5: When a defensive lineman lines up against you in the

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Speaker 5: combo drills or the one on.

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Speaker 6: One pass rush, what's his tendencies? Did I watch film?

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Speaker 6: Did I pick up any keys or any cues?

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Speaker 5: And then of course for quarterbacks, right, you know, looking

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Speaker 5: at defense structure, how's that safety like to play when

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Speaker 5: he's going to spot, drop and zone?

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Speaker 6: What shoulder does he turn?

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Speaker 5: And can I manipulate that and get a play with

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Speaker 5: it to his back shoulder? Those are the things you're

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Speaker 5: kind of looking for and what I'm going to be

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Speaker 5: looking for. It's kind of a holistic view of the

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Speaker 5: entire team because I want to see how much cleaner

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Speaker 5: look because we saw too many jail breaks in Day one.

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Speaker 5: We saw breakdowns, you know, and like you said, defense

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Speaker 5: looked like it had a better day than the offense.

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Speaker 5: So I want to see it coming more back to

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Speaker 5: a fifty to fifty ratio versus kind of the sixty

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Speaker 5: five thirty five ratio that I felt like defense had

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Speaker 5: an edge on Day one. So I'm going to be

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Speaker 5: looking at all of that, and I think all of

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Speaker 5: it's going to kind of culminate in those team drives,

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Speaker 5: but you'll get a That's what I'm looking for. I

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Speaker 5: want a sense of okay, both this side's starting to

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Speaker 5: pick it up, they're starting to get it, and this

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Speaker 5: side's still keeping their same level.

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Speaker 4: If that makes sense, it does, Max.

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Speaker 3: Thank you as always I think we can leave our

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Speaker 3: listeners with the notion that if your life cannot be

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