Speaker 1: M Brian Brons, Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones, and you
Speaker 1: are looking live at Ford Center at the Star in Prescote, Texas.
Speaker 1: And this is talking Cowboys Bill Jones along with Mickey
Speaker 1: Spagnola right here and the what a lot of people
Speaker 1: consider the better half for the four sous and the
Speaker 1: Lone Star Emmy Award winning Rob Phillips on hand as
Speaker 1: we are back at the Star. First off, congratulations Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: Kent Garrison, Derek Eagleton, the entire Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: team for yet another bonanza last night. Thank you Bill.
Speaker 1: That's a long intro. Now, lone Star Emmy winning Rob
Speaker 1: Philip is that every day, every day. Okay, that's the
Speaker 1: way you want to be. No, no, no, no no, no.
Speaker 1: Appreciate that. Appreciate that We should allow him to give
Speaker 1: his acceptance speech that he got charted yesterday. What happened?
Speaker 1: Knt handed it off to me and they have a
Speaker 1: timer there for twenty seconds and literally it sets zero
Speaker 1: when he handed it off to me, and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: that's about it, thank you, good night. That's that's the
Speaker 1: best guy to acceptance to you. Yeah, So Kent went
Speaker 1: on and on. He did not No, he only give
Speaker 1: you twenty seconds, so he used eighteen. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a fun night though, a lot of fun. Congrats to
Speaker 1: our entire crew. Yes, yeah, and Brian understand you didn't
Speaker 1: make it there, but you would like to pass along crew. Absolutely, no,
Speaker 1: this is you're absolutely this great crew we work with
Speaker 1: at Dallas Cowboys dot Com. A lot of talented people
Speaker 1: that are involved in these uh projects. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: it's great that my friend, our friend to all us,
Speaker 1: Amber Garcia one for football analysts and four years ago
Speaker 1: she said in her speech, she goes, she didn't know
Speaker 1: anything about football. So it just shows you, though, if
Speaker 1: you're willing to take some chances, move on, you know,
Speaker 1: and do some things in your life, you can you
Speaker 1: can make accomplishments. And she did a great job in
Speaker 1: that and have a mentor like Brian brought us. Thank
Speaker 1: you appreciate that. That's right, Mickey, how many of those
Speaker 1: of you? One I came in second last year? Okay,
Speaker 1: don't worry, Mickelos to a basketball guy, Yes, last year, Buddy,
Speaker 1: John Radigan be oh okay, all right, all right, So
Speaker 1: we are back at the Star in Frisco. We're over
Speaker 1: jet lag. Everyone's past the jet lag and how many
Speaker 1: nights on the road was it for y'all? Twenty five
Speaker 1: counting but twenty five. Yeah, it's nice to be back.
Speaker 1: You're right in a good atmosphere for us to practice,
Speaker 1: the fans here for there's a great place, uh to
Speaker 1: to have a practice. It's indoors that kind of Again,
Speaker 1: it goes back to what we saw an ox start.
Speaker 1: You don't have to survive the practice in places like this,
Speaker 1: you could focus on getting better, doing the right things
Speaker 1: and not having to deal with the heat and humidity.
Speaker 1: So good things for the players to be indorsed this
Speaker 1: beautiful facility. Yeah, what if you had to practice in
Speaker 1: Hawaii for two weeks in that for the game was Saturday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was pretty hot, wasn't it. Well it wasn't Austin
Speaker 1: hot though it was it which falls falls. It wasn't
Speaker 1: quite that. I don't know. It was ninety eight degrees
Speaker 1: on the field, like the real temperature was eighty nine,
Speaker 1: but it felt like a hundred. Yeah, because because you
Speaker 1: were down on that field, we were we were tallowing
Speaker 1: off at every break, and so we are kicking off.
Speaker 1: Football is back here at the training camp at the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco, and yes, you are looking live at
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott down on the field. It is free and
Speaker 1: open to the public, not only today with practice just
Speaker 1: now getting started. The team's just the team just arrived
Speaker 1: on the field moments ago and they're stretching and doing
Speaker 1: their thing, get ready for the practice and which goes
Speaker 1: a couple of hours here and then it will continue.
Speaker 1: Camp will continue on Wednesday and Thursday as well. There's
Speaker 1: activities going on on Tostito's Championship Plaza outside Forward Center,
Speaker 1: and so it's a great opportunity for you here here
Speaker 1: on Talking Cowboys to take a look at some of
Speaker 1: the things going on. The actual practice is scheduled to
Speaker 1: start at eleven fifteen. I think they had an opening
Speaker 1: ceremony earlier. We were with Jason Garrett in his press conference,
Speaker 1: so we didn't get to see that. But the actual
Speaker 1: practice eleven fifteen, and when I showed up here at
Speaker 1: about nine quarter to nine, people were robably pulling into
Speaker 1: the parking lot. Yeah, to tend this thing. It looks
Speaker 1: like a good crowd shaping up here. And for fans
Speaker 1: that have been paying attention to camp in Oxnard, you're
Speaker 1: getting a couple familiar faces back today. It looks like
Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford and there is that the law Law the
Speaker 1: law Tank, Lawrence will be back doing something in practice today.
Speaker 1: Looks like they're going to activate both both of those
Speaker 1: guys from Active Pup and Sean Lee sounds like he'll
Speaker 1: be out there too, doing something, coming back from a
Speaker 1: little bit of a nice brain that he hading in Oxnard. Mickey,
Speaker 1: you saw Sean Lee yesterday. Yes, Sean Lee was working
Speaker 1: out and doing his rehab and his helmet and pads
Speaker 1: outside outside and outside it was more than ninety eight
Speaker 1: degree heat. Yes, absolutely, And we are proud to report
Speaker 1: that the new field looks like it's in place and
Speaker 1: ready to go right and it's green too, all right,
Speaker 1: just in time for practice back here. They must have
Speaker 1: spent a lot of money watering that field. That's all
Speaker 1: I got there, as other people don't water their yards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what though. Ye again, I'm really happy
Speaker 1: that we have this opportunity to have our show on.
Speaker 1: It's not opt at all. I mean, this is little moment,
Speaker 1: first times that we've been able to do this, but
Speaker 1: you know, to be able to watch practice and talk
Speaker 1: about it a little bit looks like we're gonna get
Speaker 1: into a little bit of what they call us like
Speaker 1: they really like a will walk through part, but it's
Speaker 1: you'll see some spirited stuff going on here. These are
Speaker 1: some plays that they're gonna run that you'll see in
Speaker 1: practice during team periods and stuff. So this is kind
Speaker 1: of a pre practice to the practice of them going
Speaker 1: through some place here. Yeah, and it gives fans an
Speaker 1: idea of who's lining up where, you know, because we
Speaker 1: talk about it on the show. But other than Blue White,
Speaker 1: there really hasn't been a lot of that visibility. Training
Speaker 1: Camp live a little bit of that right in Oxnard.
Speaker 1: So here here, here's how badly DeMarcus Lawrence was chomping
Speaker 1: at the bit to get out there. So this is
Speaker 1: kind of the practice for the practice, right and Lawrence
Speaker 1: Armstrong went out there as he normally did in all
Speaker 1: the practices in training camp at left defensive end. And
Speaker 1: Lawrence went out there and just pushed them away and goes,
Speaker 1: I'm in there. You go, number number fifties out there too, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And then Lyle Collins had to shake hands with DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence like, oh, hey, where have you been? I have
Speaker 1: now and I got glad to see you out there,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it is good to see him put on
Speaker 1: the shoulder pads, go out there and kind of go
Speaker 1: through this a little bit, get an idea, you know,
Speaker 1: not kick some of the rust off himself, but you
Speaker 1: know he's going to be ready to play. We've been
Speaker 1: watching him and yeah, Oxnard and there. I mean, you
Speaker 1: talk about guys that have been working hard. It's not
Speaker 1: like these guys that are injured to just over there
Speaker 1: drinking gatorade and hanging out with us. They're over there working.
Speaker 1: Brit Brown, the wait staff to strength staff. They've done
Speaker 1: a great job with these guys. So it's a reason
Speaker 1: why these guys have an opportune to potentially play in
Speaker 1: that opening game. Mickey's been saying it. He's he's been
Speaker 1: well on track to be back in the fact that
Speaker 1: it's August twentieth and he's back tank practicing. I don't
Speaker 1: think there's, like Brian said, there's any question about his
Speaker 1: availability for September eighth, barring some kind of setback. He
Speaker 1: seems like he's good to go. I would think he's
Speaker 1: right on schedule exactly how they mapped it out. They
Speaker 1: did a great job with that and all player and
Speaker 1: the staff. It also looks like Tyrone Crawford is out
Speaker 1: there on the Is that him on the yeah, the
Speaker 1: right defensive end. That's the other thing we've been talking
Speaker 1: about that where exactly is he gonna no, no, he
Speaker 1: to be rob He's the starter at right defensive Even
Speaker 1: when they got Robert Quinn, I felt like that they
Speaker 1: were still going to go with this combination and then
Speaker 1: use Quinn as a situational rusher and maybe even kick
Speaker 1: Crawford inside at tackle to go with MALIEK. Collins. I mean,
Speaker 1: you have to think about two the human log in
Speaker 1: there as well. Those two guys inside, Collins and Woods
Speaker 1: had been a force. They have these practices. They've been
Speaker 1: a nice job. And the other thing we've been seeing
Speaker 1: in practice when the first team goes to the nickel
Speaker 1: of Christian Covington comes in at one of the defensive
Speaker 1: tackle spots as uh, he just did right there when
Speaker 1: they went to nickels. So they keep an eye on
Speaker 1: this guy number ninety five. They really like him. The
Speaker 1: other thing, when you were talking about how hard those
Speaker 1: guys were working in their rehab, I was telling the
Speaker 1: guys this morning on the fan I go, they're chomping
Speaker 1: on the bit to get out here and get away
Speaker 1: from Britt Brown. Yeah, he's because he will wear them up.
Speaker 1: He's as easy he's here to that. Exactly right, exactly right. Though,
Speaker 1: you saw the offensive line. You got Cam Fleming working
Speaker 1: at left tackle, and of course Xavier sua Philo is
Speaker 1: at right guard as Tyrn Smith and Zach Martin out
Speaker 1: of practice today. Yeah, and sua Philo has been a
Speaker 1: guy that Yeah, I don't know how you everybody feels
Speaker 1: here in the booth about him is I felt like
Speaker 1: that he was one of those bubble players coming in
Speaker 1: to training camp, and now with some of the injuries
Speaker 1: and things they've happened, he's played pretty well. He's played
Speaker 1: he's ear his varsity letter jacket already. In all the
Speaker 1: preseason snaps, he's taken seventies. Yeah, every game he's taken.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's a shame that Connor McGovern did
Speaker 1: not get those opportunities. It had been a great chance
Speaker 1: for him. But sua Philo has shown that his ability
Speaker 1: to hang in there and survive and be just good
Speaker 1: enough is probably gonna get him on this football That's
Speaker 1: another update from Jason Garrett this morning McGovern their third
Speaker 1: round pick with the pectoral strain still not ready to practice,
Speaker 1: don't have a firm timetable and when that's gonna be.
Speaker 1: So it makes a guy I likes to a feel
Speaker 1: a little more about I mean, think about it. This
Speaker 1: is a guy that started several games for them last
Speaker 1: year until Connor Williams kind of retook that left guard spot.
Speaker 1: I'm with you at this point. I think his depth
Speaker 1: and experience is valuable for this team. As they have
Speaker 1: to make that fifty three man roster decision coming up here,
Speaker 1: they might go a little lighter at offensive line than
Speaker 1: they I think they're gonna carry more defensive linemen and
Speaker 1: less offensive linemen. So it might be eight nine maybe.
Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of what they're kind of playing
Speaker 1: with right now. You just kind of, well, I just
Speaker 1: sucked Win through his teeth there when I said the
Speaker 1: word eight. I did just because you've got I mean,
Speaker 1: they're not they say they're not worried about Tyrn Smith,
Speaker 1: but he didn't make the trip to Hawaii because you
Speaker 1: know that back has bothered him in the past. You've
Speaker 1: got two Pro Bowl linemen with Zach as well Bill
Speaker 1: with back issues, So I wonder, I mean, I might
Speaker 1: think about going a little heavy, but you're right, there's
Speaker 1: so much young talent on the defensive line. You gotta
Speaker 1: make some decisions and real quick. We gotta get to
Speaker 1: a break with Connor McGovern now as we get deeper
Speaker 1: into this thing, and they potential for i R for him, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and to keep keep in mind, if he was to
Speaker 1: go on I R with a chance to return at
Speaker 1: some point this season, he has to be on that
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster one day. Yeah, right right, the
Speaker 1: final cut down here gas last year, and yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they're leaning towards keeping him on the fifty three.
Speaker 1: They run him practicing from what I've been told, So
Speaker 1: both he and Luke Gifford have a good chance of
Speaker 1: being on the fifty three. You though they probably won't be.
Speaker 1: So if that's the case, that's nine offensive lineman right away,
Speaker 1: and then the tenth one would be a guy if
Speaker 1: you put ten on, it would be a developmental type
Speaker 1: type player. Okay, We're going to continue with more talking
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Speaker 1: talking Cowboys at Cowboys Practice. The Return of Football that
Speaker 1: a Star in Briscoe, where at Ports Center built Jols, Vickey, Spagnola,
Speaker 1: Rock Phillips and Bryan brought us as a team starts
Speaker 1: the stretched portion of practice right now. It's and open
Speaker 1: to the public. It'll be open also tomorrow and Thursday.
Speaker 1: Of course, the Cowboys play the Houston Texans at AT
Speaker 1: and T Stadium on Saturday night at his six o'clock kickoff,
Speaker 1: and then back here. Final two practices of training camp
Speaker 1: on Monday and Tuesday open to the public as well.
Speaker 1: All right, but while the team is stretching out here,
Speaker 1: one item making news, of course, is the comment from
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones after the game in at a Lohaus stadium
Speaker 1: looking Mickey's face. Zeke who Jason Witton on CBS eleven
Speaker 1: by the way last night, and some very interesting comments
Speaker 1: about that after the agent what said that they were
Speaker 1: upset about what Jerry had said, and Jason laughed it
Speaker 1: off and said he first off, he said it was
Speaker 1: he thought it was a brilliant comment. But but he
Speaker 1: laughed it off and said, there is no way in
Speaker 1: the world that Zeke is bothered by that comment. If
Speaker 1: you know the whole context of the way it was,
Speaker 1: I would imagine he was the first one to laugh,
Speaker 1: exactly right and right, So it was a joke. Can
Speaker 1: we not joke around? Think about this? His agent, Rocky Arseno,
Speaker 1: has not said anything during this whole process, and then
Speaker 1: he chose that moment to speak up and text seriously, Actually,
Speaker 1: Clarence Hill was the first one to laugh, and that's
Speaker 1: the hardest I've ever seen Clarence laugh and that's saying something. Um.
Speaker 1: I think somebody posted the full context of Jerry's answer,
Speaker 1: and it was as Mickey said, it was, he will
Speaker 1: be pony Poller will be a complimentary player to Zeke.
Speaker 1: We want Zeke back. It looks like he's going to
Speaker 1: be a great compliment to Elliott once he comes back.
Speaker 1: And I mean, that's that's the obvious answer, right because
Speaker 1: obviously Zeke Elliott, you can make a strong case is
Speaker 1: the best back in the NFL. Oh No, they're absolutely right,
Speaker 1: and they did find a back that has a similar
Speaker 1: running style. If you look, can go inside, can bounce
Speaker 1: the ball, outside, catches the ball. Well, you know, there's
Speaker 1: things he's gonna have to work on with the pass
Speaker 1: protection and notwithstanding what happened on the sack, because that's
Speaker 1: not his issue. But I think that he's on that
Speaker 1: path to where he could be a complete back. And
Speaker 1: if you want to put somebody in the game for
Speaker 1: a few snaps and use him as a weapon, Tony
Speaker 1: Pollard looks like a good piece for that. And let's
Speaker 1: clear up what happened on the sack, because there's been
Speaker 1: a lot of talk on social media about that. When
Speaker 1: you look at the play, Jason Witten's involvement in it
Speaker 1: as well as Poler, what do you see? Yeah, what
Speaker 1: I saw, But I also asked somebody that would know
Speaker 1: what was going on. I mean I didn't want to
Speaker 1: The thing is, yeah, I don't wanted to know what
Speaker 1: the exactly and that's a little bit of a dangerous
Speaker 1: thing a game I work with, and so but I
Speaker 1: asked somebody, said the outside linebacker Patrick beat Witton on
Speaker 1: a quick move. It happens in football. A guy made
Speaker 1: a great swim move. Witten set hard to the outside,
Speaker 1: thinking he's gonna have to take him and widen him
Speaker 1: and keep him outside. Well, Patrick went inside on the
Speaker 1: swim move, but he was so quick to beat Witton
Speaker 1: that it got a Pollard who was doing his play fake,
Speaker 1: who was going through the going through that side, and
Speaker 1: he had really no time to adjust. So it looked
Speaker 1: bad on two levels. That two players get the get
Speaker 1: the Rams player, Patrick, the outside linebacker, a lot of
Speaker 1: credit for an outstanding movie. So as far as Pollard
Speaker 1: is concerned on that play, his assignment is to carry
Speaker 1: out the ferry out the flavor. When he sees that linebacker.
Speaker 1: He's trying to be a football player. He's trying to
Speaker 1: be a football and I was told with more maturity,
Speaker 1: more experience, he'll see like, oh, okay, next time I
Speaker 1: know this play, there might be somebody of flashes that
Speaker 1: I have to be ready for. And then as far
Speaker 1: as what Whitton did there, Witton, after he missed on
Speaker 1: the linebacker coming, he immediately turned. He said he was
Speaker 1: an outlet for Dak. He was saying, had any opportunity,
Speaker 1: any opportunity to him. And we're talking about pre show.
Speaker 1: Wile Collins got beat on the play too. So if
Speaker 1: Patrick doesn't get there, lyle Collins guys right there as well,
Speaker 1: and then Dak could have diffused it if he just
Speaker 1: got rid of the foot tride. Yeah, he tried too hard,
Speaker 1: you know what. He almost fumbled in exact three yard
Speaker 1: And that's something Dak has talked about, like just live
Speaker 1: to see another day right on a certain play. That's something.
Speaker 1: I mean, some of the sacks he took last year,
Speaker 1: he tried to extend plays and he even acknowledged that
Speaker 1: and what what what what was that? It was like
Speaker 1: the third third play of the deal Shaman Uncle Wade
Speaker 1: for blitzing that early in a preseason. It's his old team, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's his old team, but the Cowboys at What was
Speaker 1: the most impressive thing on that drive in your opinion, Brian,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I love the way. There's a
Speaker 1: couple of things. I love the protection and the ability
Speaker 1: to get the ball down the field to Gallop. I
Speaker 1: thought Callip made a great adjustment. He tracks the ball
Speaker 1: really really well. His strength that he's shown not to
Speaker 1: get old Gallop would have been pushed out out of
Speaker 1: the sidelines Williams, the quarter would have just ridden him out,
Speaker 1: but he stayed along the path thought separated. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you another thing. I was impressed with the second level
Speaker 1: block that Travis Frederick made on the touch down run.
Speaker 1: That's the old Travis Frederick right there. He partnered up
Speaker 1: with Suafilo, they secured the down lineman and he got
Speaker 1: the second level. And once he got the second level,
Speaker 1: then that meant that Poulard had a chance to get
Speaker 1: behind him and par Ballance finished the run. Those are
Speaker 1: oppressive things in that drive to me. You know, Gallop,
Speaker 1: he for a part of that route he ran, he
Speaker 1: looked like a wily veteran because he slowed down just
Speaker 1: a little and got the dB on his hip and
Speaker 1: then took off again, and had Dak thrown it a
Speaker 1: little further, he would have caught it in stride had
Speaker 1: been gone, he had to come back and get the ball.
Speaker 1: The other thing that I thought was impresses is they
Speaker 1: had three third down opportunities and they converted all three,
Speaker 1: and that was something I think they had to feel
Speaker 1: good about. Nice. They made trouble converting third downs last
Speaker 1: year early in the season until Marie Cooper got here,
Speaker 1: and that's where Jason Winton could come in, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: ten yard catch on third down on an option route,
Speaker 1: just kind of finding a way to get open. And
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's such a safety blanket for Dak
Speaker 1: that they went about, you well, and then and then Pollard,
Speaker 1: you know, sure, and the way that throughout the drive.
Speaker 1: You know, he had one reception for nine yards, but
Speaker 1: you talk about inside outside that sort of thing, right,
Speaker 1: him and what they're gonna be able to do with him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is not a small guy. I mean people want
Speaker 1: to think of lands dump. No, this is not lands dunbar.
Speaker 1: This is a legitimate guy that's got a little weight
Speaker 1: to him though, and he's got that explosive quickness, that
Speaker 1: ability to put that foot in the ground again. They
Speaker 1: had him wrapped up on the going in on that
Speaker 1: goal line. He was able to break a tackle of
Speaker 1: a of a off of a defensive lineman and get
Speaker 1: that thing into the end zone. And think about this.
Speaker 1: You you mentioned Dunbar and the same thing last year
Speaker 1: started with Tavon Austin right right, Oh, he can line
Speaker 1: up in the back Tyron. Tyron Smith is out there
Speaker 1: by the way, Yes he is. I don't know how
Speaker 1: much he's gonna do, but he is out there, and
Speaker 1: he led the jumping jacks. Uh with Pollard. When you
Speaker 1: put him back there, it's not an automatic. Oh, he's
Speaker 1: gonna motion out into the formation, right they and hand
Speaker 1: him the football and just just the threat. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: And it doesn't mean they're running some sort of fancy
Speaker 1: sweep or they're pitching it outside. You know, they can
Speaker 1: hand it to him and he's shown him go between
Speaker 1: the tackles. Kellen Moore is going to find a way
Speaker 1: to get Ezekiel Elliott and Tony Pollard in the backfield
Speaker 1: field at the same time. Why not get ready that
Speaker 1: and that is going to percent a lot of problems
Speaker 1: for defensive coordinators. And the other thing about Tony Pollard
Speaker 1: or as in the past, you might have two backups
Speaker 1: to Zeke where one guy's going to come in on
Speaker 1: the third series of the game or whatever and do
Speaker 1: all the things that running being able to run between
Speaker 1: the tackles. Well, Pollard can do that. Plus he can
Speaker 1: be the third down back. Right if this could be
Speaker 1: the second coming of Tony Dorsett and herschel Walker lighting
Speaker 1: up in the backfield at the same time, Wow, what
Speaker 1: a comparison is quite quite the comparison. I mean, just
Speaker 1: in exactly you're watching him out there right now. And
Speaker 1: I've said this before, but Mike Webber number forty, I
Speaker 1: think it's the it's the Big Ten thing. Weber played
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten. Oh, he's this traditional back. You
Speaker 1: just watched Tony Pollard. The guy looks like he could
Speaker 1: be in every down back. He's built that way. He's
Speaker 1: shown it a little bit already in what we see
Speaker 1: in a small sample size. Not an American Football Conference player, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's the Memphis Ohio State thing. I
Speaker 1: think that was the perception coming in. It's just not reality. Well,
Speaker 1: and the other part of that is because he wasn't
Speaker 1: the featured back at Memphis, we saw yeah yeah so
Speaker 1: um so. Anyway, and otherwise from the game the other day,
Speaker 1: what was it that stood out? Casa? Another thing too,
Speaker 1: about about something that stood out? How about the young
Speaker 1: defense in the second half of that game? Though there
Speaker 1: was a point in time where the Rams really weren't
Speaker 1: moving the football at all, and then it was guys
Speaker 1: like Hill and Jackson and those guys were all making plays.
Speaker 1: They were affecting the way the Rams quarterbacks were having
Speaker 1: to try and the distribution of the football they were
Speaker 1: trying to run, the waggles and the boots, and good
Speaker 1: coverage by the young corners and safety. So that second
Speaker 1: half defense, I thought did a nice job of just
Speaker 1: kind of holding in there, holding in there. You have
Speaker 1: to be proud about that because they could have very
Speaker 1: easily got hot, tired and just gave up something at
Speaker 1: the end because they played a lot of snaps. But
Speaker 1: I was really impressed with the way that those young
Speaker 1: guys played in the second half. Do you think the
Speaker 1: battle for the backup quarterback is over? I do me
Speaker 1: person's rush right, it's rush. After that game yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think Mickey were and guys were to the point
Speaker 1: where now it's okay, how do we plan to get
Speaker 1: Mike White to the practice squad? And if that's the case,
Speaker 1: then you have to hope that there's not another team
Speaker 1: that had a nice college report about him. But I
Speaker 1: don't think there's anything that if you if I was
Speaker 1: a pro guy and I was watching his tape, say
Speaker 1: I was at the Buccaneers watching his tape, I would say,
Speaker 1: Mike White doesn't look like the same quarterback. He doesn't
Speaker 1: look like the guy at Western Kentucky that was anticipating throws.
Speaker 1: There was a third down throw that he made that
Speaker 1: he could have made in that game the other day
Speaker 1: where they were Kelly Moore called an excellent route where
Speaker 1: they crossed underneath and it opened. It brought the safeties
Speaker 1: up and they ran the dig behind it. And if
Speaker 1: Mike White just makes that throw, it's a nineteen yard game.
Speaker 1: The sticks are moving your inside ram red zone. Mike
Speaker 1: White just does not have the anticipation right now to
Speaker 1: make that throw, you know, And if you just if
Speaker 1: you just watch the difference between Cooper Rush dropping back
Speaker 1: to pass and Mike White dropping back Cooper Rush looks
Speaker 1: like he's in control, like I got this. Mike White
Speaker 1: looks like he's dropping back like a deer in head
Speaker 1: in the headlights. And I just think the way he commanded, uh,
Speaker 1: the offense, and they gave him a chance. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I and I and I said last week, maybe you
Speaker 1: give him the opportunity to go second, and they did,
Speaker 1: and they did, they did. And then what they thought
Speaker 1: about the first game that he played against the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers, where there were some decisions he made irrespective
Speaker 1: of protection that could have been better. And this, you know,
Speaker 1: the same thing happened against the Rams, the interception. You know,
Speaker 1: this is an underthrown ball. I think John Bay Johnson
Speaker 1: might have been had a chance of kee. Johnson's got
Speaker 1: separation on the outside and Mike White for it. And
Speaker 1: you're throwing a kne a double double pump, and I'm
Speaker 1: going and now his arm momentum, body momentum is stopped
Speaker 1: and that you just can't. That's just into sit. You're
Speaker 1: throwing a nine route. You gotta throw the nine route.
Speaker 1: And that's the same thing he did last week with
Speaker 1: the deep ball to Devin Smith was wide open, right
Speaker 1: and and and end up being short and broken up.
Speaker 1: And by the way, Devin Smith, I think it might
Speaker 1: just be on this fifty let me ask me, can
Speaker 1: I ask you guys this qu real quick question though?
Speaker 1: Is this thing we started off with all these wide receivers,
Speaker 1: is it now a two man race? Is it now okay?
Speaker 1: What is Cedric Wilson coming back off the concussion protocol?
Speaker 1: Is Is it now a two man race for that
Speaker 1: sixth spot? Tell you what, Let's take that right, And
Speaker 1: I think we come back here on Talk Boys, Mickey
Speaker 1: is going to tell us what he sees out there
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Speaker 1: All right, all right? Brian asked question about wide receivers
Speaker 1: right before the break. What did you see out there, Mickey?
Speaker 1: I did see Cedric Wilson back in practice. He suffered
Speaker 1: the concussion against the forty nine ers and was in
Speaker 1: concussion protocol all last week and now he's back on
Speaker 1: the field. So just in time, right, because as you
Speaker 1: mentioned before the break, Devin Smith starting to separate himself
Speaker 1: and Noah Brown still on active pup, not ready to
Speaker 1: come back yet. Jason Garrett says, but are we all
Speaker 1: of the opinion that he's got a spot? Wow, this
Speaker 1: is getting interesting. Yeah, because I'm asking, I'm asking, no
Speaker 1: no I know you are. Yeah. I think that he
Speaker 1: may end up staying there for a few weeks, okay,
Speaker 1: like that. I think they think it's crowded now and
Speaker 1: and maybe you you can leave him on pup and
Speaker 1: he only has to miss six weeks, right, so they
Speaker 1: may go that route. U And that's a way to
Speaker 1: make sure they keep his rights. And yeah to the
Speaker 1: way the way that Mickey ethink read this the right
Speaker 1: way with Jason Garrett's press conference today and the way
Speaker 1: well he's not ready to practice the plan. I believe
Speaker 1: Mickey's right here. They're gonna keep him on pup. It's
Speaker 1: the if the receivers hadn't separated themselves, if guys hadn't
Speaker 1: pushed the envelope to be on this team, I think
Speaker 1: it would be Okay, we need we need Brown here
Speaker 1: right now, boom, let's go. But but but I think I
Speaker 1: think that that's the way they're gonna go. And Bill,
Speaker 1: I think it comes down to the other three young guys.
Speaker 1: You gotta do something in the games, and they haven't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know John Vay, Okay, he made a couple of catches,
Speaker 1: but he dropped two more passes. Can't drop passes. And
Speaker 1: that's not this this game. It's San Francisco and it's
Speaker 1: the Blue White scrimmage. So he's got to step up
Speaker 1: if he's gonna have a spot. And Jalen Guyton, we
Speaker 1: really haven't seen much from him. Yeah, every contested catch
Speaker 1: for Jalen Guyton seems like it's getting knocked down. Now
Speaker 1: he's made some in practice, some right catches where he's
Speaker 1: laid out and made vertical plays. But to me, those
Speaker 1: two guys are very practice squad like for me, well,
Speaker 1: then Reggie Davis, yeah, yeah, that's a tough that was
Speaker 1: a tough catch to make, but yeah he's got to
Speaker 1: catch it. Yeah, and talking and talking to some of
Speaker 1: the coaches about that though. They really didn't have anybody
Speaker 1: else they wanted to put back there. So that's why
Speaker 1: Reggie Davis went the whole way. But I think that
Speaker 1: you know, it's now it's gonna be about there's three
Speaker 1: guys who are looking at practice squad spots. There's two
Speaker 1: guys trying to make the six so okay, or or
Speaker 1: take Noah brown spot too. So if Noah say he's
Speaker 1: not ready and he starts on pub, do you keep
Speaker 1: five instead of six or is that six receiver spot?
Speaker 1: Then maybe go to an extra defensive lineman or an
Speaker 1: extra offensive lineman. Though, you know, because because Tavon Austin,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking's the fourth receiver after the top three? Is
Speaker 1: it down? No, you don't. I think Cedric Wilson makes
Speaker 1: the team. I'm just saying, like could are you Are
Speaker 1: we assuming that it's six receivers if you don't count,
Speaker 1: I think all along i've said six. But I like
Speaker 1: what Rob's saying because it's gonna save you spot. If
Speaker 1: I know I got a guy stashed on pup for
Speaker 1: right for six weeks, maybe I could. I could live
Speaker 1: with five if I could get all my guys to
Speaker 1: the practice squad, and we don't know in two three
Speaker 1: weeks where they might be hurting injury wise at other
Speaker 1: positions that they may have to go heavy. I think
Speaker 1: they like it, but I think they gotta like Devin Smith,
Speaker 1: don't you? Yeah, if you, But they like Jalen Jokes
Speaker 1: and Joe Jackson and a lot of these other guys.
Speaker 1: No if no, Noah Brown, like Mickey's planned to pup
Speaker 1: Wilson and Smith make the football team for me at five? Six? Okay,
Speaker 1: that's just that's how I would look at it right now,
Speaker 1: because I remember, I don't think Rob's wrong. Though I
Speaker 1: don't think he I don't think I think he's got
Speaker 1: a good plan. If you want to just go five,
Speaker 1: remember Wilson last week second half caught the punts. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: that's that's staff. There you go, there, you go, and
Speaker 1: so then how many wide receivers you're gonna kept put
Speaker 1: on the practice squad? Seven you're gonna have? I think
Speaker 1: I think you got Davis has got eligibility. Guy's gotten
Speaker 1: yet and they've all got eligibility. Again, it goes back
Speaker 1: to grades. What kind of grades did these these other
Speaker 1: teams have on these guys? And is the college is
Speaker 1: the pro tape that you've seen through likely these guys
Speaker 1: playing four games? Is it likely going to get somebody
Speaker 1: to claim one of these guys? Now the first claim there,
Speaker 1: it only go it only goes to ninety, It goes
Speaker 1: to ninety. No no, no, no, no, I mean I
Speaker 1: mean after that. No, No, That's why he practice squad.
Speaker 1: That's why he practice if they because they're they're they
Speaker 1: can sign them to their team and cut them the
Speaker 1: next week. Absolutely, it's when you take him off the
Speaker 1: practice squad. Got three great games? Three games, okay, all right? Um. Otherwise, defensively,
Speaker 1: MALIEK Collins and that it was great being alongside Darryl
Speaker 1: Johnston because he was seeing Malik for the first time
Speaker 1: really this camp and his immediate reaction on he see him.
Speaker 1: He's one of the top three players in camp. No question.
Speaker 1: He has been disrupted. You saw in the game the
Speaker 1: other day, the agility, the mobility, the ability to get
Speaker 1: around guys, to be in the backfield. He's just so
Speaker 1: disruptive in the way the GM and DJ wasn't happy
Speaker 1: with my five players to watch and four of her
Speaker 1: moron offense. Oh yeah, he didn't like that. And he's gonna,
Speaker 1: by the way, gonna be doing the game again this week,
Speaker 1: better three defensive and Brian, you appreciate this, you know,
Speaker 1: in his role now as the director of player person
Speaker 1: and I talked about it. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting because
Speaker 1: he's excuse me, he's really paying attention to the second
Speaker 1: Oh no, he's watching both teams, which is he's he
Speaker 1: was probably taking notes, Yeah, marking him off that flip card.
Speaker 1: That's what you do, keeping his notes. Yeah. Oh, you
Speaker 1: want me to talk now, I'm sorry. I'm Bill Bill
Speaker 1: second half. Once you watch you talking him, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: scout all right, So we got just a minute left.
Speaker 1: Uh and um, it's great seeing Sean Lee out Therety
Speaker 1: he plays this week? No, no, I do not know. No,
Speaker 1: not'm saving I think save him for week one, Yeah,
Speaker 1: save him for week one. Try they have some young
Speaker 1: linebackers that need to continue to get risk this justin Phillips.
Speaker 1: Keep an eye. We've already kind of kept an eye
Speaker 1: on him. But he's starting. He's got a guy that
Speaker 1: got on the roster, off the roster, back on the roster.
Speaker 1: He's trying to make a fifty three man roster. Now,
Speaker 1: we never got to extortion. Have you been extorted any
Speaker 1: time in your life? Like zekes about what didn't see
Speaker 1: the extortion demand? The Vegas thing? Yes, yeah, that's not important.
Speaker 1: It's laughable too. Yep. It seems like a lot of
Speaker 1: things are laughable right now. All right, So come out
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