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Speaker 3: little bit later in the day. Crazy of course day

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Speaker 3: in American history yesterday wild stuff, and I'm sure it's

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Speaker 3: gonna play a little what you got?

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Speaker 4: What's you good?

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Speaker 3: What you got? Now? This first one is a little while.

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Speaker 3: Bradley Beal set a career high with sixty points last

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Speaker 3: night versus Philly, but it came in a loss, and

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Speaker 3: he was not happy. I'm pissed off, bial said, I'm mad.

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Speaker 3: I don't count them any of my career highs. They've

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Speaker 3: is actually a would you rather lee same thing? Would

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Speaker 3: you rather score sixty in a lostly or zero points

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Speaker 5: This is so tough because it is my guy, Bradley

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Speaker 5: Beal out there doing it, and getting to sixty was

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Speaker 5: I mean, okay, in January, I'll take the sixty and

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Speaker 5: because he was just cooking last night, Bradley Beal. He

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Speaker 3: But the question is for you, I have a calling

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Speaker 3: answer to make up buddy sixty and a loss no

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Speaker 3: greater for Trey Kirby.

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Speaker 4: That guy played eighteen seconds last night, didn't score for

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Speaker 5: Beal just couldn't get loose. The Sixers defense was pretty

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Speaker 5: those shots he was knocking down, which sure, oh so beautiful,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember when he was drafted exactly. Ray Allen

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Speaker 4: I love this this new phrase you've been using a

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Speaker 3: A beautiful shooter of the basketball.

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Speaker 3: Maybe something we can do in the future.

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Speaker 4: But if you're the Sixers, are you concerned about this

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Speaker 3: That was Josh Richardson last year.

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Speaker 4: he's gone replaced now with Danny Green and Seth Curry,

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Speaker 3: That seems to still be the case. Yeah, that's fair.

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Speaker 3: It's like, all right, they're not gonna be a lot

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Speaker 3: Like I don't get as excited for even a sixty

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Speaker 3: today's game of course than back in Lee Ellis's eighties days. Well, yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 5: To backs, they were in back to back nights as well.

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Speaker 4: Maybe the only thing that Beal is piling up besides

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Speaker 3: Something's got to change. I mean, Scotty Brooks.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe Bradley Beal should try on defense

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Speaker 3: The games.

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Speaker 4: YEA, how many fifty point games can you have where

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Speaker 3: good old Malcolm Brogden continued his strong play. He's scored

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Speaker 3: Really great stuff.

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Speaker 4: But to see him showing out this for the Pistons,

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Speaker 4: I think is pretty nice. You know, he had thirty

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Speaker 4: bit encouraged that Jeremy Grant's able to be getting buckets

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, very surprising. Do you go with Jeremy Grant

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Speaker 5: What you got, well, well, the way that Gordon Hayward

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Speaker 4: the baseline. He was kind of doing everything for the

433
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Speaker 4: Hornets last night. It's a lot of money for him,

434
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Speaker 4: but they got the money to burn. They don't have

435
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Speaker 4: a lot of high value assets on their teams right now,

436
00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,440
Speaker 4: so let Gordon Hayward cook.

437
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And like you said, compared him to Kyle Anderson

438
00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,480
Speaker 3: there lee like that slow mo vibes to him, for sure.

439
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Speaker 3: I've made the crazy comparison before on this podcast that

440
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Speaker 3: I see in one particular move that Hayward does on

441
00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:05,480
Speaker 3: like qualities that that slow, methodical sort of They're very strong.

442
00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,560
Speaker 3: I mean, Gordon Hayward is a tank. He really is.

443
00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,959
Speaker 3: He is strong dude, where he just sort of like

444
00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,320
Speaker 3: gets too into the paint there is and the guy

445
00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,479
Speaker 3: just bounces off them like Lebron and it's just like,

446
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Speaker 3: I don't know how else to describe. It's just so

447
00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,280
Speaker 3: similar to me that particular skill set or shot that

448
00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:20,840
Speaker 3: they both have.

449
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Speaker 5: It's the deliberate move I think, Yeah, you know, like,

450
00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,760
Speaker 5: you know, he's going to his spot and he's gonna

451
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Speaker 5: get there and he's gonna get that shot off. And

452
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,240
Speaker 5: that's again that's what I saw last for two. Yeah,

453
00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,840
Speaker 5: like he was in control of his game last night.

454
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Speaker 5: He's very patient with it and it's good to say.

455
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Speaker 5: And you know, the result was there for them as well,

456
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Speaker 5: because forty four kind of quiet points in a pretty

457
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Speaker 5: good win for them.

458
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Speaker 3: Really yeah, a really good win, like you said, putting

459
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Speaker 3: the Hawks back to five hundred, I believe. And malcol Brogden,

460
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Speaker 3: let's just show him some love. I mean, this happening

461
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Speaker 3: is thirty five. He had a big shot late in

462
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 3: this one too. He had just hit the game winner,

463
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Speaker 3: you know, the game prior this guy, I think right now,

464
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Speaker 3: I remember we threw it out there, Trey, like we

465
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,280
Speaker 3: were like, are the Pacers possibly going to have two

466
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 3: All Stars? Like right now, I absolutely think the answer

467
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 3: is yes. I think it would be Sabonis in Brogden

468
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,600
Speaker 3: rightfully making a team with the record the Pacers have

469
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Speaker 3: and without some of the other guys in the conference

470
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,359
Speaker 3: struggling or not living up to their potential yet. So yeah,

471
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Speaker 3: and I Deepo's played well. I think Brogden's ahead of

472
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Speaker 3: him though, even in the backing order.

473
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Speaker 4: Right now, Yeah, feels like the same discussion we had

474
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Speaker 4: with the Pacers last year, Who's going to be their

475
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 4: All Star is at Brogden, Is it Sabonus. It feels

476
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Speaker 4: like it's been changing. The first week and a half

477
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Speaker 4: of the season, it was Sabonus, he was averaging a

478
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Speaker 4: triple double. Now it's been Brogna hit the game winner,

479
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 4: had a career high as well. Like you're saying last night,

480
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 4: the two of them, I think it's very funny that

481
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Speaker 4: they're both always in the mix for an All Star

482
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,440
Speaker 4: bid because they're such great analogies to each other really,

483
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Speaker 4: because they both do everything from their position that you

484
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Speaker 4: expect right. They both play defense, they both can create

485
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,120
Speaker 4: from the outside, they can score inside, they can both

486
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 4: play away from the ball, they can have the ball.

487
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Speaker 3: In their hands.

488
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Speaker 4: They're great pick and roll partners, great dribble handoff partners,

489
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Speaker 4: which is why once the two of them got together

490
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Speaker 4: in Indiana last season, both of their games really took off.

491
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 4: Because they're both such high IQ players. It feels like

492
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,360
Speaker 4: they make the right play all the time, and they're

493
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Speaker 4: able to make the play that's necessary all the time.

494
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Speaker 4: It'll probably go back and forth between these two up

495
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Speaker 4: until the All Star break. But maybe this is the

496
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Speaker 4: year the Pacers get to Yeah.

497
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Speaker 3: Maybe. I think it's crazy too that when you look

498
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Speaker 3: at the Pacers you talk about like their best players,

499
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Speaker 3: there's no doubt, Like a couple of years ago, you're

500
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Speaker 3: looking at the Pacers roster and going, well, it's going

501
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Speaker 3: to be Oladipo is going to be their best player,

502
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Speaker 3: and he was until the injury, and then Myles Turner.

503
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people would have had like

504
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Speaker 3: right there with Oladipo, but instead, again easy case we made.

505
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Speaker 3: Those guys are the third and fourth best player on

506
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Speaker 3: this team with Sabonis and Broadnon, why they're playing.

507
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Speaker 5: Ly Oh absolutely yeah. I mean they've had the talent there.

508
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Speaker 5: But I think with Miles Tener, for example, he had

509
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Speaker 5: eight lucks lass not defensively he was actually very good.

510
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Speaker 3: Oh he's doing he's doing all the things he should

511
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Speaker 3: be doing. He don't need to be worrying about scoring

512
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Speaker 3: twenty five am Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but he also hasn't really lived up to his

514
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Speaker 5: offensivel at times. I think that's one of the problems

515
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 5: with Miles turner because he can hit that three, but

516
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Speaker 5: he's also sometimes just goes missing. But the thing with Brogdon, yeah,

517
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Speaker 5: I mean they got him from Milwaukee, they paid him

518
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Speaker 5: the big bucks. A lot of people wondered if they

519
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 5: overpaid for him, but I think you're seeing you're getting

520
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Speaker 5: ptty good value on him right now. He's a very

521
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Speaker 5: steady hand and that's I think something that Milwaukee has

522
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Speaker 5: missed as well him not being there. And of course

523
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Speaker 5: Sabonas and Aldadepot came over in the Paul George trade,

524
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Speaker 5: which seems like that was about ten years ago now.

525
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 5: So the pacer has got very very good value when

526
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Speaker 5: you look at that. Sibonas, like we've said a lot,

527
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Speaker 5: you're a very very consistent, solid, strong guy. Knows how

528
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Speaker 5: to score inside. Very rarely does he sort of get

529
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Speaker 5: beaten when he's inside because he can use those gigantic

530
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Speaker 5: shoulders and arms to create space for himself and just

531
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Speaker 5: go with some dinkers and dumpers inside.

532
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Speaker 3: It's very good.

533
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Speaker 5: But he also spreads the floor as a good passer.

534
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Speaker 5: Now they just play good team basketball. They're third in

535
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Speaker 5: the East right now, the Indiana paces. They're six and

536
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Speaker 5: two and they I mean, we just always overlooked them

537
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Speaker 5: coming into the season. You look at that ruster and

538
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 5: you think they don't have that, you know, one sort

539
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Speaker 5: of superstar who can go out there and get your

540
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 5: forty five or fifty points. But they're very well balanced,

541
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Speaker 5: and I think that's the key to Indiana. They're just

542
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 5: being like that for so many years. You know, they're

543
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 5: good defensively, they're good offensively, and you just kind of

544
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 5: overlook them because you like, you're sort of thinking, well,

545
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 5: other teams with better talent should be able to bake

546
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 5: this thing. But that's not the case with them.

547
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Speaker 3: Got some sad what you got options here in this

548
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 3: next one. Magic guard Markel Folts suffered a season ending

549
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 3: torn acl last night less than five minutes into the game.

550
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 3: Faults driving in their cutoff by Ocoro and his left knee.

551
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 3: Falts's left knee buckled without contact. That's a tough loss.

552
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 3: And meanwhile, the Pistons announced yesterday a rookie point guard

553
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Speaker 3: Killian Hayes is out indefinitely after suffering a torn laborum

554
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 3: in his right hip earlier in the week. He didn't

555
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 3: play in last night's game versus the Bucks. So more

556
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Speaker 3: heartbreaking injury, Falts's acl or rookie Killian Hayes torn hip?

557
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Speaker 3: What you got, Trey Well?

558
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Speaker 4: I mean, the answer is both, but the answer is

559
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Speaker 4: also markl. Foltz because just the his career has gone,

560
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 4: obviously he was the number one draft pick.

561
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 3: His rookie year still a mystery. What happened.

562
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 4: He had to remake his body, had to remake his game,

563
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 4: and he did it like he became a solid starting

564
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 4: point guard for the Magic last season, twelve points a game,

565
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,719
Speaker 4: five assists. He shot seventy three percent for the free

566
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Speaker 4: throw line, which is a huge improvement considering it seemed

567
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 4: like he would never take a shot in the NBA

568
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 4: for a long time. He was able to be a

569
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 4: solid starter for the Magic, and now, after having recreated

570
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 4: his career, he's going to have to start over again.

571
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Speaker 4: The good part is that he's still young man. He's

572
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 4: still only twenty two years old. He'll obviously be twenty

573
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 4: three knocking on the door of twenty four when he

574
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Speaker 4: comes back to the Magic next season. But it's just tough.

575
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Speaker 4: You know, the Magic are already missing Michael Carter Williams

576
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 4: as well, another ball handler. They don't have a lot

577
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 4: of ball handling to begin with. It's going to be

578
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 4: the Cole Anthony Show, which I'm kind of okay, with

579
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 4: a little more Terrence Ross as well. But just a

580
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 4: bummer for Markel fu folks, who has been able to

581
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 4: turn around his career, no doubt about it. He could

582
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 4: have easily been out of the league, but teams were

583
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 4: definitely gonna him a chance. The Magic did. It's paid

584
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Speaker 4: off so far. Hopefully he's able to get back and

585
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 4: become a contributor again.

586
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was playing even better earth than he was

587
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 3: last year. I think you would agree with that league,

588
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: and he did get paid. I mean he got the

589
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: three year, fifty million dollars extension last month. They believed

590
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 3: in him that he can be a solid, solid point

591
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 3: guard in this league. This sucks for Magic fans as

592
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 3: the second starter now star player really on your team,

593
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Speaker 3: one of them that's out with an acl terror because

594
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Speaker 3: they're already missing Jonathan Isaac from the same twenty seventeen

595
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 3: draft him being signlied with the same injuries. So yeah,

596
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 3: I assume you're going faults with this one too.

597
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is one of those ones that when you

598
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Speaker 5: see this news coming through and they pretty quickly diagnosed

599
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 5: torn acl You just say, oh my god, like, how

600
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 5: many more sort of setbacks can this guy face before

601
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 5: he can get out there and play again?

602
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Speaker 3: And he was.

603
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Speaker 5: He was starting to play well, I think, very comfortable

604
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 5: in that role, comfortable in that situation too. In Orlando,

605
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 5: there wasn't the same attention on him as he faced

606
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Speaker 5: when he was in Philadelphia. I mean, number one picks

607
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 5: always get it no matter where they are, but he

608
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 5: was down there. He was starting to feel a little

609
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 5: bit more comfortable in his role and playing some good

610
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 5: basketball too, some nice highlights of his We're out there

611
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 5: and now that he's going to be gone for at

612
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 5: least this season is really about Killian Hayes, I mean,

613
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 5: the rookie's It's obviously very sad for him too, but

614
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 5: that injury, again, we haven't had a timetable on it,

615
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 5: but you expect he'll be back, certainly before Mark L.

616
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Speaker 5: Fults will be. So, yeah, all the best of Markel.

617
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 5: Hope he can come back and resurrect his career again.

618
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Do you believe that the Magic can continue their

619
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Speaker 3: hot start here with Caul Anthony a rookie point guard

620
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 3: getting Obviously a majority of these point guard minutes.

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Speaker 5: I would say no, because it is tough for a

622
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 5: rookie to sort of go into that situation and live

623
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 5: up to the expectations. But he has shown some highlights

624
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 5: and shown some pretty good you know, he's comfortable on

625
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 5: the team. But now the expectation, the minutes, the role,

626
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 5: the attention he's going to get is just going to

627
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 5: be so much bigger. So I do expect the Magic

628
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 5: to drop off.

629
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Speaker 3: A little bit.

630
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Speaker 5: But they've surprised me so far with their stuff. They've

631
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 5: been They've been good. Just a team that's sort of

632
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 5: flying under the radar a little bit like the Indiana Pacers.

633
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 5: So maybe they benefit a little bit from teams overlooking them. Perhaps,

634
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 5: you know, that might be one of those situations. So

635
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 5: but I think I mean, Cole Anthony certainly for a

636
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 5: lot of rookies, hasn't looked overwhelmed in the minutes that

637
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 5: he's played so far.

638
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Speaker 3: Trey, do you agree with that? Do you think the Magic?

639
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know even who they would go

640
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 3: and possibly try and get. They're going to get some

641
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 3: like disabled player exceptions here. I assume they'll have some

642
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: money to work with, but I can't think of anyone

643
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 3: off the top of my head that you're plugging in

644
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 3: there at least in a backup position.

645
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 4: But what do you think it's gonna be tough? Cole

646
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 4: Anthony I like him as a player. He looks like

647
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Speaker 4: he's going to be exciting, but like you're saying, he's

648
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 4: a rookie, he's shooting some pretty abysmal percentages right now,

649
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 4: and now he's going to be in an even bigger role.

650
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 4: But maybe this is a chance for Aaron Gordon to

651
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 4: step and be the playmaker that he's thought he is

652
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 4: throughout his career. They've been multiple times in his Orlando

653
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 4: career where he's kind of been a premier creator out

654
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 4: there from the perimeter. He fancies himself a point forward

655
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 4: at times. They're gonna need that. Now, They're going to

656
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 4: need somebody to create because Terrence ross iide like watching

657
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 4: him play. He's a really good six man. He can

658
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 4: get some buckets. But they need somebody who can make

659
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 4: plays for others because Buchavic more of a finisher than

660
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 4: a creator as well. So they got to figure out

661
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 4: a way to get the most out of Aaron Gordon

662
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 4: right now.

663
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 3: With Mark el Foltz going down yeah, I have a

664
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 3: feeling a lot of people might be selling Orlando Magic stock,

665
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 3: and not just because of the folks injury. But they've

666
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 3: had a pretty easy schedule. They're six and two, which

667
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 3: is which is awesome. They beat the Heat in their

668
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 3: opening game, Okay, nice quality win. Then they played the

669
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 3: Wizards twice, got both victories there. They beat okay, see

670
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 3: all right, twice. Excuse me, you know they played them twice,

671
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 3: did lose once, and then they played the Calves twice

672
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 3: and beat them twice. So really we're looking at like

673
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 3: the Wizards, the Calves and the Thunder. They played sixth

674
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 3: combined times. They lost a Philly in the mix there too,

675
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 3: So yeah, the schedule is obviously going to get a

676
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 3: little more difficult, and well, we'll see if the Magic

677
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: can continue. They're winning ways like one of these teams,

678
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: like leell As the team. But first the Celtics Rockie

679
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 3: Peayton Pritchards put back with two tenths of a second

680
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 3: capped wild finished. The Celtics held on to beat the

681
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: Heat one of seven one or five. Meanwhile, in the Garden,

682
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 3: Austin Rivers scored twenty three points, including fourteenth straight for

683
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 3: the next down the stretch leols Is, New York. Next

684
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Speaker 3: as they won their third street, they beat the Jazz

685
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: one twelve one hundred New York Is five and three. So, well,

686
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 3: what you got for you and everyone in the stream

687
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 3: team and listening Wednesday Night's bigger hero? Is it Prichard

688
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 3: son of a Pritchard man? Or is it Austin Rivers?

689
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,479
Speaker 3: What you got me? Gotta be Austin Rivers.

690
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 5: Did you see him just cooking the Jazz? The score

691
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 5: was tired at like ninety six with four minutes ago,

692
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 5: and then Austin Rivers just took over like he was

693
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Speaker 5: Michael Jordan in the garden. They're hitting those step back threes,

694
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 5: dancing around Rudy Gobert and then talking trash as well.

695
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Speaker 5: That's what I like about Austin Rivers, Like he's a

696
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 5: sort of guy who went to this situation. Talked about

697
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Speaker 5: this the other day and he was like, listen, you know,

698
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 5: the Knicks have been a bit of a joke, but

699
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Speaker 5: we're here to work hard, we're here to be professional.

700
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Speaker 5: And that's exactly what he's doing. He's backing up his

701
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 5: words by going out there and leading that team. He's

702
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Speaker 5: playing hard on defense, and then when the situations there,

703
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 5: he did not shy away from it.

704
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Speaker 3: Last night.

705
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Speaker 5: He wanted that moment and he backed it up by

706
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 5: hitting those four threes and it was just incredible to watch.

707
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 3: And then just he was.

708
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Speaker 5: Getting the chest bumps from his teammates. He was talking

709
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 5: trash because the Jazz this was an important game for

710
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 5: them to bounce back after their awful performance against Nettes,

711
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Speaker 5: and they did. In the first half, they looked like

712
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 5: they were in control of this game, and then it

713
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 5: came down to money time and Austin stepped up and

714
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Speaker 5: he just took over this performance. This was incredible to watch.

715
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Speaker 5: I love watching it. I love watching the Garden even

716
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Speaker 5: though there's no fans there, but Austin Rivers on that

717
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Speaker 5: big stage delivered and it was incredible.

718
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is where I'm pissed off. This is where

719
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 3: I hate COVID because I would love to be experiencing

720
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Speaker 3: this with msg packful of Knicks fans and Austin Rivers

721
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Speaker 3: hitting four to threes in the final four minutes. The

722
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Speaker 3: police would be going in scene. So I'm ronda that

723
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 3: the Knicks bench was going crazy. I know they're doing

724
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Speaker 3: their apartment. Can you imagine MSG. What's going on right

725
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 3: now with Randall and Quickly and Austin Rivers. But yeah,

726
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Speaker 3: he was he was a hero on Wednesday night. Can

727
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Speaker 3: you make a case for Pritchard TK.

728
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Speaker 4: No, no way. It was definitely Austin Rivers. The Knicks

729
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 4: are three and one since Austin Rivers came back, he's

730
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 4: been clutch. He's the sixth Man of the Year right now.

731
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Speaker 4: I think you would say I wouldn't be surprised if

732
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Speaker 4: they hang a number eight Jersey and the Rafters at

733
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Speaker 4: MSG once fans are allowed back. You got Austin Rivers,

734
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Speaker 4: you got j R. Smith, you got Latrelle Spreewell, Robin Lopez,

735
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Speaker 4: Mario Hezonia. We're talking Nicks legends here. The guy's been incredible.

736
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Speaker 4: They need somebody to play with the ball in his

737
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 4: hands and he's been able to do it. Randall as well,

738
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 4: has been great. As for the Bean Town Boys last night,

739
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 4: it was more like the Board Town Boys. This game

740
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 4: was all about the offensive rebound skeets. Yeah, Crayton Pritchard

741
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 4: obviously had the big tip to win things at the

742
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Speaker 4: end there, but also Jason Tatum had a tip right

743
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Speaker 4: at the end of the buzzer at the end of

744
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Speaker 4: the third quarter. Daniel Tice had a big tip in

745
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 4: with a minute left. Bam Adebayo had a big offensive

746
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Speaker 4: rebound that he kicked out to Goran Dragics for a

747
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Speaker 4: three with thirteen seconds left. If you're a fan of

748
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Speaker 4: rebound highlights, you gotta go back and watch this.

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Speaker 3: Game, Cobec and watch. Yes, yeah, Prichard is sneaking in

750
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: there and beating the buzzer. I mean, as well played.

751
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 5: They nearly blew that one the Celtics right like a

752
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 5: minute ten to go.

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Speaker 3: It was a weird game that one. Yeah, very very

754
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 3: weird game with the Celtics held on, got the victory

755
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 3: and the Heat Yeah, Heat are uh, you know, not

756
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: doing well in the standings right now. They can't like

757
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 3: they can't string together victories. I think they've alternated wins

758
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 3: and losses all season long. Someone have to fact check

759
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: me on that. But I don't think they've got a

760
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: winning streak put together yet. Although a streak is three

761
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: in a row. Didn't we from that one two? It

762
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Speaker 3: doesn't count, I think. But even in their case, they

763
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 3: don't have two in a row. Yeah, you're exactly right.

764
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Speaker 4: Skates lost the first game of the season, and then

765
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 4: it's been a switch switch, switch switch every time back

766
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 4: and guess what they got the Wizards on Saturday.

767
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 3: So it will likely continue to be the alternating switch up.

768
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 3: So and Beale will go for fifty and a loss.

769
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Speaker 3: Whether he will win, that'll probably be how it goes.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's a little what you got again. Let's

771
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: hear your answers. Tweet at us at no dinks, no dunks,

772
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Speaker 3: and no dinks no dunks. Think I've done that, befo

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Speaker 3: for or let us know in the stream team speaking

774
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Speaker 3: of dinks streaming, Let's take a break, though, we will

775
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 3: address some other games. I heard Penn and Teller also

776
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: had one hundred percent happiness guarantee. Task got his money

777
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: back that night. Who was that excited about the show? Gary?

778
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 3: I guess got his money back. I don't know if

779
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: Gary game to Task, but how that works? Do you

780
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 3: think Penn and Teller are like each other?

781
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Speaker 5: Well, one of the CAUs doesn't even speak, does he,

782
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 5: So they can't really fight with each other.

783
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: Nailed it, nailed it. I thought I saw something once,

784
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 3: like a headline that they were fighting or something, but

785
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: I know I don't even know if I just made

786
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 3: that up, but I don't have dreamed that. Now that

787
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: I think about it, Well, what do you think you

788
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: think they've ever fought? TK?

789
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 4: Definitely? Yeah, I mean which one talks? Which is the

790
00:33:53,880 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 4: one that actually talks and talker? Yeah, So I mean

791
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 4: I can see it going either way.

792
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: To be honest with you.

793
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 4: Penn being mad that Teller won't shut up or tell her,

794
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 4: being like, come on, man, give me something here for

795
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 4: once in our career.

796
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 3: Talk to me. Surely they've fought, but you would never

797
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 3: know it.

798
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 6: I just googled do they get along? And it basically

799
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 6: the one quote is we have never had a cuddly friendship.

800
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 6: It was a very cold, calculated relationship where we thought

801
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 6: we would do stuff together, and we do stuff better

802
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 6: together than we do stuff separately. So I don't think

803
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 6: they actually get along.

804
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 2: Wow.

805
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: So they just go out there kill it on the

806
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 3: Magic Show and then see you later, peace out, disappear.

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Speaker 6: It's hard to believe because at some points Penn is

808
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 6: whole like aiming a gun at Teller's head.

809
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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah.

810
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Speaker 5: What kind of thing I found found was funny about

811
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Speaker 5: this show is they sort of keep reminding us that,

812
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 5: like it's magic. Okay, so it's a trick. You're not

813
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 5: seeing what you think you say, you know, almost like

814
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 5: blowing the cover on his whole scheme there, you know,

815
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 5: like say like you're we're tricking you. Okay, so this

816
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 5: is not actually magic. We don't actually have like you know,

817
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 5: like when he does his like he puts his hands

818
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 5: in the fish tank and all of a sudden, like

819
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 5: twenty fish come out. He's like, it's not real, like

820
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:16,919
Speaker 5: as a trick.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's They had another television show where they

822
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Speaker 3: did exactly that and they show you they showed you

823
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Speaker 3: like how the trick was happening, or like magicians would

824
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Speaker 3: come on and try and stump down.

825
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's the one that's force when you're yeah,

826
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Speaker 5: that was cold. There's a guy right, he's got the

827
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 5: cube like this, I've still got it because once you

828
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Speaker 5: get hold of it, you can't make elbot and he

829
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 5: throws it like like oh anyway, he throws it over

830
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 5: his shoulder, he tries throwing it behind his back and

831
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 5: he catches it and it's solved, and it's like, wow,

832
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 5: that's incredible.

833
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 6: You know right now, you couldn't even do the trick.

834
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Speaker 6: Of throwing it over your shoulder from behind.

835
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Speaker 5: Hang on, hang on, let's here.

836
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Speaker 3: He picks it up and it's solved.

837
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 7: In Well, yeah, that's a trick. Maybe that's the trick.

838
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 7: I'm just catching it is the trick. And then on

839
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 7: no one's driver to know that it's not solved.

840
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 3: Okay, Well we've discussed a ton of the games already

841
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: from last night, but there were eleven on and there's

842
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 3: some other ones. I know you guys want to quickly address.

843
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 3: So you know it's as simple as that, Trey, is

844
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 3: there another game from last night that you had your

845
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 3: eye on or you had a big takeaway from.

846
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 4: Oh, you know, it's Skeets the Unstoppables, Eah was very

847
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 4: short lived.

848
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: I hate to say.

849
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 4: A huge games for Zach Levine and Kobe White against

850
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 4: the Kings last night. Uh, Kobe, like you mentioned, had

851
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 4: a career high. If I'm not mistaken, what do you

852
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 4: end up with?

853
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 3: Thirty six?

854
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get that's right here. Thirty six for

855
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 4: Kobe White, thirty two for Zach Levine. They were both great,

856
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 4: but the defense for the Bulls was not good enough.

857
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 4: Dearon Fox went out early in this game, Buddy, Heal

858
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 4: was struggling. This was right before a doubleheader of the

859
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 4: Bulls are gonna have against both of the Los Angeles teams,

860
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 4: but they just couldn't get enough stops. Basically at the

861
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 4: point of impact. Tyrese Halliburton was incredible. Fifteen points in

862
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter, making every single play. He looked like

863
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 4: the fastest guy out there. He looked like the smartest

864
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 4: guy out there. He hit a huge three from the

865
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 4: corner to really ice this game for the Kings. But

866
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 4: it wasn't just Tyrese Halliburton. Harrison Barnes was cooking Otto

867
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 4: Porter on the regular last night. Just off the dribble,

868
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 4: couple of pounds straight to the hoop and then he's

869
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 4: either dishingar or scoring it at the bucket. A great

870
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 4: start to the season for Harrison Barnes. And then with

871
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 4: Shawn Holmes and Sun Bags Marvin Bagley the third, we're

872
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 4: both pretty solid last night. You know, Marvin Bagley ended

873
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 4: up with twelve rebounds with Shawn Holmes ended up with

874
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,479
Speaker 4: twenty four points. Their effort, their energy was a game

875
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 4: changer for the Kings. They looked really good last night.

876
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 4: The Bulls I thought played hard, They played good enough

877
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 4: to win, but they weren't able to pull it out

878
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 4: because the Kings were just a little bit better. There

879
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 4: was no defense from Zach and Kobe despite the fact

880
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 4: that they were scoring offensively, and that was the problem

881
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 4: the Bigs. Biggs were taking a lot of blame last

882
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 4: night for the Bulls playing their drop coverage, but I thought,

883
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 4: like Billy Donovan said, it was more so on Zach Lavine,

884
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 4: Kobe White and the other perimeter players not being able

885
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 4: to keep the Kings out of the lane.

886
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is crazy, Like you said, with Fox going

887
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: out in this one, Yeah, you can understand struggling with

888
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 3: Fox trying to stay in front of him, but you're right,

889
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 3: he leaves and they still can't stop anybody out there

890
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: on the perimeter. Haliburton, Mine, God, I mean, you can

891
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 3: understand why everyone was confused why this guy slipped now,

892
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 3: like there's a lot of teams ahead of them.

893
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 4: He couldn't have stayed out for one more game, buddy,

894
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 4: Come on, we're talking about him being hurt last year,

895
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 4: but he or yesterday. Yeah, he looked like the rookie

896
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 4: of the year yesterday that he was the best player

897
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 4: on the court in the fourth quarter. I thought, and

898
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 4: you know that was a guy that the balls were

899
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 4: mocked to be taken too. Yeah, it's not a great game.

900
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 4: Patrick Williams has been pretty solid this season. I do

901
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 4: like his future. Maybe he's another Fattius Young, maybe he

902
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,959
Speaker 4: gets even better than that. But Halliburton, he was bald. Yeah,

903
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 4: fifteen points six or seven, shooting four boards, two steals,

904
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 4: a block, and an assists in no turnovers in the

905
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 4: quarter in the fourth quarter.

906
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 5: I mean, it's crazy, sir, go aheadly, Well, the question

907
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 5: is how the King's gonna mess it up then with

908
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 5: halibur now there, because it's like these things don't usually

909
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 5: fall into their lap, you know. Then they want to

910
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 5: usually you know, blow it somehow or keep him on

911
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 5: the bench and he can't get out of there. They

912
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 5: tried him away and he starts somewhere. So maybe they'll

913
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 5: get this one, right Who knows.

914
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 3: I would hope. So they're four and two when he

915
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: plays in zero and two right now when he's out

916
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 3: and yeah, we talked a little bit on beach Step

917
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 3: and actually early Rookie of the Year front runners, and

918
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 3: we talked to Bill Wiseman and Edwards and Ball and

919
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 3: a couple of the other guys. And you know, we

920
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 3: said Halliburton would probably maybe be at the top of

921
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 3: the list if he had missed some of these games.

922
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,479
Speaker 3: And at the end of it all, if you miss

923
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 3: a handful of games, it is not going to matter.

924
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you can still win Rookie of the Year

925
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: of course, you know, missing five ten games, heck twelve

926
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 3: and being almost want it, missing like what forty eight

927
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 3: or something like that, fifty eighth you got close. But

928
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 3: Haliburton might be a Brogden like guy where just like

929
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 3: this guy just does everything. This guy's just solid as

930
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 3: a rock. Because he's instrumental right now in King's victories.

931
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 3: He makes him a lot more fun to watch too.

932
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 3: Holy crap, so great, great victory there from the King's

933
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 3: tough loss for your unstoppables who are stoppable it turns out.

934
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 3: And yeah, two tough games coming up here now with

935
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 3: both LA hopefully they just sort of like, don't care.

936
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: Maybe the Lakers will get bitten the buddy, Oh the

937
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 3: balls are going to get one in La your own tea. Yeah,

938
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 3: I can see that. Lee is another game that we

939
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: haven't touched on that you want to address.

940
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 5: Well, I'm going to the new Orleans Oklahoma City game. Now,

941
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 5: the Pearls lost this one, But I really just want

942
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 5: to address the fact that Steven Adams registered a triple

943
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 5: double last night with five field goal attempts. It was

944
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 5: the classic Jason Kid triple double. Ten points, ten assists,

945
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 5: eleven rebounds.

946
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: Wow.

947
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 5: Now I'm gonna have a little bit of fun here

948
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 5: with my new Zealand friends and say, I think this

949
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 5: might be the greatest sporting achievement and Zealands history because

950
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 5: we used to poke fun at Kiwi's because their highest

951
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 5: paid athlete used to be Tiger Woods caddy Steve Williams.

952
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 5: I don't remember old Steve. Now Steven Adams has probably

953
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 5: overtaken him in career earnings now because he's going that big,

954
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 5: big couple of deals there. But I mean we talk

955
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 5: about unlikely guys to go for fifty what sort of

956
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 5: how deep would we have had to have gone to

957
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 5: pick Steven.

958
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 3: Adams register triple double?

959
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, you talk about like we do

960
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 5: we overlook fifty four games as well as like, oh

961
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 5: they're not especially well. What about a Steven Adams triple double?

962
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 5: I mean, who's I can't think of anyone more unlikely

963
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 5: in NBA history, who's got who's registered at Triple dumble.

964
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 5: Sometimes at the end of the season, well sometimes at

965
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 5: the end of the season, you know, those those games

966
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 5: that need just garbage games, some guy will come out

967
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 5: and do it when no one's really paying attention, danzi

968
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 5: Uzoyah exactly. But that was that was like game seventy

969
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 5: five of the season or whever. This was like a

970
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 5: you know, in a game that was so close the

971
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 5: Pelicans lose there by points. So I just I mean,

972
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 5: that was just an incredible achievement there from Stevie. His

973
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 5: career high, I think and assists pride of this game

974
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 5: was six.

975
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 3: That's right. I just looked it up. He had a

976
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 3: game last year he had six assists, but prior to

977
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 3: that it was always yeah, five or four or even.

978
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 5: And it was the points that he got last as

979
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 5: well of that triple double. You know, he had the

980
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 5: eight because if he'd got if he'd finished two points

981
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 5: or a point short of a triple double, that would

982
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 5: have just been just just devastating there. But yeah, crazy

983
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 5: stuff there, crazy stuff. I'm sure a few of my

984
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 5: New Zealand friends will start saying, what are you talking about?

985
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to say there are other notable

986
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 3: you know Kiwi athletes who have had success.

987
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:47,479
Speaker 5: Well, their biggest sporting accomplishment is winning the Rugby Union

988
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 5: World Cup, which they've won a couple of times. I've

989
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 5: also choked a couple of times as well, blown it

990
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 5: but you just.

991
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 3: Can't help yourself.

992
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 5: And they won the America's Cup, you know, the yachting. Yeah,

993
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 5: does anyone really care about that? Not really Australia one

994
00:42:58,480 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 5: of their nineteen.

995
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 3: Eighty three Yeah, we haven't wanted seaside, I think so,

996
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: I know my kids, But yeah, that that was so.

997
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 5: I saw funny how the highest Pike New Zealand athlete

998
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 5: is Ti Woods caddy.

999
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 3: Do you consider a caddie an athlete? Well, of a joke,

1000
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 3: but yeah, bags are heavy. Yeah, I mean I'm just

1001
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 3: starting to think about it. I was like, why not,

1002
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, learning some things here. Yeah, you're gonna

1003
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 3: hear from the Kiwis for sure. But huge game from

1004
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 3: Adams in the lost. That was a crazy ending to

1005
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 3: that one too, some pretty controversial calls and that was

1006
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 3: a weird, weird victory for Okay see in the end,

1007
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 3: but that was I guess that was a Steven Adams

1008
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 3: revenge game, right.

1009
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 5: Yeah in some ways, yeah, sure.

1010
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 3: Sure, the revenge triple double. All right, I'm glad we

1011
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 3: snuck those in there. We also snuck in a couple

1012
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 3: of weggies. Last night, guys, you had two more first

1013
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 3: one heat Celtics. We had a precious weggie. Oh man,

1014
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 3: rash is a little block leggie. And then later on

1015
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: it was the Wizard's sixers game and it's Bradley Beal. Yeah.

1016
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: Not only does the guy go for sixty, he also

1017
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 3: sticks a weggie early in the third quarter. So we

1018
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 3: are up to six on this season. Not a bad

1019
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 3: little start. Not a bad little start. How many how

1020
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 3: many weeks in? Are we in? Two and a half?

1021
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 3: Three weeks? And this is the third week.

1022
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 4: People, yesterday on Twitter we're saying twenty twenty one year

1023
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 4: of the weggie.

1024
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 3: Maybe they're back. I think so. I think so, And

1025
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 3: I think Task said it on What You Need to Know.

1026
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: Schuman can fact check this. But Bradley Beal's got to

1027
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 3: be the first player in NBA history to go for

1028
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 3: sixty and stick a weggie in the same game.

1029
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 5: I think so.

1030
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it would have been great when he said,

1031
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 3: like I'm mad I'm pissed off we lost, but you

1032
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 3: know what, I did get a weggie, so I'm not

1033
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 3: that worse. That incredible. So yeah, we're up to six,

1034
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 3: So keep sending us in weggies that we mayn't miss.

1035
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 3: I know you guys are doing a fantastic job on

1036
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 3: Instagram and Twitter just at no dunks ink and it

1037
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 3: really helps let us know where game will happened. But

1038
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 3: give us a time frame like when and third quarter

1039
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 3: or when in the second whenever, so you can easily

1040
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 3: find it and get it up just in case we're

1041
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 3: not watching that particular game. All right, you gotta take

1042
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 3: one more bread. But we still got tweeted the night Lee.

1043
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 3: You're the owner for tweeting the night.

1044
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: Tweet over night? Wow, Twitter, where do you go?

1045
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 3: Lely?

1046
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 5: So I have a tweet that's accompanied by a video

1047
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 5: here and it came from Josh Kern last night. Okay,

1048
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 5: and here's the video before the Raptors and the Sun's game,

1049
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 5: and it's Fred van Vliek and Stanley Johnson having a

1050
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 5: little wager. Now, Fred from half court knocks it in

1051
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 5: and look at Pascal comes over here to sort of

1052
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 5: congratulate that.

1053
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: Look a Fred, look at the cash counting thing, like, oh, yeah,

1054
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 3: what do you think they're betting on something like that?

1055
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 5: I mean, you take a thousand bucks, five thousand bucks,

1056
00:45:58,719 --> 00:45:59,439
Speaker 5: one hundred bucks?

1057
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, my gut, my gut says one hundred bucks.

1058
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean it's from half court. I mean

1059
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: that's not he's gonna hit that. I don't know what

1060
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: three out of ten times? Maybe, I don't know. I

1061
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 3: mean that's the thing.

1062
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 5: It's like Fred's got paid, so he's got money to

1063
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 5: burn these days. So maybe he's like, all right, Stanley,

1064
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 5: Stanley doesn't know as much like he's a chance to

1065
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 5: had your salary a little bit here, maybe let's just

1066
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 5: have five grand.

1067
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 3: But I just love the way that Fred just stood

1068
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 3: there like that really now see, it could have been

1069
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 3: one of those situations where you just go, you know,

1070
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 3: a hundred bucks if I make it, and then the

1071
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 3: guy just says yeah, like not thinking he's gonna make it,

1072
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 3: Like there's no like if I miss, I also give

1073
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 3: you one hundred dollars. Yeah, sometimes get that, man, it's possible.

1074
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 3: But wow, what a shot. Family Raptors lost too. We

1075
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: didn't even address that. Yeah, they played better, they played better,

1076
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 3: but the Sons couldn't miss from three. They hit a

1077
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 3: ton of threes. But what do you think the bet

1078
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 3: was there?

1079
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 4: TK, I'm guessing over I thought dollars twenty five hundred.

1080
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 3: Maybe. I mean, you're right, Lee.

1081
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 4: Stanley Johnson doesn't make a lot compared to Fred van Vleet,

1082
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 4: but he makes three point eight million dollars this year.

1083
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 4: Betting a thousand bucks is nothing, and they're gonna put

1084
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 4: something on the line. It's not gonna be just that. Hey,

1085
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 4: if you make it, I'll pay you. If not, we'll

1086
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 4: let it slide. Come on, man, these guys are competitive.

1087
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 3: Of course.

1088
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 4: Fred van Bleet's out there trying to make it tough

1089
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 4: on Stanley Johnson, trying to make Stanley Johnson think I'm I.

1090
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 3: Gonna be able to bite youa potlet after this.

1091
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah, he will be able to. But

1092
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 4: Fred Shirley is betting on himself. Literally, that's his slogan, right,

1093
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 4: bet on yourself. I'm gonna make this from half court

1094
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 4: and then you're gonna pay me. You don't want to

1095
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 4: go against Fred van Bleet in a contest like that.

1096
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 4: He wears twenty three. He's from Illinois, you know how

1097
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 4: it goes thousand bucks.

1098
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are talking me into it now, I

1099
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 3: mean because I'm like thinking, yeah, a thousand bucks to

1100
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 3: them is like one hundred bucks to everybody else, like

1101
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 3: maybe actually not even tad bucks. Yeah yeah, right.

1102
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 4: But it's also from Robbie Griffy on the stream team

1103
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 4: who says Gary Payton be Brent Barry a grand to

1104
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 4: do a dance in the three point contest, and that

1105
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 4: was thirty years ago, twenty years ago whatever was.

1106
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna say that.

1107
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 5: Well, it's the brag and the flex more so than

1108
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 5: the money, I think, isn't it just like, yeah, I

1109
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 5: told you, I told you I was gonna knock this in,

1110
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 5: and now I'm just gonna like rub it into your face.

1111
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 5: He by by celebrating dancing it up.

1112
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean. Anytime I play cards or any sort

1113
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 3: of board game and there's a little bit of money

1114
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 3: on the line, it's not I'm not pumped to win

1115
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 3: the ten dollars from my buddy Grish. I'm just pumped

1116
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 3: because I beat my buddy Grish. He's not going to

1117
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: hear the end of it. Yeah, it's like the money

1118
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 3: makes it a little more exciting. But it's like we

1119
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 3: just keep handing back the same ten dollars. It just

1120
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 3: makes it a little bit more fun, but it's yeah,

1121
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 3: it's beating your your friend or your teammate and something

1122
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 3: like that. Well, Lee, here's the question for you then,

1123
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 3: how much? How much would you bet on yourself to

1124
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 3: hit that shot that Van Vleet hit right there? Like

1125
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 3: you and I right now? You throw it out there?

1126
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 3: Would you? What would you say?

1127
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 5: What could I afford to lose versus? How much would

1128
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 5: be worth that victory? I would go against you. I

1129
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 5: would say a hundred bucks, one hundred bucks.

1130
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 3: Hundred bucks? Yeah, wow, well I'll take that back, all right,

1131
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: you get one shot to hit that. I'll take that

1132
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 3: bet any of the other week, all right, he shot, man,

1133
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 3: I wouldn't even be upset if you hit it. I'll

1134
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 3: give you two hundred dollars there. Oh oh yeah, here

1135
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 3: we go. Here we go regulation size court. We're not

1136
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 3: playing your little rinky dinky backyard court.

1137
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 5: Honestly, it's easy though, on a regular sized hoop, because

1138
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 5: that rinky dink thing that I've got a man, it's

1139
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 5: it doesn't give you any favors if you don't.

1140
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 3: Swich me you don't have one of those ones that

1141
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 3: you just hit the backboard anywhere in that thing.

1142
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess it does sort of. When it hits

1143
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 5: the backboard, it sort of just stops dead there. But

1144
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 5: hitting the rim, it just clunks off unless you unless

1145
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 5: you're swishing it. Basically, you got mesh on your net.

1146
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 5: You got mesh right, Oh yeah, of course, stupid horse.

1147
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, well do you take so many shots? I thought

1148
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 3: that mesh should be like all free to hanging off.

1149
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's fine, it's great, but I can't shoot on

1150
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 5: a on a meshless, on a mentionless hoop. I hate

1151
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 5: playing outside basketball outdoor indoor basketball as well. Without a net.

1152
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 5: It's just you can't play.

1153
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 3: Well, that's the that's the debate we you know, you

1154
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 3: see going around Instagram or Twitter every once in a while,

1155
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 3: what's worse, double rim or the hoop with no uh

1156
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 3: no mesh on it?

1157
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 5: No mesh for sure. I still can't believe since we

1158
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 5: moved here to Atlanta, the outdoor courts have mesh nets.

1159
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 5: Like anywhere else I've played in the world, they put

1160
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 5: up the net once and once it breaks, that's it.

1161
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 5: No one ever replaces it. But here you know where

1162
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 5: you play. Well, you guys have played up there and

1163
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 5: underwood a few times. When it breaks, even when it's

1164
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 5: only like one or two of those strings are broken,

1165
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 5: they replace the whole thing, which is awesome.

1166
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what you want.

1167
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 5: That's what you want your tax dollars to go to.

1168
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 3: You. Unfortunately, we have no rims up right now in

1169
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 3: most places in this city, which fair enough, but yeah,

1170
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 3: what's the answer for that one? TK Double rims are

1171
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 3: no mesh, which what would you prefer to play on?

1172
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 4: I I would prefer to play on double rims. I

1173
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 4: I hate playing like Leon on a rim with no

1174
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 4: net because when you're playing with me, I'm not worried

1175
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 4: about the side jumper anyways. I'm gonna be bricking away

1176
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 4: from outside regardless. I'd rather I'd rather at least know

1177
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 4: it goes in. When I'm shooting a layup inside, you know,

1178
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 4: I'm shooting shots from four to six feet away, not

1179
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 4: twenty four to six like my mate Lee out there.

1180
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's hear from you guys with that one.

1181
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 3: I always love that question. Double rim sucked too, don't

1182
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 3: get me wrong. Yeah, for sure, I hate playing on

1183
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 3: a net with no mesh too. But God, sometimes like

1184
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 3: you show up at that court and like, no, it's

1185
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 3: just like makes for the longest games ever. Man, It's

1186
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 3: like the double rims is not kind when there's already

1187
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 3: a little wind outside whatever weird ball you're playing with, Oh,

1188
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 3: could be some long games out there.

1189
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 4: It's not just the double rim that's the problem too.

1190
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 4: It's when they have the double rim. It's always on

1191
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 4: a metal backboard, right, so there's like no touch. I'm

1192
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 4: a guy who uses the glass a lot, and when

1193
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 4: the glass is made of metal, I think rockets off there.

1194
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 4: And then you're trying to make it into that double rim.

1195
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 4: What a bag of beans?

1196
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, those are so bad. Sometimes you're like, if

1197
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 3: you're on a fast break, lay up, like, don't even

1198
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 3: go off the glass, Like just lay it up over

1199
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 3: the rim, over the double room if you can, because

1200
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 3: you're right, I think the skyrockets off that thing. All right.

1201
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 3: Tonight's well be fortunight's pick them, pick them. Results from

1202
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 3: last night just quickly. I was the only one to

1203
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 3: take the Clippers to win by five or more. They

1204
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 3: pulled it out. Ellie See gets the victory four and

1205
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 3: me I'm five and four everybody else took the Warriors

1206
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 3: to cover the somewhat small spread. They nearly did, but

1207
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 3: they didn't. So that's a loss for Lee and Trey

1208
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 3: and task Tass and Lee four and five. Tray your

1209
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 3: three and six again. I'm five and four. Tonight's pick

1210
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 3: them game Philly Nets. Of course, no KD. We'll see

1211
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 3: what Philly does with some of their guys in a

1212
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 3: back to back situation. Philly is favored by two and

1213
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 3: a half on the road, take that into account. I'll

1214
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 3: go first. I'm taking Philly. I'm gonna keep running with

1215
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 3: this team looking damn good. Yeah, well, I'm excited to

1216
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 3: see if both are playing Jared Allen versus Jowell and Bei.

1217
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 3: It could be a nice little matchup inside of those

1218
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 3: two bigs. But I'll go Philly to keep up this

1219
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 3: hot streak, this hot start to cover a win by

1220
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 3: three or more. Who do you got lead?

1221
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Philly as well. This is

1222
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 5: a real tough potential game for them, even though Kevin

1223
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 5: Durant isn't out, because kry Ivan can still go it.

1224
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 5: They didn't get it for you, but little concerned to

1225
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 5: bet the Nets defense, So I think Philadelphia has got enough,

1226
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 5: even though, as you say back to back, I wonder

1227
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 5: if everyone will play I think little enough, though I

1228
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 5: still believe a little more in Philadelphia right now, Tray,

1229
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 5: I'm going with.

1230
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 4: The Sixers as well. They are playing pretty well right now.

1231
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 4: Tobias Harris also is playing well. So even if somebody

1232
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 4: like embiad sits doc Revers has done a good job

1233
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 4: getting the best out at Tobias Harris, no surprise, give

1234
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 4: me the Sixers for now, but I would not be

1235
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 4: surprised Kyrie Irving fifty tonight.

1236
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 3: We just talked about little guards can give the Sixers.

1237
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 3: Probably true. Let's see Kyrie.

1238
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 4: He was balling the last time we saw him playing,

1239
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 4: so he's able to have a couple of twenty five

1240
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 4: point halfs.

1241
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 3: It adds up, it does mass checks out. All right,

1242
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 3: we all have Philly. Let's here who tasts has hi everyone?

1243
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 3: I'll take the nets.

1244
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 6: I think they're better than their record, and I don't

1245
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 6: think they're going under five hundred again against a tired

1246
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 6: Sixers team.

1247
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 3: Okay to us, the only one taking Brooklyn. He gets

1248
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 3: it's the points plus two and a half. Philly has

1249
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 3: to win by three for Lee and Trey and myself

1250
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 3: to pick up the w five games on tonight a

1251
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 3: little more manageable than the eleven there on a Wednesdanight.

1252
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 3: Sixers nets is the first one on TNT. MAVs Nuggets

1253
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 3: is the second one. Could have some scoring in that one.

1254
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 3: Also got Cavs, Grizzlies, Spurs, Lakers, and then the Wolves

1255
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,479
Speaker 3: and Blazers. Actually a lot of late games on tonight lately,

1256
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,320
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1257
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Speaker 3: I assume both. Well, you're gonna be up all night

1258
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1259
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