WEBVTT - This Never Crossed My Transom 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:06.120 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:09.879 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:31.600 Armstrong and Getty, I know he Armstrong and Getty. 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:26.639 To the markets today, and would you be open to 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:30.240 a pause in tariffs to allow for negotiation. Well, we're 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:33.519 not look at that. We have many many countries that 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:36.640 are coming to negotiate deals with US, and they're going 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:40.000 to be fair deals, and in certain cases they're going 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:44.240 to be be paying substantial tariffs. They'll be fair deals. 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:44.680 Okay. 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:47.680 Politico and others are reporting that. On the phone with 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:50.479 various countries yesterday, Trump was saying, yeah, a pause is 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:53.000 coming sooner rather than later, and that sort of thing. 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:56.200 And that's the reason the markets are up today. Trump 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:58.520 of course can't say out loud that you know, this 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:01.560 tariff thing is winding or you know, you lose all 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:07.679 your leverage. But anyway, that's that's kind of the zeitgeist today. 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:12.080 The markets are leaping upward like a gazelle. 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:13.600 Funny. 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:19.920 And the other unspoken thing that is remaining unspoken is that, Okay, no, 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:24.200 I'm not driving towards some sort of isolationism. I just 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:27.680 want much lower tariffs for US goods, that post World 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.280 War two period is over. Let's get to something sane, 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:32.440 which is really what I was hoping he was driving at. 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:33.240 And I hope it works. 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:35.680 So I've got some polling around tariffs, but I'm not 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.840 sure they matter anymore, like as of an hour ago. 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:45.520 But anyway, Uh, first, this high school level gossip and 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.280 snark that we should be above. 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:51.320 And you know it good gossips. 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.639 What is the whole thing about? You know, successful people, 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:57.720 low level people talk about each other. 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.080 What is that whole thing? Essentially, the. 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:08.280 Weak minds speak of people, Mediocre minds discuss events, great 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:09.679 minds discuss ideas. 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.000 Okay, well I'm going to speak of people. So it 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:13.600 probably fits in with where my mind is. 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:18.320 So over the weekend, Elon got into it with Peter Navarro. 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:24.280 Peter Navarro is the trade advisor to Donald Trump, and 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:28.640 you know, and on all the TV shows tauton the 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:31.160 tariffs and why they're going to work and everything like that. 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:36.120 I mentioned the tweet yesterday where Elon Musk said having 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:39.639 a PhD in economics from Harvard is a bad thing, 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:42.400 not a good thing. He was speaking of Peter Navarro. 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.480 He said specifically, In that tweet, Peter Navarro ain't built 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:49.680 s in his life, and having a PhD from Harvard 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:50.280 is a bad thing. 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:52.600 Musk I'm reading here from the Daily Beast. 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:57.560 Musk who's openly expressed disdain for Ivy League institutions, commented 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:01.640 yup under a quote from USA economist Thomas Sowel that read, 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.760 in every disaster throughout American history, there always seems to 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:06.680 be a man from Harvard in the middle of it. 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:13.840 First of all, that's a fantastic quote. Secondly, it's fantastic 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.680 that Elon retweeted that and attached it to Peter Navarro. 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:22.800 It continues on U with a variety of things. 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:24.880 Now Peter Navarro has shot back, and then there's a 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:26.280 response from Elon after this. 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:30.279 But let's hear the Peter Navarro thing first. Commenting on Elon. 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:34.040 When it comes to tariffs and trade, we all understand 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.880 in the White House and the American people understand that 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:40.880 Elon's a car manufacturer, but he's not a car manufacturer. 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:42.080 He's a car assembler. 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.440 In many cases. If you go to his Texas plan, 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:49.600 A good part of the engines that he gets, which 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:53.080 in the EV case is the batteries come from Japan 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:57.360 and come from China. The electronics come from Taiwan, the 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:01.600 tires come what we want. The difference is in our 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:04.880 thinking and elons On this is that we want the 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:09.760 tires made in Akron, we want the transmissions made in Indianapolis. 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:13.760 We want the engines made in Flint and Saginaw, and 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:19.400 we want the cars manufactured here. It's like this business 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:23.880 model where BMW and Mercedes come in to Spartansburg, South 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:28.919 Carolina and have us assemble German engines and Austrian transmissions. 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:30.480 That doesn't work for America. 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:34.279 It's bad for our economics, it's bad for our national security. 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.200 We want them to come here with the Elon It's fine. 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:40.640 He's a carbman. If he's a car person, that's what 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:43.400 he does. And he wants the cheap foreign parts, and 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:45.960 we understand that. But we want him home. We want 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:50.400 them home. National security, economic sure, and everything's good with Elon. 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.800 So him calling Elon a car assembler, I guess, is 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:58.200 seen by some as a shot. Elon responded to that, 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:01.200 and this is like fifteen minutes ago. Navarro is truly 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:05.960 a moron. What he says here is demonstrably false. So 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:09.520 now He's just flat out called Peter Navarro, somebody that 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:11.760 he has I'm sure been in the Oval Office with 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.680 on multiple occasions over the last couple of months, as 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:17.400 two of the top advisors of the president. Truly a moron. 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:19.440 I don't know what Navarro was talking about there. I 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:21.560 don't know about the other stuff. I know I've bought 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:23.720 a lot of tires for Tesla's and they've all been 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.000 American tires. But so I don't know what he's talking 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:26.360 about there. 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:29.000 But how about this follow up tweet from elon Tesla 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:32.320 has the most American made cars. Navarro is dumber than 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:39.320 a sack of bricks. I love this sort of thing, 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:43.080 the ag Hamilton account on Twitter, which is one of 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:45.360 my favorites. Navarro has no idea what he's talking about 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:46.719 and doing substantial harm. 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:50.120 Yeah, I don't know about the computers and various things 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:52.200 he mentioned there, but I know for fact the tires 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:55.719 that I've purchased for my Tesla or American made tires 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.760 from an American company I think actually an acron. 0:05:58.480 --> 0:05:59.200 Which he just said. 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:01.719 So speaking of gossip, it was so good and I 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:02.240 don't know what. 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:03.120 I did with it. 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:06.720 The barrow was truly a moron, dumber than a sack 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:10.160 of bricks. There was a great Twitter thread from one 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:14.320 of Elon's baby mamas calling him out as well his 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:20.400 family life is at the outer one percent of crazy. 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:21.320 Yeah. 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:23.440 Yeah, Well, the separate topic. 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:28.120 I do not dig his view on a parenthood at all, 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:35.599 as I'm saying many times, no, or a reproduction or 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:36.680 marriage or whatever. 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.919 But yeah, you know, it's not. 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:43.040 While I enjoy snark and that sort of thing, it's 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.719 not insignificant that. 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:48.760 And I can't believe. 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.440 I'm the guy saying this, but the world's richest man 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:57.000 is jumping into this and calling like the brains of 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.920 the whole tariff structure a moron and dumb as a 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:01.279 sack of bricks. 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:07.520 Yeah, I would love to hear Donald Jay actually describe 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:12.600 his relationship with Peter Navarro and how he utilizes his skills. 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:16.920 I'm going to, you know, put that charitably. I think 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:21.360 Navarro may be the crazed attack dog straining at the 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:24.720 leash that Trump will put back in the kennel the 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:25.320 minute that. 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:26.480 He's not useful. 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:30.600 But he he is acting out the pretense that yes, 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.120 I am going to put up enormous trade barriers around 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:35.120 the United States from now till the end of time, 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:37.600 putting aside that that's impossible given our system where you 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:40.560 get elected every four years, blah blah blah. But and 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.840 Navarro is his attack dog, straining at the leash. But 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:45.960 it's becoming more and more clear that no, Trump just 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:50.080 wants sane levels of tariffs against the United States finally, 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:52.600 which is admirable in a good goal. 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.040 How popular are these right now? 0:07:55.400 --> 0:08:00.800 This polling was yesterday before stock market rebound, and all 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:03.400 these rumors are going around that Trump is telling people 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:05.800 on the phone no, no, no, no, you know, will negotiate 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:09.040 and not sounding quite as an absolutist on this stuff. 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:12.640 This is interesting to us, Joe and I. And you know, 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:14.760 how much should we talk about this? How much have 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:18.320 you been hearing about or paying attention to the tariff stuff? 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:23.400 A lot? Fifty six percent, A lot. I don't know 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:26.800 how many stories. Fifty six percent of people pay a 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:31.560 lot of attention to ever, right, and then some was 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:35.360 twenty five percent, So between a lot and some that's 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:35.640 you know. 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:40.720 Well, And I would suggest to you that in the 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:43.880 universe of humans, who might be inclined to listen to 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:47.360 the armstrong and Getty show that number is substantially higher 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:49.200 because that's a random sample of humans. 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:50.360 That's fifty six percent. 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:52.920 If someone a lot adds up to you know, eighty 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:58.560 percent would need my twe hundred there. Then when you 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:02.000 get to support or oppose among that crowd, oppose fifty 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:08.520 five support thirty seven, oppose fifty five support thirty seven. 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:13.120 You break it down by party, it's somewhat predictable. For Democrats, 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:19.880 ninety percent oppose independence, fifty two percent oppose. Republicans only 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:24.120 twenty percent oppose hanging in there. So here's a question 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.400 for you, unless you had more to get through. The 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.480 only interesting thing Democrats are paying a lot of attention 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:32.800 at higher numbers than Republicans for whatever reason. 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:37.520 The resistance We're back. That was a joke. 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:42.000 So is this all a giant art of the deal 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:47.680 style negotiation? A important element of which and this is 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.640 what always gets me with Trump, don't I don't like it, 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:54.120 And maybe I'm wrong. That's fine, I've been wrong before. 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:58.360 But a significant element of Trump's Art of the deal 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:04.160 thing is to so con fusion and chaos, which he 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:09.559 believes leads people to be more enthusiastic about making a deal. 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.000 Because not only do they want to reach the best 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:19.040 negotiated settlement they can in classic negotiation theory, but there's 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.800 also a feeling of this is craziness and I'm getting 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:25.920 a little freaked out here. He might be a nut. 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:29.200 Let's let's go ahead and cut a deal. Does it 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.760 feel like that to you? I mean, because, for instance, 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.040 the formula, here's what I'm thinking about. 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:35.000 I should have said this out loud. 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.480 The formula that they used for assigning the quote unquote 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:42.440 reciprocal tariffs was a mess. I mean, just utterly indefensible, 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:46.560 silly in a couple of different ways, and analysts all 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:49.559 over the world were saying, this doesn't make any sense 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:51.840 mathematically speaking. 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:54.400 Is that part of the sowing chaos? 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.840 Was that he just said throw a formula together with 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:00.199 high tariffs against people or. 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:05.800 Or was that actual sloppiness. I don't know. I think it's. 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:10.320 Yeah, well, I suppose you could call it sloppiness, but 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:13.400 I think it would be he would say, it doesn't matter, 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:15.520 it doesn't matter what the how I came to the numbers. 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:19.400 That's not the point, right right, Let's sew a little 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.880 chaos in the air. Everybody's going to come a run 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:26.600 and negotiate sane, actually reciprocal tariff levels that we haven't 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:28.160 seen since World War Two. 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:31.280 Well, a combination of so chaos and convince people that 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.480 I'm serious about this exactly. 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:37.840 Yeah, which is why Peter Navarro is still straining at 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:40.880 the leash, you know, barking at Elon Musk saying, no, 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.080 We're going to have maximum millist tariffs for the rest 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:44.520 of the history of mankind. 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:48.360 It's dumb as what a sack of bricks. Sack of bricks. 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:56.880 He is truly a moron, according to Elon mask And 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.600 that's so well. Quote. Oh, that's great, love that. Let 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:01.680 me get that again, because that is that is that 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.000 is too darn good. I'd never heard that before. 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:07.760 And every disaster throughout American history there always seems to 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:09.600 be a man from Harvard in the middle of it. 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:18.240 That's awesome, That's hilarious. Yeah, and probably true. 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:21.720 Oh yeah, you take the combination of I'm one of 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:25.560 the nation's leading intellectuals. Therefore I espouse ideas that the 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:29.359 average working person would find idiotic, which is true. Secondly, 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:33.280 look at my status. I have graduated from the most 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:37.440 elite of the elite institutions. Thou shalt listen to me, right, 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:43.319 you take those two things in concert, please between economic 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.200 ideas or you know Vietnam and Iraq, which had a 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.800 lot of Ivy League people behind it, And yeah, there's 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.880 plenty of examples of that. There are plenty of people 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:55.120 coming out of community colleges in Indiana who would listen 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:59.280 to the grand theories of Harvard types and say that's stupid, and. 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.920 They'd be right dumb as a sack of bricks. 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.839 Okay, we got a lot to get to, including de 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:15.400 extinction this Hourie. Mainstream media does such a bad job 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.559 of covering stories like the de extinction of the dire 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:20.240 wolf with only. 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.119 Isn't this cute? Look at these white. 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:27.320 Puppies and know of the any interesting intellectual discussion about 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.920 bringing back extinct spink species from ten thousand years ago? 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:32.640 So that will get to that coming up. 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:36.120 Gigantic wolves send ten footed shoulder with the teeth like 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:39.679 steak knives, no problem. Uh, so we'll have that for 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.080 you in just a couple of minutes. Brace yourselves in 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.560 listening to this clip. It is awful, but I have 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.640 a particular reason for asking for it. Go ahead, Michael, 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:49.600 I would like to. 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:53.280 See all Republican women or a new woman who vote 0:13:53.400 --> 0:14:00.320 voted for Republicans or Trump to be gang raped on 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:06.360 national television. I think that would be just very cathartic 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:15.840 for us normal humans to see these. I guess humans 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:23.960 just absolutely destroyed on national television. New mind for me. 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.080 He appeared to be in his mid twenties something like that, 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:32.760 And that's just not nutpicking to illustrate that progressives or monsters, 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.760 although some are a couple of things leap to mind. 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.840 First of all, disturbing new report reveals that violent political 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:42.800 rhetoric online, including calls for the murder of public figures 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:46.320 like Donald Trump, Elon Musk, and other things, is becoming 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:49.520 increasingly normalized, particularly on the left. 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:56.600 Yeah, I would say, specifically, what is the justification the 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.640 justif is their justification for the murder of Elon Musk 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:00.840 and Donald Trump. 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:08.760 All respondents, Let's see some at least partially justified. Is 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:13.440 thirty one percent? Well for Elon Musk first, left of center, 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:15.000 it's forty nine percent. 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:16.920 A lot of it is what I have been talking about. 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:18.520 It's the coin of the realm of you have to 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:20.200 be just so over the top, you have to be 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:23.240 so over the top online to feel like you cut 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:25.320 through this just the way everybody talks. I mean we 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.280 were talking about this the other day, with the stuff 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:32.160 we get. I mean just just ridiculously, you know, angry, 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:36.400 just beyond anything that makes sense at a radio show, 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:37.520 because that's. 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:38.600 The way people talk online. 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.120 And then there's one hundred percent ratio of you write 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:44.320 them back and say you seem really upset, here's what's 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:46.160 going on. They're like, hey, I'm so sorry. I flew 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.080 off the handle. I was out of line, So yeah, 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:49.880 you were, You act like an idiot. So I think 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:50.520 a lot of these. 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:53.400 People who want to gang repe Republican voters or kill 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:54.880 Elon Musk would be the same way. 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:58.160 But you can't normalize that kind of talk. You just can't. 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.520 Left of center Folk says the murder of Donald Trump 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:03.760 at least partially justified fifty five percent. 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:04.160 Yeah. 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:07.960 How about to destroying Tesla dealerships is at least partially 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:09.440 acceptable fifty eight percent. 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:10.680 Yeah, you can't. 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.200 Most of them, Like I said, most of them don't 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:16.760 mean it at all. But you can't. You can't pretend 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.800 like that because there are enough crazies that will do 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:25.920 this stuff. Yeah, the whole maniacs or people with terrible, 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:30.880 terrible ideas getting in reinforcement online. Because if your idea 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:34.040 is so effing stupid, only one person out of seventy 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:35.320 five thousand would. 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:36.040 Agree with you. 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:38.960 You could find hundreds or thousands of people who agree 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:42.680 with you online, but that's still a dumb effing idea. 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:46.560 How do we deal with this as a society? Can 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:53.440 we the reinforcement of lunatics online and lunatic movements and ideologies? 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:56.680 Will it never not be the way we talk online 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.720 to just be like incredibly over the top, I don't know. 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:04.840 You have to be a major cultural change where to 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:06.920 be said on this, and I'm sure we will. Bringing 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:11.040 back to life ancient species? Is that a good idea? 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:13.960 Armstrong and Getty. 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:23.040 Visit the. 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:27.280 Running So I. 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:29.520 Never watched Game of Thrones, so I didn't know the 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:30.640 dire wolf was a. 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:31.760 Thing on Game of Thrones. 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.840 I'm not sure I'd never even thought about a dire 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:38.879 wolf for a second in my life till yesterday. 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:42.800 One of the many extinct beasts that used to roll 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:44.280 the countryside. 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:44.800 Jack, I'll take your word for it. 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:48.280 For whatever reason, this had never crossed my uh transom 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:51.359 or whatever I was unaware of the dire wolf. But 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:55.400 so I watched the news last night. 0:17:55.760 --> 0:18:00.879 It's funny. We're just we're just a dumb people. 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:04.920 We're just so comfortable and happy in our news gives 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:09.120 us dumb news, so we can float through the day and. 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:12.840 Another killer storm raging across the country every damn night. 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:14.760 And I don't know why we're all treated like idiots. 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:16.240 Maybe because we act like idiots. 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:20.399 But so look at the headlines from today dot Com. 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:23.160 Extinct dire wolf seen on Game of Thrones has been 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:27.160 revived on ABC News, which we're gonna. 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:37.679 Well, let's play the ABC News clip. That was not 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:38.960 the dire fol clip. 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:43.080 That was chicken jockey from the Minecraft. 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:48.960 Yeah, Minecraft, where's our dire wolves? ABC News? This is 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:50.880 going well? Is not going well. 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:56.399 In a first for science biotech company Colossal Bioscience, it 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:59.640 says it brought the extinct dire wolf back to life, 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:03.200 species that hasn't walked the earth since the Stone Age. 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:07.359 We've taken a gray wolf genome, which is already genetically 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:11.000 ninety nine point five percent identical to dire wolves, and 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:15.359 we've edited those cells at multiple places in its DNA 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:18.359 sequence to contain the dire wolf version of the DNA. 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:20.600 The company tells us they're not stopping there. They plan 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:23.480 to have wooly mammoths roaming the earth again by twenty 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:27.000 twenty eight, but critics argue that this de extinction could 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:29.200 harm fragile ecosystems. 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:32.240 Back to you, So I played this for my son 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:36.879 last night, and he's super into evolution and all this. 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:40.119 I mean, he spends so much time like watching YouTube 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:42.159 videos and reading about this. He's really into this for 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:43.920 one thing, so I knew he would like this. So 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:46.240 I play him this new story and he puts his 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:48.080 hands on the side of his head and he starts. 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:50.320 Walking around the room like this said, I have so 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:52.840 many problems with this. There's so many problems. 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:57.840 First of all, dire wolves are not wolves, so this 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:00.560 doesn't make any sense. And the then he went to 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:02.520 his computer and was googling things and everything like that. 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:02.960 Stright. 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:07.760 So, as I pointed out, our domestic news coverage is all. 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.320 They've brought back the dire wolf for the first time 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:12.600 in thirteen fast and five hundred years, but an a 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:17.800 real news source, Unfortunately, like Al Jazeera, their headline has 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:21.479 the dire Wolf come back? No, it hasn't, or you know, 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:26.680 other other news outlets that are like real news point 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:31.159 out that that scientist you just heard from there, she 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:34.800 works for a company that is somehow trying to profit 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:38.040 off of pretending to bring back extinct animals. 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:41.280 Now, I don't know is exactly correct. That is what 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:41.800 they're doing. 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:43.600 Do you remember a few weeks ago we brought you 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:46.320 the story they're trying to revive the wooly mammoths. No, 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:50.399 they're trying to make hairy elephants. Well, right, they tweetd 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:52.200 the jeans of elephants to make them harry. 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:53.320 That's what they did here. 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:57.720 They they made a white, slightly bigger gray wolf. Now 0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:01.560 her saying dire wolves and wolves share ninety nine percent 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:05.080 of the genetics or whatever what they developed it. Well, 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:08.760 you've probably heard before. We're ninety nine percent the same 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:11.400 as a chimpanzee. But that don't mean we're the same thing. 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:13.919 So they did not make it on a date one 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:17.920 doesn't mean that their little direwolf puppy is a dire 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:20.040 wolf just because they got ninety nine percent of the way, 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:22.800 you know, see the example of humans and chimpanzees. 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:26.199 But ABC reports it breathlessly with a smile, and the 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:28.879 little puppies, and then one sentence about critics say it 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:33.119 could harm fragile ecosystems. Yeah, good report. May you dumb? 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:36.040 You should be ashamed of yourselves. You can't call it news, 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:41.399 well right, not news. It's eye candy for dopes. Eye 0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:42.560 candy for dopes. 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:45.440 So they used crisper technology, which has been around for 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:48.520 quite a few years now and is interesting and highly 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:50.760 troubling in the way that you can get there in 0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:55.720 their genetically modified genes, and for animals or people, they 0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:59.720 transferred the genetic material from a from a gray wolf 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:03.200 to a domestic dog. What they really wanted was white wolves, 0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:04.159 white gray wolves. 0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:10.720 That was their main thing, and and and got where 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:11.320 they wanted to be. 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:15.840 These three genetically engineered wolves may resemble the extinct dire wolf, 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:21.560 but they are just flat not according to actual scientists 0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:23.480 who aren't trying to profit from us. They're going to 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:26.520 be pretty big. So what is their game here? Though, 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:29.240 this company, Colossus, I think it's called what is their game? 0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:32.119 Are they going to have a I'll use Jurassic Park 0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:37.600 but sort of park and charge a bunch of money 0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:41.879 for people to go in and watch look at dire wolves? 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:44.600