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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments

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Speaker 1: from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment

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Speaker 1: last stravaganza. Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is

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Speaker 1: the Weekly Zeitgeist. The way we like to open up

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Speaker 1: is by asking our guests what is a myth? What's

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Speaker 1: something that people believe to be true that is not

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Speaker 1: actually true based on your experience? Josh and I'm very

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Speaker 1: excited for this one because I feel like you have

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Speaker 1: come across all the myths in your time as the

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Speaker 1: host of stuff You should know. We we've been known.

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Speaker 1: Chuck and I two have busted a myth or two

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Speaker 1: here there. Um. The one that I came up with

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Speaker 1: for today is the myth that ignoring people in public

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Speaker 1: is rude, like pretending you don't even see some buddy public, right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So so, you know, especially when people who may maybe

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Speaker 1: live outside of cities come into cities, one of the

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Speaker 1: things they always remark is, oh my gosh, everybody's so rude.

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Speaker 1: They just don't even make eye contact. And there's this guy,

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Speaker 1: this social scientist back in the sixties named Irvan Goffman,

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Speaker 1: and he studied this phenomenon and he concluded that actually

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Speaker 1: what was going on was this really intricate dance that

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Speaker 1: people who live in in cities have kind of developed

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Speaker 1: as a part of just being a productive member of society,

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Speaker 1: where you act like the other person's not there, and

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Speaker 1: what you're really doing is affording a certain measure of

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Speaker 1: privacy for yourself and for them in places where their

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Speaker 1: privacy is extremely scarce, which is why people who don't

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Speaker 1: live in cities come to the city and don't get

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Speaker 1: this because they have tons of privacy, so they like

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Speaker 1: to interact in public. People who live in like a

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Speaker 1: city where you're living on top of other people, you

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Speaker 1: don't have as much privacy, So you pretend that the

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Speaker 1: other person's out there. That's called civil inattention. It's actually

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Speaker 1: pretty interesting stuff. Yeah, there's also a practical aspect to

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Speaker 1: it too, right, because you can't if you acknowledged everybody

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Speaker 1: in the city, you would you would not be able

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Speaker 1: to get anything. It's like, uh, in New York, you

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Speaker 1: quickly learned that you have to look where you're going,

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Speaker 1: like about six feet in front of you at the

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Speaker 1: ground where you're going, and people just sort of into

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Speaker 1: it based on that where you're headed, and like that's

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Speaker 1: how you move through the city of New York. You

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Speaker 1: can't if you like try to look at people in

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Speaker 1: the face, You're just gonna get into all sorts of

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Speaker 1: awkward things and it's going to take you forever to

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Speaker 1: like walk down the city block. I guess it's true

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Speaker 1: because when I've gone to like traveled too smaller towns

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Speaker 1: sprawling cities. Like when I went to Eugene, Oregon the

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Speaker 1: first time visiting my friend who went to you a

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Speaker 1: bo shout out to Chris um I. I was at

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Speaker 1: a convenience store and I was wearing a Lakers had

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Speaker 1: and someone's like, hey, so the Lakers, huh, Like they're

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Speaker 1: they're a pretty good team. And I was so suspicious

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Speaker 1: of because in l A you don't talk to Anybody's like,

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Speaker 1: I thought he was trying to scam me because I

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Speaker 1: was like, Okay, what's the ask here? Yeah, man, they're

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Speaker 1: I was like, uh huh, and he's like, all right,

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Speaker 1: and I walked out from like such an asshole because

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Speaker 1: I had. I guess it's weird too. I wonder if

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Speaker 1: there is some like a phenomenon too about the defenses

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Speaker 1: just different that like, you know, when you're and you

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Speaker 1: because I definitely had that, or maybe that's my social

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Speaker 1: inattention coming into no. I think I think you're right,

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Speaker 1: you know, like when you're you have to be on

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Speaker 1: other people. I think part of what what Irvan Goffman

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Speaker 1: I guess I have cruel and unusual world syndrome. Like

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Speaker 1: I'm getting scammed a lot. Welcome to Hollywood. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you should dress up as like Batman or something. You

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Speaker 1: mean a lot of people there, Miles. I've been gone

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Speaker 1: and the first story you want to talk about is

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Speaker 1: that you think Donald Trump is actually making America great again.

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Speaker 1: I've had a change of part while you were gone.

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Speaker 1: We had some real interesting guests that didn't actually make

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Speaker 1: making America great because I'm just I guess you know,

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Speaker 1: this is not an original take, but just the groundswell

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Speaker 1: from the UH you know, the students in Florida to

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Speaker 1: the West Virginia teachers. You're starting to see that people

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Speaker 1: are really taking their power very seriously, and I want

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Speaker 1: to I just more want to bring it up in

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Speaker 1: the context of what the West Virginia teacher strikes. So

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Speaker 1: we talked about it last week how they were I

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Speaker 1: think just a week ago today when starro June was on,

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Speaker 1: she brought it up how the teachers in West Virginia

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Speaker 1: went on strike because they're asking for a five percent

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Speaker 1: the state legislature were playing hardball, and so they had

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Speaker 1: to go on strike. Last week, the governor and the

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Speaker 1: that said, Okay, let's well, we'll agree to this five percent. Now,

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Speaker 1: we just need the State House and States send it

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Speaker 1: to vote on it. The State House passed a five increase.

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Speaker 1: The States Senate, however, only passed a four percent increase.

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Speaker 1: So the teachers are like, nah, that we're going back

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Speaker 1: of the reasons why is that the states, like the

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Speaker 1: we can agree to five percent increase, didn't take into

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Speaker 1: you know, they're actually making a bad example to students

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Speaker 1: this is sort of the methodology that these state houses uses.

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Speaker 1: They give tax cuts away, and this applies to i'll governs.

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Speaker 1: They'll give tax cuts away or tax breaks two people,

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Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, you want teachers

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Speaker 1: it's a great thing to see now of all these

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Speaker 1: those states specifically prohibit public sector workers from going on

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Speaker 1: strike at all, so there's no strike pay. These people

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's one for Oklahoma yet, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: these teachers, they're they're losing money even trying to get

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Speaker 1: my education began in West Virginia public schools, actually Wheeling

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Speaker 1: It was great as far as I know I was.

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Speaker 1: And yes, not to mention, um, you're like, yeah, ms connors,

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Speaker 1: are you satisfied with your wages? I'll go back to

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Speaker 1: learning how to do did a lot of service. We

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Speaker 1: had a an epic run on CNN and MSNBC by

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Speaker 1: a gentleman named Sam Nundberg, who with whom I was

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Speaker 1: not familiar. I don't think anybody was. He really um,

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Speaker 1: you know, this was his debutante moment. Yeah, he came

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Speaker 1: clearly going through something. But this is also a dude

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Speaker 1: Trump for me, RAC's saying a lot. He liked the

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Speaker 1: N word a lot on Facebook. Very racist, cattle and

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Speaker 1: a very racist. He also claims to have created the

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Speaker 1: But yeah, he's like a so this guy, he's like

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Speaker 1: he is his like I'm his protege. So anyway, this

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Speaker 1: from Mexico Canada actually, so that's weird. But he's really

428
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Speaker 1: aiming in a China as well. Um, but he's China

429
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: supposedly uses uh Mexico and like the NAFTA deal as

430
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Speaker 1: a loophole to basically trade to US. Steal through those

431
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: dump it in New Mexico. And that's because of the

432
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Speaker 1: good rates student NAFTA they're able to write. And so

433
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: they're using this sort of weird, very weird loophole of

434
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Speaker 1: using the argument for national security as to why they

435
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 1: can just sort of go and unilaterally change these agreements

436
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: like for this like overly protectionist sort of stance we're taking.

437
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Speaker 1: Um and as if, like you know, this isn't really

438
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Speaker 1: a significant national security issue because like no one at

439
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Speaker 1: the State Department, a Department of Defense, or the Treasury,

440
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 1: none of them are like believe this is true because

441
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: they all say like, yeah, the domestic capacity is We're good,

442
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: Like there's no need for this, but they're using it

443
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 1: as a way to sort of circumvent uh, just properly negotiating.

444
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: And the problem is that it's basically going to kick off.

445
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: Oh so you're gonna put taxes on our ship, Well,

446
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: then now we're going to tax your ship. So you've

447
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: heard from other countries that like, okay, well then what

448
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: if we begin heavily taxing things that the US sports

449
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Speaker 1: like whiskey or motorcycles or yeah, um, and like when

450
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Speaker 1: you think about it, those would hit districts that are

451
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Speaker 1: pretty significant to the GOP, like Harley Davidson's or Paul

452
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: Ryan that's right in his neck of the woods. Kentucky

453
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: is a huge producer of whiskey. Yeah so, and Nancy

454
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: Pelosi would Levi's I think is headquartered up there in

455
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Speaker 1: the Bay. So there are a lot of people who

456
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: are kind of like, yo, yo, what are you doing,

457
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: because clearly many people have tried to reason with the

458
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 1: President saying like it's not just as easy as just saying, hey,

459
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Speaker 1: we're hitting them with these tariffs and everything is all good.

460
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: It's like this is all very interconnected. Like Gary Cohen

461
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: was trying to say, this can this can affect our

462
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Speaker 1: construction uh and other manufacturers because it's just not the

463
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Speaker 1: way to do it, and it's gonna put in jeopardy

464
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Speaker 1: your stock market streak that you're going on. And then

465
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Speaker 1: apparently there's this article in Axios where Trump kept accusing

466
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Speaker 1: him of being a global So it's because it's gotten

467
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: very weird because what you're starting to see two is

468
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: like with Rob Porter and Hope Picks, like a lot

469
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: of these people actually they look after him to make

470
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Speaker 1: sure he was doing the right thing and also keep

471
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Speaker 1: kind of crazy people away from him, like particularly Peter Navarro,

472
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Speaker 1: who is the director of the Trade Industrial Policy are

473
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Speaker 1: In the director of the White House National Trade Council,

474
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Speaker 1: and he's like a Bannonite type guy, like he comes

475
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Speaker 1: from that camp. He also wrote a book called Death

476
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Speaker 1: by China, Confronting the Dragon Um, and he's like the

477
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Speaker 1: kind of person that people like Kelly and Rob Porter

478
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Speaker 1: like they did not want to have near the President

479
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: because he would just start saying as crazy fucking conspiratorial

480
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 1: weird ship and get in his head. And there was

481
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Speaker 1: apparently like a huge argument in the Oval office about

482
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Speaker 1: this um where Kelly is still there but he appears

483
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: to be losing hope because he's speculating that God is

484
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: punishing him with this job. So it's just like what

485
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: the fuck. Yeah, So it was a bunch of fingerpointing

486
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Speaker 1: of like, you guys are globalist, Cox and the other

487
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: guys are like, you don't understand how like interconnected the

488
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Speaker 1: like global markets are, and you can't just unilaterally do

489
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Speaker 1: this because on one hand, it weakens our positions when

490
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Speaker 1: we want to enter into agreements, because there's no way

491
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Speaker 1: that we can follow through with what we're saying if

492
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Speaker 1: the president just tweets something the next day and throws

493
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Speaker 1: everything out of whack, right, So the first thought you

494
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: have in economy is like, well, people aren't buying enough

495
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Speaker 1: of our goods from us internally, so we're going to

496
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Speaker 1: attack the other guy's goods. It's like the very first

497
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Speaker 1: thought you have. And then you talk to people who

498
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Speaker 1: are experts and they're like, well, but that actually hurts

499
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Speaker 1: you and only helps, like very specifically the people who

500
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Speaker 1: like own those factories, because yeah, like you said, there's

501
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: so much interconnection. Uh, you know, people who run these companies,

502
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: like car companies are importing cheaper steel or aluminum from

503
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Speaker 1: other countries, and so that's gonna hurt like car manufacturers

504
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: and the people who work in those factories, which are

505
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: way more than the people who work and steal. So

506
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: it has very specific benefits. Um, I don't know. This

507
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Speaker 1: is not the first time I've been reminded of the

508
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: Vonnegut quote. The big trouble with dumb bastards is they're

509
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: too dumb to believe there's such a thing as being smart.

510
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: With Trump, because I feel like he gets the first

511
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: idea and thinks he's the first person to have it

512
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Speaker 1: and it's like, no, that's like the first of twenty

513
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Speaker 1: ideas people have and then discard and go to a

514
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Speaker 1: better idea. And the last thing I'd say is just that,

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Speaker 1: you know, the argument that there is a national security risk,

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Speaker 1: I would just say, you know, most people think a

517
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Speaker 1: big part of this huge, unprecedented period of peace that

518
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Speaker 1: we've been living through for the past you know, fifty years,

519
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Speaker 1: in terms of uh, no major countries fighting one another,

520
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Speaker 1: like not having world wars, uh not having wars that

521
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Speaker 1: kill you know, millions and millions of pete. A lot

522
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: of people think it's because of international trade and because

523
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: you know, why would we invade China when we can

524
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: get stuff from them that they do better than us

525
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 1: and give them stuff that we do better than them.

526
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: So it doesn't benefit anybody anymore to go to war.

527
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: But trying to go back to this sort of isolationist

528
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 1: nationalist stance is actually probably in the long run, much

529
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: worse for national security. Have you guys ever heard of

530
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: the McDonald's or the Golden Arches theory of um global peace.

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Speaker 1: I think it's called yeah, yeah, I have. I'm just

532
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: reading a bunch of pinker over my paternity week, but

533
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 1: explain what that is. So it's basically and it's um.

534
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: It's been discredited now, but it held up for a

535
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: really long time, I think, until some of the Yugoslavian

536
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: countries went at it back in the nineties and the Balkans.

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Speaker 1: But there was this period where no country that to

538
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: McDonald's had ever gone to war open war with another

539
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 1: country that had a McDonald's in it. And the basic

540
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: idea behind this is that if you had to McDonald's,

541
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: you had a thriving free trade democracy, a capitalist democracy,

542
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: all right, at the very least, you had some form

543
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: of capitalism. And the idea was that capitalist societies wanted

544
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: to make money off of other capitalist societies, not go

545
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: to war with them. So it kind of it kind

546
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: of under underscored what you were saying about the idea

547
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: that free trade and globalism could conceivably promote peace, at

548
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: least in a lot of people's mind. Certainly, it doesn't

549
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: sound like Competer Navarro's mind. No, not at all. So,

550
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: and I wonder I wonder about him. I'm sorry, one

551
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: more thing I wonder about him if he kind of

552
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: represents that whole guard that got Trump elected in the

553
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: first place. Which is kind of like just tear the

554
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: whole place down and start over again. If you are

555
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: an anti globalist and you're you know, you have the

556
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: ear of the president, Uh, you might not care if

557
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: that there there will what you would consider short term

558
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: harm that would come from a trade war, especially if

559
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: it it disintrenched America from this kind of global economy.

560
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: That it's it's a major part of now. Yeah, and

561
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: that's why I was saying that I'm reading a lot

562
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: of Pinker, Like he just released a book, uh, Enlightenment Now,

563
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: which is his follow up to The Better Angels of

564
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: Our Nature book that I was talking about a couple

565
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and you know, his whole stances that

566
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: like when you look at statistics, uh, you know, the

567
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: world is becoming vastly more peaceful because of you know,

568
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: democracy spreading and international trade and you know what you

569
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: were just talking about, Josh, and and because of this

570
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: narrative that has been taking hold in many places around

571
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: the world that things are getting worse because of the

572
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: news we consume, because of you know, the things that

573
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: we say to each other on social media. Uh, we

574
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: people think things are getting worse. And there's there is

575
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: this idea that nah, fuck it, tear it all down.

576
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: Things have gotten so bad. That's like no progress. Progress

577
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: is working. It's you know, and it's not nothing. It's perfect.

578
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: And I don't want to say, you know, we're we're

579
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: where we need to be. But uh, you know, things

580
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: when you look at most problems and compare them to

581
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: where those problems where a hundred years ago, uh, things

582
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: are just vastly better and even better when you compared

583
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: to two hundred years ago. So the frustration reminds of

584
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: like when you're a kid and you're building a really

585
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: elaborate lego thing and you misplaced one piece like ten

586
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: pieces later, and you're like fuck it, and you smash

587
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: the whole thing rather than just going back. It's it's

588
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: only ten pieces ago. You don't gotta smash the whole

589
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: fucking thing. You can address that. And what's apparently, like

590
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: in this meeting that I was talking about this Axios article,

591
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: Trump dis kept like shaming people by calling them globalists

592
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: throughout the thing. Like to Rob Porter, he's like, Wow,

593
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: I didn't realize you were such a globalist. And what's

594
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: interesting is that, like you know, Porter, and I think

595
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Speaker 1: John Kelly and Gary Cohne. They were just kind of

596
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: like resigned to the fact that like, wow, he's just

597
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: in like this weird mood because the way the adults

598
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: in the room, they thought they were going to have

599
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: like a sequence of tariffs that would slowly guide the

600
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: like the president to the right decision. So they're like,

601
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: first they we put tariffs on solar panels and washing

602
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: machines like to compete with China, and then like on

603
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: hundreds of Chinese products that were like stealing American intellectual property,

604
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: which was like something that was imminent. And then like

605
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: and then maybe do the steel and aluminum if if

606
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: at that point Trump really thought that he still needs

607
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: to slam them on this trade stuff. But I guess

608
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: at this point like he's fully committed because he kept

609
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: also mentioned like my base needs this, my base needs this.

610
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: And I think when you look at last week what

611
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: was going on with Hope Picks leaving, which was a

612
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: very close aid to him, and all the terrible press

613
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: about Jared and Ivanka, like I think this just sort

614
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: of like triggered him going like, oh, here's red meat

615
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: for my base, without thinking what this actually means. Similarly,

616
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: like even with the gun stuff, last week when he

617
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: was like take the guns and then do process. But

618
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: he's just he's just you know, like the last thing

619
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: that he heard and right right, I mean maybe the

620
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: markets are responding positively today because people are now realizing, Oh,

621
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: he just says ship. But I can't believe we're still

622
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: realizing that every year. Like it's like people just can't

623
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: believe that. But it's the case, you know, like, um,

624
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: he just says stuff and then he either forgets it

625
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: or backs off of it, or maybe doubles down for

626
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: a little while. But ultimately what he says, five percent

627
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: of it must translate into official policy agenda. Right, That's

628
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: that's it, just like throwaway comments, you know. Yeah, but

629
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Speaker 1: I guess he doesn't realize what effects that can have

630
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: simply tweeting like threatening a tariffs like oh I sent

631
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: I sent the stock market plummeting. I don't know if

632
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: he doesn't doesn't realize it. I think he probably gets

633
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: a bit of a kick out of it, to tell

634
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: you that truth. Right, Well, I mean you know absolutely, well, yeah,

635
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: there's this New York Times profile of him like that

636
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: kind of did a survey of his first year and

637
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: said that he gets antsy anytime he doesn't see his

638
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: name in the headlines for like a he yeah, he

639
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: needs this because the whole Picks and Jared and Ivanko

640
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Speaker 1: were getting all the shine last week. Yeah. I've spent

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Speaker 1: a lot of time thinking about sort of that progress

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Speaker 1: thing I was talking about versus Trump is UM, because

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Speaker 1: I wanted to see how this Pinker book was going

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Speaker 1: to deal with Trump is M and I don't think

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Speaker 1: he does it sufficiently. But Gia Tolentino, who's a New

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Speaker 1: Yorker writer, really good New York writer. People should google

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Speaker 1: her and read everything she's written. But she actually summed

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Speaker 1: it up really well and kind of dovetails with what

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Speaker 1: you were saying. Well, I was about the legos. She said,

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Speaker 1: what hurts so badly right now, I think is this

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Speaker 1: sense of unexpected retrenchment, the fear that decades of incremental

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Speaker 1: progress will be rapidly eradicated by an empty headed death

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Speaker 1: mcgog who appears to be doing everything on a win um.

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Speaker 1: And that I think sums up how I feel about,

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Speaker 1: you know, the idea of progress as it relates to

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Speaker 1: where we're at with uh, this guy at the at

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Speaker 1: the moment. Well, but history also teach you a lesson

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Speaker 1: year two. Trade wars don't really end well for anybody, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: we tried that with Canada after the Civil War, we

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Speaker 1: like ended a reciprocal trade agreement agreement with Canada, and

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Speaker 1: to avoid tariffs, like sixty five American manufacturers just move

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Speaker 1: their operations to Canada to avoid the tariffs, and like

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Speaker 1: or even like the Smooth Holly Act in Y like

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Speaker 1: basically was putting tariffs on pretty much anything that was imported,

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Speaker 1: and that was disastrous and it a lot of people

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Speaker 1: say that they agree that that probably made the Great

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Speaker 1: Depression a lot worse than it could have been. But

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Speaker 1: you know, history really isn't important, so forget it. Never mind.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go to them who has anything to

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Speaker 1: learn from history, suckers. I was gonna say that that

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Speaker 1: lego analogy though so perfect, Miles. The thing is is

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Speaker 1: sometimes you want to go smash the legos, but normally

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Speaker 1: there's an adult there that points out that's not really

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Speaker 1: a good idea. Here's a better way. It feels like

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Speaker 1: we're missing the adults. Now there's nobody saying wait, wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: let's not do this, or that there's not enough people

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Speaker 1: or the people who are saying this are not actually

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Speaker 1: empower um, but there's no adults to to keep us

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Speaker 1: from smashing the legos or to keep that urge, because

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Speaker 1: it is a pretty understandable urge, that that nihilism when

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Speaker 1: when things are just this messed up and this polarized,

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Speaker 1: and there's doesn't seem to be any hope whatsoever for

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Speaker 1: any kind of resolution to it. Of course you want

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Speaker 1: to smash the legos, but to have somebody wiser or

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Speaker 1: even with just a different perspective to say, I know

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Speaker 1: you want to smash the Legos, but don't do it

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Speaker 1: because you're going to hate yourself later. Here, Let's just

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Speaker 1: try this instead. This is a better solution. That that

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Speaker 1: voice is is very much missing right now from from

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Speaker 1: our world, from America at least it feels like yeah,

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Speaker 1: um yeah, And I think with Cone also threatening to

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Speaker 1: leave over this whole terror thing, that would be the

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Speaker 1: last of the adults, or at least the seemingly adult

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Speaker 1: people in that admits is Kelly not an adult? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. He's willing to compromise his dignity and beliefs return,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, he really seems like, man, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: when you're speculating that God is punishing you. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: He's like, this is a deep cup. But like, do

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Speaker 1: you remember Janine Garoffalo's character in The Cable Guy when

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Speaker 1: she worked at Medieval Times. Well, anyway, there's a point

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Speaker 1: where she's just like DS for silver ware. She's like,

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Speaker 1: there was there was no silverware in medieval times. Hence

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Speaker 1: there's no silverware at Medieval Times. And Matthew brodicks like,

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Speaker 1: there's no silverware, but they had pepsi and she just

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Speaker 1: looks at and goes, look, I got a lot of tables, man.

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of how John Kelly is at now.

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Speaker 1: It's like, look I got a lot of tables, man,

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Speaker 1: like just a and all just one last thing. I also,

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Speaker 1: he's a horrible race. Yeah. They're even in the UK, right,

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Speaker 1: they're trying to tell Trump this is a bad idea.

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Speaker 1: Like the UK Cabinet Office minister who is it, David Liddington,

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Speaker 1: He was even like, yeah, you know, we tried that

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Speaker 1: protection and stuff with our car manufacturers in the sixties

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Speaker 1: and seventies and that actually didn't work. It protected inefficiencies

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Speaker 1: and we lost all our export markets because our competitors

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Speaker 1: who are more competitive went out and gobbled those up

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Speaker 1: from us. So everyone's trying to tell him like, no, no no, no, this,

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Speaker 1: this isn't the way to do it. But I guess

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Speaker 1: we'll just smashed the legos. It was not Liddington, Mr Trump.

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Speaker 1: The election season happened yesterday in Texas. Uh, miles, what

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Speaker 1: have we learned? Well, we learned that Texas is poised

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Speaker 1: to send to Latinas to Congress for the first time.

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Speaker 1: That is good. Well, come on, buddy, that's the other

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Speaker 1: podcast you do. Ser So it's and it so seems

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Speaker 1: a little bit late considering the demographics in Texas. But

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Speaker 1: either way, Veronica Escobar and Sylvia Garcia are on their way.

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Speaker 1: And the only reason we assume this is a foregone

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Speaker 1: conclusion is because how solidly blew their districts are that

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Speaker 1: they're running. And so they are and one of the

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Speaker 1: very few. Yeah. And also betto Rourke. Uh you know,

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Speaker 1: he got the nomination for the Democrats to run against

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Speaker 1: Ted Cruz. Uh. And one of the really interesting things

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Speaker 1: with the turnout was like historic, uh in Texas for Democrats,

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Speaker 1: Like I think, ineen, there's something like six hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: Democrats showed up this uh, this go around, it was

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Speaker 1: like something just over a million, So that's a huge that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But however, the Republicans, they were like, I think one

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Speaker 1: and a half million Republicans came out to vote. But

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Speaker 1: that's just a function of them. They're being more registered

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Speaker 1: Republicans than Democrats in the state. Nonetheless, it feels like

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Speaker 1: a little bit of the Republicans are emphasizing this. Fox

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Speaker 1: News is running with this story more than any other outlet.

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Speaker 1: I saw that the Democrats are coming out in full

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Speaker 1: force because I think they understand what the mainstream media

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Speaker 1: didn't understand ahead of the two thousand sixteen election, that

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Speaker 1: the more you cover how strong the other side is coming,

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Speaker 1: the more people will be motivated to get out and

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Speaker 1: actually vote. Um. So yeah, you're seeing the conservative media

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Speaker 1: make a huge deal about the Democrats actually coming out,

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Speaker 1: but uh, you know, the Republicans came out in massive

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Speaker 1: numbers as well, and it's it's probably not gonna happen

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Speaker 1: for the Democrats in Texas. It is just a sign

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Speaker 1: that there is a blue wave that they are so

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Speaker 1: much something. The numbers were stronger than they have been previously.

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Speaker 1: And the one fun thing was, you know as Ted

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Speaker 1: Cruise and Betto Rook. You know that now we know

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be the Senate showdown. Uh. Ted Cruise releases

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Speaker 1: dumbass country song to like flame betto Rourke. Uh and Brennie,

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Speaker 1: you'll have to listen to you have to hear this.

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Speaker 1: Just critique this composition from the Ted Cruise campaign. If

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Speaker 1: you're going to run in Texas, you can't be a

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Speaker 1: liberal man because liberal thought it is not the spirit

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Speaker 1: of the little man man and man. Yeah, and if

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Speaker 1: you're going to run in Texas, be a liberal maner

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Speaker 1: little stories liberal Robert wanted to fit in liberal what's

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Speaker 1: his name Nato and hit in with the ground, wants

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Speaker 1: those sap borgers and wants to take our guns. Not

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Speaker 1: a chance on a gill get a vote from millions

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Speaker 1: of Texons, Texas suns in Texas, you can't be a

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Speaker 1: liberal man. I'm Ted sus and I approved that. I'm

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Speaker 1: Tad Cruise, Tid Cruise, not crule this missing man. He's yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's he's trying to flame my beattle Rook because his

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Speaker 1: name is Robert or he's he's he's Irish, but he's

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Speaker 1: also fluent in Spanish, but he's been called Bettle like

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Speaker 1: his whole life, and and Ted Cruise is trying to

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Speaker 1: be like he changed his name blow. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what it's like appealed to. I guess I'm not Maybe

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Speaker 1: that's what he's trying to say. But also remember Ted Cruise,

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Speaker 1: you're a real name is Raphael Edward Cruz, right, and

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Speaker 1: you're changing you know. I don't know, guy, I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's a good song. I don't think it is.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's uh. I think those chords have

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Speaker 1: been a little overused. I don't think they're going to

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Speaker 1: grab your ear too much. And furthermore, I think it's

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Speaker 1: just too many syllables Perstanza, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: they were really Robert. The only one that can really

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Speaker 1: put that many syllables into a song is like John

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Speaker 1: Popper from You Know what's saying that kind of a stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's just too much stuff. And liberal is

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Speaker 1: just not a good word. They should have changed it

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Speaker 1: to libtard. They should have changed until two syllable liberal role.

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Speaker 1: And they're trying to make it a it's a three

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Speaker 1: syllable word. They're trying to make a two syllable liberal

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Speaker 1: and it's a liberal. Just the messaging seems like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what it's accomplishing, because it's just telling us

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Speaker 1: what the conventional wisdom is. It's like, you'll never beat us,

797
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Speaker 1: you're you're a Democrat and they don't win in Texas.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, that's the conventional wisdom, and we're trying

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Speaker 1: to upset that. But like, I don't know, it didn't

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Speaker 1: seem like an effective way to like frame the race

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Speaker 1: from their perspective. You're not going to get a stadium

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Speaker 1: of people singing along with this song. It's not gonna work. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you could probably pay about twenty plants at a rally

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Speaker 1: to do it, and then like people be like but

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Speaker 1: still they would have to have like notes and they'd

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Speaker 1: be looking at their iPhones singing along. They just wouldn't

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Speaker 1: want to, like the pitch pipe to make sure you're on.

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Speaker 1: Come on, guys, let's try it one more time. Takes already,

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Speaker 1: man part up eric um, yeah, and guitar playing wise,

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Speaker 1: it's not bad. All right, We're gonna take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back. And we're back and we are

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Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined by super producer on a hose. Nie, Oh,

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Speaker 1: there's a steel door swinging in. Are you hello, hey Anna?

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Speaker 1: How are you welcome? Welcome to the Daily Zay. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So you came on Monday and told us about what

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Speaker 1: was supposed to be the Bachelor finale. Uh that didn't

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Speaker 1: end up being the actual finale because that was yesterday.

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Speaker 1: It was yesterday time traveling. Yes, excuse him? Oh here

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Speaker 1: we go with that. Well, I just had a baby, okay, yes,

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Speaker 1: as you guys all don't know, I produced a podcast

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Speaker 1: about the Bachelor and it's called will you Accept This? Right?

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Speaker 1: Ardon Marine and Aaron Foley, and it's on not on

823
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Speaker 1: this network anyway, but mind me never to have her on.

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Speaker 1: I'm all plugs, all plugs all the time. But so,

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Speaker 1: so what happened so last night was the two hour

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Speaker 1: after the final rows because they just won't let us

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Speaker 1: go right. He dumped the girl he was supposed to be,

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Speaker 1: dumed girl Becca that he picked he originally proposed to

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Speaker 1: on Monday night in the finale, and because that had

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Speaker 1: to take about a year to show on television, it

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Speaker 1: was a three hour finale. Like I said yesterday, Um,

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Speaker 1: I had to be put to bed afterwards. The exactly. Um,

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Speaker 1: so last night was a two hour after the rose

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Speaker 1: where the girls at after after the Rose? Right, yeah, Jesus,

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Speaker 1: I about to have like PTSD flashbacks, Um has, can

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Speaker 1: I ask you a question? Has he ever offered a stem? Well? Actually,

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Speaker 1: funnily enough, funnily enough, here we go. He gave her

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Speaker 1: the rose and then when she jumped to hug him,

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Speaker 1: the top of the rose fell off. The original proposal,

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Speaker 1: which is that's how you knew that. I knew immediately.

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Speaker 1: I was like real metaphor crumbling flowers. She ended up

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Speaker 1: with just a stem, and she was the likable one,

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Speaker 1: right and like she was the one who had a

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Speaker 1: personality and he Lauren be the one he dumped her

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Speaker 1: for just doesn't have a ton of person doesn't say anything.

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Speaker 1: A lot of what she says is wow, m that's

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Speaker 1: the and then he says I love that. And that

848
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Speaker 1: is all their conversation that she says. He tells her like,

849
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: look they want to They went on a date in

850
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: Italy where he's like, look, I've seen cheese like that

851
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: before and she was like wow and he was like, yeah,

852
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: I love that. And then they proceeded to be like

853
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: not just looking at each other and then he fell

854
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: in love so hard. So yesterday, did he propose to anyone? Yes,

855
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: he proposed to Lauren b at the live show at

856
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: the end after he talked to Becca and all like

857
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: a tech sales Yeah. She is a small, petite, blond

858
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: woman who seems to come from Trump supporting parents, who

859
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: does not say much. So she gets the proposal, so

860
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: he the show starts, they bring out Becca, who he dumped.

861
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: She goes through all her feelings, was like, oh, this

862
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: is so terrible. Chris Harrison has the nerve to be

863
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: like everyone's attacking me on Twitter, which is like, I'll

864
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: go the hot guy's yeah. He's like I'm getting death threats,

865
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: which everyone's like, yeah, you filmed a breakup. It's oh,

866
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: I see, I see so he filmed the breakup. Everyone's

867
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: like this is oh, this is like the guy who

868
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: filmed the suicide on YouTube, right, okay? I asked. People

869
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: are just like why could you? How could you do that?

870
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: And then he makes the bath or the girl that

871
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: he dumped. Becca justified that it was okay for them

872
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: to film her, so you could. She was like, yes,

873
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: I understand that I went on this show, so I

874
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: understand that. Really, I just it was you know, I

875
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: gave up my rights so it had to be filmed,

876
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: and it helped me, you know, helped me get past it.

877
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: You know what you signed up for, right, yeah? Right?

878
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: They her justify it so it could make Chris Harrison

879
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: look better, but the whole situation was just and just

880
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 1: came off like a hostage reading video. She's like, yes,

881
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: I feel totally okay. Isis is treating me fine? Yea?

882
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: And so I mean that, guys, that is the contract

883
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: though you're entering into like you're you're having your personal

884
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 1: relationship filmed at any given hour, and they have that's

885
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: what the show is That not the show? Yeah, I mean,

886
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: and we'll commodify your trauma. Yeah, and you agree. Basically,

887
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: the understanding is if you're in the final three, you

888
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: will have sex with ye fantasy so you can turn

889
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: it down, but they usually don't because in America, do

890
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: you feel like that's almost like a currency in a relationship,

891
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: like don't you love me, I will sleep with you, right,

892
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: And then a lot of the time he sleeps with

893
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: them and then is like I'm going to dump you.

894
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: Actually never mind. One of them does get sent home

895
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: after the so that is that's yeah, they do sign

896
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: up for some humiliation. Something I found very interesting watching

897
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: Bachelor Winner Games where they had international contestants coming from

898
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: all the international shows is a lot of the international

899
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: people did not take the fantasy suite. Like one woman

900
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: from Russia literally said I couldn't look my mother in

901
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: the eye if I went to the fantasy after this

902
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: wait her mother was inside of the fantasy want to

903
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: come in here. In America, we're all about winning at

904
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: all costs. It's like, look if you've got a funk

905
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: to get to that final. We learned that in Japan

906
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: on the Batchel the furthest they go on TV as

907
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 1: a hug. They don't even care it like the final

908
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: two will maybe kiss, but I still I just shake

909
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: hands with my mother. Yeah, okay, I'm Japanese anyway. So

910
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: they bring up are to talk to Becca after you know,

911
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: the breakup and it's is our bachelor and they have

912
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: a weird, awkward like okay conversation which doesn't really go

913
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: anywhere and already just says everything is his fault, but

914
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: then makes a hundred excuses as to why it's not

915
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: his fault. Like the Prusshure, which is so so it's

916
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: not his fault. Actually, any that was, any bachelor that

917
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: accepts to do this in the surrender of the room

918
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: of what like forty gorgeous women, he willy, let's say

919
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: twenty six. That's a good amount of women. Let's say

920
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: one and and and also like the bachelor ate the

921
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: same thing. They lose their minds. You're no longer in

922
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: your right mind when people attractive people are talking to

923
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: you like you're a god, right, it's just crazy. So whatever,

924
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: he says that that what now? What he's he saying

925
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: At the very end, he says that, well, they all

926
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: said you shouldn't have proposed if you were that unsure,

927
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: and which he goes, I just felt so pressured, like

928
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison was looking at me, like people wanted it.

929
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: I had to give them something. The ratings, baby, the ratings,

930
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: basically what he said. But she was like, cool, well,

931
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: you're an adult man, you can make your own choices.

932
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: And so then so she was still like mad and

933
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: openly criticizing him. During she wasn't criticizing him. She said

934
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: she forgave him. She was very always the whole season,

935
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 1: was very level headed, and that's I think white people

936
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: liked her so much. Also, they started go fund me

937
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: for her, like fans. She made up to like six thousand,

938
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 1: which she donated to cancerries search on the show, which

939
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: I thought was very nice. Wait, why I go fund me?

940
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: Because people were like, you know what, We're going to

941
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: send her some money for being dumped on live TV.

942
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: Go have a drink, honey, go to Mexico all the

943
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: time of your life, which she was like, I don't

944
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: need that money. Yeah, Puerto Rico still needs electricity, running water.

945
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: But anyway, listen to this woman, you have just go

946
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: fund me. Sound like a dismissive kind of like angry thing.

947
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: Fun fund go fund me, do anything. And then they

948
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: brought on Lauren b and Ari together. He proposed to

949
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 1: her right then and there. Yeah. They were like we're

950
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: having the time of our loves. So yeah. And then

951
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: they left and then they announced the new bachelorette. It's

952
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 1: going to be Becca dumped so and then they brought

953
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: it a few bachelors to like contestants to meter to

954
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 1: start the season. Often well, that was an interesting group

955
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: of guys. One guy played banjos and one guy brought

956
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: a horse in which I was like, you gotta stop

957
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: bringing horses into the studio. They ship everywhere. Do they

958
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 1: bring horses in a line. It's something that people will

959
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: show up in horses. One girl showed up with the

960
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: camel ones. I don't know where she got hold on. Yeah,

961
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 1: I'm Lebanese. Is the horse one of the Bachelor's. Yeah,

962
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 1: this whole guy was like, hey, I brought this horse

963
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: because you always gotta get back up on the horse,

964
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: which I was like, take him out. He's not even

965
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 1: a farmer that he just brought it him for the metaphor.

966
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. He was from like Wisconsin. Hilarious, Like

967
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: he didn't even know how to ride. It is God's

968
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: he's scared of. In in the Bachelor of the Bachelor,

969
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: I am so bewildered by how uncreative people are, right,

970
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: you know, like that is a funny joke. Well, and

971
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: then they were like get up on the horse, and

972
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm wearing a dress. Just made her get

973
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: up on the horse. Anyway, don't worry, we'll mosaic it out,

974
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: but only these thousand people will see. Should be an

975
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: interesting season. I really liked her um the most season. Yeah,

976
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: yea of years. They didn't know such a boring human

977
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: being could bring such a crazy So the reason this

978
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 1: was dramatic is he proposed, which is how the season

979
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: usually ends, but they stuck with him through. What usually

980
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: also happens is after they propose and are engaged, they

981
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: oftentimes will break up. They filmed the breakup which came

982
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: after the proposal, and then had another episode where he

983
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 1: proposed to the other girl. So it's like a big twist.

984
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: Row is why this is different than normal. Usually people

985
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: wait about two years to break up because if you

986
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: wait two years, you get to keep the ring, which

987
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: is usually worth like twollars. Is that true, yes, if

988
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: you wait, specifically to the Bachelor Bachelor, Yeah, Neil Lane

989
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: shows up. As we call it the corpse of Neil

990
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: Lane shows up because he looks like a wax figure

991
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 1: at this point, and he's the jeweler ne Lane Lane

992
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: about me show you jew He's really creepy. He is

993
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: nothing famous in this room. We do not know him.

994
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: It sounds a bit like smigeling comes out. We always

995
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: joke that he's like a bat that like wakes up

996
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: and like flies, just like, let me give you a ring.

997
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: And then but it's can keep it if you last

998
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: for two years. If you don't last, how long you

999
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,479
Speaker 1: got to give the ring back? But if you last,

1000
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: has anybody ever like broken up the day before, like

1001
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: the guy was just like this is not working. I

1002
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: don't think so you can last one at least you

1003
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: keep it to yourself or you work together. Like, look,

1004
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep the ring with the money. I mean

1005
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 1: people will like die early for money. Like there's a

1006
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 1: thing where like at a certain point the tax break

1007
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: for like death and inheritance was wearing off, and so

1008
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: like all these people just died the day before that

1009
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: to I mean, go watch dateline. People murder each other

1010
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: daily for grand Yeah that's good money. All right, that's

1011
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: gonna do it for this weeks weekly zeite guys, please

1012
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: like and review the show. If you like the show,

1013
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: uh means the world of Miles. He needs your validation, folks.

1014
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will

1015
00:54:14,520 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: talk to him Monday. By there under acting part of

1016
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: bat