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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did. My name is Millie de Cherco. I'm Danielle Henderson,

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Speaker 1: and uh would you want to film podcast for you?

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Speaker 1: Once again? Hello?

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Speaker 2: Hello to me? Hello? Hello? Hello? Like are you still there? Hello?

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Speaker 2: Like we're looking at each other?

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Speaker 1: Hello? Hello?

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Speaker 2: Where are you?

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Speaker 1: Hello?

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Speaker 2: Hello? What if I just busted out to a dell

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Speaker 2: for the rest of the fucking year, every I think

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Speaker 2: you should.

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Speaker 1: What the hell?

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Speaker 2: Hi?

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Speaker 1: That sings all the time of this podcast so badly?

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Speaker 2: You need both We both do it. We have no

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Speaker 2: shame anymore. We really don't. We really do. Adela has

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Speaker 2: a great voice, though, oh yeah, fantastic, Like I can't

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Speaker 2: come close to even impersonating her in anything other than

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Speaker 2: a comedy way.

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Speaker 1: I know. I want to even to I want to

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Speaker 1: try it, but I don't.

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Speaker 2: Hello, brov. A lot of her songs have a low

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Speaker 2: in it just costly say that to people. Damn you

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Speaker 2: what so ray?

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Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't even know the lines.

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Speaker 2: As a reco on me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm stopping now, Hello Broby.

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Speaker 2: On the side, do not know the next line? Do

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Speaker 2: not know it? Something about how you try it?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, at least you can say that I tried.

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Speaker 1: Oh I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Oh damn, I don't know. I think I feel like

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Speaker 2: you guys would be good friends because she's she's a lifter.

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Speaker 1: She is you know who else is a lifter? Lana

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Speaker 1: del Rey apparently. Really Yeah, a lot of these, like

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Speaker 1: a lot of these female singers that I enjoy are lifters.

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Speaker 1: I think that's very interesting.

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Speaker 2: Thesis time.

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Speaker 1: I know, I think that there's something to it. I

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Speaker 1: gotta figure out what the through line is. I think

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Speaker 1: it's just, you know, I don't know, people like wanting

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Speaker 1: to get buff be I think that's what's really going on.

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Speaker 1: Like I was reading this article about somebody was talking

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Speaker 1: about how you can tell that Lana del Rey does

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Speaker 1: squats because her thy muscles are checked to find yes.

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Speaker 2: Jacked and to find I feel like it's probably I hope,

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Speaker 2: I hope that it's just this is how like female

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Speaker 2: singers and pop stars are like, this is their rebuttal

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Speaker 2: to being treated like chattel for most of their young lives.

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Speaker 2: I hope they're like, oh, well, watch my next move

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Speaker 2: where I can genuinely kick ass. Yeah, and maybe you

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Speaker 2: won't fuck with me. So hard.

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Speaker 1: Y'all listen, I'm a one hundred percent advocate for women

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Speaker 1: to get jacked thighs, Like I want that for all

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Speaker 1: of us.

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Speaker 2: I definitely want it for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like if like imagine, like think about this, like

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Speaker 1: you're out there and you're like, I really want to,

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Speaker 1: you know, start lifting, and I want to maybe deadlift

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Kahn at one point. How do I do this?

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Speaker 1: I go out there, I train, and you know, besides

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Speaker 1: the fact that you're just getting general strength, besides the

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Speaker 1: fact that you're going to look amazing in a pair

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Speaker 1: of like booty shorts or whatever, you could also do

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Speaker 1: like roundhouse kicks with so much power, like the physicalness

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Speaker 1: of your legs becomes comply out of control to where

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Speaker 1: if you do have to do some kind of like

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Speaker 1: combat moves or some kind of martial arts, you can

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Speaker 1: do it and destroy someone, like physically destroy an enemy.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that is a good fitness goal, to

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Speaker 2: be able to Kool aid Man style roundhouse kick your

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Speaker 2: way through a wall or a chest cavity, like whichever

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Speaker 2: you prefer. I feel like I'd be a maniac if

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Speaker 2: I was a lifter or someone who paid like close

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Speaker 2: when I used to live in Harlem, listen, this man

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Speaker 2: and if you live or have lived in New York,

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Speaker 2: my gym kind of guy. Oh yeah, So he would

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Speaker 2: like jump up on a light post and be doing

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Speaker 2: shit in the sidewalk, and I'm like, oh, you're as

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Speaker 2: are just touching the sidewalk. That's where I'm out. But

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Speaker 2: I feel like that would be me if I could,

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Speaker 2: if I had Laana del Ray's thighs, I would just

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Speaker 2: be constantly showing off, like look at me, watch me

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Speaker 2: up at like a goddamn possum. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta tell you. Ever since I started lifting,

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Speaker 1: it's been over two years now, I will say that

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Speaker 1: the en SAMs have gotten slightly shorter for me. Like

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Speaker 1: I used to be like a nine inch inseame gal

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Speaker 1: on a short. Now I'm probably like a seven inch.

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Speaker 1: I'm showing two more inches of leg.

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Speaker 2: Let me give you a little peak at the power,

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Speaker 2: a little peak at the power. But I'm going to

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Speaker 2: carry you off.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going listen. I people who know me, I'm

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Speaker 1: not into shorts often sometimes I we're a pair of cutoffs.

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Speaker 1: But like I said, the en seam is probably not

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Speaker 1: these like three inch in seems. I know that.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not doing a three inch. But I used

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Speaker 2: to not wear shorts at all, and then it just

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Speaker 2: started getting way too hot and I was like, you

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Speaker 2: know what, fuck it, take a gander at these gams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do love I like bike shorts. I wore

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Speaker 1: bike shorts actually the other day. It was kind of amazing,

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Speaker 1: Like I was like, yo, I feel like I'm in

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Speaker 2: Bike shorts and nothing else.

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Speaker 1: No I wore It was basically I went to a concert.

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Speaker 1: It was an outdoor concert. It was so hot. I

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Speaker 1: and I was like, there's no fucking way I'm wearing pants.

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Speaker 1: So let's figure out how this is gonna work. And

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Speaker 1: what I opted to wear is I was gonna wear

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Speaker 1: like basically a linen tunic, linen being like an outdoorsy

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Speaker 1: put a pair of fucking black bicycles under it and solid.

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Speaker 2: Look.

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Speaker 1: It was a look and I pulled it. I feel

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Speaker 1: like I pulled it. It was very comfortable, like it

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Speaker 2: Definitely that was the move because we went from the

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Speaker 2: winter look, which was tights underneath cut offs, yes, to

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Speaker 2: the summer look of bike shorts underneath cut offs. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And there's a moment where I did think, should I

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Speaker 2: To do that. It feels like extra fabric. But also

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Speaker 2: that's a very nineties look, the bike shorts under the dress.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great and it was very freeing and

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I like I like this.

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Speaker 2: I'm all about it. I love this move for I

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Speaker 2: love this move for Lana del Rey, I love it

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Speaker 2: for a Dell. I love it for you. I think

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Speaker 2: you should all form a power trio of some kind

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Speaker 2: and roping some some folks who are already at your gym.

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Speaker 1: I would love to be in a lifting club with

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Speaker 1: the two of them, like, truly, truly, truly.

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Speaker 2: I saw you Gmail dot com, reps reach out, let's

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Speaker 2: go reach out. Oh my god, it'd be like the

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Speaker 2: Powerpuff Girls on steroids. Would be great, except no steroids.

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Speaker 2: We do it clean, at least at least that's how

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Speaker 2: I do. I don't know how you feel, Lana and Adele.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you're into juicing.

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Speaker 1: I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I would be shocked if they were juicy that room

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Speaker 2: were out, But I would be fucking shocked if they're

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Speaker 2: juicing up like fucking Schwarzenegger and Stallone. Well hgh and

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Speaker 2: all that shit.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm like, that's the thing is that I I learned,

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Speaker 1: for the most part through this like lifting journey, that like,

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Speaker 1: if you want to looked John, like, if you want

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Speaker 1: to look like perhaps an actor that's in one of

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Speaker 1: our films today, like it's pretty much steroids. Like in

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Speaker 1: order to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger, Like you can't just

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Speaker 1: if you want that kind of look. Specifically, it's it's

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you've got a little person who just comes

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Speaker 2: while if you want that body stick by the sicky

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Speaker 2: describe it, like, oh, no, it's not steroids's blah blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah. You're yeah, that's just steroids. You're just trying

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Speaker 2: it's not. You can't just get that body from eating

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Speaker 2: fucking chicken breast and broccoli.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did look as much as it is like a

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Speaker 1: little half and half look my like muscly flabby look

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Speaker 1: or whatever. I'm like, I get you a girl who

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Speaker 1: can do both. I guess I don't want that extra

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Speaker 1: death Like I'm like, I have to basically take rhoids

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Speaker 1: in order to like make my body look rippled. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, you know, I'd rather just have the flab.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it's so absolutely I just love describing

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Speaker 2: it as a half and half. That's the body type

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Speaker 2: that should be permanently on the menu. I cannot agree

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Speaker 2: with you more. I just want to look and feel

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Speaker 2: less tired. That is my only fitness goal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Can I look like I got the sleep that I got?

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Speaker 2: Can I pick something up that I've dropped on the

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Speaker 2: floor without ruining my week because I've popped something out

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Speaker 2: of socket?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been very extra concerned with the ways in

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Speaker 1: which my face.

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Speaker 2: Looks tired these days. Really, I don't think you're tired.

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Speaker 1: Well, thanks, I mean, I you know, I the the

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Speaker 1: problem really is is aging. Like when I mean you

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Speaker 1: don't get sleep as a twenty two year old, you

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Speaker 1: look incredible and sexy, and you know, you still look

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Speaker 1: fresh faced even though you've had one hour of sleep

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Speaker 1: and then you go to work or whatever. I think now,

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Speaker 1: tiredness looks like it just really ages me.

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Speaker 2: It shows up now. Tiredness is just it announces itself. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I'm trying to get better sleep, but I'm also

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Speaker 1: doing the serums and the Underreye stuff and you know,

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Speaker 1: like trying to like push my face up when I

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Speaker 1: wash it, like my mom always told me to do so.

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Speaker 2: Don't wipe down. And I was like, what my graviyes

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Speaker 2: to tell me that about my neck? She's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: if you wipe down, you'll get wrinkles. And I'm like,

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Speaker 2: or I'm just gonna get wrinkles anyway. Who gives a shit, No,

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Speaker 2: you go to wipe. We're now doing face movements in.

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Speaker 1: The we're doing face exercises.

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Speaker 2: says Day one listener, first time caller. There are so

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Speaker 2: You're very welcome for the last ten minutes of conversation

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Speaker 2: threesome thriple double Homicide edition, no mixing and matching. You

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Speaker 2: thank you both so much for sharing your amazing work

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Speaker 2: That really warms my heart? Thank you so? And your

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Speaker 2: life sounds fascinating. You're going all over the place. We're

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Speaker 2: happy to keep you company while you're in Idaho. What

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Speaker 1: I love this email? Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Oh my man, sounds like you're like a master gardener,

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Speaker 2: which is fascinating to me. So tell us what's up.

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Speaker 2: But I'm glad to keep you company. And this FMKA

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Speaker 2: if I have to do this one, that I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: In honor of you missing out on a MINAJATOI at

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Speaker 1: I this is gonna be so hard. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: be fascinating to hear your answers. So your options are

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think, hmmm, yeah, okay, this is I'm ready,

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Speaker 1: I'm read go for it.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking a deep breath in, exhaling through the mouth. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So my FMK for this one. I am going to

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Speaker 1: And here's why. First of all, I cannot be married

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Speaker 1: to either one of them. It would be too TUMULTI tumultuous.

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Speaker 2: You know this, Okay, I've read that book was Furious Love, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah they're a fucking miss and you know this coming

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. That's the other thing. It's like, I

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Speaker 1: and I'm just like, and I'm not saying just richer.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about you, Liz, like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, she's she's obviously my icon, my hero.

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Speaker 2: No? No, you know, lots of shouting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like all about her, and I love that

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Speaker 2: People, Oh, I fully understand.

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Speaker 1: I love the lifestyle. I love the lifestyle like period.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful, and I like, I'm just imagining. I'm Aldovar. I'm

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Speaker 2: I know this. This is a hard FM. This is

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Speaker 2: It's not cut and dry.

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Speaker 1: Also, my mom does not like Jennifer Lopez for a

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Speaker 2: Aw, Mom, what a little tender baby.

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Speaker 1: I know, she's just like she's I think she's protective.

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Speaker 1: I was like, Mom, it's probably not what you think.

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Speaker 1: There's probably so many more complicated details in all of

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Speaker 1: Affleck in this.

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Speaker 2: And you know, look, given the information that she has

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Speaker 2: is she gonna decide they're not showing those tender moments.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta say.

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Speaker 2: I kind of love this, Yeah a lot. I think

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Speaker 2: your answers are firmly in line with who you are.

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Speaker 2: Impeccable answers.

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Speaker 1: Thank you now it's your turn.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So my answer is for the threesome Thruttle double

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Speaker 2: homicide edition of FMK, I am going to fuck Benefit

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Speaker 2: for the same reasons that you would fuck Elizabeth Taylor

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Speaker 2: and Richard Burton.

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Speaker 1: Sure, sure, sure, sure sure that doesn't surprise me at all.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, we get on a yacht, i'd

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Speaker 2: get some enter light entertainment. I feel like there would

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Speaker 1: Oh really, like.

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Speaker 2: In what way? Oh, Jail's not let anyone get close

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Speaker 2: to that, dude, do you kidd me?

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Speaker 1: I see, I see.

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Speaker 2: Immediate, Like I'm never gonna fight over a dick, but

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Speaker 2: like there would be some competition. If I've been invited

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Speaker 2: forward to that for a weekend. We get tussling.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I never know. This is like such a peek

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Speaker 1: into your brain, right, Wow, Like.

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Speaker 2: Bitch Jenny from the block, which is not a good

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Speaker 2: attitude to have towards threesomes at all at all. Me

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Speaker 2: the best one, But I just know what I would

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Speaker 2: just saying, yeah, wow, I'm fucking for a weekend I

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Speaker 2: and the spiraling, and I'd have to get the fuck

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Speaker 2: out of there and be like, all right, back to

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch your drink. She's gonna put something in there.

436
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: You'll be floating in the Adriatic c gonna push.

437
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 2: Me overboard when it's done. It'd be a real get

438
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 2: fucked to get murdered scenario. But it's fine. It's a

439
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 2: way to go. It's a way to go. I am

440
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 2: marrying Penelope Cruise and Javier bdam Hell yeah you girl.

441
00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 2: The reasons here here. I guarantee one several or all

442
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Speaker 2: of their homes are filled with books. They're very smart,

443
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Speaker 2: they're very charming and funny.

444
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

445
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: I bet both of them can cook like motherfuckers.

446
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

447
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 2: Like, I just want a bed made of payea and

448
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 2: a book. I think it would be so generous and

449
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 2: kind and nice to be to be married to them.

450
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Speaker 2: And he defends her all the time whenever journalists ask

451
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: fucked up questions about like, oh, what's it like to

452
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Speaker 2: work with your wife. I bet that's a drag and

453
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Speaker 2: he's like, fuck you, She's the best. Like, I just

454
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Speaker 2: love them.

455
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Speaker 1: I love them too.

456
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Speaker 2: To absolute Mary, I want one hundred percent killing Elizabeth

457
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Speaker 2: Taylor and Richard Burton at any point in time, because I,

458
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: as a child who has experience being around addicts, that

459
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: is not something I fuck with at all, not even

460
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Speaker 2: a little bit. Yeah, and it would end in some

461
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Speaker 2: kind of double homicide, either me killing them or her

462
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Speaker 2: killing us, because I feel like in that relationship she

463
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: was the more murder prone.

464
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, are you kidding? It would be like

465
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Speaker 1: the end of Reservoir Dogs. We're all a point and

466
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Speaker 1: guns at each other. That's honestly. The core of this

467
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: FMK is really what to do with Liz and Dick

468
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: because you realized that it could either be like because

469
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: of their behaviors, because of their just their being. You're like, kid,

470
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Speaker 1: you take it for a little while, or not at all.

471
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 1: You know you.

472
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Speaker 2: Already know what's coming. You already know that the tone

473
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Speaker 2: has been set. So it's really just a matter of

474
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 2: how can or will you deal with the tone? Right? Yeah,

475
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 2: what to do with Liz and Dick would be a

476
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: children's book that I would read for the rest of

477
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Speaker 2: my life. I should write it What to Do with

478
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: Lizen Dick, And it's just Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton

479
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: as babies. Like lighting shit on a fire.

480
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like hammered on a boat, Like ripping up

481
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: the checks they got from appearing in a Joseph Losey movie, drunkenly,

482
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: like stumbling lighting fucking millions of dollars on fire, Like.

483
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Speaker 2: Shutting down entire productions for weeks on end where everyone's

484
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: just hanging out in the South Pacific lake. I thought

485
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 2: were making a movie, the fuck I know. Oh, I

486
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 2: love it. I love that. I think RL knocked it

487
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: out of the park. They did a fucking great job.

488
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: It was such a sweet email. I'm completely enamored of

489
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: your life and I'm glad that we can keep you company.

490
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 2: And this was a very fun FMK, so thank you

491
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Speaker 2: for sending it in. All right, let's get into these films.

492
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Speaker 2: Can we call them films? This week?

493
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: Oh boy, what a week?

494
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 2: These are straight up movies.

495
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: They're just they're movies. Okay again, summertime, folks, guess what

496
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: In the summer we kick it up a notch. We

497
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: do some stuff that's kind of you know, I don't know,

498
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: like less cinema and more popcorn right, popcorn films? We do.

499
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: We our episodes in the summer, typically like blockbusters, big movies,

500
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: audience favorites, because you know, we want to have a

501
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: little fun.

502
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: And it was a little bit of a break.

503
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I have to say, I don't know if

504
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,719
Speaker 1: we gave ourselves a break this this week.

505
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: We fail. We failed miserably.

506
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think we came at this obviously with some

507
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 1: with some chuckles. We were like, oh, like, let's do this.

508
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: This is obviously a theme we've done many times before.

509
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: And then when I drilled down into our double feature,

510
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: I was like, oh god.

511
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: What have we done to ourselves? And this was your choice?

512
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: I know, and this to us, I hate myself for it.

513
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: It was. It was a very very interesting double speech

514
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: this week.

515
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: Agreed, uh, and I can't wait to get into it

516
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: because I feel like it's gonna be a meandering road

517
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: that we're driving down.

518
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 4: You go for it, well, if you haven't guests already,

519
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 4: Our theme for this week is podcast favorite.

520
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

521
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: Just because you can't doesn't mean you should sing in

522
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: a Dell style.

523
00:29:53,760 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: Just because you can doesn't mean you should. I tell

524
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Speaker 1: you no, that's it. So this is again, if you're

525
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: if you're a long time low to start with the podcast,

526
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Speaker 1: you know what this is about. This is essentially where

527
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: we take two movies, the Original and the remake, and

528
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: we put them up against each other. And Danielle came

529
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: up with the name a long time ago to indicate

530
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: that Hollywood should stop remaking old movies because a lot

531
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: of times it's like, why the fuck would you do that?

532
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: Oh good, I will say that. I feel like this

533
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: is just my personal opinion. I feel like both of

534
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: these movies, like maybe the original shouldn't have been made either.

535
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

536
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, let me. I'll just tell you right now.

537
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: The original is is a eighties classic. Like there were

538
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people our age I think specifically,

539
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: that have very fond eighties childhood memories of this movie

540
00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: right played on HBO and Cinemax and all those things.

541
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Speaker 1: Stars a lot of like young Hollywood stars at the time.

542
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: But it is it is an insane film, absolutely insane.

543
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: And then by the time that they came around to

544
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: remake it, which is, uh, you know, obviously we're gonna

545
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: be talking about today too. I was like, huh, things

546
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: have changed a little bit in the world, certainly.

547
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Speaker 2: Yeah. That is what's fascinating to me about this particular

548
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 2: just because you can doesn't mean you should remake situation,

549
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,719
Speaker 2: is that it really does put a finger on the

550
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: pulse of how much more aggressive and shitty we've gotten

551
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: over the years, Like there's no no innocence or kind

552
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: like this. My the remake was very starkly drilled down

553
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: on how childhood is different, how war is different, how

554
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: violence is different.

555
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: Totally agree, way more tactical, way more informed by video games,

556
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: which they actually reference in your in your film. I

557
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: I have a lot of complicated thoughts. This is gonna

558
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: be like a weird episode maybe.

559
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: But I love a weird one.

560
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: Let's go have a weird one.

561
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: We started out talking about chin straps and adele and ah,

562
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: how we would kill Elizabeth Burton and Elizabeth Taylor and

563
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 2: Richard Burton. Let's just keep it weird, Let's keep sliding

564
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: into weird.

565
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: I writ it a slide into weird? Am I going first?

566
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

567
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Speaker 2: You are?

568
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I am, because I have the original this week.

569
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: So my film for the theme just because you can't

570
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you should is from nineteen eighty four. It

571
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: was written by Kevin Reynolds and John Millius. It was

572
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: directed by John Millius, and it's called Red Dawn. Not

573
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: bad for a bunch of kids, huh, Proud. I don't

574
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Speaker 1: have a one sentence synopsis for this film. I didn't

575
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Speaker 1: write one. I guess I could. I guess I could

576
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: sum it up by saying teen Rambo. There you go,

577
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: or we're like teen Rambo three. Actually that actually does

578
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: a great job. Yeah. Like I said, this is such

579
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: a strange film for me, and I've seen it before.

580
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: That's the thing is that I've seen it before and

581
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: now I don't know if it's just because we're in

582
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: a different headspace with things, and I'm just like, man,

583
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: this movie is so bizarre. Yeah, And I mean there

584
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: are definite points of nostalgia here for me. I mean,

585
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: we'll get into it in just a second, but I

586
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit a little little bit

587
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: about the director slash co writer of this film, John Millius.

588
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: Now he's a very interesting person. Okay, he was a screenwriter.

589
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 1: He's alive, still by the way, he was a screenwriter,

590
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: and I got to say he wrote and directed, but

591
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: wrote a ton of very manly films if you will,

592
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: Like he wrote Apocalypse Now. He wrote Magnum Force with

593
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: Clint Eastwood. He wrote Jeremiah Johnson. He wrote Conan the Barbarian,

594
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: Clear and Present Danger. He did a lot of script

595
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: rewrites too, including Dirty Harry obviously.

596
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 2: Man, So.

597
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Speaker 1: Think about all that and just think, just just sit

598
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: on those facts, and maybe you'll start to understand where

599
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm getting at here. The thing that I think is

600
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: really interesting about him is that he apparently wanted to

601
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: go to Vietnam and he wanted to be a marine,

602
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: but his health I think he had health issues, you know,

603
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: which prevented him from not enlisting. Okay, he claims that

604
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: this is why he is obsessed with war and became

605
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: obsessed with war and doing like war in Western films,

606
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: is because he wanted to be a soldier so bad

607
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: and couldn't that it became like an obsession for him.

608
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Speaker 5: That's bleak, Like I mean, right, I thought that was

609
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 5: like I thought that was kind of intense.

610
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 1: And if you read about him, if you read interviews

611
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: with him, he's he's basically like one of these guys.

612
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: He's a self described sort of Hollywood outsider. Apparently he

613
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: was the inspiration for the John Goodman character from The

614
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: Big Lebowski. What So remember that character.

615
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: The yellow glasses, the.

616
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: Fucking like military speak. So just imagine that character. And

617
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: I think this is like I'm starting to paint a

618
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: picture of a person here, Okay, right, I mean, he

619
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: holds a lot of sort of conservative values, even though

620
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: I think he I think that he claims that he's

621
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: an anarchist, which is very interesting. But if you go

622
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: down the line of sort of like what what he's about,

623
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: he just he and I we just do not share

624
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: the same values. I'll just leave it at that. And

625
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm not going to go down this

626
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: rabbit hole. But like, think of everything I've just talked about.

627
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: Look at the movies in his filmography, including this one.

628
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: You do the Math.

629
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: You do the Math?

630
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 2: Okay, so fantastic, fantastic job draw draw your own conclusion,

631
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 2: but great job setting it up.

632
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 1: Where does with Red Dawn? This movie is very interesting

633
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: to me? Okay, I will say this, so you know,

634
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: I've set this sort of up through the lens of

635
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: the person who directed and co wrote it. Okay, Now,

636
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: from what I've understood, when they when Kevin Reynolds, who

637
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: is the other writer, came with the script or with

638
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: the idea, I think initially it was supposed to have

639
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: been more kind of like a Lord of the Flies

640
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: type of scenario, which I think is very interesting. I

641
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: do love movies about kids who have to like work

642
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: together in order to like survive. Right, That seems like

643
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: conceptually very a very interesting thing to me. But what

644
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: I think happened and this is like something like if

645
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: you go and read about Red Dawn and how it

646
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: was sort of like produced and the history of how

647
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: this movie got made. It's so interesting because you know

648
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: it was being shopped around. I think MGM eventually had

649
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: interest in wanting to make it. There was somebody on

650
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: the board of directors of MGM who was like a

651
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: general basically was like a military person who was in

652
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: the Nixon administration. So it was like a political military

653
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: guy who is now serving on the board of this

654
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: like movie studio.

655
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 2: Okay, WHOA what a leap?

656
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: What a leap? And was like I want to take

657
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: this under my wing. This is like this is my

658
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 1: film to make, like Let's go. And so I read

659
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: some quote in one of the interviews that I read

660
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: about this film that John Millius. The quote was Millius

661
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: was signed to direct the film at a fee of

662
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: one point two to five million plus a gun of

663
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: his choice.

664
00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, I don't want to draw a direct

665
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: line from then to now and how we've gotten ourselves

666
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: entangled politically in Hollywood. But okay, I put that in

667
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: a contract is fucking insane.

668
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is again like am I painting

669
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: a picture here?

670
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: Folks.

671
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, so you've got this like x ex

672
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 1: Nixon administration general guy who wants to make this movie

673
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: with someone who was sort of already like leaning towards

674
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: those values generally. And you're like, okay, so now here

675
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: comes a movie about these kids who basically like protect

676
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: America against communism.

677
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: Wonder where that thought came from? Well, exactly like that

678
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: far leap.

679
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: And but here's the thing. So in the eighties, to remember,

680
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: everybody was obsessed with Russia and with beating Russia. There

681
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: was so many movies that pulsed with this concept, you know,

682
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: like it was just the the era the Cold War, era.

683
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: Right then you've got like the eighties kids, who I

684
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: think were just a lot of these like teenage boys

685
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: in the eighties that were obsessed with like weapons and

686
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 1: military and martial arts and ninjas and shit.

687
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: You know.

688
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 1: It was like a very like this very it's almost

689
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: like a a handshake of like eighties American masculinity that

690
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 1: was sort of happening in the films of this era,

691
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: right And I will say for the most part, like

692
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up in this era as a

693
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: child of the eighties, and I definitely remember this, and

694
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: I definitely took part in a lot of this. I

695
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: love eighties action films. I loved fucking wrestling when I

696
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: was a kid. I loved you know, martial arts movies

697
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: from the eighties.

698
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: You know.

699
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: So there was like this kind of like this kind

700
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: of blood was running through the streets for us in

701
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: this era. And there is a part of that that

702
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: is activated when I watched this movie again where I

703
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, yeah, like, wasn't it fun being

704
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: like a dirtbag eighties kid, like jumping off the furniture

705
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: and like tackling people and you know, run around, you know,

706
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: the neighborhood with water guns, you know, pulling pranks on people,

707
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: like just being like a rough neck eighties kid. But

708
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: then again, when you think about it too much and

709
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: you think about this movie too much, you're like, oh shit,

710
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot going on here, Like, well, this

711
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: is politically.

712
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: Especially, Yeah, politically, there's a lot going on. And I

713
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 2: think there's something weird about how they were starting to

714
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: capitalize on the teen the dreamy teen. Yeah, you know,

715
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: I think that. You know, of course, there'd been movies

716
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: prior to this that featured teenagers that were you know,

717
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 2: sex symbols or whatever. But like, there is something about

718
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: this era and bringing these teenagers into a political discussion

719
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: that kind of gave them more gravitas than would previously

720
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: have been given. And people were really pushing like these

721
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 2: are like hot young kids who were like doing it. Yeah,

722
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: they're fighting for their country. And I'm like, this is

723
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: all very propagandized. Yeah, in every possible fucking way.

724
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And like and here's the thing, so we've got,

725
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: you know, this cast of this film, which is legendary

726
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: for many reasons. So Francis Ford Coppola's The Outsiders came

727
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: out the year before in nineteen eighty three. So you

728
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 1: have this pairing again of this reteaming of c Thomas

729
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: Howell the actor with Patrick Swayze, you know what, both

730
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: lead actors and Red Dawn. Okay, eventually you would get

731
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: another repairing because guess welse is in this movie Jennifer

732
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: Gray of course, Patrick Swayze. Jennifer Gray later went on

733
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: to make Dirty Dancing.

734
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 2: And Jennifer Gray and Charlie Sheen.

735
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: Exactly we're in Ferris Bueller's Day Off together. So you've

736
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: got these, you know, actors who would work together before

737
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: and after this film, and then you add people like

738
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: Leah Thompson, who was also you know it, Back to

739
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: the Future in some kind of wonderful and so you've

740
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: got like these kits that were in these kind of

741
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: teen movies at the time. And the vibe is this.

742
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to go throughout the entire

743
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: beat by beat thing, because it is kind of like

744
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: over time you sort of understand what the hell is

745
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: going on. But the beginning of the film, it begins

746
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: with this absolutely insane premise which I think is just

747
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: so absolutely insane, which is that like these kids are

748
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: hanging out at their American high school just in class

749
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: in Colorado and Colorado, and their teacher like looks out

750
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: the window and sees Russian soldiers parachuting onto the grounds

751
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: of their high school. And then they these soldiers just

752
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: start blowing everyone to smitherines like fucking destroying kids, teachers.

753
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: Kids are hanging out of windows.

754
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: Dead like.

755
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: Insane previce to start a hook, good, right, And so

756
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: it's fucking madness because they're like, I don't understand what's happening,

757
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: and like you look in this you look in the

758
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: distance and there's just parachuters coming to from the sky

759
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: like a drone show at the baseball game on a

760
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: Friday night. It looks insane. So then you understand that

761
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: these kids are trying to get away. Patrick Swayzee, who

762
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: is sort of the oldest older brother character, you know,

763
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: he pulls up in his Chevy Chyenne pickup truck and

764
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: it's like get in, got we gotta move. Obviously there

765
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: are people getting blowed up by weird soldiers coming down

766
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: from the sky, and so the kids, like the kids

767
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: that can make it, like jump in the back in

768
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: the back of the truck and then they kind of

769
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: just drive off into the middle distance and this is

770
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: where the movie begins because basically they're like, what the

771
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: fuck is going on? Just drive away from this madness

772
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: and then we'll quickly kind of reorient ourselves once we

773
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: stop and get supplies at this like gas station that's

774
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: owned by one of the characters fathers. Now here's what

775
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: I will say about this. This shit happens too quick

776
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: for me. There is really like no proper setup for

777
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: all of it.

778
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: There is no setup at all that makes you give

779
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: a shit about any of these characters. Now the duration

780
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 2: of the film, and I will.

781
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: Say, I feel like that is something that your movie

782
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: does way better. They really perfected it because the original

783
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: it's it is like too confusing. It gets going too

784
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: fast for me. You don't establish anything. Basically, it's like, oh,

785
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 1: by the way, like five minutes in you're like, what's happening?

786
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: No one has any explanation for this. So once the

787
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: movie gets going after this point, you realize what is

788
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: actually happening in the film, which is that World War

789
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: three is essentially upon us and the Russians and the

790
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: Cubans have invaded America and they are going to take over,

791
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: and they're really going to show the Americans that their

792
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: way of life is fun up and it basically is

793
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: the absolute fear of every person who was living in

794
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: the eighties is that communism was going to take over

795
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: their American way of life.

796
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 2: The fact that they threw Cuba in there is wild.

797
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: Right, right, And you know, essentially now these kids have

798
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: become gorillas. They're just like now trying to like protect themselves.

799
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: They they you know, basically move into the woods and

800
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 1: exist off of like canned foods, and you know, they've

801
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: got they've gotten supplies, weapons, you know, any kind of

802
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: military tactical gear that they could get their hands on.

803
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: And the town that they used to live it has

804
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: now been completely militarized and their parents and their friends

805
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: are being put into like camps basically and being shot

806
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: firing squad style, including Patrick Swayze's father, who was played

807
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: by Harry Dean Stanton. And it's this wild scene that

808
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: happens where Patrick Swayze's character and his little brother who

809
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: is with him go they like sneak back into the

810
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: town to figure out what the hell is going on.

811
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: They realize their dad is like behind a fence, and

812
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: Harry Dean Stanton like this entire scene is so insane.

813
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: All these boys are crying, like weeping. Harry Dean Stanton

814
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: is like sitting there. I can't tell if he is

815
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,959
Speaker 1: trying to be his acting style this moment is either

816
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: he's either drunk or he's like trying a little like

817
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: maybe it's out of place for him to be this

818
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: emotional in this film. It's very interesting. Like the close

819
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: up on Harry Dean Stanton's face in this moment is

820
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: just like, what is happening right now? Is he too

821
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: good for this film? Or is he wasted? Hard trips?

822
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: And then and then there was like this moment where

823
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: the boy he's just like he's like, boys, just go

824
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: on and get away from here and leave, you know,

825
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: I'll be fine or whatever. And then it's like they

826
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: walk off and the Herodane stands starts screaming Avenge me,

827
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: Avenge me, which I think is kind of classic at

828
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: this point, Like a lot of people remember that part.

829
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: It comes out of fucking nowhere. He's like, it's cool, guys,

830
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: just go do your thing. It's cool. Ave mem I

831
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 2: was like, you're like, wait, we don't know enough about

832
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: this character to even know what they're avenging. Just the

833
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 2: fact that he's there, dad.

834
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: Yo, what is happening right now?

835
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 2: What did he do? What was his job? What was

836
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 2: his life? What was how is he as a dad?

837
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 3: Like?

838
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: Give us anything?

839
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, wasn't enough setup. It feels like the avenge Me

840
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: thing should have happened like at least forty five minutes

841
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: to an hour into the film, not in the first

842
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: like twenty minutes. Having said that, so you got this

843
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: whole thing now, which is basically like kids, they have

844
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: eventually taught themselves guerrilla warfare, which I don't know how

845
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: they've done it. And again, I think that's where your

846
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 1: movie excels because they actually have a montage sequence where

847
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: the kids learn how to like be soldiers. But in

848
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: the original movie, in my movie, they just suddenly know

849
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: how to like pop out of foxholes with pelts on

850
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: like I'm just like what happened? How did this happen?

851
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: And then and then here's how it goes. So the

852
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: boys are like, you know, oh shit, like things are dire.

853
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: Eventually they go and visit I guess you know, a

854
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: house that these two adults live in, and and then

855
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: then the older man essentially says to them, Hey, I

856
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: got these two granddaughters. I need you to protect them.

857
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 1: And the granddaughters are played by Leah Thompson and Jennifer Gray,

858
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: and so now these two girls have joined the squad.

859
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: And I have to say, I love Jennifer Gray and

860
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: Lea Thompson so much. I'm glad they're in this film.

861
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: I think Lea Thompson in this film is a badass.

862
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: She is basically just like, don't fucking sassy, Like you boys,

863
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: don't fucking talk to me about shit.

864
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: Oh well, like I'm here to kill. I'm here to

865
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 2: kill and defend my fucking country and my grandparents.

866
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to survive. I got no makeup on, Okay,

867
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: I got a machine gun, and I don't need you

868
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: to do shit for me. That I was like, Oh,

869
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: she's probably the best part of this film for me

870
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: at this point. But basically, like the so the granddaughters

871
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: have joined the struggle. Okay, they're trying to eventually get

872
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: to what they call free America, which is I guess,

873
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: out of the occupation zone of these Russians and Cubans

874
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: that have invaded Colorado or wherever. They start calling themselves

875
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: the Wolverines. That's like they're the freedom fighters the Wolverines.

876
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 2: Which is based on their high school sports team.

877
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: Name exactly, and they kind of become like, you know,

878
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 1: legends that like the the Russians and the Cubans are like, fuck,

879
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: these Wolverines are real good. We're gonna have to hunt

880
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: them because we can't just like turn our backs on

881
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: these on these kids. They are wreck and shop here

882
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: because they have rocket launchers. Now see Thomas Howell shows

883
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: up with a rocket launcher.

884
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: They have RPGs.

885
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: What again? How do they learn how to shoot these things? Like,

886
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm very curious, you know, I'm like, it just doesn't

887
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: get worked out in a in a satisfying way for me,

888
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: and I think it does in your film. But anyway,

889
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: having said that, the rest of this film is kind

890
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: of has you, and it's basically like the kids versus

891
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: the communists and all hell is broken loose. At one point,

892
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 1: the kids like stupple across this Air Force soldier who

893
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: is you know, basically separated from a squad, and I mean,

894
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: this guy is the best part of the movie for me.

895
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: He's played by Powers Booth and like, he's great. He

896
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 1: explains literally everything that's happening, and I can't. I can't

897
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 1: understand why he didn't show up earlier in the film.

898
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Where were you an

899
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 2: hour ago? Because this movie is also two hours long,

900
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 2: Like where were you an hour and a half ago? Dude?

901
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: It is so long. And that was the other thing too,

902
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: It was like I forgot how long it was. But

903
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: he's the best part of this movie besides Lea Thompson.

904
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting here going like, yo, you showed up

905
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: way too late. And then he like leaves and I

906
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: won't tell you how he leaves. I think you might know,

907
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: but it's just this craziness. It's just craziness all over

908
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: the place. Mean, and meanwhile, well, like it's kind of

909
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: moving into this crescendo of like, so these kids are

910
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: going to have to like figure out they realize that

911
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: there's maybe like a spy in their midst. They realize

912
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: that they're going to make some hard choices about who

913
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: lives and who dies. You know, it becomes this like

914
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: this movie about sort of like individual human behavior in

915
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: wartime scenarios, right, and then you remember, oh, these are

916
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: high school kids. How weird is that? And again it's

917
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: like I won't go on from there. I mean, I

918
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: feel like I've given you enough information at the top

919
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: to really inform you about like the tone of this film.

920
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: It feels very pro America. It's definitely obsessed with military

921
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: and you know, sort of like the preservation of American life,

922
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: you know versus communism, right, which again a very eighties concept.

923
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: But I gotta say, I was like, yo, this movie

924
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: is way more intense than I ever remembered. Like I

925
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: think I saw it initially as like a, Oh, isn't

926
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: this like a funny eighties movie where Charlie Sheen is like,

927
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: you know, blowing people up, and you know, it's like,

928
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: oh wow, how how eighties is this? But then I

929
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: don't know. I guess I guess now in my older years,

930
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm going, God, this movie is fucking weird, Like this

931
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: is a weird, intense movie.

932
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 2: It's fucking weird. It's a little too hot and heavy

933
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 2: on the America. Fuck yeah for me, especially at this

934
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 2: moment in time, where I'm like, h yeah. But it's

935
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: also doesn't explain anything. It's just pure like it's pure propaganda.

936
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 2: It is get your kids involved in the fight against communism,

937
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 2: And it's not even like they've they've rested on their

938
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 2: laurels enough, let's get them involved in this shit.

939
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: Well, and it's not even like stars Troopers. I mean,

940
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: we just talked about that film Starship Troopers. There's a

941
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: nod and a wink to what was going on there, right,

942
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: It's basically like, oh, here's like this kind of movie

943
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: that seems very like pro military, pro this, but it's

944
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: obviously a critique of of of a of a fascist

945
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: culture or of a of a world where we're like

946
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 1: in just the military industrial complexness of the future. This

947
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: is like, there's no critique going on. This is like

948
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: I want to see some kids blow up some commies.

949
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 2: I'm critiquet all.

950
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: Crazy, I think. I think if we transition over to

951
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 1: talking about the remake now with your film, I've got

952
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 1: to say, I feel like this might be the first

953
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: time that we've done this theme where I feel like

954
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: the remake was slightly better or at least with some

955
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: slightly more coherent I don't know if you thought that,

956
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know your thoughts about it.

957
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: Obviously we'll find out. But for me, I I appreciated

958
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: seeing your film so for you that just because you

959
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: can doesn't mean you should?

960
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 2: Is for the original?

961
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like just be kinny, Okay, I

962
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: feel like my party line is this just because you

963
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: can't doesn't mean you should.

964
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: For both.

965
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: However, if you did at least this one is the

966
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: more coherent one.

967
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 2: If you must if thirty years and release the more

968
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 2: coherent one, if you.

969
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: Simply, if pressed, put Chris has Worth in it, it'll

970
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: make sense.

971
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 2: Oh go, what a transition? What a transition? In my film,

972
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 2: which was released in twenty twelve, the screenplays by Carl

973
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 2: Ellsworth and Jeremy Passmore, It was directed by Dan Bradley

974
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 2: and guess what, it's also Red Dawn. I was supposed

975
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: to too. I'm going to fight. Anybody who wants to

976
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 2: join is welcome to it. And my one sentence for

977
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 2: the for the remake is everything is is the same.

978
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 2: We're just at We're with a lot more countries. Now

979
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 2: we just have more enemies. America has just keeping steamrolling

980
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: through people for all of time, and now everyone.

981
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: Hates a North Korea has entered. The conversation is basically, also.

982
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 2: We have we have cyber threats, we have the Middle East.

983
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 2: At one point the news mentions crimes against humanity, Russia

984
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 2: still on the table as a massive hater, and now

985
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 2: Kim Jong Kim Jong un and North Korea have entered

986
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 2: the chat, and there's like a five It goes on

987
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 2: for too long. There's like a five minute explanation of

988
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 2: the state of the world at the very beginning of

989
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 2: the film that I think tries to cement it in,

990
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 2: all right, we're not doing this one about pure communism anymore,

991
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 2: but here's what's going on in your current world that

992
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 2: should get you all riled up. It's still a little

993
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,959
Speaker 2: too pro America of a movie for me, but they're

994
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 2: definitely like laying out the fucking enemies. Now, there are differences.

995
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 2: So the Jed Ecker character played by Patrick Swayze in

996
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 2: My movie and the remake was played by Chris Hemsworth,

997
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 2: and Chris Hemsworth is a marine and he comes home

998
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 2: and he's watching his little brother's football game, and that

999
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 2: is to me one of the most startling differences right

1000
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 2: out of the gate is that they basically pair an

1001
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 2: actual adult, like a war torn adult, with these high

1002
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 2: school kids, so they instantly have more knowledge because they

1003
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,439
Speaker 2: have a marine leading the way for them.

1004
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: Okay, this is the point I wanted to bring up

1005
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: right out of the gate, because this what is the

1006
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: reason why I think this movie makes more sense ultimately,

1007
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: is because this, Okay, even though you have an adult

1008
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: that is hanging out with some high school kids, I

1009
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: guess in this film, at least you it makes sense

1010
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: that he knows what he knows and can distill the

1011
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: information to the others. In the first movie, Patrick Swayzee

1012
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: just feels like some guy's older brother. That is, there's like,

1013
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: is he Native American? I think that's maybe the only

1014
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: like there's some tie to to him being possibly Native American.

1015
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's actually true in the

1016
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: context of the film, but I'm like, well, where does

1017
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: he learn any of this stuff? Like where does he

1018
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: get his you know, survival skills from or wherever? And

1019
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: they don't flesh that out in my movie at all.

1020
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: But in your movie at least it makes sense, right.

1021
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 2: It's a little bit more fleshed out. Because we also

1022
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 2: learned that the Eckerts, who is again Chris Hemsworth and

1023
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 2: his little brother Matt played by Josh peck who I

1024
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 2: I don't know from Adam. I don't know that's the

1025
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 2: other thing that it was kind of like, I don't

1026
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 2: know most of these actors or these children. I did

1027
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 2: eventually realize that one of them was Connor Cruz, Tom

1028
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 2: Cruise and Nicole Kisman's son.

1029
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: Oh.

1030
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 2: I didn't know that, yes, because I was looking at him, like,

1031
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 2: he looks so familiar and he's got such a baby face.

1032
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 2: Who is he? Oh? His dad is like the action

1033
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 2: movie Dude.

1034
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: You know.

1035
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 2: I recognized Adrian Pulicki from from Friday Night Lights and

1036
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 2: a few other things, but like, for the most part,

1037
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 2: I don't know these children. I think for half of

1038
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 2: the movie I thought that Josh Hutcherson, that Josh Hutcherson

1039
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 2: was Tom Holland.

1040
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's from Hogger Games, right, Josh Hutcherson.

1041
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 2: I guess I don't know him. I don't know this

1042
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 2: child man. Whoever, at this point he's probably a man,

1043
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 2: but I'm like, I don't know. In twenty twelve, I

1044
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 2: missed this whole, like graduating class of actors. I think

1045
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 2: Josh Peck was on like a Disney Channel show and

1046
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 2: I only recognized him from a documentary I washed recently

1047
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 2: about like Nickelodeon shows. Yeah, but I for sure thought

1048
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 2: that Josh Hutcherson was Tom Holland for half the fucking movie. Ha.

1049
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 2: So they're like, there are some differences, but these brothers.

1050
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 2: The thing that's again more laid out in the beginning

1051
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 2: of the film is that the Ecker brothers their dad

1052
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 2: is like the chief of police. So their dad is

1053
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 2: on the scene and he's you know, tells them to

1054
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 2: go to the cabin. So you get this feeling that like, Okay,

1055
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 2: they've hunted with their dad. They've been in this cabin

1056
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 2: a lot. And one of them is a marine and

1057
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 2: one of them is a chief of police, so it

1058
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 2: makes a little more sense where the guns come into play.

1059
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 2: So they kind of go out and you know, they're

1060
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,439
Speaker 2: at a bar and it's one of those movie bars

1061
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 2: where it's okay for high schoolers to drink, and they

1062
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 2: kind of, you know, there's a little bit of flirtation

1063
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 2: between Tony, who the Jennifer Gray character is played by

1064
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 2: Adrian Pulicky in this movie, and Jed, and they end

1065
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 2: up like there's a blackout, like a town wide blackout,

1066
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 2: and they all go home and for some reason, like

1067
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 2: Jed beats his brother home even though his brother left first.

1068
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 2: That's the kind of continuity shit that just does me

1069
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 2: in when I'm watching movies. And the next morning they

1070
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 2: wake up to a metric fuckedn of parachutes and fighter

1071
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 2: jets in the sky being blown up above them. Yeah.

1072
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 2: Also they're in Spokane, Washington. Okay, so that's where the

1073
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 2: scene is set now is Spokane, Washington, parachutes, fighter jets.

1074
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 2: Immediately they go into action. They're like, let's find dad.

1075
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 2: They get into their truck, which has been updated to

1076
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 2: a GMC, but it's still like a baby blue truck.

1077
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 2: They drive through a fire and kill a parachuter with

1078
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 2: their truck to find their dad, and that's when their

1079
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 2: dad's like, go to the fucking cabin. We still have

1080
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 2: no idea what's going on, Like we can kind of

1081
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 2: infer what's happening, but there's no explanation. So as much

1082
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 2: as this movie does a good job, like the remake

1083
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 2: does a good job explaining some things that the original

1084
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 2: left out, they still leave us in the dark for

1085
01:03:54,600 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 2: a long time. And of course, the little brother, old

1086
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 2: Matt Eckert, wants to get his girlfriend, so they try

1087
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 2: to go to his girlfriend, Erica's house, and Eric's played

1088
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 2: by Isabelle Lucas again don't know who she is. They

1089
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 2: go to Erica's house and Erica's being like rounded up

1090
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 2: with her family and marched out of the house, and

1091
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 2: you know, but don't worry. The two nerds from the

1092
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 2: night before, not Tom Holland and Tom Cruise's son, hop

1093
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 2: in the back of the fucking truck, this pickup truck,

1094
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 2: and now they're just collecting kids. They're just like collecting

1095
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 2: people along the way. So you learn that Connor Cruse's character, Darryl,

1096
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 2: is the mayor's son, and there's some kids from San

1097
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 2: Diego who were just visiting and just happen to be

1098
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 2: caught on vacation in this major rift. But what I

1099
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 2: primarily want to point out is that I am calling

1100
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 2: major fucking bullshit on Matt Eckert in this scene wearing

1101
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 2: a Dinosaur junior T shirt. We had to watch him

1102
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 2: play football and be that fucking dude at the beginning

1103
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 2: of the film. Though now he's wearing a Dinosaur junior

1104
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 2: T shirt. History matters, people, Uh huh, that dude would

1105
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 2: not be wearing that shirt or listening to that band.

1106
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 2: And I know I sound like a shitty gen xer now,

1107
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 2: but I'm just saying, you can't conflate this shit just

1108
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 2: because you think it's cool. He's not that guy. He

1109
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 2: is the shitty high school football player guy. He's not

1110
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 2: the dinosaur junior guy, which is a very different guy. Okay,

1111
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 2: So now these kids are at this cabin with all

1112
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 2: these people. They figure out that their enemy is this

1113
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 2: guy named Captain cho who's like head of the prefect

1114
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 2: of the North Korean military for this region. Captain Chow

1115
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 2: is like fuck these kids, Like, we know what's up

1116
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 2: because these kids are already starting See he watched them

1117
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 2: basically drive away, so he's like, all right, these kids

1118
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 2: are gonna be bad news. So the mayor is brought

1119
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 2: to the cabin with the police chief and at first

1120
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 2: Mayor Dad is like, yo, kids, come out of the woods,

1121
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 2: stop fucking around. Then the police dad hops on the

1122
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 2: mic and he's it's like, yo, go to war or

1123
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 2: die trying. And then Chose shoots him in the fucking

1124
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 2: head in front of them, and they're like, we gotta

1125
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,919
Speaker 2: fight for our home. We gotta fight for our home.

1126
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 2: That's what Jed's big deal is, like, we gotta fight

1127
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 2: for this shit. And I'm like, don't listen to the marine.

1128
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 2: Don't listen to the fucking marine. Get out of there,

1129
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 2: Go find free America, go to a different part of

1130
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 2: the woods. Of course, the marine wants to fight, but

1131
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 2: he does. He teaches them how to fight. Is a

1132
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 2: unit and they make references to call a duty and

1133
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 2: it's very modern in that way. But I also want

1134
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 2: to know, like what are they eating in these woods,

1135
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 2: because the first movie made a big deal about how

1136
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 2: they were eating like canned beans and they were like

1137
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 2: they had some sustenance. I can't go to war if I

1138
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 2: don't know what the snacks.

1139
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: Are, Like, I mean, yeah, it's first of all, by

1140
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: and large, this entire crew like in this film were gorgeous.

1141
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: It all looked like beautiful, like like that was like

1142
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 1: the one thing that I did notice is that like

1143
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 1: the women who were involved in this in the the

1144
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: female wolverines in the remake were like beautiful, sexy, like

1145
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: they maybe they bartended at coyote ugly and a you know.

1146
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 1: I was just like, like these were not the kind

1147
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: of like makeup less, rough and tumble gals of the

1148
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: first one. Like I was just like, oh, they're like

1149
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: beautiful and they are wearing lip gloss even though World

1150
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 1: War three is happening.

1151
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 2: Genuinely, so my shadow was still on the menu.

1152
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 1: I shadow still on the menu, and I was. And

1153
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 1: there was a little bit more of the romance element

1154
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: to this film, which I was kind of like, come on,

1155
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: but again, it's a Hollywood movie. But I was like,

1156
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, this is like so so, yeah, there

1157
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 1: was a lot of like it didn't feel as survivally

1158
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 1: as the first one in that way.

1159
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 2: No, because they also had like a unit, they had

1160
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 2: a they set up some kind of communication with people

1161
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 2: in town where they could get supplies and food, and

1162
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 2: there was like a joke about how they kind of

1163
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 2: bum rushed into the subway and ran away with like

1164
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 2: a bucket of iced tea and the again, like you said,

1165
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 2: that romance was definitely more heightened. Yeah, even though it

1166
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 2: was very strange that when they first met, she's like, oh, yeah,

1167
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 2: our parents used to hang out and you used to

1168
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 2: babysit for us, and I'm like, don't go there, let's

1169
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 2: not go there all that, come on, come on. But

1170
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 2: I think the simple addition of Chris Hemsworth meant it

1171
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 2: was going to be a sexier affair.

1172
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I listen. I'm a huge Patrick Swayze fan.

1173
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 1: I've gone on record for that. He's like pretty much

1174
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 1: my dream man. Besides Channing Tatum. Actually they're kind of

1175
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,480
Speaker 1: the same person if you want to get down to wrestles.

1176
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 1: Patrick and Channing Tatum are the same person. But but yeah,

1177
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 1: even in the original, like Patrick Swayze wasn't like sex god,

1178
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, roadhouse, dirty dancing Patrick Swayze, he was, you know,

1179
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: still kind of like he kind of was like more

1180
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 1: of a like outdoorsy type, but like there was no

1181
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: romance going on there.

1182
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 2: Like, no, he was down to business. He's like, well,

1183
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 2: if what we're doing is fighting, then I got to

1184
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 2: focus on fighting.

1185
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna drink this dear blood and kick some

1186
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 1: ass for America. But yeah, I think you're right. With Emsworth,

1187
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: the instant edition of Chris Hemsworth meant that he had

1188
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 1: to make out with someone, like it had to happen.

1189
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 2: And he's making out with someone who apparently has been

1190
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 2: in the woods for months. Because again, there's no I

1191
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 2: don't think they gave us any timeline. I could have

1192
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 2: been wrong because I was definitely playing video games while

1193
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 2: I was watching this. I was definitely rolling up some

1194
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 2: shit in Katamari Demasi while I was watching this, because

1195
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 2: even though it's a half hour shorter, it still goes

1196
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 2: on for fucking ever. I love that, But I don't

1197
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 2: give us any kind of it's a great game, and like,

1198
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 2: they don't give us any who had a fucking timeline.

1199
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 2: But I'm like, if they've been out in the woods

1200
01:09:53,040 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 2: for even two weeks, somebody would have some armpit hair growing. Yeah, Tony, Yeah,

1201
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 2: that Tony, Erica, all y'all would have some kind of

1202
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 2: pit hair situation happening. And they're running around in tank

1203
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 2: tops with their bare arms, And I'm like, you, guys,

1204
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 2: this is why you have to get women involved in

1205
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 2: writing this shit.

1206
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: I was like, they're still they still got their glossier

1207
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 1: lip pan.

1208
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 2: So I don't think I've seen a single action movie

1209
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:22,560
Speaker 2: where women had fucking pit hair. Yeah, And I'm like,

1210
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 2: if you're rolling through the desert, if you're fighting in

1211
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 2: the woods, if you're fucking Angelina Joe Lee playing lore Craws,

1212
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 2: like you would have hairy legs and Harry.

1213
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 3: Pitts, Yeah, you'd be sick stopping the like, yeah, you'd

1214
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 3: be fucking disgustingly smell like hell, you would not be

1215
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 3: stopping to shave your fucking legs with a bowie knife

1216
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 3: in the middle of the jungle.

1217
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 2: Okay, So there's this love story and the marine teaches

1218
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 2: them how to fight, and they're eating stuff and they're

1219
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 2: stealing tanks and weapons like they just know how to

1220
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 2: do everything. Like this guy was like, I was in

1221
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 2: a rock so I know how to steal a tank,

1222
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 2: no problem. And at one point they're going through and

1223
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 2: stealing weapons and one of the kid says, Hey, isn't

1224
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 2: this C four And then he throws it at Jed,

1225
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 2: like if you know what it is, you know what's

1226
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 2: a highly volatile substance, But he just chucks it at him,

1227
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what the fuck? And Jed, by the way,

1228
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 2: he's like he and his brother are like bullying the

1229
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 2: Hutcherson character with the dear Blood scene, and it's like

1230
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 2: in the first movie, I felt like it was very

1231
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 2: innocent and like, yeah, we all do this, but then

1232
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:27,719
Speaker 2: in this film it felt like more of a bullying tactic.

1233
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 2: And I'm like, again, don't let the marine lead you.

1234
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 2: He's got emotional problems going on here. Not all marines,

1235
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 2: but this marine has emotional issues. They come up with

1236
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 2: a plan. Lots of people get shot. Josh Peck risks

1237
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 2: the lives of everyone he knows to save a single

1238
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 2: white girl.

1239
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 1: Of course, Oh my god, that drove me fucking bananas, Like.

1240
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 2: Just blew the plan out of the water because he

1241
01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 2: saw his girlfriend and his dick twitched.

1242
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 1: I know, and he's like, I gotta get on that

1243
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 1: bus and see no plan just fucking gets people killed.

1244
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 2: Mayhem. That's like again kind of in line with the

1245
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 2: original movie. Three more marines show up. They're part of

1246
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 2: the Free American Army, and it's like Jeffrey Dean Morgan

1247
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 2: and Kenneth Choi and a couple other dudes and one

1248
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 2: other dude. But it's basically like you. By the end

1249
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 2: of this movie, it's just you know, people are dying,

1250
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 2: people betray each other. It's a mess. Most of the

1251
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 2: Spokane is blown up, and the ending is terrible. Ah,

1252
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 2: and that is terrible, Like I think they wanted it

1253
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 2: to have more emotional heft than it actually had, but

1254
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 2: it is bad. Yeah, and then it just abruptly ends

1255
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 2: and you're like, all right, what the fuck was that? Yeah?

1256
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 1: There was, Like I said, I feel like it leveled

1257
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 1: up in certain ways. It made the backstory more clear.

1258
01:12:56,640 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: It gave believability to the concept that these high school

1259
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:06,679
Speaker 1: kids would somehow become gorilla warriors. However, there was still

1260
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: a lot of wild shit on the table for me.

1261
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: Oh too wild. I was like, again, Yeah, they added

1262
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 1: a couple of little spices to this, including going to

1263
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: get the white girl on the bus. They out they

1264
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: deserted the only black character that in their group because

1265
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:36,440
Speaker 1: he got shot with like some kind of tracking censor.

1266
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 2: And they're like, like a dog, you know, like you

1267
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:42,719
Speaker 2: went a dog.

1268
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he's just like leave me, leave me,

1269
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh god, are we doing this?

1270
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 2: I mean, they can operate a fucking tank, but they

1271
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:52,759
Speaker 2: can't cut out a tracking device.

1272
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1273
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 1: That was the thing where I was like, just cut

1274
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: his arm off. What the fuck? As long as we're

1275
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 1: making shit up.

1276
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 2: Do you not have tweezer was getting there with some

1277
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 2: tweezers and rubbing alcohol the fuck or they might.

1278
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 1: Have hit him in the in the side or something.

1279
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 1: I was like, come on, folks, like, as long as

1280
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 1: we're truly just making shit up, because it's World War three,

1281
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 1: I mean, this is just it's such a wild concept,

1282
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 1: like the concept of the film, no matter when it's

1283
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 1: being made, is too wild for me.

1284
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 2: I just it's too wild. It's too wild. It will

1285
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 2: never make sense as a theme for a movie.

1286
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 1: I mean, at least in the first one. I don't know,

1287
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 1: I can't remember if this actually got replicated in the

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Speaker 1: in the remake, but the part where Jennifer Gray gets

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Speaker 1: shot and then it's like, just give me your grenade

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Speaker 1: and I'll just lay here and listen to the wind

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Speaker 1: and then blow myself up.

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Speaker 2: That is weirdly not replicated.

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Speaker 1: It's like, holy shit, because it went so hard.

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Speaker 2: Also, these are children in your movie. I'm like, these

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Speaker 2: are children who, prior to this event of people parachuting

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Speaker 2: into their Colorado town, did not indicate that they gave

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Speaker 2: a fucking shit about communism or what was happening in

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Speaker 2: the world.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Like the opening scene is a history teacher trying to

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Speaker 2: explain to them what's happening in the world, and they're

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Speaker 2: just like sleeping and drooling.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Also, same with my kids. My kids are just trying

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Speaker 2: to fuck each other the whole movie until these people

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Speaker 2: parachute into their lives.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it just feels. I mean, ah god, I don't

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Speaker 1: even know what to say about it, like this again again,

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Speaker 1: and I think with both these films, I was just like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: well it happened. I guess it happened.

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Speaker 2: And like, I think this is the rare just because

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Speaker 2: you can't doesn't mean you should applies to both.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm This is what I think too.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Wow, this is insane, and I'm sure there

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Speaker 1: are just some like there. I know that you're original.

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Speaker 1: Red Dawn has a fan base. I mean, there's so

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Speaker 1: many people that think it's ridiculous, and it's just so

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Speaker 1: emblematic of like this kind of eighties hyper masculine American

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Speaker 1: culture that was happening. And again I understand that has

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Speaker 1: has its allure and has its benefits. And again, I

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Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like watching Rambo or watching

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Speaker 1: The Terminator or watching anything like you're you know, it's

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Speaker 1: this kind of overblown thing, right, but really, like I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I just think this it just it get

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Speaker 1: It got a little too intense for me both films

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Speaker 1: where I was just like, oh man, what did we do?

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Speaker 1: Why did we do this to ourself?

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Speaker 2: From zero to a hundred second.

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Speaker 1: Also, I have to I would be remiss, so I

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Speaker 1: didn't mention this. I don't know why I kept thinking

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Speaker 1: about this when I was watching. When I was watching

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Speaker 1: the remake your movie, did you know that Kim Jong

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Speaker 1: Ill wrote a book about film What? Yes, it's called

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Speaker 1: On the Art of Cinema and it was released in

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three.

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Speaker 2: What yep, okay, I'm looking that up now.

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Speaker 1: What Yes, he wrote a film book, So I guess

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Speaker 1: me and Kim Jong Ill have something in common. Weirdly enough,

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Speaker 1: I was like, I was like thinking about this when

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Speaker 1: I was watching your film. I think he actually he

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Speaker 1: might have died before the Red Dawn remake came out,

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Speaker 1: But I kept thinking, what would he think of Red Don.

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Speaker 2: What would this film lover think of being the center,

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Speaker 2: the center bastard in this remake?

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Speaker 1: What would Kim jong Ill rate Red Dawn twenty twelve

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Speaker 1: on letterbox? Oh my god, I could not some thinking

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Speaker 1: about that, and I was just because it's just such

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Speaker 1: a ridiculous I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous. But

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I forgot who wrote a film book?

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Speaker 1: And uh, I mean, I'm kind of there's a part

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Speaker 1: of me that wants to read it. But then I

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01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 1: also like should I that feels it feels hot.

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Speaker 2: I feel like just buying it puts you on a list.

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01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 1: Guess I don't want to be in a list. We're

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01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 1: already so much.

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Speaker 2: If you buy the Kim Jong Eel like cinema critique

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Speaker 2: book or the Anarchist cookbook, the FBI are showing up

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01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 2: to your door for certain I.

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Speaker 1: Was like, listen, officer, I'm just an edge lord. I

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01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 1: don't have any uh any desires to be a communist.

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Speaker 1: I am simply an edge lord wants to read a

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Speaker 1: fucking film book written by a fucking dictator. Is that okay?

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Speaker 2: Oh god, Casey, just make sure you don't put any

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Speaker 2: Kim Jong Eel or own description in the description, like,

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Speaker 2: do not put their names in there. We don't want

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Speaker 2: to be on the list.

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Speaker 1: No, again, we're on a list for this podcast. Just

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Speaker 1: a shame. Well, listen, we did it, We finished this,

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Speaker 1: this this theme just because you can doesn't mean as should.

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Speaker 1: We tackled Red Dawn in the remake, and I feel

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Speaker 1: like we went through some shit. You and I.

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Speaker 2: We really did it. We really did it to ourselves.

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01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 2: We did it to our audience and we got through.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we've reached any stunning conclusions, but

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Speaker 2: we reached some conclusions. Yeah, we had thoughts.

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Speaker 1: We're veterans of watching these two movies back to back.

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Speaker 1: That stands for something.

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Speaker 2: God, this was a Tuesday night for me. I did

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Speaker 2: it well. That week is gonna be fucking fire. But

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Speaker 2: we've got some info for you first.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I can wait for next week anyway. If you

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01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,240
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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. Send us questions for bonus, but

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Speaker 1: sometimes these questions pop up on a main episode, as

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01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 1: you heard earlier. Also, we have a po box if

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Speaker 1: you want to send us letters.

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01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,280
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Speaker 2: are in low numbers for a lot of stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so definitely go and buy it out. We would love

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Speaker 2: to see a full sellout by the end of the summer.

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Speaker 1: Agreed.

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Speaker 2: And you know we have bonus episodes that come for

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Speaker 2: you on the third Thursday of every month.

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Speaker 1: That is right. And oh my god, Danielle, what do

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Speaker 1: you want to what do you want to say about

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Speaker 1: next week?

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Speaker 2: I think you should put on your red shoes and

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Speaker 2: dance the blues because our movies next week are The

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Speaker 2: Last Waltz from nineteen seventy eight and Madonna Truth or

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Speaker 2: Dare from nineteen ninety one.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, what an epic double I cannot wait, Danielle.

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Speaker 2: I will be fully redemptive, fully redemptive, Danielle.

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Speaker 1: My beautiful American patriot. As always a fucking pleasure doing

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Speaker 1: this podcast with you.

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Speaker 2: Commandant to Jericho, always the best.

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Speaker 1: USA, USA, USA.

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Speaker 2: This has been an exactly right production. Our senior producer

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Speaker 2: is Casey O'Brien. Episode mixing and theme music by Tom Bryfogel,

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Speaker 2: artwork by Garrett Ross. Our executive producers are Georgia Hartstart Caring, Kilgarriff,

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