Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of the Black Effect
Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio and it's Drink Chess, motherfucking podcast. Mason,
Speaker 1: he's a legendary Queen's rapper. He's like it is your
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Speaker 1: up the mother. Would it could be Hopeully what it
Speaker 1: should be? It's your boy and what up is d
Speaker 1: J e f N? And this drink chats motherfucker? Yea,
Speaker 1: y'all would makes up load? Now right now, I guess
Speaker 1: we got one of the most legendary producers of all times,
Speaker 1: part of one of the alliest groups ever to come
Speaker 1: out of the Bronx, come out of New York City,
Speaker 1: to come out of the world. D I motherfucking TC.
Speaker 1: The man is a legend upon legends, and he's keeping
Speaker 1: then coming out here to promoter album. That's one of them.
Speaker 1: The other one is one of my favorite raptivists, activists, raptivists,
Speaker 1: whatever we call him. He's very positive. Brother. We got
Speaker 1: to talk about the time we had Russell Simmons on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we didn't release the episode, so we don't got you know,
Speaker 1: I can get these brothers solver long. But I want
Speaker 1: to get straight into the interview case people don't know
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. My motherfucking David d Now, first
Speaker 1: of all, let's let's address um uh you guys have
Speaker 1: album together. Let's rest the elephant in the room. Yes, yes, yes, okay, Um, Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, I love the intro that you gave
Speaker 1: the O G. Diamond. Obviously he's a legend in the game.
Speaker 1: Um Me and Diamond dmon working together on his last
Speaker 1: couple of albums to die Piece albums, and so we
Speaker 1: have a great working relationship. He's one of the first,
Speaker 1: uh known on you know, a famous artist to get
Speaker 1: to sort of take me under his wing. And so
Speaker 1: when he did my show, People's Party, he has sent
Speaker 1: me a bunch of tracks and to show him some
Speaker 1: love and respect, I just bust on all of them.
Speaker 1: I was like, we just wrap on every track and
Speaker 1: the next he flew in down the next day and
Speaker 1: I played it for him, But I didn't realize it
Speaker 1: was the making of an album until I've seen this
Speaker 1: response to wait making an album. Yeah, something like ten
Speaker 1: joints and no, we're not we're not, we're not. Watch
Speaker 1: So I was like, yo, you know, um, how many
Speaker 1: how many of you did you know? I think he
Speaker 1: did like one of two. He's like, nah, I did
Speaker 1: like like eight and nine of them, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? So that more or less just lay into
Speaker 1: the album, because that's how is that how you usually
Speaker 1: send beats? You sending beats and like boats like that,
Speaker 1: tens and pins because I get confused. I need like
Speaker 1: two beats at a time. If you send me to
Speaker 1: you sent me, I like down, So how did you
Speaker 1: able to prosper through that and get uh and we
Speaker 1: going like eight or nine? I mean it's different producers.
Speaker 1: That's just some producers who like, you need to come
Speaker 1: to my studio and work with me. That some producers
Speaker 1: that only send you the one they want you to
Speaker 1: wrap on. Some producers to send you a pack. You know,
Speaker 1: I work with mad Live a lot. You might get
Speaker 1: a pack from him for like two beats, like keep
Speaker 1: making like seven beats a minute, Like what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'll be confused, but I appreciate the love the Diamond
Speaker 1: showing me because I know for a fact the caliber
Speaker 1: of of how he produced it. I know for a
Speaker 1: fact he ain't sending everybody ten beats or twelve beats.
Speaker 1: I know that I have to reach a certain elite
Speaker 1: status for him to even trust me to even you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, to not take advantage of You know,
Speaker 1: sometimes you send people that that in my beats they
Speaker 1: make their own alum these days, and Nigga make down
Speaker 1: album and put it out right before you even knew
Speaker 1: he did it. I imagine it's weird to send beach
Speaker 1: from the era that that that you're coming from. To
Speaker 1: send beach to people must still be weird, I would imagine,
Speaker 1: I mean not at this point, definitely, definitely, because there's
Speaker 1: nothing like working with the artists in the course, you know,
Speaker 1: before the internet, you have to actually sit down with
Speaker 1: the artists, right, you know what I mean, or contact
Speaker 1: they managed me. I like that erraw better, like I
Speaker 1: always love the error when you know you couldn't send
Speaker 1: your rail, you have to go with record on the rail.
Speaker 1: Is that why people always credit like the nineties and
Speaker 1: the eighties. That for it being better music than it's
Speaker 1: happening right now is because we actually you couldn't get
Speaker 1: a Buster Rhymes verse sitting to you go in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the producer in the MC by the way right now
Speaker 1: as we speak, right now on Ebro showing Apple their
Speaker 1: debut in a single from Gotham album featuring Buster Rhymes.
Speaker 1: Why one, That's what I mean, y'all. Gotham the dedication
Speaker 1: with me or see now, now you've been out there
Speaker 1: with Dave Chappelle catching COVID and all that, I feel
Speaker 1: like I might be the cure. I'm the only one
Speaker 1: in the crew too. She was not. I think her
Speaker 1: people's got it. I was dead at night. They don't
Speaker 1: went to karaoke by the way. You see. I got
Speaker 1: my DJ collegue colda college colde off that I bought,
Speaker 1: by the way, that I bought from the store. But yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I had to say because when I'm on the way here,
Speaker 1: I told Fat Joe, I said, I'm interviewing uh diamond
Speaker 1: D and Tyler Quality, And he said, diamond D is
Speaker 1: literally the person who it's the nexest thing I ever
Speaker 1: heard of her Flat Joe, I ever said about anybody, anybody,
Speaker 1: he said, he said, you know, if it wasn't for you,
Speaker 1: he said, he literally came to you, literally came to
Speaker 1: him and said, you gotta rap, get the funk out
Speaker 1: of the streets. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sense What up? What up? Joe?
Speaker 1: What up? Joe crackty? What's up from? How are you feeling? Oh?
Speaker 1: That's beautiful? Bro? Birthday? Domond d saved my life and
Speaker 1: we knew each other since kids, and Dinmond told me
Speaker 1: one day, Joe, Joe, every time you're doing the streets,
Speaker 1: you gotta put it in the rats. I know you
Speaker 1: like the rat or you're gonna die out here, You're
Speaker 1: gonna go to jail. And if it wasn't for that
Speaker 1: speech he gave me, I never would have really took
Speaker 1: rap serious and never would have rat. That's real, Joe,
Speaker 1: that's really you know that? Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 1: I'll give you a cool a players you know. What's up? D.
Speaker 1: I love you to death, y'all feel like to beat
Speaker 1: from Bendy showing about to come on right now? All right,
Speaker 1: my brother, we love you so much, Thank you so much. Well, look, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm so so I would like to I would like
Speaker 1: because it literally was just like that. I literally jumped
Speaker 1: in the car. Um. He called me for one of
Speaker 1: his other friends, but I told about got him pistle,
Speaker 1: peep up the pistol pee, Oh, I got you bro
Speaker 1: u uh And I said, you know, it's funny because
Speaker 1: I know the relationship with the sounds like I'm going
Speaker 1: to And he literally said, y'all, that man literally was
Speaker 1: the reason why I started rhyming, like the reason why
Speaker 1: how did you do that? What was going on? He
Speaker 1: was already into hip hop. You know, this is like,
Speaker 1: you know, he was in the streets and his man
Speaker 1: tone arrest the arrest of peace tone, um, the whole
Speaker 1: terror Squad crew back then TS squad but um, like,
Speaker 1: you know, he was already like kind of in it.
Speaker 1: But he saw me doing it. You know, I was
Speaker 1: in a group called Ultimate for us. He saw the
Speaker 1: law for that's doing it. Lord fess, like right in
Speaker 1: the next building, we popped the save bottles over there. Whatever. Relaxed, man,
Speaker 1: It's not just like yeah, so basically just Joe seeing
Speaker 1: people he fuck with, tangible people doing shit, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? And you know, from the from then on,
Speaker 1: we never looked back. You know we went in there
Speaker 1: we may flow Joe Flow Joe started off as a
Speaker 1: promo for Red Alert and ready with doing the promos
Speaker 1: and it was a just a ready like a free
Speaker 1: stuff for the radio. Uh this hour the Italian real quick.
Speaker 1: Making a long story short. Right at this time Chris
Speaker 1: Litty was managing I was on Violater. No, it was
Speaker 1: a later um and that's and that was the connection
Speaker 1: between Red Alert, myself and Christy and Fat Joe. Ultimately
Speaker 1: Fat Joe wand up signing with Chris like relativity and
Speaker 1: off and running. Since then that makes a noise with
Speaker 1: right forget boy you Daves covid. So let's go, let's
Speaker 1: get back to that. So they are running a type
Speaker 1: ship over there. Then he came out to the tested before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then so so what so what what because people
Speaker 1: that didn't know because I just have Instagram, right, I
Speaker 1: didn't get invited, so you gotta y'all gotta invite did
Speaker 1: tell me? But I just that's one of the people
Speaker 1: to feel good. So so what is this a comedy show?
Speaker 1: And then he brings you guys out to do some
Speaker 1: songs or yeah, well basically this summer um he is
Speaker 1: a neighbor, his man Steve out there in Yellow Springs,
Speaker 1: who had this pavilion. And you know, I've known Steve
Speaker 1: for why. I remember with Steve brought the pavilion, nobody
Speaker 1: knew what he wanted to use it for what provision.
Speaker 1: It's like a outdoor structure and like a c like
Speaker 1: children in the corn He owned all the children on
Speaker 1: the cornfield space for his payment, his people to hang out.
Speaker 1: I had going to a birthday party Dave had thrown.
Speaker 1: They're doing Dave ber the party for a day of
Speaker 1: the year before. It's a nice space for people to
Speaker 1: hang out. When the pandemic happened, Dave got the idea too.
Speaker 1: Michelle Wolf is comedian who was staying that that's the
Speaker 1: that's the lady that run ten miles a day. That's right,
Speaker 1: That's right, Michelle's Michelle was out there. Danielle Rollins is
Speaker 1: always out there, so they say, yeah, actual Larry Mommer
Speaker 1: is always out there today, like let's um, let's tell
Speaker 1: some jokes in the cornfield. Will set up the chairs
Speaker 1: with socially distance. We will test the audience so it
Speaker 1: could come in. I think it started. It's weird for
Speaker 1: black people to be in cornfields and we want to
Speaker 1: be that's right to tell. People had a meetings. They
Speaker 1: tried to get a shut down, but Dave would listening
Speaker 1: on the city council meeting to listen to what the
Speaker 1: town people would say, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: then they would make jokes about you know what she
Speaker 1: is about. The situation is that's the first time that
Speaker 1: you understand that Hollywood could exist anywhere. That's what he
Speaker 1: kept saying. He kept saying that l A. He said
Speaker 1: l A is dead. Hollywood is dead. From now on,
Speaker 1: they gotta come to week where we at. So if
Speaker 1: I say that, I actually that's that's actually happening right now.
Speaker 1: So right now Joe Rogan left and went to Austin
Speaker 1: Davis in Austin right now with Joe Rogan. They're doing
Speaker 1: shows together. Yeah, and then they're gonna be in Houston
Speaker 1: next week. You know. But that's what That's what David
Speaker 1: Young Town, Ohio. What is it? Yellow springs? Yellow springs
Speaker 1: right where it's fish in the river, Yeah, Diamond. When
Speaker 1: kayak and when Niko is is kayak and that's when
Speaker 1: you're going out there with some fresh try we try
Speaker 1: to take side of baby Kayak, and he was like, wait,
Speaker 1: that's a ship, y'all gott to move to ship with
Speaker 1: your with yourself. You gotta moving both with your motor
Speaker 1: no motor, right, yeah. So right, we just read today
Speaker 1: that Kanye it's worth six point six million billion billi billion,
Speaker 1: which actually and now I'm assuming that's this net worth,
Speaker 1: right yeah, and they actually saying that he's the richest
Speaker 1: black man in the US and in history of US.
Speaker 1: That's what let's keep it. Let's get as some context though,
Speaker 1: it's about seventeen hundred billionaires on the planet Earth, only
Speaker 1: about twelve thirteen of them are black, and most of
Speaker 1: the black ones is entertainers, even though we're the majority
Speaker 1: on the planet. That's racism. That's like generational wealth racism.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying this is way more black. So we're
Speaker 1: happy for Kanye and jay Z and on him. But
Speaker 1: the fact that the seventeen hundred only twelve black, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: That that's crazy. But um, they're staying on Kanye for
Speaker 1: a second. Do you think that is he talk about
Speaker 1: still can you still talk to somebody like when you
Speaker 1: were six point six million like at this point that
Speaker 1: that's that's a very interesting point, because the fact is
Speaker 1: you're breathing very rare air and only certain people are
Speaker 1: able to exist in that stratosphere. It's almost like being
Speaker 1: out of space. The reason why Dave Chappelle is so interested,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a billionaire. I don't want to
Speaker 1: discuss too much of his finances. Everybody knows he gets
Speaker 1: his bread, and so the reason why he's so interesting
Speaker 1: is because he's able to get that amount of bread
Speaker 1: but still seem like one of us, and he's the
Speaker 1: exception to the rule. Kanye I talked with him about
Speaker 1: that Trump stuff and all that stuff and isn't that Yeah,
Speaker 1: we talked about it with their presidence here. And what's
Speaker 1: interesting about Kanye is it's like you said, it's hard
Speaker 1: to talk to someone a self made man, self made
Speaker 1: from the bottom. I don't even think jay Z. I
Speaker 1: don't think it take jay Z advice at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who's who'll tell him what to do? But it's hard
Speaker 1: to trust people too when you got that kind of bread.
Speaker 1: I've never take advice from a marriage counselor they've never
Speaker 1: been married, makes sense, and they can give you the
Speaker 1: best advice ever. Like you know, you know sometimes you
Speaker 1: know that's the best knowledge. Is the drunk from the
Speaker 1: hood that's going to block he gonna get drink, drink,
Speaker 1: give you some of the Master. He just don't got
Speaker 1: his owner for him a s they love himself, But
Speaker 1: don't overlook that that that wise man, there's a drunk
Speaker 1: that's gonna They're gonna hit you with some math to
Speaker 1: matters that makes sense. It just didn't make sense for
Speaker 1: his life. But we're seeing that diamond right, knowing that
Speaker 1: the music business and how it was back then, and
Speaker 1: seeing Dave Chappelle going or make make his his his
Speaker 1: his plot for like like I thought, we did that
Speaker 1: for they last sol when they last so came up here.
Speaker 1: We told Tom Sylvan, this is the right time to
Speaker 1: do the thing. All these old white men is, you know,
Speaker 1: looked at his masters and even owning a thing called
Speaker 1: the Master. How did you you've seen that Dave Chappelle
Speaker 1: took that stairs and Netflix took the standard they did
Speaker 1: and then actually gave him back his rights or whatever
Speaker 1: it was worked up took hibout Comedy Central Comedy said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it was the only right they did that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? It was his ship you know,
Speaker 1: like you know, you know, from the way it got
Speaker 1: to me to quality was that the people who were
Speaker 1: there in the nineties, they're not there. You gotta hope
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of young people up there and then
Speaker 1: and they just wanted to do the right thing. But
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, so that they game back
Speaker 1: his name, the show, they paid him some blood, the
Speaker 1: name the Dave Chappelle's show they did. Now he owned him.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. That was the whole thing they own own. No,
Speaker 1: that's why I was drunk. That's kind of in the
Speaker 1: music business. A lot of probably don't even own their name.
Speaker 1: But my thing, my good thing is they didn't really
Speaker 1: give a funk about me then because they spelled it wrong.
Speaker 1: That's why I spelled it in R E A E
Speaker 1: A G A said I. They just wanted, like the
Speaker 1: real dictator. Come on, I'm looking for me being smart.
Speaker 1: Ships you say, likeness, your likeness and your universe and
Speaker 1: that ship don't make no ships. That's colonizer ship. I
Speaker 1: was trying to own somebody's soul and on their own life.
Speaker 1: The slavery. This is independent. I don't got to ask that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did, partner, you got Diamond Mind because I got
Speaker 1: uh the media we partnered with in Gruse distribution, but
Speaker 1: we owned the master. That's oz. Okay, they've been around
Speaker 1: for a whiles, Okay, okay, right and um all right?
Speaker 1: How many records on this album? What is it? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm keeping it back to old and we got we
Speaker 1: got sky Do on it. We got uh who was
Speaker 1: not read all day on it? Bust the rhymes, John
Speaker 1: Forte Nico is right, you ain't got none of the
Speaker 1: new generation, none of them new niggas on that. What
Speaker 1: is The album is called God because it's dedication to
Speaker 1: not just New York, but old New York, particularly after
Speaker 1: the pandemic. New York is different right now. So it's like,
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we got it in before the pandemic.
Speaker 1: This is about the New York I grew up this
Speaker 1: this album was done. It was I listened to Cuban
Speaker 1: Links for hours before I did this album. I listened
Speaker 1: to Diamonds Catalog for hours before into this album because
Speaker 1: I wanted, Yeah, I like the way to Ray and Ghost,
Speaker 1: how the voices was different. So you listen to this album,
Speaker 1: you'll notice that one one verse I'm doing in one
Speaker 1: voice another verse. I'm doing another voice, just to have
Speaker 1: their different colors. Um, you know just how I grew up,
Speaker 1: me listening to records in the headphone on the train
Speaker 1: and the error with somebody to see how you dress
Speaker 1: and be like yo, you listen to hip hop and
Speaker 1: they give you a flyer, give you a cassette or
Speaker 1: something like that. That's what I was trying to capture
Speaker 1: with this album. That sound like the came first ryman
Speaker 1: are producing for you, um for the goth novel with
Speaker 1: just for myself yourself in general, the beats. Who I was,
Speaker 1: I was a DJ first. I started at the DJ
Speaker 1: like most producers, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 1: started at a DJ, and then from there I got
Speaker 1: into production and then you got filled with the n
Speaker 1: C like fucking I'm gonna ryme on this. Well, it
Speaker 1: was it was just gradual, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm hanging around lawd Fro. That's a lot
Speaker 1: um my man law Fro net Um the Brand New
Speaker 1: Beans when they were recording their first album. So I'm
Speaker 1: around pool By He's on fire, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, and she just rubbed off, you know, and
Speaker 1: it was a situation opened up. I got off of
Speaker 1: the deal, and I said, okay, I just took the ship.
Speaker 1: But that wasn't the norm back then a producer being
Speaker 1: m C himself and self producing, be like being an
Speaker 1: m C and producing your own album. That was normal
Speaker 1: at that time. No, it wasn't. It was. I mean,
Speaker 1: people was doing it, but you know, not not not
Speaker 1: on a major label. Amos. You had to get signed
Speaker 1: as a rapper first, and you want to grab me right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: For the food? Gis ever make some lunch for that?
Speaker 1: Where did you keep your Grammy at? Um? Well, I
Speaker 1: got the I didn't get the actual statue or if
Speaker 1: I got it, Patrick Moxy probably got. Anyway, you know,
Speaker 1: I got all the plaques and ship. You know, I
Speaker 1: gave my mom one and I got one. Um they
Speaker 1: you know, they give you like like a back and
Speaker 1: not he said, got like like a like a medallion,
Speaker 1: the whole package. But yeah, that was for the that
Speaker 1: was for the song, the score Fuji tracking the school.
Speaker 1: How did they feel when they called you and said
Speaker 1: you want to gram me? Nas? Just want to grammy?
Speaker 1: Took him twenty five years yo? Yeah, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what part I mean. So it's nice you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But it don't make or break you. But
Speaker 1: it's all we nice to be appreciated. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: shouts out to nas You know, he definitely deserved that
Speaker 1: he deserved that he ever cared about the Grammys. Uh, no,
Speaker 1: I give a funk about But you know what's funny
Speaker 1: about this, I'm ting I wanna tell you. I can't
Speaker 1: be the reason you're mad that he wanted to tell
Speaker 1: you my mad want to Grammy because I don't give
Speaker 1: a about the Grammys. And I always used to say
Speaker 1: I'm proud to be in a category of artists that
Speaker 1: didn't win a Grammy like na Us, Like don't I
Speaker 1: can't say this day hasn't gone an down with the
Speaker 1: ball me and you as the leaders. Man. I always
Speaker 1: think it's funny like that. I would like to, you know,
Speaker 1: give the accolades when when it's well deserved, as it
Speaker 1: is in No's case, in your case. But I always
Speaker 1: felt like we should have had an old awards show
Speaker 1: that's prestigious. It was called Source Awards at one point.
Speaker 1: I mean I mean it was it was there. I
Speaker 1: mean it was big at its Source Awards hit my questions.
Speaker 1: We we do got to own ship sometimes, but it's
Speaker 1: always corporate involvement. Someone gets I mean, you know, shout
Speaker 1: out to my man bad Seed. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you'll know who that is, but you know he'd be
Speaker 1: on Instagram doing like the Grind Awards, and it'd be
Speaker 1: like bad Seed versus like you know, some some rapper
Speaker 1: from like Vasti versus rusty Jucks like that. Like I
Speaker 1: like when artists do their own ship like that, like
Speaker 1: they did their own like brooklyn Hood version of versus,
Speaker 1: like Okay, we not can get celebrated on that level,
Speaker 1: but let's do what ourselves. I like seeing ship like
Speaker 1: that because like like when just did the Mix Tape Awards,
Speaker 1: just like taking in our own hands, right piece, just
Speaker 1: speaking the versus. Would you do it versus against most
Speaker 1: of death? I wouldn't. I don't think most would ever
Speaker 1: do any versus just you know, I think like that
Speaker 1: he don't like that sort of pageantry of it, but
Speaker 1: I would do what I like. I'm excited about the
Speaker 1: rain ghosting. Yeah, you know, I think emtional. I didn't
Speaker 1: initially like it, and then I went and I said, oh,
Speaker 1: you know what they do got a lot of records separately.
Speaker 1: They have a lot, but it's just a celebration of them.
Speaker 1: Want somebody was fun is to see which records, who
Speaker 1: get to play what? That's the be difficult? Yeah, just
Speaker 1: Ray Kwan get to just ghost get to play ice.
Speaker 1: They go, that's that's yeah album and they're gonna regret.
Speaker 1: Would you want to go get a producer in versus? Oh,
Speaker 1: I'll go gets anybody. Okay, let me think I as
Speaker 1: his family. Yeah, I know that's what makes it. Just
Speaker 1: want some celebration. That would be fly all right, let
Speaker 1: me that would be fly Pete Rock. You get rope
Speaker 1: to anybody anybody from the mid nineties to now who've
Speaker 1: been doing it that long a right, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's to have a similar cat log. Yeah, I say
Speaker 1: I can think. I think that's that's that's dope. I
Speaker 1: think that's leg he too, don't com this would be dope,
Speaker 1: no doubt. Large Problems never changed. He's been the same.
Speaker 1: That's the same because put in a game. I love
Speaker 1: Large Bro Bro. He still come out. How long you
Speaker 1: knew each other and well, Large Bro used to come
Speaker 1: to my hood back in the days, and he's just
Speaker 1: always a good dude. He's just always around, and so
Speaker 1: I do one for a while. I can't even tell
Speaker 1: you how long. Correct me from your main source. I knew,
Speaker 1: I think I think after me. So okay, I see
Speaker 1: you in Europe in the row with large progract. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we got a party. We go out there, we do
Speaker 1: our thing, spending right and you bet DJ and you
Speaker 1: just getting all the money. I'm a seleprity teacher. I
Speaker 1: can't say, but yeah, I come to a little spotsible
Speaker 1: one of the kovid They just opened up spot right there.
Speaker 1: Pizza pizza Bard did a couple of weeks ago. What's
Speaker 1: having the same same people? Yeah, just hoan we don't
Speaker 1: got then got the smoking a section. I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: I just TJ at that piece of bar weeks ago.
Speaker 1: So um, what's your relationship with Miami? Are you living
Speaker 1: out here? Partly? I like Miami a lot, man, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, the South is South is crazy's coming here.
Speaker 1: I was super spreading and all. But I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: Miami got something special. Miami's cultural, you know, with with
Speaker 1: all the Latino people, the Caribbean people, everybody who moved
Speaker 1: here from New York and everybody who moved here, like
Speaker 1: Miami got a special thing going on, even people locally
Speaker 1: grew up here the whole Broward SENI what y'all doing
Speaker 1: with Winwood and the Hope, What you're doing art baths
Speaker 1: on arts. Shout to Thurston how and everybody who just
Speaker 1: come and relocate. Um, Miami's very special. Yea, I've been
Speaker 1: coming different down here. At one time I used to
Speaker 1: do I'm gonna tell you bouncing number. I was just
Speaker 1: moving around on subjects. I'm gonna tell you something that
Speaker 1: you told me that made funked up my mom. We
Speaker 1: did the Russell Simmons episode. Are we talking about that? Now?
Speaker 1: That was a Quarantine episode. It was a Quarantine episode.
Speaker 1: I wanted to do what I my version of marching.
Speaker 1: I have a platform. I know how powerful it is.
Speaker 1: Well I didn't. I didn't know it. Then I know
Speaker 1: it is. So we wanted to do a panel. So
Speaker 1: I think we hit you. I think it was Bumby
Speaker 1: uh Mark Mark Lamar Hill, Lamar Hill, And no, it
Speaker 1: was no female on there. And who it was Bunby
Speaker 1: markt My hell was my song on this my song
Speaker 1: and and you and I remember on the promo it's
Speaker 1: one part of the things, this part never got out.
Speaker 1: This part never got out. But when Russ who actually
Speaker 1: came outcause first it was just us. But when Russ
Speaker 1: first came on, all of us smiled like everyone. It
Speaker 1: was just like a repression thing. But when I looked
Speaker 1: at that footage, I said, no, that can't come out
Speaker 1: because how but you said something to me saw could
Speaker 1: to day. I was like, yo, I didn't even really
Speaker 1: after that happened. I was like, I didn't really know
Speaker 1: how much they are accusing Rossa and all this. And
Speaker 1: you said something to me that I've never heard before.
Speaker 1: You said, yeah, we're we're male privileged. And I said,
Speaker 1: I had never heard, like, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: the privilege. We have a certain privileges as a man
Speaker 1: that we don't even that. It's not like we're blocking
Speaker 1: the door, we're gnoring it second nature. I had never heard,
Speaker 1: had never heard of that before, uh, Todd lip so so.
Speaker 1: And then I did my research, you know. I spoke
Speaker 1: to Mark Marc Lamar after he was argument rose a
Speaker 1: little bit too. Yeah he was, I was arguing, but
Speaker 1: it was lazy about So I went back and watched
Speaker 1: my first drink Champs that I did the first time
Speaker 1: when I got really drunk. It was great. But I
Speaker 1: brought Rose up in that drink chance and you said, well,
Speaker 1: she's Puerto Rican, I need to meet, we need to breathe.
Speaker 1: So it's bug I was like, oh, I mentioned Rose
Speaker 1: in the first time years before. It's funny that you'll
Speaker 1: started arguing and the comments were her. I mean I
Speaker 1: had a couple of exchanges with her on Twitter. I
Speaker 1: think it was mad, like it was calm. And my
Speaker 1: thing is and this goes out to a sister Rosa
Speaker 1: who I don't think I've ever met, and if I did,
Speaker 1: I apologize if I don't remember, But the cancel coachha,
Speaker 1: because this is what made me mad, and it's what
Speaker 1: made me upset, just by having rustled on. She said
Speaker 1: drinks Champs hates black woman is crazy. Okay, well I
Speaker 1: don't know what that is. Okay, that's good whiskey right there,
Speaker 1: So let me be fritis. I don't want to just
Speaker 1: leave that out there an atmosphere in the universe. So
Speaker 1: the thing about it is, I ain't supposed to know
Speaker 1: everything that's proper. Sometimes you gotta just take time out
Speaker 1: of you instead of coming at somebody and this in
Speaker 1: them that was all co side. Actually more or less
Speaker 1: didn't use the episode more for my son Tyd lived
Speaker 1: quality because these are my brothers who I look too
Speaker 1: for my consciousness. You understand what I'm saying. And when
Speaker 1: they didn't and Lamar, even Lamar Hill didn't say nothing.
Speaker 1: He put his head down. But I appreciated him and say, yo, listen,
Speaker 1: yeah he'd be after the fact. He went straight the Twitter.
Speaker 1: He went straighting Twitter, and I had to accepted, had
Speaker 1: to accept it because this is the day in time.
Speaker 1: But he was trying to cover his ass, which he
Speaker 1: was supposed to do. But like I said, and this
Speaker 1: day and time, I see the comedians that have an
Speaker 1: a rough time because they can't say certain words they
Speaker 1: can't And I just wanted you to touch on that
Speaker 1: a little bit. That when you hit me with the
Speaker 1: male privilege. Okay, but we I think we all in
Speaker 1: this room understand a bunch of dudes in this room.
Speaker 1: The first. First of all, like I love this show.
Speaker 1: This show needs a lot more women about That's the
Speaker 1: first thing. And that's you know, that's not us. We've
Speaker 1: invited them. We've invited So even with my Shapedo's party,
Speaker 1: I found it's very easy, especially in a hip hop
Speaker 1: space that's just toosterone driven to fall into the habit
Speaker 1: of just booking men because it's men that running this
Speaker 1: ship is. We don't want to do this and we
Speaker 1: won't really book guests no more the guest book. Okay,
Speaker 1: So that's it's kind of like, so what with the females.
Speaker 1: We reach out and females is different because they you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta deal with the man as you gotta do
Speaker 1: what their boyfriends you gotta deal with From day one,
Speaker 1: Queen Latifa a little kid like we we we we've
Speaker 1: reached out, but I want to leave y'all because I
Speaker 1: go above and beyond to reach out to women to
Speaker 1: give him my show to make it more balance. And
Speaker 1: that's a challenge. It's not it's not easy, but but
Speaker 1: because we have what back to the point I was saying,
Speaker 1: or everybody in his room, we understand white privilege. We
Speaker 1: understand that if you're born white, it doesn't matter whether
Speaker 1: you're what, you're poor. If you're born white, you're born
Speaker 1: with a certain amount of privilege and society. Right. So
Speaker 1: if you're born male, and that even goes for black men,
Speaker 1: if you're born male, you're born with a certain amount
Speaker 1: of privilege, certain doors open up for you in society
Speaker 1: to open up for women. The most glaring example is
Speaker 1: paid the pay rate. Women get seventy cent to every
Speaker 1: dollar that men make. That's the most glaring example. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But we everyone, Everyone has a
Speaker 1: specific amount of privilege. Straight white men have more privilege
Speaker 1: than anybody. Straight rich white men have more privilege than anybody.
Speaker 1: But everybody got some sort of privilege. And you don't
Speaker 1: become a jerk by having privilege. You become a jerk
Speaker 1: if you just don't ever acknowledge it. I think in
Speaker 1: no spaces we had some conversations. We sometimes fall into
Speaker 1: the male privilege, whether it's intentionally or not. And I
Speaker 1: think that's I think that's what we was doing in
Speaker 1: in that conversation. And so when Russell came on, I
Speaker 1: don't want to get it to the weeds about what
Speaker 1: who thinks Russell did what? The fact is that the
Speaker 1: accusations are out there, accusations have been made by credible individuals.
Speaker 1: These are not random people. These are people who have
Speaker 1: credibility in our business. The fact is that Oprahto pulled
Speaker 1: away from doing a documentary rustle because she couldn't I
Speaker 1: can't speak up. But she pulled away from it, right,
Speaker 1: So I thought he deserved the doubt from that. But
Speaker 1: that's not your platform. Are you allowed to do that? Right? No,
Speaker 1: I actually walked away from it. Actually, actually I said,
Speaker 1: well we we I didn't understand it, but I remember
Speaker 1: that episode. I wasn't even there, so I forget what
Speaker 1: my reason was. I wasn't on that and I found
Speaker 1: out after the fact, and I still found myself arguing
Speaker 1: with trying to defend our stands. And I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you something, just because we never broke it up, next
Speaker 1: time you see your person that's of your culture, that's
Speaker 1: doing something that's culturally not appropriate, you can do the
Speaker 1: same way he was DM and we were flipping on
Speaker 1: each other. Was a good ship too, sister. You let's
Speaker 1: go to each other to be understeing. I'm going to
Speaker 1: check the Rosa love you. Me and me and Rosa
Speaker 1: had had me. Rose had heated conversation about this. Me
Speaker 1: and Rose. That's my good friend. But we don't agree
Speaker 1: on every single thing. We had which we check each other.
Speaker 1: We had a heated conversation about it because her whole
Speaker 1: thing was the whole thing is at the age we at,
Speaker 1: we're supposed to know better. My whole thing was, I said,
Speaker 1: you gotta look at who Noriega is. This is a man.
Speaker 1: If you know his hip hop hip hop history, you
Speaker 1: know where Nori comes from. You know he comes from poverty,
Speaker 1: He come from situation. He built himself up out of this.
Speaker 1: And now this man who has been to jam, this
Speaker 1: man who has been through the system, is now realizing it.
Speaker 1: As an older man, I have an opportunity to take
Speaker 1: what I learned and be more positive. So let's give
Speaker 1: the brother space to grow. We're gonna be progressive. We
Speaker 1: can't assume that he knows what we know. Did I
Speaker 1: actually like, I heard the allegation, and let me just
Speaker 1: be something clear. Not taking up for Russell because if
Speaker 1: he's guilty of things that he's guilty of, then I
Speaker 1: feel like he should face the consequences. Right, there's no
Speaker 1: as about it. But this man that they describe I've
Speaker 1: never mad. I have never meant like, if you're gonna say,
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying a crime should be forgiving or whatever,
Speaker 1: but if you bring up who I was at eighteen
Speaker 1: years old, I'm not who the fucking guy I hate.
Speaker 1: Would I wouldn't hang out with that guy hanging out
Speaker 1: with the take your old version of me. He's an asshole.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He didn't. He doesn't want
Speaker 1: to come home. This guy comes home to his family.
Speaker 1: So I tend not to do that to someone else.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Why would I judge you
Speaker 1: on what you was who you was at eighteen and
Speaker 1: and you got to realize that. I'm not making no
Speaker 1: excuses for anybody, but the culture was different back then.
Speaker 1: People would literally walk up to girls and smack him
Speaker 1: when they asked. Women would literally do that to me
Speaker 1: in the office. I'll be getting the headcut. Get up
Speaker 1: a woman, Bob. I didn't know I was being me too.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't something you understand I'm saying what
Speaker 1: that was. I'm not not col siding it, but what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is that was it was more likely you
Speaker 1: to walk in and see somebody, uh one of the CEOs,
Speaker 1: somebody's up there, assistant sitting on their lap. That that
Speaker 1: was kind of the normal back then. Not not co
Speaker 1: signing it, not saying it was right, but seeing it
Speaker 1: wasn't abnormal. Yeah, you know that's the thing. That's what
Speaker 1: they talk about rape culture being normalized. It was so
Speaker 1: normal back then that we accepted it is okay. It's
Speaker 1: our job to grow and progress and change. And that's
Speaker 1: the thing with cancer culture and the only thing that
Speaker 1: the thing that's bad about it is is not giving
Speaker 1: people the chance to grow and progress, like like right now, sorry,
Speaker 1: right now, right. I don't know if you follow cam,
Speaker 1: but Cam got this this twenty nine c right, this
Speaker 1: girl from his building. She's following him, she's talking him.
Speaker 1: We're all laughing at that, right, we're laughing. He's feeling
Speaker 1: he's running away from up. Had that been a man,
Speaker 1: that wouldn't have been funny, right right, Has that been
Speaker 1: the other way around him doing that? I can see
Speaker 1: someone calling the police. And this is where our male
Speaker 1: preface comes in because women, and this is something I've learned,
Speaker 1: it's like I grow older when that happens to women,
Speaker 1: they beget murt Like when when dudes be stalking with
Speaker 1: like women, when dude, you know, when when women get
Speaker 1: cat cold and dudes they get rejected, dude, women be
Speaker 1: getting violently assaulted, And that's what it is, Like women
Speaker 1: go through that so much that Harlem. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, that the community stood up and yeah, oh
Speaker 1: I see the after effect. What happened. Um, some dude
Speaker 1: try to hole at her. She's like, no, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm good. Then when she left, just beat up. Women
Speaker 1: be going through that for so long that with men
Speaker 1: like and we've been social. Look, I just went through
Speaker 1: some ship recently with somebody saying some ship about what
Speaker 1: happened with me. When I went back to the situation,
Speaker 1: I'm like, if I had did that to a woman,
Speaker 1: that would have been raped what this woman did to me.
Speaker 1: But as when it happened when I was like my
Speaker 1: early twenties in my career, we looked at us and
Speaker 1: fly ship. So what happened advantage? I didn't look at
Speaker 1: it like that at that time. Give me no exctasy,
Speaker 1: but just the way which she was coming at me
Speaker 1: and the way in where she was like pressed about
Speaker 1: the ship where I found myself hiding from this woman,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I told my friends
Speaker 1: are on some funny ship. But twenty years later, I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: not I was sexual harassment right all right? But I
Speaker 1: thought it was fly because I never had that cat calling.
Speaker 1: I never had that attention. I never had until I
Speaker 1: became a rapper. What I'm saying, But we're like, we
Speaker 1: gotta figure like the conversation. But I think all of
Speaker 1: us know for a fact that rape culture, everything that
Speaker 1: we're talking about, none of us coach signed starts to
Speaker 1: get murky. Is the cancel culture side of it, where
Speaker 1: it just every the society has become judge and jury. Boom, Well,
Speaker 1: how you draw out the baby with the bath water?
Speaker 1: How do you throw out everyone? And I'm not even
Speaker 1: gonna start naming names because I don't want nobody to
Speaker 1: can but let me how you were here for that
Speaker 1: because we couldn't handle it like that because we was
Speaker 1: on zoom zoom get called out, you would get cut
Speaker 1: off when you're trying to This is not it. We're
Speaker 1: here for this time. We're here to happen. Okay, so
Speaker 1: let's let's let's break it down. We just actually let's
Speaker 1: just tell you something. But I just noticed they're trying
Speaker 1: to go and take Russells ship off for all these
Speaker 1: like his name of the Tatsu Harvey is you can
Speaker 1: still watching Mary Max. You're not man, but you can't
Speaker 1: destroy the legacy pops up, Bro, I'm the other day company.
Speaker 1: Other days Netflix wasn't working, my my my Prime video
Speaker 1: wasn't working, my whole it wasn't working. So I went
Speaker 1: back to cable and I watched the regular cable until
Speaker 1: the ship well, and I'm just randomly just don't do
Speaker 1: movies and still seeing his name pop up on offist
Speaker 1: you Cable. Not wrong, but I think that the thing
Speaker 1: we have to do as men is realized that because
Speaker 1: we teach our children this, we teach our children were
Speaker 1: just because he's doing it doesn't mean it's okay for you.
Speaker 1: So as men we have to be like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: Harvey Washtein exists and Jeffrey Epstein exists, but just because
Speaker 1: they exist, we can't use what about us, and we
Speaker 1: can't see what about this. We have to we have
Speaker 1: to own our ship. So I think you can't from
Speaker 1: a place where you didn't understand the ramification, but now
Speaker 1: that you do, I still actually understand fully because I'm
Speaker 1: looking at people reposting Russell Simmonds, that's a woman, but
Speaker 1: he's a thing that him being bied doings and said
Speaker 1: not me. Yeah, But what I'm saying is, but even
Speaker 1: if women in proximity has not he didn't do it.
Speaker 1: He has not been, but he's not been. He's not
Speaker 1: been r But let me ask you this. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: like you had to ask me about it, now that
Speaker 1: you know, with knowledge comes responsibility. You couldn't have me
Speaker 1: on the show without asking me. So now that you know,
Speaker 1: if Russell was sitting in his chair, you know you'd
Speaker 1: be asking. I have to laugh. You know what I
Speaker 1: would do. This would be my first time I had
Speaker 1: somebody goes right my video, my interview. I would actually
Speaker 1: go let Rose and give me all the question. Yes,
Speaker 1: you give me the question that in that instance when
Speaker 1: he joined the zoom should have been But that's and
Speaker 1: that's where I was going. You didn't do it because
Speaker 1: you didn't know, But had you known. The way for
Speaker 1: us to do it is we can't We can't say
Speaker 1: that Russell Simmons is not worthy to be in the conversation.
Speaker 1: But if he's in the conversation, well then we got
Speaker 1: to deal with it. To say that that you asked Carriss,
Speaker 1: what about coming like, we're not We're not going to
Speaker 1: not have caress. That's why we aren't going to ask
Speaker 1: to her. You know what it was I didn't realize
Speaker 1: that I'm also a journalist too. I wasn't being a journalist.
Speaker 1: I was being a Black Lives Matter was being a
Speaker 1: black person being a journalist. And I see Mark Head
Speaker 1: goes to market the journalists for hen to the actor,
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, what was that? Yeah? Yeah, soon
Speaker 1: as you we hung up Head treat. It's like Mark
Speaker 1: Lamart said, he's not what. I'm like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: And I had to deal with it. But again, sisters,
Speaker 1: our coach of people that really like, you really know,
Speaker 1: I love this coach. You really know that, you really
Speaker 1: know I'm coming from a place of almost stupidity if
Speaker 1: I coaturally don't be appropriate sometime I'm coming from a
Speaker 1: place of stupidity, not a straight stupidity. You don't you
Speaker 1: should didn't chastize me for every stupid move, but for
Speaker 1: every move that you take. Sometimes you really need to
Speaker 1: just hit somebody and say you're listen, bro, you might
Speaker 1: not want to do that. Boom boom boom, boom boom boom,
Speaker 1: and then you take it from there. I had a
Speaker 1: little Kim on my show and she talked about being
Speaker 1: a teenager when she dropped that album cover hardcoorn, how
Speaker 1: niggas and jail loved it everything. And she said she
Speaker 1: thought she was just having fun being a young lady.
Speaker 1: And as see the Lorias, Tucker and them came and
Speaker 1: they was steamrolling her CDs and she said something interesting,
Speaker 1: She said, I was just a child. Why did this
Speaker 1: older black lady hit pulled me to the side and
Speaker 1: give me some life advice? And I don't know what
Speaker 1: I was doing, but why did they attack me? Media?
Speaker 1: Doesn't that even the way you just said it right now?
Speaker 1: Maybe even creepier though that that cover that she was
Speaker 1: a child? Like whoever the imagery I'm saying now that
Speaker 1: we're older now the way you're saying she's a child,
Speaker 1: I got a daughter. But that was the culture back then,
Speaker 1: sexual ship going on, like the people were openly about
Speaker 1: eating pussy and sucking dick and and all. This is
Speaker 1: this is what we hit, was Deliverment, and it was
Speaker 1: a part of it, like watching this ship go down,
Speaker 1: this super sexist ship going down. It was we you
Speaker 1: guys are la grow but I don't. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can attack delric You think Luke
Speaker 1: Luke got daughters. You think he was thinking of that now,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't want to have to be careful. We
Speaker 1: can't attack the freedom of speech either, and and and
Speaker 1: freedom to be creative. I don't know whether to me
Speaker 1: there's a finalance I supposed to. Let me just say,
Speaker 1: because Luke ended up running for office and Luke as
Speaker 1: him doing positive, let me just say, imagine that housing
Speaker 1: you back then. It doesn't matter how sexual girls sucking.
Speaker 1: What I want to say is, no matter what ratchees,
Speaker 1: no matter what Rache ratchet ship you went to as
Speaker 1: a rapper, he was the only one you said you
Speaker 1: can't smoke camera, you end up being a conscious, conscious rapper.
Speaker 1: Matter said, if you get to a certain you go
Speaker 1: play if rappers a video game, and you get to
Speaker 1: the boss, you get to the top. If you if
Speaker 1: you survive all the ship to rap, you either become
Speaker 1: even if you're not conscious of your lyrics, you become
Speaker 1: a conscious individual. Every gangster rapper from Too Short to Nori,
Speaker 1: you know that everybody turned to new if you survive
Speaker 1: a ship. Okay, yeah, man, you're right. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: a good conversation because I actually don't know which we
Speaker 1: may not be qualified for this may in it, but
Speaker 1: and that and that's what's interesting is when I look
Speaker 1: at Simon's thing and I see that woman support him
Speaker 1: so like so like that's why it's weird to me. It's,
Speaker 1: like I said, it's one of those subjects where it
Speaker 1: is it's just in the I think it's about personal responsibility.
Speaker 1: There's some women who like rustle then do not wrong.
Speaker 1: That's some women that's that's like he's a rapist, But
Speaker 1: it's about we can't judge how we're gonna behave on
Speaker 1: how others we had to look. You know, we have
Speaker 1: Russell is Russell Simmons, that's Russell Rush. Like we can't
Speaker 1: erase what he did a hip hop but you know,
Speaker 1: he's just I think because of what he did in
Speaker 1: hip hop, because we really done for the community, he
Speaker 1: deserves to have his voice heard. Now what he says
Speaker 1: with his voice, we'll have to judge. And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell people like this that I never said this story.
Speaker 1: Hopefully I think I never said this story, But those
Speaker 1: women deserved that. He definitely not publicly. When now had
Speaker 1: a seven shootout happened and they banned us. They banned
Speaker 1: us immediately. They pulled every record from Compona Noriega to Noriega,
Speaker 1: to thugged out to the firm. Whatever record I was on,
Speaker 1: they pulled it. They pulled it. You know who got
Speaker 1: me to get back on the Radio's Russell. He was
Speaker 1: dead for me the time that I needed him. I
Speaker 1: gotta say, the hardest conscious rapper out now is Camponent.
Speaker 1: Get back to that and with a key time for
Speaker 1: me to show back that favor. I stood with the woman.
Speaker 1: M hmm, I want to make that clip. I still
Speaker 1: with the woman because I but I think I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think it's mutually exclusive. I
Speaker 1: think you could show solidarity for women as to respect
Speaker 1: Russell's contributions to your life, to this coach. I tried to,
Speaker 1: but when the comments was so well, when they were
Speaker 1: and then and what they were doing was I felt
Speaker 1: bad for our partners because they were blaming it on
Speaker 1: um uh the title and puff there was like look
Speaker 1: at this puffing and jay Z puts Russell Simmons on
Speaker 1: Russell Simmings on Dreamcat like you got nothing. So it
Speaker 1: was crazy and we're we're doing hip hop effects uncovered
Speaker 1: with our big you bid me and he said the
Speaker 1: only part that they hated. Is that the studio made
Speaker 1: him take Russell Simmons out, he said, but they let
Speaker 1: us interview murderous. He said, look at our markets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's the mother ship, right, some other ship that's
Speaker 1: like that day Chapelle jokes six and Stones where he's like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not a nigger either. Yeah, that's this is a
Speaker 1: deep conversation. This is deep, man. I ain't even looking
Speaker 1: at my notes. Holy mouse, you said you go above
Speaker 1: and beyond to book more female guests. Yeah, what is
Speaker 1: it that you're doing. Give us an example. Shout out
Speaker 1: to my team because we haven't had light on, but
Speaker 1: we've had We've had We've had a lot of female guests.
Speaker 1: We had last week, we had Dasher Polanco. Next week
Speaker 1: is Sonny Anderson. Um Sonny told said to say what's
Speaker 1: up as well? I know that that's one of us. Yeah.
Speaker 1: There was an argument on the squad because they kept
Speaker 1: booking really good guests. We had busted d M mex
Speaker 1: And and I'm like, yo, I gave him a list
Speaker 1: of women the book. I'm like, make sure you get
Speaker 1: I gave him as ten women. I said, get your
Speaker 1: bad and that average needs to be three hundred book
Speaker 1: three of these women and then months went by. We
Speaker 1: get in dope, ask but they ain't getting none in women.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yo, if I'm not pushing to get women,
Speaker 1: we we we all as the team are default is
Speaker 1: to just be comfortable with the with the male talking,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like we, I think we need
Speaker 1: to balance and I think people like us who had
Speaker 1: the platforms we gotta fight for it. Um yeah, we
Speaker 1: we just gotta fight for it. And shout out to
Speaker 1: your coat as well. Now you worked on a low
Speaker 1: end theory with TP called chust. Yeah, you know on
Speaker 1: the song show bits I run on that song. I
Speaker 1: didn't that you should tell the story about how you
Speaker 1: got on that record. Okay, yeah's all right? So this
Speaker 1: this this is crazy right. I went down I went
Speaker 1: down to the to the session to play some beasts
Speaker 1: for Tipper. Yeah. Yeah, just just want I feel bad
Speaker 1: over yet that you want some of this. I want
Speaker 1: somebody st a little bit. I'm gonna be honest, I am,
Speaker 1: but just man, Mr Lead, who's the whiskey drinker who
Speaker 1: comm to Jamison? Yeah? Mr Lee? So show business right,
Speaker 1: tripical quests. So I go down to Battley Studios, and
Speaker 1: I'm trying to play tests joints. Um. Oh so I'm drinking.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, yeah, so a little m so
Speaker 1: I'm playing tips and beats. Um. At this point, Tipping
Speaker 1: Knew had a deal for the Stunts Pluss and Hip
Speaker 1: Hop album. We would see each other, like Jackie, we
Speaker 1: will see each other up about Jazz j Studio up
Speaker 1: in the Bronx. I'm down here playing beats for him
Speaker 1: and Lord Jaman some diet they show up, they do
Speaker 1: they do their verses right. Well, the first time they
Speaker 1: they did verse, Pooba was there. I wasn't there the
Speaker 1: first time, but anyway that what happened was Pooba his verse.
Speaker 1: You know he was told been him out gaze and
Speaker 1: you know, just kicking in the buck. You know, he's
Speaker 1: a father center so you already know this stance. So
Speaker 1: Job is like, all right, listen, we love pool By,
Speaker 1: you know, asking to write a new verse. Poop. I
Speaker 1: was like, what, you're dead on that? So he didn't
Speaker 1: want to write a new verse. Who was on a lecture?
Speaker 1: There was on the lecture at that time. But but
Speaker 1: this is this is on I'm cute, this is on
Speaker 1: Trapical quest albums. I know you said job and that
Speaker 1: job so um. So when I showed up to play
Speaker 1: play took some some beats. He was like, yo, you
Speaker 1: want to jump on the song all right? I was like, hell, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that, like me being
Speaker 1: on that on that album kind of set up my album,
Speaker 1: you know, because the Lower Theory came out maybe a
Speaker 1: few months before Stunts, blunt and hip hop. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? But how many mcs round on the
Speaker 1: tribe bobum, you know what I mean? I did, It's
Speaker 1: only of us, just take that's crazy though. It was crazy.
Speaker 1: I watched the documentary the other day and I cried
Speaker 1: like I never saw it again because when I saw
Speaker 1: him and que Tip argue, I actually called coupon. I
Speaker 1: didn't tell him what I was calling him. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I just want you to know
Speaker 1: I leve you, bro, And he was like, because it's
Speaker 1: just weird, just love you. Because I related to cute
Speaker 1: Tip and both was making sense. I was, yeah, I
Speaker 1: was both for them. At one point. I was like, oh, shoot,
Speaker 1: he's right, but then the other one would saying something.
Speaker 1: I was like, how is he? I looked and I
Speaker 1: was like, wow, and it's crazy, because, yeah, I think that.
Speaker 1: I think the most slept on two in the hip
Speaker 1: hop is the hip hop documentary. Like since Rhyming Reason,
Speaker 1: I watched Around the Reason twice a year. Just makes
Speaker 1: your my mom right and he best slow down over
Speaker 1: there over there, man, you know what I'm saying. They
Speaker 1: helped me drink the champage, so you know, you got
Speaker 1: all the brothers helping, you know. But I think that's
Speaker 1: the most slept on the hip hop documentary. Like I
Speaker 1: would love to see a Black Star. I would want
Speaker 1: to Black Star documentary more. Did I want a Black
Speaker 1: Star album after that? I've never made a film before
Speaker 1: in my life. But after we do this, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: show y'all a ten minute rough for the Black Star
Speaker 1: documentary that I've been working on the last two years.
Speaker 1: Last two years. Okay, wow, I'm saying some of that
Speaker 1: ship has been filmed on my iPhone. But documentary first
Speaker 1: of doctors my favorite style of the film. I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm being entertained and learning something at the same time.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that that is hill into that. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: was on the Tribal album because I went to the
Speaker 1: Afro punk cute Tip was in Brooklyn to see Ice
Speaker 1: Cube perform. He was performing at Afro Punk, a couple
Speaker 1: of blocks from where I stay. You see how just
Speaker 1: and Q tipping me and decided we're gonna work in
Speaker 1: the record. We've been talking about the song. You know,
Speaker 1: Tipp is talking about a record of two years I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get this record. Five passed away, and so
Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm like, funk that record. I'm never
Speaker 1: asking for that record again. Like if I hit, if
Speaker 1: I hit, Bro, it's just on some just what's up?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because like the friendships in
Speaker 1: the in the brotherhood is more important than I was
Speaker 1: getting a studio. And when I seen him, it was
Speaker 1: the first time I seen him since Fife passed. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what I'm saying, And he's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: what happened to that song? We're gonna do the song.
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, bro, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like we could do the song, but he invited me
Speaker 1: over the crib. When I went over the crib as
Speaker 1: him drove me there and they listened in the songs
Speaker 1: of him and Fife did that nobody had heard and
Speaker 1: they listening to Tip his mixing records and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm dropping a tropical Quest album And I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: would you mind if I'm on the last album. I
Speaker 1: just came through his house every day to watch him
Speaker 1: work on this album. You want him beat Rob? Yeah,
Speaker 1: just kid, give me, just give me that ship. But yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it's one of my friend paid me. I was like,
Speaker 1: you get paid. I was like, I supposed to listen
Speaker 1: his jobs could move when you was because that was
Speaker 1: Beach Robs in Life is a is an underrated trial album,
Speaker 1: but the connection, the Queen's connection and the connection they
Speaker 1: made between the North East side of Queens to see
Speaker 1: an inside of Queens and the trial Quest side of
Speaker 1: question was very important for the coaches because it wasn't
Speaker 1: too later. I'm gonna tell you something. I fight first heard, No,
Speaker 1: you know what it is and you know that you
Speaker 1: know Jack, he didn't really feel me at first, like
Speaker 1: kind of Jack fight competitive competitive. And the other connection
Speaker 1: to that album is the guy who created our logo,
Speaker 1: Scam who did that album. When I'm on is he
Speaker 1: a Beach Life for Love movement? Love movement? Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was just just just whiteum cover. When when when When
Speaker 1: when you watch the documentary like that David d and
Speaker 1: all the relationships and ups and downs, did you see like,
Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna tell you something that's makes gonna make
Speaker 1: me sound very, very very naive. I didn't really see
Speaker 1: Fife look that sick like I saw him. Did you
Speaker 1: notice that in real life? No? Like whenever I saw
Speaker 1: a Fife, I never really saw him sick. Right? Was
Speaker 1: you living in Atlanta the same time he was there? Um? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw him that I was seeing. You know, you don't,
Speaker 1: like when you're sick, you don't come outside, so you
Speaker 1: know he's outside. You know he's Fife. But you know
Speaker 1: most people who were sick on that level, when they're sick,
Speaker 1: they stay indoors. Yeah, you know what I mean. You
Speaker 1: know you don't want to be you know, you don't
Speaker 1: want to come around and people cheat you like like
Speaker 1: like like a pity case. Because I I didn't see
Speaker 1: the same thing with Punt. People said they were signs.
Speaker 1: The only thing I've seen on with Pun he got bigger,
Speaker 1: but not that didn't even make me so I didn't
Speaker 1: even Knowice like because he was just I just always
Speaker 1: met him as a big guy one of the signs.
Speaker 1: I didn't know this was bad form TV video shoot.
Speaker 1: I remember me talking and we're just kicking it, and
Speaker 1: he just went into sleep and he just started snoring.
Speaker 1: So I thought my story was trash. Like I didn't know,
Speaker 1: Like I was like, really stepped my game the sleep
Speaker 1: sleep for me. And it wasn't till later on when
Speaker 1: it was like, yo, that's that's that. But I didn't know,
Speaker 1: like I mean, even down to the funeral. You know,
Speaker 1: they gave everybody like a certain amount of time to
Speaker 1: go to the casket. And I sat there and I
Speaker 1: sat down, and I guess I got in the praying stance.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how I got there, but and
Speaker 1: I kept crying. And I remember the people from TS like, yo,
Speaker 1: he's in a better place. I was like, how's it
Speaker 1: in a better place. It's like he's not suffering. I'm
Speaker 1: like suffering. They're like, yeah, no, you't know. And I
Speaker 1: didn't see pun stuffing. Is that meet me him naive
Speaker 1: or you know, just like probably winning around him like
Speaker 1: that either, And maybe he didn't show that side himself
Speaker 1: to you. It's like when he said if you if
Speaker 1: he felt bad, he probably din't come out when he
Speaker 1: felt better. Now, what what's up with Lord Finess? Lord? Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: that's my brother. Um for next, he just put out
Speaker 1: an album. Um, he just remixed UM a bunch of
Speaker 1: Motown records. UM and that that that that's incredible. Um.
Speaker 1: He's also he's out there on the West coast. You know,
Speaker 1: he running around. But your man Russell Peters, so you
Speaker 1: know he know, he do his thing. You know, he's
Speaker 1: still Djane. I'm trying to get Finesse to make another
Speaker 1: MC album. Wow, that would be tough. You know. You
Speaker 1: know what I just found out the other day. Cameron
Speaker 1: literally told me this yesterday. He said, you could go
Speaker 1: to the label right now and get hit him with that. YO.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to be a master and on a mask
Speaker 1: at this point, right, So let's negotiate to get our
Speaker 1: master's back, to go back. He said. If they say no,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a legal law that you can go
Speaker 1: in and do your old he said, you know, he
Speaker 1: said eight year statue limitation on that. Did you have
Speaker 1: you heard of this? To do your over you can
Speaker 1: do your whole album? Yeah, what say arrested that the community? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he did that. He did that. He had an album
Speaker 1: that he sold the rights too early in his career.
Speaker 1: Then he blew up and he went back to the dude.
Speaker 1: He said, listen, I got this amount of money, give
Speaker 1: me to write some my out back. The dude was like, no,
Speaker 1: it's too valuable. So he just went and did the
Speaker 1: whole set over, recorded it over at a comedy club,
Speaker 1: joke for joke, and put it out himself. He got
Speaker 1: arrested right after. Yeah, this was after. This was after
Speaker 1: his arrest. He was hanging with him and it was
Speaker 1: we just saw him at the bar. You drinking, but
Speaker 1: I could see how he was drinking. To the killer,
Speaker 1: I said, he's gonna be fit he get arrested tonight. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of. He is sober since theant really don't
Speaker 1: drink like like like drunk Hannibal bro like that. That
Speaker 1: is a great guy when he's drunk. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: he's good. Let me qualified because he did say this
Speaker 1: to me, because I said, you're sober now. He said, listen,
Speaker 1: I just don't drink. So yeah, that's that's that's real.
Speaker 1: That's real, old movie, block of movie. How long you
Speaker 1: had your studio in Midtown Manhattan? Came here once seven
Speaker 1: eight years and that's ship that was like my best
Speaker 1: worst investment. No, that's miss mys All thunked out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had the best location. We didn't have the best equipment,
Speaker 1: We didn't have the best anything else, just the best location,
Speaker 1: just the fruits on, but carry was there. What I
Speaker 1: know was back then was people didn't want to come
Speaker 1: to see me in Queens because they just thought that
Speaker 1: whatever part of Queen's he from, it gotta be bad.
Speaker 1: Which was when this town, which was not right then
Speaker 1: when I went. I had one in Jersey. I had
Speaker 1: a studio in Jersey. Uh, people didn't want to travel.
Speaker 1: They felt like Jersey was out of town. And I
Speaker 1: had my joint I was in. Were talking which was
Speaker 1: like the next town, but no one, no one could convinced.
Speaker 1: But when I got the hood, lad was on thirty
Speaker 1: second in Madison. Between thirty first thirty second in Madison,
Speaker 1: it was the location everyone from Mike Ryan Carry the
Speaker 1: Diamond d the big ticket UH to e FN. Everybody
Speaker 1: would go because their hotels is ten minutes away. Everyone
Speaker 1: said it was so exactly, it was so hotel. It
Speaker 1: was dope because at the time, you know, they didn't
Speaker 1: look at me as a person that's gonna send an invoice.
Speaker 1: So if I put Norrie Studio, because you know, I
Speaker 1: had to send invoices for people but booking sessions, like
Speaker 1: I literally paid myself to be called my own at
Speaker 1: my own studio, but they wouldn't give me the money
Speaker 1: like Homeboy Exchange. I had to literally make a studio
Speaker 1: session logging you know what I'm saying, and then present
Speaker 1: depth with the joints that's took the Hood lab instead
Speaker 1: of like Norwri studio. But yeah, it was a great investment.
Speaker 1: I should have actually made it a real studio where
Speaker 1: you know, other people could rent it out, because if
Speaker 1: you didn't know me, you wouldn't rent this ship out,
Speaker 1: like you know, like listen to me, like what's her name,
Speaker 1: Evie Queen, the reggae throng artist, Evie Queen, since she
Speaker 1: came to be called, came to be called and we
Speaker 1: were like fire niggers like we probably this is to
Speaker 1: be clear, I made it was fired in definitely right
Speaker 1: I told about we didn't mob, We didn't do none
Speaker 1: of that, but it was it was a vibe though.
Speaker 1: You would go there and make five six records because
Speaker 1: we had a vibe but we didn't really clean. We
Speaker 1: cleaned once maybe twice a month. So yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it just had to I was trying to make D
Speaker 1: and D D. But yes, like we would have the
Speaker 1: NBC with the NBC box on it like that it
Speaker 1: came in like you know, using people somebody by a table. No,
Speaker 1: we just just kept the box that came on the NBC.
Speaker 1: So get back to this story. Evie Queen is starting
Speaker 1: to record and in the room that she recorded and
Speaker 1: we had carpet, but she walks out of the room
Speaker 1: that we recorded and without her shoes on. I was like,
Speaker 1: no shoes we got, we got. E got a little
Speaker 1: crazy here. I don't want to just jump on your point.
Speaker 1: She was like, why might be dome from together? I
Speaker 1: was like, this might be worse than together, like they
Speaker 1: might be harving things on the flute. You gotta go
Speaker 1: your own, Madison. So each year the rent got higher
Speaker 1: and higher, but it was dope for for me that time, Expirit, So,
Speaker 1: what's what's your favorite part of hip hop? Is? It?
Speaker 1: Is it making the record, performing the record everything, but
Speaker 1: as a producer, creating something out of nothing, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, that's that's that's that's the dopest family
Speaker 1: for me. What about you? The fact that black people
Speaker 1: marginalize people, people who come from nothing could take art
Speaker 1: and create a megaphone check to broadcast what we experienced globally.
Speaker 1: I think it's fly. Yeah. I like that too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like how you already dead like you, I don't
Speaker 1: know you you noticed? I remember we used to have
Speaker 1: to wait for our albums to come out in England,
Speaker 1: like they would literally come out two months later in
Speaker 1: the UK versions and the UK version. And now that
Speaker 1: you can just make an album and that's it could
Speaker 1: be in Japan the same day it's in forty Priest Jackson,
Speaker 1: it could be in the same days in Brooklyn, it
Speaker 1: could be Osaka and all that. I think that did
Speaker 1: you think? What do y'all think about streaming? Though? Man?
Speaker 1: I've been having this conversation. It's accomplished, really yeah, man,
Speaker 1: because people yeah, man like like because this n f
Speaker 1: T ship is popping off, right and it's just popping off,
Speaker 1: and you can sell a picture of us right now,
Speaker 1: off a picture of us and that could be worth
Speaker 1: six and we get and we get with the right people,
Speaker 1: get read right team. We could sell it and become millionaires,
Speaker 1: possibly the royalties as it gets so definitely have a
Speaker 1: situation where streaming was always unfair. The price point is unfair,
Speaker 1: but if you create something, you get to create the
Speaker 1: price point, just like any business. But the thing that
Speaker 1: makes the most unfair is that we don't get to
Speaker 1: see what Apple. We get to see, but with titles Spotify,
Speaker 1: something we don't. We don't get to see Think you
Speaker 1: get to see Apple, you think, but you really don't. Right,
Speaker 1: we don't get to see the whole ship. So it's
Speaker 1: like they're telling us, look, this is your percentage, but
Speaker 1: they're not telling us what they're making. They're not telling
Speaker 1: us you know. And that's the whole problem with it
Speaker 1: is that it's not transparent. We were making we're making
Speaker 1: pieces of a penny for each stream. But the problem
Speaker 1: is you have to make a decision as a as
Speaker 1: a businessman or and a creator. Are you a populist
Speaker 1: who wants the people to hear whatever you got to hear?
Speaker 1: Are you only in it for your bread and you
Speaker 1: don't care if a small elite group of people hear it.
Speaker 1: Because if you're a populist, then you're gonna work within
Speaker 1: the system of music assumers are getting their ship from Spotify.
Speaker 1: So if you're populist, you want your ship of Spotify,
Speaker 1: you want people to hear it. They're not, they're not
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But if you just if
Speaker 1: if that's not important to you, well then you could
Speaker 1: just make your ship exclusive and only a certain people
Speaker 1: you know, Rock Marciano, certain people. Certain artists have figured
Speaker 1: it out, right, they have made it to where a
Speaker 1: Nipsey figured it out. You know, you can follow the example.
Speaker 1: But that's where the conflict is for artists right now.
Speaker 1: It's like do you sell your soul so that the
Speaker 1: masses can hear your ship or do you keep it
Speaker 1: more to your more exclusive or finding that balance where
Speaker 1: you utilize what's there now, But you're always working towards
Speaker 1: getting away from that. Like a Strange Music where they
Speaker 1: found that the physical side, they've been able to sell
Speaker 1: physical like like no other label has today to whereas
Speaker 1: Techno is number three on the forms list in terms
Speaker 1: of toring income. But then pandemics hit and that's the
Speaker 1: type of things that that affect I'm speaking of that
Speaker 1: have that aspected your yeah bag like um as far
Speaker 1: as not being able to do shows. Has that been
Speaker 1: effective for you, because I know, like big overseas, like
Speaker 1: big overseason, I mean for me and not related my business,
Speaker 1: because my entire business model was based around Torn. I'm
Speaker 1: very just stopped having much based around Torn a year ago,
Speaker 1: right on time, right, So I'm very blessed that I
Speaker 1: found certain situations and I figured some sh it out,
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying, like to whereas I
Speaker 1: can still I just a good opportunity for me to
Speaker 1: plug my book. I had a book deal, I wrote
Speaker 1: my book. I've been trying to get the book out,
Speaker 1: but when the pandemic hit, I focused on that. I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, let me focus on getting the book.
Speaker 1: As a book is called vibrate higher, Vibrate higher. Happy
Speaker 1: you got your copies out there. It's it's it's um
Speaker 1: getting rave reviews. It's it's my my autobiography mixed in
Speaker 1: with social commentary and the history of the hip hop.
Speaker 1: I was listening to at the time Mays for that.
Speaker 1: God damn. So I've been you know, but it's it's
Speaker 1: been very um. People don't like to hear artists or
Speaker 1: celebrities complained because we chose this. You know what, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but it's been very hard to figure it out. But
Speaker 1: I've been blessed to be able to pivot in a
Speaker 1: way now, Diamond, you worked with forty five King back
Speaker 1: in the day. How how was that? I never got
Speaker 1: to work with him as a producer, Like I always
Speaker 1: kind of admired, I never got a chance. How was that?
Speaker 1: How was the experiencing with you? Um yo? Like I
Speaker 1: was a fan, like you know Hetrom the Bronx, but
Speaker 1: at that time I didn't know you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: but shouts out to Mark. You know, Mark is the
Speaker 1: one um. In the early nineties, Russell Simmons had a
Speaker 1: thing called RPM Rush Producer's Man and easy Mobi was
Speaker 1: over there. There was a few few other producers over
Speaker 1: a lot of professor was over there, and you know
Speaker 1: forty five King. He made a phone call and he
Speaker 1: got me and he set up a meeting with me
Speaker 1: over there. This when Francesca spiroit was over there and
Speaker 1: they wanted him signing me. So you know, he had
Speaker 1: a big, big hand like in my early production career
Speaker 1: him and shouts out to my man DJ Jazzy J.
Speaker 1: Of course he's the one who like taught me foundations.
Speaker 1: You want to do the shot a shot, I don't
Speaker 1: know what you gotta tell you? How about show Business
Speaker 1: A g How was it working with them shows? Come on,
Speaker 1: you know we'll be with each other, so you know,
Speaker 1: it's just family. That was a tough album. You made
Speaker 1: that whole album. Oh no, no, I co coulduce thum?
Speaker 1: Can I get a soul? Clapp? Me and show Biz
Speaker 1: we we both did that drink okay okay, So that
Speaker 1: was like that was like one of the first big joints.
Speaker 1: Then they would on to do other great things. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Did you think the like hip
Speaker 1: hop and how pure it was? You think that now, um,
Speaker 1: that we would have an artist like Cardi b like
Speaker 1: doing like I think if she did a hundred million
Speaker 1: the other day or she's the first some crazy. I
Speaker 1: mean she's the first female artist shout out out to
Speaker 1: Cardi beats from the Bronx. But it's like it's dope.
Speaker 1: It's dope. I personally love card But it's so different
Speaker 1: back then you already know knowing it. Like in the nineties,
Speaker 1: it was just the lyric system is like really taken seriously.
Speaker 1: Everybody got their shots, right, I mean, you got your shots.
Speaker 1: I'm a shot at what already got. Okay, cool, cool, cool,
Speaker 1: very smart. You learned from drink Chace lesson your listen.
Speaker 1: We don't know if y'all know, but this is about
Speaker 1: you know, and in this business, it's about giving people
Speaker 1: these flowers to they face. You know, you guys are
Speaker 1: two or great. I can't believe how. I can't wait
Speaker 1: to hear how this album sound. Can't wait to read
Speaker 1: the book, can't wait that you keep supporting. That's what
Speaker 1: we do over here. We support each other. Man. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. As you can see, I got
Speaker 1: my DJ college jacking on, boy boy, I didn't get
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Speaker 1: Food Kings. I had a steak from Organic Organic Food Kids.
Speaker 1: When I was speaking the Organic Food Kings, they said,
Speaker 1: come through, We're gonna take care of you. So I
Speaker 1: was like, I gotta go through because they showed me
Speaker 1: so much love. I went through, but I did to think.
Speaker 1: I was on my way the airport and I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to eat vegan food in the She
Speaker 1: didn't want to eat vegan food in the car with
Speaker 1: the masks and ship on the way to the airport,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's not gonna be good when I
Speaker 1: get to the airport. And I was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go anyway. And I went anyway, got the ship and
Speaker 1: ate the ship at the airport and she was still good.
Speaker 1: Far was faring about the questions too far. There's no
Speaker 1: far vegan food. You know, there's a lot of vegan
Speaker 1: food making me far you ever vegan fool? I'm not
Speaker 1: a little bit right here. Yeah, sometimes I'll be far ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Ter view is going off. Sometimes it's a good, healthy part.
Speaker 1: That's what. Sometimes. Sometimes gotta part break. Sometimes you gotta lee,
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta talk a little bit about big
Speaker 1: Out and the legacy. Yes, I feel like we don't
Speaker 1: we don't talk enough about Bigger. I mean, you know Bigger,
Speaker 1: you know, definitely was on his way to being one
Speaker 1: of the greatest. Think you know, people are already look
Speaker 1: at him that way, and you know he's been dead
Speaker 1: all these years, you know what I mean. Um, especially
Speaker 1: that one freestyle session he had with jay Z on
Speaker 1: a stretch your arm strong, Yeah, kind of kind of
Speaker 1: handled jay Z up there. He was supposed to be
Speaker 1: signing the Rocket Feller yeah, you know what I mean, So,
Speaker 1: I mean, what can you say? You know? Lamont definitely
Speaker 1: one of the best um lifestyles of the um foreign dangerous,
Speaker 1: It's dangerous right then. Um the second album The Big
Speaker 1: Picture that wind up going go and he wasn't even
Speaker 1: here to see that, and all the indie stuff he
Speaker 1: did and big like the first Street when the Streets No,
Speaker 1: Scott the Rock was when the Streets got involved with
Speaker 1: a rapper killing. But I was about to let me
Speaker 1: correct myself. I think Scott the Rock was the first
Speaker 1: year that was a D Nice beef he went over
Speaker 1: the squashing Wow, Yeah, who big El it was? I
Speaker 1: think he said a D nice beef. That's that was
Speaker 1: the d J D Nice beef. Really, I've never heard
Speaker 1: this you would like to talk about. I think I've
Speaker 1: seen this somewhere. Evidently he went over there try to
Speaker 1: squash it. He's a social worker. He was doing crazy
Speaker 1: don't go in the community. Yeah, he's still in the
Speaker 1: hood like that. But definitely big El definitely going going
Speaker 1: through soon. What was your favorite big El drinks? We
Speaker 1: had to pick one. I ain't gonna live I gotta
Speaker 1: pick him all. Like, I've never heard the rack bigger
Speaker 1: record I've never heard of I never excuse me, let
Speaker 1: me go deep it in that I've never heard of
Speaker 1: rap big eel verse like I've never heard of verse
Speaker 1: where he just you know. My favorite moment was I
Speaker 1: didn't even know he knew who I was, and I
Speaker 1: said this on the cam and for the other day
Speaker 1: he was doing. He was like yo, because there's like
Speaker 1: you fell back. It seemed like he wasn't rapping. He's
Speaker 1: like no, I wasn't inspired until Cam Nori and dear
Speaker 1: Mex and I was like this, he's a herald to me,
Speaker 1: Like I still be bugging out, like when a person
Speaker 1: like you know, shot with like what up? Norm like
Speaker 1: what you know? Like you know, because I'm just I
Speaker 1: downplayed myself. But that was my favorite moment. He had
Speaker 1: rhymed right before that, and just the fact that he
Speaker 1: had recognized me, because I don't think he understood how
Speaker 1: much I admired him, know what I mean? So like
Speaker 1: I never expect the person I'm a fair enough to
Speaker 1: be a fan of me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't take away, it doesn't take it away,
Speaker 1: like like if I finally you're not a fan of
Speaker 1: like aigh school. You know, I still respect you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Like, um, all right, now, let me
Speaker 1: switch the subject a little bit. Right. One of my
Speaker 1: favorite rappers of all time is this guy named Granddaddy
Speaker 1: at you, right, grand of you. That's one of my
Speaker 1: number ones, right, but I never wanted to sound like Granddad?
Speaker 1: Why are these why is everybody? Right now? You can
Speaker 1: say yo, A new kid could come out of his
Speaker 1: name could be Smoke Champ and he can say, yo,
Speaker 1: who's your favorite artists? I like future? And we could
Speaker 1: be like we know because we have ship. You're real quick.
Speaker 1: You just post some with Granddaddy at you? Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I do back to that. Okay, yeah, let me go
Speaker 1: back to that. But why is why is these guys
Speaker 1: actually sounding like the people to day admyering and things
Speaker 1: like that? What's going on with this culture? What do
Speaker 1: you think? I take the hip hop at some point,
Speaker 1: like every art form that because mainstream started being made
Speaker 1: on assembly line type of thing and to whereas they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: especially when the radio station started being owned by certain
Speaker 1: corporations in frost the country and you went from regional
Speaker 1: DJs and program directors having power to the point where
Speaker 1: it's like, well, you got a problem to the playlist
Speaker 1: handed down. So yeah, it's just it just becomes it
Speaker 1: just becomes a consistency who had who makes the most whoppers? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think that so. So kids who grew up
Speaker 1: listening to music like that, We grew up in the
Speaker 1: era where we heard different influences or or you can't
Speaker 1: or like if you if you somebody traveled, you went
Speaker 1: from New York to Miami, it's a whole different sound.
Speaker 1: And so you were able to remember when like Uncle
Speaker 1: Luke used to come to New York. It was a party,
Speaker 1: used to hang out with Red Alert and Funk Flex
Speaker 1: and all them, and it was a whole it was
Speaker 1: like Uncle Lukes intown, We're gonna do this Miami thing.
Speaker 1: But it's like definitely a different thing. Um. And I
Speaker 1: think the culture is missing sort of that respect for
Speaker 1: the for different what I will say, indigenous sounds. Um.
Speaker 1: And I think that, Um, that's that's the whole problem.
Speaker 1: So kids who rolling up these days, just like how
Speaker 1: we grew up. We grew up wanting to be successful
Speaker 1: and we looked at our favorite artists and that's how
Speaker 1: you do it. Okay, it'd be different to be creative.
Speaker 1: That was that was success is you just copy the
Speaker 1: next nigga. They look at that, they say, Okay, that's working.
Speaker 1: There was There was ever when I when I came
Speaker 1: into business where this mad fake drink chaps out there
Speaker 1: up successful. When I remember when I came in for me,
Speaker 1: that's who I was ruining it with. What I noticed
Speaker 1: the shift was people stopped wanting to be dope m
Speaker 1: c s and dope DJs. Puff was killing it. People
Speaker 1: stopped wanting to be dope em you're run into him
Speaker 1: love hip hop and what you do you DJ is
Speaker 1: and now he's a No, I'm a CEO, I'm an executive.
Speaker 1: People wanted people wanted to be record executive and industry people,
Speaker 1: and that was different from me, Like I never wanted
Speaker 1: to be a record industry person. But now that's a
Speaker 1: thing that somebody wants to be. I want to be
Speaker 1: a mogul. I want to be They're not wrong with that,
Speaker 1: you know, but it just that's shifted. And so now
Speaker 1: kids they see what's going on. They just want to
Speaker 1: be like this certain artist, and and why why don't
Speaker 1: they why why don't they want to be like that?
Speaker 1: That's obviously a path to success. They're not. They don't
Speaker 1: get the real though. They don't know that that's a
Speaker 1: once in a lifetime thing. They don't know that one
Speaker 1: out of a million make it. They don't know that,
Speaker 1: so it becomes copies. Shout out to legend Jerobe would
Speaker 1: just be now, Diamond D, has there ever been a
Speaker 1: time you know, you come from the no com commercial era,
Speaker 1: like y'all motherfucker's just making it was right to be
Speaker 1: on the radio? I mean remember this, soio, have ever
Speaker 1: been a time a record label that came to you
Speaker 1: and said, yo, I want to cross over a record
Speaker 1: and if so, did you ever do it? Uh? Probably
Speaker 1: closest I came to that was the Black Panther sound
Speaker 1: like that song freedom have all all the top female
Speaker 1: artist singing on it. Oh, I want to see if
Speaker 1: you win commercial. I mean not mean I would. It's
Speaker 1: in business, you know what I mean. You don't want
Speaker 1: to pleasure. You don't if you produce, so you don't
Speaker 1: want to be pitching holding to one thing right yourself
Speaker 1: yourself with this service, you know how like they say
Speaker 1: it is a premiere sound or do you feel like
Speaker 1: Diamond D has a sound. It's a certain sound of diamond.
Speaker 1: Someone say I do, but I know, I guess instances.
Speaker 1: I feel like to the Dompie's albums, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a it's fluid, but every joint is different. I
Speaker 1: gotta say though I can't. I can't pick a diamond
Speaker 1: dbat so you can't listen to say that you can't know.
Speaker 1: I mean if you tell me diamond made and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: that makes sense. But even with this Gotham album, there's
Speaker 1: so many different textures of sounds, of flavors that I'm
Speaker 1: not like, It's not like I hear a beat and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's definitely a diamond. I don't and
Speaker 1: like Permiere like when you're here Forrell, but it's not
Speaker 1: it's not bad, that's not it's also it don't happen
Speaker 1: to sit at your sound too. It's also because like
Speaker 1: it's not ruining it because everybody has this run when
Speaker 1: you're a produce a where it's like now a producer
Speaker 1: might be able to do it, like Premiere, you could
Speaker 1: you could answer this question better, Premiere, Pete Rock or
Speaker 1: somebody might say they'd be like, that's a diamond. DP
Speaker 1: maybe they here might be trained, but I can't do
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They might know the sounds
Speaker 1: usually they might even maybe they know the snare you use.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's not look crazy that Jerue just
Speaker 1: came here and did not just say I just watched
Speaker 1: a documentary. That's just crazy. It just suck up. I
Speaker 1: just run up that no idea he was coming down.
Speaker 1: I just routed it up. I just can't. We gonna
Speaker 1: bring you in bro as well. But oh yeah, quick
Speaker 1: time you're ready, all right, so this we're gonna do
Speaker 1: this real quickly, gonna bring you rob. What do you
Speaker 1: do because quick time, quick answers he wants. It's an
Speaker 1: a n B answer. But if you want to say both,
Speaker 1: it's cool. You just gotta take a shot. If you
Speaker 1: say both, you gotta take a shot. If you want
Speaker 1: to be political, you gotta take the shot. You gotta
Speaker 1: take the shot. You want to be political, you gotta
Speaker 1: take the shot. All right, all right, you ready, first year,
Speaker 1: But it's saying jay z or nay jay z. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm taking a shot. Take a good I like this.
Speaker 1: Oh listen, take that and then um just fill yourself
Speaker 1: up again, because I just know you know what you're
Speaker 1: doing that you don't gotta make it a pretty shot
Speaker 1: if you think you know me. I think so, I
Speaker 1: think so that I think it mightn't know. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if a diamond going with it, but not ether
Speaker 1: was better. Okay, okay, I respect that, no doubt can Okay, ready,
Speaker 1: I'm starting with you. I'm starting with Big all big fun.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a shot with you. I got from
Speaker 1: my game face this and I think I don't think
Speaker 1: hold on the next time yet, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 1: big big one. I would he had the look taking
Speaker 1: a shot. Just take the shot, man. It's something wrong
Speaker 1: with the big puns rhymes to me, his his rhyme
Speaker 1: schemes a little more intricate. Doesn't mean that he was
Speaker 1: better or not, but his wrong just you know, a
Speaker 1: little more intricate in my opinion, and Big at that
Speaker 1: at that time. Okay, I mean, you know they both giants.
Speaker 1: But that's my answer. I don't know what the answer me,
Speaker 1: I would say, Big, alright, cool, I'm taking the diamond
Speaker 1: keeps wrong instruction, all right, I'm taking the right keeping.
Speaker 1: I'm about to walk out here funked up and miss
Speaker 1: my kid. And I can did last time. I don't
Speaker 1: do that. You're gonna take your shot. I'm starting with you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start have to answer these questions in terms
Speaker 1: of what they only in one category, in terms of
Speaker 1: just production, just straight production, straight production, premiere. Okay, that's good.
Speaker 1: I come here. Okay, let me get that later. Most
Speaker 1: death or common? Who are you asking that to both
Speaker 1: of your niggers in terms of what acting skill? What
Speaker 1: you're talking about skill in terms of acting skill? M
Speaker 1: m C. That was your comment is an MC motherfucker
Speaker 1: of course, so it's most deaf. I watched that motherfucker him.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a good most on the Dave Chappelle
Speaker 1: riding through Brooklyn, I thought I think it was Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: That's a good push. Well, so listen, you gotta be careful.
Speaker 1: That's a good pair. But they took a different I'm
Speaker 1: gonna teach you how to answer and still be politically corrected.
Speaker 1: I needed I needed here to answer, and if you
Speaker 1: let's me, I'm satisfied. I would take a shot for you.
Speaker 1: But if not, you gotta do this shot. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep an answer. Okay, let's go. I'm gonna pick
Speaker 1: most deaf. You shoot up and that's all I gotta see. Cutkay,
Speaker 1: I can see that, all right, this is gonna be crazy.
Speaker 1: Look j Roby doesn't even know he was here. Midnight
Speaker 1: Marauders or low end Theory. J gotta leading room. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: because we're having a real deep Phipps. In terms of
Speaker 1: what's problem, it's quick one this time. It doesn't have
Speaker 1: much deep. I really want Jeros answer after. We're gonna
Speaker 1: get his after. We don't want him to funk up
Speaker 1: your opinion, so we want to hear yours first. Remember,
Speaker 1: if you go both, I'll drink what you I'm going
Speaker 1: to say Midnight Marauder as a producer, Midnight Mark definitely
Speaker 1: the just heard the progression in the production. That was hard.
Speaker 1: That was hard, That was hard. Turn came, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take a flash the emergence to fight door emergent.
Speaker 1: But it's like Godfather and Godfather too. There is no
Speaker 1: Midnight Marauders without lowing theory and without people. Okay, Miami
Speaker 1: or l A, either one of you. Miami, that's easier.
Speaker 1: It was about to say, it's a lot of Miami. Mother.
Speaker 1: I mean that I didn't even talk about that. Also
Speaker 1: that they both said, Miami, now this one right here
Speaker 1: up in the air, independent or major independent Independent, you're
Speaker 1: losing these man, we have this independent verse major debate.
Speaker 1: I'm and not talking independent. Tell me why you made
Speaker 1: you guy? Because I'm lazy to a certain extent. That's
Speaker 1: sometimes you just need a good partner to handle the business.
Speaker 1: You can just get that. Yeah, you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: I just I love it. But let's get out a
Speaker 1: quick time of slim and we'll come back. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: not it's not gonna be good for you. Bow or
Speaker 1: large pro. Oh man, to take the shot, take the shot.
Speaker 1: You take a shot, Take a shot. Shot. I think
Speaker 1: you're taking a shot too, like you're taking this shot.
Speaker 1: That's how I'm going with large prom. Okay, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: going large Pro. Not because all respect due to the great,
Speaker 1: the great, legendary, legendary, but for me personally, you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes you have a personal relationship with our large Large
Speaker 1: Professor did for me personally with that breaking Adam's album,
Speaker 1: I was, I was living with that album. I was.
Speaker 1: It was first like he made it for you. It
Speaker 1: was a personal Okay, I respect that you shouldn't take
Speaker 1: a shot for that, all right, Actor Brooklyn, Little Kimra,
Speaker 1: Foxy Brown, somebody that it was just women power, remember
Speaker 1: women powers. That this is the quiller. I'll take this here.
Speaker 1: I'm interested to hear what you're gonna say, Little Kima,
Speaker 1: Foxy Brown, another shot because that's your old shot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm taking this game. I'm playing this game with my
Speaker 1: friends just a little bit. I like Foxy a little more. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll expect that who four or five King or show bars.
Speaker 1: You're asking me, Yeah, you're asking you. Yeah, I'm going
Speaker 1: with show just because of that Godfather now jam made earlier. Okay,
Speaker 1: one can't come without the other. Right, where we going?
Speaker 1: Diamond drinking whiskey? Right because they both they both made
Speaker 1: joints that only day could have been. I can't really
Speaker 1: answer that. If my boy Brian all right, um, all right,
Speaker 1: I think this is this wass it fairly long? It's
Speaker 1: only three three more questions? Okay, this one should really
Speaker 1: be easy for both of y'all. Stretching Bobby though verse
Speaker 1: the Wake Up Show. I'm gonna stretching Bob because as
Speaker 1: a personal experience, I'm going to stress the ball too.
Speaker 1: Sorrys Wade sorry, we just we just were just looking
Speaker 1: up that with Swade. You're gonna take your shot, nobody
Speaker 1: asked you. Okay, Cardi br Nicki Minaj, Nikki that was
Speaker 1: fast taking a shot because he remember women improvement. Who
Speaker 1: does that have to do with this answer? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm taking a shot. They're Nicki minajs or Cardi B.
Speaker 1: In terms of what yo's artiste? Cardis the only lawyers
Speaker 1: during quick time of seeing nobody you can pass me
Speaker 1: that light of time. What do we talking about here?
Speaker 1: In terms of what? In terms of whatever you wanted
Speaker 1: to be an overall artist? Overall see drawn curveballs over here?
Speaker 1: He said ten minutes, overall artists. I reserved the right
Speaker 1: to change my answer. I reserved the right to change
Speaker 1: my answer in ten years. Okay, wait what I never
Speaker 1: heard this ten years? We're not doing dreat chance we're
Speaker 1: gonna come back to change my answer ten years. Okay,
Speaker 1: But as of now, yes, as incredible as Cardi B is,
Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj has done some ship. So I'm going with Nicki. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, that took a long time. All right, this
Speaker 1: would be fit this might you might be taking a
Speaker 1: shot to this, Oh, oh, taking shots all three ah,
Speaker 1: dip set or the locks locks locks. Really, that was
Speaker 1: very easy. I didn't think. I didn't think you guys
Speaker 1: go listen the question to change the game. But for
Speaker 1: me personally, that's what it is. Now we get into
Speaker 1: the of course, it's about how you personally feel, how
Speaker 1: something exactly exactly. I respect that. Okay, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: a shot right now. I'm going with. I'm going with,
Speaker 1: I'm going to red alert. I'm going I'm going with
Speaker 1: because because I should be the analogy as well. I'm
Speaker 1: going to red alert because I got into hip hop
Speaker 1: like eighty five, eight, six, eighty seven, and around the
Speaker 1: time when I got into hip hop, I wasn't in
Speaker 1: the streets as a little kid. My hip hop experience
Speaker 1: came from listening to the Red Alert, Kissing Fami and
Speaker 1: Jeff Fox, the Rocks Box and all that type of ship.
Speaker 1: Taking your shot, taking your shot, Dimond just from the
Speaker 1: last job. But I got my answer is rather alert
Speaker 1: because Lert influence kick agree. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's the Godfather thing. And I'm to tell y'all my
Speaker 1: answers should be ready alert too. I had so much
Speaker 1: more experience, like it was me going to Kick Apris
Speaker 1: parties that made me say, this might be the baddest
Speaker 1: DJ to be. His name is Not to be Slandered,
Speaker 1: and Kick Capri and his production on the Big Ail
Speaker 1: Ship and Certain Ship He's done for the Culture Joint
Speaker 1: produced from Death Comedy Jam and just like Kick Capri
Speaker 1: and and even just now I posted, I reposted some
Speaker 1: ship Kicker PrePost on Instagram about about work, making sure
Speaker 1: you working people really appreciate you, and I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: just just so everybody knows, I need to work with Kickapri,
Speaker 1: I said. Kick Capri is an absolute legend. He's one
Speaker 1: of my favorite human beings. He'd probably he's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite human beings. Yeah, I just see, I see.
Speaker 1: I was like I was in a I think I
Speaker 1: was in DC one day with him, the next day
Speaker 1: in North Line, the next day someone else, and he
Speaker 1: would equally walk the party with different sets, like he
Speaker 1: wouldn't repeat his sets. And that was the first time
Speaker 1: I had organic. He was playing alert. Can't do what
Speaker 1: Kicker pre do right? The Kick Apre It's not read
Speaker 1: alert right, Okay, this is the last one. It's pretty
Speaker 1: much eighties or the nineties. That's a fucking good question.
Speaker 1: I think it is in terms of what error ten
Speaker 1: years that ten years again, but ten years it up
Speaker 1: the ten because if you shift the ten between eighty
Speaker 1: five and ninety five, I'm going with the eighties going empty,
Speaker 1: hammer and nigger. That's the one I know, EMC hammer
Speaker 1: just not define it? Are you nothing looking back? When
Speaker 1: I say, in terms of what are we talking about
Speaker 1: specifically hip hop? Would you like the error are you
Speaker 1: talking about? Because they might have a change to the nineties. Okay, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: why because the eighties we said eighties versus nineties in
Speaker 1: terms of error. In terms of error, the eighties is superior,
Speaker 1: but the eighties end of eighties hip hop set up
Speaker 1: the nineties hip hop. Nineties hip hop is. It's great,
Speaker 1: but up, but it terms of hip hop nineties hip hop.
Speaker 1: If you go to any party on the planet, on
Speaker 1: any or any party on the planet right now, righting,
Speaker 1: and you play any type of music, if the DJ
Speaker 1: decide that he want to do fifty and twenty minutes
Speaker 1: of just nineties hip hops, right that's going to be
Speaker 1: the best part of the party. I don't think about
Speaker 1: like that. If he played nothing the DJ doing nothing
Speaker 1: nothing in two thousand? What what? What? What if you
Speaker 1: go on you doing a scenario, If you're doing a scenario,
Speaker 1: do a house of pain drip around? You don't have
Speaker 1: some page up around in a scenario and any and
Speaker 1: then biggy no money, more money, more problems and how
Speaker 1: could just kill a man? And if if you're going
Speaker 1: to a public enemy set, if you do fight to power,
Speaker 1: what the what do we powers? Eighties? Eighties? That's all
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you. It's as a producer, I
Speaker 1: would say nineties because the late eighties and when the
Speaker 1: sample of becomes in effect and hip hop got away
Speaker 1: from the live instrumentation of the early to mid ager
Speaker 1: without saying it was more of getting back to the essence,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that would be my answer.
Speaker 1: Nine eight What is the best year of hip hop
Speaker 1: of all time? What Google told you that I don't
Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no no no
Speaker 1: is the best year is when everything changed? And I Google.
Speaker 1: I did Google Google because I wanted to see a
Speaker 1: public takes the nation of millions holders back. Great adventures
Speaker 1: like Rick absolutely trade out of Compton, strictly business E. P. M. D.
Speaker 1: Long lived to Kynes, following the leader by Enemies necessary
Speaker 1: straight out to jungle. He's a DJ on the rapper
Speaker 1: critical beat down, tougher than leather Light is a rock easy,
Speaker 1: doesn't going off. He's Marquis. The best is going off
Speaker 1: in full gear stet to Sonica talking all that jazz
Speaker 1: in control Volume one, Symphony for Molly Maul act the
Speaker 1: fool King Tea, But listen tower iced tea, a salt
Speaker 1: with a deadly pepper. Alright, so that's night it takes
Speaker 1: to rob Base one of the best records of all More,
Speaker 1: can I say audio to the world's greatest entertainer, Doggy Fresh,
Speaker 1: all that in one year, I need you to google
Speaker 1: night to night. I'm gonna tell you the next year
Speaker 1: to come after that. I've done my resent next year,
Speaker 1: your next next year that got as many dope albums
Speaker 1: as that. It's ninety six six, all right, who's in
Speaker 1: ninety six? And I feel like I didn't come out
Speaker 1: to ninety eight. I was told that was my persont year.
Speaker 1: I told you to google next because that's a year
Speaker 1: my year. Really quick, before you say those everything mentioned
Speaker 1: in eight eight set up the nineties. A lot of
Speaker 1: all that music influenced everything that happened in the early nineties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what you read this is what you use, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: ninety six is I might be wrong? Yeah alright, let
Speaker 1: me start tupac all eyes on me. The Foojis to
Speaker 1: score fire That right, Maskills from Where wasn't the commercial
Speaker 1: wasn't commercial. That's a that's that's a classic album. That's
Speaker 1: a class out. We have Maskills, Conscious Daughters, Gamers, Hammad Collage,
Speaker 1: Classic Smooth, The Hustler, Once Uplaic, Okay, Classics, Buster Robs,
Speaker 1: the Coming Classics, that's right, BC Boys to End Sound
Speaker 1: from Way Out, Ghetto Boys, The Resurrection, Massive, p ice
Speaker 1: Cream Man. Uh, I might be wrong about ninety six. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nine six they're also six is high Classic NASA was
Speaker 1: written X Wild Cowboys, Problems in Life, Trick Requests Classic
Speaker 1: eight Aliens Classic Ah No, it's not the say Rose
Speaker 1: the same. Taking a break without taking a break. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take a p p at bringing away. We don't
Speaker 1: take a break. We didn't bring I don't want to
Speaker 1: take a break down. You don't use the bathroom if
Speaker 1: you want. I'm good, okay, yeah, I'm cool right now?
Speaker 1: So what okay? So ninety eight. It's a year the
Speaker 1: Black Star came out. Okay, September. In September ninety eight,
Speaker 1: five hip Hop Classics dropped it September, the same day
Speaker 1: that the Black Star album dropped? Is that is that not?
Speaker 1: Nine eleven? No? Okay, the same day to the Blacks,
Speaker 1: the album dropped, well, read the whole year. But I'm
Speaker 1: a Black Star dropped ninety eight Okay, September Septem a
Speaker 1: quemini four hundred degrees, juvenile capital, punishment, big pun the
Speaker 1: Miseducation of Lauren Hill Foundation by brand Newbian Beach, Romes
Speaker 1: in Life by Tryck requests, moment of Truth again started
Speaker 1: ninety eight might be the year not beat, Ribs of Life,
Speaker 1: the love movement, which I don't know why I keep
Speaker 1: calling it. Okay, okay, this is this one's about to
Speaker 1: seal the deal, about the seal the deal, money power, respect,
Speaker 1: by the locks. We could go, we could go a
Speaker 1: head of what I'm about to see it. I'm about
Speaker 1: to see e l E By bust the ROMs can
Speaker 1: I bus by Cannabis. Wow, Okay, still standing by the
Speaker 1: good emm ah. This is a slept on the album
Speaker 1: Soul Survivor by p Rock. Okay, I already mentioned member Survivor.
Speaker 1: Do ye remember I said brand new Rear Foundation that
Speaker 1: came out that Hello Nasty by the Beastie Boys. That's
Speaker 1: a fucking good album. Year, Hello Nasty. You know what?
Speaker 1: Nori Than is my new ninety six. Yeah, was a
Speaker 1: good year. That's my favorite year. Flesh Blood of My
Speaker 1: Blood by DMX, Yeah, yeah, that's my year, my best year.
Speaker 1: This this is an incredible album. Hel Ni Yo by
Speaker 1: the Death Squad. That Joe Don Carters on the album too,
Speaker 1: all right, and o R popped up r Bynory. Okay,
Speaker 1: but here's the album that I'm on that niggers don't
Speaker 1: even know. I'm not. I'm not on this, Okay, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not on this album. I'm on a remix Sons
Speaker 1: of Men. The last should be first and the first
Speaker 1: should be last. Shout to Heaven Raised. I'm on a remix.
Speaker 1: I thought I was on album Sons of Man's Killer
Speaker 1: priest Um sixty Second Assassin. DMX is darker to tell
Speaker 1: us he was the first artist in history to have
Speaker 1: platinum twice in one year. I was there, I was there,
Speaker 1: I was there, I was right right. This is the
Speaker 1: year I was doing Bobby Digital and Bobby did you
Speaker 1: I want to let you keep going. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you how to examined. Forty days, forty nights. That's what
Speaker 1: you see is what you get? YEA classic video First
Speaker 1: Family for Life, the Cool Steal, this album classic rest
Speaker 1: in Peace, the DJ right she passed away, I War
Speaker 1: in Peace Fine one and two? I want that too?
Speaker 1: You want that? That's what I was this East Coast
Speaker 1: Niggas which one? What was that was? Fine? Oh? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was question connection ice Cube. I think we'll be remix, right,
Speaker 1: we'll be corrupt. But on the remix, me and Most
Speaker 1: Deaf used to do Black Star shows in the error,
Speaker 1: and we used to perform a version of that song,
Speaker 1: and we used to be we'll be clubbing Little Baby Seals,
Speaker 1: so we can make coach. We'll be clubbing. Push it
Speaker 1: Wait push. I was like, wait, oh, puh, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: It was that I'm still here. That's a great joint.
Speaker 1: Spike Lee. He got Game ninety one, ice Cube, Record
Speaker 1: of nine Generation Effects, a c alone, A book of
Speaker 1: Human Language. This is actually a very good album, very
Speaker 1: good album. Black Eyed Peas Behind the front. What that
Speaker 1: was before Fergie when Yeah, that was the underground black
Speaker 1: Look at Tyler Live and getting his hip hop on
Speaker 1: you hip hop, Let's do it look as seen the
Speaker 1: shadiest buster here you Dad's dealing your revenge retaliation Lyricist
Speaker 1: Lounge bust albums that year the Lyricist Lounge did you
Speaker 1: buster twice? Okay? It was just okay, goddamn it. Anybody
Speaker 1: want to move? I know that's a camera and Confessions
Speaker 1: of Fire. That's what the nig I'm on that too, right,
Speaker 1: that's what you listen David, You year period like of
Speaker 1: my life. The only thing is better about it my
Speaker 1: father died in the middle of my hype. I don't
Speaker 1: even talk about. Okay, let's Big Duty, Kane drop Veteran's Day,
Speaker 1: which is an underrated album. Veterans Day styles are beyond
Speaker 1: two thousand fold method man to couch, jous ships, ship, corruption, corrupt, Classic,
Speaker 1: Shut Them Down, Classic, um Snoop Dogg. The game is
Speaker 1: to be sold, not to be told. With no limit.
Speaker 1: That's the no limit. That's a classic, too easy. Pieces
Speaker 1: of a Man. That's the best I learned on Tree
Speaker 1: Champs today. Can mess with it depends it's great. You
Speaker 1: know who we should you know what? You know, it's
Speaker 1: actually an ill versus Listen, listen, listen, because I was
Speaker 1: only I love Versus and I'm actually a little bit
Speaker 1: a part of it. But the only thing that I
Speaker 1: didn't like a little bit part of it, you know what.
Speaker 1: But like I didn't like the D'Angelo bringing up people
Speaker 1: was D'Angelo versus himself. If we're gonna go there, why
Speaker 1: don't we do something like that with eight versus nine
Speaker 1: and have some of them lostical it just by the way,
Speaker 1: who's killing Harold on there? And I was done, It
Speaker 1: was done, but it was just weird because it was
Speaker 1: from versus. Yeah, magic, you do verse and you have
Speaker 1: these artists, you get as much artists from both eras
Speaker 1: that's still alive, that's still That's the beautiful list thing
Speaker 1: about coming to America They got all the same actors
Speaker 1: and you get the people perform their records. I think
Speaker 1: that would be so wait wait, wait, are you saying
Speaker 1: that you're a fan of coming to America? Coming to
Speaker 1: America too? You go and grab this conversation. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get into it. I think it was a well made movie.
Speaker 1: Fan I don't understand? What what? What? What's that not
Speaker 1: to like about it? Word? You know what? I'm about
Speaker 1: to blow your minds. You hated it? I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: It's not better because I was a good movie. Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of movies. I know that people had
Speaker 1: a lot to say about it, but it's very hard
Speaker 1: to make a sequel and the classic. The running theme
Speaker 1: of tonight is Godfather versus Godfather too. I brought this
Speaker 1: up several times. We'll call it, we'll title the episode
Speaker 1: times right. I enjoyed it because it was good to
Speaker 1: see my O g s and my heroes having fun.
Speaker 1: Was it as good as Coming to America? Absolutely not?
Speaker 1: But did I expect it to do it? In his
Speaker 1: own understand it was? It was? It was good. We
Speaker 1: gotta support. I didn't like the Fashion Nova part and
Speaker 1: I didn't like the part with Homeboys start Fashion was like,
Speaker 1: come on, it turned into Hamilton and look at it.
Speaker 1: That's the best part. But the reason why they had
Speaker 1: Fashion Nova and Pepsi and Puma and all the other
Speaker 1: brands because when you make a movie, you get paid
Speaker 1: for the movie. Do you get paid for you know?
Speaker 1: But here's the thing they should have the only thing
Speaker 1: I would say creatively. The reason why I coming to
Speaker 1: America the first one was dope is because it's a
Speaker 1: fish out of water story. It's a fictional African character
Speaker 1: coming to New York City, queens and living. This new
Speaker 1: movie took place into Munda, right if they take place
Speaker 1: in the bud Fay Queens too, that was fake me.
Speaker 1: I was offended, but they said it was Hurst, that
Speaker 1: a new way that else in the in the world.
Speaker 1: Hurst is the kid in places from Listen Man. When
Speaker 1: that when they put the you know, you know I'm rewinding,
Speaker 1: I'm looking, I'm going to see they said, I'm Hurst,
Speaker 1: New York. I was like, sut um, they're getting married.
Speaker 1: You know, if you look at this, it real good.
Speaker 1: It says Elmer's And I'm just so because I'm ten
Speaker 1: minutes away from Elmhurst, so I know everything to that.
Speaker 1: But that's me personally. That's me personally. The fact that
Speaker 1: and they put out Girl Queen's is very much mentioned.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not, I'm not charge. Can we get
Speaker 1: a drink? Champs clap for what's his name? Yeah? Yo um,
Speaker 1: And I got to give it up one million percent.
Speaker 1: I've ever met her. I actually just see her comedies
Speaker 1: before and I see her stand up prior to me
Speaker 1: watching it. But Leslie listened to me as a person
Speaker 1: who my whole life, I dedicate ghetto queens woman. She
Speaker 1: hit it on the news. She hit it on the news.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you queens queens, and she hit it on
Speaker 1: the she said, I hate queen. I'm sorry. I slap
Speaker 1: at your man. That's exactly one day. One day when
Speaker 1: I'm an old man. One day, when I'm an old man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell the world about my DM conversations with Leslie. Leslie,
Speaker 1: let your damn she she I slid in hers. Oh
Speaker 1: some comedy ship. I'm like everybody, everybody's why you want
Speaker 1: to wait two years? What we just say? Who the private?
Speaker 1: Dont toromy know me? For real? Everybody? Everybody? Single man? Yeah,
Speaker 1: not you, and I know that you're sing single man
Speaker 1: talking as far when is this coming out? You never
Speaker 1: I've never my life, he said, to be at home
Speaker 1: coming out? What I never heard of? You're sucking me up.
Speaker 1: I always got something to say. If I don't even
Speaker 1: know what to say, don't word. I don't know what
Speaker 1: what the kind of ship was that that was the
Speaker 1: fifth sha. I know, pimp. When I see it's like,
Speaker 1: what was this coming out? I holy sh it, I
Speaker 1: don't even know what a bottle that I don't know. Uh,
Speaker 1: you diamonded, you don't have pimple with you're married? Up,
Speaker 1: I'm not married. You're not married. Let's make your noise
Speaker 1: when you're trying to be loyal. This is the last question. Um,
Speaker 1: like that, Like Biggie's words, I never thought that hip
Speaker 1: hop would take it this far. The level of the
Speaker 1: hip hop is now, Um, although we compromise with the music.
Speaker 1: Sometimes the music is not up to Paul. But the
Speaker 1: level of business that I'm seeing being done, that I'm
Speaker 1: seeing being presented is on another level at this point,
Speaker 1: like everybody is being able to eat, these people being
Speaker 1: able to reach their family with switching them there with
Speaker 1: versus very very very when they gave people equity for
Speaker 1: you know, putting their their likeness and their image on
Speaker 1: the thing, because most of these guys don't even own
Speaker 1: the actual records that they're playing, so they really wasn't
Speaker 1: benefiting you. Was doing versus just to do versus And
Speaker 1: for Swiss and Timberling to say, you know what I
Speaker 1: know some of y'all don't own your masses. So what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do is we donna give your stake in
Speaker 1: the actual company where hip hop is. I want to
Speaker 1: just um, you know, we are the big words. I
Speaker 1: want to start with you because you came at the end.
Speaker 1: Did you ever think that hip hop would take it
Speaker 1: this far? Not at all? M In fact, that's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons why I um, I started taking color
Speaker 1: the arts. You know what I'm saying, That's right, that's why.
Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons. That's right. But it's cool
Speaker 1: to see it now because we're treated as it is,
Speaker 1: like we're a culture, you know what I'm saying. Now,
Speaker 1: it's being treated as a culture now there's companies targeting
Speaker 1: our culture like they target whites and blacks, and you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And that's a cool thing to
Speaker 1: see because they thought we were just some some kids
Speaker 1: making noise. Yeah, fact, they didn't understand the network and
Speaker 1: the grammar group in the community we were building, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So that's that's really dope to
Speaker 1: see that part of it. Right, So so utah, I lived.
Speaker 1: Did you ever think hip hop? Do you see you
Speaker 1: see Jay Z just sold his company this to Moat.
Speaker 1: Now me growing up was the richest ship you can drink.
Speaker 1: For it to be for them to recognize this company
Speaker 1: as a five million dollars person and then to buy
Speaker 1: in but I think at forty nine percent, which which
Speaker 1: means that he's still is the majority owner. Like that's
Speaker 1: just the amazing thing to this. This is we all
Speaker 1: grew up drinking mo and for us for them to
Speaker 1: be a part of this company that he did on
Speaker 1: his own, this is big. Like you ever thought the
Speaker 1: hip hop god this farm? No, I didn't, um, but
Speaker 1: I attribute that to how we grew up. We had limitations.
Speaker 1: We had like Blonde just put on it as far
Speaker 1: as what we could imagine, Like we all just got
Speaker 1: Everybody in this room got into it because you want
Speaker 1: somebody and me me personally, it was like you want
Speaker 1: some I just think he was nice. And if you
Speaker 1: read jay z book he talked about that, he talked
Speaker 1: about he said, it's all comes down to the rhom.
Speaker 1: Like everything I gain attributed to like I just want
Speaker 1: to write the best raps and everything and if like,
Speaker 1: if you appreciate this culture, you put your all into it,
Speaker 1: things like this will happen. We we come from situations
Speaker 1: where we made to feel like something's wrong with us
Speaker 1: if we aspire outside of what the hood supposedly represent.
Speaker 1: And this is why jay Z is such an important
Speaker 1: artist and human being. It's because he break the barriers constantly,
Speaker 1: and he involved all of us in it. He makes
Speaker 1: sure that all of us, at least two people where
Speaker 1: he comes from. He makes sure all of us, uh
Speaker 1: see a part of it, in a piece of it,
Speaker 1: even whether whether or not you're in business with him,
Speaker 1: through the way he's making his moves. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying and what I was saying earlier about conscious artists.
Speaker 1: I can't grow no hair now. Back when I was
Speaker 1: a teenager. When I was a teenager, I had dreads.
Speaker 1: My dreads looked like John uh Michelle Bascott's hope looking
Speaker 1: like I've seen Kodak Black and shout out to Kodak
Speaker 1: Black because he's a Florida artist. I've seen him saying
Speaker 1: that jay Z was copying his hairstyle. That's that's some
Speaker 1: young boys ship. He just never seen that. Scott. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because jay Z is copying Baskett. I love I love
Speaker 1: how you pronouncing it right. Because I can't. I got
Speaker 1: Fred for real, I'm sure beyond you know. But even
Speaker 1: though all the time, even if Kodak Black is a
Speaker 1: little misguided with his with his historical references as far
Speaker 1: as coming here, the fact that he grew his hair
Speaker 1: out like that is revolutionary. The fact that Scott did
Speaker 1: that is revolutionary. The fact that Jay's when I see
Speaker 1: j Z, I'm like, That's how my hair looked when
Speaker 1: I was in high school, know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: it's like it all comes from circles. Like I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: that's what we're supposed to be. So we're supposed to
Speaker 1: be free. We're supposed to be embracing our our our
Speaker 1: blackness or whatever you are. And it was like, we're
Speaker 1: supposed to embrace it and be free. And um, I
Speaker 1: just love the freedom and the fact that his freedom
Speaker 1: has led to him being and a Stuti businessman. We
Speaker 1: can now we could do this business, he could do
Speaker 1: this type of business, and him and his wife and
Speaker 1: his family could do conscious art and still contribute to
Speaker 1: conscious causes and still win awards and all that. Beyonce
Speaker 1: the most winning this artists of all time and the
Speaker 1: Grammys or whatever. Um, how about you Diamond Nah to
Speaker 1: see the culture come from black and brown people having
Speaker 1: block parties, plugging the equipment up to the lamp post
Speaker 1: to something that jay Z just did d J D
Speaker 1: Nice in a Ford truck commercial. Not no way, sneakers,
Speaker 1: no way to test them out though, you know, to
Speaker 1: to the culture that we started. So yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you know what on that note list in this and say,
Speaker 1: you know what, God blessed hip hop. It's blessed everyone
Speaker 1: in this room to a certain extent. Um. Like I said, man,
Speaker 1: one of the keep watching this documentaries and I think
Speaker 1: that that's one of the most um slept on hip
Speaker 1: hop tool is the hip hop documentaries. Like we all.
Speaker 1: You know what I love about documentaries is it's like
Speaker 1: you know, you ever watched the HBO fights. You know,
Speaker 1: they make sure everybody has a story. You understand. I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: and that's what the documentaries is. And I'm excited to
Speaker 1: hear about this Black Star documentary. I'm excited to hear
Speaker 1: about you guys when when it's got them out one
Speaker 1: April's I'll try to put this out that we could
Speaker 1: which so we can help with the promotion. But overall man,
Speaker 1: thank you brothers for taking your time. I have to
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