1 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: in Barria, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, presented by 3 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: Bally Batt, an official sports betting partner of your Cleveland 4 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: Brown's on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, 5 00:00:28,400 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura. 6 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: Are we doing it live? I feel like I can't 7 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: hear me. That's one of the ones closed, tre. 8 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 3: We go there we go now, Oh baby, hello, Hello, 9 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 3: lovely cav's going your op dummies go ahead at any point, 10 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 3: merely Bo the great zea. 11 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: It's eighty, the sun is out. I know, I feel 12 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: like we really should have been we should It was 13 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: one of those days. Yeah, because by Friday, by Thursday 14 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: and then Friday is going to be yesterday you were 15 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: giving the blues. Oh yeah, look on Friday. Look at it. 16 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 4: Well, let's check with the AQI weather, which so far 17 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 4: is three and oh is going to give you a 18 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 4: ninety percent? I think, all right, here's all day half 19 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: an inch or more. Here's what we got, okay, all right, 20 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 4: so it looks like ooh, ninety one percent chance Friday, 21 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 4: what I tell you, oh mama, yeah, and then uh 22 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 4: sixty percent tomorrow God, you gotta live. 23 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: The next two days. 24 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 5: Guys, Wait a minute, where the hell would that company. 25 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 4: Thirsdy Thursday, No, tomorrow's hot, eighty eight sun. Yeah, yeah, 26 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 4: you say safe, you say it's Thursday. 27 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 2: And then even it lingers into Saturday, I think, and 28 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: then Sundays nice. 29 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 4: So I'm showing three percent chance on Saturday, okay, seventy 30 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 4: one seventy eight, three percent chance on on Sunday. That's 31 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 4: kind of work like. But is this a rain all 32 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 4: day Friday? So here's your Friday description. Yes, it is cloudy, 33 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 4: a couple of showers and a heavy thunderstorm. Thunder Oh, 34 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 4: it's one of those thunderstorms can bring hail and damaging winds. 35 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 5: There we go part. 36 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: We can get thirty eight thousand roofers to come to 37 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: our neighborhood and ring our doorbell, which will be great. 38 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 4: There's this guy who comes through our ourt development. He 39 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 4: does it every year on a segway, and he's slinging 40 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 4: window washing on a segway. 41 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: I like that. 42 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 4: I love the intuition. I love the ambition of it. 43 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: That's why he's not coming to my on Friday. No, 44 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: not not not. 45 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 4: But he's got this segue Yeah, he's quite persistent. I 46 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 4: will say, how you doing good? 47 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: Good boys, getting a little bit better. Went to the 48 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: dock because Miss K was like, you've got to be 49 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,839 Speaker 2: one hundred percent before this baby comes. So I went, 50 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: so now I'm z packing it. But you know, what 51 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: do you have? You don't have just allergiesus. We have 52 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: no idea, nobody else. It's been three weeks, dude, Yeah, 53 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: that's supposed to be three weeks. Yeah. They said, may 54 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: there's something in there, and I've you know, coughed up 55 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: plenty of stuff that would indicate, yeah, something's going on. No, 56 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: I don't like that me either. 57 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 4: You get sturdy stock, you have your protocols. 58 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like I am sturdy in that 59 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: it's affected my life zero. Like I've done everything that 60 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: I want to do. I go to the gym, golf 61 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: and all that. But yeah, that's enough all. I don't 62 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: even know what feeling normal feels like anymore. It's been 63 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: so long, so long, you know, when you like, something's 64 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: bothering you or whatever, and then all of a sudden 65 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: it's gone, and then you forget that, like what it 66 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: was even Like I want to get to that point. Yeah, 67 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: that's like back pain. 68 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 4: That'll happen sometimes when it's so debilitating, and then all 69 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 4: of a sudden it goes away for treatments or whatever, 70 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden you wake up and 71 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,119 Speaker 4: you're like, what was that even like, and yeah, that sucked. 72 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 4: I remember that. Yeah, I definitely. 73 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: But I'm not thinking about it now. No, because it's gone. No, 74 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 2: it's not. Hell of a job. 75 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 4: Yesterday, twenty fifth annual Clear the Browns Foundation Golf outing 76 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 4: from Westwood Country Club. Did you find coach Deafanski. Did 77 00:04:59,120 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: you were able to finish? 78 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a few holes in the other It 79 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: was a lot of fun, great group of guys, and 80 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: we did well. They ended up in third. Okay, so 81 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: a couple of people made eagles off of my balls 82 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 2: on number three, which was good. I had two other 83 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: the Fancies group we know, and then I had two 84 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 2: other groups come up and say something to me. 85 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 4: That made like the putts huh, Yeah, that's awesome. That's 86 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 4: a good job out of them. It's also pretty amazing 87 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 4: that you were able to hold it. Yeah, to where 88 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 4: they could make put the putt close. 89 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: Well, I think one of them said it was real close. 90 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: So one must have hit into that front hill and 91 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 2: just trickled over, and if it did that, it could 92 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: have gotten real close. And then so the fancies was 93 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: right on the top of the hill and I think 94 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: one was a little bit in the. 95 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 4: Back, and then you get a nice putt and then 96 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 4: new way you go. 97 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: Who ended up winning? Do we have the winners? I 98 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: don't remember the name of them, but somebody was seventeen under, which. 99 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 4: Is seventeen I's pretty serious. 100 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: That is serious. Greg Newsom's group came in second at 101 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: fifteen under, so they slowed their pace quite a bit. 102 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 2: They're twelve through twelve and then they ended up at fifteen. 103 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 4: That one stick was carrying. Well, yeah, that's all operations. 104 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 4: And if Greg hits a couple of eagles and away 105 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 4: you go make some putts. 106 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: If you have one guy who's hitting the ball, well, yeah, 107 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 2: and the rush of the guy to make a few 108 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 2: if they can putt. Yeah, like I remember a few 109 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: years ago with the great doctor Mickley of Beechwood Dental. Yeah, 110 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: our combined handicap was probably very high. But I was 111 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: hit the ball really well that day, and I don't 112 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: I maybe only had to put twice all day because 113 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 2: they were rolling. Oh yeah, Mickley was the boss of 114 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 2: the Moss. Good job out of him. Yeah, you can 115 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 2: get your pearly whites and he can get you going. 116 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 4: On a green you need. Uh yeah, it was great. 117 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 4: So it was great to be out there and when 118 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 4: we had it was great. The VP of Doing Good Things, 119 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 4: Renee Harvey on and impactful good things that are impactful 120 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 4: and leaderships and such. I said this, sir, it's like 121 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 4: it's the there's like this and the food bank. I 122 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 4: think this is when Tony Brown is that who came 123 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 4: up to you were so excited to dardly contain yourself. 124 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 4: But this is when we said, like this and then 125 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 4: the food bank, which we do on the Thanksgiving. Those 126 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 4: are the two things that like the whole company's at, yeah, 127 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 4: like all year. Those are the two things that everybody's at. 128 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. And uh, well what Tony Brown comes over and 129 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: his hair is flowing in the way. He had like 130 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: a golden turtle on this beautiful necklace. He ad he 131 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: was not wearing shoes, smile from ear to ear. I mean, 132 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? I did see Renee later 133 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: and I was like sorry. I ended up standing up 134 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: in the middle of a very meaningful No, I'd act 135 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: full question and answer. No, I think it was all 136 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:28,559 Speaker 2: it was all a wind. 137 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 4: I mean that's the thing about about the The Outing Show. 138 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: You never know. 139 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 4: You never know what you're gonna get, you never know 140 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 4: what it's like a box of chocolates, you never know. 141 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 4: All of a sudden, you got Dylan Gabriel walking up, 142 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, Kenny Pickett's walking up, Doosome's walking up. 143 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: Nobody gets hurt. No, they against team I was surprised. 144 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: I thought they were gonna be more in the uh, 145 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: in the mix, because I saw them make quite a 146 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: few birdies as I even was driving around. But no, 147 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: they were not. I think they may have been like 148 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: Stefanski seemed won on a scorecard playoff to be third, 149 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,119 Speaker 2: So I think think they may have been in the mix. 150 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: I feel like they had to be. I mean, that's 151 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: that was a pretty good, very impressive. 152 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, they had a bunch of people who could go 153 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 4: and then Yeah, that's the key. You know that I'm 154 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 4: not good enough to ever be asked to do these 155 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: type of things, But I used to have to play 156 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 4: several of them in Columbus. I'd have to play a 157 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 4: couple of them a year and the one year I remember, 158 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 4: we were at OSU Scarlet and we had we had 159 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 4: Holly Saunders who was an intern of mine, and she 160 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 4: played golf at Michigan State's unfair. 161 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 2: It was a cheat code, of course, an absolute cheat code, 162 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: because she's playing up yeah, and she's hitting it two. 163 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 4: Seventy five, and it's like, well, okay, when that's your 164 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 4: when when she that the advantage was just that goes 165 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 4: back to your conversation last week about the tea box 166 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 4: advantage or like and I always think it should be 167 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 4: handicap advantage. Is it should be handicapped up would be 168 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 4: the way to do it, because there's that guy right there, 169 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 4: the great aby but like her the advantage she had, 170 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 4: and there's another guy in her group who is scratch, 171 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 4: and we played her ball pretty much all day because 172 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 4: of how good she was and where she got to 173 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 4: hit from. 174 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: So there was a play up. I was talking with 175 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 2: some of the day and one of the clubs does this, 176 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: and I think this is the perfect way to do it. 177 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 2: If your age plus handicap is above eighty, then you 178 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: can play from the white teas. Is that all the 179 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: way up? No, no, if your age plus handicap, So 180 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: a sixty year old who's a twenty one handicap can 181 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: play the white teas and the play the like up 182 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 2: more than that in an event it is a blue 183 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: tea event, you have to be ninety five or above. 184 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: If you want to go even further up than that. 185 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 4: Ninety five, So eighty or above is white yep, and 186 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 4: then ninety five and up. What's the max handicap? Is 187 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 4: it thirty? 188 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: Probably something like that. Yeah, that's I don't mind that. Yeah, 189 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 2: if you're sixty and twenty one, okay, I mean I 190 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 2: still think probably wouldn't be in the tournament. Yeah, but okay, yeah, 191 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: may be eighty five. I think eighties are fine. I'm 192 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 2: thinking about this like that eliminates somebody who's like sixty 193 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 2: twenty one five. Well, that's your problem. 194 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 4: I actually think eighty might be the wrong I don't 195 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 4: know that eighties the right now of it high enough. 196 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: I was going to go the other way. 197 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 4: I think it might be too low because there is 198 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 4: no scenario where a sixty year old with it that's 199 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 4: a twenty one who can be within how many shots 200 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 4: of you twenty. 201 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: Not from the blues, but maybe from the whites. 202 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 4: From the whites, it's probably a relatively I still don't 203 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 4: even think from the whites. 204 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't think that's so much of an advantage. 205 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: I think you are. 206 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 4: I think you beat anybody playing from the whites who's 207 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 4: a twenty one. I think you would beat them by 208 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 4: fifteen shots easy in your sleep. 209 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 2: One on one is so different, though, I agree with you, 210 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: And one on one. 211 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 4: I would have twenty shots even I don't even know 212 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 4: how different. 213 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, one on one? How do you guys do it? 214 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 4: On the two on two? Do you don't play best ball? 215 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 4: Do you play your own ball? 216 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: You play your So what you're referring to is a 217 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: scramble the best ball. Best ball means that you play 218 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 2: your own. You player, it's basically four ball. Yeah, you 219 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: play your own, your partner plays your own. You get 220 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: your best net score from you and your partner on 221 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 2: each you only record one. Yeah, okay, yep. I like playing. 222 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 2: Sometimes when you get where you have like big disparities, 223 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: you play high and low on each hole, so it's 224 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: best it's your low against their low, you're high against 225 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: their high. So there's really kind of two holes that 226 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: can be one on every hole. Yeah, that's a fun 227 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: way to do it. You see Scotti. Shuffler said they 228 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: made him play as a plus seven at his course, 229 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: and he'll play dudes who are thirteens, who are getting 230 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 2: twenty shots, and he says he still always wins. 231 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 4: Of course, of course he does. Dude, he's probably thrown 232 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 4: down at his course, at his home course, in member conditions. 233 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 4: I would imagine he's consistently at sixty two, sixty three, 234 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 4: sixty one, probably fifty eight fifty nine from time to time. 235 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 4: I'm sure from like be discussing. Yeah, I mean it's 236 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 4: it's an annihilation every I can imagine him not getting 237 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 4: a three on every par five, a three on every 238 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 4: part three five. 239 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: I bet he's in the mix. 240 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 4: I bet he's putting for three on for sure, he's 241 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 4: putting for three on every par five on his on 242 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 4: his own course. 243 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: Yes, every single one of them. 244 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 4: I would love to play, and I would say that 245 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 4: he probably expects to birdy every I mean everything else. 246 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love to play him at Walden your course, 247 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 2: and he'd never been getting twelve. I don't think I 248 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: would win, yeah, but I would like to think i'd 249 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: be competitive there. 250 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 4: Was a story once out at Bighorn in the desert 251 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 4: that Matt Kocher, who lives out in the desert and 252 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 4: if I interviewed, yes you did last week, were talking 253 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 4: about that he showed up and played as like a 254 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 4: guest of the of the owner and played and like 255 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 4: randomly went out on the mountain side where it's a 256 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 4: lot of target on the mountain, it's a lot of 257 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 4: elevation change, it's at a little bit like Wolf Creek, 258 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 4: like not quite that extreme, it's all over the place. 259 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 4: And he went out and never played at shot sixty one, 260 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 4: like I had no idea where it just went and 261 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 4: shot sixty one and like for a mortal person, like 262 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 4: that's that's just that's how great those guys are. 263 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 2: So yeah, I believe that he him as. 264 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 5: A plus even from the farthest what are the tips 265 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 5: at Walden. 266 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 2: Close to seven thousand, Yeah, so he's annihilating. Yeah, how 267 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 2: many right the greens would be he would probably be. 268 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 4: There'd be some frustration with that type of stuff in 269 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 4: terms of how it goes. 270 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, these are not just like if you hit it 271 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 2: right online, it's going to go in. You know. 272 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 4: That's it's funny I won't get into all of it. 273 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 4: It's not my story to tell. But the biggest complaint 274 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 4: typically of tour pros when they at the home course 275 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 4: is it's almost always the greens. 276 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: Of course. 277 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 4: That's the first thing they go to is you've got 278 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 4: to get these right. You got to get these right. 279 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 4: These are not right, You got to get them right. 280 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 4: And that's the thing. 281 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 2: You've got all the rest of the stuff that you 282 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 2: play a place where if you put it online, it 283 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 2: goes in. It's a very different experience, and those guys 284 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: put it online. Scheffler's last forty months, did you see this? No, 285 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: nineteen wins in his last forty months. That's more than 286 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: Jordan Spieth has in his entire career. In the last 287 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: forty months, he's got thirty six top three finishes. That's 288 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: more than Jason Day's entire career. He's got fifty two 289 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 2: top tens. That's more than Maxholms's entire career. Who Maximm 290 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: didn't eve qualify for the US Open. You see that 291 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: a three putted the last hole, had to go in 292 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: to a playoff, carried his own bags, he fired his caddy. Yeah, 293 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: did not make it. 294 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 4: No, it was down in Columbus. I want to say 295 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 4: it was at Kinsale. Huh, yeah, it used to be 296 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 4: my club down there. 297 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: Three major victories in the last forty months. That's more 298 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: than Ustin Johnson's career. And the last forty months he's 299 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: made one hundred and twenty one million dollars playing golf. 300 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: That is more than Phil Mickelson's career. 301 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 4: On the last one, he should every day when he 302 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 4: wakes up, he should send a text to Tiger Woods 303 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 4: and say thank you. Oh yeah, because Scotty Scheffler made 304 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 4: four million dollars to win the Memorial tournament. 305 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: Yes, he's if you just that's the one that's not 306 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: apples to apples the money. No, it's not in any way. 307 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 4: It's he made more money at the PGA Championship and 308 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 4: the Memorial than Tiger Woods made in all. But I 309 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 4: want to say two or three years of his career Tiger, 310 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 4: I think AXPGA Tour, Tiger all of that, he's made 311 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 4: more in two tournaments, and it's it's a Tiger. And 312 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 4: then the other part of its Live because what Live 313 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 4: did is it forced the PGA tour stops to up 314 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 4: their paychecks to get them to play and then and 315 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 4: and to get on a more level playing field. So 316 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 4: Live and Tiger. The one twenty one is the crazy one. 317 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 4: That's I mean, all of that's crazy. But some of this, 318 00:15:58,400 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 4: and I said this to you yesterday on the course, 319 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 4: some of it is too the libs split. And the 320 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 4: other part is the money is so big now, like, 321 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 4: is there the same incentive to grind that there was? 322 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 4: And I think the answer to that is it doesn't 323 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 4: appear that there is. 324 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: So I talked with Matt Coocher, who was twenty ten 325 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: money Lists winner of Varden Trophy winner, was the best 326 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 2: player in college when he was in college. He's won 327 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: nine times on tours and never won a major. When 328 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: the Memorial in twenty thirteen, and he's still out there grinding. 329 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: He's my age. Well, yeah, I bet he is. It's 330 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: pretty good life. It's a great license, but I mean 331 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: life like. 332 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 4: But I mean, like, is there the same I have 333 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 4: to win in order to make a lot of money? 334 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: No, there is. That's different. That's gone. 335 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 4: You gotta make cuts, but it's easier now that the 336 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 4: Memorial used to be one hundred and twenty five person field, 337 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 4: it's seventy. 338 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: They only cut twenty golfers. 339 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 6: I know. 340 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: I mean that's say the guy that made the person 341 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: that's grinding is like the Jacob Bridgeman kid that that 342 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: I got to talk to as well, and he was 343 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: in tenth and then he just did not finish the 344 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 2: last day and that so that for him though, that's 345 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 2: costing him money, Yeah for sure. 346 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 5: Matt Coocher career earnings per spot Track sixty one point 347 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 5: two million. Yeah, he's grinding, all right. 348 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 2: That's half of what our guys made in forty months. 349 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean he is. 350 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 7: He. 351 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 4: I just have a hard time putting it into perspective 352 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 4: in terms of the game is so different because of Live. 353 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: Here's a good way that got Will you look up? 354 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 2: In twenty ten, coach one more money than anybody on tour. Yeah, 355 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 2: how much money did he win in twenty ten? He 356 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: was the money leader in twenty ten. I bet it's 357 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: less than Scotty made for the more significant lesson. 358 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 5: In twenty ten, Matt Kucher on the PGA Tour led 359 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 5: all players in earnings with four point nine million. 360 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's won four million at the Memorial. 361 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, well I did this earlier that the I think 362 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 4: if his two he won three point whatever for PGA 363 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 4: four three point four and four, so seven point four. 364 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 4: I think there were only three or four years in 365 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 4: Tiger's career where here made more than that, and in 366 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 4: many of those years, obviously they're multiple majors, and obvious 367 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 4: he won Firestone all the time, He won Jax's tournament, 368 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 4: all the time Arnie's. Those were always big money. The 369 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,239 Speaker 4: Firestone won was a huge Bunny event and he won that. 370 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: Many of the days on liver makeing a hundred million 371 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 2: of you are guaranteed, No, I think that's total. Some 372 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 2: of them made like figures for Rum and those guys did. Yeah, 373 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 2: but now they're saying like that's not going to happen anymore. Yeah, 374 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 2: I don't know what's going to happen with that. I 375 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 2: don't know. It's a shame that part of it. I 376 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: read that d Chambeau's thinking of doing his whole in 377 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 2: one challenge over the White House, which would be incredible 378 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: if he does that. 379 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 4: He was really smart, he's great. He deserves a great 380 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 4: amount of credit for being while he was on the 381 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 4: tour one of the most unpopular players going to live 382 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 4: taking the money. I get it, absolutely, Playing in a 383 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 4: closet professionally, but then having the foresight to un stand 384 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 4: content online challenges all of that stuff to the point 385 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 4: now where like at a major he's probably the most popular, 386 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 4: and he's right there sim and a handful of other 387 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 4: guys that are most popular. 388 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 2: He's on a very short list. When we were double legal, 389 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: I was talking with an illuminary from our great partner, 390 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 2: Huntington Bank, and his son has the golf bug completely 391 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 2: and it's from watching d Schambeau videos that like made 392 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: him want to play golf my kids. 393 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 4: It's he's a big part of it. 394 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 2: He's a big part of it. It's very cool that 395 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 2: side of it. Yeah. 396 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean it's a the sport's in a 397 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 4: very interesting spot. I'll tell you the other thing that is, 398 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 4: you know, and we bring up Firestones. I guess it's 399 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 4: how you get into the type of conversation. But we 400 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 4: were talking about Firestone. It's like, I know, they have 401 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 4: this a senior PGA stop that's coming up, Yeah, the 402 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 4: colleague championship that's coming up in a couple of weeks. 403 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 4: I think they do a very good job with that. 404 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 4: But there's really nothing at all on the table for 405 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 4: this state to ever host a major again, and the 406 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 4: closest that we're going to get in our life time, 407 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 4: I'm afraid is going to be Oakmont in Pittsburgh. I 408 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 4: mean that's it, or Valhalla and Louisville. Like, we're never 409 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 4: going to see another one in this state. I just 410 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 4: believe it. There's no chance. There's no roadmap to get there. 411 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 2: Millfield is a place that should have. 412 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 4: But I mean, but Jack doesn't want to give it up, 413 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 4: and he doesn't want to. He doesn't want to give 414 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 4: it up. And you know, I think they would do 415 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 4: it if he asked, Like if he said this year 416 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 4: the Memorial Tournament is also the PGA Championship, Like would 417 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 4: would he would the PGA Tour do that? I don't know, 418 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 4: but I mean, like that's the type of thing it 419 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,479 Speaker 4: would take. And that's the course for it. That's the 420 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 4: stadium set up, that's the parking. They have everything that 421 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 4: you need there to be able to do it. And 422 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 4: the place is the ultimate test. The idea that a 423 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 4: tour stop wins at ten oh ten under is pretty crazy. 424 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 4: I mean, that's like a PGA championship type of score 425 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 4: to win it at ten hunder. I mean it and 426 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 4: if they ever did a US Open there, it would 427 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 4: be just borderline diabolical. 428 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: I think it would, which is silly, but I think 429 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,479 Speaker 2: he you know, let me go back to it. So 430 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 2: he was ten, but again he was so much better 431 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 2: than everybody else there were. He was ten, Griffin was six, 432 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 2: Straco was five, Taylor was four, Henley was two, McNeely 433 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 2: was two. So there were six golfers two under or better. 434 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: And then there were five golfers that were one under. Yeah, 435 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 2: that major, that's a major. There were fifteen golfers in 436 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 2: the entire field that were part or better. Yeah, fifteen. 437 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 4: No, I's so they've they've he did his last the 438 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 4: last you know, change to the course he's ever gonna 439 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 4: make in the last couple of years. Those are done, 440 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 4: like he's done tinkering with it. I'll believe that when 441 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 4: I see it. 442 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 5: By the way, especially if someone comes in and blows up. 443 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 2: Blown up. I don't think I think it's hard. I mean, 444 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 2: you've played it. 445 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 4: I think it's it's it's as hard as anything I've 446 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 4: played Oakmont. It's and I suck, but like they're on 447 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 4: the same plane. 448 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: Well, and they took all the trees out of Oakmont, 449 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: That just Mont. 450 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crazy that that's isn't that crazy when you 451 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 4: see the visuals of it. Have you seen it like 452 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 4: in the leading up to the US Open that it's 453 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 4: just not so hard? 454 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure there'd be rough. And Rory just went 455 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: out there. Rory and somebody else went out there and 456 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: played and they were both like way over and they 457 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: hit the ball great. But to me, so if you 458 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 2: remember there, what are you? Who's it for? How do 459 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 2: they make it so the members can play there? Well, 460 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 2: they'll as soon as it's over, they'll cut the rough. 461 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: I mean you can't play there right before, which is impossible. 462 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 2: It's impossible. 463 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, when they get those things cooked for that level, 464 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 4: like what they do. And I'm the only I've only 465 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 4: played Mierfield none two weeks or a week before the 466 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 4: tournament once and it was in the fall and it 467 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 4: was an entirely different exper. 468 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 2: What I would love to do is play it. And 469 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: I know people are able to do it because some 470 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 2: of the people we were down there with are were 471 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: doing it to play it on the Monday after. Yeah, 472 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 2: they leave the Sunday pins in and they let you 473 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 2: can play from the if you want to you can 474 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 2: play where they played. I would love to do that 475 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 2: and see if I could break ninety. That that's how 476 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: good they are. Yeah, that's the difference. Like that's what 477 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: people again, it's hard to you can't hit your head around, 478 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 2: Like I have as much of a chance of beating 479 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 2: Scotti Scheffler as a twenty handicap does a beating me. Yeah. 480 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 2: In fact, the twenty handicap probably is a better chance 481 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 2: of beating me than I do being Scotty Scheffler. Yeah, 482 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 2: it's it's different world. Even though we're quote unquote ten 483 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 2: shots apart. No not, no, we're not. That's the thing. 484 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 2: Like plus seven means that Walden he would from the 485 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: tips he should supposed to. I think it's like seventy 486 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: four point nine something like that. That means that he 487 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: should shoot mid to high sixties. And I'm with you, 488 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 2: I think you would annihilate that. 489 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 5: I think you would. 490 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they would. Anytime you hear of the 491 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 4: guys doing that, they annihilate. 492 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, they do. He's not gonna be in the fifties 493 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 2: consistently because a lot of courses course records are like 494 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 2: low sixties. 495 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 4: Vowler has ours and I want to say he's either 496 00:23:58,920 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 4: sixty one. 497 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: Or sixty at weds at Hudson. 498 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, he has the course record there, so it's ridiculous. 499 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 5: Yeah it is. 500 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 2: Uh, you playing in golf in Italy? 501 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 5: I did not. 502 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 2: How'd you do? 503 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 5: Yeah? 504 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 4: Pictures gorgeous, pictures were gorgeous. How long had this been 505 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 4: on the docket? Did it live up to what you 506 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 4: had hoped it would be? What was your favorite thing? 507 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 4: If you could do anything different? What would you do different? 508 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 4: It's a lot I threw at you, Gibba, Yeah, a 509 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 4: little bit. How long had it been in the oven 510 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 4: talking about it? 511 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 5: It started with a bottle of wine in a wine 512 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 5: shop in Florida. 513 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: Let's go like. 514 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 4: Nine years ago, in a decade in the making. 515 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 5: Yeah. Literally, it was one of those where like this 516 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 5: wine is amazing, Like it was a favorite wine shop 517 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 5: of ours and Punta Gorda, Okay, was down visiting the 518 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 5: in laws, like overcast day, can't go to the pool, 519 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 5: you know, whatever the case, Let's go drink about to 520 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 5: wine all day. Perfect And like they were explaining that 521 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 5: the region and where this was, and we were like, 522 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 5: you know, I've always wanted to go to Italy. My 523 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 5: wife more so wants to go to Greece, but she 524 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 5: was on board with the Italy experience, especially after the wine. 525 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 5: So we started putting it all together. Obviously, some things 526 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 5: happened with our families and COVID and stuff, and finally, 527 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 5: you know, in the past year, it was just one 528 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 5: of those things where it was like a lot has 529 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 5: gone on personally and everything, let's live, let's live, we 530 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 5: need to get this, we need to do this. So 531 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 5: we did all the planning ourselves. There was no travel agent, 532 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 5: there was no nice We've never believed in that. I know, 533 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 5: like you know, people every everybody vacations differently, you know, yeah, 534 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 5: people that just want to go see all the sights 535 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 5: and they want to go see all. We did. We 536 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 5: saw what we wanted to see. But a lot of 537 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 5: it was like we're we're walking around alleys in Rome 538 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 5: on Friday night the first time there and having wine 539 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 5: with the owners of bars and restaurants, just hanging out. 540 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 5: You know. We we knew that we wanted to I mean, 541 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 5: we wanted to see a lot more. There was clearly, 542 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 5: I mean, you could go to Italy and you could 543 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 5: be there for two or three weeks and still probably 544 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 5: probably not see everything right, you know, I wanted to 545 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 5: get to Venice. We couldn't get to Venice, like going 546 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 5: all the way over to that side, or going south 547 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 5: into Sicily, Like it's gonna have to wait maybe another time, maybe, 548 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 5: who knows. So we just kind of looked at the 549 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 5: one area. We were like, all right, we're going to 550 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 5: fly into Rome and then gonna spend a few days 551 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 5: in Rome, gonna kind of rapid fire through things. We 552 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 5: knew what we want to do. High speed train up 553 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 5: to Florence. 554 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: How great are the trains? 555 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 5: The trains, the whole train systems amazing, Like that's my 556 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 5: daughter lived on that when she was over there. Yeah, 557 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 5: you know, every time. 558 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 2: She's past or whatever. I don't that's called that anymore. 559 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 4: What makes them so great is great So by one time, 560 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 4: the schedules perfect and they're awesome to be in and 561 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 4: it's beautiful. 562 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 5: So I can tell you this, every train station in 563 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 5: Europe you walk in, there's nowhere to sit. There's no 564 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 5: there's restaurant, there's like food places, there's you can buy 565 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 5: clothes and all this other stuff, but there's nowhere to sit. 566 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 5: And I think part of that is they don't want 567 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 5: vagrants sleeping in there or anything. Keep the stations are clean. 568 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 5: But you come in. You can't just walk to your platform, 569 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 5: so you're watching the board and the board updates that. 570 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 5: Basically you get your platform assignment twenty minutes out, all right, 571 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 5: at fifteen minutes out, you like, if you try to 572 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 5: swipe your passport or your ticket usually it's your passport, 573 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 5: and then you show your ticket on the train, they 574 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,479 Speaker 5: will not let you in because it's not time. Like 575 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 5: it is specifically set up. So like you go to 576 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 5: your platform, you show up at the train station twenty 577 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 5: minutes before your train. At fifteen, you go to your platform, 578 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 5: you get on the train and you go. There's no way, 579 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 5: pretty efficient, and that's at every train station in Italy. 580 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 4: And that would they'd have a big problem. That would 581 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 4: really you know, all these folks who get in line 582 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 4: at airport gates forty minutes before the flight. 583 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 5: Is oh, getting funny. You know who the Americans are 584 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 5: in the Italian trata. 585 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 4: Yes, we're standing waiting one million person Please don't take 586 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 4: our spots. Yeah, funny, We've been programmed to that, like 587 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 4: we're so terrified that there's not gonna be enough overhead 588 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 4: or our seats or somehow out there. 589 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 2: That we have to race to get on a plane. 590 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 5: I I was that person when I first started dating 591 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 5: my w We are now at the point, my wife 592 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 5: and I where we are literally usually the last two 593 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 5: people on the They're like they're looking at us, like 594 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 5: are you gonna get on? And we're like, well, is 595 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 5: everybody else on? Like I don't want to sit in 596 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 5: my seat for an hour and wait for people to 597 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 5: get on the plane. 598 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 2: If you don't have a sizeable carry on that you 599 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: need to get up, I will. I will always be 600 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 2: the last person. 601 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 5: On the plane. 602 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: What what's on the plane for? 603 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't, so you get on the train. The 604 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 5: best things about the trains like high speed train. At 605 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 5: one point, I mean it tells you you're doing one 606 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 5: hundred and sixty miles an hour. 607 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: One sixty one sixty, oh mama. 608 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 5: And I can get from Rome to Florence in ninety minutes, 609 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 5: oh jeez, driving it three and a half hours. 610 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 2: And it's so smooth too, yeah, just whipping. 611 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's smooth. Some snacks, cocktail if you like yourself. Yeah, 612 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 5: it's easy to get around. You know. You get up 613 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 5: into Florence, went and saw the statue of David. Let's 614 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 5: go did a little cooking class. 615 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 2: There you go, you know what'd you cook? 616 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 5: We did ravioli and we did pasta. I can't remember 617 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 5: the name of the pasta off the top of my 618 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 5: head pad but literally, like you walk in. You walk 619 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 5: into this restaurant in an in a side street in Florence, Italy, 620 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 5: and there's a table set up in the back and 621 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 5: there's twelve of you and literally it's like, here's a bat, 622 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 5: here's a thing of eggs here, Like you're you're literally 623 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 5: making everything. Yeah, and the guy's like yelling at you 624 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 5: and like, yes, chef, try not to screw it all up. 625 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 5: And he's got assistant. But you're having fun. Like the 626 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 5: mine starts flowing and super cool. So we we Florence 627 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 5: was a quick trip. I wanted to see the statue 628 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 5: of David. I wanted to see a couple of things there. 629 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 5: But like, we walked around the city. We may or 630 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 5: may not have snuck into one of the best most 631 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 5: artistic churches I've ever seen in the world. That's pretty cool. Uh, 632 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 5: walked around the city at night, just explored and then 633 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 5: Monday rented a car in Florence. I will tell you this, 634 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 5: don't rent a car in a big city period. 635 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 2: The roads are so narrow right in certain spots. 636 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 5: And yeah, I had moments where I thought it was 637 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 5: going to be a TikTok sensation and get the car 638 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 5: like stuck. Yeah, you don't because they're that narrow, like 639 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 5: you can reach out and touch the wall. 640 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 4: Oh, like roads in this in the city a town, 641 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 4: the roads were built for walking. 642 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 5: In any way, and God forbid, you go down the 643 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 5: street and someone's coming at you, and then you have 644 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 5: to back up down the street. So and then we drove. 645 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 5: We drove to the region Monte Puliano, where's it literally 646 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 5: is a town of six hundred people. It's it's on 647 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 5: the top of a mountain two thousand feet above. It's 648 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 5: a walled fortress, six hundred people. My wife found an 649 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 5: Airbnb inside. 650 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 2: It is that in like a bruiso. 651 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 5: Uh, it's close to a bruiso, probably thirty minutes. And 652 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 5: literally that was the only moment where I was driving 653 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 5: and I'm like, this is such an awful idea. Like 654 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 5: I'm going straight up the hill. I'm like zipping around 655 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 5: these like streets. People are looking at me like I 656 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,239 Speaker 5: don't think the car is supposed to be in this 657 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 5: zone because there are certain zones. 658 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 2: Do you have like a Fiat or something. What did 659 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 2: you have? 660 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 5: It was small enough to get you number one. I'm 661 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 5: not fitting in a small car. The Fiat is not 662 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 5: going to work for me. I wish I had a 663 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 5: small car. 664 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 4: That's what you need, right they get they have those 665 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 4: euro ones, those little tiny guys. 666 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I had a little bit bigger one. And 667 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 5: there were moments, but I mean we we airbnbid everything. 668 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 5: We were there Montly Puculiano. We went to a bunch 669 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 5: of wineries, like you go to the big corporate ones. Fine, 670 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 5: it's fine, but like the most fun we had we 671 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 5: ended up at about a husband and wife and their 672 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 5: son who's like twenty five and sat on the hillside, 673 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 5: high up overlooking everything, watching a thunderstorm come in, drinking 674 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 5: wine and like they were like, well, you're stuck here 675 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 5: because it's storming. You can't drive anywhere, so let's just 676 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 5: keep drinking and we're going to feed you a bunch 677 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 5: of stuff. 678 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 2: Like it Amen, unbelievable. 679 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 5: Everybody's nice until they get behind a wheel in Italy 680 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 5: and then they are lunatics and then from there. If 681 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 5: there's one thing I probably could have tweaked. They tell 682 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 5: you like, hey, let the trip breathe a little bit. 683 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 5: So we probably could have spent another day in Rome. 684 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 5: We could have spent another day. We could have cut 685 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 5: back one of the stops, yep. But we were just like, look, 686 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 5: we want to see all this stuff there. My wife 687 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 5: wanted to see the coast, so we drove an hour 688 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 5: and a half to the coast. We went to Marina 689 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 5: del Pisa, about twenty minutes away from the Leading Tower 690 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 5: and everything we were on the Mediterranean coast beautiful. Stated 691 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 5: at a resort for two days, like just had a 692 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 5: down day. Yeah, and it's not tour. A season actually 693 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 5: starts this week, so there was hardly anybody there. 694 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 2: That's great. 695 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 5: So we had five people like what can we get you? 696 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 5: What do you need? I'm like nothing, absolutely nothing. What 697 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 5: you think? And it took the train back into Rome 698 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 5: and flew out a trip. 699 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 2: What do you think of the Colosseum? 700 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 5: Colisseum was amazing. I if there's one thing you should 701 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 5: go inside and see, it's the Colisseum? 702 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 2: Is it was it weird to you? How like it 703 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 2: is big? But it's also not big. 704 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 5: Correct. It's the same thing with the leading tower Pisa. 705 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 5: My wife looked at it, she was like, is the 706 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 5: water tower in North Homestead just as big? 707 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 2: But it's not leading. 708 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 5: But it's not leading, it's not leaning, and it doesn't 709 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 5: have the artwork necessarily that you know, and the craftsmanship. 710 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 5: It's funny. 711 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 2: And you said, how many days were you Florence? Just one? 712 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 5: We got in Sunday morning at like eleven and we 713 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 5: left like Monday or Monday afternoon, so we weren't there 714 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:08,439 Speaker 5: very long. 715 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 2: Next time Florence Chiquita at the Amalfi Coast. 716 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 5: Well, the Amalfi Coast is south of Rome, south. Yeah, 717 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 5: so that was how many trips? 718 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 2: How many trips in Italy could you do? A lot? 719 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 2: You could do, several you could do. So you guys 720 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 2: should watch it by now that you're back on Disney. Plus, 721 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 2: Tucci's got another new Italy show. It's really good. 722 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's great and he's perfect for the shows. Yeah, 723 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 4: like it's his whole thing. The other thing that you 724 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,240 Speaker 4: should watch now is Rome on HBO. 725 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 2: Oh have you seen it? 726 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? 727 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 4: I didn't know if you've seen Rome a Titus Pool 728 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 4: and all that. 729 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 5: My father was an archaeologist. 730 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, so this is right. Yeah, like that's all 731 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 2: week long. 732 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 5: He's like, where are my photos? 733 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 2: Where where? 734 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 5: Like you're going Jones, I forgot about that. Yeah, so 735 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 5: he's yeah, I can't. He's static. You can't wait for 736 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 5: me to come over and like go through all three 737 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 5: hundred in my photos? Yes, that I took, But like 738 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 5: I would tell you this number one, do not wait 739 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 5: till your retired quote to go, because I mean we 740 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 5: walked fifteen to twenty thousand steps a day. Yeah. Oh yeah, 741 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 5: like and you're walking straight up, straight downhills. Like everybody 742 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 5: wants to go and they you know, go on vacations 743 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 5: when you're tired, go when you can physically do it. 744 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta go, you can. Did you go to 745 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 2: the Trevy Fountain Gibbe? 746 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 5: So this was another We went to the Trevie Fountain. 747 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 5: It's packed, Yep. I had done a little horn and research. 748 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 5: I found a hotel right across the street that overlooks 749 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 5: the Trevy Fountain. For twenty five euros of person, you 750 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 5: go up to a private bar that overlooks the Trevy Fountain. 751 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 5: Your first drink is free and you can sip wine 752 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 5: and hang out at the Trevy Fountain it out dealing 753 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 5: with the crowds. What I would I would tell you 754 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 5: this what the most expensive thing is getting over there. 755 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 5: But if you have points on your credit. 756 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 4: Card, yeah you could be good, which we did. 757 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 5: It was great. The cost of everything is insanely low. 758 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, Like the food is so good. 759 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 4: What is the best spoon or fork that went into 760 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 4: your mouth? 761 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 5: It was not the one NT bite. It was not 762 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 5: the one night that I thought I was taking my 763 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 5: wife to a fantastic seafood joint. And when you think seafood, 764 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 5: you think like a very nice seafood restaurant. Sure, so 765 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 5: very nice seafood restaurant until they brought me the entire 766 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 5: fish to deconstruct. 767 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:42,280 Speaker 4: Oh sure, I was like. 768 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 2: A salt crust. Was a salt crust, A little brasino. 769 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 5: It was a Brenzino. Yeah. And I was like, or 770 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 5: a sea bass where a lot of it's still there's 771 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 5: bones in it. And I'm like, I don't. 772 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 2: That's how they do it. It's their style. 773 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 5: I had a few pieces of pizza later that night. 774 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 5: I had to knock that one off. We went to 775 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 5: a restaurant in Monte Puciliano. 776 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 777 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 5: Uh and the uh it was late on our first 778 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 5: night getting there, and they were like, oh, you're Americans, 779 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 5: blah blah blah, like we love Americans, but we don't 780 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 5: see too many of you because everybody goes to like 781 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 5: Siena and they go to the other big places. The 782 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 5: chef wants to make you an offer, and the chef 783 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 5: was like, for you know, x euros, which again was 784 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 5: ridiculously cheap. He's like, I will take all the ingredients 785 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 5: that are left over from the day that have not 786 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 5: been used. I will create a four course meal with 787 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 5: the ingredients leftover. 788 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 2: That's fun. 789 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 5: You just have to eat it. That's the only thing 790 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 5: I'm gonna make it. You don't get to pick what 791 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 5: I bring you. Yeah, okay. And there was a risotto 792 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 5: with like a buffalo mozzarella on top and a few 793 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 5: other things and it just like it was like up, 794 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 5: I don't even sat on the mushroomers or on the 795 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 5: mushroom risotto and just melted in. That was exceptional. And 796 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 5: then like we went to it. We found an Italian 797 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 5: joint in Rome the night before we left, and it 798 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 5: was a joint I had to make up for the 799 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 5: fish joint the night before and it was owned by 800 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 5: a husband and wife and it was like a little 801 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 5: cafe but they handmake all their pasta and it was stupid. 802 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 2: So that's awesome. 803 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 5: Go go go to Europe. It's not everybody's like, well 804 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 5: pick pockets. Just be smart, like, don't act like a tourist, 805 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 5: don't act like an idiot. 806 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 2: Yeah you can. 807 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 4: We're surviving on the East and West side of Cleveland. 808 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,720 Speaker 4: We can handle anything. And I'd like to think that anything. 809 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 4: I was in pretty good shape going in, I think 810 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 4: will be more than fine. 811 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 5: But I totally would recommend it. And it's great. Do 812 00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 5: your thing. 813 00:39:59,080 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 814 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 4: Those are you Hot Topics Today presented by University Hospitals 815 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 4: Vicial Healthcare, partner of Your Cleveland Browns. 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This was yesterday the Cleveland Browns Foundation Golf 827 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 4: outing your head coach, Kevin Stefanski. 828 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 8: Okay, excited to be out here. 829 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 2: Obviously. 830 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 8: This is a signature event for our our Browns Foundation 831 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 8: and everything that d and Jimmy are doing in the community. 832 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 8: So this is an awesome day. Obviously, as you guys see, 833 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 8: great weather, So we're excited to be out here. Got 834 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 8: a bunch of players out here, all our coaches are 835 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 8: out here, so as you know, raising money for a 836 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 8: good cause. So special, special day, and then we'll get 837 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 8: back to work tomorrow. But with that, I'll take any. 838 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 5: Questions Kevin, when you see anything different at OTA's Wednesday 839 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 5: in terms of quarterback rotation. 840 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 8: Honestly, Tony, every day is different. Every day we're mixing 841 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 8: and matching, if you will, given guys different looks. I've 842 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 8: told you before, it's not going to be a twenty 843 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 8: five percent down the middle type thing. I guess down 844 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 8: to fourth, but we're trying to expose the guys to 845 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:28,839 Speaker 8: different things. 846 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 7: What have you learned about these guys, Kevin, net that 847 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 7: you've had here outside. 848 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've learned a lot, Jeff. 849 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 8: I think the big thing is, and we've talked about this, 850 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 8: this is an all encompassing evaluation. So we're we were 851 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 8: evaluating the guys during phase one, during Phase two, and 852 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 8: now finally phase three. You get to go against your 853 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,720 Speaker 8: defense in some settings where our quarterbacks and our offense 854 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 8: get to go against them in seven on seven and 855 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 8: some team drill. So all of that adds up to 856 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 8: reps for us to look at. And it's not just 857 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 8: looking at the result of a play. We're looking really 858 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 8: at everything with these guys, Kevin, for. 859 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 2: The quarterbacks and the offense as a whole. 860 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,439 Speaker 4: What should look better and be better this weekend next 861 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 4: as opposed to last week. 862 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 2: We're just an ass at way. 863 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say this. I think, as you guys know, 864 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 8: there's only so much you can do based on the rules, 865 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 8: the constraints that you have, whether it's seven on seven 866 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 8: a team, So we try not to look too much 867 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,399 Speaker 8: into the result, just black and white, if that makes sense, 868 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 8: because there's things that our defense isn't doing and things 869 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 8: that our offense isn't doing to gain advantages. 870 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 2: If that makes sense. 871 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,399 Speaker 8: So really it becomes are you doing what you're asking 872 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 8: you to do, are you using the proper technique? Are 873 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 8: your decisions sound? And then the accuracy of which you 874 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 8: throw it. So I'd say all of that adds up 875 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 8: to really good work for our guys. And this is 876 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 8: definitely part of learning how to get ready to play 877 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 8: a game too, because as much as we're just working drills, 878 00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,919 Speaker 8: ultimately you're also getting ready for September as well. 879 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 2: Kevin, maybe different are have you noticed just Shador and 880 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 2: Dylan specifically and just the one time. 881 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, those guys are doing great. They are both wired 882 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,760 Speaker 8: to get in early, get stay late, put in whatever 883 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 8: work is required. There's sponges in the meeting room, which 884 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 8: I think is really fun for me and my vantage point. 885 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,439 Speaker 8: I get to sit there and watch the two young 886 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 8: guys look over and there's Joe forty years old on 887 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,879 Speaker 8: Super Bowl. There's Kenny Pickett just going into year four, 888 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,879 Speaker 8: but first round draft pick that's been on a couple 889 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,840 Speaker 8: of teams, won a Super Bowl last year. There's Deshaun 890 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 8: had a ton of success in his career. They can 891 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 8: kind of feed off of all those guys. So that's 892 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 8: the thing I'm really it's fun for me to watch 893 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 8: them get better sometimes just by listening Kevin, how organ 894 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 8: is it. 895 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 9: For some of these young players that have come in here, 896 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 9: even guys that are maybe in their second or third year, 897 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 9: to really pay attention to how the older players approached 898 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 9: this time a year and as opposed to maybe expecting 899 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,320 Speaker 9: the older players to give the big speeches and things 900 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 9: like that. Just to have these young players, I guess, 901 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 9: follow the example. 902 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 5: Set like you really. 903 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's certainly something Darryl that I talk 904 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 8: about with our young players. You know, we often talk 905 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 8: about leadership, there's also followership and the ability to find 906 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 8: that guy that I want to follow, and sometimes it 907 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 8: can just be from observation. As you know, there's some 908 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 8: great leaders that don't say much, and that's okay. I 909 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 8: think if you find the right guy in your meeting 910 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 8: room and see how he handles himself in the meeting room, 911 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 8: see when he gets out on the field, what does 912 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 8: he do when he's out on the field. 913 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 2: How does he prepare? 914 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 8: I think all of that certainly you can get in 915 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 8: this time of year, but also that then goes to 916 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,919 Speaker 8: the season and as you get in your routine, really 917 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 8: attaching yourself to a vet. Those guys that end up 918 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 8: playing ten years in this league, that's simply not by accident. 919 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 2: Kevin, how early were you and Joel is that to 920 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 2: come back? 921 00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, very relieved. Obviously, I was hopeful Joel would be back. 922 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 8: He's been here with me every step of the way. 923 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 8: He's been a huge part of what we do on 924 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 8: the football field. He's a huge part of who we 925 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 8: are off the field. I think you know, it was 926 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 8: no small thing when we put that golf simulator. 927 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 5: In in Berea. I think that. 928 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 8: Certainly maybe tip the scales in our favor. But he's Yeah, 929 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 8: he's a pros pro. I think he's a future Hall 930 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,359 Speaker 8: of Famer. So I'm thrilled he's back. 931 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 5: Andrews said he keeps the value that draft Pickott just 932 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 5: said that you also met. 933 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 4: With him in the pre drat process. 934 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 10: What is it about him his quarterbacking that suits what 935 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 10: you could kind of do on offer? 936 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I say we meet with everybody, so I 937 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 8: bet you Kenny met with all thirty two teams. But 938 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 8: I like how Kenny's wired. He's a really tough kid. 939 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 8: When we traded for him, coach Mardozzi called me right 940 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 8: away and was thrilled because he just believes in who 941 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 8: the young man is and how he goes about his business. 942 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 8: He's a gym rat, He's another guy that works extremely 943 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,919 Speaker 8: hard at his craft. But we're excited about his skill set. 944 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 8: I'm excited about the things that he's been exposed to 945 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 8: in his career and his young career already. And then 946 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 8: you know, he's just got a like he's doing right now, 947 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 8: he's focusing on putting one good day in front on 948 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 8: top of another. 949 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 5: Kevin has should or taken some eleven on eleven rets 950 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 5: when we're not out there, and do you think that 951 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 5: we will see some of those on the landscape when 952 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 5: we do come out again. 953 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 8: Yes, And I would say there's a lot of work 954 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 8: that gets done when you guys aren't out there, believe 955 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 8: it or not. But even that's and I said that, 956 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 8: Mary Kay, even in a meeting or in I'll walk through, 957 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,840 Speaker 8: just our guys are getting exposed to a lot. I know, 958 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 8: the day on the golf course is probably fun and 959 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 8: obviously for a good cause, but how much do you 960 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 8: look forward to this having so much of the team 961 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,879 Speaker 8: getting together outside of the building. Yeah, it's a big 962 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 8: part of it. 963 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 2: Cam. 964 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 8: Just as you come together as a team, you want 965 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,399 Speaker 8: to spend time with each other, whether you're going out 966 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 8: to get dinner or lunch, or spending time over the 967 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,479 Speaker 8: weekend with each other. So this will be fun. Well, 968 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,720 Speaker 8: I'll make sure that whoever captures some of these swings, 969 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 8: I'll include them in the team meeting tomorrow. But the 970 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,399 Speaker 8: guys they enjoy, they enjoy being out together, and this 971 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 8: is we do have a few guys that enjoy the 972 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 8: game of golf, so you'll see a few of them. 973 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 8: They've they've been around town playing and you know this 974 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 8: is just another way for them to be around their teammates. 975 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,800 Speaker 5: Ken, you talk so much about the division. I was 976 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 5: wondering what you thought about the proposal. I know it 977 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 5: didn't pass, but to not you know, to recede when 978 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:28,800 Speaker 5: they come to the playoffs. 979 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,320 Speaker 2: Do you think that kind of takes away from the 980 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:32,240 Speaker 2: emphasis you'd. 981 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,399 Speaker 5: Like to put on the division. I do. 982 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,919 Speaker 8: I understand both sides of that argument, but I think 983 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 8: winning your division really should be the primary goal of 984 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 8: every team, and it should mean something where you get 985 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 8: to host a playoff game. I understand some of the 986 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 8: things that were brought up at the league meetings. We'll 987 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 8: see if that gets revisited next year, which I would 988 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,800 Speaker 8: assume it does. But we know our division, we know how. 989 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 5: Tough it is. 990 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,360 Speaker 8: We beat up on each other, and we feel like 991 00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 8: there should be something, some type of reward for that. 992 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,800 Speaker 5: Provides you to be to receive after the first round. 993 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 6: So you would still give your first if you're like 994 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 6: a nine and eighteen. 995 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, I would love to see a little bit more 996 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 8: of the information on that, Tony. I think that's something 997 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 8: that will come up next season and in the owners 998 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,439 Speaker 8: meetings and in the league meetings as they talk about 999 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 8: those things that those are the type of of discussions 1000 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 8: we have not had yet. I've seen that proposed, but 1001 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 8: we haven't. We have not discussed that one at length 1002 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 8: because we're on a golf practice. 1003 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 5: The other day. I saw a track man. 1004 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, if you guys had s what do you what 1005 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:33,240 Speaker 6: do you guys track. 1006 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 8: With the kickers? Use that just see that. What's really 1007 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 8: important about that one, Scott, is the height of the 1008 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 8: ball when it crosses a line of scrimmage. So you 1009 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 8: can kind of tell make sure that the ball. You 1010 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 8: can get a load of sleep as a kicker if 1011 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 8: you're just driving the ball and realizing that there's any 1012 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 8: guys like Miles Garrett put their hands up. At some point, 1013 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 8: it seems like a lot of conclusions were drawn or 1014 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 8: have been drawn about player things sort of already stand 1015 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 8: in the quarterback competition, based. 1016 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,400 Speaker 2: In part on one ota that was opened to. 1017 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 4: My question is is are those accurate possible evaluations. 1018 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,879 Speaker 8: That this Yeah, it's so I know in our day 1019 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,800 Speaker 8: and age, one clip or one day or one practice 1020 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 8: can be all that gets out there to the public. 1021 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,719 Speaker 8: I would tell you the guys are working extremely hard. 1022 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,880 Speaker 8: They're doing everything that we're asked to them. Uh, and 1023 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 8: we're very excited about all of our guys. I know 1024 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 8: a lot of attention goes to that quarterback room. I 1025 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 8: get it, that's the that's the most important position in football. 1026 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 8: But I'm really proud of all the guys for how 1027 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 8: hard they're working really throughout this offseason. 1028 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 9: Kevin, along those lines, you've you've told us not to 1029 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 9: read too much in anything. 1030 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 11: Fans hopefully trying to get that back too, but we. 1031 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 2: Know naturally that will happen. 1032 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 9: And along those lines, you talk about how this time 1033 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 9: of the year is maybe better suited for like the quarterbacks, 1034 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 9: the DB's and receiving. 1035 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 2: So as a whole, though, like, what is. 1036 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 5: The main thing, the main goal that you're hoping. 1037 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,319 Speaker 11: You need to get out of, like the. 1038 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 9: OTA setting versus something like mandatory mini camp or even 1039 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:02,279 Speaker 9: a training camp. 1040 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 8: Sure, I think that offseason program you're really building a foundation, 1041 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 8: and that's for the players. You're building a foundational understanding 1042 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 8: of scheme, You're building a foundation of the culture, like 1043 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 8: Cam was talking about earlier, just being around your teammates. 1044 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 8: So that's really what we're doing right now. When we 1045 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,680 Speaker 8: get to training camp, we'll build on top of that foundation. 1046 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 8: But so much of what we're doing right now is 1047 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 8: just making sure that the guys understand who we are, 1048 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 8: what it means when we say Cleveland Browns, what it 1049 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 8: means when we say offense, defense, special teams, how we play. 1050 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 8: Because you know, we're different than than the other teams 1051 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,359 Speaker 8: in our division, just like they're different than us. We 1052 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,319 Speaker 8: want to make sure that we have an identity that's 1053 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 8: unique to us. So a lot of that is building 1054 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 8: that foundation now so that when you get to training camp. 1055 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 2: You can build upon that. 1056 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 7: It seems like. 1057 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 8: You guys are out there tomorrow right oh see it 1058 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 8: Wednesday it seems like. 1059 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,919 Speaker 9: Those guys do a fairly good job of shutting out 1060 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,360 Speaker 9: that that external noise. 1061 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 7: I guess, like, why do you think that is the 1062 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 7: quarterback room specifically with Yeah. 1063 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 8: I think external noise is nothing new in pro sports 1064 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 8: and whatever the noise may be, and that's kind of 1065 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 8: our job. That's the fun part for me is I 1066 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 8: get to go into work and pull in and close 1067 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,839 Speaker 8: the door and get to work and not focus very 1068 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,560 Speaker 8: much on that. We understand that that exists. We understand 1069 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 8: that there's a great interest in our sport. That's what 1070 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 8: keeps us going is our fans level of interest in 1071 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 8: our sports. So I completely get that part, but it 1072 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,360 Speaker 8: doesn't factor. 1073 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 5: Into our day to day. 1074 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 8: We have a lot of work to do and and 1075 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,440 Speaker 8: don't really pay much attention to what's going on outside. 1076 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 4: All right, there you go, coach from the golf outing yesterday. 1077 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 4: Second hour of the program coming up next. We will 1078 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 4: kick it off with Dion Sanders and what he thought 1079 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 4: went wrong with Shador in the predapt draft process and 1080 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 4: how we will handle it from here. That's coming up next. 1081 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 4: Second hour of the program. Cleveland Browns Daily presented by 1082 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 4: bally Bet official sports movie partner Cleveland Browns on fifty ESPN. 1083 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:11,680 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily presented by Bally Bett, an official 1084 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,360 Speaker 1: sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. 1085 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,360 Speaker 5: On eight fifty esp and Cleveland. 1086 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 4: We've been trending in this way for a while in football, 1087 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 4: but it's it's definitely it's definitely crescendoing or reaching an apex, 1088 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 4: and I suppose they're still a little bit higher it 1089 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 4: could go, but it feels like we're there now and 1090 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,279 Speaker 4: we've been in the spot where college football has been 1091 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,759 Speaker 4: the second most popular sport in this country for about 1092 00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:57,240 Speaker 4: a decade. 1093 00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 2: Is kind of what it's been. 1094 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 4: It's kind of been that it's one of these things 1095 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 4: that it's one of those sports that truly is ascending 1096 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 4: and continues to year in and year out despite all 1097 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,280 Speaker 4: of the backward stuff that goes on behind the scenes. 1098 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 4: But one of the byproducts of that is that when 1099 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 4: the draft comes around, you get known commodities. Now, the 1100 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 4: known commodities part really goes back to like the late 1101 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 4: nineties and Peyton Manning, but I think Johnny was a 1102 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 4: massive part of it. I think he was one of 1103 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,840 Speaker 4: those things was a brand. He was known, He was 1104 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 4: a brand Bake was a brand for sure by the 1105 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 4: time we drafted Baker. I mean there's other guys that 1106 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 4: were too. Shadour Sanders, without question is a brand. He's 1107 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 4: been a brand since he went with his dad and 1108 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 4: Travis Hunter to Jackson State and then they went to 1109 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,799 Speaker 4: Colorado and did what they did there. We have known 1110 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 4: who Shudur Sanders is for a very long time, and 1111 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 4: so when he comes into a Browns quarterback room and 1112 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 4: he's a fifth round pick and he's there with Flacco 1113 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 4: and Pickett and Dylan Gabriel, all incredibly accomplished Super Bowl champion. 1114 00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,320 Speaker 4: In the terms of Flacco, he's the most famous probably 1115 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 4: to the to the masses, him and Flacco, but I 1116 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,920 Speaker 4: don't even he might even supersed Flacco in terms of 1117 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 4: around the country, just because of the cross section of humanity, 1118 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 4: like if you're not a if, like a young kid 1119 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 4: like I don't know. 1120 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,239 Speaker 2: If you know, no, because Flaco hasn't been a full 1121 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:23,840 Speaker 2: time starter, I don't think since twenty seventeen. Maybe, yeah, 1122 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,720 Speaker 2: it's been a minute. It's been a minute. So yeah, 1123 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 2: certainly for yeah, a wide swath of the demographic. 1124 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:31,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. 1125 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, for all the young folks. I mean, he's been 1126 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 4: a known guy for a while, and then you factor 1127 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 4: in all the social media following that. 1128 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,320 Speaker 2: I don't think Joe Flacco's set it out. No tiktoks, no. 1129 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 5: No. 1130 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 2: Last time over that quarterback for sixteen games in a 1131 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 2: season or was the starter for sixteen games was in 1132 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,799 Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. Since then, most of the start in the 1133 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 2: season was nine and twenty eighteen of Baltimore, eight and 1134 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen with Denver. Yeah. 1135 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 4: To that end, his draft process was front and center 1136 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 4: throughout the entire process, and him dropping to where he 1137 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:12,279 Speaker 4: dropped was surprising. We benefited very greatly for that. Dean 1138 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,880 Speaker 4: Sanders has been quiet on all of this. He was 1139 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 4: quiet throughout much of the process, other than when there 1140 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,080 Speaker 4: was a pro day of Colorado kind of. 1141 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 2: Stayed out of it. 1142 00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,799 Speaker 4: But he went on to Sante Samuel's podcast, Say what 1143 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,840 Speaker 4: needs to be said, and did give his view of 1144 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,759 Speaker 4: everything that happened in the pre draft meetings and some 1145 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,760 Speaker 4: of the conversations around Shador Here is coach Prime. 1146 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 11: You gotta understand, my kids are built for everything. They 1147 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 11: we've been We had two TV shows and then we 1148 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,239 Speaker 11: had shows in high school, were playing football, junior and 1149 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 11: senior year. So we've always been in front of the camera. 1150 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 11: So they know how to navigate, they know how to 1151 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,560 Speaker 11: handle themselves, and you're not gonna catch them in no 1152 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:51,960 Speaker 11: foolery and no mess. 1153 00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:53,759 Speaker 6: You're not gonna do that whatsoever. 1154 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,400 Speaker 11: So when you sit up there and say something like 1155 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 11: he went in a meeting unprepared, like dude Shador Sanders, 1156 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 11: who's had six different coordinators, who has still function and 1157 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,839 Speaker 11: went up, leveled up every time we brought somebody new 1158 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 11: end And you're gonna tell me every situation. You're gonna 1159 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,760 Speaker 11: tell me he had on headphones? Should doors? 1160 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,880 Speaker 6: Anybody know my son? I understand he's a professional. Like 1161 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:19,560 Speaker 6: he's gonna go. 1162 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 2: In to me with headphones on, Like, yo, you know 1163 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 2: what that tells me, coach? 1164 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 12: That tells me somebody was looking for something before they 1165 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 12: even came there. I was already looking for something, looking 1166 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,560 Speaker 12: for an issue pre plan, you know what I mean. 1167 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 12: But hey, bygones bygones hey man, we know you a doll, 1168 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 12: your kids, a dog, and dogs gonna always rise to 1169 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:40,080 Speaker 12: the top, you know what I mean. 1170 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 6: That's what I believe. 1171 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 5: You know what I mean? 1172 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,400 Speaker 12: There you go for real, but you be talking about 1173 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,919 Speaker 12: it did hurt man, coach. 1174 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,200 Speaker 2: When you're talking about it, hurt it hurt us. 1175 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:51,799 Speaker 8: It hurt me. 1176 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:53,840 Speaker 2: It's hurt coach. 1177 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 11: But you know, the Bible says God uses the foolish 1178 00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 11: things to confound the wise. 1179 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 6: So it was some foolish stuff that went on. 1180 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,920 Speaker 11: But you know what, that that gave them something that 1181 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 11: they needed. Like that gave them something that they said, 1182 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 11: I you know that, like that, like the edge that 1183 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,439 Speaker 11: Tom had, Like that edge that gave them that edge 1184 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,160 Speaker 11: that you had. It gave them the edge that I have. 1185 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 11: You know, we say we're gonna be that we want 1186 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 11: to be. We had to prove that they gave them 1187 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 11: the edge that they needed. 1188 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 6: Both of them. 1189 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,000 Speaker 12: You already used to adversities. Like I said, come from 1190 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 12: Jackson State in Colorado. So he built for that stuff. 1191 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 6: We built for them. 1192 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 4: This from Florio and we're gonna have some thoughts on 1193 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 4: that in a second. This from Florio on on the 1194 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 4: process and all of that, And we've talked about a 1195 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,240 Speaker 4: lot of the stuff before. Although Sanders didn't make a 1196 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 4: power play to avoid a bad team, he treated the 1197 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 4: process as if he was being recruited, not interviewed, and 1198 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 4: he had no time. He had no one to tell 1199 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 4: him that what he was doing was far more harm 1200 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 4: than good. 1201 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:49,760 Speaker 5: Uh. 1202 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 4: At that point, I do think that it's he's a 1203 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,960 Speaker 4: little bit of a he's a byproduct of his own fame, 1204 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,680 Speaker 4: and that I do think it's one of those rare 1205 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 4: instances where the pre draft process obviously did not go 1206 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 4: and I mean, this is the whole league. It's a 1207 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 4: fifth round pick, like, this is what it is. But 1208 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 4: I also think that it's one of those instances where 1209 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 4: if you just watched him play and he wasn't who 1210 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 4: he is, there's no way he lasts to. 1211 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 2: The fifth round. 1212 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 4: No, and that's what we've seen when he's been out here. 1213 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,080 Speaker 4: He does not look like a fifth round pick in anyway. 1214 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 2: No, he is an incredibly accurate throw of the ball. 1215 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 2: He's just naturally accurate. It's one of those skills that 1216 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,360 Speaker 2: he possesses. He can throw the football where he wants 1217 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 2: to throw the football, and he's great at layering and throws. 1218 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 2: His arm is plenty strong. You had a throw last 1219 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,040 Speaker 2: Friday to Kishan Johnson that was fifty five yards in 1220 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 2: the air. That was a drop in the bucket. I mean, 1221 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,080 Speaker 2: he's shown that he has an NFL arm those questions 1222 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 2: should be gone. What I think everybody needs to understand 1223 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 2: with Shador Sanders is that he did go in the 1224 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 2: fifth round for a reason, and it is a reason 1225 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:03,640 Speaker 2: that is no found on tape. Yeah, because anybody, and 1226 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:07,080 Speaker 2: we talked to all of them who just watches the tape. First, 1227 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,720 Speaker 2: you had people who thought he was the best quarterback 1228 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 2: in this class who are very well respected. You had 1229 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 2: people who thought he was the s and everybody else 1230 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,480 Speaker 2: pretty much he's the second best quarterback in this class. 1231 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 2: And those who even were his quote unquote detractors, And 1232 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 2: I would say detractors, but those who are more critical 1233 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:24,640 Speaker 2: of him on film, thank Greg co sal for example, 1234 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,760 Speaker 2: or Dane. They still had him in early second. 1235 00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,480 Speaker 4: Round thirty five overall, I think on Dane right, so 1236 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:31,640 Speaker 4: like overall player. 1237 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 2: So then it was more of well you wouldn't take him, 1238 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 2: you know in Dane's mind, like I'm not taking him 1239 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 2: second overall. But where we took Carson Sweessinger. Absolutely, Yeah, 1240 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 2: he goes into the throne. And I know a lot 1241 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 2: of people are on league who thought for sure he 1242 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:50,880 Speaker 2: was going to go in the second round, even as 1243 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 2: it was unfolding, thought he was going to go on 1244 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 2: in the second round. So I think there's a couple things. 1245 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 2: Number One, I think you're they're fair or not. And 1246 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,160 Speaker 2: I would say in some ways, I think it's probably unfair. 1247 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:07,680 Speaker 2: But this interview, for example, is something that you're not 1248 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 2: getting with any other quarterback in this draft. No, probably 1249 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:19,720 Speaker 2: any other quarterback in many drafts. No, I don't know 1250 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:21,800 Speaker 2: the last quarterreck who either was a head coach of 1251 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,280 Speaker 2: a college program and also their son's coach, and who 1252 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,480 Speaker 2: was an NFL Hall of Famer, and who has access 1253 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:27,960 Speaker 2: to the media and speaks in front of the media 1254 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:29,200 Speaker 2: all the time. 1255 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 4: I mean, it's Manning's I mean that's an arch wasn't 1256 01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:33,760 Speaker 4: coaching Tennessee. 1257 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:37,960 Speaker 2: Right, So that hat that part of it has that 1258 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 2: played some role. And then I think there's another part 1259 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:45,160 Speaker 2: of it that you wonder And the quote went on. 1260 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,000 Speaker 2: So there's time in place to be nonchalant the pre 1261 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,560 Speaker 2: draft process, isn't it team to want players who approach 1262 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,440 Speaker 2: things with a business like demeanor when it comes to quarterback. 1263 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 2: They want to be shown up early, staying late, and 1264 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,640 Speaker 2: doing whatever it takes to me be successful. He's done 1265 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,320 Speaker 2: that since he's been here. I can tell you that 1266 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,000 Speaker 2: one he has done that. He We talked yesterday at 1267 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:03,560 Speaker 2: the golf outing did like a rookie panel with Andrew 1268 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 2: Hawkins and was talking about, you know how he loves 1269 01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,480 Speaker 2: that he gets to be around Joe Flacco and learned 1270 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,200 Speaker 2: from Joe. Like he was like, what's the craziest thing. 1271 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 2: So he's like, dude, I'm in a room with Joe Flacco. 1272 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:19,720 Speaker 2: So that means something to you know, to Shadore, I 1273 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 2: think that there is he has played a lot of football. 1274 01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:26,920 Speaker 2: He did have you know, somebody who was an NFL 1275 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,760 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator and NFL head coach as his offensive coordinator 1276 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 2: in the final, the final offense cordinator, Pat Schrmer. But 1277 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:37,240 Speaker 2: I think that his step up in terms of let's 1278 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 2: call it calling plays in the huddle, being under center, 1279 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,280 Speaker 2: some of the things that maybe he's going to be 1280 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,560 Speaker 2: asked to do at this level with all the checks 1281 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,280 Speaker 2: that happened at the line of scrimmage, with all of 1282 01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,200 Speaker 2: the pre snap recognition that's got to happen, and then 1283 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,040 Speaker 2: post nap, especially if you're turning your back to defense, 1284 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,920 Speaker 2: I think that there are things to learning the position 1285 01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 2: that maybe he is certainly behind Kenny Pickett and Joe Flacco, 1286 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:03,400 Speaker 2: and Flack was a veteran, veteran pickets you know, started 1287 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,320 Speaker 2: twenty five games in the National Football League, and then 1288 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,960 Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel who played a lot more at all major 1289 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,720 Speaker 2: college programs. I think people sometimes forget that, Yes, he 1290 01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,360 Speaker 2: turned it around to Jackson State and he turned it 1291 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,640 Speaker 2: around here, and I do think that he has probably 1292 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,640 Speaker 2: the highest ceiling. I think though, that his his on 1293 01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 2: ramp is a little longer than that of Dylan Gabriels 1294 01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 2: to get ready for all the things that it takes 1295 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,080 Speaker 2: to be an NFL quarterback. Now I'm talking about talent. 1296 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,680 Speaker 2: Take talent out of it. He is supremely talented, yep. 1297 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,880 Speaker 2: So I think that I think that people need to 1298 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:37,440 Speaker 2: have And there's a lot of people kind of I 1299 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 2: think in the national media who are really like rushing 1300 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:42,960 Speaker 2: Shador and I can see it. Sounds like I've done 1301 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,400 Speaker 2: a couple of national interviews where they asked me about 1302 01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,720 Speaker 2: Shador as though he's the only quarterback here, and I 1303 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,640 Speaker 2: talk about his ballplacement and that it is elite, but 1304 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,480 Speaker 2: that you know, he's still very much work in progress 1305 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:56,680 Speaker 2: as an NFL quarterback. So I think that that's something 1306 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,200 Speaker 2: that people need to have some patience with that, and 1307 01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 2: you look at the schedule again, I also think that 1308 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,480 Speaker 2: you never know who could win the job, and if 1309 01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,800 Speaker 2: somebody is just the best, then they will start week 1310 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,760 Speaker 2: one despite how difficult that opening would be for their career. 1311 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,160 Speaker 2: But you know, you look at Kenny Pickett, you look 1312 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,560 Speaker 2: at Joe Flacco, I still think you know, Picket's going 1313 01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 2: to get every opportunity. Flacco's kind of the break glass, 1314 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,520 Speaker 2: but still could be that much better. And then you've 1315 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,320 Speaker 2: got Gabriel and you have got you know, Shador Sanders. 1316 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:31,720 Speaker 2: Excuse me, I believe as we progress through this offseason, 1317 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,760 Speaker 2: what's going to be interesting to watch is how the 1318 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,840 Speaker 2: reps change and what opportunities should do or can't earn 1319 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,880 Speaker 2: for himself, because that'll tell you about things that you 1320 01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:42,440 Speaker 2: can't see when you come here and you see him. 1321 01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,280 Speaker 2: He is going to be very impressive throwing the football. 1322 01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,160 Speaker 2: So it's going to be much more to me about 1323 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:50,200 Speaker 2: whiteboard understanding offensive concepts, understanding defensive concepts, being able to 1324 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,200 Speaker 2: be in the huddle, be confident, get the plays out. 1325 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,600 Speaker 2: Doing things that he wasn't right or wrong. It's just 1326 01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,000 Speaker 2: the way the college football's done now. He wasn't asked for. 1327 01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,840 Speaker 2: He was not asked to do those things. He was 1328 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,200 Speaker 2: he has to do a certain set of things there 1329 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:06,880 Speaker 2: and guess what he did them? Incredibly well, yeah, incredibly well. 1330 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:11,920 Speaker 2: So I think that his ceiling might be the highest, 1331 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,720 Speaker 2: but it might take longer for him to reach his 1332 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,200 Speaker 2: ceiling than it would for you know, somebody who I 1333 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,440 Speaker 2: would calls more of like a floor riser, which is 1334 01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,280 Speaker 2: like Kenny Picky's going to raise the floor of what 1335 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,240 Speaker 2: your quarterback position is going to give you. Dyllan Gabriel's 1336 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,160 Speaker 2: that way when with some and they both have upside 1337 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 2: on top of that. But I think right now you're 1338 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:32,080 Speaker 2: looking at a guy in Shador that has everything you want, 1339 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,760 Speaker 2: but needs to understand the nuances of the position at 1340 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:39,480 Speaker 2: this level more so than you know Gabriel, who started 1341 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,800 Speaker 2: more games in college and was that major programs Like 1342 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,720 Speaker 2: when Dion went to Colorado, Yes it's Colorado, Yes you 1343 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,640 Speaker 2: know the history of it. That was not a major 1344 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:47,560 Speaker 2: program at that moment. 1345 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,920 Speaker 4: It was the worst Power five job in America when 1346 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,000 Speaker 4: he took it. It was the roster was in the 1347 01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 4: worst spot of any Power five job in America. There 1348 01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:59,000 Speaker 4: are issues at Colorado in terms of recruiting in terms 1349 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,520 Speaker 4: of its location, it's beautiful, stunning, but the proximity to 1350 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:06,640 Speaker 4: talent isn't there. And and and it was at the 1351 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,000 Speaker 4: time when he took the job, the worst Power five job. 1352 01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,520 Speaker 4: And then they were spot and they made it more 1353 01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:15,400 Speaker 4: than respectable. They were the most watched team year one 1354 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,160 Speaker 4: in the first month of the season, and in year 1355 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,480 Speaker 4: two they were on the precipice of the playoff and 1356 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,240 Speaker 4: they had a late loss I want to say at 1357 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,680 Speaker 4: Kansas that kept him out. Otherwise they would have been 1358 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,760 Speaker 4: playing for a chance to play in the in the 1359 01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,200 Speaker 4: in the College Football Playoff in year two and. 1360 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,600 Speaker 2: Would have been the most talent division team in that 1361 01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:33,040 Speaker 2: College Football Playoff by far. 1362 01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:34,320 Speaker 5: But by far. 1363 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,520 Speaker 4: There are lines of scrimmage. As we said, they were 1364 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,800 Speaker 4: indifferent to the run game, like I mean, it just 1365 01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,479 Speaker 4: couldn't it was it was and it was trapp Yeah, 1366 01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:46,120 Speaker 4: I mean they had receivers, Horns are really good player 1367 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 4: but like, yeah, they just didn't know. I mean, it's 1368 01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,200 Speaker 4: even when you bring in fifty guys as they did 1369 01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,200 Speaker 4: in year one, like to get it to all work 1370 01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,480 Speaker 4: and to go, it's just it's really tough. It's an 1371 01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:57,480 Speaker 4: incredible turnaround. 1372 01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,280 Speaker 2: That they've done and he was at the middle of it. 1373 01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,040 Speaker 2: The thing, as I said, to watch with Shador to 1374 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,920 Speaker 2: know how he's progressing. It's gonna be about how reps 1375 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 2: change and then what opportunities he gets and how he 1376 01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:11,320 Speaker 2: performs when he's now playing against the better competition on 1377 01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,640 Speaker 2: the other side of the ball. Yeah, there's no doubt 1378 01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:17,120 Speaker 2: he can throw the ball, none, Noill that will be 1379 01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,120 Speaker 2: as apparent as anything. So it's going to be the 1380 01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,880 Speaker 2: other stuff that he's got to get. He's got to play. 1381 01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:24,560 Speaker 2: He's playing a little bit of catch up I think 1382 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,400 Speaker 2: in some of those departments, so that it's not just 1383 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:29,720 Speaker 2: what you see in seven on seven. Now, that's part 1384 01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:31,560 Speaker 2: of it, being able to understand what the defense is doing, 1385 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,840 Speaker 2: understand what concept's going to beat the defense and where, 1386 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,080 Speaker 2: and then delivering that football. And he's going to be very, 1387 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,320 Speaker 2: very good at that. It's going to be all of 1388 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 2: the other things that go into playing the position, and 1389 01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,480 Speaker 2: when he masters those, I think the Browns are going 1390 01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,680 Speaker 2: to have an absolute steal on their hands. So I 1391 01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:46,480 Speaker 2: thought it was interesting. 1392 01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:52,320 Speaker 4: We had we had Dylan on yesterday and he spoke 1393 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,600 Speaker 4: he said something Kenda said it in passing, but it 1394 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:57,520 Speaker 4: resonated with me, but we had so much going on 1395 01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,680 Speaker 4: that I didn't I didn't press him on it, but 1396 01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:03,840 Speaker 4: he he said something that hit home, which was talking 1397 01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,120 Speaker 4: about headset communication in their helmets. 1398 01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,560 Speaker 2: Last year was the first year for that. It was 1399 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:10,440 Speaker 2: the first. 1400 01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,160 Speaker 4: Year that you weren't looking over at the sideline and 1401 01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:17,320 Speaker 4: deciphering whiteboard signs for the play outrage, which is absurd. 1402 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,439 Speaker 4: But they didn't approve until April of twenty twenty four. 1403 01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:20,919 Speaker 5: Yep. 1404 01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,920 Speaker 4: And last year was the first year where there was 1405 01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:27,600 Speaker 4: headset communication in the helmet. So at the very least, 1406 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,400 Speaker 4: Shadore and Dylan got one year of that, and that's 1407 01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:35,680 Speaker 4: a start. That's a start think about. And this all 1408 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,680 Speaker 4: kind of came and ser was part of this. Quinn 1409 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:42,600 Speaker 4: Ewers was a part of this, and then Jackson Dart 1410 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,240 Speaker 4: at ole Miss was kind of at the center of 1411 01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:45,560 Speaker 4: this when he did the thing with Gruden. We just 1412 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,240 Speaker 4: did like the clap and he's been clapping for four 1413 01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 4: years and he's like, yeah, that's every snap was either 1414 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,400 Speaker 4: a clap or it'st clap. There is okay, there's none 1415 01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,160 Speaker 4: of that, and most teams do it. Most you Ohio 1416 01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,800 Speaker 4: State under Urban did it all the time we got 1417 01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:01,560 Speaker 4: Braxton did it all the time, but you're starting to 1418 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,160 Speaker 4: see programs go away from that, and I do think 1419 01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:08,160 Speaker 4: it will make that transition even smoother, and it can 1420 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,000 Speaker 4: be really smooth now already. I mean, if you are 1421 01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:14,760 Speaker 4: elite like Jaden Daniels was, and you can pop in. 1422 01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:16,760 Speaker 4: But the other thing that Daniels has in common and 1423 01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:21,759 Speaker 4: honestly has in common with Gabriel is different systems, different coaches. 1424 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,439 Speaker 4: Right me started off at Arizona State and ends up 1425 01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,759 Speaker 4: at LSU with Brian Kelly, and you think of Gabriel 1426 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,320 Speaker 4: and the places he is. I thought that was interesting. 1427 01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,679 Speaker 4: He talked about really flushing it every year and starting over. 1428 01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,160 Speaker 4: She'd always had a bunch of coordinators. They made a 1429 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:40,599 Speaker 4: live coordinator change in year one Sean Lewis to Pat Shermer. 1430 01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,200 Speaker 4: Then he had Shermer last year, but that was different verbiage, 1431 01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,000 Speaker 4: it's different everything, So you have to learn that stuff 1432 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,960 Speaker 4: pretty quickly. So I think all of those things will 1433 01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:49,120 Speaker 4: help him tremendously. 1434 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be fun to It is going to 1435 01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,320 Speaker 2: be very very fun to watch. I know again, this team, 1436 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,360 Speaker 2: they love Joe Flacco. They are very high on Kenny Pickett, 1437 01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,080 Speaker 2: and think that this is the right offense for him 1438 01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:00,920 Speaker 2: to be operating in at the highest level that he 1439 01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,879 Speaker 2: can in the National Football League. They love Dylan Gabriel 1440 01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,840 Speaker 2: and then Shador is so talented as a thrower of 1441 01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,360 Speaker 2: the football that they are excited to see, you know, 1442 01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:14,360 Speaker 2: when he can get his full quarterback base on par 1443 01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,519 Speaker 2: with everybody else. What does that look like? And I 1444 01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,719 Speaker 2: think that's the story of the twenty twenty five Cleveland Browns. 1445 01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,400 Speaker 5: Honestly, God, Kevin has that cut if you want from 1446 01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:22,160 Speaker 5: Dylan Gabriel. 1447 01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,240 Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, go ahead, go ahead, kah. 1448 01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,920 Speaker 7: Initially it's you're piecing it together and words don't really 1449 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,960 Speaker 7: mean much, but now, you know, as we kind of 1450 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,160 Speaker 7: dive into it, now it's a lot easier, you know, 1451 01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:34,559 Speaker 7: just knowing what these words mean. 1452 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,280 Speaker 2: And have you done much in the huddle before? 1453 01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,320 Speaker 7: I have I have got And you know, in college, 1454 01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:43,000 Speaker 7: it honestly helped getting kind of the audio in that 1455 01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:44,759 Speaker 7: sense because you know a lot of it was visual 1456 01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,120 Speaker 7: as signals and yeah, yeah, you know that painting a picture, 1457 01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:49,040 Speaker 7: But now you know a voice in your head that's 1458 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:50,720 Speaker 7: got to paint a picture for you. So it's just 1459 01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:54,080 Speaker 7: a different way of getting the information and painting your 1460 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,400 Speaker 7: own picture to go do what you do. But it's 1461 01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,360 Speaker 7: been an easier transition now because that's you're just living 1462 01:09:59,360 --> 01:09:59,600 Speaker 7: by it. 1463 01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was I mean, that's that's new. That's new 1464 01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,280 Speaker 4: stuff for college football to have that dialogue. So that 1465 01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,639 Speaker 4: was that was that was noteworthy to say the least. 1466 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,240 Speaker 4: All Right, we'll go around the league coming up next 1467 01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,519 Speaker 4: to listen to Cleveland Browns Daily were presented by bally Bett, 1468 01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:14,559 Speaker 4: official sports winning partner Your Cleveland Browns. 1469 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:25,519 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily presented by bally Bett, an official sports 1470 01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:29,000 Speaker 1: betting partner of Your Cleveland Browns on eight fifty ESP 1471 01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:30,400 Speaker 1: and Cleveland. 1472 01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,040 Speaker 4: Browns Fantasy A game tickets are on sale now to 1473 01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,120 Speaker 4: scare your seats today for the top matchups at Huntington 1474 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,720 Speaker 4: Bankfield during the twenty twenty five seasons. Don't wait at 1475 01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,320 Speaker 4: Browns dot com slash tickets now for more. As we 1476 01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,280 Speaker 4: had around the league, the Pittsburgh Steelers are expected to 1477 01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,840 Speaker 4: come to a contract agreement with linebacker TJ. Watt before 1478 01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,000 Speaker 4: the start of the season. Per Gary Dulac of the 1479 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,800 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Post Gazette. The new deal is expected to be 1480 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,559 Speaker 4: to top Miles Garrett's four year one hundred and sixty 1481 01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,519 Speaker 4: million dollar extension with the Browns. There were some folks 1482 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:24,920 Speaker 4: that thought that maybe he would be traded. 1483 01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, there are people very close to him that thought 1484 01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:29,200 Speaker 2: he was going to be traded. So I don't know 1485 01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:33,080 Speaker 2: if that was posturing. That was what about a month ago, Yeah, 1486 01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:37,479 Speaker 2: like very close to him. So maybe they've decided that 1487 01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,200 Speaker 2: they would rather pay money. They seem to be active. 1488 01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,320 Speaker 2: You know, they're a team that's been talked about with 1489 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,840 Speaker 2: John new Smith, the next one, the next ahead. Yeah, 1490 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:47,800 Speaker 2: they're a team that's been talked about for trading for 1491 01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,880 Speaker 2: John new Smith. I've heard them be a team that's 1492 01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,840 Speaker 2: talked about in terms of trading for Kyle Pitts as 1493 01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,320 Speaker 2: well as maybe they're going to go to with an 1494 01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,240 Speaker 2: Arthur Smith. They're going to go twelve personnel, go two receivers. 1495 01:11:58,400 --> 01:11:59,599 Speaker 2: You know, they got rid of Pickens. 1496 01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,439 Speaker 4: Obviously, Gabe Davis is going to visit there. 1497 01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,840 Speaker 2: Who's a field stretcher. It was very productive obviously in 1498 01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:11,800 Speaker 2: his time there in Buffalo. Not so good down in Jacksonville. 1499 01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:15,360 Speaker 4: Let me just ask you this, Yeah, is this the 1500 01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,320 Speaker 4: behavior of a team that thinks they are not getting 1501 01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,400 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers? 1502 01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:26,640 Speaker 2: I mean You've got people right now around that organization, 1503 01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:31,519 Speaker 2: including players on the field who aren't talking like Mason 1504 01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:33,400 Speaker 2: Rudolf is Aaron Rodgers. 1505 01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:37,760 Speaker 4: That's delusional, fair, I mean there were people giving me 1506 01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,879 Speaker 4: I was getting Will Howard's stat lines from. 1507 01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:45,320 Speaker 2: Ota from man, you can't. I mean that people are 1508 01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,400 Speaker 2: doing that at our ots. I know, I've I've never 1509 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:48,240 Speaker 2: never heard of that. 1510 01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:53,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's happened, but so but it's just everything they're doing. 1511 01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:55,920 Speaker 2: He's just not acting like somebody that is going to 1512 01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:57,320 Speaker 2: be a Pittsburgh Steeler. 1513 01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:58,840 Speaker 4: In that he's not there. But he couldn't be doing 1514 01:12:58,840 --> 01:12:59,799 Speaker 4: that behind the scenes. 1515 01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:00,439 Speaker 2: He could be. 1516 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,320 Speaker 4: I don't know at what point, Like could he even 1517 01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,280 Speaker 4: show up for mini camp? Like what would he even 1518 01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:07,080 Speaker 4: be able to do? 1519 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:09,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. So like he's just gonna show up 1520 01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:14,080 Speaker 2: for training camp. I don't know, a quarterback learning it 1521 01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:20,960 Speaker 2: from the system. Everything they do and have done strikes 1522 01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,760 Speaker 2: me as an operation. This isn't an organization that feels like, hey, 1523 01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,400 Speaker 2: let's let's get our money right, let's get locked in, 1524 01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,360 Speaker 2: we're gonna have a great pick next year, we'll reset 1525 01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,000 Speaker 2: this thing. That's they don't do that, and it doesn't 1526 01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:32,280 Speaker 2: to me. 1527 01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:34,840 Speaker 4: They're behaving in a way like they think they got 1528 01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:36,960 Speaker 4: the answers to the test and they're gonna have him 1529 01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:39,599 Speaker 4: or someone of that ILK and there is nobody else 1530 01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,479 Speaker 4: of that ilk cousins. 1531 01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:45,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's a short list that offense. Well, 1532 01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,360 Speaker 2: but he would be learning it too. It's very simple. 1533 01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:53,519 Speaker 4: Arthur Smith be similar to this, Yeah, all that stuff. Yeah, 1534 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,719 Speaker 4: I do think Howard fits very well with what Arthur 1535 01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:58,640 Speaker 4: Smith would want to do. I mean, he's got a 1536 01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,160 Speaker 4: little He and Tanny Hill aren't far apart in terms 1537 01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:02,400 Speaker 4: of their stylistic approach. 1538 01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:04,960 Speaker 2: It's similar. So but I don't I don't think he 1539 01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,080 Speaker 2: would do that. I'm still I am surprised that he 1540 01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:08,240 Speaker 2: What are you in? Sixth round? 1541 01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:13,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, Yeah, he's pretty accurate. I mean he looked 1542 01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,120 Speaker 4: and he was the best quarterback on the field. 1543 01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:19,080 Speaker 2: In the playoff weekend week game. Like, yeah, that run 1544 01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,240 Speaker 2: he was on was a very good run. It was 1545 01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:21,960 Speaker 2: a very good run. 1546 01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:25,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, you've had a very bad combine throwing session. 1547 01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:25,879 Speaker 5: He did. 1548 01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,959 Speaker 2: On air, Ye, yes he did, he did. 1549 01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:33,759 Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't know. It's uh yeah, it's interesting 1550 01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,640 Speaker 4: over there. Our old buddy kuasiadolfha Mensa has agreed to 1551 01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:40,320 Speaker 4: a multi year contract extension for to be the vice 1552 01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:44,960 Speaker 4: president of the Minnesota Vikings that will continue. They have 1553 01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:48,760 Speaker 4: crushed it. He's nailed about everything. They really need to 1554 01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,360 Speaker 4: nail JJ McCarthy. They need JJ to be a dude, 1555 01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,559 Speaker 4: and obviously they believe he is because they brought no 1556 01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,040 Speaker 4: one in there to contend with him at all. 1557 01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,960 Speaker 2: No, and that's where Rogers wanted to go, and they're like, yeah, no, 1558 01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,040 Speaker 2: ye're not having it. That's the thing is that there 1559 01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:06,760 Speaker 2: was like vote voiced interest that Rogers wanted to go 1560 01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:10,479 Speaker 2: and be on the Minnesota Vikings. Yeah, there was none 1561 01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:12,840 Speaker 2: of that about him and the Steelers. No, there wasn't no. 1562 01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:14,599 Speaker 2: And I don't see how trading. 1563 01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:16,840 Speaker 4: He has said that he's in touch with them and 1564 01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:17,560 Speaker 4: he talks. 1565 01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:19,360 Speaker 2: To them, and he was like, oh, maybe i'll see 1566 01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,160 Speaker 2: you in Chicago, right, because they play in Chicago this year. 1567 01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:29,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. It's a very to me. 1568 01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:33,800 Speaker 2: It's very strange if you're asking a team to pay 1569 01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:35,960 Speaker 2: you and to play the most important position in sports, like, 1570 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:36,880 Speaker 2: you've got to be there. 1571 01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,840 Speaker 4: You have to be there, because I don't think there's 1572 01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,160 Speaker 4: any scenario where this would be a top if he 1573 01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,200 Speaker 4: had his choosing. I don't think this would be in 1574 01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:47,439 Speaker 4: the top ten no of the places that he would 1575 01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,519 Speaker 4: want to go. No, but it's just the only place 1576 01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:52,879 Speaker 4: that he can go to and you could talk yourself 1577 01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:53,479 Speaker 4: into winning. 1578 01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:55,960 Speaker 2: There's a part of me nowhere else. There's a part 1579 01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,519 Speaker 2: of me that thinks he is saying, at some point 1580 01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:06,439 Speaker 2: in this year, roll the dice one of Lamar Burrough, 1581 01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:13,400 Speaker 2: Alan Mahomes. 1582 01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,160 Speaker 5: Oh, there he is in the mix. 1583 01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:21,760 Speaker 2: Uh, the great Hawk, Jared Goff. I don't think you'd 1584 01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:28,599 Speaker 2: say Jordan Love, McCarthy Stafford that Why did you say 1585 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,519 Speaker 2: no to Jordan Love. I don't think there's any way 1586 01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:32,599 Speaker 2: he would go back to Green Bay. 1587 01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,439 Speaker 13: I don't know if Peter Laflour doesn't it feel like 1588 01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:37,240 Speaker 13: they that. 1589 01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:41,679 Speaker 4: Was yeah, but I don't know. Okay, did win a lot? Okay, 1590 01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:42,559 Speaker 4: like he knows Love? 1591 01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:47,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it would be ultimate heel move if 1592 01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:48,479 Speaker 2: he was like, I'm gonna go to the Bears of 1593 01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,520 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams went down with all those dudes. 1594 01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:52,960 Speaker 4: That would be the weaponry there in a very very 1595 01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,519 Speaker 4: big way. I think the only reason I said Bay 1596 01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:57,680 Speaker 4: is like he was he was quite literally there when 1597 01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,920 Speaker 4: they mended fences with far tam You can see that. 1598 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Tampa for sure. Niners. So now you're talking prety, 1599 01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:10,559 Speaker 2: so like that's just twelve off the top of our head. 1600 01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,720 Speaker 2: There's a good chance somebody there's gonna get hurt. Dak Broncos. 1601 01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:14,479 Speaker 2: Did you do Denver? 1602 01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:15,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1603 01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:19,679 Speaker 2: I did. I wrote down Denver. Yeah, for Bonix Chargers 1604 01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:25,320 Speaker 2: maybe maybe maybe Texans, Texans. Yeah, all right, so that's 1605 01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:25,920 Speaker 2: like half the leak. 1606 01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:30,800 Speaker 4: Somebody will get hurt, gotta get hurt. Yeah, and I 1607 01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,200 Speaker 4: think probably light Detector. He'd rather if any of those 1608 01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:35,639 Speaker 4: had opportunities, you'd rather go there than Pittsburgh, of course. 1609 01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:37,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1610 01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be. It's it's June third. 1611 01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,799 Speaker 2: I even think Arizona, it'd say Kyler goes down. Arizona's 1612 01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:48,040 Speaker 2: off to a decent start. Yeah, they got weapons, nice weapons, yeah, 1613 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:49,320 Speaker 2: nice Weather Dome. 1614 01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:56,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, yeah, absolutely. Kyler retirements Lions. Four time Pro 1615 01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,439 Speaker 4: Bowl center Frank Raig Now announced his retirement at the 1616 01:17:58,479 --> 01:17:59,920 Speaker 4: end of for the NFL at the age of just 1617 01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:05,000 Speaker 4: twenty nine, and also David Andrews announced his retirement after 1618 01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,679 Speaker 4: ten season with the Patriots, said he didn't want to play. 1619 01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:08,200 Speaker 2: For another team. 1620 01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:11,839 Speaker 4: The cover man in twenty six is Saquon Barkley hurtling 1621 01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:17,519 Speaker 4: over a defender. This is we get it every year, 1622 01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:20,240 Speaker 4: and now we bundled it with the NCAA last year. 1623 01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,280 Speaker 4: This is the first time that there isn't and it's 1624 01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,240 Speaker 4: been waning, like the FIFA games better and they're into 1625 01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:28,400 Speaker 4: the other stuff now too. A little bit. Last year 1626 01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:33,520 Speaker 4: was the first time that not a single season franchise 1627 01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:39,280 Speaker 4: my player was started, was not started. The kids didn't 1628 01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,240 Speaker 4: crack it open. Once I played. I got a little 1629 01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:44,040 Speaker 4: itch in the middle of the football season last year 1630 01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:45,800 Speaker 4: where had a little bit of downtime and I had 1631 01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:49,160 Speaker 4: the itch to play. I played with us. I threw 1632 01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,800 Speaker 4: interceptions on my first two possessions. I shut it down 1633 01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:52,599 Speaker 4: and never played again. 1634 01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:53,639 Speaker 2: And that's it. 1635 01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:55,479 Speaker 5: Oh, it's a reasonable crash. 1636 01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll just play college football like that. Every pass 1637 01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,160 Speaker 4: isn't either caught or inter in this game. I don't 1638 01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:03,080 Speaker 4: know why they can't get the gameplay right, but I 1639 01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,800 Speaker 4: think it's really slipped. And I know that they they'll 1640 01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,120 Speaker 4: say like, Shook's an aficionado, and he's like, they've made 1641 01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,880 Speaker 4: these changes, They've made these and I'm I can't tell. 1642 01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,479 Speaker 4: It feels the same to me feels no different than 1643 01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:14,960 Speaker 4: what that game has been for a decade. 1644 01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:18,120 Speaker 2: There's no change. They're going to make it much better, 1645 01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,200 Speaker 2: but we'll see. You played the college game. 1646 01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:24,160 Speaker 5: It was much better. Yes, it was way better. Yeah, 1647 01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,559 Speaker 5: it's way better. It turnds down back when I had 1648 01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,760 Speaker 5: my PS two to today. I don't know why the 1649 01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,200 Speaker 5: football was better than Madden. I don't know how they 1650 01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:34,479 Speaker 5: got it better. You had a theory. I think you 1651 01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:35,560 Speaker 5: gave me a theory. 1652 01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,400 Speaker 4: On it runs and you might have been right that 1653 01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,439 Speaker 4: the college football game because if you play like so, 1654 01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,120 Speaker 4: let's say you played with Ohio State, there's probably only 1655 01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,080 Speaker 4: two or three games on the schedule where the talent 1656 01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:48,400 Speaker 4: is like so you get to annihilate people fifty six 1657 01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,080 Speaker 4: to nothing, where in the NFL they're all tight. But 1658 01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:53,479 Speaker 4: it's the turnover thing that bug drives me nuts about 1659 01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:55,600 Speaker 4: madd and it's everything's a touchdown, a completion or an 1660 01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,040 Speaker 4: interception that they have. 1661 01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:58,920 Speaker 2: Some throws that are off because of the college kids, 1662 01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:00,800 Speaker 2: but they're just off, and they're right. 1663 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:04,040 Speaker 4: It's fine, Yeah, you overthrow somebody out of bounds. 1664 01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:06,280 Speaker 2: You do perfect or it's picked, it's picked. 1665 01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:07,800 Speaker 4: And it's just I don't understand why they can't get 1666 01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,400 Speaker 4: that part right. The ai of that they case have 1667 01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:11,240 Speaker 4: never been able to get it right. 1668 01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:14,439 Speaker 5: One other story that came out yesterday and I wanted 1669 01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:16,240 Speaker 5: to run it up the flypole with you guys. Yea 1670 01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:21,800 Speaker 5: from the Schultz Report. Our former offensive tackle Jed Wills, 1671 01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,160 Speaker 5: who dealt with a lingering knee injury last season, is 1672 01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:27,600 Speaker 5: planning to sit out most or possibly all, of the 1673 01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,320 Speaker 5: upcoming season to fully recover and get back to one 1674 01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,720 Speaker 5: hundred percent. Wills, the former Brown's top ten pick, has 1675 01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:36,360 Speaker 5: drawn interest from multiple teams still just twenty six years old, 1676 01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:39,160 Speaker 5: but believes taking the time off is the best move 1677 01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:44,800 Speaker 5: for the long term future of his career. I don't know. 1678 01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,000 Speaker 5: I know, Nathan, you had floated it out there, like 1679 01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:49,280 Speaker 5: why not take a flyer? 1680 01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:51,800 Speaker 4: And oh yeah, we talked about a lot, but I 1681 01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:54,320 Speaker 4: don't think he clearly has very little interest in playing. 1682 01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,040 Speaker 5: Football that would agree with me. 1683 01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:56,519 Speaker 2: Yep. 1684 01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:00,559 Speaker 4: You know, that's one of the things you don't you 1685 01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:04,320 Speaker 4: there's no way of knowing when you draft somebody is 1686 01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:08,200 Speaker 4: what this will do for them or to them, or 1687 01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:09,920 Speaker 4: maybe it won't do anything, or maybe it's just something 1688 01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:10,960 Speaker 4: you who knows. 1689 01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:12,720 Speaker 2: But it was never physical with jed. 1690 01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:16,080 Speaker 4: He was great as a rookie, and there's a reason 1691 01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:20,240 Speaker 4: Hoff went nuts when he drafted him, like all of 1692 01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:24,400 Speaker 4: the tools, but just just wasn't didn't feel like it 1693 01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,080 Speaker 4: like football was a number one priority. 1694 01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:27,599 Speaker 2: This is what it seemed like when he was here. 1695 01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:29,479 Speaker 4: You want to do a little higher lower lecu or 1696 01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:31,000 Speaker 4: you want to go around around the You'll. 1697 01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:32,639 Speaker 5: Go around the sports world because we're going to shorten 1698 01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:34,439 Speaker 5: things up, all right. 1699 01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:35,880 Speaker 4: There you go, We'll go around the sports world. 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As we go around the sports world. 1708 01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:17,959 Speaker 4: This from the most recent episode of the New Heights podcast. 1709 01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,160 Speaker 4: Jason Kelsey offered his thoughts in selecting a team to 1710 01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:23,240 Speaker 4: play flag football in twenty twenty eight. Suggested a coach 1711 01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:25,880 Speaker 4: familiar with flag football select NFL players to make an 1712 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:29,200 Speaker 4: NFL represented team. They would compete against the professional US 1713 01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,639 Speaker 4: flag football team and the winner would represent the US 1714 01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:32,680 Speaker 4: and the Olympics. 1715 01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:37,840 Speaker 2: Believe you had this, let's go, let's go, yes, of course, yeah, 1716 01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:41,160 Speaker 2: of course. By the way, like I've read now a 1717 01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:42,920 Speaker 2: lot of discourse on this, and they think that the 1718 01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:46,880 Speaker 2: NFL team will get smoked. Who thinks that. I've read 1719 01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:48,519 Speaker 2: a lot of people have said the flag football Jones 1720 01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:52,560 Speaker 2: thinks that every play that these guys run this like 1721 01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:55,519 Speaker 2: a flag football Jones team run like three people touch 1722 01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,000 Speaker 2: the ball, all of them can throw it their mixed direction. 1723 01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:00,880 Speaker 2: You never know what's like. This isn't just line up 1724 01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:03,160 Speaker 2: and we're going to drop back and run our routes 1725 01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,559 Speaker 2: and you're going to cover us. It's a whole lot 1726 01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:09,160 Speaker 2: of oh yeah, yeah, it's funny. 1727 01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:10,720 Speaker 4: And he like when we played, I know, there was 1728 01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,559 Speaker 4: never any gimmicky like we just want when you went 1729 01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:15,800 Speaker 4: like but so I never knew that they would do that. 1730 01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,240 Speaker 2: So everything is like a double pass for verse. Hell, 1731 01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:22,040 Speaker 2: there's all kinds of stuff. Yeah, well, I want to 1732 01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:23,800 Speaker 2: see it. There is. 1733 01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,080 Speaker 4: This might be much ado about nothing. There might not 1734 01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:28,800 Speaker 4: be a single NFL player who does this. 1735 01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:39,559 Speaker 10: Also true, no one on my what's that playing there's 1736 01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:40,240 Speaker 10: no chance? 1737 01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,120 Speaker 4: And I think you know, we we hit on Kyler 1738 01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,120 Speaker 4: last week and it's like, well, yeah, Kyler would make 1739 01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:46,880 Speaker 4: He feels like he'd be everything you'd want to play 1740 01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,120 Speaker 4: football quarterback to be. He's really shipped, a great arm 1741 01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:52,519 Speaker 4: to throw from every angle, all of those things. But like, 1742 01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:54,400 Speaker 4: what's his upside for doing it? 1743 01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:54,920 Speaker 2: Nothing? 1744 01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,679 Speaker 4: The only thing he can do is what is expected, 1745 01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:00,200 Speaker 4: which is never lose, blow everybody out and in the 1746 01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:03,000 Speaker 4: gold medal if they don't do that, it's a wild disappointment. 1747 01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:04,440 Speaker 4: What's the upside for him? 1748 01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:05,240 Speaker 5: How much more? 1749 01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:06,400 Speaker 2: What exposure do you need? 1750 01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:08,519 Speaker 5: None? 1751 01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:09,240 Speaker 2: No upside. 1752 01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:14,280 Speaker 4: And I do think if you took I what Kelsey's 1753 01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:17,360 Speaker 4: saying here of like a veteran flag football coach, that 1754 01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,040 Speaker 4: makes a lot of sense obviously, because you'd want to 1755 01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,599 Speaker 4: have people who knew the game. But I do think 1756 01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:25,720 Speaker 4: if you did that and you played, you gave like 1757 01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,240 Speaker 4: a month to put in a playbook that had all 1758 01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,600 Speaker 4: this stuff, I think you'd be more than fine. Like 1759 01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:33,120 Speaker 4: I think you'd pick it up pretty quick, Like you'd 1760 01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,280 Speaker 4: pick up the trick plays and all that stuff pretty quick. 1761 01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:37,240 Speaker 4: And most of these guys in the league could do 1762 01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:40,000 Speaker 4: all of the things better than any of those guys. 1763 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:43,240 Speaker 2: Could for sure. It's just like the second nature aspect 1764 01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:43,519 Speaker 2: of it. 1765 01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:46,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think the notion that like you just 1766 01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:49,000 Speaker 4: line up and go drill them. No, I mean you'd 1767 01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:50,960 Speaker 4: have to have it's a different game. To your point, 1768 01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:52,640 Speaker 4: I was unaware of it. I didn't realize it was 1769 01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:54,519 Speaker 4: all that. That's I want to see it. 1770 01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:56,559 Speaker 2: I want to see Jason Kelsey, he gets let's see 1771 01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:00,719 Speaker 2: flag football Jones out there in the mix. This will 1772 01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:02,479 Speaker 2: not readnew Inside the NFL. 1773 01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:04,760 Speaker 4: After two seasons, the show currently doesn't have a home 1774 01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,400 Speaker 4: for twenty twenty five. Last season's cast included Ryan Clark, 1775 01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:09,520 Speaker 4: Ched Johnson, Chris Long, and Bill Belichick. 1776 01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:11,599 Speaker 2: Did you watch a second of it? Not a second? 1777 01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,599 Speaker 4: This was when I first got HBO, the Len Dawson, 1778 01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:17,880 Speaker 4: Nick Bonicatti, Chris Collinsworth. 1779 01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:19,240 Speaker 2: Who is the fourth on that? 1780 01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,479 Speaker 4: Dawson, Boncatti, Collinsworth. 1781 01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:24,160 Speaker 2: That's the three I remember. 1782 01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:26,559 Speaker 4: I can't remember who the fourth was. And then JB 1783 01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,640 Speaker 4: came on later Boomer part of that. JB was on 1784 01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:33,120 Speaker 4: it for a long time. I can't remember the original group, 1785 01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:35,800 Speaker 4: but there was. That was What was so cool is 1786 01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,960 Speaker 4: you got the NFL films, highlight ye reels on every game, 1787 01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:44,600 Speaker 4: and now you don't need that to do it. You know, 1788 01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:46,559 Speaker 4: the other the other thing, and this is a real 1789 01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,519 Speaker 4: thing with a younger generation. I'm sure your kids are 1790 01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:55,760 Speaker 4: the same way. For my kids, a YouTuber breaking down 1791 01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:59,639 Speaker 4: the NFL is no different than Len Dawson breaking down 1792 01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:04,000 Speaker 4: the NFL. Well, doesn't make a dang bit of difference 1793 01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:04,280 Speaker 4: to them. 1794 01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:07,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was basically it was. It was Collinsworth, Dawson, 1795 01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:11,280 Speaker 2: and Boncatti. Just several former players and coach services co 1796 01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,559 Speaker 2: host throughout this period from seventy eight to two thousand 1797 01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,120 Speaker 2: and one. But it was basically the three of them, Dawson, Collinsworth, 1798 01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,559 Speaker 2: and Boncanti. Jimmy Johnson was on for a little while, 1799 01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:21,400 Speaker 2: Jerry Glanville was on for a little while. On two 1800 01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,920 Speaker 2: thousand and one, two thousand and six, they retire and 1801 01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:26,840 Speaker 2: it was hosted by Costas with Marino, Collinsworth and Chris Carter. 1802 01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:30,519 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean the big run was just the. 1803 01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:30,840 Speaker 5: Three of them. 1804 01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:34,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great. Seventy eight to two thousand and one, 1805 01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:41,200 Speaker 2: that's all run, man. Yes, it originally started with Al 1806 01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:46,280 Speaker 2: Meltzer and Chuck Bennarik and Merle Harmon. That was the 1807 01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:49,280 Speaker 2: beginning of it. Then they left and it became Dawson, 1808 01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:50,480 Speaker 2: Boncatti and Collinsworth. 1809 01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:54,120 Speaker 4: Chuck Bednarick was unbelievable in those Nike ads that he 1810 01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:55,720 Speaker 4: used to do, and then he did like this is 1811 01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:58,800 Speaker 4: Sports Center. I think he did two you those, I 1812 01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,280 Speaker 4: remember he did a bunch and then he on Letterman sometimes. 1813 01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:05,439 Speaker 4: I know, yeah, him and him and like Art Donovan, 1814 01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,400 Speaker 4: the great Art Donovan. Those are like the two guys 1815 01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:10,479 Speaker 4: from those. Art Donovan was straight comedy. 1816 01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:10,920 Speaker 5: Yep. 1817 01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:14,880 Speaker 2: Everything he did, Yeah, that was that. Yeah, I just 1818 01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:15,439 Speaker 2: don't know that. 1819 01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:19,080 Speaker 4: I think the landscape has changed so much at this 1820 01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:24,240 Speaker 4: point that that what is the the way we consume 1821 01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,160 Speaker 4: things is just so different. You never just sit there 1822 01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:30,240 Speaker 4: and listen to an hour straight of NFL stuff on TV. 1823 01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:33,760 Speaker 4: You're just not a couple other things here of note, 1824 01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,280 Speaker 4: you'll learned No Magic have unveiled a new logo, uniforms 1825 01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:38,040 Speaker 4: and a court design for next season. The new design 1826 01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:40,600 Speaker 4: mixes in some nostalgia from past. Yeah, sure does. I 1827 01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:43,120 Speaker 4: mean it's the white and the blue are basically their 1828 01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:46,680 Speaker 4: old nineties uniforms. There's almost nothing different, and then the 1829 01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:48,880 Speaker 4: black one is just a variation of it with just 1830 01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,240 Speaker 4: kind of in a diagonal. It's a great color scheme. 1831 01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,800 Speaker 4: Them and Charlotte when they came onto the scene, I 1832 01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:55,840 Speaker 4: mean they just crushed it. 1833 01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:58,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, they ever changed any of them, They're perfect. 1834 01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:02,800 Speaker 13: I don't know these magical great change Pollow looking great 1835 01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:06,840 Speaker 13: new threads. Yeah yeah, yeah, that was a clean Let's 1836 01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,040 Speaker 13: get him a shooter, clean clean operation. 1837 01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:14,240 Speaker 2: Or let's we'll focus on trading for Giannis. That's tired 1838 01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:17,080 Speaker 2: wired trading for Pollow. There you go. 1839 01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:19,920 Speaker 4: I saw ESPN today was having a little fun with 1840 01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:25,799 Speaker 4: a Donovan Mitchell to the Mavericks, Cooper flag here, Jared 1841 01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:29,559 Speaker 4: Allen to the Lakers, a couple of Lakers pieces to 1842 01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:32,439 Speaker 4: bought to Chicago, and then a couple of pieces from 1843 01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:34,879 Speaker 4: Dallas here on that. 1844 01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:39,200 Speaker 2: They're not trying Cooper flag out of Dallas. No, I 1845 01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:43,000 Speaker 2: don't think did you see I saw this? He made 1846 01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:46,439 Speaker 2: He made twenty eight million in NIL last year. 1847 01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,439 Speaker 4: I don't even think that that's the full picture. That's 1848 01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:53,280 Speaker 4: basically two endorsements. That's he got thirteen and a half 1849 01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:56,200 Speaker 4: I want to say, from New Balance, which is recurring 1850 01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,719 Speaker 4: every year, and then he's got fifteen U from Panini 1851 01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:04,120 Speaker 4: and fanatics and Panine? Was it Fanatics or Panini? You 1852 01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:05,720 Speaker 4: guys remember Brock, Do you remember which one it was? 1853 01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:09,000 Speaker 4: Fanatics or Panini? Gave him fifteen So that isn't even 1854 01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:09,719 Speaker 4: like the nil. 1855 01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:16,800 Speaker 2: He made it a duke. Yeah, yeah, that's wild. Yeah, dude. 1856 01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:19,080 Speaker 4: Ohio State today, I see they say Tyler Harros get 1857 01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:20,960 Speaker 4: but the other thing. Real quickly, I know I'm up 1858 01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:23,719 Speaker 4: against it. Ohio State signed a guard today, a German 1859 01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:26,639 Speaker 4: guard to play basketball for them next year, who played 1860 01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:32,280 Speaker 4: two years for Barcelona in the euro League professional basketball player, 1861 01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:34,240 Speaker 4: and now he's going to come play in college. 1862 01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:37,280 Speaker 2: It doesn't feel right. That's where we're at. By the way, 1863 01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:39,439 Speaker 2: if I'm Cooper Flag and I can make forty million 1864 01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:42,360 Speaker 2: dollars a year, was he he was one year of duke? 1865 01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:42,920 Speaker 5: One year? 1866 01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:45,560 Speaker 2: Dude, I would stay for four. That's what Archer is 1867 01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:47,120 Speaker 2: going to do. That's why he's going to stay. 1868 01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:49,960 Speaker 13: I would stay for four and be the time of 1869 01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:50,400 Speaker 13: my life. 1870 01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:52,320 Speaker 2: King of the world. 1871 01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:55,599 Speaker 5: Can say it, but why. 1872 01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:56,240 Speaker 2: Would you do it too? 1873 01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:56,680 Speaker 5: I'm with you. 1874 01:29:56,800 --> 01:30:00,000 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, gracious me, so much more to come. 1875 01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:01,880 Speaker 2: Cleveland Ron Daily eight fifty ESPN. 1876 01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:09,080 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily presented by Bally Bett, an official 1877 01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:12,240 Speaker 1: sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns on eight fifty 1878 01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:13,800 Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland. 1879 01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:22,959 Speaker 4: Ah, you got a nice little day for you. Tomorrow 1880 01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:26,320 Speaker 4: we're back on the fields. Yeah, you're gonna have some pressers. 1881 01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:32,400 Speaker 4: We got Schwartz tomorrow. We got Bubba tomorrow. Some established players. 1882 01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:35,800 Speaker 4: You'll have some players tomorrow. Tommy Reese, Tommy Reese, san 1883 01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,080 Speaker 4: of a proper bar, Tommy Reese will be in the mix. 1884 01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:42,080 Speaker 2: We got groundbreaking. We got the groundbreaking ceremonies tomorrow for 1885 01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:46,960 Speaker 2: District forty six. Let's go. I like it very exciting. 1886 01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:48,439 Speaker 4: You have that to look forward to, which is nice. 1887 01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:50,839 Speaker 4: The next level is coming up next. 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