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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty, I know he Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 3: To the markets today, and would you be open to

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Speaker 3: a pause in tariffs to allow for negotiation. Well, we're

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Speaker 3: not look at that. We have many many countries that

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Speaker 3: are coming to negotiate deals with US, and they're going

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Speaker 3: to be fair deals, and in certain cases they're going

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Speaker 3: to be be paying substantial tariffs. They'll be fair deals.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 5: Politico and others are reporting that. On the phone with

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Speaker 5: various countries yesterday, Trump was saying, yeah, a pause is

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Speaker 5: coming sooner rather than later, and that sort of thing.

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Speaker 5: And that's the reason the markets are up today. Trump

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Speaker 5: of course can't say out loud that you know, this

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Speaker 5: tariff thing is winding or you know, you lose all

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Speaker 5: your leverage. But anyway, that's that's kind of the zeitgeist today.

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Speaker 1: The markets are leaping upward like a gazelle.

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Speaker 4: Funny.

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Speaker 1: And the other unspoken thing that is remaining unspoken is that, Okay, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not driving towards some sort of isolationism. I just

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Speaker 1: want much lower tariffs for US goods, that post World

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Speaker 1: War two period is over. Let's get to something sane,

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Speaker 1: which is really what I was hoping he was driving at.

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Speaker 4: And I hope it works.

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Speaker 5: So I've got some polling around tariffs, but I'm not

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Speaker 5: sure they matter anymore, like as of an hour ago.

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Speaker 5: But anyway, Uh, first, this high school level gossip and

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Speaker 5: snark that we should be above.

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Speaker 4: And you know it good gossips.

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Speaker 5: What is the whole thing about? You know, successful people,

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Speaker 5: low level people talk about each other.

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Speaker 4: What is that whole thing? Essentially, the.

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Speaker 1: Weak minds speak of people, Mediocre minds discuss events, great

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Speaker 1: minds discuss ideas.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well I'm going to speak of people. So it

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Speaker 4: probably fits in with where my mind is.

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Speaker 5: So over the weekend, Elon got into it with Peter Navarro.

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Speaker 5: Peter Navarro is the trade advisor to Donald Trump, and

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Speaker 5: you know, and on all the TV shows tauton the

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Speaker 5: tariffs and why they're going to work and everything like that.

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Speaker 5: I mentioned the tweet yesterday where Elon Musk said having

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Speaker 5: a PhD in economics from Harvard is a bad thing,

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Speaker 5: not a good thing. He was speaking of Peter Navarro.

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Speaker 5: He said specifically, In that tweet, Peter Navarro ain't built

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Speaker 5: s in his life, and having a PhD from Harvard

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Speaker 5: is a bad thing.

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Speaker 4: Musk I'm reading here from the Daily Beast.

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Speaker 5: Musk who's openly expressed disdain for Ivy League institutions, commented

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Speaker 5: yup under a quote from USA economist Thomas Sowel that read,

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Speaker 5: in every disaster throughout American history, there always seems to

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Speaker 5: be a man from Harvard in the middle of it.

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Speaker 5: First of all, that's a fantastic quote. Secondly, it's fantastic

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Speaker 5: that Elon retweeted that and attached it to Peter Navarro.

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Speaker 4: It continues on U with a variety of things.

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Speaker 5: Now Peter Navarro has shot back, and then there's a

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Speaker 5: response from Elon after this.

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Speaker 4: But let's hear the Peter Navarro thing first. Commenting on Elon.

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Speaker 6: When it comes to tariffs and trade, we all understand

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Speaker 6: in the White House and the American people understand that

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Speaker 6: Elon's a car manufacturer, but he's not a car manufacturer.

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Speaker 4: He's a car assembler.

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Speaker 6: In many cases. If you go to his Texas plan,

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Speaker 6: A good part of the engines that he gets, which

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Speaker 6: in the EV case is the batteries come from Japan

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Speaker 6: and come from China. The electronics come from Taiwan, the

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Speaker 6: tires come what we want. The difference is in our

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Speaker 6: thinking and elons On this is that we want the

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Speaker 6: We want the engines made in Flint and Saginaw, and

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Speaker 6: we want the cars manufactured here. It's like this business

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Speaker 6: model where BMW and Mercedes come in to Spartansburg, South

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Speaker 4: That doesn't work for America.

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Speaker 6: It's bad for our economics, it's bad for our national security.

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Speaker 6: We want them to come here with the Elon It's fine.

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Speaker 6: He's a carbman. If he's a car person, that's what

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Speaker 6: he does. And he wants the cheap foreign parts, and

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Speaker 6: we understand that. But we want him home. We want

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Speaker 6: them home. National security, economic sure, and everything's good with Elon.

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Speaker 5: So him calling Elon a car assembler, I guess, is

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Speaker 5: seen by some as a shot. Elon responded to that,

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Speaker 5: and this is like fifteen minutes ago. Navarro is truly

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Speaker 5: a moron. What he says here is demonstrably false. So

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Speaker 5: now He's just flat out called Peter Navarro, somebody that

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Speaker 5: he has I'm sure been in the Oval Office with

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Speaker 5: two of the top advisors of the president. Truly a moron.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what Navarro was talking about there. I

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Speaker 5: don't know about the other stuff. I know I've bought

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Speaker 5: a lot of tires for Tesla's and they've all been

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Speaker 1: But how about this follow up tweet from elon Tesla

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Speaker 1: has the most American made cars. Navarro is dumber than

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Speaker 1: a sack of bricks. I love this sort of thing,

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Speaker 1: the ag Hamilton account on Twitter, which is one of

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Speaker 1: my favorites. Navarro has no idea what he's talking about

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Speaker 1: and doing substantial harm.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know about the computers and various things

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Speaker 5: he mentioned there, but I know for fact the tires

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Speaker 5: that I've purchased for my Tesla or American made tires

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Speaker 5: from an American company I think actually an acron.

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Speaker 4: Which he just said.

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Speaker 1: So speaking of gossip, it was so good and I

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Speaker 1: don't know what.

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Speaker 4: I did with it.

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Speaker 1: The barrow was truly a moron, dumber than a sack

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Speaker 1: of bricks. There was a great Twitter thread from one

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Speaker 1: of Elon's baby mamas calling him out as well his

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Speaker 1: family life is at the outer one percent of crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, the separate topic.

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Speaker 5: I do not dig his view on a parenthood at all,

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Speaker 5: as I'm saying many times, no, or a reproduction or

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Speaker 5: marriage or whatever.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, it's not.

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Speaker 5: While I enjoy snark and that sort of thing, it's

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Speaker 4: And I can't believe.

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Speaker 5: I'm the guy saying this, but the world's richest man

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Speaker 5: the whole tariff structure a moron and dumb as a

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Speaker 5: sack of bricks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to hear Donald Jay actually describe

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Speaker 1: his relationship with Peter Navarro and how he utilizes his skills.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to, you know, put that charitably. I think

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Speaker 1: Navarro may be the crazed attack dog straining at the

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Speaker 1: minute that.

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Speaker 4: He's not useful.

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Speaker 1: But he he is acting out the pretense that yes,

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Speaker 1: I am going to put up enormous trade barriers around

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Speaker 1: the United States from now till the end of time,

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Speaker 1: putting aside that that's impossible given our system where you

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Speaker 1: get elected every four years, blah blah blah. But and

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Speaker 1: Navarro is his attack dog, straining at the leash. But

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Speaker 1: it's becoming more and more clear that no, Trump just

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Speaker 1: wants sane levels of tariffs against the United States finally,

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Speaker 1: which is admirable in a good goal.

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Speaker 4: How popular are these right now?

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Speaker 5: This polling was yesterday before stock market rebound, and all

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Speaker 5: these rumors are going around that Trump is telling people

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Speaker 5: on the phone no, no, no, no, you know, will negotiate

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Speaker 5: and not sounding quite as an absolutist on this stuff.

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Speaker 5: This is interesting to us, Joe and I. And you know,

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Speaker 5: how much should we talk about this? How much have

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Speaker 5: you been hearing about or paying attention to the tariff stuff?

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Speaker 5: A lot? Fifty six percent, A lot. I don't know

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Speaker 5: how many stories. Fifty six percent of people pay a

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Speaker 5: lot of attention to ever, right, and then some was

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Speaker 1: Well, And I would suggest to you that in the

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Speaker 1: the armstrong and Getty show that number is substantially higher

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Speaker 4: That's fifty six percent.

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Speaker 5: If someone a lot adds up to you know, eighty

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Speaker 5: You break it down by party, it's somewhat predictable. For Democrats,

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Speaker 5: ninety percent oppose independence, fifty two percent oppose. Republicans only

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Speaker 5: twenty percent oppose hanging in there. So here's a question

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Speaker 4: The resistance We're back. That was a joke.

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Speaker 1: So is this all a giant art of the deal

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Speaker 1: style negotiation? A important element of which and this is

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Speaker 1: what always gets me with Trump, don't I don't like it,

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Speaker 1: And maybe I'm wrong. That's fine, I've been wrong before.

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Speaker 1: But a significant element of Trump's Art of the deal

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Speaker 1: believes leads people to be more enthusiastic about making a deal.

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Speaker 1: also a feeling of this is craziness and I'm getting

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Speaker 1: Let's let's go ahead and cut a deal. Does it

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Speaker 1: feel like that to you? I mean, because, for instance,

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Speaker 4: I should have said this out loud.

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Speaker 1: The formula that they used for assigning the quote unquote

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Speaker 1: reciprocal tariffs was a mess. I mean, just utterly indefensible,

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Speaker 4: Is that part of the sowing chaos?

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Speaker 1: Was that he just said throw a formula together with

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Speaker 4: Or was that actual sloppiness. I don't know. I think it's.

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Speaker 5: I think it would be he would say, it doesn't matter,

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Speaker 1: That's not the point, right right, Let's sew a little

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Speaker 1: chaos in the air. Everybody's going to come a run

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Speaker 1: and negotiate sane, actually reciprocal tariff levels that we haven't

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Speaker 5: Well, a combination of so chaos and convince people that

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Speaker 5: I'm serious about this exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is why Peter Navarro is still straining at

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Speaker 1: the leash, you know, barking at Elon Musk saying, no,

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Speaker 1: We're going to have maximum millist tariffs for the rest

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Speaker 1: of the history of mankind.

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Speaker 4: It's dumb as what a sack of bricks. Sack of bricks.

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Speaker 4: He is truly a moron, according to Elon mask And

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Speaker 4: me get that again, because that is that is that

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Speaker 4: is too darn good. I'd never heard that before.

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Speaker 5: And every disaster throughout American history there always seems to

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Speaker 4: That's awesome, That's hilarious. Yeah, and probably true.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you take the combination of I'm one of

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Speaker 1: the nation's leading intellectuals. Therefore I espouse ideas that the

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Speaker 1: average working person would find idiotic, which is true. Secondly,

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Speaker 1: look at my status. I have graduated from the most

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure I'd never even thought about a dire

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Speaker 9: The company tells us they're not stopping there. They plan

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Speaker 5: Back to you, So I played this for my son

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Speaker 5: So, as I pointed out, our domestic news coverage is all.

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Speaker 4: Now, I don't know is exactly correct. That is what

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Speaker 5: They they made a white, slightly bigger gray wolf. Now

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Speaker 5: So they used crisper technology, which has been around for

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Speaker 1: every evening, not even bothering to verify.

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Speaker 4: The simplest of facts.

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Speaker 5: And I'm not trying to just be like a cynic

444
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Speaker 5: poo pooing things.

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Speaker 4: You just told me something that's not true, is the thing?

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Speaker 1: Well, right, we pretending like it was, and you know

447
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Speaker 1: it's not. That's what bothers me, you know, it's not

448
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Speaker 1: they care enough to know it's not. If you scratch

449
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Speaker 1: the surface, you know that it's not exactly true.

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Speaker 4: So why why do we do this? And who cares

451
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Speaker 4: about the dire wolf? But it factors in with all

452
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Speaker 4: our other.

453
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Speaker 5: Stuff, our economic re porting, in our political stories and

454
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Speaker 5: all the other stuff.

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Speaker 4: Why do they treat us like we're morons?

456
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Speaker 5: It's their business plan. Why does it work? I guess

457
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Speaker 5: although it's not working there as well.

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Speaker 1: As it used to No, indeed, well it's not nearly

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Speaker 1: as good as it used to be. I would like

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Speaker 1: to know. To get inside the head of the media

461
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Speaker 1: elite would be very difficult because they are, as we've

462
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Speaker 1: said a thousand times, a very very small and very

463
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Speaker 1: strange subculture. They live lives totally foreign to the vast

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Speaker 1: majority of Americans. They have attitudes that are just bizarre

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Speaker 1: to the vast majority of Americans. They believe things that

466
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Speaker 1: practically nobody believes out in the country, and yet they

467
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Speaker 1: are our source of so much information. It's unhealthy, and

468
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Speaker 1: people are sensing that and unplugging, which I think is good.

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Speaker 5: Mit Technology Review, which sounds like a you know, more

470
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Speaker 5: serious publication.

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Speaker 4: Game of Clones.

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Speaker 5: Colossals New Wolves are cute, but are they dire and

473
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Speaker 5: then they explain how they're not dire wolves. But like

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Speaker 5: I said, Today dot Com, which is NBC, the extinct

475
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Speaker 5: dire wolf is back, as seen on Game of Throne.

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Speaker 5: So I mean, that's just for the dumbest befo. Same

477
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Speaker 5: company that runs Today dot Com though, is NBC, and

478
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Speaker 5: their headline was a much more reasonable scientists genetically engineered

479
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Speaker 5: wolves with white hair like the extinct dire wolf, so

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Speaker 5: making no claim whatsoever other than we changed the.

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Speaker 4: Air color of gray wolves.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this is getting more interesting to me. So

484
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Speaker 1: like back in the day when General Motors had and

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Speaker 1: I don't remember this specific order, but they intentionally had

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Speaker 1: a buick for entry level car buyers.

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Speaker 4: Then is your salary group. Perhaps you would move up to.

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Speaker 1: A Pontiac and then eventually you're gonna buy yourself a Cadillac,

489
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Speaker 1: but they are all GM cars. So NBC News division

490
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Speaker 1: evidently has a series of offerings for the half wit,

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Speaker 1: the third wit, and the tragic quarter wit. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're true paste eating morons, and that would be Today

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Speaker 1: dot Com or the ABC Nightly News. Yeah, that's for

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Speaker 1: the true knuckle deep nose pickers.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because what they did is they altered gray wolves

496
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Speaker 5: to make their hair white. That's almost the end of

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Speaker 5: My son, in a really weird way, is stumping around

531
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Speaker 5: the bedroom, his hands on his head. The dire wolf

532
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Speaker 5: is more related to a Hyaena. It split with the

533
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Speaker 5: dog a million years ago. It's not even all this

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Speaker 5: sort of stuff. But then he said, but ultimately, why

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Speaker 5: why are we doing this? And I thought that is

536
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Speaker 5: a really good question. Why are we doing this? Why

537
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Speaker 5: I would imagine we'll have the technological ability to actually

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Speaker 5: bring back a William mammoth or a Drewil for whatever it's,

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Speaker 5: or a dinosaur like you know, Jurassic Park. Why would

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Speaker 5: mankind do that just because hey, that'd be cool. Doesn't

542
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Speaker 5: seem like a good enough reason with all the possible downsides.

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Speaker 1: Oh right, Yeah, well, I think the current state of

544
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Speaker 1: things is you have well meaning people who think these

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Speaker 1: species are extinct. That's very sad. Let's make them unextinct,

546
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Speaker 1: which is fine, And then you've got the people who

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Speaker 1: could actually do it, and they're just at this point

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Speaker 1: based on profiting from halfwitz I think.

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Speaker 4: But that's a weird view of the world.

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Speaker 5: If you're concerned about species going extinct today because you know,

551
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Speaker 5: they turned a big chunk of the rainforest into a

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Speaker 5: mall and you lost a beast, I.

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Speaker 4: Can understand being sad about that, But.

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Speaker 5: Things that went extinct tens of thousands of years ago,

555
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Speaker 5: that sounds like that was nature's plan to me.

556
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Speaker 4: So you're sad. What if they're.

557
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Speaker 1: Hunted to extinction by man, for instance? Is that a

558
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Speaker 1: different case?

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Speaker 5: That seems like a weird anti man bias for some reason.

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Speaker 5: I mean, thirty five thousand years ago, you don't think

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Speaker 5: that that that's Are we not part of nature?

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Speaker 4: Mankind?

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Speaker 1: That's great question. Yeah, yeah, I was not arguing a point.

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Speaker 1: I was just curious to know you're a point.

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Speaker 4: I don't know where you cut it off.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty if animals are big, slow, lumbering, and delicious,

567
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Speaker 1: I are not going to last and delicious, right, And

568
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Speaker 1: there are plenty of beasts that went extinct without mankind

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Speaker 1: being involved at all.

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Speaker 5: All your dinosaurs. You're sad about that, and they need

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Speaker 5: to be brought back. I just I don't even understand

572
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Speaker 5: the theory on that anyway.

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Speaker 1: The three great threats facing the United States of America,

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Speaker 1: I have identified them for you begin fighting them in

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Speaker 1: a moment.

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Speaker 5: Oh boy, on the way DARPA. Do you think DARPA's

577
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Speaker 5: behind bringing back the dire Wolf? Like we're gonna release

578
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Speaker 5: it on the Chinese or something?

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Speaker 4: Oh maybe maybe?

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Speaker 1: A certain commentator texted me privately, never mind the dire Wolf,

581
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Speaker 1: bring back free market Republicans.

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Speaker 4: And make them wooly. I said, why not make them wooly?

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Speaker 1: Uh? So, oh, these are odd times, speaking of which,

584
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Speaker 1: so we could easily have done an hour or two

585
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Speaker 1: or three on what I'm going to hit you with.

586
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Speaker 1: But we're up against a heartbreak, So it's going to

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Speaker 1: be very brief, and we can elaborate through the hours

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Speaker 1: and days and weeks ahead. But I'm scanning all of

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Speaker 1: the news stories have assembled in various groups to talk

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Speaker 1: about today or later on in the week, and they

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Speaker 1: really fall into three distinct threats to the United States

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Speaker 1: Western civilization. Number one is our own bloat and decade,

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Speaker 1: and we're talking about the labor participation rate among working personal.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I was talking about you.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to be too hurtful, but yes, no, no,

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Speaker 1: As a society, we are very, very soft.

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Speaker 4: Decadent is the right word.

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Speaker 1: We are so comfortable and wealthy that we have lost

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Speaker 1: the ability to fend for ourselves. And how that works

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Speaker 1: itself out is anybody's guests, the you know, the unbreakable

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Speaker 1: cycle of civilizations that hard times make for tough people,

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Speaker 1: Tough people make for good times, good times make for

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Speaker 1: soft people.

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Speaker 4: Saw people make for hard times, don't. I don't know

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Speaker 4: how you get out of that.

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Speaker 1: But the number two threat is call it the neo Marxists,

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Speaker 1: the woke, the postmodernists that want to tear down Western civilization.

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Speaker 1: And the thing I want to say about that, and

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Speaker 1: this one I could bring you all sorts of details,

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Speaker 1: is that there's a feeling even I get it now

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Speaker 1: that partly because of what's Trump's doing, Rain and in

612
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Speaker 1: the universities and corporations like hitting reverse on the DEI

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Speaker 1: programs in a liminating those offices. It feels like progress

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Speaker 1: is being made. I can bring you ten great examples

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Speaker 1: of how the DEI neo Marxist thing is forging ahead

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Speaker 1: and growing, especially in education in the United States and

617
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Speaker 1: Britain too. But our educational system is perhaps and I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to be hyperbolic here because I try to

619
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Speaker 1: avoid that, I think our education system k through graduate

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Speaker 1: school is the threat to the United States that could

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Speaker 1: bring us down.

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Speaker 4: I agree with Lincoln. No external threat could bring us down.

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Speaker 1: China's getting fearsome enough that it could be a serious problem.

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Speaker 1: But the internal threat Lincoln spoke of is our educational systems.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting.

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Speaker 5: I remember when Jordan Peterson said our university system is

627
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Speaker 5: now a net negative for the country, and I thought, wow,

628
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Speaker 5: that's a pretty strong statement.

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Speaker 4: But right, yeah, I agree with them.

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Speaker 1: And then the third fund of mental threat I think

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Speaker 1: to our beloved Republic is Islamism, fundamentalist Islam, Shariasm, whatever

632
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Speaker 1: you want to call it, which is on the march

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Speaker 1: all over the world. We talk about it among the

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Speaker 1: Palestinians and Hamas and how they're willing to see as

635
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Speaker 1: many of their own children slaughter to bring the glory

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Speaker 1: of Allah to the earth. Islamism is fundamentally and flamingly

637
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Speaker 1: incompatible with Western civilization and our constitution, in particular, Sharia

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Speaker 1: Lah cannot be laid over or around our constitution.

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Speaker 4: It's impossible. And Iran's trying to get the bomb, which

640
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Speaker 4: would not be good. Yeah, And.

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Speaker 1: Hundreds of millions of people around the world, certainly not

642
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Speaker 1: all Muslims, but many, many of them, their fondest goal,

643
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Speaker 1: their most beautiful dream, is that Islam conquers the world

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Speaker 1: and we all live under Sharia law. And post post

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Speaker 1: nine to eleven, I think a lot of us in

646
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Speaker 1: the West thought, well that's over.

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Speaker 4: Thank goodness.

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Speaker 1: Osama bin Laden is gone, and you know we've battered

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Speaker 1: Hamas and Hezblas. Oh, okay, we're done. We're done. We're

650
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Speaker 1: not within a thousand years of being done.

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Speaker 5: Well, they certainly don't think so. In Europe, No, Germany, France,

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Speaker 5: Great Britain.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, where they bought the argument that multiculturalism is wonderful

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Speaker 1: and that these people just want to assimilate and love

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Speaker 1: Germany and we can all.

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Speaker 4: Live side by side. No, you can't have people with fundamentally.

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Speaker 1: Incompatible cultural beliefs, political beliefs, leturgous beliefs mixing Happily, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't happen. I mean, it could conceivably happen in certain

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Speaker 1: settings that are strictly controlled, but it's a dangerous thing anyway,

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Speaker 1: more on all those things to come.

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Speaker 5: We are so lucky that Joe almost went to life school,

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Speaker 5: law school, and life school, that Joe almost went to

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Speaker 5: law school, so he can tell us what the Supreme

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Speaker 5: Court ruling meant yesterday around the whole immigration thing.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've read like three books about the law too,

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Speaker 1: So I'm ready to go cool.

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Speaker 4: We'll get to that hour three.

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