WEBVTT - Episode 258 w/ Talib Kweli & Diamond D 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.480 Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of the Black Effect 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:17.800 and I Heart Radio and it's Drink Chess, motherfucking podcast. Mason, 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:21.760 he's a legendary Queen's rapper. He's like it is your 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:25.360 boy in r He's a Miami hippop pioneer. Up is 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:28.080 DJ e f N. Together they drink it up with 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:33.280 some of the biggest players in the most professional unprofessional podcast. 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:37.120 And you're number one sorts for drunk drinks. Mother. Every 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:41.200 day is New Year's e time for Drink Champs. Drink 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:49.960 up the mother. Would it could be Hopeully what it 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:52.199 should be? It's your boy and what up is d 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:54.480 J e f N? And this drink chats motherfucker? Yea, 0:00:54.560 --> 0:01:00.000 y'all would makes up load? Now right now, I guess 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:06.000 we got one of the most legendary producers of all times, 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:10.039 part of one of the alliest groups ever to come 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.480 out of the Bronx, come out of New York City, 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:15.520 to come out of the world. D I motherfucking TC. 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.720 The man is a legend upon legends, and he's keeping 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:22.840 then coming out here to promoter album. That's one of them. 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:27.800 The other one is one of my favorite raptivists, activists, raptivists, 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:31.360 whatever we call him. He's very positive. Brother. We got 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:39.320 to talk about the time we had Russell Simmons on. Yeah, 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.160 we didn't release the episode, so we don't got you know, 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:44.039 I can get these brothers solver long. But I want 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:45.920 to get straight into the interview case people don't know 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:53.200 what we're talking about. My motherfucking David d Now, first 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:59.040 of all, let's let's address um uh you guys have 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:02.800 album together. Let's rest the elephant in the room. Yes, yes, yes, okay, Um, Well, 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.000 first of all, I love the intro that you gave 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:07.920 the O G. Diamond. Obviously he's a legend in the game. 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:12.359 Um Me and Diamond dmon working together on his last 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.280 couple of albums to die Piece albums, and so we 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:17.400 have a great working relationship. He's one of the first, 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:21.200 uh known on you know, a famous artist to get 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:23.760 to sort of take me under his wing. And so 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:26.519 when he did my show, People's Party, he has sent 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.000 me a bunch of tracks and to show him some 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:31.400 love and respect, I just bust on all of them. 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:33.880 I was like, we just wrap on every track and 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:35.600 the next he flew in down the next day and 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:37.120 I played it for him, But I didn't realize it 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:39.000 was the making of an album until I've seen this 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:42.919 response to wait making an album. Yeah, something like ten 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:48.320 joints and no, we're not we're not, we're not. Watch 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:53.000 So I was like, yo, you know, um, how many 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:54.480 how many of you did you know? I think he 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:56.240 did like one of two. He's like, nah, I did 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.480 like like eight and nine of them, you know what 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:00.399 I mean? So that more or less just lay into 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:02.280 the album, because that's how is that how you usually 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:04.280 send beats? You sending beats and like boats like that, 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:07.720 tens and pins because I get confused. I need like 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:09.280 two beats at a time. If you send me to 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:16.160 you sent me, I like down, So how did you 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:18.560 able to prosper through that and get uh and we 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:21.119 going like eight or nine? I mean it's different producers. 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:23.280 That's just some producers who like, you need to come 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:25.560 to my studio and work with me. That some producers 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:27.360 that only send you the one they want you to 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:29.600 wrap on. Some producers to send you a pack. You know, 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:31.639 I work with mad Live a lot. You might get 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:35.560 a pack from him for like two beats, like keep 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:37.880 making like seven beats a minute, Like what I'm saying, 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.640 I'll be confused, but I appreciate the love the Diamond 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:42.880 showing me because I know for a fact the caliber 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:44.800 of of how he produced it. I know for a 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:48.360 fact he ain't sending everybody ten beats or twelve beats. 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:50.840 I know that I have to reach a certain elite 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.720 status for him to even trust me to even you 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.600 know what I'm saying, to not take advantage of You know, 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:58.440 sometimes you send people that that in my beats they 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:00.200 make their own alum these days, and Nigga make down 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:02.400 album and put it out right before you even knew 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:05.720 he did it. I imagine it's weird to send beach 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.000 from the era that that that you're coming from. To 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:11.119 send beach to people must still be weird, I would imagine, 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:15.640 I mean not at this point, definitely, definitely, because there's 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:18.200 nothing like working with the artists in the course, you know, 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.400 before the internet, you have to actually sit down with 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:22.799 the artists, right, you know what I mean, or contact 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.400 they managed me. I like that erraw better, like I 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:28.160 always love the error when you know you couldn't send 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:30.360 your rail, you have to go with record on the rail. 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.919 Is that why people always credit like the nineties and 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.880 the eighties. That for it being better music than it's 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.040 happening right now is because we actually you couldn't get 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:42.880 a Buster Rhymes verse sitting to you go in there. Yeah, 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:46.000 the producer in the MC by the way right now 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:49.120 as we speak, right now on Ebro showing Apple their 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.880 debut in a single from Gotham album featuring Buster Rhymes. 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:59.600 Why one, That's what I mean, y'all. Gotham the dedication 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:02.120 with me or see now, now you've been out there 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:05.840 with Dave Chappelle catching COVID and all that, I feel 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:07.280 like I might be the cure. I'm the only one 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:13.920 in the crew too. She was not. I think her 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:16.320 people's got it. I was dead at night. They don't 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:18.600 went to karaoke by the way. You see. I got 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.520 my DJ collegue colda college colde off that I bought, 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:28.240 by the way, that I bought from the store. But yeah, well, 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:30.240 I had to say because when I'm on the way here, 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.640 I told Fat Joe, I said, I'm interviewing uh diamond 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.359 D and Tyler Quality, And he said, diamond D is 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.440 literally the person who it's the nexest thing I ever 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:41.600 heard of her Flat Joe, I ever said about anybody, anybody, 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.279 he said, he said, you know, if it wasn't for you, 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:46.839 he said, he literally came to you, literally came to 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:48.920 him and said, you gotta rap, get the funk out 0:05:48.920 --> 0:06:01.920 of the streets. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sense What up? What up? Joe? 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:10.960 What up? Joe crackty? What's up from? How are you feeling? Oh? 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:23.520 That's beautiful? Bro? Birthday? Domond d saved my life and 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.039 we knew each other since kids, and Dinmond told me 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:30.479 one day, Joe, Joe, every time you're doing the streets, 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:32.240 you gotta put it in the rats. I know you 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:35.120 like the rat or you're gonna die out here, You're 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:37.640 gonna go to jail. And if it wasn't for that 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:41.120 speech he gave me, I never would have really took 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:45.839 rap serious and never would have rat. That's real, Joe, 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:50.159 that's really you know that? Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:55.160 I'll give you a cool a players you know. What's up? D. 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:58.000 I love you to death, y'all feel like to beat 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:03.480 from Bendy showing about to come on right now? All right, 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:10.240 my brother, we love you so much, Thank you so much. Well, look, yeah, 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.400 I'm so so I would like to I would like 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.920 because it literally was just like that. I literally jumped 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:17.760 in the car. Um. He called me for one of 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:19.800 his other friends, but I told about got him pistle, 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:23.080 peep up the pistol pee, Oh, I got you bro 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:25.840 u uh And I said, you know, it's funny because 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:28.120 I know the relationship with the sounds like I'm going 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:31.640 to And he literally said, y'all, that man literally was 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.120 the reason why I started rhyming, like the reason why 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:37.560 how did you do that? What was going on? He 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.240 was already into hip hop. You know, this is like, 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:45.240 you know, he was in the streets and his man 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:48.680 tone arrest the arrest of peace tone, um, the whole 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:52.040 terror Squad crew back then TS squad but um, like, 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.200 you know, he was already like kind of in it. 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.200 But he saw me doing it. You know, I was 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.520 in a group called Ultimate for us. He saw the 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:01.880 law for that's doing it. Lord fess, like right in 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:07.760 the next building, we popped the save bottles over there. Whatever. Relaxed, man, 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:13.080 It's not just like yeah, so basically just Joe seeing 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:17.480 people he fuck with, tangible people doing shit, you know 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:19.560 what I mean? And you know, from the from then on, 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:21.560 we never looked back. You know we went in there 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:24.800 we may flow Joe Flow Joe started off as a 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.880 promo for Red Alert and ready with doing the promos 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:30.720 and it was a just a ready like a free 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:34.760 stuff for the radio. Uh this hour the Italian real quick. 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.840 Making a long story short. Right at this time Chris 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:42.319 Litty was managing I was on Violater. No, it was 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.679 a later um and that's and that was the connection 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:49.960 between Red Alert, myself and Christy and Fat Joe. Ultimately 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:54.000 Fat Joe wand up signing with Chris like relativity and 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:58.679 off and running. Since then that makes a noise with 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:04.040 right forget boy you Daves covid. So let's go, let's 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.080 get back to that. So they are running a type 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:10.880 ship over there. Then he came out to the tested before. Yeah, 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.560 and then so so what so what what because people 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:17.040 that didn't know because I just have Instagram, right, I 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:22.240 didn't get invited, so you gotta y'all gotta invite did 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.200 tell me? But I just that's one of the people 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:29.160 to feel good. So so what is this a comedy show? 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.120 And then he brings you guys out to do some 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:35.000 songs or yeah, well basically this summer um he is 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:37.560 a neighbor, his man Steve out there in Yellow Springs, 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.680 who had this pavilion. And you know, I've known Steve 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:43.200 for why. I remember with Steve brought the pavilion, nobody 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.559 knew what he wanted to use it for what provision. 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:51.319 It's like a outdoor structure and like a c like 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.120 children in the corn He owned all the children on 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:56.200 the cornfield space for his payment, his people to hang out. 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.560 I had going to a birthday party Dave had thrown. 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:00.599 They're doing Dave ber the party for a day of 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:02.760 the year before. It's a nice space for people to 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:06.720 hang out. When the pandemic happened, Dave got the idea too. 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:10.599 Michelle Wolf is comedian who was staying that that's the 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:12.720 that's the lady that run ten miles a day. That's right, 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:19.079 That's right, Michelle's Michelle was out there. Danielle Rollins is 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.160 always out there, so they say, yeah, actual Larry Mommer 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:24.800 is always out there today, like let's um, let's tell 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:26.760 some jokes in the cornfield. Will set up the chairs 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:30.599 with socially distance. We will test the audience so it 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:32.280 could come in. I think it started. It's weird for 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:34.599 black people to be in cornfields and we want to 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:39.160 be that's right to tell. People had a meetings. They 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:41.400 tried to get a shut down, but Dave would listening 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:43.599 on the city council meeting to listen to what the 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:45.520 town people would say, you know what I'm saying, and 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:47.760 then they would make jokes about you know what she 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:50.880 is about. The situation is that's the first time that 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.800 you understand that Hollywood could exist anywhere. That's what he 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.320 kept saying. He kept saying that l A. He said 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:59.760 l A is dead. Hollywood is dead. From now on, 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.000 they gotta come to week where we at. So if 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:07.480 I say that, I actually that's that's actually happening right now. 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.959 So right now Joe Rogan left and went to Austin 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.240 Davis in Austin right now with Joe Rogan. They're doing 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:18.640 shows together. Yeah, and then they're gonna be in Houston 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:21.680 next week. You know. But that's what That's what David 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:25.319 Young Town, Ohio. What is it? Yellow springs? Yellow springs 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:30.960 right where it's fish in the river, Yeah, Diamond. When 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:34.679 kayak and when Niko is is kayak and that's when 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:42.040 you're going out there with some fresh try we try 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:44.160 to take side of baby Kayak, and he was like, wait, 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:45.599 that's a ship, y'all gott to move to ship with 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.680 your with yourself. You gotta moving both with your motor 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:56.240 no motor, right, yeah. So right, we just read today 0:11:56.360 --> 0:12:01.720 that Kanye it's worth six point six million billion billi billion, 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:05.600 which actually and now I'm assuming that's this net worth, 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.400 right yeah, and they actually saying that he's the richest 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.959 black man in the US and in history of US. 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.760 That's what let's keep it. Let's get as some context though, 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:19.319 it's about seventeen hundred billionaires on the planet Earth, only 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.800 about twelve thirteen of them are black, and most of 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.640 the black ones is entertainers, even though we're the majority 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:29.199 on the planet. That's racism. That's like generational wealth racism. 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.760 And I'm saying this is way more black. So we're 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:33.800 happy for Kanye and jay Z and on him. But 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:37.920 the fact that the seventeen hundred only twelve black, that's crazy. 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:41.079 That that's crazy. But um, they're staying on Kanye for 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:44.920 a second. Do you think that is he talk about 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.719 still can you still talk to somebody like when you 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:55.240 were six point six million like at this point that 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.400 that's that's a very interesting point, because the fact is 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:00.400 you're breathing very rare air and only certain people are 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.920 able to exist in that stratosphere. It's almost like being 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.520 out of space. The reason why Dave Chappelle is so interested, 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:07.280 I don't think he's a billionaire. I don't want to 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:09.520 discuss too much of his finances. Everybody knows he gets 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:11.640 his bread, and so the reason why he's so interesting 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:14.360 is because he's able to get that amount of bread 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:16.679 but still seem like one of us, and he's the 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:20.679 exception to the rule. Kanye I talked with him about 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:25.360 that Trump stuff and all that stuff and isn't that Yeah, 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.320 we talked about it with their presidence here. And what's 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.160 interesting about Kanye is it's like you said, it's hard 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.960 to talk to someone a self made man, self made 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:35.599 from the bottom. I don't even think jay Z. I 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:37.640 don't think it take jay Z advice at this point. Yeah, 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:40.280 who's who'll tell him what to do? But it's hard 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.440 to trust people too when you got that kind of bread. 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.559 I've never take advice from a marriage counselor they've never 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:51.160 been married, makes sense, and they can give you the 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:54.199 best advice ever. Like you know, you know sometimes you 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:57.240 know that's the best knowledge. Is the drunk from the 0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:00.480 hood that's going to block he gonna get drink, drink, 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:03.679 give you some of the Master. He just don't got 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.160 his owner for him a s they love himself, But 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:08.960 don't overlook that that that wise man, there's a drunk 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:11.079 that's gonna They're gonna hit you with some math to 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.599 matters that makes sense. It just didn't make sense for 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:16.920 his life. But we're seeing that diamond right, knowing that 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:18.839 the music business and how it was back then, and 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:21.880 seeing Dave Chappelle going or make make his his his 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.760 his plot for like like I thought, we did that 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:26.960 for they last sol when they last so came up here. 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.440 We told Tom Sylvan, this is the right time to 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:31.920 do the thing. All these old white men is, you know, 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:35.080 looked at his masters and even owning a thing called 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.120 the Master. How did you you've seen that Dave Chappelle 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:40.880 took that stairs and Netflix took the standard they did 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.320 and then actually gave him back his rights or whatever 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:48.080 it was worked up took hibout Comedy Central Comedy said, yeah, 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:49.480 I mean it was the only right they did that, 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.640 you know what I mean? It was his ship you know, 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:54.560 like you know, you know, from the way it got 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.640 to me to quality was that the people who were 0:14:57.680 --> 0:14:59.960 there in the nineties, they're not there. You gotta hope 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:01.400 a whole bunch of young people up there and then 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:03.720 and they just wanted to do the right thing. But 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:05.800 you know what I mean, so that they game back 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:09.600 his name, the show, they paid him some blood, the 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.280 name the Dave Chappelle's show they did. Now he owned him. 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:15.200 That's crazy. That was the whole thing they own own. No, 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.920 that's why I was drunk. That's kind of in the 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.800 music business. A lot of probably don't even own their name. 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.760 But my thing, my good thing is they didn't really 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:26.760 give a funk about me then because they spelled it wrong. 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:28.880 That's why I spelled it in R E A E 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:32.280 A G A said I. They just wanted, like the 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.640 real dictator. Come on, I'm looking for me being smart. 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:43.720 Ships you say, likeness, your likeness and your universe and 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:49.320 that ship don't make no ships. That's colonizer ship. I 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.440 was trying to own somebody's soul and on their own life. 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:56.080 The slavery. This is independent. I don't got to ask that. Yeah, 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.560 we did, partner, you got Diamond Mind because I got 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:02.520 uh the media we partnered with in Gruse distribution, but 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:08.480 we owned the master. That's oz. Okay, they've been around 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:17.080 for a whiles, Okay, okay, right and um all right? 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:21.400 How many records on this album? What is it? Okay, 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.320 I'm keeping it back to old and we got we 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:26.480 got sky Do on it. We got uh who was 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:29.280 not read all day on it? Bust the rhymes, John 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:32.600 Forte Nico is right, you ain't got none of the 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:35.600 new generation, none of them new niggas on that. What 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:37.720 is The album is called God because it's dedication to 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:41.280 not just New York, but old New York, particularly after 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.480 the pandemic. New York is different right now. So it's like, 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:45.880 I'm glad that we got it in before the pandemic. 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.000 This is about the New York I grew up this 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:51.320 this album was done. It was I listened to Cuban 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.200 Links for hours before I did this album. I listened 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:57.200 to Diamonds Catalog for hours before into this album because 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:59.920 I wanted, Yeah, I like the way to Ray and Ghost, 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.760 how the voices was different. So you listen to this album, 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:05.439 you'll notice that one one verse I'm doing in one 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:07.720 voice another verse. I'm doing another voice, just to have 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:11.919 their different colors. Um, you know just how I grew up, 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:15.200 me listening to records in the headphone on the train 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:17.480 and the error with somebody to see how you dress 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:19.480 and be like yo, you listen to hip hop and 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:21.720 they give you a flyer, give you a cassette or 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:23.760 something like that. That's what I was trying to capture 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:31.679 with this album. That sound like the came first ryman 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:34.920 are producing for you, um for the goth novel with 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:39.320 just for myself yourself in general, the beats. Who I was, 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:41.560 I was a DJ first. I started at the DJ 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.000 like most producers, you know what I mean. So I 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:45.959 started at a DJ, and then from there I got 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:49.159 into production and then you got filled with the n 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:52.119 C like fucking I'm gonna ryme on this. Well, it 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.480 was it was just gradual, you know what I mean. Like, 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.400 you know, I'm hanging around lawd Fro. That's a lot 0:17:57.040 --> 0:18:02.040 um my man law Fro net Um the Brand New 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.000 Beans when they were recording their first album. So I'm 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:07.000 around pool By He's on fire, you know what I mean, 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:09.399 you know, and she just rubbed off, you know, and 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.040 it was a situation opened up. I got off of 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.960 the deal, and I said, okay, I just took the ship. 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:17.840 But that wasn't the norm back then a producer being 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:22.040 m C himself and self producing, be like being an 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:24.679 m C and producing your own album. That was normal 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.359 at that time. No, it wasn't. It was. I mean, 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.879 people was doing it, but you know, not not not 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:33.160 on a major label. Amos. You had to get signed 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:37.920 as a rapper first, and you want to grab me right? Yeah? 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:39.680 For the food? Gis ever make some lunch for that? 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:46.720 Where did you keep your Grammy at? Um? Well, I 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:49.720 got the I didn't get the actual statue or if 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:55.600 I got it, Patrick Moxy probably got. Anyway, you know, 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:57.760 I got all the plaques and ship. You know, I 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:00.800 gave my mom one and I got one. Um they 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:03.320 you know, they give you like like a back and 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:05.400 not he said, got like like a like a medallion, 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:08.040 the whole package. But yeah, that was for the that 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:10.840 was for the song, the score Fuji tracking the school. 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:14.000 How did they feel when they called you and said 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:15.720 you want to gram me? Nas? Just want to grammy? 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:18.320 Took him twenty five years yo? Yeah, yeah, you know 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:24.240 what part I mean. So it's nice you know what 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.600 I mean. But it don't make or break you. But 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:29.600 it's all we nice to be appreciated. I mean, you know, 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:32.000 shouts out to nas You know, he definitely deserved that 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:35.520 he deserved that he ever cared about the Grammys. Uh, no, 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:37.440 I give a funk about But you know what's funny 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:43.280 about this, I'm ting I wanna tell you. I can't 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:49.080 be the reason you're mad that he wanted to tell 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:52.080 you my mad want to Grammy because I don't give 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:54.960 a about the Grammys. And I always used to say 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:58.119 I'm proud to be in a category of artists that 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:02.680 didn't win a Grammy like na Us, Like don't I 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:14.280 can't say this day hasn't gone an down with the 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:22.080 ball me and you as the leaders. Man. I always 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:25.480 think it's funny like that. I would like to, you know, 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:29.560 give the accolades when when it's well deserved, as it 0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:32.919 is in No's case, in your case. But I always 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:34.760 felt like we should have had an old awards show 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:37.680 that's prestigious. It was called Source Awards at one point. 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:39.840 I mean I mean it was it was there. I 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:42.560 mean it was big at its Source Awards hit my questions. 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:45.840 We we do got to own ship sometimes, but it's 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:50.440 always corporate involvement. Someone gets I mean, you know, shout 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:52.359 out to my man bad Seed. I don't know if 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:55.240 you'll know who that is, but you know he'd be 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:59.080 on Instagram doing like the Grind Awards, and it'd be 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:02.600 like bad Seed versus like you know, some some rapper 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:06.280 from like Vasti versus rusty Jucks like that. Like I 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:08.840 like when artists do their own ship like that, like 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:11.399 they did their own like brooklyn Hood version of versus, 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:13.520 like Okay, we not can get celebrated on that level, 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:15.840 but let's do what ourselves. I like seeing ship like 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:18.200 that because like like when just did the Mix Tape Awards, 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:23.399 just like taking in our own hands, right piece, just 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:27.480 speaking the versus. Would you do it versus against most 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:30.119 of death? I wouldn't. I don't think most would ever 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:36.879 do any versus just you know, I think like that 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:39.920 he don't like that sort of pageantry of it, but 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:41.800 I would do what I like. I'm excited about the 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:45.320 rain ghosting. Yeah, you know, I think emtional. I didn't 0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:48.159 initially like it, and then I went and I said, oh, 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:50.880 you know what they do got a lot of records separately. 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:53.280 They have a lot, but it's just a celebration of them. 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:57.719 Want somebody was fun is to see which records, who 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:00.800 get to play what? That's the be difficult? Yeah, just 0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:03.160 Ray Kwan get to just ghost get to play ice. 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:10.359 They go, that's that's yeah album and they're gonna regret. 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:13.960 Would you want to go get a producer in versus? Oh, 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:21.040 I'll go gets anybody. Okay, let me think I as 0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:24.000 his family. Yeah, I know that's what makes it. Just 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:27.240 want some celebration. That would be fly all right, let 0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:30.720 me that would be fly Pete Rock. You get rope 0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:34.720 to anybody anybody from the mid nineties to now who've 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:37.800 been doing it that long a right, you know. Yeah, 0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:41.640 that's to have a similar cat log. Yeah, I say 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.800 I can think. I think that's that's that's dope. I 0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:50.840 think that's leg he too, don't com this would be dope, 0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:56.520 no doubt. Large Problems never changed. He's been the same. 0:22:56.600 --> 0:23:00.880 That's the same because put in a game. I love 0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:03.600 Large Bro Bro. He still come out. How long you 0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:07.239 knew each other and well, Large Bro used to come 0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:09.800 to my hood back in the days, and he's just 0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:13.000 always a good dude. He's just always around, and so 0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:14.840 I do one for a while. I can't even tell 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:18.600 you how long. Correct me from your main source. I knew, 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:21.040 I think I think after me. So okay, I see 0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:23.600 you in Europe in the row with large progract. Yeah yeah, yeah, 0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:25.760 we got a party. We go out there, we do 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:30.000 our thing, spending right and you bet DJ and you 0:23:30.080 --> 0:23:32.240 just getting all the money. I'm a seleprity teacher. I 0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:37.960 can't say, but yeah, I come to a little spotsible 0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:45.040 one of the kovid They just opened up spot right there. 0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:48.280 Pizza pizza Bard did a couple of weeks ago. What's 0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:50.720 having the same same people? Yeah, just hoan we don't 0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:55.520 got then got the smoking a section. I mean yeah, 0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:58.840 I just TJ at that piece of bar weeks ago. 0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:03.680 So um, what's your relationship with Miami? Are you living 0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:06.199 out here? Partly? I like Miami a lot, man, I mean, 0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:09.239 you know, the South is South is crazy's coming here. 0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:15.080 I was super spreading and all. But I mean, you know, 0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:18.200 Miami got something special. Miami's cultural, you know, with with 0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:21.160 all the Latino people, the Caribbean people, everybody who moved 0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:22.840 here from New York and everybody who moved here, like 0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:25.879 Miami got a special thing going on, even people locally 0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:28.760 grew up here the whole Broward SENI what y'all doing 0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:30.960 with Winwood and the Hope, What you're doing art baths 0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:34.080 on arts. Shout to Thurston how and everybody who just 0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:37.040 come and relocate. Um, Miami's very special. Yea, I've been 0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:41.800 coming different down here. At one time I used to 0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:45.000 do I'm gonna tell you bouncing number. I was just 0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:47.440 moving around on subjects. I'm gonna tell you something that 0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:53.119 you told me that made funked up my mom. We 0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:56.320 did the Russell Simmons episode. Are we talking about that? Now? 0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:02.560 That was a Quarantine episode. It was a Quarantine episode. 0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:06.560 I wanted to do what I my version of marching. 0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:09.560 I have a platform. I know how powerful it is. 0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:13.040 Well I didn't. I didn't know it. Then I know 0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:16.800 it is. So we wanted to do a panel. So 0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:19.360 I think we hit you. I think it was Bumby 0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:29.440 uh Mark Mark Lamar Hill, Lamar Hill, And no, it 0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:32.479 was no female on there. And who it was Bunby 0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:34.880 markt My hell was my song on this my song 0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:39.600 and and you and I remember on the promo it's 0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:41.800 one part of the things, this part never got out. 0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:44.600 This part never got out. But when Russ who actually 0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:46.800 came outcause first it was just us. But when Russ 0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:49.760 first came on, all of us smiled like everyone. It 0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:53.640 was just like a repression thing. But when I looked 0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:55.800 at that footage, I said, no, that can't come out 0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:58.480 because how but you said something to me saw could 0:25:58.600 --> 0:25:59.960 to day. I was like, yo, I didn't even really 0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:02.200 after that happened. I was like, I didn't really know 0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:06.200 how much they are accusing Rossa and all this. And 0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:08.600 you said something to me that I've never heard before. 0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:13.280 You said, yeah, we're we're male privileged. And I said, 0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:17.080 I had never heard, like, you know what I'm saying, 0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:20.160 the privilege. We have a certain privileges as a man 0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:23.119 that we don't even that. It's not like we're blocking 0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:26.760 the door, we're gnoring it second nature. I had never heard, 0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:32.399 had never heard of that before, uh, Todd lip so so. 0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:35.600 And then I did my research, you know. I spoke 0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:39.800 to Mark Marc Lamar after he was argument rose a 0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:42.359 little bit too. Yeah he was, I was arguing, but 0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:44.720 it was lazy about So I went back and watched 0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:46.800 my first drink Champs that I did the first time 0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:52.520 when I got really drunk. It was great. But I 0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:55.920 brought Rose up in that drink chance and you said, well, 0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:57.960 she's Puerto Rican, I need to meet, we need to breathe. 0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:00.200 So it's bug I was like, oh, I mentioned Rose 0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:02.720 in the first time years before. It's funny that you'll 0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.119 started arguing and the comments were her. I mean I 0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:07.480 had a couple of exchanges with her on Twitter. I 0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:14.040 think it was mad, like it was calm. And my 0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:16.640 thing is and this goes out to a sister Rosa 0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:18.560 who I don't think I've ever met, and if I did, 0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:23.760 I apologize if I don't remember, But the cancel coachha, 0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:27.159 because this is what made me mad, and it's what 0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:30.960 made me upset, just by having rustled on. She said 0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:37.040 drinks Champs hates black woman is crazy. Okay, well I 0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:40.719 don't know what that is. Okay, that's good whiskey right there, 0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:42.080 So let me be fritis. I don't want to just 0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:44.600 leave that out there an atmosphere in the universe. So 0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:47.760 the thing about it is, I ain't supposed to know 0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:52.960 everything that's proper. Sometimes you gotta just take time out 0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:54.840 of you instead of coming at somebody and this in 0:27:54.920 --> 0:28:00.960 them that was all co side. Actually more or less 0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:04.200 didn't use the episode more for my son Tyd lived 0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:07.560 quality because these are my brothers who I look too 0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.360 for my consciousness. You understand what I'm saying. And when 0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:14.359 they didn't and Lamar, even Lamar Hill didn't say nothing. 0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:17.880 He put his head down. But I appreciated him and say, yo, listen, 0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:20.960 yeah he'd be after the fact. He went straight the Twitter. 0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:24.720 He went straighting Twitter, and I had to accepted, had 0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:26.800 to accept it because this is the day in time. 0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:29.359 But he was trying to cover his ass, which he 0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:33.600 was supposed to do. But like I said, and this 0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:36.919 day and time, I see the comedians that have an 0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:39.719 a rough time because they can't say certain words they 0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:43.480 can't And I just wanted you to touch on that 0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:45.400 a little bit. That when you hit me with the 0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:48.400 male privilege. Okay, but we I think we all in 0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:51.600 this room understand a bunch of dudes in this room. 0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:55.840 The first. First of all, like I love this show. 0:28:56.920 --> 0:29:00.560 This show needs a lot more women about That's the 0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:03.680 first thing. And that's you know, that's not us. We've 0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:07.200 invited them. We've invited So even with my Shapedo's party, 0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:10.960 I found it's very easy, especially in a hip hop 0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:13.720 space that's just toosterone driven to fall into the habit 0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:15.960 of just booking men because it's men that running this 0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:20.880 ship is. We don't want to do this and we 0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:23.680 won't really book guests no more the guest book. Okay, 0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:28.240 So that's it's kind of like, so what with the females. 0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:31.040 We reach out and females is different because they you know, 0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:32.600 you gotta deal with the man as you gotta do 0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:34.680 what their boyfriends you gotta deal with From day one, 0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:39.560 Queen Latifa a little kid like we we we we've 0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.360 reached out, but I want to leave y'all because I 0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:45.040 go above and beyond to reach out to women to 0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:46.800 give him my show to make it more balance. And 0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:49.840 that's a challenge. It's not it's not easy, but but 0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:52.840 because we have what back to the point I was saying, 0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:55.720 or everybody in his room, we understand white privilege. We 0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:59.680 understand that if you're born white, it doesn't matter whether 0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:01.720 you're what, you're poor. If you're born white, you're born 0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:05.040 with a certain amount of privilege and society. Right. So 0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:07.600 if you're born male, and that even goes for black men, 0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:10.280 if you're born male, you're born with a certain amount 0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:12.680 of privilege, certain doors open up for you in society 0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:14.760 to open up for women. The most glaring example is 0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:17.760 paid the pay rate. Women get seventy cent to every 0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:20.040 dollar that men make. That's the most glaring example. You 0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:22.920 know what I'm saying. But we everyone, Everyone has a 0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:26.080 specific amount of privilege. Straight white men have more privilege 0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:28.920 than anybody. Straight rich white men have more privilege than anybody. 0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:31.320 But everybody got some sort of privilege. And you don't 0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:35.160 become a jerk by having privilege. You become a jerk 0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:37.440 if you just don't ever acknowledge it. I think in 0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:42.080 no spaces we had some conversations. We sometimes fall into 0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:44.680 the male privilege, whether it's intentionally or not. And I 0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:46.920 think that's I think that's what we was doing in 0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:50.360 in that conversation. And so when Russell came on, I 0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:52.640 don't want to get it to the weeds about what 0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:55.520 who thinks Russell did what? The fact is that the 0:30:55.600 --> 0:31:01.040 accusations are out there, accusations have been made by credible individuals. 0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:03.320 These are not random people. These are people who have 0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:07.720 credibility in our business. The fact is that Oprahto pulled 0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:11.280 away from doing a documentary rustle because she couldn't I 0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:13.320 can't speak up. But she pulled away from it, right, 0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:16.480 So I thought he deserved the doubt from that. But 0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:18.880 that's not your platform. Are you allowed to do that? Right? No, 0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:23.120 I actually walked away from it. Actually, actually I said, 0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:26.520 well we we I didn't understand it, but I remember 0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:28.640 that episode. I wasn't even there, so I forget what 0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:31.840 my reason was. I wasn't on that and I found 0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:34.520 out after the fact, and I still found myself arguing 0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:38.600 with trying to defend our stands. And I'm gonna tell 0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.400 you something, just because we never broke it up, next 0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:45.800 time you see your person that's of your culture, that's 0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:49.400 doing something that's culturally not appropriate, you can do the 0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:52.600 same way he was DM and we were flipping on 0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:57.680 each other. Was a good ship too, sister. You let's 0:31:57.720 --> 0:31:59.560 go to each other to be understeing. I'm going to 0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.800 check the Rosa love you. Me and me and Rosa 0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:05.600 had had me. Rose had heated conversation about this. Me 0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:07.760 and Rose. That's my good friend. But we don't agree 0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:10.160 on every single thing. We had which we check each other. 0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:12.480 We had a heated conversation about it because her whole 0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:16.640 thing was the whole thing is at the age we at, 0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:19.320 we're supposed to know better. My whole thing was, I said, 0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:21.680 you gotta look at who Noriega is. This is a man. 0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:24.160 If you know his hip hop hip hop history, you 0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:26.960 know where Nori comes from. You know he comes from poverty, 0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:29.560 He come from situation. He built himself up out of this. 0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:31.560 And now this man who has been to jam, this 0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:34.200 man who has been through the system, is now realizing it. 0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:36.520 As an older man, I have an opportunity to take 0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:39.280 what I learned and be more positive. So let's give 0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:42.640 the brother space to grow. We're gonna be progressive. We 0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:45.360 can't assume that he knows what we know. Did I 0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:48.000 actually like, I heard the allegation, and let me just 0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:50.800 be something clear. Not taking up for Russell because if 0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:53.120 he's guilty of things that he's guilty of, then I 0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:55.000 feel like he should face the consequences. Right, there's no 0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:57.720 as about it. But this man that they describe I've 0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:01.800 never mad. I have never meant like, if you're gonna say, 0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:04.880 and I'm not saying a crime should be forgiving or whatever, 0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:08.080 but if you bring up who I was at eighteen 0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:10.400 years old, I'm not who the fucking guy I hate. 0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:14.479 Would I wouldn't hang out with that guy hanging out 0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.040 with the take your old version of me. He's an asshole. 0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:18.880 You know what I'm saying. He didn't. He doesn't want 0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:21.200 to come home. This guy comes home to his family. 0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:24.120 So I tend not to do that to someone else. 0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:25.760 You know what I'm saying, Why would I judge you 0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:28.040 on what you was who you was at eighteen and 0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:31.640 and you got to realize that. I'm not making no 0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:35.320 excuses for anybody, but the culture was different back then. 0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:37.719 People would literally walk up to girls and smack him 0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:39.880 when they asked. Women would literally do that to me 0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:42.080 in the office. I'll be getting the headcut. Get up 0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:45.640 a woman, Bob. I didn't know I was being me too. 0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:52.080 I didn't. I don't something you understand I'm saying what 0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:54.680 that was. I'm not not col siding it, but what 0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:57.200 I'm saying is that was it was more likely you 0:33:57.320 --> 0:34:01.480 to walk in and see somebody, uh one of the CEOs, 0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.400 somebody's up there, assistant sitting on their lap. That that 0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:06.600 was kind of the normal back then. Not not co 0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:09.520 signing it, not saying it was right, but seeing it 0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:12.400 wasn't abnormal. Yeah, you know that's the thing. That's what 0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:14.880 they talk about rape culture being normalized. It was so 0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:17.799 normal back then that we accepted it is okay. It's 0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:20.239 our job to grow and progress and change. And that's 0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:23.680 the thing with cancer culture and the only thing that 0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:26.200 the thing that's bad about it is is not giving 0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:29.120 people the chance to grow and progress, like like right now, sorry, 0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:31.680 right now, right. I don't know if you follow cam, 0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:35.360 but Cam got this this twenty nine c right, this 0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:38.279 girl from his building. She's following him, she's talking him. 0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:41.520 We're all laughing at that, right, we're laughing. He's feeling 0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:44.040 he's running away from up. Had that been a man, 0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:46.560 that wouldn't have been funny, right right, Has that been 0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:49.560 the other way around him doing that? I can see 0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:55.319 someone calling the police. And this is where our male 0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:58.759 preface comes in because women, and this is something I've learned, 0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:01.640 it's like I grow older when that happens to women, 0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:05.239 they beget murt Like when when dudes be stalking with 0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:07.440 like women, when dude, you know, when when women get 0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:10.800 cat cold and dudes they get rejected, dude, women be 0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:13.440 getting violently assaulted, And that's what it is, Like women 0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:18.200 go through that so much that Harlem. You know what 0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:21.759 I'm saying, that the community stood up and yeah, oh 0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:26.279 I see the after effect. What happened. Um, some dude 0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:27.800 try to hole at her. She's like, no, you know, 0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:32.560 I'm good. Then when she left, just beat up. Women 0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:35.920 be going through that for so long that with men 0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:38.160 like and we've been social. Look, I just went through 0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:40.880 some ship recently with somebody saying some ship about what 0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:42.680 happened with me. When I went back to the situation, 0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:44.800 I'm like, if I had did that to a woman, 0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:48.200 that would have been raped what this woman did to me. 0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:50.600 But as when it happened when I was like my 0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:52.480 early twenties in my career, we looked at us and 0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:56.600 fly ship. So what happened advantage? I didn't look at 0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:59.200 it like that at that time. Give me no exctasy, 0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:01.239 but just the way which she was coming at me 0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:04.160 and the way in where she was like pressed about 0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:06.520 the ship where I found myself hiding from this woman, 0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:08.959 you know what I'm saying. And I told my friends 0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:12.080 are on some funny ship. But twenty years later, I'm like, well, 0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:15.360 not I was sexual harassment right all right? But I 0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:18.360 thought it was fly because I never had that cat calling. 0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:21.000 I never had that attention. I never had until I 0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:23.759 became a rapper. What I'm saying, But we're like, we 0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:26.080 gotta figure like the conversation. But I think all of 0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:29.960 us know for a fact that rape culture, everything that 0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:33.080 we're talking about, none of us coach signed starts to 0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:35.960 get murky. Is the cancel culture side of it, where 0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:40.640 it just every the society has become judge and jury. Boom, Well, 0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:42.680 how you draw out the baby with the bath water? 0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:44.799 How do you throw out everyone? And I'm not even 0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:46.759 gonna start naming names because I don't want nobody to 0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:49.800 can but let me how you were here for that 0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:51.880 because we couldn't handle it like that because we was 0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:55.399 on zoom zoom get called out, you would get cut 0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:57.399 off when you're trying to This is not it. We're 0:36:57.440 --> 0:36:59.520 here for this time. We're here to happen. Okay, so 0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:02.319 let's let's let's break it down. We just actually let's 0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:06.080 just tell you something. But I just noticed they're trying 0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:08.319 to go and take Russells ship off for all these 0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:13.560 like his name of the Tatsu Harvey is you can 0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:19.160 still watching Mary Max. You're not man, but you can't 0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:24.760 destroy the legacy pops up, Bro, I'm the other day company. 0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:28.439 Other days Netflix wasn't working, my my my Prime video 0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:30.239 wasn't working, my whole it wasn't working. So I went 0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:33.160 back to cable and I watched the regular cable until 0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:36.320 the ship well, and I'm just randomly just don't do 0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:39.400 movies and still seeing his name pop up on offist 0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:42.560 you Cable. Not wrong, but I think that the thing 0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:45.879 we have to do as men is realized that because 0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:47.880 we teach our children this, we teach our children were 0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:49.640 just because he's doing it doesn't mean it's okay for you. 0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:51.560 So as men we have to be like, Okay, yeah, 0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:55.520 Harvey Washtein exists and Jeffrey Epstein exists, but just because 0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:57.800 they exist, we can't use what about us, and we 0:37:57.840 --> 0:38:00.400 can't see what about this. We have to we have 0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:02.480 to own our ship. So I think you can't from 0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:05.640 a place where you didn't understand the ramification, but now 0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:10.319 that you do, I still actually understand fully because I'm 0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:13.320 looking at people reposting Russell Simmonds, that's a woman, but 0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:17.399 he's a thing that him being bied doings and said 0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:20.319 not me. Yeah, But what I'm saying is, but even 0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:22.960 if women in proximity has not he didn't do it. 0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:24.759 He has not been, but he's not been. He's not 0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:27.000 been r But let me ask you this. Yeah, just 0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:28.960 like you had to ask me about it, now that 0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:31.920 you know, with knowledge comes responsibility. You couldn't have me 0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:33.880 on the show without asking me. So now that you know, 0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:36.319 if Russell was sitting in his chair, you know you'd 0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:38.200 be asking. I have to laugh. You know what I 0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:40.080 would do. This would be my first time I had 0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:43.120 somebody goes right my video, my interview. I would actually 0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:45.319 go let Rose and give me all the question. Yes, 0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:48.520 you give me the question that in that instance when 0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:51.320 he joined the zoom should have been But that's and 0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:53.919 that's where I was going. You didn't do it because 0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:56.320 you didn't know, But had you known. The way for 0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:58.879 us to do it is we can't We can't say 0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:01.400 that Russell Simmons is not worthy to be in the conversation. 0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:03.480 But if he's in the conversation, well then we got 0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:05.560 to deal with it. To say that that you asked Carriss, 0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:08.680 what about coming like, we're not We're not going to 0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:11.120 not have caress. That's why we aren't going to ask 0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:12.960 to her. You know what it was I didn't realize 0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:15.760 that I'm also a journalist too. I wasn't being a journalist. 0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:17.239 I was being a Black Lives Matter was being a 0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:22.719 black person being a journalist. And I see Mark Head 0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:26.879 goes to market the journalists for hen to the actor, 0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:32.600 he was like, Yo, what was that? Yeah? Yeah, soon 0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:34.920 as you we hung up Head treat. It's like Mark 0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:38.640 Lamart said, he's not what. I'm like, what the fuck? 0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:42.719 And I had to deal with it. But again, sisters, 0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:46.320 our coach of people that really like, you really know, 0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:49.000 I love this coach. You really know that, you really 0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:52.560 know I'm coming from a place of almost stupidity if 0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:55.480 I coaturally don't be appropriate sometime I'm coming from a 0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:59.600 place of stupidity, not a straight stupidity. You don't you 0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:02.640 should didn't chastize me for every stupid move, but for 0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:05.719 every move that you take. Sometimes you really need to 0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:07.920 just hit somebody and say you're listen, bro, you might 0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:10.279 not want to do that. Boom boom boom, boom boom boom, 0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:12.120 and then you take it from there. I had a 0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:14.480 little Kim on my show and she talked about being 0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:17.200 a teenager when she dropped that album cover hardcoorn, how 0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:19.520 niggas and jail loved it everything. And she said she 0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:21.600 thought she was just having fun being a young lady. 0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:23.719 And as see the Lorias, Tucker and them came and 0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:25.920 they was steamrolling her CDs and she said something interesting, 0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:28.400 She said, I was just a child. Why did this 0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:31.200 older black lady hit pulled me to the side and 0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:33.040 give me some life advice? And I don't know what 0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:35.040 I was doing, but why did they attack me? Media? 0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:37.560 Doesn't that even the way you just said it right now? 0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:39.680 Maybe even creepier though that that cover that she was 0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:46.960 a child? Like whoever the imagery I'm saying now that 0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:49.680 we're older now the way you're saying she's a child, 0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:55.040 I got a daughter. But that was the culture back then, 0:40:56.400 --> 0:41:00.440 sexual ship going on, like the people were openly about 0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:03.120 eating pussy and sucking dick and and all. This is 0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:06.239 this is what we hit, was Deliverment, and it was 0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:08.520 a part of it, like watching this ship go down, 0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:11.680 this super sexist ship going down. It was we you 0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:16.359 guys are la grow but I don't. I don't think. 0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:19.520 I don't think you can attack delric You think Luke 0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:22.080 Luke got daughters. You think he was thinking of that now, 0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:23.880 but he doesn't want to have to be careful. We 0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:26.200 can't attack the freedom of speech either, and and and 0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:28.440 freedom to be creative. I don't know whether to me 0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:31.080 there's a finalance I supposed to. Let me just say, 0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:33.520 because Luke ended up running for office and Luke as 0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:36.799 him doing positive, let me just say, imagine that housing 0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:40.600 you back then. It doesn't matter how sexual girls sucking. 0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:47.680 What I want to say is, no matter what ratchees, 0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:50.400 no matter what Rache ratchet ship you went to as 0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:52.800 a rapper, he was the only one you said you 0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:59.239 can't smoke camera, you end up being a conscious, conscious rapper. 0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:02.400 Matter said, if you get to a certain you go 0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:04.680 play if rappers a video game, and you get to 0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:06.960 the boss, you get to the top. If you if 0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:09.359 you survive all the ship to rap, you either become 0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:11.479 even if you're not conscious of your lyrics, you become 0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:16.040 a conscious individual. Every gangster rapper from Too Short to Nori, 0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:18.560 you know that everybody turned to new if you survive 0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:26.640 a ship. Okay, yeah, man, you're right. Yeah, this is 0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:31.440 a good conversation because I actually don't know which we 0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:38.160 may not be qualified for this may in it, but 0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:42.239 and that and that's what's interesting is when I look 0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:45.799 at Simon's thing and I see that woman support him 0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:49.160 so like so like that's why it's weird to me. It's, 0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:51.440 like I said, it's one of those subjects where it 0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:54.160 is it's just in the I think it's about personal responsibility. 0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:56.319 There's some women who like rustle then do not wrong. 0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:58.759 That's some women that's that's like he's a rapist, But 0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:01.239 it's about we can't judge how we're gonna behave on 0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:03.239 how others we had to look. You know, we have 0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:07.080 Russell is Russell Simmons, that's Russell Rush. Like we can't 0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:09.640 erase what he did a hip hop but you know, 0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:11.279 he's just I think because of what he did in 0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:13.279 hip hop, because we really done for the community, he 0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:16.480 deserves to have his voice heard. Now what he says 0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:18.959 with his voice, we'll have to judge. And I'm gonna 0:43:18.960 --> 0:43:20.759 tell people like this that I never said this story. 0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:23.799 Hopefully I think I never said this story, But those 0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:28.879 women deserved that. He definitely not publicly. When now had 0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:32.920 a seven shootout happened and they banned us. They banned 0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:36.640 us immediately. They pulled every record from Compona Noriega to Noriega, 0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:39.800 to thugged out to the firm. Whatever record I was on, 0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:44.080 they pulled it. They pulled it. You know who got 0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:48.279 me to get back on the Radio's Russell. He was 0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:51.200 dead for me the time that I needed him. I 0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:53.840 gotta say, the hardest conscious rapper out now is Camponent. 0:43:56.440 --> 0:43:59.600 Get back to that and with a key time for 0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:03.880 me to show back that favor. I stood with the woman. 0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:08.479 M hmm, I want to make that clip. I still 0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:11.640 with the woman because I but I think I don't think. 0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:14.000 I don't think. I don't think it's mutually exclusive. I 0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:16.840 think you could show solidarity for women as to respect 0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:20.279 Russell's contributions to your life, to this coach. I tried to, 0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:23.839 but when the comments was so well, when they were 0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:26.040 and then and what they were doing was I felt 0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:28.600 bad for our partners because they were blaming it on 0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:33.040 um uh the title and puff there was like look 0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:36.160 at this puffing and jay Z puts Russell Simmons on 0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:42.000 Russell Simmings on Dreamcat like you got nothing. So it 0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:46.920 was crazy and we're we're doing hip hop effects uncovered 0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:50.440 with our big you bid me and he said the 0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:53.279 only part that they hated. Is that the studio made 0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:56.239 him take Russell Simmons out, he said, but they let 0:44:56.360 --> 0:45:01.919 us interview murderous. He said, look at our markets. Yeah, 0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:06.799 that's that's the mother ship, right, some other ship that's 0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:09.160 like that day Chapelle jokes six and Stones where he's like, well, 0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:13.400 I'm not a nigger either. Yeah, that's this is a 0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:16.000 deep conversation. This is deep, man. I ain't even looking 0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:19.920 at my notes. Holy mouse, you said you go above 0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:23.880 and beyond to book more female guests. Yeah, what is 0:45:23.920 --> 0:45:26.399 it that you're doing. Give us an example. Shout out 0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:29.400 to my team because we haven't had light on, but 0:45:29.440 --> 0:45:31.520 we've had We've had We've had a lot of female guests. 0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:33.600 We had last week, we had Dasher Polanco. Next week 0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:36.319 is Sonny Anderson. Um Sonny told said to say what's 0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:40.000 up as well? I know that that's one of us. Yeah. 0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:44.600 There was an argument on the squad because they kept 0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:47.319 booking really good guests. We had busted d M mex 0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:49.640 And and I'm like, yo, I gave him a list 0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:51.960 of women the book. I'm like, make sure you get 0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:54.279 I gave him as ten women. I said, get your 0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:56.959 bad and that average needs to be three hundred book 0:45:57.080 --> 0:45:59.239 three of these women and then months went by. We 0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:01.239 get in dope, ask but they ain't getting none in women. 0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:04.640 And I'm like, yo, if I'm not pushing to get women, 0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:07.680 we we we all as the team are default is 0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:09.879 to just be comfortable with the with the male talking, 0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:12.440 you know, and it's like we, I think we need 0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:14.640 to balance and I think people like us who had 0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:17.920 the platforms we gotta fight for it. Um yeah, we 0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:19.880 we just gotta fight for it. And shout out to 0:46:19.920 --> 0:46:23.200 your coat as well. Now you worked on a low 0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:25.880 end theory with TP called chust. Yeah, you know on 0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:29.840 the song show bits I run on that song. I 0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:34.160 didn't that you should tell the story about how you 0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:36.400 got on that record. Okay, yeah's all right? So this 0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:38.120 this this is crazy right. I went down I went 0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:40.400 down to the to the session to play some beasts 0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:44.960 for Tipper. Yeah. Yeah, just just want I feel bad 0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:47.600 over yet that you want some of this. I want 0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:52.200 somebody st a little bit. I'm gonna be honest, I am, 0:46:55.080 --> 0:47:01.960 but just man, Mr Lead, who's the whiskey drinker who 0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:06.520 comm to Jamison? Yeah? Mr Lee? So show business right, 0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:11.200 tripical quests. So I go down to Battley Studios, and 0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:15.919 I'm trying to play tests joints. Um. Oh so I'm drinking. 0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:26.960 I didn't know that, yeah, so a little m so 0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:31.400 I'm playing tips and beats. Um. At this point, Tipping 0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:34.120 Knew had a deal for the Stunts Pluss and Hip 0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:36.880 Hop album. We would see each other, like Jackie, we 0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:39.400 will see each other up about Jazz j Studio up 0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:43.719 in the Bronx. I'm down here playing beats for him 0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:49.759 and Lord Jaman some diet they show up, they do 0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:52.840 they do their verses right. Well, the first time they 0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:55.920 they did verse, Pooba was there. I wasn't there the 0:47:55.960 --> 0:47:59.239 first time, but anyway that what happened was Pooba his verse. 0:47:59.440 --> 0:48:02.040 You know he was told been him out gaze and 0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:05.080 you know, just kicking in the buck. You know, he's 0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:08.040 a father center so you already know this stance. So 0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:11.640 Job is like, all right, listen, we love pool By, 0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:15.160 you know, asking to write a new verse. Poop. I 0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:18.080 was like, what, you're dead on that? So he didn't 0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:20.120 want to write a new verse. Who was on a lecture? 0:48:20.200 --> 0:48:22.640 There was on the lecture at that time. But but 0:48:22.760 --> 0:48:24.279 this is this is on I'm cute, this is on 0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:27.000 Trapical quest albums. I know you said job and that 0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:31.000 job so um. So when I showed up to play 0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:33.360 play took some some beats. He was like, yo, you 0:48:33.400 --> 0:48:36.439 want to jump on the song all right? I was like, hell, yeah, 0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:39.000 you know what I mean. So that, like me being 0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:41.240 on that on that album kind of set up my album, 0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:44.480 you know, because the Lower Theory came out maybe a 0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:47.360 few months before Stunts, blunt and hip hop. You know 0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:49.880 what I mean? But how many mcs round on the 0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:55.920 tribe bobum, you know what I mean? I did, It's 0:48:55.960 --> 0:48:59.680 only of us, just take that's crazy though. It was crazy. 0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:02.640 I watched the documentary the other day and I cried 0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:08.480 like I never saw it again because when I saw 0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:11.600 him and que Tip argue, I actually called coupon. I 0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:13.320 didn't tell him what I was calling him. I was like, 0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:15.080 you know, you know, I just want you to know 0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:18.680 I leve you, bro, And he was like, because it's 0:49:18.680 --> 0:49:23.399 just weird, just love you. Because I related to cute 0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:27.360 Tip and both was making sense. I was, yeah, I 0:49:27.480 --> 0:49:29.919 was both for them. At one point. I was like, oh, shoot, 0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:31.960 he's right, but then the other one would saying something. 0:49:32.000 --> 0:49:38.600 I was like, how is he? I looked and I 0:49:38.760 --> 0:49:46.239 was like, wow, and it's crazy, because, yeah, I think that. 0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:49.839 I think the most slept on two in the hip 0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:53.560 hop is the hip hop documentary. Like since Rhyming Reason, 0:49:55.800 --> 0:49:57.920 I watched Around the Reason twice a year. Just makes 0:49:57.960 --> 0:50:02.160 your my mom right and he best slow down over 0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:06.160 there over there, man, you know what I'm saying. They 0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:08.600 helped me drink the champage, so you know, you got 0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:12.160 all the brothers helping, you know. But I think that's 0:50:12.200 --> 0:50:15.120 the most slept on the hip hop documentary. Like I 0:50:15.200 --> 0:50:17.359 would love to see a Black Star. I would want 0:50:17.360 --> 0:50:20.319 to Black Star documentary more. Did I want a Black 0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:23.919 Star album after that? I've never made a film before 0:50:23.920 --> 0:50:26.200 in my life. But after we do this, I'm gonna 0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:28.879 show y'all a ten minute rough for the Black Star 0:50:29.000 --> 0:50:32.000 documentary that I've been working on the last two years. 0:50:32.080 --> 0:50:34.000 Last two years. Okay, wow, I'm saying some of that 0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:38.640 ship has been filmed on my iPhone. But documentary first 0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:41.319 of doctors my favorite style of the film. I feel 0:50:41.320 --> 0:50:44.279 like I'm being entertained and learning something at the same time. 0:50:45.120 --> 0:50:47.920 But yeah, that that is hill into that. Yeah. I 0:50:48.080 --> 0:50:50.080 was on the Tribal album because I went to the 0:50:50.200 --> 0:50:54.239 Afro punk cute Tip was in Brooklyn to see Ice 0:50:54.280 --> 0:50:56.879 Cube perform. He was performing at Afro Punk, a couple 0:50:56.880 --> 0:50:59.880 of blocks from where I stay. You see how just 0:51:02.960 --> 0:51:04.640 and Q tipping me and decided we're gonna work in 0:51:04.680 --> 0:51:06.000 the record. We've been talking about the song. You know, 0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:08.920 Tipp is talking about a record of two years I'm 0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:12.279 trying to get this record. Five passed away, and so 0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:14.880 in my mind, I'm like, funk that record. I'm never 0:51:15.000 --> 0:51:17.359 asking for that record again. Like if I hit, if 0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:19.920 I hit, Bro, it's just on some just what's up? 0:51:20.520 --> 0:51:22.719 You know what I'm saying, because like the friendships in 0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:24.719 the in the brotherhood is more important than I was 0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:27.040 getting a studio. And when I seen him, it was 0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:29.080 the first time I seen him since Fife passed. And 0:51:29.160 --> 0:51:31.200 I'm like, you know what I'm saying, And he's like, Yo, 0:51:31.480 --> 0:51:33.000 what happened to that song? We're gonna do the song. 0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:35.120 I was like, hey, bro, you know what I'm saying, 0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:38.640 Like we could do the song, but he invited me 0:51:38.680 --> 0:51:40.120 over the crib. When I went over the crib as 0:51:40.160 --> 0:51:42.360 him drove me there and they listened in the songs 0:51:42.400 --> 0:51:44.960 of him and Fife did that nobody had heard and 0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:47.640 they listening to Tip his mixing records and he's like, yeah, 0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:51.279 I'm dropping a tropical Quest album And I was like, Yo, 0:51:51.360 --> 0:51:54.360 would you mind if I'm on the last album. I 0:51:54.480 --> 0:51:56.399 just came through his house every day to watch him 0:51:56.400 --> 0:52:01.919 work on this album. You want him beat Rob? Yeah, 0:52:02.320 --> 0:52:06.920 just kid, give me, just give me that ship. But yeah, man, 0:52:06.960 --> 0:52:08.719 it's one of my friend paid me. I was like, 0:52:08.880 --> 0:52:12.919 you get paid. I was like, I supposed to listen 0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:17.000 his jobs could move when you was because that was 0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:21.000 Beach Robs in Life is a is an underrated trial album, 0:52:21.520 --> 0:52:25.200 but the connection, the Queen's connection and the connection they 0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:28.200 made between the North East side of Queens to see 0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:30.040 an inside of Queens and the trial Quest side of 0:52:30.080 --> 0:52:32.799 question was very important for the coaches because it wasn't 0:52:32.840 --> 0:52:35.400 too later. I'm gonna tell you something. I fight first heard, No, 0:52:35.600 --> 0:52:37.719 you know what it is and you know that you 0:52:37.800 --> 0:52:41.040 know Jack, he didn't really feel me at first, like 0:52:41.520 --> 0:52:46.560 kind of Jack fight competitive competitive. And the other connection 0:52:46.640 --> 0:52:49.280 to that album is the guy who created our logo, 0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:55.920 Scam who did that album. When I'm on is he 0:52:56.000 --> 0:53:03.600 a Beach Life for Love movement? Love movement? Yeah, that 0:53:03.760 --> 0:53:08.919 was just just just whiteum cover. When when when When 0:53:10.400 --> 0:53:12.680 when you watch the documentary like that David d and 0:53:12.800 --> 0:53:17.320 all the relationships and ups and downs, did you see like, 0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:19.880 Because I'm gonna tell you something that's makes gonna make 0:53:19.920 --> 0:53:24.319 me sound very, very very naive. I didn't really see 0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:27.279 Fife look that sick like I saw him. Did you 0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:30.600 notice that in real life? No? Like whenever I saw 0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:33.880 a Fife, I never really saw him sick. Right? Was 0:53:33.960 --> 0:53:36.680 you living in Atlanta the same time he was there? Um? Yeah, 0:53:36.760 --> 0:53:39.160 I saw him that I was seeing. You know, you don't, 0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:41.360 like when you're sick, you don't come outside, so you 0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:44.480 know he's outside. You know he's Fife. But you know 0:53:44.640 --> 0:53:47.359 most people who were sick on that level, when they're sick, 0:53:47.400 --> 0:53:49.560 they stay indoors. Yeah, you know what I mean. You 0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:50.719 know you don't want to be you know, you don't 0:53:50.719 --> 0:53:52.600 want to come around and people cheat you like like 0:53:52.719 --> 0:53:55.839 like like a pity case. Because I I didn't see 0:53:55.840 --> 0:53:58.600 the same thing with Punt. People said they were signs. 0:53:58.840 --> 0:54:01.480 The only thing I've seen on with Pun he got bigger, 0:54:02.080 --> 0:54:04.120 but not that didn't even make me so I didn't 0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:06.200 even Knowice like because he was just I just always 0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:09.160 met him as a big guy one of the signs. 0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:11.480 I didn't know this was bad form TV video shoot. 0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:14.480 I remember me talking and we're just kicking it, and 0:54:14.640 --> 0:54:17.000 he just went into sleep and he just started snoring. 0:54:17.480 --> 0:54:20.120 So I thought my story was trash. Like I didn't know, 0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:27.680 Like I was like, really stepped my game the sleep 0:54:29.360 --> 0:54:31.440 sleep for me. And it wasn't till later on when 0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:36.040 it was like, yo, that's that's that. But I didn't know, 0:54:36.239 --> 0:54:38.840 like I mean, even down to the funeral. You know, 0:54:38.920 --> 0:54:41.160 they gave everybody like a certain amount of time to 0:54:41.280 --> 0:54:43.840 go to the casket. And I sat there and I 0:54:43.920 --> 0:54:46.560 sat down, and I guess I got in the praying stance. 0:54:46.800 --> 0:54:48.800 I don't even know how I got there, but and 0:54:48.840 --> 0:54:50.960 I kept crying. And I remember the people from TS like, yo, 0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:52.400 he's in a better place. I was like, how's it 0:54:52.440 --> 0:54:54.759 in a better place. It's like he's not suffering. I'm 0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:57.719 like suffering. They're like, yeah, no, you't know. And I 0:54:57.880 --> 0:55:00.680 didn't see pun stuffing. Is that meet me him naive 0:55:01.440 --> 0:55:05.279 or you know, just like probably winning around him like 0:55:05.320 --> 0:55:08.440 that either, And maybe he didn't show that side himself 0:55:08.480 --> 0:55:10.600 to you. It's like when he said if you if 0:55:10.640 --> 0:55:13.320 he felt bad, he probably din't come out when he 0:55:13.400 --> 0:55:18.680 felt better. Now, what what's up with Lord Finess? Lord? Yeah, man, 0:55:18.719 --> 0:55:21.480 that's my brother. Um for next, he just put out 0:55:21.480 --> 0:55:23.719 an album. Um, he just remixed UM a bunch of 0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:28.319 Motown records. UM and that that that that's incredible. Um. 0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:33.080 He's also he's out there on the West coast. You know, 0:55:33.120 --> 0:55:37.520 he running around. But your man Russell Peters, so you 0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:39.040 know he know, he do his thing. You know, he's 0:55:39.040 --> 0:55:41.280 still Djane. I'm trying to get Finesse to make another 0:55:41.440 --> 0:55:46.880 MC album. Wow, that would be tough. You know. You 0:55:46.960 --> 0:55:50.640 know what I just found out the other day. Cameron 0:55:50.719 --> 0:55:54.400 literally told me this yesterday. He said, you could go 0:55:54.480 --> 0:55:57.640 to the label right now and get hit him with that. YO. 0:55:58.280 --> 0:56:00.680 Nobody wants to be a master and on a mask 0:56:00.760 --> 0:56:04.359 at this point, right, So let's negotiate to get our 0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:08.480 master's back, to go back. He said. If they say no, 0:56:09.160 --> 0:56:11.719 it's a it's a legal law that you can go 0:56:11.920 --> 0:56:14.279 in and do your old he said, you know, he 0:56:14.360 --> 0:56:16.480 said eight year statue limitation on that. Did you have 0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:18.200 you heard of this? To do your over you can 0:56:18.200 --> 0:56:24.359 do your whole album? Yeah, what say arrested that the community? Yeah, 0:56:24.440 --> 0:56:25.839 he did that. He did that. He had an album 0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:27.799 that he sold the rights too early in his career. 0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:29.640 Then he blew up and he went back to the dude. 0:56:29.680 --> 0:56:31.879 He said, listen, I got this amount of money, give 0:56:31.920 --> 0:56:33.600 me to write some my out back. The dude was like, no, 0:56:33.719 --> 0:56:35.560 it's too valuable. So he just went and did the 0:56:35.560 --> 0:56:38.359 whole set over, recorded it over at a comedy club, 0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:46.200 joke for joke, and put it out himself. He got 0:56:46.280 --> 0:56:51.359 arrested right after. Yeah, this was after. This was after 0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:55.400 his arrest. He was hanging with him and it was 0:56:56.280 --> 0:57:00.719 we just saw him at the bar. You drinking, but 0:57:00.800 --> 0:57:02.880 I could see how he was drinking. To the killer, 0:57:03.040 --> 0:57:06.960 I said, he's gonna be fit he get arrested tonight. Yeah, yeah, 0:57:07.239 --> 0:57:10.719 I kind of. He is sober since theant really don't 0:57:10.760 --> 0:57:15.480 drink like like like drunk Hannibal bro like that. That 0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:18.000 is a great guy when he's drunk. Oh my god, 0:57:18.080 --> 0:57:21.160 he's good. Let me qualified because he did say this 0:57:21.320 --> 0:57:23.600 to me, because I said, you're sober now. He said, listen, 0:57:23.920 --> 0:57:30.000 I just don't drink. So yeah, that's that's that's real. 0:57:30.120 --> 0:57:33.800 That's real, old movie, block of movie. How long you 0:57:33.880 --> 0:57:38.120 had your studio in Midtown Manhattan? Came here once seven 0:57:38.440 --> 0:57:42.080 eight years and that's ship that was like my best 0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:49.800 worst investment. No, that's miss mys All thunked out. Yeah, 0:57:49.800 --> 0:57:52.480 I had the best location. We didn't have the best equipment, 0:57:52.800 --> 0:57:55.520 We didn't have the best anything else, just the best location, 0:57:55.840 --> 0:57:59.720 just the fruits on, but carry was there. What I 0:57:59.800 --> 0:58:03.600 know was back then was people didn't want to come 0:58:03.600 --> 0:58:05.280 to see me in Queens because they just thought that 0:58:06.000 --> 0:58:07.919 whatever part of Queen's he from, it gotta be bad. 0:58:09.120 --> 0:58:13.160 Which was when this town, which was not right then 0:58:13.200 --> 0:58:15.520 when I went. I had one in Jersey. I had 0:58:15.520 --> 0:58:19.200 a studio in Jersey. Uh, people didn't want to travel. 0:58:19.240 --> 0:58:21.760 They felt like Jersey was out of town. And I 0:58:21.840 --> 0:58:23.880 had my joint I was in. Were talking which was 0:58:23.960 --> 0:58:27.160 like the next town, but no one, no one could convinced. 0:58:27.760 --> 0:58:30.320 But when I got the hood, lad was on thirty 0:58:30.400 --> 0:58:32.960 second in Madison. Between thirty first thirty second in Madison, 0:58:33.200 --> 0:58:36.400 it was the location everyone from Mike Ryan Carry the 0:58:36.760 --> 0:58:41.120 Diamond d the big ticket UH to e FN. Everybody 0:58:41.160 --> 0:58:44.480 would go because their hotels is ten minutes away. Everyone 0:58:44.560 --> 0:58:51.360 said it was so exactly, it was so hotel. It 0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:55.040 was dope because at the time, you know, they didn't 0:58:55.040 --> 0:58:57.400 look at me as a person that's gonna send an invoice. 0:58:57.960 --> 0:59:00.880 So if I put Norrie Studio, because you know, I 0:59:00.920 --> 0:59:03.320 had to send invoices for people but booking sessions, like 0:59:03.600 --> 0:59:06.720 I literally paid myself to be called my own at 0:59:06.840 --> 0:59:10.760 my own studio, but they wouldn't give me the money 0:59:10.840 --> 0:59:14.000 like Homeboy Exchange. I had to literally make a studio 0:59:14.120 --> 0:59:16.800 session logging you know what I'm saying, and then present 0:59:16.960 --> 0:59:20.920 depth with the joints that's took the Hood lab instead 0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:24.360 of like Norwri studio. But yeah, it was a great investment. 0:59:24.400 --> 0:59:27.760 I should have actually made it a real studio where 0:59:28.320 --> 0:59:30.320 you know, other people could rent it out, because if 0:59:30.360 --> 0:59:32.040 you didn't know me, you wouldn't rent this ship out, 0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:36.200 like you know, like listen to me, like what's her name, 0:59:36.280 --> 0:59:40.480 Evie Queen, the reggae throng artist, Evie Queen, since she 0:59:40.600 --> 0:59:43.720 came to be called, came to be called and we 0:59:43.840 --> 0:59:46.520 were like fire niggers like we probably this is to 0:59:46.640 --> 0:59:49.640 be clear, I made it was fired in definitely right 0:59:49.680 --> 0:59:51.480 I told about we didn't mob, We didn't do none 0:59:51.520 --> 0:59:54.880 of that, but it was it was a vibe though. 0:59:54.920 --> 0:59:56.919 You would go there and make five six records because 0:59:56.920 --> 0:59:58.760 we had a vibe but we didn't really clean. We 0:59:58.880 --> 1:00:02.960 cleaned once maybe twice a month. So yeah, I mean 1:00:03.040 --> 1:00:04.960 it just had to I was trying to make D 1:00:05.080 --> 1:00:11.640 and D D. But yes, like we would have the 1:00:11.760 --> 1:00:14.760 NBC with the NBC box on it like that it 1:00:14.840 --> 1:00:17.240 came in like you know, using people somebody by a table. No, 1:00:17.720 --> 1:00:19.520 we just just kept the box that came on the NBC. 1:00:20.600 --> 1:00:24.440 So get back to this story. Evie Queen is starting 1:00:24.480 --> 1:00:27.240 to record and in the room that she recorded and 1:00:27.320 --> 1:00:30.440 we had carpet, but she walks out of the room 1:00:30.480 --> 1:00:33.920 that we recorded and without her shoes on. I was like, 1:00:34.120 --> 1:00:40.280 no shoes we got, we got. E got a little 1:00:40.320 --> 1:00:43.680 crazy here. I don't want to just jump on your point. 1:00:43.760 --> 1:00:45.240 She was like, why might be dome from together? I 1:00:45.360 --> 1:00:48.360 was like, this might be worse than together, like they 1:00:48.440 --> 1:00:51.000 might be harving things on the flute. You gotta go 1:00:53.320 --> 1:00:56.320 your own, Madison. So each year the rent got higher 1:00:56.320 --> 1:01:01.760 and higher, but it was dope for for me that time, Expirit, So, 1:01:02.160 --> 1:01:04.720 what's what's your favorite part of hip hop? Is? It? 1:01:04.840 --> 1:01:09.320 Is it making the record, performing the record everything, but 1:01:09.520 --> 1:01:13.040 as a producer, creating something out of nothing, you know 1:01:13.080 --> 1:01:15.320 what I mean, that's that's that's that's the dopest family 1:01:15.400 --> 1:01:21.959 for me. What about you? The fact that black people 1:01:22.040 --> 1:01:26.480 marginalize people, people who come from nothing could take art 1:01:27.160 --> 1:01:33.400 and create a megaphone check to broadcast what we experienced globally. 1:01:34.320 --> 1:01:37.200 I think it's fly. Yeah. I like that too. Yeah, 1:01:37.280 --> 1:01:41.960 I like how you already dead like you, I don't 1:01:41.960 --> 1:01:45.320 know you you noticed? I remember we used to have 1:01:45.480 --> 1:01:48.520 to wait for our albums to come out in England, 1:01:48.760 --> 1:01:51.120 like they would literally come out two months later in 1:01:51.200 --> 1:01:55.160 the UK versions and the UK version. And now that 1:01:55.280 --> 1:01:57.200 you can just make an album and that's it could 1:01:57.200 --> 1:02:00.280 be in Japan the same day it's in forty Priest Jackson, 1:02:00.320 --> 1:02:04.120 it could be in the same days in Brooklyn, it 1:02:04.160 --> 1:02:08.480 could be Osaka and all that. I think that did 1:02:08.520 --> 1:02:11.920 you think? What do y'all think about streaming? Though? Man? 1:02:11.960 --> 1:02:16.320 I've been having this conversation. It's accomplished, really yeah, man, 1:02:16.400 --> 1:02:20.640 because people yeah, man like like because this n f 1:02:20.760 --> 1:02:24.120 T ship is popping off, right and it's just popping off, 1:02:24.160 --> 1:02:25.680 and you can sell a picture of us right now, 1:02:26.040 --> 1:02:28.040 off a picture of us and that could be worth 1:02:28.360 --> 1:02:31.040 six and we get and we get with the right people, 1:02:31.360 --> 1:02:34.040 get read right team. We could sell it and become millionaires, 1:02:34.920 --> 1:02:39.200 possibly the royalties as it gets so definitely have a 1:02:39.280 --> 1:02:43.640 situation where streaming was always unfair. The price point is unfair, 1:02:44.160 --> 1:02:47.280 but if you create something, you get to create the 1:02:47.360 --> 1:02:49.920 price point, just like any business. But the thing that 1:02:50.040 --> 1:02:52.040 makes the most unfair is that we don't get to 1:02:52.160 --> 1:02:56.000 see what Apple. We get to see, but with titles Spotify, 1:02:56.160 --> 1:02:58.000 something we don't. We don't get to see Think you 1:02:58.080 --> 1:03:00.640 get to see Apple, you think, but you really don't. Right, 1:03:01.160 --> 1:03:03.400 we don't get to see the whole ship. So it's 1:03:03.440 --> 1:03:05.840 like they're telling us, look, this is your percentage, but 1:03:05.880 --> 1:03:07.959 they're not telling us what they're making. They're not telling 1:03:08.080 --> 1:03:09.920 us you know. And that's the whole problem with it 1:03:10.560 --> 1:03:13.800 is that it's not transparent. We were making we're making 1:03:14.120 --> 1:03:22.400 pieces of a penny for each stream. But the problem 1:03:22.560 --> 1:03:26.040 is you have to make a decision as a as 1:03:26.080 --> 1:03:29.280 a businessman or and a creator. Are you a populist 1:03:29.680 --> 1:03:32.200 who wants the people to hear whatever you got to hear? 1:03:32.480 --> 1:03:34.480 Are you only in it for your bread and you 1:03:34.520 --> 1:03:36.720 don't care if a small elite group of people hear it. 1:03:37.160 --> 1:03:39.760 Because if you're a populist, then you're gonna work within 1:03:39.840 --> 1:03:43.400 the system of music assumers are getting their ship from Spotify. 1:03:43.760 --> 1:03:45.760 So if you're populist, you want your ship of Spotify, 1:03:45.800 --> 1:03:48.320 you want people to hear it. They're not, they're not 1:03:48.600 --> 1:03:50.560 you know what I'm saying. But if you just if 1:03:50.680 --> 1:03:53.520 if that's not important to you, well then you could 1:03:53.560 --> 1:03:55.680 just make your ship exclusive and only a certain people 1:03:56.240 --> 1:03:59.440 you know, Rock Marciano, certain people. Certain artists have figured 1:03:59.480 --> 1:04:01.760 it out, right, they have made it to where a 1:04:02.240 --> 1:04:06.640 Nipsey figured it out. You know, you can follow the example. 1:04:06.760 --> 1:04:09.440 But that's where the conflict is for artists right now. 1:04:09.760 --> 1:04:13.200 It's like do you sell your soul so that the 1:04:13.360 --> 1:04:17.440 masses can hear your ship or do you keep it 1:04:17.560 --> 1:04:22.160 more to your more exclusive or finding that balance where 1:04:22.200 --> 1:04:25.600 you utilize what's there now, But you're always working towards 1:04:25.960 --> 1:04:29.080 getting away from that. Like a Strange Music where they 1:04:29.160 --> 1:04:32.479 found that the physical side, they've been able to sell 1:04:32.640 --> 1:04:37.360 physical like like no other label has today to whereas 1:04:37.440 --> 1:04:40.400 Techno is number three on the forms list in terms 1:04:40.440 --> 1:04:43.600 of toring income. But then pandemics hit and that's the 1:04:43.680 --> 1:04:46.640 type of things that that affect I'm speaking of that 1:04:46.760 --> 1:04:49.800 have that aspected your yeah bag like um as far 1:04:49.920 --> 1:04:54.000 as not being able to do shows. Has that been 1:04:54.440 --> 1:04:56.920 effective for you, because I know, like big overseas, like 1:04:57.400 --> 1:05:00.880 big overseason, I mean for me and not related my business, 1:05:01.760 --> 1:05:05.360 because my entire business model was based around Torn. I'm 1:05:05.560 --> 1:05:08.840 very just stopped having much based around Torn a year ago, 1:05:10.160 --> 1:05:13.000 right on time, right, So I'm very blessed that I 1:05:13.080 --> 1:05:15.600 found certain situations and I figured some sh it out, 1:05:16.240 --> 1:05:17.880 and you know what I'm saying, like to whereas I 1:05:17.920 --> 1:05:20.160 can still I just a good opportunity for me to 1:05:20.200 --> 1:05:22.360 plug my book. I had a book deal, I wrote 1:05:22.400 --> 1:05:24.320 my book. I've been trying to get the book out, 1:05:24.520 --> 1:05:26.560 but when the pandemic hit, I focused on that. I 1:05:26.680 --> 1:05:28.919 was like, Okay, let me focus on getting the book. 1:05:28.920 --> 1:05:32.960 As a book is called vibrate higher, Vibrate higher. Happy 1:05:33.240 --> 1:05:36.840 you got your copies out there. It's it's it's um 1:05:37.640 --> 1:05:41.200 getting rave reviews. It's it's my my autobiography mixed in 1:05:41.320 --> 1:05:43.160 with social commentary and the history of the hip hop. 1:05:43.200 --> 1:05:46.360 I was listening to at the time Mays for that. 1:05:46.440 --> 1:05:51.440 God damn. So I've been you know, but it's it's 1:05:51.480 --> 1:05:55.160 been very um. People don't like to hear artists or 1:05:55.240 --> 1:05:58.720 celebrities complained because we chose this. You know what, I'm saying, 1:05:59.160 --> 1:06:02.560 but it's been very hard to figure it out. But 1:06:02.600 --> 1:06:04.200 I've been blessed to be able to pivot in a 1:06:04.240 --> 1:06:09.200 way now, Diamond, you worked with forty five King back 1:06:09.200 --> 1:06:12.320 in the day. How how was that? I never got 1:06:12.360 --> 1:06:15.480 to work with him as a producer, Like I always 1:06:15.560 --> 1:06:17.760 kind of admired, I never got a chance. How was that? 1:06:17.960 --> 1:06:24.120 How was the experiencing with you? Um yo? Like I 1:06:24.640 --> 1:06:28.320 was a fan, like you know Hetrom the Bronx, but 1:06:28.520 --> 1:06:30.400 at that time I didn't know you know what I mean, 1:06:30.560 --> 1:06:33.840 but shouts out to Mark. You know, Mark is the 1:06:33.920 --> 1:06:36.960 one um. In the early nineties, Russell Simmons had a 1:06:37.000 --> 1:06:41.040 thing called RPM Rush Producer's Man and easy Mobi was 1:06:41.160 --> 1:06:43.760 over there. There was a few few other producers over 1:06:44.120 --> 1:06:47.800 a lot of professor was over there, and you know 1:06:47.920 --> 1:06:49.640 forty five King. He made a phone call and he 1:06:49.680 --> 1:06:51.240 got me and he set up a meeting with me 1:06:51.360 --> 1:06:55.080 over there. This when Francesca spiroit was over there and 1:06:56.080 --> 1:06:58.320 they wanted him signing me. So you know, he had 1:06:58.360 --> 1:07:01.240 a big, big hand like in my early production career 1:07:01.440 --> 1:07:04.480 him and shouts out to my man DJ Jazzy J. 1:07:04.680 --> 1:07:07.600 Of course he's the one who like taught me foundations. 1:07:08.880 --> 1:07:10.560 You want to do the shot a shot, I don't 1:07:10.560 --> 1:07:12.560 know what you gotta tell you? How about show Business 1:07:12.600 --> 1:07:17.680 A g How was it working with them shows? Come on, 1:07:17.840 --> 1:07:20.760 you know we'll be with each other, so you know, 1:07:20.920 --> 1:07:26.320 it's just family. That was a tough album. You made 1:07:26.360 --> 1:07:29.360 that whole album. Oh no, no, I co coulduce thum? 1:07:29.720 --> 1:07:32.919 Can I get a soul? Clapp? Me and show Biz 1:07:33.040 --> 1:07:35.720 we we both did that drink okay okay, So that 1:07:35.880 --> 1:07:37.800 was like that was like one of the first big joints. 1:07:38.360 --> 1:07:40.480 Then they would on to do other great things. You 1:07:40.520 --> 1:07:43.560 know what I mean. Did you think the like hip 1:07:43.600 --> 1:07:47.280 hop and how pure it was? You think that now, um, 1:07:48.960 --> 1:07:51.120 that we would have an artist like Cardi b like 1:07:51.240 --> 1:07:53.080 doing like I think if she did a hundred million 1:07:53.120 --> 1:07:55.800 the other day or she's the first some crazy. I 1:07:55.840 --> 1:07:58.160 mean she's the first female artist shout out out to 1:07:58.240 --> 1:08:01.200 Cardi beats from the Bronx. But it's like it's dope. 1:08:01.280 --> 1:08:05.280 It's dope. I personally love card But it's so different 1:08:05.680 --> 1:08:07.760 back then you already know knowing it. Like in the nineties, 1:08:07.840 --> 1:08:10.880 it was just the lyric system is like really taken seriously. 1:08:11.360 --> 1:08:13.439 Everybody got their shots, right, I mean, you got your shots. 1:08:14.000 --> 1:08:16.439 I'm a shot at what already got. Okay, cool, cool, cool, 1:08:16.560 --> 1:08:22.360 very smart. You learned from drink Chace lesson your listen. 1:08:22.400 --> 1:08:24.080 We don't know if y'all know, but this is about 1:08:24.360 --> 1:08:27.639 you know, and in this business, it's about giving people 1:08:27.720 --> 1:08:31.040 these flowers to they face. You know, you guys are 1:08:31.080 --> 1:08:33.280 two or great. I can't believe how. I can't wait 1:08:33.320 --> 1:08:35.400 to hear how this album sound. Can't wait to read 1:08:35.439 --> 1:08:37.479 the book, can't wait that you keep supporting. That's what 1:08:37.600 --> 1:08:39.519 we do over here. We support each other. Man. You 1:08:39.560 --> 1:08:40.680 know what I'm saying. As you can see, I got 1:08:40.720 --> 1:08:43.880 my DJ college jacking on, boy boy, I didn't get 1:08:43.960 --> 1:08:50.479 this for three day. Make sure y'all check out Organic 1:08:50.560 --> 1:08:56.040 Food Kings. I had a steak from Organic Organic Food Kids. 1:08:56.800 --> 1:08:59.400 When I was speaking the Organic Food Kings, they said, 1:08:59.400 --> 1:09:01.200 come through, We're gonna take care of you. So I 1:09:01.280 --> 1:09:02.720 was like, I gotta go through because they showed me 1:09:02.800 --> 1:09:04.680 so much love. I went through, but I did to think. 1:09:04.800 --> 1:09:06.880 I was on my way the airport and I was like, 1:09:06.880 --> 1:09:09.880 I don't want to eat vegan food in the She 1:09:09.920 --> 1:09:11.840 didn't want to eat vegan food in the car with 1:09:12.000 --> 1:09:13.759 the masks and ship on the way to the airport, 1:09:14.040 --> 1:09:15.240 and I'm like, it's not gonna be good when I 1:09:15.280 --> 1:09:16.479 get to the airport. And I was like, I'm gonna 1:09:16.479 --> 1:09:20.760 go anyway. And I went anyway, got the ship and 1:09:21.000 --> 1:09:24.080 ate the ship at the airport and she was still good. 1:09:24.760 --> 1:09:35.120 Far was faring about the questions too far. There's no 1:09:35.280 --> 1:09:36.880 far vegan food. You know, there's a lot of vegan 1:09:36.880 --> 1:09:41.240 food making me far you ever vegan fool? I'm not 1:09:41.520 --> 1:09:51.000 a little bit right here. Yeah, sometimes I'll be far ridiculous. 1:09:51.920 --> 1:09:55.760 Ter view is going off. Sometimes it's a good, healthy part. 1:09:57.320 --> 1:10:07.000 That's what. Sometimes. Sometimes gotta part break. Sometimes you gotta lee, 1:10:07.120 --> 1:10:09.240 you gotta you gotta talk a little bit about big 1:10:09.320 --> 1:10:14.120 Out and the legacy. Yes, I feel like we don't 1:10:14.479 --> 1:10:18.120 we don't talk enough about Bigger. I mean, you know Bigger, 1:10:18.360 --> 1:10:20.479 you know, definitely was on his way to being one 1:10:20.520 --> 1:10:22.920 of the greatest. Think you know, people are already look 1:10:23.000 --> 1:10:24.720 at him that way, and you know he's been dead 1:10:24.800 --> 1:10:29.280 all these years, you know what I mean. Um, especially 1:10:29.360 --> 1:10:31.560 that one freestyle session he had with jay Z on 1:10:31.600 --> 1:10:36.519 a stretch your arm strong, Yeah, kind of kind of 1:10:36.600 --> 1:10:39.720 handled jay Z up there. He was supposed to be 1:10:39.720 --> 1:10:41.880 signing the Rocket Feller yeah, you know what I mean, So, 1:10:42.439 --> 1:10:46.520 I mean, what can you say? You know? Lamont definitely 1:10:46.840 --> 1:10:52.719 one of the best um lifestyles of the um foreign dangerous, 1:10:52.760 --> 1:10:56.040 It's dangerous right then. Um the second album The Big 1:10:56.120 --> 1:10:58.680 Picture that wind up going go and he wasn't even 1:10:58.720 --> 1:11:00.400 here to see that, and all the indie stuff he 1:11:00.479 --> 1:11:05.400 did and big like the first Street when the Streets No, 1:11:05.600 --> 1:11:08.360 Scott the Rock was when the Streets got involved with 1:11:09.120 --> 1:11:11.840 a rapper killing. But I was about to let me 1:11:11.880 --> 1:11:14.599 correct myself. I think Scott the Rock was the first 1:11:14.680 --> 1:11:16.360 year that was a D Nice beef he went over 1:11:16.520 --> 1:11:23.720 the squashing Wow, Yeah, who big El it was? I 1:11:23.760 --> 1:11:30.560 think he said a D nice beef. That's that was 1:11:30.600 --> 1:11:33.360 the d J D Nice beef. Really, I've never heard 1:11:33.439 --> 1:11:35.000 this you would like to talk about. I think I've 1:11:35.000 --> 1:11:37.760 seen this somewhere. Evidently he went over there try to 1:11:37.800 --> 1:11:42.920 squash it. He's a social worker. He was doing crazy 1:11:43.600 --> 1:11:46.640 don't go in the community. Yeah, he's still in the 1:11:46.680 --> 1:11:50.400 hood like that. But definitely big El definitely going going 1:11:50.479 --> 1:11:53.439 through soon. What was your favorite big El drinks? We 1:11:53.479 --> 1:11:57.439 had to pick one. I ain't gonna live I gotta 1:11:57.479 --> 1:11:59.760 pick him all. Like, I've never heard the rack bigger 1:12:00.200 --> 1:12:02.400 record I've never heard of I never excuse me, let 1:12:02.439 --> 1:12:04.120 me go deep it in that I've never heard of 1:12:04.200 --> 1:12:06.800 rap big eel verse like I've never heard of verse 1:12:06.880 --> 1:12:09.400 where he just you know. My favorite moment was I 1:12:09.840 --> 1:12:12.200 didn't even know he knew who I was, and I 1:12:12.280 --> 1:12:13.840 said this on the cam and for the other day 1:12:13.840 --> 1:12:15.560 he was doing. He was like yo, because there's like 1:12:16.000 --> 1:12:18.400 you fell back. It seemed like he wasn't rapping. He's 1:12:18.439 --> 1:12:22.559 like no, I wasn't inspired until Cam Nori and dear 1:12:22.640 --> 1:12:27.600 Mex and I was like this, he's a herald to me, 1:12:27.720 --> 1:12:29.519 Like I still be bugging out, like when a person 1:12:29.680 --> 1:12:32.320 like you know, shot with like what up? Norm like 1:12:32.439 --> 1:12:35.519 what you know? Like you know, because I'm just I 1:12:35.640 --> 1:12:38.640 downplayed myself. But that was my favorite moment. He had 1:12:38.720 --> 1:12:40.720 rhymed right before that, and just the fact that he 1:12:40.800 --> 1:12:44.320 had recognized me, because I don't think he understood how 1:12:44.439 --> 1:12:47.479 much I admired him, know what I mean? So like 1:12:47.880 --> 1:12:50.720 I never expect the person I'm a fair enough to 1:12:50.760 --> 1:12:52.479 be a fan of me, you know what I'm saying. 1:12:52.479 --> 1:12:54.880 But it doesn't take away, it doesn't take it away, 1:12:54.920 --> 1:12:56.720 like like if I finally you're not a fan of 1:12:56.840 --> 1:12:58.920 like aigh school. You know, I still respect you know 1:12:58.920 --> 1:13:01.600 what I'm saying? Like, um, all right, now, let me 1:13:01.600 --> 1:13:04.080 switch the subject a little bit. Right. One of my 1:13:04.160 --> 1:13:07.160 favorite rappers of all time is this guy named Granddaddy 1:13:07.200 --> 1:13:10.240 at you, right, grand of you. That's one of my 1:13:10.400 --> 1:13:13.599 number ones, right, but I never wanted to sound like Granddad? 1:13:14.360 --> 1:13:17.960 Why are these why is everybody? Right now? You can 1:13:18.040 --> 1:13:20.560 say yo, A new kid could come out of his 1:13:20.640 --> 1:13:22.800 name could be Smoke Champ and he can say, yo, 1:13:23.520 --> 1:13:25.920 who's your favorite artists? I like future? And we could 1:13:25.920 --> 1:13:29.559 be like we know because we have ship. You're real quick. 1:13:29.720 --> 1:13:32.600 You just post some with Granddaddy at you? Yeah, but 1:13:34.240 --> 1:13:36.360 I do back to that. Okay, yeah, let me go 1:13:36.520 --> 1:13:39.719 back to that. But why is why is these guys 1:13:39.840 --> 1:13:43.360 actually sounding like the people to day admyering and things 1:13:43.400 --> 1:13:46.240 like that? What's going on with this culture? What do 1:13:46.280 --> 1:13:49.920 you think? I take the hip hop at some point, 1:13:50.920 --> 1:13:54.439 like every art form that because mainstream started being made 1:13:54.560 --> 1:13:58.160 on assembly line type of thing and to whereas they're like, okay, 1:13:58.280 --> 1:14:01.719 especially when the radio station started being owned by certain 1:14:01.760 --> 1:14:05.400 corporations in frost the country and you went from regional 1:14:06.000 --> 1:14:08.559 DJs and program directors having power to the point where 1:14:08.600 --> 1:14:10.040 it's like, well, you got a problem to the playlist 1:14:10.280 --> 1:14:14.760 handed down. So yeah, it's just it just becomes it 1:14:14.840 --> 1:14:20.679 just becomes a consistency who had who makes the most whoppers? Yeah, 1:14:20.800 --> 1:14:23.080 and I think that so. So kids who grew up 1:14:23.200 --> 1:14:24.680 listening to music like that, We grew up in the 1:14:24.720 --> 1:14:27.519 era where we heard different influences or or you can't 1:14:27.680 --> 1:14:29.840 or like if you if you somebody traveled, you went 1:14:29.880 --> 1:14:32.280 from New York to Miami, it's a whole different sound. 1:14:33.000 --> 1:14:35.800 And so you were able to remember when like Uncle 1:14:35.880 --> 1:14:38.000 Luke used to come to New York. It was a party, 1:14:38.120 --> 1:14:40.280 used to hang out with Red Alert and Funk Flex 1:14:40.320 --> 1:14:41.840 and all them, and it was a whole it was 1:14:41.880 --> 1:14:44.640 like Uncle Lukes intown, We're gonna do this Miami thing. 1:14:44.680 --> 1:14:47.439 But it's like definitely a different thing. Um. And I 1:14:47.520 --> 1:14:50.240 think the culture is missing sort of that respect for 1:14:50.400 --> 1:14:54.599 the for different what I will say, indigenous sounds. Um. 1:14:55.680 --> 1:14:59.400 And I think that, Um, that's that's the whole problem. 1:14:59.439 --> 1:15:02.439 So kids who rolling up these days, just like how 1:15:02.520 --> 1:15:04.600 we grew up. We grew up wanting to be successful 1:15:04.960 --> 1:15:06.680 and we looked at our favorite artists and that's how 1:15:06.720 --> 1:15:09.160 you do it. Okay, it'd be different to be creative. 1:15:09.200 --> 1:15:13.720 That was that was success is you just copy the 1:15:13.760 --> 1:15:16.080 next nigga. They look at that, they say, Okay, that's working. 1:15:16.120 --> 1:15:17.920 There was There was ever when I when I came 1:15:17.960 --> 1:15:20.960 into business where this mad fake drink chaps out there 1:15:21.600 --> 1:15:29.040 up successful. When I remember when I came in for me, 1:15:29.200 --> 1:15:32.679 that's who I was ruining it with. What I noticed 1:15:32.760 --> 1:15:36.040 the shift was people stopped wanting to be dope m 1:15:36.160 --> 1:15:40.200 c s and dope DJs. Puff was killing it. People 1:15:40.240 --> 1:15:42.439 stopped wanting to be dope em you're run into him 1:15:42.800 --> 1:15:44.760 love hip hop and what you do you DJ is 1:15:44.840 --> 1:15:47.799 and now he's a No, I'm a CEO, I'm an executive. 1:15:47.840 --> 1:15:51.280 People wanted people wanted to be record executive and industry people, 1:15:51.520 --> 1:15:53.759 and that was different from me, Like I never wanted 1:15:53.800 --> 1:15:55.800 to be a record industry person. But now that's a 1:15:55.920 --> 1:15:57.800 thing that somebody wants to be. I want to be 1:15:57.880 --> 1:15:59.840 a mogul. I want to be They're not wrong with that, 1:16:00.280 --> 1:16:02.479 you know, but it just that's shifted. And so now 1:16:02.680 --> 1:16:04.720 kids they see what's going on. They just want to 1:16:04.760 --> 1:16:08.120 be like this certain artist, and and why why don't 1:16:08.120 --> 1:16:09.439 they why why don't they want to be like that? 1:16:09.600 --> 1:16:12.240 That's obviously a path to success. They're not. They don't 1:16:12.400 --> 1:16:14.200 get the real though. They don't know that that's a 1:16:14.280 --> 1:16:16.719 once in a lifetime thing. They don't know that one 1:16:17.120 --> 1:16:19.280 out of a million make it. They don't know that, 1:16:19.479 --> 1:16:23.639 so it becomes copies. Shout out to legend Jerobe would 1:16:23.640 --> 1:16:29.960 just be now, Diamond D, has there ever been a 1:16:30.080 --> 1:16:35.040 time you know, you come from the no com commercial era, 1:16:35.600 --> 1:16:38.240 like y'all motherfucker's just making it was right to be 1:16:38.360 --> 1:16:46.080 on the radio? I mean remember this, soio, have ever 1:16:46.160 --> 1:16:47.920 been a time a record label that came to you 1:16:48.000 --> 1:16:50.160 and said, yo, I want to cross over a record 1:16:51.120 --> 1:16:55.960 and if so, did you ever do it? Uh? Probably 1:16:56.040 --> 1:16:59.760 closest I came to that was the Black Panther sound 1:17:00.000 --> 1:17:03.360 like that song freedom have all all the top female 1:17:03.479 --> 1:17:08.720 artist singing on it. Oh, I want to see if 1:17:08.720 --> 1:17:15.840 you win commercial. I mean not mean I would. It's 1:17:15.880 --> 1:17:17.400 in business, you know what I mean. You don't want 1:17:17.439 --> 1:17:19.000 to pleasure. You don't if you produce, so you don't 1:17:19.040 --> 1:17:22.479 want to be pitching holding to one thing right yourself 1:17:22.479 --> 1:17:24.800 yourself with this service, you know how like they say 1:17:24.960 --> 1:17:27.240 it is a premiere sound or do you feel like 1:17:27.320 --> 1:17:30.120 Diamond D has a sound. It's a certain sound of diamond. 1:17:30.439 --> 1:17:34.839 Someone say I do, but I know, I guess instances. 1:17:34.880 --> 1:17:38.920 I feel like to the Dompie's albums, right, I mean, 1:17:40.320 --> 1:17:43.680 there's a it's fluid, but every joint is different. I 1:17:43.760 --> 1:17:45.960 gotta say though I can't. I can't pick a diamond 1:17:46.000 --> 1:17:49.360 dbat so you can't listen to say that you can't know. 1:17:49.600 --> 1:17:51.800 I mean if you tell me diamond made and I'm like, okay, 1:17:51.840 --> 1:17:54.639 that makes sense. But even with this Gotham album, there's 1:17:54.640 --> 1:17:57.320 so many different textures of sounds, of flavors that I'm 1:17:57.360 --> 1:17:59.640 not like, It's not like I hear a beat and 1:17:59.640 --> 1:18:03.320 I'm like, oh, that's definitely a diamond. I don't and 1:18:03.479 --> 1:18:05.960 like Permiere like when you're here Forrell, but it's not 1:18:06.160 --> 1:18:11.760 it's not bad, that's not it's also it don't happen 1:18:11.760 --> 1:18:13.960 to sit at your sound too. It's also because like 1:18:14.000 --> 1:18:17.479 it's not ruining it because everybody has this run when 1:18:17.479 --> 1:18:20.839 you're a produce a where it's like now a producer 1:18:20.960 --> 1:18:23.599 might be able to do it, like Premiere, you could 1:18:23.680 --> 1:18:25.880 you could answer this question better, Premiere, Pete Rock or 1:18:25.960 --> 1:18:28.200 somebody might say they'd be like, that's a diamond. DP 1:18:28.960 --> 1:18:31.040 maybe they here might be trained, but I can't do 1:18:31.120 --> 1:18:33.120 you know what I'm saying. They might know the sounds 1:18:33.280 --> 1:18:37.360 usually they might even maybe they know the snare you use. 1:18:37.840 --> 1:18:40.120 But you know, it's not look crazy that Jerue just 1:18:40.200 --> 1:18:42.679 came here and did not just say I just watched 1:18:42.680 --> 1:18:51.400 a documentary. That's just crazy. It just suck up. I 1:18:51.520 --> 1:18:53.479 just run up that no idea he was coming down. 1:18:53.760 --> 1:18:56.320 I just routed it up. I just can't. We gonna 1:18:56.320 --> 1:19:00.720 bring you in bro as well. But oh yeah, quick 1:19:00.720 --> 1:19:03.320 time you're ready, all right, so this we're gonna do 1:19:03.360 --> 1:19:04.840 this real quickly, gonna bring you rob. What do you 1:19:04.960 --> 1:19:09.720 do because quick time, quick answers he wants. It's an 1:19:09.720 --> 1:19:13.400 a n B answer. But if you want to say both, 1:19:13.439 --> 1:19:16.519 it's cool. You just gotta take a shot. If you 1:19:16.560 --> 1:19:18.400 say both, you gotta take a shot. If you want 1:19:18.439 --> 1:19:20.120 to be political, you gotta take the shot. You gotta 1:19:20.160 --> 1:19:22.120 take the shot. You want to be political, you gotta 1:19:22.160 --> 1:19:27.160 take the shot. All right, all right, you ready, first year, 1:19:27.479 --> 1:19:32.960 But it's saying jay z or nay jay z. Oh, 1:19:34.439 --> 1:19:41.439 I'm taking a shot. Take a good I like this. 1:19:42.680 --> 1:19:45.799 Oh listen, take that and then um just fill yourself 1:19:45.880 --> 1:19:48.040 up again, because I just know you know what you're 1:19:48.040 --> 1:19:50.280 doing that you don't gotta make it a pretty shot 1:19:50.360 --> 1:19:52.560 if you think you know me. I think so, I 1:19:52.680 --> 1:19:54.479 think so that I think it mightn't know. I'm not 1:19:54.520 --> 1:19:58.679 sure if a diamond going with it, but not ether 1:19:58.920 --> 1:20:05.639 was better. Okay, okay, I respect that, no doubt can Okay, ready, 1:20:06.120 --> 1:20:13.800 I'm starting with you. I'm starting with Big all big fun. 1:20:15.479 --> 1:20:22.120 I'm gonna take a shot with you. I got from 1:20:22.160 --> 1:20:24.880 my game face this and I think I don't think 1:20:25.160 --> 1:20:27.040 hold on the next time yet, hold on, hold on, 1:20:28.720 --> 1:20:32.559 big big one. I would he had the look taking 1:20:32.600 --> 1:20:43.439 a shot. Just take the shot, man. It's something wrong 1:20:43.479 --> 1:20:50.320 with the big puns rhymes to me, his his rhyme 1:20:50.400 --> 1:20:53.360 schemes a little more intricate. Doesn't mean that he was 1:20:53.439 --> 1:20:55.920 better or not, but his wrong just you know, a 1:20:56.000 --> 1:20:59.760 little more intricate in my opinion, and Big at that 1:21:00.160 --> 1:21:03.040 at that time. Okay, I mean, you know they both giants. 1:21:03.120 --> 1:21:05.840 But that's my answer. I don't know what the answer me, 1:21:10.160 --> 1:21:15.439 I would say, Big, alright, cool, I'm taking the diamond 1:21:15.479 --> 1:21:20.320 keeps wrong instruction, all right, I'm taking the right keeping. 1:21:21.120 --> 1:21:23.280 I'm about to walk out here funked up and miss 1:21:23.320 --> 1:21:25.160 my kid. And I can did last time. I don't 1:21:25.200 --> 1:21:28.680 do that. You're gonna take your shot. I'm starting with you. 1:21:31.439 --> 1:21:35.960 I'm gonna start have to answer these questions in terms 1:21:36.000 --> 1:21:40.479 of what they only in one category, in terms of 1:21:40.560 --> 1:21:45.040 just production, just straight production, straight production, premiere. Okay, that's good. 1:21:45.160 --> 1:21:50.280 I come here. Okay, let me get that later. Most 1:21:50.400 --> 1:21:54.880 death or common? Who are you asking that to both 1:21:54.920 --> 1:22:07.240 of your niggers in terms of what acting skill? What 1:22:07.360 --> 1:22:12.920 you're talking about skill in terms of acting skill? M 1:22:14.280 --> 1:22:17.320 m C. That was your comment is an MC motherfucker 1:22:17.520 --> 1:22:20.599 of course, so it's most deaf. I watched that motherfucker him. 1:22:21.040 --> 1:22:23.400 That's a that's a good most on the Dave Chappelle 1:22:23.520 --> 1:22:25.519 riding through Brooklyn, I thought I think it was Brooklyn. 1:22:26.160 --> 1:22:32.639 That's a good push. Well, so listen, you gotta be careful. 1:22:32.640 --> 1:22:34.719 That's a good pair. But they took a different I'm 1:22:34.720 --> 1:22:37.639 gonna teach you how to answer and still be politically corrected. 1:22:37.920 --> 1:22:40.400 I needed I needed here to answer, and if you 1:22:40.560 --> 1:22:42.439 let's me, I'm satisfied. I would take a shot for you. 1:22:42.520 --> 1:22:44.519 But if not, you gotta do this shot. But I'm 1:22:44.560 --> 1:22:48.240 gonna keep an answer. Okay, let's go. I'm gonna pick 1:22:48.320 --> 1:23:00.800 most deaf. You shoot up and that's all I gotta see. Cutkay, 1:23:01.080 --> 1:23:04.679 I can see that, all right, this is gonna be crazy. 1:23:04.720 --> 1:23:08.280 Look j Roby doesn't even know he was here. Midnight 1:23:08.400 --> 1:23:24.040 Marauders or low end Theory. J gotta leading room. No, no, no, 1:23:25.720 --> 1:23:28.560 because we're having a real deep Phipps. In terms of 1:23:28.760 --> 1:23:34.720 what's problem, it's quick one this time. It doesn't have 1:23:34.920 --> 1:23:39.519 much deep. I really want Jeros answer after. We're gonna 1:23:39.560 --> 1:23:41.680 get his after. We don't want him to funk up 1:23:41.720 --> 1:23:45.240 your opinion, so we want to hear yours first. Remember, 1:23:45.240 --> 1:23:47.000 if you go both, I'll drink what you I'm going 1:23:47.080 --> 1:24:01.400 to say Midnight Marauder as a producer, Midnight Mark definitely 1:24:01.479 --> 1:24:06.800 the just heard the progression in the production. That was hard. 1:24:07.400 --> 1:24:20.280 That was hard, That was hard. Turn came, but I'm 1:24:20.320 --> 1:24:26.040 gonna take a flash the emergence to fight door emergent. 1:24:26.080 --> 1:24:28.439 But it's like Godfather and Godfather too. There is no 1:24:28.520 --> 1:24:34.320 Midnight Marauders without lowing theory and without people. Okay, Miami 1:24:34.479 --> 1:24:37.040 or l A, either one of you. Miami, that's easier. 1:24:37.120 --> 1:24:38.519 It was about to say, it's a lot of Miami. Mother. 1:24:39.880 --> 1:24:42.439 I mean that I didn't even talk about that. Also 1:24:42.520 --> 1:24:44.880 that they both said, Miami, now this one right here 1:24:45.320 --> 1:24:53.639 up in the air, independent or major independent Independent, you're 1:24:53.840 --> 1:24:57.200 losing these man, we have this independent verse major debate. 1:24:57.280 --> 1:25:00.360 I'm and not talking independent. Tell me why you made 1:25:00.360 --> 1:25:03.080 you guy? Because I'm lazy to a certain extent. That's 1:25:05.640 --> 1:25:08.280 sometimes you just need a good partner to handle the business. 1:25:08.320 --> 1:25:11.160 You can just get that. Yeah, you know, it's it's 1:25:11.320 --> 1:25:13.320 I just I love it. But let's get out a 1:25:13.360 --> 1:25:18.559 quick time of slim and we'll come back. Okay, it's 1:25:18.600 --> 1:25:21.880 not it's not gonna be good for you. Bow or 1:25:22.000 --> 1:25:27.400 large pro. Oh man, to take the shot, take the shot. 1:25:29.400 --> 1:25:34.320 You take a shot, Take a shot. Shot. I think 1:25:34.320 --> 1:25:36.960 you're taking a shot too, like you're taking this shot. 1:25:37.680 --> 1:25:41.120 That's how I'm going with large prom. Okay, okay, I'm 1:25:41.160 --> 1:25:44.240 going large Pro. Not because all respect due to the great, 1:25:44.720 --> 1:25:49.479 the great, legendary, legendary, but for me personally, you know, 1:25:49.640 --> 1:25:53.559 sometimes you have a personal relationship with our large Large 1:25:53.560 --> 1:25:57.160 Professor did for me personally with that breaking Adam's album, 1:25:57.920 --> 1:25:59.840 I was, I was living with that album. I was. 1:26:00.240 --> 1:26:01.800 It was first like he made it for you. It 1:26:01.880 --> 1:26:04.400 was a personal Okay, I respect that you shouldn't take 1:26:04.439 --> 1:26:10.439 a shot for that, all right, Actor Brooklyn, Little Kimra, 1:26:10.520 --> 1:26:18.160 Foxy Brown, somebody that it was just women power, remember 1:26:19.479 --> 1:26:25.720 women powers. That this is the quiller. I'll take this here. 1:26:29.360 --> 1:26:31.760 I'm interested to hear what you're gonna say, Little Kima, 1:26:31.840 --> 1:26:37.519 Foxy Brown, another shot because that's your old shot. Yeah, 1:26:37.520 --> 1:26:39.080 I'm taking this game. I'm playing this game with my 1:26:39.160 --> 1:26:45.679 friends just a little bit. I like Foxy a little more. Okay, 1:26:46.040 --> 1:26:52.920 I'll expect that who four or five King or show bars. 1:26:56.000 --> 1:27:01.240 You're asking me, Yeah, you're asking you. Yeah, I'm going 1:27:01.360 --> 1:27:07.519 with show just because of that Godfather now jam made earlier. Okay, 1:27:07.800 --> 1:27:10.280 one can't come without the other. Right, where we going? 1:27:10.400 --> 1:27:30.599 Diamond drinking whiskey? Right because they both they both made 1:27:30.720 --> 1:27:33.360 joints that only day could have been. I can't really 1:27:33.360 --> 1:27:37.800 answer that. If my boy Brian all right, um, all right, 1:27:40.080 --> 1:27:47.200 I think this is this wass it fairly long? It's 1:27:47.240 --> 1:27:50.719 only three three more questions? Okay, this one should really 1:27:50.760 --> 1:27:55.280 be easy for both of y'all. Stretching Bobby though verse 1:27:55.360 --> 1:28:00.080 the Wake Up Show. I'm gonna stretching Bob because as 1:28:00.120 --> 1:28:02.000 a personal experience, I'm going to stress the ball too. 1:28:02.040 --> 1:28:07.360 Sorrys Wade sorry, we just we just were just looking 1:28:07.439 --> 1:28:09.920 up that with Swade. You're gonna take your shot, nobody 1:28:09.960 --> 1:28:17.080 asked you. Okay, Cardi br Nicki Minaj, Nikki that was 1:28:17.120 --> 1:28:24.800 fast taking a shot because he remember women improvement. Who 1:28:24.880 --> 1:28:26.640 does that have to do with this answer? I don't know. 1:28:27.920 --> 1:28:34.600 I'm taking a shot. They're Nicki minajs or Cardi B. 1:28:34.840 --> 1:28:44.080 In terms of what yo's artiste? Cardis the only lawyers 1:28:44.200 --> 1:28:48.439 during quick time of seeing nobody you can pass me 1:28:48.479 --> 1:28:50.920 that light of time. What do we talking about here? 1:28:50.960 --> 1:28:52.760 In terms of what? In terms of whatever you wanted 1:28:52.800 --> 1:28:57.720 to be an overall artist? Overall see drawn curveballs over here? 1:28:58.800 --> 1:29:06.920 He said ten minutes, overall artists. I reserved the right 1:29:06.960 --> 1:29:10.439 to change my answer. I reserved the right to change 1:29:10.479 --> 1:29:15.720 my answer in ten years. Okay, wait what I never 1:29:15.800 --> 1:29:19.599 heard this ten years? We're not doing dreat chance we're 1:29:19.640 --> 1:29:22.759 gonna come back to change my answer ten years. Okay, 1:29:22.880 --> 1:29:27.200 But as of now, yes, as incredible as Cardi B is, 1:29:28.960 --> 1:29:31.880 Nicki Minaj has done some ship. So I'm going with Nicki. Okay, 1:29:32.000 --> 1:29:36.560 all right, that took a long time. All right, this 1:29:36.600 --> 1:29:39.080 would be fit this might you might be taking a 1:29:39.120 --> 1:29:43.920 shot to this, Oh, oh, taking shots all three ah, 1:29:45.800 --> 1:29:53.200 dip set or the locks locks locks. Really, that was 1:29:53.479 --> 1:29:55.240 very easy. I didn't think. I didn't think you guys 1:29:55.479 --> 1:30:01.320 go listen the question to change the game. But for 1:30:01.439 --> 1:30:04.360 me personally, that's what it is. Now we get into 1:30:04.400 --> 1:30:07.160 the of course, it's about how you personally feel, how 1:30:07.200 --> 1:30:17.439 something exactly exactly. I respect that. Okay, I'm gonna take 1:30:17.479 --> 1:30:21.120 a shot right now. I'm going with. I'm going with, 1:30:21.360 --> 1:30:23.680 I'm going to red alert. I'm going I'm going with 1:30:24.120 --> 1:30:27.679 because because I should be the analogy as well. I'm 1:30:27.680 --> 1:30:30.400 going to red alert because I got into hip hop 1:30:30.960 --> 1:30:34.479 like eighty five, eight, six, eighty seven, and around the 1:30:34.560 --> 1:30:36.640 time when I got into hip hop, I wasn't in 1:30:36.720 --> 1:30:39.719 the streets as a little kid. My hip hop experience 1:30:39.760 --> 1:30:42.360 came from listening to the Red Alert, Kissing Fami and 1:30:42.479 --> 1:30:44.639 Jeff Fox, the Rocks Box and all that type of ship. 1:30:44.960 --> 1:30:48.120 Taking your shot, taking your shot, Dimond just from the 1:30:48.200 --> 1:30:55.880 last job. But I got my answer is rather alert 1:30:55.920 --> 1:30:58.800 because Lert influence kick agree. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 1:30:58.840 --> 1:31:01.280 That's the Godfather thing. And I'm to tell y'all my 1:31:01.400 --> 1:31:06.599 answers should be ready alert too. I had so much 1:31:06.640 --> 1:31:09.879 more experience, like it was me going to Kick Apris 1:31:09.960 --> 1:31:12.759 parties that made me say, this might be the baddest 1:31:12.840 --> 1:31:17.160 DJ to be. His name is Not to be Slandered, 1:31:17.640 --> 1:31:20.040 and Kick Capri and his production on the Big Ail 1:31:20.080 --> 1:31:24.200 Ship and Certain Ship He's done for the Culture Joint 1:31:24.280 --> 1:31:27.479 produced from Death Comedy Jam and just like Kick Capri 1:31:28.200 --> 1:31:30.600 and and even just now I posted, I reposted some 1:31:30.640 --> 1:31:35.960 ship Kicker PrePost on Instagram about about work, making sure 1:31:35.960 --> 1:31:38.360 you working people really appreciate you, and I was like, yo, 1:31:38.520 --> 1:31:42.040 just just so everybody knows, I need to work with Kickapri, 1:31:42.479 --> 1:31:45.320 I said. Kick Capri is an absolute legend. He's one 1:31:45.320 --> 1:31:51.200 of my favorite human beings. He'd probably he's one of 1:31:51.240 --> 1:31:54.400 my favorite human beings. Yeah, I just see, I see. 1:31:54.439 --> 1:31:57.200 I was like I was in a I think I 1:31:57.280 --> 1:31:59.160 was in DC one day with him, the next day 1:31:59.160 --> 1:32:01.920 in North Line, the next day someone else, and he 1:32:01.920 --> 1:32:04.800 would equally walk the party with different sets, like he 1:32:04.840 --> 1:32:07.280 wouldn't repeat his sets. And that was the first time 1:32:07.360 --> 1:32:13.800 I had organic. He was playing alert. Can't do what 1:32:13.920 --> 1:32:17.120 Kicker pre do right? The Kick Apre It's not read 1:32:17.120 --> 1:32:20.240 alert right, Okay, this is the last one. It's pretty 1:32:20.320 --> 1:32:28.160 much eighties or the nineties. That's a fucking good question. 1:32:29.120 --> 1:32:35.200 I think it is in terms of what error ten 1:32:35.280 --> 1:32:40.080 years that ten years again, but ten years it up 1:32:40.160 --> 1:32:45.040 the ten because if you shift the ten between eighty 1:32:45.120 --> 1:32:48.840 five and ninety five, I'm going with the eighties going empty, 1:32:48.840 --> 1:32:52.040 hammer and nigger. That's the one I know, EMC hammer 1:32:52.160 --> 1:33:00.120 just not define it? Are you nothing looking back? When 1:33:00.160 --> 1:33:02.280 I say, in terms of what are we talking about 1:33:02.640 --> 1:33:05.439 specifically hip hop? Would you like the error are you 1:33:05.479 --> 1:33:10.880 talking about? Because they might have a change to the nineties. Okay, yeah, okay, 1:33:10.920 --> 1:33:15.880 why because the eighties we said eighties versus nineties in 1:33:15.960 --> 1:33:19.759 terms of error. In terms of error, the eighties is superior, 1:33:20.040 --> 1:33:22.519 but the eighties end of eighties hip hop set up 1:33:22.560 --> 1:33:27.559 the nineties hip hop. Nineties hip hop is. It's great, 1:33:27.640 --> 1:33:32.000 but up, but it terms of hip hop nineties hip hop. 1:33:32.080 --> 1:33:34.320 If you go to any party on the planet, on 1:33:34.520 --> 1:33:39.040 any or any party on the planet right now, righting, 1:33:39.800 --> 1:33:42.679 and you play any type of music, if the DJ 1:33:42.840 --> 1:33:45.120 decide that he want to do fifty and twenty minutes 1:33:45.120 --> 1:33:47.160 of just nineties hip hops, right that's going to be 1:33:47.240 --> 1:33:49.439 the best part of the party. I don't think about 1:33:49.640 --> 1:33:52.840 like that. If he played nothing the DJ doing nothing 1:33:53.320 --> 1:33:59.320 nothing in two thousand? What what? What? What if you 1:33:59.439 --> 1:34:03.240 go on you doing a scenario, If you're doing a scenario, 1:34:03.800 --> 1:34:06.800 do a house of pain drip around? You don't have 1:34:06.960 --> 1:34:10.360 some page up around in a scenario and any and 1:34:10.439 --> 1:34:14.240 then biggy no money, more money, more problems and how 1:34:14.360 --> 1:34:16.519 could just kill a man? And if if you're going 1:34:16.560 --> 1:34:19.000 to a public enemy set, if you do fight to power, 1:34:19.800 --> 1:34:23.720 what the what do we powers? Eighties? Eighties? That's all 1:34:23.720 --> 1:34:30.760 I'm trying to tell you. It's as a producer, I 1:34:30.800 --> 1:34:33.560 would say nineties because the late eighties and when the 1:34:33.640 --> 1:34:37.040 sample of becomes in effect and hip hop got away 1:34:37.080 --> 1:34:41.120 from the live instrumentation of the early to mid ager 1:34:41.320 --> 1:34:43.920 without saying it was more of getting back to the essence, 1:34:44.720 --> 1:34:48.040 you know what I mean. So that would be my answer. 1:34:49.479 --> 1:34:54.599 Nine eight What is the best year of hip hop 1:34:54.640 --> 1:34:59.840 of all time? What Google told you that I don't 1:35:00.000 --> 1:35:03.960 no no no no no no no no no no 1:35:05.360 --> 1:35:08.719 is the best year is when everything changed? And I Google. 1:35:08.840 --> 1:35:11.680 I did Google Google because I wanted to see a 1:35:11.840 --> 1:35:16.839 public takes the nation of millions holders back. Great adventures 1:35:16.920 --> 1:35:21.840 like Rick absolutely trade out of Compton, strictly business E. P. M. D. 1:35:22.640 --> 1:35:29.040 Long lived to Kynes, following the leader by Enemies necessary 1:35:30.080 --> 1:35:33.479 straight out to jungle. He's a DJ on the rapper 1:35:34.680 --> 1:35:41.880 critical beat down, tougher than leather Light is a rock easy, 1:35:42.000 --> 1:35:48.200 doesn't going off. He's Marquis. The best is going off 1:35:52.720 --> 1:35:57.160 in full gear stet to Sonica talking all that jazz 1:35:57.720 --> 1:36:02.760 in control Volume one, Symphony for Molly Maul act the 1:36:02.840 --> 1:36:09.479 fool King Tea, But listen tower iced tea, a salt 1:36:09.560 --> 1:36:14.000 with a deadly pepper. Alright, so that's night it takes 1:36:14.040 --> 1:36:16.680 to rob Base one of the best records of all More, 1:36:16.800 --> 1:36:22.400 can I say audio to the world's greatest entertainer, Doggy Fresh, 1:36:23.560 --> 1:36:25.719 all that in one year, I need you to google 1:36:25.800 --> 1:36:28.960 night to night. I'm gonna tell you the next year 1:36:29.000 --> 1:36:31.720 to come after that. I've done my resent next year, 1:36:34.240 --> 1:36:38.559 your next next year that got as many dope albums 1:36:38.560 --> 1:36:43.640 as that. It's ninety six six, all right, who's in 1:36:43.720 --> 1:36:48.640 ninety six? And I feel like I didn't come out 1:36:48.680 --> 1:36:51.320 to ninety eight. I was told that was my persont year. 1:36:51.360 --> 1:36:53.519 I told you to google next because that's a year 1:36:56.320 --> 1:37:00.360 my year. Really quick, before you say those everything mentioned 1:37:00.400 --> 1:37:03.680 in eight eight set up the nineties. A lot of 1:37:03.800 --> 1:37:07.960 all that music influenced everything that happened in the early nineties. Yeah, 1:37:08.040 --> 1:37:12.960 what you read this is what you use, Okay, okay, 1:37:13.080 --> 1:37:18.880 ninety six is I might be wrong? Yeah alright, let 1:37:18.920 --> 1:37:22.800 me start tupac all eyes on me. The Foojis to 1:37:22.840 --> 1:37:28.400 score fire That right, Maskills from Where wasn't the commercial 1:37:28.720 --> 1:37:31.519 wasn't commercial. That's a that's that's a classic album. That's 1:37:31.520 --> 1:37:37.000 a class out. We have Maskills, Conscious Daughters, Gamers, Hammad Collage, 1:37:37.080 --> 1:37:42.759 Classic Smooth, The Hustler, Once Uplaic, Okay, Classics, Buster Robs, 1:37:42.800 --> 1:37:48.320 the Coming Classics, that's right, BC Boys to End Sound 1:37:48.360 --> 1:37:53.680 from Way Out, Ghetto Boys, The Resurrection, Massive, p ice 1:37:53.720 --> 1:38:02.400 Cream Man. Uh, I might be wrong about ninety six. Yeah, 1:38:02.479 --> 1:38:08.280 nine six they're also six is high Classic NASA was 1:38:08.320 --> 1:38:13.960 written X Wild Cowboys, Problems in Life, Trick Requests Classic 1:38:17.240 --> 1:38:23.080 eight Aliens Classic Ah No, it's not the say Rose 1:38:23.960 --> 1:38:29.960 the same. Taking a break without taking a break. I'm 1:38:30.000 --> 1:38:32.880 gonna take a p p at bringing away. We don't 1:38:32.920 --> 1:38:35.760 take a break. We didn't bring I don't want to 1:38:36.040 --> 1:38:38.280 take a break down. You don't use the bathroom if 1:38:38.280 --> 1:38:40.200 you want. I'm good, okay, yeah, I'm cool right now? 1:38:40.400 --> 1:38:43.760 So what okay? So ninety eight. It's a year the 1:38:43.800 --> 1:38:47.320 Black Star came out. Okay, September. In September ninety eight, 1:38:48.479 --> 1:38:53.200 five hip Hop Classics dropped it September, the same day 1:38:53.240 --> 1:38:55.840 that the Black Star album dropped? Is that is that not? 1:38:56.080 --> 1:38:59.920 Nine eleven? No? Okay, the same day to the Blacks, 1:39:00.000 --> 1:39:04.320 the album dropped, well, read the whole year. But I'm 1:39:04.320 --> 1:39:09.800 a Black Star dropped ninety eight Okay, September Septem a 1:39:09.920 --> 1:39:20.800 quemini four hundred degrees, juvenile capital, punishment, big pun the 1:39:20.920 --> 1:39:28.240 Miseducation of Lauren Hill Foundation by brand Newbian Beach, Romes 1:39:28.280 --> 1:39:32.040 in Life by Tryck requests, moment of Truth again started 1:39:32.160 --> 1:39:37.760 ninety eight might be the year not beat, Ribs of Life, 1:39:37.880 --> 1:39:42.840 the love movement, which I don't know why I keep 1:39:42.880 --> 1:39:46.600 calling it. Okay, okay, this is this one's about to 1:39:46.840 --> 1:39:50.479 seal the deal, about the seal the deal, money power, respect, 1:39:50.520 --> 1:39:54.680 by the locks. We could go, we could go a 1:39:54.680 --> 1:39:56.880 head of what I'm about to see it. I'm about 1:39:56.880 --> 1:40:03.040 to see e l E By bust the ROMs can 1:40:03.120 --> 1:40:09.320 I bus by Cannabis. Wow, Okay, still standing by the 1:40:09.360 --> 1:40:13.360 good emm ah. This is a slept on the album 1:40:14.160 --> 1:40:20.639 Soul Survivor by p Rock. Okay, I already mentioned member Survivor. 1:40:20.720 --> 1:40:23.680 Do ye remember I said brand new Rear Foundation that 1:40:23.800 --> 1:40:31.280 came out that Hello Nasty by the Beastie Boys. That's 1:40:31.320 --> 1:40:36.880 a fucking good album. Year, Hello Nasty. You know what? 1:40:37.360 --> 1:40:41.519 Nori Than is my new ninety six. Yeah, was a 1:40:41.520 --> 1:40:44.760 good year. That's my favorite year. Flesh Blood of My 1:40:44.840 --> 1:40:49.040 Blood by DMX, Yeah, yeah, that's my year, my best year. 1:40:54.960 --> 1:41:00.400 This this is an incredible album. Hel Ni Yo by 1:41:00.479 --> 1:41:06.559 the Death Squad. That Joe Don Carters on the album too, 1:41:07.120 --> 1:41:23.639 all right, and o R popped up r Bynory. Okay, 1:41:23.720 --> 1:41:26.240 but here's the album that I'm on that niggers don't 1:41:26.280 --> 1:41:28.120 even know. I'm not. I'm not on this, Okay, I'm not. 1:41:28.160 --> 1:41:31.759 I'm not on this album. I'm on a remix Sons 1:41:31.800 --> 1:41:34.880 of Men. The last should be first and the first 1:41:34.880 --> 1:41:39.120 should be last. Shout to Heaven Raised. I'm on a remix. 1:41:40.320 --> 1:41:43.479 I thought I was on album Sons of Man's Killer 1:41:43.520 --> 1:41:49.080 priest Um sixty Second Assassin. DMX is darker to tell 1:41:49.160 --> 1:41:54.439 us he was the first artist in history to have 1:41:54.680 --> 1:42:00.360 platinum twice in one year. I was there, I was there, 1:42:01.600 --> 1:42:06.600 I was there, I was right right. This is the 1:42:06.680 --> 1:42:10.960 year I was doing Bobby Digital and Bobby did you 1:42:11.040 --> 1:42:12.800 I want to let you keep going. I'm gonna tell 1:42:12.800 --> 1:42:16.080 you how to examined. Forty days, forty nights. That's what 1:42:16.200 --> 1:42:20.559 you see is what you get? YEA classic video First 1:42:20.600 --> 1:42:25.880 Family for Life, the Cool Steal, this album classic rest 1:42:25.920 --> 1:42:28.840 in Peace, the DJ right she passed away, I War 1:42:28.920 --> 1:42:31.040 in Peace Fine one and two? I want that too? 1:42:31.479 --> 1:42:33.800 You want that? That's what I was this East Coast 1:42:33.880 --> 1:42:42.519 Niggas which one? What was that was? Fine? Oh? Yeah, yeah, 1:42:42.560 --> 1:42:51.080 I was question connection ice Cube. I think we'll be remix, right, 1:42:51.280 --> 1:42:55.000 we'll be corrupt. But on the remix, me and Most 1:42:55.040 --> 1:42:56.880 Deaf used to do Black Star shows in the error, 1:42:57.200 --> 1:42:58.840 and we used to perform a version of that song, 1:42:59.320 --> 1:43:02.360 and we used to be we'll be clubbing Little Baby Seals, 1:43:02.439 --> 1:43:07.920 so we can make coach. We'll be clubbing. Push it 1:43:08.000 --> 1:43:10.960 Wait push. I was like, wait, oh, puh, yeah, that's it. 1:43:11.400 --> 1:43:15.400 It was that I'm still here. That's a great joint. 1:43:15.920 --> 1:43:20.040 Spike Lee. He got Game ninety one, ice Cube, Record 1:43:20.040 --> 1:43:25.680 of nine Generation Effects, a c alone, A book of 1:43:25.800 --> 1:43:28.840 Human Language. This is actually a very good album, very 1:43:28.880 --> 1:43:32.000 good album. Black Eyed Peas Behind the front. What that 1:43:32.160 --> 1:43:35.680 was before Fergie when Yeah, that was the underground black 1:43:36.120 --> 1:43:37.680 Look at Tyler Live and getting his hip hop on 1:43:38.080 --> 1:43:48.720 you hip hop, Let's do it look as seen the 1:43:48.800 --> 1:43:54.280 shadiest buster here you Dad's dealing your revenge retaliation Lyricist 1:43:54.360 --> 1:43:57.439 Lounge bust albums that year the Lyricist Lounge did you 1:43:57.720 --> 1:44:03.160 buster twice? Okay? It was just okay, goddamn it. Anybody 1:44:03.200 --> 1:44:06.200 want to move? I know that's a camera and Confessions 1:44:06.240 --> 1:44:09.320 of Fire. That's what the nig I'm on that too, right, 1:44:09.360 --> 1:44:20.280 that's what you listen David, You year period like of 1:44:20.400 --> 1:44:22.439 my life. The only thing is better about it my 1:44:22.560 --> 1:44:25.280 father died in the middle of my hype. I don't 1:44:25.280 --> 1:44:29.080 even talk about. Okay, let's Big Duty, Kane drop Veteran's Day, 1:44:29.080 --> 1:44:33.960 which is an underrated album. Veterans Day styles are beyond 1:44:34.000 --> 1:44:46.599 two thousand fold method man to couch, jous ships, ship, corruption, corrupt, Classic, 1:44:47.360 --> 1:44:52.240 Shut Them Down, Classic, um Snoop Dogg. The game is 1:44:52.320 --> 1:44:54.519 to be sold, not to be told. With no limit. 1:44:54.600 --> 1:44:56.880 That's the no limit. That's a classic, too easy. Pieces 1:44:56.920 --> 1:45:01.880 of a Man. That's the best I learned on Tree 1:45:01.960 --> 1:45:08.040 Champs today. Can mess with it depends it's great. You 1:45:08.160 --> 1:45:12.160 know who we should you know what? You know, it's 1:45:12.200 --> 1:45:16.040 actually an ill versus Listen, listen, listen, because I was 1:45:16.360 --> 1:45:18.760 only I love Versus and I'm actually a little bit 1:45:18.800 --> 1:45:20.400 a part of it. But the only thing that I 1:45:20.560 --> 1:45:22.479 didn't like a little bit part of it, you know what. 1:45:23.240 --> 1:45:29.000 But like I didn't like the D'Angelo bringing up people 1:45:29.240 --> 1:45:34.960 was D'Angelo versus himself. If we're gonna go there, why 1:45:35.000 --> 1:45:40.200 don't we do something like that with eight versus nine 1:45:41.640 --> 1:45:50.320 and have some of them lostical it just by the way, 1:45:50.560 --> 1:45:55.560 who's killing Harold on there? And I was done, It 1:45:55.680 --> 1:45:57.160 was done, but it was just weird because it was 1:45:58.640 --> 1:46:03.640 from versus. Yeah, magic, you do verse and you have 1:46:03.800 --> 1:46:06.719 these artists, you get as much artists from both eras 1:46:06.760 --> 1:46:09.040 that's still alive, that's still That's the beautiful list thing 1:46:09.080 --> 1:46:11.960 about coming to America They got all the same actors 1:46:12.200 --> 1:46:14.840 and you get the people perform their records. I think 1:46:14.840 --> 1:46:16.400 that would be so wait wait, wait, are you saying 1:46:16.439 --> 1:46:18.519 that you're a fan of coming to America? Coming to 1:46:18.600 --> 1:46:23.880 America too? You go and grab this conversation. I'm gonna 1:46:23.880 --> 1:46:25.800 get into it. I think it was a well made movie. 1:46:27.040 --> 1:46:29.120 Fan I don't understand? What what? What? What's that not 1:46:29.200 --> 1:46:32.160 to like about it? Word? You know what? I'm about 1:46:32.160 --> 1:46:35.120 to blow your minds. You hated it? I enjoyed it. 1:46:36.120 --> 1:46:39.479 It's not better because I was a good movie. Listen, 1:46:39.520 --> 1:46:41.960 I'm a fan of movies. I know that people had 1:46:42.000 --> 1:46:46.800 a lot to say about it, but it's very hard 1:46:46.840 --> 1:46:50.280 to make a sequel and the classic. The running theme 1:46:50.360 --> 1:46:53.519 of tonight is Godfather versus Godfather too. I brought this 1:46:53.640 --> 1:46:57.000 up several times. We'll call it, we'll title the episode 1:46:58.920 --> 1:47:02.320 times right. I enjoyed it because it was good to 1:47:02.400 --> 1:47:05.479 see my O g s and my heroes having fun. 1:47:06.920 --> 1:47:09.360 Was it as good as Coming to America? Absolutely not? 1:47:10.240 --> 1:47:16.720 But did I expect it to do it? In his 1:47:16.840 --> 1:47:19.320 own understand it was? It was? It was good. We 1:47:19.439 --> 1:47:21.760 gotta support. I didn't like the Fashion Nova part and 1:47:21.800 --> 1:47:25.439 I didn't like the part with Homeboys start Fashion was like, 1:47:25.520 --> 1:47:28.280 come on, it turned into Hamilton and look at it. 1:47:33.960 --> 1:47:36.920 That's the best part. But the reason why they had 1:47:36.960 --> 1:47:42.400 Fashion Nova and Pepsi and Puma and all the other 1:47:42.479 --> 1:47:44.719 brands because when you make a movie, you get paid 1:47:44.800 --> 1:47:46.960 for the movie. Do you get paid for you know? 1:47:47.240 --> 1:47:50.760 But here's the thing they should have the only thing 1:47:50.800 --> 1:47:53.240 I would say creatively. The reason why I coming to 1:47:53.280 --> 1:47:54.920 America the first one was dope is because it's a 1:47:54.960 --> 1:47:58.479 fish out of water story. It's a fictional African character 1:47:58.520 --> 1:48:01.720 coming to New York City, queens and living. This new 1:48:01.760 --> 1:48:05.760 movie took place into Munda, right if they take place 1:48:05.800 --> 1:48:07.519 in the bud Fay Queens too, that was fake me. 1:48:07.600 --> 1:48:10.640 I was offended, but they said it was Hurst, that 1:48:10.680 --> 1:48:12.280 a new way that else in the in the world. 1:48:12.680 --> 1:48:14.880 Hurst is the kid in places from Listen Man. When 1:48:14.920 --> 1:48:17.639 that when they put the you know, you know I'm rewinding, 1:48:17.720 --> 1:48:20.840 I'm looking, I'm going to see they said, I'm Hurst, 1:48:20.880 --> 1:48:25.200 New York. I was like, sut um, they're getting married. 1:48:25.520 --> 1:48:27.040 You know, if you look at this, it real good. 1:48:27.080 --> 1:48:29.240 It says Elmer's And I'm just so because I'm ten 1:48:29.360 --> 1:48:32.040 minutes away from Elmhurst, so I know everything to that. 1:48:32.560 --> 1:48:36.040 But that's me personally. That's me personally. The fact that 1:48:37.120 --> 1:48:40.719 and they put out Girl Queen's is very much mentioned. 1:48:47.120 --> 1:48:49.840 I'm not I'm not, I'm not charge. Can we get 1:48:49.880 --> 1:48:57.920 a drink? Champs clap for what's his name? Yeah? Yo um, 1:48:58.960 --> 1:49:01.840 And I got to give it up one million percent. 1:49:01.920 --> 1:49:05.360 I've ever met her. I actually just see her comedies 1:49:05.360 --> 1:49:07.240 before and I see her stand up prior to me 1:49:07.360 --> 1:49:12.040 watching it. But Leslie listened to me as a person 1:49:12.640 --> 1:49:16.600 who my whole life, I dedicate ghetto queens woman. She 1:49:16.720 --> 1:49:20.120 hit it on the news. She hit it on the news. 1:49:20.240 --> 1:49:26.120 I'm telling you queens queens, and she hit it on 1:49:26.280 --> 1:49:30.080 the she said, I hate queen. I'm sorry. I slap 1:49:30.200 --> 1:49:34.400 at your man. That's exactly one day. One day when 1:49:34.400 --> 1:49:36.920 I'm an old man. One day, when I'm an old man, 1:49:37.280 --> 1:49:42.200 I'm gonna tell the world about my DM conversations with Leslie. Leslie, 1:49:42.400 --> 1:49:46.240 let your damn she she I slid in hers. Oh 1:49:48.400 --> 1:49:57.920 some comedy ship. I'm like everybody, everybody's why you want 1:49:57.960 --> 1:50:08.000 to wait two years? What we just say? Who the private? 1:50:08.040 --> 1:50:15.320 Dont toromy know me? For real? Everybody? Everybody? Single man? Yeah, 1:50:16.040 --> 1:50:18.400 not you, and I know that you're sing single man 1:50:18.520 --> 1:50:23.519 talking as far when is this coming out? You never 1:50:24.240 --> 1:50:29.400 I've never my life, he said, to be at home 1:50:29.880 --> 1:50:34.559 coming out? What I never heard of? You're sucking me up. 1:50:34.600 --> 1:50:37.760 I always got something to say. If I don't even 1:50:37.760 --> 1:50:39.600 know what to say, don't word. I don't know what 1:50:40.120 --> 1:50:42.360 what the kind of ship was that that was the 1:50:42.400 --> 1:50:45.320 fifth sha. I know, pimp. When I see it's like, 1:50:45.640 --> 1:50:52.479 what was this coming out? I holy sh it, I 1:50:52.520 --> 1:50:56.680 don't even know what a bottle that I don't know. Uh, 1:50:57.320 --> 1:51:05.120 you diamonded, you don't have pimple with you're married? Up, 1:51:05.360 --> 1:51:08.360 I'm not married. You're not married. Let's make your noise 1:51:08.400 --> 1:51:16.720 when you're trying to be loyal. This is the last question. Um, 1:51:17.960 --> 1:51:21.400 like that, Like Biggie's words, I never thought that hip 1:51:21.439 --> 1:51:26.920 hop would take it this far. The level of the 1:51:27.040 --> 1:51:31.759 hip hop is now, Um, although we compromise with the music. 1:51:33.000 --> 1:51:35.000 Sometimes the music is not up to Paul. But the 1:51:35.240 --> 1:51:38.680 level of business that I'm seeing being done, that I'm 1:51:38.720 --> 1:51:45.320 seeing being presented is on another level at this point, 1:51:45.640 --> 1:51:48.639 like everybody is being able to eat, these people being 1:51:48.680 --> 1:51:50.800 able to reach their family with switching them there with 1:51:51.000 --> 1:51:55.800 versus very very very when they gave people equity for 1:51:56.000 --> 1:51:59.000 you know, putting their their likeness and their image on 1:51:59.120 --> 1:52:01.400 the thing, because most of these guys don't even own 1:52:02.040 --> 1:52:05.559 the actual records that they're playing, so they really wasn't 1:52:05.640 --> 1:52:08.560 benefiting you. Was doing versus just to do versus And 1:52:08.640 --> 1:52:11.040 for Swiss and Timberling to say, you know what I 1:52:11.120 --> 1:52:12.960 know some of y'all don't own your masses. So what 1:52:13.040 --> 1:52:14.680 we're gonna do is we donna give your stake in 1:52:14.720 --> 1:52:18.640 the actual company where hip hop is. I want to 1:52:18.760 --> 1:52:21.840 just um, you know, we are the big words. I 1:52:21.920 --> 1:52:23.800 want to start with you because you came at the end. 1:52:24.160 --> 1:52:26.040 Did you ever think that hip hop would take it 1:52:26.160 --> 1:52:31.240 this far? Not at all? M In fact, that's one 1:52:31.240 --> 1:52:34.920 of the reasons why I um, I started taking color 1:52:34.960 --> 1:52:36.599 the arts. You know what I'm saying, That's right, that's why. 1:52:36.640 --> 1:52:39.280 That's one of the reasons. That's right. But it's cool 1:52:39.400 --> 1:52:41.880 to see it now because we're treated as it is, 1:52:42.120 --> 1:52:44.800 like we're a culture, you know what I'm saying. Now, 1:52:44.840 --> 1:52:48.560 it's being treated as a culture now there's companies targeting 1:52:48.600 --> 1:52:51.000 our culture like they target whites and blacks, and you 1:52:51.040 --> 1:52:52.519 know what I'm saying, And that's a cool thing to 1:52:52.600 --> 1:52:55.000 see because they thought we were just some some kids 1:52:55.080 --> 1:52:59.280 making noise. Yeah, fact, they didn't understand the network and 1:52:59.320 --> 1:53:02.000 the grammar group in the community we were building, you 1:53:02.040 --> 1:53:03.680 know what I mean. So that's that's really dope to 1:53:03.720 --> 1:53:06.200 see that part of it. Right, So so utah, I lived. 1:53:06.240 --> 1:53:08.880 Did you ever think hip hop? Do you see you 1:53:08.960 --> 1:53:12.880 see Jay Z just sold his company this to Moat. 1:53:13.520 --> 1:53:17.120 Now me growing up was the richest ship you can drink. 1:53:17.560 --> 1:53:20.400 For it to be for them to recognize this company 1:53:20.560 --> 1:53:23.479 as a five million dollars person and then to buy 1:53:23.640 --> 1:53:26.639 in but I think at forty nine percent, which which 1:53:26.720 --> 1:53:30.160 means that he's still is the majority owner. Like that's 1:53:30.200 --> 1:53:32.920 just the amazing thing to this. This is we all 1:53:33.240 --> 1:53:36.800 grew up drinking mo and for us for them to 1:53:36.880 --> 1:53:38.640 be a part of this company that he did on 1:53:38.720 --> 1:53:40.439 his own, this is big. Like you ever thought the 1:53:40.479 --> 1:53:45.160 hip hop god this farm? No, I didn't, um, but 1:53:45.320 --> 1:53:49.880 I attribute that to how we grew up. We had limitations. 1:53:50.000 --> 1:53:52.280 We had like Blonde just put on it as far 1:53:52.360 --> 1:53:54.880 as what we could imagine, Like we all just got 1:53:54.960 --> 1:53:57.679 Everybody in this room got into it because you want 1:53:57.720 --> 1:53:59.800 somebody and me me personally, it was like you want 1:53:59.840 --> 1:54:01.760 some I just think he was nice. And if you 1:54:01.840 --> 1:54:04.280 read jay z book he talked about that, he talked 1:54:04.280 --> 1:54:06.519 about he said, it's all comes down to the rhom. 1:54:06.680 --> 1:54:10.479 Like everything I gain attributed to like I just want 1:54:10.520 --> 1:54:12.360 to write the best raps and everything and if like, 1:54:12.840 --> 1:54:16.479 if you appreciate this culture, you put your all into it, 1:54:17.760 --> 1:54:21.520 things like this will happen. We we come from situations 1:54:21.560 --> 1:54:27.439 where we made to feel like something's wrong with us 1:54:28.479 --> 1:54:33.000 if we aspire outside of what the hood supposedly represent. 1:54:34.720 --> 1:54:37.400 And this is why jay Z is such an important 1:54:37.480 --> 1:54:42.240 artist and human being. It's because he break the barriers constantly, 1:54:43.000 --> 1:54:48.560 and he involved all of us in it. He makes 1:54:48.560 --> 1:54:51.040 sure that all of us, at least two people where 1:54:51.080 --> 1:54:53.360 he comes from. He makes sure all of us, uh 1:54:53.480 --> 1:54:54.840 see a part of it, in a piece of it, 1:54:55.200 --> 1:54:57.320 even whether whether or not you're in business with him, 1:54:57.920 --> 1:55:00.160 through the way he's making his moves. You know what 1:55:00.160 --> 1:55:02.800 I'm saying and what I was saying earlier about conscious artists. 1:55:03.280 --> 1:55:05.520 I can't grow no hair now. Back when I was 1:55:05.560 --> 1:55:08.760 a teenager. When I was a teenager, I had dreads. 1:55:09.360 --> 1:55:14.840 My dreads looked like John uh Michelle Bascott's hope looking 1:55:14.880 --> 1:55:18.240 like I've seen Kodak Black and shout out to Kodak 1:55:18.280 --> 1:55:21.320 Black because he's a Florida artist. I've seen him saying 1:55:21.320 --> 1:55:24.480 that jay Z was copying his hairstyle. That's that's some 1:55:24.560 --> 1:55:28.080 young boys ship. He just never seen that. Scott. Yeah, 1:55:28.240 --> 1:55:31.600 because jay Z is copying Baskett. I love I love 1:55:31.680 --> 1:55:38.600 how you pronouncing it right. Because I can't. I got 1:55:38.680 --> 1:55:48.040 Fred for real, I'm sure beyond you know. But even 1:55:48.040 --> 1:55:49.800 though all the time, even if Kodak Black is a 1:55:49.840 --> 1:55:52.960 little misguided with his with his historical references as far 1:55:53.000 --> 1:55:54.960 as coming here, the fact that he grew his hair 1:55:55.040 --> 1:55:58.160 out like that is revolutionary. The fact that Scott did 1:55:58.240 --> 1:56:00.720 that is revolutionary. The fact that Jay's when I see 1:56:00.800 --> 1:56:02.320 j Z, I'm like, That's how my hair looked when 1:56:02.320 --> 1:56:04.480 I was in high school, know what I'm saying. And 1:56:04.560 --> 1:56:07.240 it's like it all comes from circles. Like I'm like, yo, 1:56:07.320 --> 1:56:09.280 that's what we're supposed to be. So we're supposed to 1:56:09.320 --> 1:56:12.680 be free. We're supposed to be embracing our our our 1:56:12.760 --> 1:56:15.520 blackness or whatever you are. And it was like, we're 1:56:15.520 --> 1:56:18.760 supposed to embrace it and be free. And um, I 1:56:18.880 --> 1:56:20.800 just love the freedom and the fact that his freedom 1:56:21.160 --> 1:56:25.560 has led to him being and a Stuti businessman. We 1:56:25.640 --> 1:56:28.320 can now we could do this business, he could do 1:56:28.440 --> 1:56:31.000 this type of business, and him and his wife and 1:56:31.120 --> 1:56:34.920 his family could do conscious art and still contribute to 1:56:34.960 --> 1:56:37.960 conscious causes and still win awards and all that. Beyonce 1:56:38.080 --> 1:56:40.400 the most winning this artists of all time and the 1:56:40.440 --> 1:56:54.800 Grammys or whatever. Um, how about you Diamond Nah to 1:56:54.880 --> 1:56:58.920 see the culture come from black and brown people having 1:56:58.960 --> 1:57:02.320 block parties, plugging the equipment up to the lamp post 1:57:04.320 --> 1:57:07.880 to something that jay Z just did d J D 1:57:08.080 --> 1:57:17.040 Nice in a Ford truck commercial. Not no way, sneakers, 1:57:18.840 --> 1:57:22.760 no way to test them out though, you know, to 1:57:22.880 --> 1:57:28.080 to the culture that we started. So yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, man, 1:57:28.560 --> 1:57:30.840 you know what on that note list in this and say, 1:57:30.920 --> 1:57:34.080 you know what, God blessed hip hop. It's blessed everyone 1:57:34.240 --> 1:57:38.680 in this room to a certain extent. Um. Like I said, man, 1:57:38.800 --> 1:57:43.040 one of the keep watching this documentaries and I think 1:57:43.080 --> 1:57:46.480 that that's one of the most um slept on hip 1:57:46.520 --> 1:57:49.160 hop tool is the hip hop documentaries. Like we all. 1:57:49.440 --> 1:57:52.320 You know what I love about documentaries is it's like 1:57:52.400 --> 1:57:54.720 you know, you ever watched the HBO fights. You know, 1:57:54.800 --> 1:57:58.120 they make sure everybody has a story. You understand. I'm saying, like, 1:57:58.800 --> 1:58:01.360 and that's what the documentaries is. And I'm excited to 1:58:01.520 --> 1:58:03.840 hear about this Black Star documentary. I'm excited to hear 1:58:03.880 --> 1:58:06.280 about you guys when when it's got them out one 1:58:06.960 --> 1:58:13.120 April's I'll try to put this out that we could 1:58:14.040 --> 1:58:16.680 which so we can help with the promotion. But overall man, 1:58:16.760 --> 1:58:18.440 thank you brothers for taking your time. I have to 1:58:18.480 --> 1:58:20.320 come with us and get drunk and have some drinks. 1:58:20.480 --> 1:58:22.840 We're gonna do some drops and some all pictures and 1:58:23.000 --> 1:58:33.920 we got this. Thanks for joining us for another episode 1:58:33.960 --> 1:58:36.360 of Drink Champs hosted by yours truly, d J e 1:58:36.520 --> 1:58:38.880 F and n O r E. Please make sure to 1:58:38.920 --> 1:58:41.440 follow us on all our socials. 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