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Speaker 1: Welcome to the best podcast available training competition. Here are

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Speaker 1: your hosts, Jason Gibbs, Andrew Gribble and Nick Shook, and

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Speaker 1: we welcome you into the best podcast available. We are

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Speaker 1: back after being off for a couple of days. We

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Speaker 1: were hardly off the podcast was off. I'm Jason Gibbs,

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Speaker 1: He's Nick Shook, He's Andrew Gribble. We played a preseason

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Speaker 1: game and we won. I'll take any win we can

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Speaker 1: get thirty to ten. Brown's beat the Washington Redskins last night. Uh. Today,

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Speaker 1: everybody back in the building for a practice. Might be

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Speaker 1: the first time in the sixteen plus years I've been

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Speaker 1: doing this that they had a practice the day after

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Speaker 1: a game. You know, a couple of college teams that

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Speaker 1: covered us to this. It wasn't open to media or

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Speaker 1: anything like that, but some teams. I think it was

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Speaker 1: Auburn when I covered Auburn, they used to like to

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Speaker 1: get back on the field the day after a game,

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Speaker 1: real game, like not even preseason game. Uh. They I

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Speaker 1: think they would just go through some stuff for about

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Speaker 1: after it, and then they would be off on Monday

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Speaker 1: and then resume their schedule on Tuesday. Maybe maybe that,

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Speaker 1: so some some people do it. It's just not not

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Speaker 1: not all that common and has not been common around

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Speaker 1: here until this year. The Freddy Kitchen's been that clear

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Speaker 1: doesn't care what you stappen in. Yeah, there's something to

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Speaker 1: the science of getting your body moving again the next

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Speaker 1: day to prevent long term strenus or something along those lines.

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Speaker 1: I know it's comedy. Get some type of activity in

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Speaker 1: a full practice, maybe not so much, but this wasn't

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Speaker 1: quite a full practice. So I've already used this material

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Speaker 1: a lerid today, but I'm gonna go back to it.

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Speaker 1: It's I call this the hair of the dog theory.

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Speaker 1: You knows best way to get rear football hangover more football.

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Speaker 1: I could use a little breather. We could have used

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Speaker 1: a little breather. We not necessarily, you guys, but they

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Speaker 1: did get some work in and we'll we'll quickly touch

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Speaker 1: on that here in just a few moments, obviously, though.

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Speaker 1: The news of the day, UH, and that is the

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Speaker 1: suspension of Antonio Callaway. UH suspended without pay for the

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Speaker 1: first four games of the two thousand nineteen regular season

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Speaker 1: for violating the NFL's Policy and Program on Substances of abuse. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Callaway who definitely didn't win anybody over when he first

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Speaker 1: came to camp, but has since played and practiced very

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Speaker 1: well in the last week week and a half. Just

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Speaker 1: just another setback, unfortunately for the second year pro. And

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Speaker 1: now he's gonna miss the first quarter of the football season.

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Speaker 1: Gribble A takeaway from you on this, Yeah, it's just

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Speaker 1: unfortunate because I think if this was an an isolated bubble,

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Speaker 1: would we wouldn't be making too much of a deal

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Speaker 1: with it. But this is the kind of stuff that's

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Speaker 1: kind of followed him throughout his career and the reason

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Speaker 1: is part of the calculated risk. But I think that

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Speaker 1: guys that are are show the commitment to getting better

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Speaker 1: it really is it's all about actions. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: from a football standpoint, it's a pretty significant loss, not

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Speaker 1: a devastating one, because you have Odell Beckham and Jarvis

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Speaker 1: on the team. You'll be fine. From a football standpoint,

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Speaker 1: You'd love to have him. He's a talented player and

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Speaker 1: really he it's just hurting himself a man that I

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Speaker 1: think he understands that, and hopefully when week five comes around,

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Speaker 1: contribute to the team because they can, they'll they'll find

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Speaker 1: ways to use them. There's a there's a section of

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Speaker 1: but again, you know, he has demonstrated to the people

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Speaker 1: long term, I don't think this is something to really

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Speaker 1: We you look at it, you just go, wow, how

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Speaker 1: this is Uh. When you look at this, this this

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Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, this might have been this

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Speaker 1: So for from Calais perspective, that's what he's missing out on.

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Speaker 1: I mean that that's that that'll If that doesn't wake

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Speaker 1: just it's it's tough, but I think hopefully at four

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Speaker 1: that when you make narrow down that fifty three man roster,

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Speaker 1: It's a job for four games. It's an NFL paycheck

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Speaker 1: of these guys. Exactly, absolutely, So you know, not all

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Speaker 1: negatives in this suspension. Yeah. The statement from Antonio Callaway,

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Speaker 1: I take full responsibility for my actions. I made a mistake,

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Speaker 1: It's on him here going forward to to determine and decide,

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Speaker 1: or if we're going to continue to have issues. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, Uh, last night we played a football game

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Speaker 1: and it was pretty impressive, and it started off with

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Speaker 1: lot of people probably haven't considered in this airing of

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Speaker 1: You know, there are days Baker doesn't look as crisp

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Speaker 1: he said, hold on before we talk, that's she he

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Speaker 1: over there at the podium. I gotta go get a

430
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,159
Speaker 1: picture of my guy she And he walks over and

431
00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,160
Speaker 1: takes a video him on his Instagram, points at him

432
00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,040
Speaker 1: and you know, that's my guy, it's she. You know,

433
00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,760
Speaker 1: they love each other, and and this guy especially because

434
00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 1: he's working really hard. You know, he before he went

435
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,840
Speaker 1: to the podium today he's working out in his helmet

436
00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 1: and a weight vest. And he walks over and I go,

437
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,719
Speaker 1: so you're gonna wear that in your interview And he goes, oh,

438
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,800
Speaker 1: I gotta go over there. And I said, yeah, in

439
00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,800
Speaker 1: front of the backdrop. This is your moment, man, And

440
00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,560
Speaker 1: I hope he gets another one. And I think his

441
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,200
Speaker 1: teammates agree. Yeah. It's just is the craziest scene. It

442
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,719
Speaker 1: took me a second he realized what was happening when

443
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,400
Speaker 1: those guys ran on the field. I was like, Oh,

444
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,919
Speaker 1: this is this is happening. They were running down the

445
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,639
Speaker 1: field with him. As he was running, they were running

446
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 1: with him. I mean, I pointed out to Donovan, I go,

447
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,679
Speaker 1: the whole team has cleared the bench. They were on

448
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 1: the field running with him. Mob scene. Just a fantastic moment.

449
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 1: So that is that's what happened. Those are our thoughts

450
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 1: from the game. Uh right now, Nick Shook had a

451
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,679
Speaker 1: chance to go one on one. You just mentioned it

452
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,359
Speaker 1: with Jalen Strong, who's been playing very very well and

453
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,879
Speaker 1: battling for those last wide receiver spots. Really come on

454
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 1: strong here in the last week. Have a listen. How

455
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,920
Speaker 1: you feeling so far after about two weeks at camp

456
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,400
Speaker 1: in a preseason game. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling, I think,

457
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 1: better than I've ever felt from health and physical standpoint,

458
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 1: UM and trying you know, really going on two weeks

459
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,640
Speaker 1: two weeks now, I'm not really sure, but I feel

460
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 1: pretty good. We had kind of talked about this in

461
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 1: the off season a little bit with your position coach

462
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 1: Adam Henry. He said that you had spent some time

463
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 1: trying to remake your body a little bit. What can

464
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 1: you say about that? UM, I just, you know, whatever

465
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 1: I didn't like about myself, UM from previous years. You know,

466
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 1: I just wanted to try something know different, and that's

467
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 1: taking care of my body, eating different and just putting

468
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,360
Speaker 1: in the work and trying to be able to just

469
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: play a full NFL season and do whatever I need

470
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 1: to do to have a team, you know, depend on

471
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 1: me to do whatever they need me to do. Did

472
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 1: you get leaner a game or muscle mass than then?

473
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 1: My body fed decreased so and I feel like, you know,

474
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 1: I feel stronger than I've ever felt. You've been with

475
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 1: this team. Now, you know, but four or five months

476
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,400
Speaker 1: around then, Um, have you have you hit a point

477
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 1: now where you feel like you kind of turned the

478
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 1: corner with them? Um? Actually, I feel like there's a

479
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 1: lot of work to be done. I do feel now,

480
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: I do feel like I made them improvements and um

481
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,360
Speaker 1: things that better my situation here in Cleveland. But it's

482
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 1: just about what being consistent every day. It's not really

483
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 1: about you know, what I've done. It's about what can

484
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 1: I do going forward? And that's more important to me

485
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 1: than anything just given you know coach Freddie, coach Henry,

486
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: coach Prief, those guys, giving those guys the thought that

487
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: they could depend on me in any situation. Um, so

488
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 1: that's what I'm trying to do. Just go out there

489
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: and work every day and be consistent as much as possible.

490
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 1: It seems like you might be earning that trust. You

491
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: seem to get more reps of the ones or at

492
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,880
Speaker 1: least the twos, but up in the top of the twos, Um, yeah,

493
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 1: I just I guess said, I just focus on what

494
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 1: I can control, and that's whenever I get the opportunity

495
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: to go all out and just trying to show the

496
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 1: coaches just from my play. Now I don't really I'm

497
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,199
Speaker 1: not really the biggest talker, you know, everybody knows that.

498
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,360
Speaker 1: But from when I get on the field, just trying

499
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 1: to show the coaches, you know that I want to

500
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: be here from my play. At what point, through the

501
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 1: whole knee injury and everything else, did you did did

502
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 1: you even have the start of occurred to you that

503
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I might never play again? Of course

504
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: about so where is the end of it? When you

505
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 1: know you start getting better, you started getting stronger, but

506
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 1: you feel like you've been forgotten about, so um, it

507
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 1: gets real, gets tough. But now I stayed focusing. I

508
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: had a great support system and stayed locked into what

509
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: the mission was. And now you know, things are looking

510
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 1: good and no matter what, just I'm thankful to being

511
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: this opportunity, you know. I'm just thankful that the Browns

512
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 1: gave me an opportunity to come in and work out

513
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 1: for him, Thankful that they still have had me here

514
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: with him in camp because a year ago I wasn't

515
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: in camp at all. So I look at things differently,

516
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Speaker 1: you know, and I just feel like I'm blessing any

517
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: way you look at it, you get any other calls

518
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: before the Browns. Uh No, I didn't. I had to

519
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: work out with the Raiders, but it wasn't really like

520
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 1: major interest there. They were going through a new GM

521
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: changed right when right after I worked out, they got

522
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: like a new GM or something, so it was like

523
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: no interest there anymore. And then the Browns called it

524
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: mid the late February, and then I felt the interest there.

525
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: I felt the loves soon as I got here, and

526
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: I wanted to perform for him, and they brought me in.

527
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: You feel like you're benefiting a little bit from playing

528
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: with Baker, of course, because I like Baker a lot,

529
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: because he has great communication. You know, if he doesn't

530
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: like something he tells you, and he really likes something

531
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 1: he tells you. So, um, that's big for any receiving

532
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 1: quarter to have a quarterback that communicates the way he does.

533
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: And then you know all the quarterbacks communicate well, and um,

534
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Speaker 1: you know that that's big for us and makes our job,

535
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: you know, easier. You know, they already have a whole

536
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: lot of stuff they have to do, and for them

537
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: to take the time out and get with us and

538
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: communicate the little details with us helps us a lot

539
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 1: as well. I saw you kind of do that today

540
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Speaker 1: at the end of practice where there was any completion

541
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Speaker 1: where it looks like you might have been some p

542
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: I and he came and asked you, what did he

543
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 1: push through your back? Is that the kind of thing

544
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 1: we're talking about? He? Oh, yeah, definitely that that's the communication. Um, um,

545
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: not exactly that, but you know the fact that he cares,

546
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 1: you know, he sees things the way we see things,

547
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: and I think that's that's big, especially for him to

548
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: be Now. I keep forgetting he's young, you know, it's

549
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: it's it's it's crazy that you know he's he's where

550
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: he is in his career and it's exciting to see,

551
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 1: you know, a guy like him to be able to

552
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: throw you the ball. You're still pretty young too, though.

553
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm twenty five, but I've been around the

554
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,959
Speaker 1: leaf a little bit. Where do you ultimately think you

555
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: see yourself with this team? Ultimately? I wondered where I

556
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: wanted to see myself is here? Uh you know when

557
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: it's all when when the fifty three is all said

558
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: and done. But you know, like I said, it's not

559
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: I just focus on things I can't control, and um,

560
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: what I can't control is going out there every rep,

561
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: every day, every practice, giving him my all, taking the

562
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: coaching and doing anything that I need to do to

563
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: stay here and be here with the Browns. This is

564
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: where I'm wanna be. You feel like he's improved a

565
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: lot since you got here. Oh, definitely. Um, from a

566
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: physical standpoint. You know, Coach Larry in the weight room,

567
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: he does he got me right. He has an excellent

568
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: strength strength staff. They do there, they're do an amazing

569
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: job and they all helped me work through my you know,

570
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: the end of of my rehab was still strengthening my

571
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: quad and my knee, and I think, you know, people

572
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: can see that I'm getting more comfortable out there every

573
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: day every rep. Um. Just you know, coming off the injury,

574
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: do you ever think about it when you're out there

575
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: on your knee? Never? I never think about it. But

576
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: that's but I don't think any football players think about

577
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: what's the boss and that they just go. But um,

578
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: I never think about it. We appreciate Jalen Strong's time

579
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 1: and uh shook. Here's a guy that kind of struggled

580
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: a little bit early on to get it going. But

581
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: in the past week and a half, much like Antonio Callaway,

582
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: some things have clicked. He's gotten comfortable, he's making plays now.

583
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: You know, he spent the whole last year out of

584
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: the league. He's coming off an a c L injury.

585
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: There were times where he thought, you know, maybe he

586
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: might never play again. Uh, and he has made the

587
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: most of his opportunity, especially late. But it does take

588
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 1: a while for you to get comfortable, both in a

589
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: new environment with a new team and also coming off

590
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: such a massive injury like that. You know, this is

591
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: a guy who thrived on his athleticism and had to

592
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: basically rebuild his way all the way back up. And

593
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: he's also rebuild his body, like he said, so you know,

594
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: it's all kind of coming together. And and I think

595
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: he's really benefited from playing with a guy like Baker Mayfield.

596
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: You know he talked about in the interview. He just

597
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 1: seems to be the type of receiver that fits the

598
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: mold or you know, within a system that Baker would

599
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: like to target. He's not your number one, but he

600
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: much like Richard Higgins. You know, I think he could

601
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: make a similar contribution if he were to land on

602
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: a roster, on this roster and get the opportunities, and

603
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: he's gotten them so far, he's really made the most

604
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: of the less you know, week and a half. I

605
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: was initially skeptical of his candidacy and because I thought

606
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: I thought his skill set might be redundant. Sure with

607
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: what what with what else you have on hand? But

608
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: it really does look like he's found a niche. And

609
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 1: I think at this stage, when you see a guy

610
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: get this many first team reps, you've got to be

611
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: a believer and and see that this guy's impressing the

612
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: coaches to the point where now you're and then now

613
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 1: you're add in the extra spot you're going to have

614
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 1: with Antonio Callaway for the first four weeks, I'd say

615
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: he's in a really good position. He just needs to

616
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: keep it up, all right. So again today's practice, there's

617
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: not a lot to talk about. I mean, they were

618
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: in shorts, first time in ten days that they have

619
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 1: not been past. And you don't want to read too

620
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: much into who was out there because there was a

621
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: lot of guys out there that haven't been for a while.

622
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: But that's because this team has been in pads for

623
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,479
Speaker 1: nine days. First day they were in pats. A lot

624
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: of guys are out there that are hurt, but they

625
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: might be back on the sidelines tomorrow when they when

626
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: they start hitting again. So tomorrow we we are back

627
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: to action, and I would think it's the tune up

628
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: in preparation for Indianapolis. What are you looking for tomorrow?

629
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: That's single it will be back to normal. I think

630
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: today was maybe a just a you know, walk through

631
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: kind of go through, work on some things, get some starters,

632
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: get their legs, keep moving. You also have that practice

633
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: Monday too, so we'll see how hard they go at

634
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: it next Monday. But I think Freddie Kitchens really wants

635
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: to show the best that the Browns have to offer

636
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: in these two practices in Indianapolis. So it wouldn't it

637
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't even surprise me tomorrow in Monday or not as

638
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: as school as we grew up Costome too, But you

639
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: know they're gonna get some work done. Yeah, I would agree.

640
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: Today felt like a almost like a walk through in season,

641
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: or just felt like a regular in season practice where

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Speaker 1: you're not hitting, you know, at all, you don't have

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Speaker 1: the pads on, and and it just kind of it

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Speaker 1: was a little bit cooler out. There was a breeze.

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Speaker 1: It was a different time a day felt like a

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Speaker 1: mid season practice, but with a bunch of fans and attendance,

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Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with that the day after a game.

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Speaker 1: And I think that they're going to prepare properly to

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Speaker 1: go against a team that made the playoffs last year,

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Speaker 1: and it's going to be a very good test for them,

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Speaker 1: starting in the trenches and moving outwards. So I think

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Speaker 1: he'll have his guys ready to go, and that will

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Speaker 1: include a couple of days of hidden Uh. Nice breeze

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Speaker 1: today too, good key from both of you on that

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Speaker 1: the breeze was fantastic. We could use that again tomorrow

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Speaker 1: and again on Monday maybe in Indianapolis one. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be really hot. Uh. One final thing before I let

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Speaker 1: you guys go, because it was a busy news week

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Speaker 1: news forty eight hours, I guess uh. Duke Johnson traded

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Speaker 1: to the Houston Texans um John Dorsey, making, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: pretty amazing get with a team, you know, negotiating with

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Speaker 1: a team that didn't have a GM and taking advantage

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Speaker 1: of the situation. Uh for with a coach who I

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Speaker 1: think is in a win now. Uh situation. Yeah, timing

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Speaker 1: caught me a little off guard, but the ultimate decision

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Speaker 1: to make a move didn't, especially when you see the compensation,

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Speaker 1: I think that that's where it made the most sense. Uh,

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Speaker 1: And it makes you maybe a little worried about your

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Speaker 1: current depth at running back. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a position where that there's a reason

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Speaker 1: that you can find some guys, and I think that

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Speaker 1: that's what they'll be looking for. Wouldn't surprise me if

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Speaker 1: you had a body or two in the next few weeks.

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Speaker 1: And then obviously, if you're talking about potential waiver claim editions,

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Speaker 1: that might be a position you hit on on aftercut

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Speaker 1: that yeah, there's gonna be some quality running backs you're

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Speaker 1: you know, released around the league when cut down day arrives.

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Speaker 1: And and you know that the staff also believes in

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Speaker 1: Dontrell Hilliard and even Deernest Johnson is doing a little

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Speaker 1: bit of stuff out there that that could make you think, well,

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Speaker 1: maybe he'll make this roster. So you know you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna have Kareem hunt for the first dad games. Nick

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Speaker 1: Chubb is the bona fide number one back in this backfield,

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Speaker 1: and it's very clear that he can handle both running

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Speaker 1: the ball and catching it, and uh, you know, you

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Speaker 1: got some potential and Hilliard who didn't have a great

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Speaker 1: preseason game but hold on to the football. So I

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Speaker 1: think he'll work on that. And I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: too worried about the depth situation going forward, So you know,

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Speaker 1: solid deal and uh, I think we all kind of

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Speaker 1: knew it was coming eventually. All right, Time to prepare

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Speaker 1: for Indianapolis. A practice on Saturday, a practice Monday, and

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Speaker 1: then we go to Indie for two days of joint

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Speaker 1: practices with the Colts that will wrap up a Friday.

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