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Speaker 1: Hey guys, and welcome back to another week of Casual Chaos.

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Speaker 1: This week, I have two of my Special Forces castmates

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Speaker 1: and one of the couples that were chosen to be

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Speaker 1: on Special Forces, Sean and Andrew. Welcome to Casual Chaos

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Speaker 1: that you. I'm so happy to see you guys. Even

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Speaker 1: though it's over Zoom, we have to get together soon.

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Speaker 1: Let's start off, how did this opportunity come to you? Guys?

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Speaker 2: They reached out. They have been reaching out and trying

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Speaker 2: to get me on the show since the origination, but

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Speaker 2: every season that they reached out, I was either pregnant

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Speaker 2: or postpartum. And in this season they came with the

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Speaker 2: double whammy and they said how about you both be

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Speaker 2: on it? And that one was hard to turn down.

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Speaker 3: I think they wanted Sean so bad that the star.

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Speaker 2: Ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Well, what a journey it was, Gee, what a journey really?

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Speaker 1: And I heard you was kind of talking on some

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Speaker 1: of your podcasts that you felt like this brought you

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Speaker 1: guys closer and because Andrew, you never saw Sean compete,

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Speaker 1: so this was really fun for you to see her

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Speaker 1: in a competitive aspect. And I thought that that was

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Speaker 1: just so amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it brought us closer, but kind of

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Speaker 3: in like a weird way, and that one that I

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Speaker 3: would recommend to everybody. But it was really really fun

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Speaker 3: to see Sean in a whole different element. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I've gotten to know the post gymnastic Sean, the mom Sean,

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Speaker 3: the wife Sean. I have not really seen the fierce,

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Speaker 3: ferocious Sean in its full glory. So this was like

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Speaker 3: an amazing act. Yeah. No, it was terrifying around the

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Speaker 3: house for the training and everything leading up to it. Gee,

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Speaker 3: she was like the whole vibe of he.

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Speaker 1: I could only imagine. And Sean, you were telling me

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Speaker 1: how you really did train. You were wearing the weighted vest,

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Speaker 1: Like what did you do to train yourself for? Same

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Speaker 1: with you, Andrew.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I had just had three babies, so the

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Speaker 2: past six years, I've had three sea sections and really

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Speaker 2: not been training seriously. And going into this show, I

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Speaker 2: had kind of already been on this journey to like

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Speaker 2: I knew I was done having kids. I knew I

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Speaker 2: wasn't gonna, like, you know, be having another sea section,

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Speaker 2: so I really wanted to kind of get back to

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Speaker 2: feeling strong again and rehabing myself and then came the

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Speaker 2: offer to the show, and so I was like, I

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Speaker 2: need to take it up a notch. My fear was

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Speaker 2: just getting hurt, especially having three babies at home. Coming

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Speaker 2: be able to come back home and still be mom,

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Speaker 2: and so I decided to. You know, I bought the

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Speaker 2: weighted best. I bought a sixty pound weighted best because I.

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Speaker 3: Was so overto so so way more than we needed to.

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Speaker 1: So we had thirty pound Burgans, but of course Sean

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Speaker 1: had the sixty pound.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to make sure I could do it.

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Speaker 2: And I mean similar to like you being a smaller girl.

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Speaker 2: I knew from previous seasons having watched them that it

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Speaker 2: was all equal, so like, it's not like we had

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Speaker 2: to carry less or smaller items because we were smaller.

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Speaker 2: And I never want to feel like I can't do

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Speaker 2: something because of my size. So I tried to overcompensate

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Speaker 2: for that. So I had a private trainer who would

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Speaker 3: And she's not a morning person, g Is. She was

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Speaker 3: waking up at four thirty doing these morning workouts. It

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Speaker 3: was insane. I mean, she took it to another level.

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Speaker 3: The one thing from the show that.

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Speaker 1: Did you follow her lead?

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Speaker 3: No, no, we try not to work out together. It's

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Speaker 3: like must be for a disaster.

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Speaker 2: We do everything else together, but we do not work

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Speaker 3: But do you remember when they had us hold the

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Speaker 3: burgens over our head and everybody, myself included, was trembling

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Speaker 3: because you know you're up there for like over a minute.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and Sean was just stone cold, just did

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Speaker 2: I remember Foxy walk right by me and looked for

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Speaker 2: me goes, you're freak. Yeah, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: My favorite line, and I'm sure you've seen the reel

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Speaker 1: of this when Billy came up to you right when

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Speaker 1: and Billy was like, what do you do? And you

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Speaker 1: said gymnasts and he goes, yeah, you're flippy flopping all

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Speaker 1: It was like the most insane thing I've ever seen,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if gymnastics helped, but.

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Speaker 1: I think it definitely helped your mindset. You were just

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Speaker 1: I felt like you listened to every order that the

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Speaker 1: But something that I also because we got so close,

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Speaker 1: especially during the first interrogation, because we were Team Alpha together,

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Speaker 1: I really saw how you were so hard on yourself

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Speaker 1: you led us to victory. You fully led us to victory,

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Speaker 1: and you pushed us all so much. And we got

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Speaker 1: kind of beating yourself up, and I didn't understand it

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Speaker 1: because I was like, Sean, you're so amazing. You just

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Speaker 1: I wonder if that like affected you during Special Forces.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I was not used to such harsh criticism, and

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Speaker 2: I feel like coming from gymnastics, I could take criticism

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Speaker 2: We have to do it again, let's fix it. But

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Speaker 2: it's always like constructive. And so it was such a

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Speaker 2: humbling the rewiring of your brain that first twenty four

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Speaker 2: then I was just like I don't know how to

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Speaker 2: It was just very confusing to me. So I feel

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Speaker 2: this was more about like what can you handle?

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Speaker 3: It was really funny to you, gee, it's your credit.

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Speaker 3: So like Sean, for sure, I think embodied the athletic

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Speaker 3: I think all the athletes, like with athletic backgrounds kind

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Speaker 3: were scared, intimidating. It was like flashbacks to coaches because

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Speaker 3: To her credit, I'm so envious because she had like

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Speaker 3: but it wasn't. I mean for me, it was out

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Speaker 2: You would fire back at the DS so easily. I

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Speaker 3: Know, it's so unnatural as an athlete where you're like,

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Speaker 1: So funny, it was so true, and I just felt

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Speaker 3: And you wouldn't say that to him though. That's what's crazy.

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Speaker 3: It's so funny.

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Speaker 2: My favorite it like is on replay. In my mind,

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Speaker 2: my favorite moment is you're doing a challenge I won't

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Speaker 2: you were panicking, you were getting nervous and scared, and

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Speaker 2: And he was. He was even shocked, and he was like,

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Speaker 1: And honestly, I think Foxy and I had the most

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Speaker 1: felt the love a little bit from like Rudy, Q

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Speaker 1: And when I felt that from him, I was like, well,

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Speaker 2: I feel like I felt like I felt that with Q.

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Speaker 2: From the beginning. I was like, you, he's gonna be

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Speaker 2: and then broke through the wall at some point, But

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Speaker 3: I was terrified. I was terrib them all.

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Speaker 2: To be honest with you, could you have the hardest

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Speaker 3: Probably cute Rudy, Yeah, because you're just like, I don't

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Speaker 1: Times, yeah, Q had I feel like Q and Billy

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so true.

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Speaker 1: Did you guys talk to anybody from previous seasons to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a couple of friends who did it. Uh,

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Speaker 3: Savannah christ Is on the show, Buddy Miller, Golden Tate,

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Speaker 3: Jojoe Joe was on the show. So we would kind

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Speaker 3: it as hard as it looked? And they're like harder

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Speaker 3: can't prepare for it, like, yeah, it was insane. You

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Speaker 3: You can't put yourself in a position to like practice

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Speaker 3: that it's just so unique, and we're like skeptics.

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Speaker 2: So every single time someone would say it's so much

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Speaker 2: harder than like the show shows, we're like, oh but really, yeah,

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Speaker 2: like it can't possibly be harder.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they were right.

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Speaker 1: We all were even saying it, even in our group chats.

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Speaker 1: I was texting Bree on the side and Randall was like,

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Speaker 1: the first episode was nothing like what it was like there.

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Speaker 1: They made this look so much easier, and I think

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Speaker 3: that been for you?

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00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 1: One hundred percent? And I even felt that with some

439
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 1: of the people that were on our cast, obviously just

440
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 1: seeing what they've gone through, and I've been having conversations

441
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 1: with people as well, and I'm like, that could be

442
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: your opinion, but I genuinely love this person. Yeah, And

443
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: this is the connection that I felt with them. There

444
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: were certain friends of mine who would ask me about

445
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: cast members and talk about their past and I'm like,

446
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 1: but I knew them for who they were on the course,

447
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: and they were so nice to me. I have such

448
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 1: a genuine connection with them, and this is my opinion

449
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:05,239
Speaker 1: on them. So I kind of just disassociated anything that

450
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: online says about them and just I look at them

451
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: how we met them on Special Forces.

452
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 2: I actually said, this is something that day because they're

453
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 2: asking about cast members, and I said it, it was

454
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 2: fascinating because every single day we would do three or

455
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 2: four different things and would be you know, put in

456
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 2: groups of two or three or five or whatever, and

457
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 2: so we really got to know people on a very

458
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 2: intimate level. And I don't think I could name a

459
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 2: single cast member that I wouldn't trust to have my

460
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 2: back on a course like that, where like explosions are

461
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: going off and it's life or death, and every single

462
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 2: person I trusted to truly like help me, save me,

463
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 2: encourage me, be there for me, and says you. It's

464
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 2: like you'd come home and you're like, WHOA, don't talk

465
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 2: about my person.

466
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 1: That way, you know, literally, And it's so funny because

467
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 1: I even try to explain things to my boyfriend Christian,

468
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: and during some of the challenges, I'm like, no, but

469
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: you don't understand, like this is how hard it was,

470
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: and it's like, this is what's happening, and like you

471
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: guys were saying, it really is so difficult because I'm

472
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: trying to explain it to him, like to the nitty

473
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: gritty yeah, and he's like I would love to, like

474
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: he is so adventurous he goes, I would love to

475
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 1: do this. I would do this for free. This is amazing,

476
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: like he would have he would love to do Special Forces,

477
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: and he thinks it's so cool that like I was

478
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: able to do it, but actually explaining to him like, okay,

479
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 1: this was the first episode, but this is actually how

480
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: hard it was, Like it's so difficult. So it really

481
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: is so nice that you guys had each other because

482
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 1: at least you two get it as partners, like and

483
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 1: you guys are like, okay, at least we understand it.

484
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 2: It's actually interesting too, something that's hard to capture on

485
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 2: TV is kind of like you were saying, they are

486
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: so good at simulating and driving this feeling inside of

487
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: you of like fight or fly the right fight or fight? Yeah, yeah,

488
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 2: to where yes there's cameras around, and yes it's like

489
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: not real, but I truly felt like I was in

490
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 2: I'm About to Die about.

491
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 3: They sent us some clips to use for social media

492
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 3: for episode three, and they have the explosions on there,

493
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 3: and as we're watching, we're like, that looks so late,

494
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: Like it doesn't look nearly as intense as what it

495
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 3: was when you had the explosions, dirt flying in front

496
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 3: of your face. I felt like Q was just riding us,

497
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 3: yelling at us. He's like Juste's like, come on, guys,

498
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 3: and in the moment's.

499
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 1: I know so different. Every single one of us got

500
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: out of that challenge like that was the hardest thing

501
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: of my life, hyperventilated. I had three bourgains walking out

502
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: of that. Mark wanted to kill me because I kept

503
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: dropping the body, like.

504
00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: The poor body. The guy, the actual guy actually kind

505
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 2: of cussed. By the end of that.

506
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: I had to like and there must have been a

507
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: weighted best on him.

508
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 2: There has been.

509
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: It was so heavy.

510
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 3: And the edges of that sled on the handles was

511
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 3: just like hard metal. It was so hot, so hot.

512
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: There's a there's a from the raw footage that we got.

513
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: There's a clip of me and my uh and like

514
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 1: my raw footage that they sent me, and I go,

515
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: my hands are so cut up right now, like the

516
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: blisters are insane. But yeah, that was I don't know.

517
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: I felt like that challenge didn't look as hard either,

518
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: But I think the latter challenge you can't like that

519
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: was hard. I mean, actually, there's probably a walk in

520
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 1: the park. I probably thought it was a balance be.

521
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 2: I didn't mind that one at all. I actually thought

522
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 2: that one was a little I got yelled at for that.

523
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're I don't know if this

524
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 2: was fully shown, but there's a part where I jumping

525
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 2: over the walls and then then the first go over

526
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 2: the ladder and I go over the ladder like kind

527
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: of fast because it didn't make it didn't make me

528
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: feel scared at all. No, yeah, and Q He's like,

529
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: how was that? And I said the wrong thing, but

530
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 2: I go kind of fun and he flipped a switch

531
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: and he goes you think this is just and he's

532
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: like cussing me out, dude.

533
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 3: It was so confusing because sometimes they would make jokes

534
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 3: with you, like Billy one makes jokes, and then if

535
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 3: you try to joke back, sometimes he would be friendly

536
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 3: to it. Other times they'd switch into like yelling at

537
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 3: you mode. You're like, wait a minute, I thought we

538
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 3: were having like I thought we were five and I

539
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 3: was having a good time.

540
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: No exactly said.

541
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 2: I was like, this was my career, like fights in

542
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 2: small things don't scare me.

543
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

544
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: I was like I'm sorry, No, it was so funny.

545
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: When I first started, I was like inching up the

546
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: slowest ever, and they were like number eighteen, let's go,

547
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: asked her. And then I finally started running along the pegs.

548
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: But at first I was going as slow as molasses.

549
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: I was shaking, like trembling, and I mean, I can

550
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: only imagine how you felt. Andrew like that was so

551
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: so that was like scary and you guys are big guys.

552
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 3: The ladder, yeah, yeah, so the ladder definitely like the

553
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 3: weight aspect of it. I was given the ladder a

554
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 3: hard time just because I have weigh two hundred and

555
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 3: twenty five pounds and this thing was bending to the max.

556
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 3: But honestly, Sean and I got to do that together.

557
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 3: So she did it, and I was like, I mean,

558
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 3: Sean's dominating the whole time up to this point, and

559
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: I was like, I have this is the one thing

560
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 3: that I might be able to beat her in because

561
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 3: she went first, and so I was just like locked

562
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: in on getting to the other side as fast as

563
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: possible because we had a little cheeky competition going on.

564
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: He said, the Stopwatch on his actual watch and he

565
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: did it in yeah yeah, and then he got yelled at.

566
00:28:54,520 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 3: He didn't worry. You did not like that either. Game anyway. Yeah, dude,

567
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 3: the wind was like serious business up there.

568
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: Serious. Yeah, but I mean just because of like the

569
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: guys that were your size Andrew, like I know, Nick

570
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: was like panicking.

571
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: My favorite line of the whole, like all of Nick

572
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: was I don't want to be an army man no more.

573
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: You said that all the.

574
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: Time, all the time. And then in this episode two

575
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: they showed where we all got really intimate with each other.

576
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: Were you, guys nervous for that because this was both

577
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: of your first times? I'm assuming Oh, well, I guess

578
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars was reality TV, but you I

579
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: feel like you really didn't get too personal on Dancing

580
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: with the Stars like this, we got personal when you

581
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: were brought into interrogation rooms and then we just got

582
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,719
Speaker 1: so close as teammates. And how was that for you guys?

583
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: Were you because half the time I didn't I forgot

584
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: that the cameras were even there, and I was just

585
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: having fun with you guys and just so comfortable. But

586
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: I also kind of grew up in the reality TV space,

587
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: So how did that feel for you, guys?

588
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: To get shares his story.

589
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, the way you're saying intimate, she is like, so just.

590
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: Just we're sharing stories.

591
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: Okay, So Rudy comes in and like, okay, sorry, is

592
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: that the wrong word we're getting.

593
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 3: We all got so into it with each other. I mean, okay, geez,

594
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on your side of the barracks,

595
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 3: but my gosh, anyway, I'm sorry.

596
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: This was Okay, it was do you know what I'm

597
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: talking about?

598
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: Comes in. Rudy comes in and shares a really deep story,

599
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 3: which was the first time that we saw the other

600
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 3: side of the DS of like, oh man, they're really

601
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 3: like sharing some serious stuff.

602
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: And he tells us in a circle and share something

603
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: really vulnerable about our and.

604
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: It was so strained because we're only with these people

605
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 3: at this point for three days. Yeah, and we like

606
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 3: everybody shared their deepest, darkest shame secret, like hardest thing

607
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 3: they're going through. And like, looking back, it's such a

608
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: rare context of like, no one is that comfortable with

609
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 3: each other in that short amount of time, except if

610
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: you do these things in that context. And so I

611
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 3: think what I've been really shocked by on the show

612
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: is how how much of like the barracks footage they're

613
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 3: they're using, and like, when you're in there, you don't

614
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 3: notice those cameras really and you're like, ah, they're probably

615
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: not going to use any of this, but they use it.

616
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: And I did not like the reality TV show vibe.

617
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 3: It was like so stressful just to know that they

618
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: could be using any of this footage and mashing it

619
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: up with any other thing I've said, and like, I

620
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: just didn't know how that's going to turn out. Fortunately,

621
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 3: I feel like the show is very generous and mind

622
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 3: with how they're trying too.

623
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 1: I think it's very positive. Yeah, within everybody's story, like

624
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: and they have it looks really good.

625
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: And they try like they give you an opportunity to

626
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 3: make yourself look good, and like I feel like you

627
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: really have to try to mess it up.

628
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: There's no false narratives going on with editing of any

629
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: kind anyway.

630
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was that was that was really wild for me,

631
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 3: with the cameras and the constant mic and it's like

632
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 3: never done anything like it.

633
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: I actually loved the intimacy side of it, like the

634
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 2: conversations because up until that point, like Andrew said, we

635
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 2: didn't really know everybody, but like I knew some people,

636
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: and I knew some people for what their headlines were

637
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: and being able to like hear them open up in

638
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 2: the context of knowing them for seventy two hours and

639
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: seeing how they operate under fear and pressure and stuff

640
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: was really eye opening and made us all like bond

641
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: even closer. It's almost like now I understand you more

642
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: and I can protect you better. Yeah, I remember, I

643
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: feel like we had really bonded with Randall Kobb after that,

644
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: because I will never forget. In one of the challenges

645
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: that's coming up, Randall got pushed really far and he

646
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: almost got pushed past a point where I remember him

647
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: coming to us and him saying like I'm not good yes,

648
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: and I need you like I need to lean on

649
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: you now for a while, and it made it all

650
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: like made sense and it was like, okay, I've got you.

651
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: And the next one it reversed and so it was

652
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: a beautiful yeah, beautiful part.

653
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: Of the show. It's all intentional. Yeah, the DS probably

654
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: sets us up to get this close and tell our

655
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: stories because it makes us form these bonds. So it's

656
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: cool how this whole show is just very strategically done

657
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:49,719
Speaker 1: to make us, I don't know, become lifelong best friends.

658
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: They know what they're doing, that's for sure.

659
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: They really do. Between the two of you, who do

660
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: you think handled the challenges better?

661
00:33:58,680 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: Andrew?

662
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: I think I did these the challenges way worse when

663
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 3: it came to everything else.

664
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 2: The challenges were so hard for me. The weight, how

665
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: large the thing, the like items were that we had

666
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: to move and carry. Miles Afron like, that was hard.

667
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 2: And Andrew, we were watching episode two and he literally said,

668
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,959
Speaker 2: the stairs weren't that bad, and I was like, you suck.

669
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 3: That was.

670
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 2: That was so hard.

671
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 1: That was so hard. And it was so funny because

672
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: obviously my mom was struggling during the stairs, like really bad,

673
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: and so the DS are yelling at her because they're like,

674
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: you're holding your daughter back and all this stuff. Once

675
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: we actually got up the stairs and we made it

676
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: to obviously the aircraft challenge, I kept saying to my

677
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: mom like, I know you were really struggling, but it's

678
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: okay because when you stopped, it gave me an excuse

679
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: to stop, so it was totally fine, Like don't beat

680
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: yourself up about it, because I was actually really grateful.

681
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: So she thought that was so funny. But yeah, no,

682
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: that was so hard. That had to have been like

683
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: two hundred flights.

684
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 3: I did you know, you guys did great.

685
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: There's a walk in the park for Andrew.

686
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 3: And what about you? I mean, who do you feel like?

687
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 3: Who were you? One? Who did you walk away being

688
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 3: closest with? And then two? Who were you?

689
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: Like?

690
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 3: Dang that that person I would want to be their

691
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 3: teammate walking into the next challenge, not knowing what it

692
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 3: would be.

693
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: I walked away probably closest with. I think Brie and

694
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: I got really close throughout the Special Forces. But then

695
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: to have like a teammate like Sean, like, she pushed

696
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 1: me so much, and it was funny because I looked

697
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: at her, and you know, there were even times where

698
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: I felt like she was pushing me and I would

699
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: get you know, annoyed within myself and then take it

700
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: out on her a little bit and totally didn't mean to,

701
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: but it was just like in the moment, and I

702
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: knew she was looking out for me and pushing me

703
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: to my limits. But there were times where obviously you're

704
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: like so overwhelmed, but she was one of the most

705
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: like motivating people for me. And then the guy like,

706
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: you guys were just so amazing to like for helping us.

707
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: And my mom like always says that like they were

708
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: such gentlemen, every all of the guys, and I was like,

709
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: they really were, because even though we were smaller as

710
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: females and we were struggling, you guys would help us,

711
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 1: even just lift our burgains and you have no idea,

712
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: but you guys just lifting the back of our burgains

713
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: made the world of a difference. Like it was like

714
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: night and day. So just having that like security of

715
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: you guys and just helping us, it was it was amazing. Yeah,

716
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: I don't think I would be able to do without

717
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: any of you.

718
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 3: It was really cool to see how we all helped

719
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: each other in different ways. And no, Lie, I feel

720
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 3: since the show it's so spoiled to get a spend

721
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: every day with Sean, because like it changed my perspective

722
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 3: from like what you can get into as a couple

723
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 3: where it's like, ah, why are you? Why are you

724
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 3: nitpicking here? Why you why are you criticize him here?

725
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 3: And that show really reframed everything I saw Sean and

726
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 3: all the feedback I was getting from her from like

727
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 3: oh what was me to wait a minute, she like,

728
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 3: there is no teammate like Sean teammate And I'm thinking

729
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 3: so high to be able to do every day with her.

730
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 3: It's it's been so fun just to see the lasting

731
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 3: effects that the show has had, and I think I

732
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 3: feel like it really did positively impact our relationships. So

733
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 3: maybe you feel the same. I'm not sure.

734
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: Oh for sure I feel the same my ride or not.

735
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: And also I hoping you guys not. Yeah, yeah, I

736
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 2: said it from day one though, when we were stuck

737
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 2: on the mountain together Gyea it was you and Brie,

738
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: I was like, I will choose you guys every challenge

739
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 2: every time. We bonded so quickly in that first day, I.

740
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: Was just gonna ask you, guys, who do you think

741
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: you got closest with and who would you go into

742
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: combat with?

743
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: Because of the first day and like being thrown into

744
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: that whole environment, they separated all of us into two teams,

745
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: that team Alpha and Bravo, and I think on our team, you,

746
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: me and Brie just all being like similar mindset, similar sizing,

747
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: so like everything, we just bonded really closely and kind

748
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 2: of like they were very defining moments in the season

749
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: when we were there of having to lean on you guys,

750
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 2: and like vice versa, that just stuck with me.

751
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 3: So you too, honestly, Randall for one of the challenges

752
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 3: later that has not been showed yet. I feel like

753
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 3: him and I became brother. He's in a really fun way.

754
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 3: Eric and I, I think, understand each other so much

755
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 3: differently in it.

756
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: And you guys are like the trio Yeah.

757
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Christy for you, I mean Randall and you

758
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 3: saw the worst side of me. I feel like we're

759
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 3: this freaking embarrassment and failure and you're like, all right,

760
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: well we gotta go with this. But I guess I

761
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 3: want to stay tuned to watch that part of it.

762
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

763
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: No, definitely. Everyone said that this was such a life

764
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: altering experience. What was something that you guys discovered about yourselves.

765
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: Reaffirmed even more? Just like Andrew's my rider and I

766
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: and I feel like Billy and the DS were like

767
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 2: trying to question that the whole time of Like, would

768
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 2: you truly choose him or vice versa in any scenario

769
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: under you know, harsh conditions, and I would say yes always.

770
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 2: And I think outside of our marriage, having done the

771
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 2: kid thing for six years, I wondered if I was

772
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: capable of doing something physically or mentally challenging. Again, I

773
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: haven't really tapped into that since I was sixteen seventeen

774
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: years old, and so I got caught up in the

775
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: spiral of motherhood for a while where it was serving

776
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: everyone else but myself, and it just made me feel

777
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 2: strong again, and it kind of propped me up as

778
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 2: a mother to feel like I am strong enough for

779
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: my children and for our family, and I needed that.

780
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, the word that comes to mind is just inspired.

781
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: Like I said, I'm inspired in a new way with

782
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 3: our relationship. After that, it's like a fresh takee Oh

783
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 3: my gosh, I'm just glad to be here and not

784
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: in Morocco. Is kind of how I feel every day now.

785
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 3: It's like, dang, we got it so good. You have

786
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 3: no idea. I'm also inspired, kind of like what I

787
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 3: was saying earlier, just a new perspective of a lot

788
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: of times you don't get the opportunity to see the

789
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 3: good sides of people, and so like just being reminded

790
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 3: that everyone has redemptive qualities and I just need to

791
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 3: search for them. Yeah, it was just like so fun

792
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 3: to I think I'm also inspired by knowing that hard things, obviously,

793
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 3: as the word would imply, are difficult, but the amount

794
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 3: of good things that can come from that, like proving

795
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 3: something to yourself or bonding with other people is still good.

796
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: So it's like I'm more inspired to chase after some

797
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 3: more and I think thoughtfully difficult things as opposed to

798
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 3: saying I don't need to do this right now, or

799
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 3: you know, I'm thirty four now, so you can kind

800
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,959
Speaker 3: of just start you kind of start picking and choose,

801
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 3: and it feels like what difficult I want to deal with,

802
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 3: or this is just inconvenient. It's like, no, let's just

803
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,959
Speaker 3: do more of this because there's good things that can come.

804
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: Would you guys say that this was the hardest thing

805
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: you've ever done in your life? Or does the NFL

806
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: and the Olympics pass this up?

807
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 3: No way harder than.

808
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: No way harder than the Olympics. Comparing it, It's just

809
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: like the Olympics were hard because it was compiled over

810
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 2: a fifteen year time span. It's a very long, large commitment.

811
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: This was the hardest condensed period of time I've ever gone.

812
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 3: Through, the hardest ten days you've ever gone through. Yeah,

813
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 3: that's probably accurate.

814
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that's accurate for all of us.

815
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 2: I mean, like childbirth and stuff of course is like

816
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: very difficult and hard. But no, like the period of

817
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 2: time has is unmatched.

818
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that.

819
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: Did anyone supp as you by their toughness?

820
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 2: Every you are you kidding, Leah freaking you did? Oh

821
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 2: my gosh, your run gea, however long it was, was

822
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: the most inspiring thing I've ever seen in my life.

823
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: Because one, you were the youngest of the group, right, yeah. Yeah,

824
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: And to see like your journey almost like the you

825
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 2: could you could see firsthand your rollercoaster of like your

826
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 2: security you had in your mom and then when she left,

827
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 2: and like your insecurity and then your fears and how

828
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 2: you overcame them, and just like it was the coolest

829
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: thing to witness.

830
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: No, but legitimately yes, incredibly impressive. Everybody in their own

831
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 3: way was so tough. Like if you think about bre.

832
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: Pre surprised me just because I knew that before Special Forces,

833
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: my girl was not working out and I knew that, Yeah,

834
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 1: and she shocked me the most.

835
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was amazing. And then Johnny was tough in

836
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 3: the sense that, like she, he was sober leading up

837
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 3: to it, which is tough. That's its own form of toughness.

838
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 3: Eric was tough because he got super injured and he

839
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 3: like pressed through. Randall was was tough because of that

840
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 3: instance of fear that was like hard to work through.

841
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 2: Everybody like everyone such a tough cast.

842
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 3: It was awesome.

843
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, you guys were just these So from the start,

844
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: did you have any predictions on who you thought would win?

845
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 3: Sean? No, yes, Sean.

846
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: Like from the start, I have to say, like my

847
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: top four were you two. This was hard because then

848
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: Jesse was so tough too, So like I have to say,

849
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: like you two as couples, like you two, and then

850
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: also Jesse and Eric and then Randall. Yeah, I thought

851
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: Randall was taking it home too.

852
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 2: Same I would say Andrew, Eric Randall were like my three.

853
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: I would I like put money on at the beginning.

854
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 3: Never, I'm never betting against Sean.

855
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: I mean, how could you?

856
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 3: And also you're like, well, you're like, how many people

857
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 3: can make it the distance? Is there a set cap

858
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: on that or they technically say everybody?

859
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't think so, because I don't know. I

860
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: haven't I didn't watch season one and two all the

861
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 1: way through, but I watched season three all the way through,

862
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: and I know there were two winners for season three.

863
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about one and two, but I mean

864
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 1: at least a handful of people make it to interrogation,

865
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: so there could potentially be four or five winners.

866
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 3: Right, potentially a lot to stay tuned to find.

867
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: Out, potentially just talking from previous seasons. Of course, are

868
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: you guys excited to watch the rest of the season

869
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 1: of Special Forces and are your kids going to be watching?

870
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 2: Ecstatic to watch the season? I am loving it. Ia

871
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: and I have talked about like when since we lived

872
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: it individually, it's like we didn't get to hear everything

873
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: that you were saying, you know, over on your side

874
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 2: of the barracks, and like how you a lot of

875
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 2: times we didn't get to see each other even do

876
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: the challenges because we'd be like isolated and so getting

877
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: to complete everybody's story that we like knew personally there

878
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: but see how they like went through it has been

879
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 2: really cool to watch, and like, now that we're like

880
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: decompressed and not feeling like we're dying every second, it's

881
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: fun to watch.

882
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 3: And also let's let's just stay at the obvious. The

883
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 3: whole thing is so dope, Like it really is something

884
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 3: that I would pay to do. Yeah, and then you

885
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 3: add on like all this. The production is top notch,

886
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 3: the fancy cameras and how they'd add this slow mo

887
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 3: like everything looks so cool. So yeah, it's a blast

888
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 3: to watch, and it's even cooler and more exciting to

889
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 3: like know all of the background behind the scenes that

890
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 3: when into that one little episode that they made and.

891
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 2: Our kids are they watching it? No, it's way too

892
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: intense for the how little they are, and like explaining,

893
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: like right now we're at ages of them where we're

894
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: like containing controlling fear for them. So like their little

895
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: brains are just like going crazy, so actively showing them

896
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: when mommy and daddy are afraid for their lives is

897
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: probably not a good idea.

898
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: Too much blood, yea, how do you explain vulgar language?

899
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 3: Are so many beeps when these guys talk. Well, we

900
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 3: told him.

901
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 2: That mommy and daddy hats to jump out of a helicopter,

902
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: and so that's like the one thing they have seen

903
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: so far, and they think it's so cool. They're adrenaline

904
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: junkies just like us, so they want to do it.

905
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 2: And our four year old thinks he's like a little

906
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 2: army man now because he wears he wears.

907
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: My wait, I was seeing I forget which one of

908
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: your babies, like literally climb your rock wall and go

909
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: on the gymnastic mats. I was like, this is a

910
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: mini Sean.

911
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank what's new with you? Though? Gee, how the

912
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 3: heck you've been This is such a tree. I'm gonna

913
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 3: milk this time for all that we can get at it.

914
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been good. I'm moving out next month.

915
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 2: You found an apartment.

916
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: I found an Apartment's good. I'm super excited. So I'm

917
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: moving out and literally a little less than a month,

918
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm moving to Jersey City, so right outside New York.

919
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: It's honestly perfect. I love the neighborhood. It kind of

920
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: reminds me of a smaller New York City. But I

921
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 1: have all the easy access to get into the city.

922
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: Ten minute walk to the path, ten minute walk to

923
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 1: the ferry, so it's perfect. And I just can't wait

924
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: to walk everywhere and just not use my car. I

925
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: feel like I've been using my car so much, just

926
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: commuting it back and forth into the city, So I

927
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: can't wait to just live this commuter lifestyle.

928
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 3: Are you a Christian about to like lock it down

929
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 3: or what's the deal?

930
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 4: I know, not yet, I'm actually moving into this place

931
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 4: by myself, which I'm really excited about, right and he.

932
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: Wants to move in with me soon, but I kind

933
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: of wanted to do this part alone at first. And

934
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: I've never really lived alone. So when I was in college,

935
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: I had roommates. Then I came back home and I

936
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: just felt like I was always looking out for somebody

937
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: in my house, whether it was like driving my sisters

938
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: or you know, when you're at school roommates, you're not

939
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: really on your own. So I'm kind of looking forward

940
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: to just being me in my space for a little bit,

941
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: even if it's six months, Like he can come in

942
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 1: six months later, but like, I just want to start

943
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: this by myself first.

944
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 3: You got a dog or a cat or anything.

945
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: I do have a dog. She's right here. This is Bella,

946
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: a little multi fu But I've had her since I

947
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: was really little, like maybe ten or eleven. So she's

948
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: twelve wo and she's still kicking. So I'm like her mommy,

949
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: and I really take care of her, like I give

950
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 1: her like doggy vitamins and like the whole thing. So

951
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: I really want to take her with me to Jersey City.

952
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: I'm just nervous that she's going to freak out when

953
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: she's alone in the apartment because there's always just so

954
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: much chaos happening in this house, so that'll be like

955
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: trial and error.

956
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 3: But congrats, she's doing great.

957
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 1: She's doing good. He's just working and you know, hustling,

958
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: trying to do the best she can. But she's she's

959
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: doing good. What about you, guys? How's the pod? How's work?

960
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: You guys have looked like you're traveling everywhere?

961
00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 3: Right, So crushing it, Sean is just pretty crushing it that.

962
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: Guys, your your videos have been killing me, killing me.

963
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: They've been so good, No, such a good way. They've

964
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: been so good recently. I'm like, oh, they're they're they're

965
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: loving it.

966
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 3: Shout out to the squad. We have a blast. I

967
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 3: love what we're gonna do. And uh, I can't believe

968
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 3: that we get to do it every day and called it.

969
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: But anything exciting coming up for you guys?

970
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 3: We finish our book?

971
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wait, are you guys going to do a

972
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: book tour?

973
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? In the spring.

974
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: Okay, so you totally need to let me know when

975
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: you were in New York.

976
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: We will don't tease though, because we were there yesterday

977
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 3: we didin't get to see you. Maybe it's our fault.

978
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: That's our fault. We were literally in the city for now.

979
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: That was both of our faults. We we didn't know.

980
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a big day tomorrow.

981
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 2: Andrew is finishing his PhD.

982
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Andrew, I gotta give a big presentation, which would

983
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:56,439
Speaker 3: be fun.

984
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing because you were you were telling me

985
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: that you were still you were still in school right

986
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: when we were.

987
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he gives a huge presentation to like literally finish

988
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 2: his doctor at tomorrow.

989
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: That's incredible.

990
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 3: And all I want to do next the questioning wink wink.

991
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 3: All I have to do is just go through some questioning,

992
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 3: not unlike potentially you know something else, something else, and

993
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 3: maybe I'll do better. It's time. But now I wanted

994
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 3: to do it for all the content that we put out,

995
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 3: just to have like a little more academic rigor behind it.

996
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 3: Are you going through law school or what's the dealgy.

997
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: I graduated with a degree in criminal justice and a

998
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: minor in sociology. And then when I graduated, I just

999
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: like my career just like skyrocketed, and I to go

1000
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: to law school and even so many tutors professors because

1001
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: I was studying for my LSATs. They were like, if

1002
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: you were not one hundred percent invested in this, there

1003
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: is no point to go to law school right now

1004
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: because it's your full time job and doing Special Forces

1005
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: just you know, Next Gen MYC the other show that

1006
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: I'm on on Bravo, there's just con And you know

1007
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: how it is with content creating and filming content. You

1008
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: really and then our podcasts, like you really are constantly

1009
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: busy twenty four to seven, and your schedule is so unpredictable,

1010
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 1: like brand trips come up randomly, or I've been traveling

1011
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: for the past month, like home for a day at

1012
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,720
Speaker 1: a time, and I'm like, how did this even happen?

1013
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: I blinked my eye and it's like we're traveling constantly.

1014
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: So I wish because it really is my passion and

1015
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: I genuinely love it, but I just wish that I

1016
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 1: would be able to lock down to it right now.

1017
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: But I just don't want to set myself up for

1018
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 1: failure either, So I'm just like, I don't think it's

1019
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: the right time right now. And your house, how's everything

1020
00:53:59,440 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: going with that?

1021
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 2: H great? Hopefully moving in in a month, So.

1022
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: Okay, exciting. So before the holidays, maybe two yeah, just

1023
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,479
Speaker 1: two weeks of December, Okay, love that in the middle

1024
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: of the holidays, which is great. That's gonna be hectic.

1025
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 1: Hopefully you're not hosting Thanksgiving.

1026
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 3: No, no, honestly, I could still live in the barracks

1027
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 3: for the rest of my life. That Sean has put

1028
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 3: a lot of work into this house. I'm excited to

1029
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 3: be there.

1030
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 2: Next time you're in Nashville, you have to come stay

1031
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: with us.

1032
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: I know I Jesse actually texted us about her movie premiere. Yeah,

1033
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: and so I'm gonna really try to make it work.

1034
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 2: If you come out to the premiere for Jesse's movie,

1035
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 2: you're gonna stay at our house. Okay, Okay, we're gonna

1036
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 2: fight over you.

1037
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: Okay. Love you guys so much, and make sure to

1038
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,919
Speaker 1: tune in. Special Forces World's Toughest Test is out now

1039
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: every Thursday at nine eighth Central on Fox and Hulu. Oh,

1040
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for coming on Casual Chaos.

1041
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1042
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: Where can they find you? Guys? Your podcast, your socials.

1043
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 3: You don't want to check out our stuff. It's embarrassing

1044
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 3: and you're better off not seeing it, So don't don't

1045
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 3: google us do on Instagram much.

1046
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 2: Thanks there you go.

1047
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 3: Don't recommend it.

1048
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: You guys are the best. Love you so so much.

1049
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: Say hello to the kiddies for me.