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Speaker 2: His work in the Boston Globe. Pete, great to have

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Speaker 3: Hello.

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Speaker 1: Are the Boston Red Sox participating in the trade deadline today?

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Speaker 4: Doesn't look like it's so far, and I'm shocked, to

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Speaker 4: be honest with you, because they have some very clearly

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Speaker 4: identified needs that can help this team. They're in the

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Speaker 4: playoffs as of today, they were a game behind the Yankees.

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Speaker 4: I thought for sure you'd see them at a starting pitcher,

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Speaker 4: perhaps somebody who could play first base. They did add

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Speaker 4: Steven Match to their bollpen, but their needs are a

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Speaker 4: lot more. This has been a big surprise that the

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Speaker 4: deadline hasn't hit yet. We'll see what happens, but so

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Speaker 4: far it's been a disappointing day for Red Sox fans.

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Speaker 5: I'm Bloom got absolutely eviscerated for the guy who never

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Speaker 5: made the move. He never made the move. All of

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Speaker 5: a sudden, you bring in Craig Bresl. It's not Heim Bloom.

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Speaker 5: Maybe it's the puppeteer that's above hem Bloom and Craig

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Speaker 5: Breslo that are saying, well, go make the moves. But

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Speaker 5: make sure they're just as cheap as Roman Anthony, Marcelo Meyer,

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Speaker 5: Sedey and Rafaela. So go ahead and make those moves,

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Speaker 5: but don't expect any extra money.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: The Red Sox like to say they're championship driven, but

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Speaker 4: the last few years they haven't demonstrated that when the

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Speaker 4: time has come to do that, and this team has

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Speaker 4: done a good job since they traded Raphael Devers, they've

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Speaker 4: got themselves back into contention. Really, I think against all odds,

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Speaker 4: a lot of people thought, well, they made that trade,

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Speaker 4: that was going to be the end of the season

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Speaker 4: for them. They've played better than the Giants since the

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Speaker 4: Giants acquired Devers, and Craig Breslow flew out the Seattle

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Speaker 4: the day after the trade to meet with the team

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Speaker 4: and say, this is not a white flag. We're not

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Speaker 4: giving up on you. We still feel like this is

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Speaker 4: a good team. He made a statement to us saying,

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Speaker 4: would have won if we had kept Evers.

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Speaker 7: To this point, that's all been true.

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Speaker 4: But if you don't go supplement the rotation, if you

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Speaker 4: don't add something, I think a first base obviously, how

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Speaker 4: those are just something words if they don't do something

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Speaker 4: to back that up, Pete.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but does this current group understand how important it

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Speaker 1: is to strike at the trade deadline? It sounds like

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Speaker 1: a silly question, but I'm being serious. I mean, hey,

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Speaker 1: they picked up Alex Bregman laighton'sprick training.

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Speaker 2: That was a big boom.

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Speaker 1: I think that probably led to a lot better you know,

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Speaker 1: TV numbers, attendance, the whole deal, which they had been

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Speaker 1: super concerned about, right, And like you mentioned, this team's

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Speaker 1: generally played well since the Dever's move, which was negative

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Speaker 1: pr for them. But I'm just curious because there's been

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Speaker 1: some botched trade deadlines with multiple groups. Now, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: do they understand the importance of this? Of course to

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Speaker 1: the fan base, of course, to the players who want

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Speaker 2: Do you think they understand that well.

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Speaker 4: Craig Breslo is a member of the twenty thirteen Red

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Speaker 4: Sox who had a very clear defined need at the trade.

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Speaker 4: They needed another starter at the time. They went out

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Speaker 4: and got Jake started ten games down the stretch. They

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Speaker 4: won six of those games. He pitched very well in

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Speaker 4: the two games he pitched in the playoffs, they won

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Speaker 4: the World Series, so it's really not that hard. You know,

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Speaker 4: Breslo lived it as a player. You go back to

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Speaker 4: So yeah, the Red Sox understand what deadline moves can

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Speaker 4: you know, especially the twenty and eighteen team, that was

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Speaker 4: I think the Red Sox clearly understand what needs to

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Speaker 7: Okay, so my question is Breslo came what organization? Did

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Speaker 8: The Cubs? What have the Cubs done today? They've been

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Speaker 8: off they quiet too, So is Breslo just following the lead.

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Speaker 8: He was up by Jed Hoyer, but I thought THEO

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Speaker 4: Theo's here, no doubt about that. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 4: know that he's working, you know, I don't know that

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Speaker 4: not you need to try to figure out what they

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Speaker 4: right now? They have four starters on their major league roster.

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Speaker 4: They need to add another starter of some kind. And

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Speaker 4: a first baseman. They need to add a first baseman.

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Speaker 4: It seemed pretty obvious what they needed to do, and

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Speaker 4: so far they haven't done it.

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Speaker 5: Is there a the move that they do make makes

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Speaker 5: Red Sox fans mad? Obviously, nothing's going to be as

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Speaker 5: mad as you know when they got rid of Dever

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Speaker 5: as a whole Dever situation. But is there a move

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Speaker 5: that's made that they that they say, wait, man, why

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Speaker 5: didn't we just not make a move?

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Speaker 4: I I don't know with that what that what that

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Speaker 4: He's hurt now, but he's played well when he came up.

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Speaker 4: Roman Anthony has been great over the last three weeks.

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Speaker 4: He's practically put himself in consideration for American League Rookie

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Speaker 4: of the Year. I think, you know, this the momentum

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Speaker 4: you know, they've kind of put themselves in position. I mean,

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Speaker 4: if the season ended right now, they're in the playoffs

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Speaker 4: and and I don't see how you don't do something

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Speaker 7: Or what did they do? You said they need a starter?

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Speaker 7: Who is it, Pete?

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Speaker 2: Give me, give me what from what's left now?

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Speaker 7: Give me Zach Allen?

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Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I mean probably maybe it's Charlie. I

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Speaker 4: mean you would like to think, you know, no offense

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Speaker 4: maybe it's Charlie Morton. Alex Glora likes him from their

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Speaker 4: days in Houston. Zach Gallon seemed to make sense if

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Speaker 4: Arizona's gonna trade him too after trading Merril Kelly. So

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Speaker 4: we're not Maybe there'll be a last second move, but

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Speaker 4: you know, I mean, as where we are right now,

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Speaker 4: they do not have a starter for their fifth turn

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Speaker 1: All right, so last one for you. We'll get some

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Speaker 1: instant reaction by no means done. But John Hayman and

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Speaker 1: Joel Sherman said that they're talking to the Dodgers about

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Speaker 1: Dustin May, who I do think will be moved. I

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Speaker 1: know Dustin May wants to be a starter, and if

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Speaker 1: the injured guys come back, he's going to be booted

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Speaker 7: Right Red he breaking news Dustin made of the Reds.

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Speaker 2: They got Okay, okay, so thoughts back together again?

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Speaker 1: Yeah we will, Red Sox fans be pleased with this

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Speaker 1: being the move. So it's it's Dustin May and Steven

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Speaker 2: What do you think? Great?

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Speaker 4: It well sounder for a spaceman, So you can't say

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Speaker 4: it's been a big success. Dustin May is a guy

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Speaker 4: win the World Series. So it's hard to get overly

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Speaker 4: excited about that, but you know, it is an improvement

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Speaker 4: on what they have. I'd say C plus if if

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Speaker 4: I had to give a grade.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's fair.

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Speaker 1: You guys agree C plus ish See Yeah, Pete, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for the time, and we'll look out

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Speaker 1: for your article on.

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Speaker 7: These two moves.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks Bello, thank you, pet Abraham Boston Globe

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Speaker 1: to a former Phillies GM and one of the stars

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Speaker 1: Rubin and Mara Junior joining us right now. Ruben, great

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Speaker 1: to have you on. Let's get your big picture take

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Speaker 1: on the damage the Phillies have done so far in

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Speaker 1: the past week. We'll include Robertson. So Robertson, Duran and

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Speaker 11: you know, they really needed both have the best starting

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Speaker 11: pitching in baseball. I believe as far as depth is concerned,

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Speaker 11: the first three or four they really needed to add

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Speaker 3: They did that.

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Speaker 11: Robertson didn't cost him any real talent capital, which was huge,

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Speaker 11: in a one hundred percent tax bracket. But a veteran

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Speaker 11: And again, Duran maybe one of the best arms as

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Speaker 11: in Philadelphia. He's pitched in playoff situations before and had success.

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Speaker 11: They really liked the way he threw the ball when

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Speaker 11: it was most important, and uh, you know, as far

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Speaker 3: There's no super teams.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's talk about Harrison Bader. They went for

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Speaker 5: You know, you heard it. You heard Howard Eskin barking

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Speaker 3: I think it's a positive. I think their big move

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Speaker 11: They can get hot when it's when it's important to

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Speaker 8: Are they done? That's all I want to know. Are

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Speaker 3: I think that they are.

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Speaker 8: Sorry, Ruben, Sorry, I have to ask you this because

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Speaker 7: Would you trade with Luis Robert Jr.

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Speaker 8: Or would you do what they're saying to do, which

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Speaker 8: would you have said, hey, guys, he's out there, he

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Speaker 1: Can I give context here, Rubin real quick, like just

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Speaker 2: So like, fine, we'll take the lottery risk, We'll pick

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Speaker 1: He's having a bad year up until the last few weeks,

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Speaker 3: I would take the player.

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Speaker 11: I would take the player because he would improve the

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Speaker 11: He has the ability to do that, he has the

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Speaker 3: And so if I'm viewing him from.

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Speaker 11: The outside, in my view, is this, I'll take this

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Speaker 1: Rubin last one for you and cited for the Phillies.

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Speaker 1: We were debating this earlier. Do you think that their

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Speaker 11: I think they've done enough in the bullpen because when

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Speaker 3: Now, think about how you line up.

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Speaker 11: Now, you got Duran, You've got Kirkering, You've got Strom Robertson,

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Speaker 11: Painter Lozardo. I'll take my chances with that bullpen. That's

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Speaker 11: And you just got to hope the guy's performed. Now,

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Speaker 11: He's got unbelievable stuff. But I mean that's when you

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Speaker 3: Figure that out.

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Speaker 11: But you're talking about the possibility of having some real

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Speaker 3: Would I try to make them another move. I wouldn't stop.

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Speaker 11: Until the thirty until a six o'clock hour, my brother,

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's how I would work. I would be

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Speaker 11: I know that they've held some of their talent capital

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Speaker 3: If they're still a move to be made. You never know.

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Speaker 11: You never know when a team will come back. There's

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Speaker 11: Dombrowski said that they thought that this Duran thing was

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Speaker 1: Done to move forward, no doubt. Merrill, Kelly's, Ryan O'Hearn, like,

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Speaker 1: there's still names here. Mullin's just got moved to the Mets. Ruben,

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Speaker 1: you're the man. Thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: They'll recap everything on the Philly Show. They've been doing

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Speaker 1: for it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Rubin, You got it, guys, We'll talk to you, okay.

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Speaker 1: we go, Adam Jude joining us right now live on

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Speaker 1: FT to talk about the Seattle Mariners.

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Speaker 2: Adam, great to have you on the show.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, I have to imagine Seattle is freaking out in

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Speaker 1: what they've done here. This is a franchise that hasn't

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Speaker 1: really pushed chips in in my mind until now. You

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Speaker 1: can catch Adams coverage in the Seattle Times. But what

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Speaker 1: are you going to write about in the Times with

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Speaker 1: the hall that they've put together over the past week.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think the big question that was, you know,

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Speaker 12: do the Mariners maybe have the best and deepest lineup

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Speaker 12: in the American League and are they now potentially the

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Speaker 12: favorites in the in the Al West.

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Speaker 13: Obviously, Uh, they.

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Speaker 12: Need to play a little better and need to play

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Speaker 12: a little more consistently. And it starts this weekend a

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Speaker 12: huge series. The Mariners are hosting the Texas Rangers. Uh,

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Speaker 12: the Rangers are surging. Uh, they sound like they're active

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Speaker 12: here in the last few hours before the deadline too.

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Speaker 12: But the Mariners recognized that the American League is is

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Speaker 12: wide open, maybe as wide open as it's ever been,

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Speaker 12: as the and as the only franchise that's never been

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Speaker 12: to the World Series. I think it was the Mariners.

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Speaker 12: They were incumbent on, you know, doing everything they could

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Speaker 12: to to add to this team, to to bring back

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Speaker 12: a Gino Suarez, one of the most popular players in

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Speaker 12: recent history for the Manners. He was only here two years,

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Speaker 12: but it felt like a decade, just the impact he

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Speaker 12: had both in the lineup and the clubhouse and with

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Speaker 12: the fan base. So there was a perfect move at

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Speaker 12: the perfect time for the Mariners. And and they might

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Speaker 12: not be done yet.

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Speaker 8: Hey Jude, they should make a song. I mean, that's

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Speaker 8: a great name for a song. But I love what

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Speaker 8: the Mirriors have done. Love I absolutely love the moves

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Speaker 8: that they've made. But why haven't they been winning? Because yes,

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Speaker 8: I know Naylor and Suarez are just getting there. But

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Speaker 8: Scott's like, this is a World Series team that can

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Speaker 8: win the World Series, And I get that, but why

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Speaker 8: haven't they been winning consistently.

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Speaker 7: They're five games over their five games back.

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Speaker 8: Yes, these guys are great moves, but is it enough

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Speaker 8: because there's something not working there so far. Raley's sitting

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Speaker 8: forty plus homers. Billio has been hot, you know, like,

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Speaker 8: what's the problem here?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, you're throwing Randy rose Reine there too, who's having

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Speaker 12: the best season of his career. They just haven't been

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Speaker 12: able to put it all together. At the same time.

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Speaker 12: It feels like the offense gets going and then the

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Speaker 12: starting pitching. Starting pitching is kind of down a little bit.

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Speaker 12: Starting pitching picks up. Also on the offenses is slowing

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Speaker 12: down a little bit here too. The bullpen has been

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Speaker 12: up and down a little bit, which is why they're

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Speaker 12: still here in the last few yards for the deadline,

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Speaker 12: trying to add one more.

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Speaker 13: High leverage arm into the bullpen.

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Speaker 12: I'm not sure they're gonna be able to push anything

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Speaker 12: across the finish line necessarily, but they're trying here. So

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Speaker 12: it's a great question. Aj I've been able to put

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Speaker 12: my finger on it entirely. Obviously, the injuries they're starting

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Speaker 12: rotation in the first half of the season was one

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Speaker 12: of the biggest storylines, probably the biggest storyline after cal

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Speaker 12: Ralely and all he's done. But they're trying to get

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Speaker 12: Logan Gilbert right, They're trying to get George Kirby right.

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Speaker 12: Brian wu has been excellent, Luis Castillo has having one

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Speaker 12: of the best seasons of his career quietly, so if

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Speaker 12: they can get all those things clicking at the same time,

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Speaker 12: they get those starting pitchers consistently. Going six innings into

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Speaker 12: the seventh obviously takes a ton of pressure off that bullpen.

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Speaker 12: But they've just been so streaky. That's kind of who

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Speaker 12: they've been in the past few years. When you're a

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Speaker 12: team like the Mariners who rely so much on the

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Speaker 12: home run ball, you're gonna have some ups and downs.

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Speaker 12: They still have quite a bit of swing and miss

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Speaker 12: in their lineup, so we're seeing some of those just

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Speaker 12: high peaks and low valleys, low low valleys, and obviously

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Speaker 12: as they turn the page here to August, they're hoping

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Speaker 12: to sort of iron some of that out, And you know,

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Speaker 12: they're thinking Geno's could kind of be that guy. He's

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Speaker 12: the good vibes guy, and maybe he'll bring a little

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Speaker 12: more consistency as well.

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Speaker 5: Couldn't They have had Josh Naylor and Hieo Suarez at

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Speaker 5: the beginning of the year, when they were coming off

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Speaker 5: a season when all five starters stayed healthy and they

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Speaker 5: weren't scratching and clawing with their bullpen. They're like, they

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Speaker 5: were primed this offseason to go and get a Pete Alonso,

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Speaker 5: and now it's like, oh, great, yeah.

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Speaker 10: We're gonna kind of go for it.

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Speaker 5: Even though it looks like great moves they could have

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Speaker 5: done this early and they did.

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Speaker 13: It right, it's a fair counterpoint.

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Speaker 12: And you know, you if they had done this, you know,

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Speaker 12: six months ago, you're looking at a team that's maybe

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Speaker 12: ten games over five hundred and instead of five and

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Speaker 12: just cleaning to that last wild card spot. Right now,

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Speaker 12: I don't have a great answer for it other than

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Speaker 12: this is who the Mariners are. They had only fifteen

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Speaker 12: million dollars to spend in the offseason. That's one Geno Suarez,

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Speaker 12: and so that would have been their only move in

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Speaker 12: the offseason if he was even conceivably available. But when

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Speaker 12: you're operating on a fairly limited budget at times, you've

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Speaker 12: got to take what you can get. Your Mariners front office,

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Speaker 12: and again that's been an ongoing conversation with the fan

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Speaker 12: base here in Seattle, Why isn't the ownership kind of

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Speaker 12: pushing all in doing that one move, those two moves

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Speaker 12: that seems so obvious to everyone else, just to put

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Speaker 12: them over the top. But here they are, you know,

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Speaker 12: they felt like their prospects, we're gonna be a little

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Speaker 12: more valuable here in the summertime. I think that's turned

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Speaker 12: out to be true. Tyler Locklear. It was a big

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Speaker 12: piece in the return for Gino. He really built up

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Speaker 12: his value this year. He's been one of the biggest

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Speaker 12: best sluggers and in the minor leagues at first base here, particularly.

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Speaker 13: Over the last month or so.

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Speaker 12: But yeah, the Mariners, you know, it was obviously a

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Speaker 12: huge talking point all winter here. Trust me, I heard

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Speaker 12: from the fan base every day all the time. Again,

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Speaker 12: it just seems so obvious to the rest of us

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Speaker 12: outside the organization, and the Mariners knew that too. But

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Speaker 12: the ownership is just now willing to pay retail price

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Speaker 12: or not willing to pay sticker price for free agents,

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Speaker 12: and they feel like they get a bargain here with

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Speaker 12: two months left in the season. Instead of paying fifteen

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Speaker 12: million dollars for Gino Suarez, you're paying less than five

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Speaker 12: for yes, two months of service.

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Speaker 13: But they feel like they still.

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Speaker 12: Have enough time left here to maybe make a push,

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Speaker 12: and if they get in the postseason, the Marions have

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Speaker 12: a chance to be one of the toughest outs in

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Speaker 12: the playoffs.

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Speaker 7: All right, I love these moves. I I want to

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Speaker 7: make this one hundred percent obvious.

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Speaker 2: But we have one minute until we got to hit

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Speaker 2: a turn break so quick.

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Speaker 10: No real quick.

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Speaker 7: Genos Warez was let go because he swung and miss

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Speaker 7: too much. They wanted to get away from that. Now

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Speaker 7: they brought him back. Why why if this was their guy,

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Speaker 7: they should have just kept him.

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Speaker 12: Right, Well, he's never been this good. Of course, he's

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Speaker 12: been one of the best sluggers in baseball over the last.

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Speaker 8: He was good, but Seattle. He's always been good, but Seattle.

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Speaker 8: Remember he can't hit bad batters, idold you whatever. The

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Speaker 8: other crowd almost.

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Speaker 13: He lost his starting job in Arizona fourteen months ago.

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Speaker 12: He was he was really scuffling there too, So all

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Speaker 12: credits to Gino for really turning it around and figuring

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Speaker 12: it out. He's thirty four years old now, having a

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Speaker 12: career year, and obviously he's setting himself up for a

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Speaker 12: really nice payday as a free agent, this.

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Speaker 13: Winner, and it couldn't happen to a better guy.

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Speaker 12: I think that's why the Mariners and their players, and

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Speaker 12: their fan base and their front offers are so excited

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Speaker 12: to get him, because he's the perfect fit, perfect guy,

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Speaker 12: a great guy at the right time.

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Speaker 1: Adam, great stuff, Thank you for joining us. And last thing,

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Speaker 1: just thumbs up or thumbs down? Do we have one

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Speaker 1: move left for Seattle? Thumbs up or down?

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Speaker 9: To it?

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Speaker 2: Do they get a bullpen.

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Speaker 13: Arm putting me on the ste here?

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Speaker 14: I'm gonna have down.

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Speaker 13: They're running out of time here? Yeah, probably they're trying.

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Speaker 1: They're trying, but okay, yeah, hey, world, serious contender in

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Speaker 1: my mind, I don't know if I can convince these

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Speaker 1: guys yet, but I'll work on it. Make sure you

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Speaker 1: check out all of Adam's work in Seattle Times. Adam,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for hopping on with us last minute.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk to Faby and Ardy right now from the

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Speaker 1: Athletic about the less great to have you on. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for the time. You can check out all of

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Speaker 1: his work in the Athletic. What what do you have

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Speaker 1: for us on the Dodgers. I mean, they pick up

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Speaker 1: rock Stewart, They did a lot of their work in

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Speaker 1: the offseason. Krats is snoozing about it. I think he'll

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Speaker 1: be good. I mean he's been good for the twin

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Speaker 1: this year. But what do you think so far?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I think the Dodgers spent this much of this

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Speaker 15: offseason because they wanted to avoid having much to do

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Speaker 15: this deadline. I don't think they expected this deadline though,

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Speaker 15: going into this week coming in. I obviously they've gone

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Speaker 15: on their targets. Then sort of the name's flown out there,

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Speaker 15: and I think brox Stewart's the guy that kind of

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Speaker 15: made a lot of sense, especially at that price. They

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Speaker 15: only had to give up James Outman, who really wasn't playing.

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Speaker 15: They haven't given up anyone really from their farm system yet,

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Speaker 15: neither of these deals. And they managed to get at

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Speaker 15: least a couple of interesting arms in rox Stewart and

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Speaker 15: Paul Travasse. But there's still a lot of work to do,

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Speaker 15: and obviously there's the big fish out there still with

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Speaker 15: Stephen quant So we'll see what happens there.

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Speaker 5: I know it's a right, it's not a rivalry. We

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Speaker 5: asked Max Muntsey the Padres and not a rivalry, it's

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Speaker 5: the Giants and Dodgers.

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Speaker 10: But are they looking down?

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Speaker 5: Are they looking down the coast in San Diego and

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Speaker 5: going that team is getting a little too close for comfort?

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Speaker 15: I think they did last year during the DS Like,

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Speaker 15: I think they kind of acknowledged that that was a

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Speaker 15: team that was probably the best team that they faced

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Speaker 15: during that run. And I think Kei and Fernanson kind

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Speaker 15: of told me, like that team was better than last

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Speaker 15: year's Dodgers team.

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Speaker 14: Obviously Dodgers were not.

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Speaker 15: Winning that series, but like that was a team that

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Speaker 15: pushed the Dodgers, and they pushed the Dodgers, especially with

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Speaker 15: their bullpen. I you've seen that now with that, that

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Speaker 15: just kind of reinforces that, and the lineup is even

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Speaker 15: deeper now. That was maybe the one thing you can

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Speaker 15: have to point out is like, all right, maybe the

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Speaker 15: bench is a little bit thin, but yeah, that Padres

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Speaker 15: team they're threatening to push the Dodgers. Who and the

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Speaker 15: division leads only three games at this point. I think

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Speaker 15: you kind of look at it like the Dodgers had

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Speaker 15: to cushion here for a while, but that cushion's not

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Speaker 15: as big as it used to be, so Obviously, the

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Speaker 15: Dodgers have a lot of faith in what they have

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Speaker 15: coming back and what they already have on the roster,

656
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Speaker 15: But Padres don't look like they're going anyway anywhere anytime

657
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Speaker 15: soon the Dodgers.

658
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Speaker 8: We keep hearing about Russia and all these guys that

659
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Speaker 8: the Dodgers might trade.

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Speaker 7: They're not trading any of those guys, are they. Why

661
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Speaker 7: would they trade those guys? I don't I don't see them.

662
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Speaker 7: They have to have other guys they could trade, but

663
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Speaker 7: those two guys to me seem like two guys that

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Speaker 7: they wouldn't want to try unless it would be for

665
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Speaker 7: something huge.

666
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Speaker 15: Yeah, Basically every education I've gotten for like the last

667
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Speaker 15: week and a half has been like, they're not moving

668
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Speaker 15: Dalton Rushing or Alex Freeland. Like Dave Roberts even said

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Speaker 15: on record, I don't see Dalton Rushing moving, which is

670
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Speaker 15: not something you hear on the record at least. So, Yeah,

671
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Speaker 15: I just don't see how they do that unless it's

672
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Speaker 15: for something huge. But I don't think the Doctors necessarily

673
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Speaker 15: can do anything huge at this point.

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Speaker 14: We'll see.

675
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Speaker 15: Obviously, there's still a little bit more than an hour

676
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Speaker 15: until the deadline. Could be the surprise. But yeah, I

677
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Speaker 15: think they have enough depth in the lower levels of

678
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Speaker 15: the miners guys like that, and some interesting arms that

679
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Speaker 15: would make some sense.

680
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Speaker 14: And then we've already seen a couple.

681
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Speaker 15: Of moves off the big league ross, at least the

682
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Speaker 15: big league depth, trading away James Outman and Hunter Producia

683
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Speaker 15: to help address some other.

684
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Speaker 5: Needs, and James Outman was pinch run like that's a

685
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Speaker 5: guy that needs to play, in my opinion, every day

686
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Speaker 5: in the big leagues.

687
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Speaker 10: He showed it is.

688
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Speaker 5: There a need that if they're going to address it

689
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Speaker 5: would be like, Wow, that's the number one need that

690
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Speaker 5: will not only just like be a stop gap till

691
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Speaker 5: this person gets healthy, that starting rotation guy gets healthy.

692
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Speaker 10: Is there what is that need specifically?

693
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Speaker 15: Yeah, I don't think necessarily they're gonna shoot for another believer,

694
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Speaker 15: but if for some reason they go out land like

695
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Speaker 15: another high leverage reliever and then all of a sudden, you

696
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 15: get okay, that bullpen question is kind of solved, or

697
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Speaker 15: if they go out and add a bat because that

698
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Speaker 15: that was sort of the thinking this winner and signing

699
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Speaker 15: Micha All right, even if you have some pitching questions

700
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Speaker 15: and questions about healthy, this is gonna be a lineup

701
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Speaker 15: that's going to bang enough to sort of make up

702
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Speaker 15: for it, and obviously hasn't quite fully played out, especially

703
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Speaker 15: the last couple of months when you've seen the guys

704
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Speaker 15: like Oskar, guys like Freddie Freeman will keep that struggling.

705
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Speaker 15: But if you can get a lineup that's kind of

706
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Speaker 15: doesn't have any holes in it, that's really tough to

707
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Speaker 15: face in October, especially if you can get one or

708
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Speaker 15: two of those guys going. So if they can find

709
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Speaker 15: a bat here in this next hour or so, that

710
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Speaker 15: makes sense, or if they sprobably someone and just add

711
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Speaker 15: another impact arm.

712
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Speaker 7: Don't they have that coming though?

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Speaker 8: Here's when all these guys come back now and Sazaki

714
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Speaker 8: who knows when he's coming back, but when they get

715
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Speaker 8: on and this like another trade deadline because Snow isn't

716
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Speaker 8: still supposed to start this weekend, and then if Sazaki

717
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Speaker 8: comes back, and Kopek comes back and this guy comes back,

718
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Speaker 8: I mean, they have a long list of guys that

719
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Speaker 8: could come back. Isn't that just like the Dodgers will

720
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Speaker 8: make our trade when our injuries get better?

721
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Speaker 14: No, I mean that's what we're what they're saying.

722
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Speaker 15: Obviously, like, you don't know exactly what guys are gonna

723
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Speaker 15: look like once they come back. Obviously they're confident Tanner

724
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Speaker 15: Scott's cann come back, but you don't know what he's

725
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 15: gonna look like.

726
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Speaker 14: You don't know.

727
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Speaker 15: Still it to have Blake trying and sort of get

728
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Speaker 15: back into form. Michael Kopek, Bruce dark Graderol, it's just

729
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 15: a lot of questions and having a certified answer at

730
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Speaker 15: least makes it a lot easier. But yeah, like I

731
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 15: could definitely see the bullpen improving just by proxy up

732
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Speaker 15: guys get pushed out of the rotation and having guys

733
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Speaker 15: like Emma she and maybe be an interesting guy out

734
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Speaker 15: of the pen in October as opposed to well being

735
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Speaker 15: essentially if fit started the rest of the way right now?

736
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Speaker 5: Is this a Dodgers team that has to win the

737
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Speaker 5: division because the Padres all the upgrade everything everybody's until

738
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 5: they start playing games, everybody the Padres are gonna make

739
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Speaker 5: a run at the division? Does it do the Dodgers

740
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Speaker 5: based on the fact that they have guys that just

741
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 5: have extra injury risk, you want to give that time

742
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Speaker 5: to be able to recoup at the end of the season.

743
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Speaker 5: Do you say they have to win the division to

744
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Speaker 5: have a successful postseason run or can they be a

745
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 5: wild card and still make a good run.

746
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Speaker 15: Mean, I think the talent, you can't rule them on

747
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Speaker 15: at any point, but like their team that especially the

748
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 15: last year, Like if they didn't have the first round

749
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Speaker 15: by last year, I don't know where they would be

750
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Speaker 15: just because they were. Remember last year, Freddy Freeman had

751
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 15: just gotten hurt. This is an older veteran ball club.

752
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Speaker 15: I think it's the oldest position player group.

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Speaker 14: In the majors.

754
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Speaker 15: Like, so, yeah, I think any time off definitely helps

755
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Speaker 15: and allows the Dodgers to set up their pitching when

756
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Speaker 15: you're looking at the guy like a Yamamoto or Otani

757
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 15: where you kind of really want to be diligent about

758
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Speaker 15: giving them days off, even during October.

759
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Speaker 14: So yeah, I do think it helps. It helps to

760
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Speaker 14: get the buye helps to get to win the division. Obviously,

761
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Speaker 14: the Padres aren't going to make it easy this year.

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Speaker 2: So we appreciate the time.

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Speaker 8: It's fascinating, especially with the Dodgers kind of sitting on

764
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Speaker 8: the sidelines. Remember they were all in on everybody. It's

765
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Speaker 8: kind of it's fascinating, especially with the team in their

766
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 8: division literally throwing everything out there.

767
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they had a banger trade last year the Dodgers.

768
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Speaker 7: Here's the thing, so did the Padres when they got Scott?

769
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Speaker 7: Remember Adam like the news lost? True. Yeah, here's my

770
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Speaker 7: thing though.

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Speaker 8: The reason that the Padres and these other teams are

772
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 8: doing this because the Dodgers aren't invincible and they smell it.

773
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Speaker 8: They smell blood in the water and they are like,

774
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Speaker 8: we might be able to actually take these guys down

775
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Speaker 8: and we're not afraid of them, and so teams are

776
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Speaker 8: going for it and I love it. Kind of thank

777
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Speaker 8: you to the Dodgers for not being as great as

778
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 8: we thought they might be.

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00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a one hundred and thirty win team.

780
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Speaker 7: I never thought they would never lose a game now

781
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Speaker 7: they are.

782
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Speaker 14: Yeah, hey, well they haven't broken baseball.

783
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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. Thanks for the.

784
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Speaker 14: Time, all right, thanks for having guys.

785
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Speaker 2: So let's ask former front office executive Sack Scott. Is

786
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Speaker 2: he ready to go?

787
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Speaker 1: Great to have you on. We're hot on the meta topic.

788
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Speaker 1: And obviously you are dialed in on this team. You

789
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: know them well and you talk about them on S

790
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Speaker 1: and Y all the time.

791
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Speaker 2: What do you think? Great, they're trade deadline? If this

792
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Speaker 2: is it.

793
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Speaker 9: You know, there's so many prospects, so like to put

794
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 9: an actual grade on it, It's tough because I don't

795
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 9: there's eleven guys.

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Speaker 6: They move so far, I believe, which is but.

797
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Speaker 9: As you guys were talking to you, I don't think

798
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Speaker 9: any of them are going to really burn them. But

799
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Speaker 9: I've done trades before where I thought that the kay

800
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Speaker 9: burns you, So you never know. Yeah, there's I love

801
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 9: that they filled their needs and we're aggressive doing it.

802
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Speaker 9: I mean, I do think when you have a chance

803
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Speaker 9: to win it, and I think in their circumstances, it's

804
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 9: more about they should.

805
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 6: Feel confident they're going to get there.

806
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Speaker 9: So this is more about what you do when you

807
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 9: get there, and to acquire three high leverage believers to

808
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 9: bring in a good, complimentary center fielder to what they

809
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 9: already have.

810
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Speaker 6: I think they filled their needs in a really good way.

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Speaker 1: Well let's go down the line here and let's start

812
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Speaker 1: with the bullpen. I mean, how do you stack up

813
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: this bullpen now with the rest of baseball? How October

814
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: is it? And you know how important is it to

815
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: kind of fill the needs up. They've got the guys

816
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: to get out lefties, including the ones in their own

817
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: division like Harper and Schwarber. They've got the uniqueness of

818
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: a Rogers and then they've got two closers.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I think they are set up as

820
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Speaker 9: well as anyone else. They may have the best bullpen

821
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 9: in the game. I mean, it's really hard to find

822
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 9: flaws in their pen. They got a lot of options.

823
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,959
Speaker 9: The key is just going to obviously is for everyone's health,

824
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 9: and in particular with the Mets. You know their starters

825
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 9: don't go deep into games, or at least haven't. You

826
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 9: know what's going to happen these last couple of months

827
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 9: with play homes. Those are kind of the question marks

828
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Speaker 9: that could have some impact on their bullpen if they

829
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Speaker 9: have to be overused. But you know, on paper, the

830
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Speaker 9: talent they have is just as good as anyone's.

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Speaker 10: That bullpen is going to have to.

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Speaker 5: Unless they get a star because of exactly what you said.

833
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 5: When you go through all their starters, who's getting them

834
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Speaker 5: even if it's a foreig inning game, some of these

835
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 5: guys are coming up against it. Sean and Ia didn't

836
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 5: start the season, Frankie Montas, you know, it's always you know,

837
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Speaker 5: where's he gonna be? How how long is he gonna go.

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Speaker 5: Do they have enough in that bullpen? I get their

839
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 5: bullpen's awesome, the guys they have, but do they have

840
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 5: enough to get all nine innings all twenty seven outs?

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00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 9: Well, I think that's the key is that you know,

842
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 9: they've gotten some guys that shorten the game for them,

843
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 9: but they're also not you know, you also need some

844
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 9: long relievers in today's game, especially when your starters are going,

845
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 9: you know, two times through the lineup and getting pulled

846
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 9: for whatever reason, whether that's their actual limit or philosophically.

847
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Speaker 9: So yeah, it's that's the question. I mean, they're every

848
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 9: team is going to have a flaw. There's no perfect team,

849
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Speaker 9: and I think that's probably the question mark around this

850
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 9: team is what are you getting out.

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00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 6: Of your starters.

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Speaker 9: You don't want to tax your bullpen to the point

853
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 9: where you get in October. You're gonna have to lean

854
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 9: on them even more heavily than typically. You don't want them.

855
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 9: You want them to be ready to go for a long,

856
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 9: a deep run.

857
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 8: We just had this conversation with with said Mullins going

858
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 8: over to the to the Mets. How much does he

859
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 8: improve their outfield in general, not defensively, but also offensively,

860
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Speaker 8: Taylor struggled Tyrone, Taylor struggled here last month or so,

861
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 8: McNeil's been playing center field. How big of an impact

862
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 8: does this have? And in cityfield is a big outfield

863
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 8: compared to camp yards, it is a much larger outfield

864
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 8: to cover.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you want to have good outfield defense in that ballpark.

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Speaker 9: I think he's a good Like I said before, I

867
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 9: think he's a good complimentary piece. Obviously, the offense hasn't

868
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 9: been there. You know, the speeds doubt. You know, he's

869
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 9: got elite speed. Defense can be end of time. But

870
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Speaker 9: you know, he saw him make a great athletic play

871
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 9: the other night. I mean, he has the ability. But

872
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 9: I think what it does is it gives them options. Right,

873
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 9: You've got Taylor's a really good defender. I mean you can,

874
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 9: I know, they McNeil out there, so you can kind

875
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 9: of you know, you only have one shot at this deadline.

876
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 6: There's no August Waivers anymore.

877
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 10: Right, So.

878
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 9: As many quality pieces as you can and then put

879
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 9: the puzzle together as you go. Because you have no injuries,

880
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 9: You're gonna happen, you just don't know where necessarily, And

881
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 9: so this is a good thing.

882
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: Hey, bring on let's four box this crats are there.

883
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm texting you, and you're not responding to me.

884
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: Bring your tryout question to him. See what he says.

885
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 5: He didn't text me I said, I said, it's a

886
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 5: try out between I said, it's a try out between

887
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 5: Taylor Tyrone. Taylor and Cedric Muhens both have zero at

888
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 5: bats right now. Whoever plays the best the rest of

889
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 5: the way gets the job.

890
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's fair.

891
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 9: I mean, you start breaking the season down into these

892
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 9: smaller periods of time.

893
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 6: I mean, that's basically how it is.

894
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 10: Is.

895
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 9: No one could, no team is gonna accurately predict who

896
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 9: is gonna be the best over the next two months

897
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 9: of these guys that you know are solid but flawed players,

898
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 9: and so it's a competition. And they also can match

899
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 9: guys up a little bit differently with this, with these

900
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 9: two guys on the roster. So yeah, I think that's

901
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 9: absolutely right. You're gonna pick your spots with matchups. Mendoza

902
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 9: is gonna have to do that, and you know, probably

903
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 9: ride the hot hand if a guy seems like he's

904
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 9: locked in. I mean I just think, yeah, that's exactly

905
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 9: when you're talking about players of this calendarer where there's

906
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 9: no no one's clearly should have the job handed to them.

907
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 6: They're gonna have to earn it.

908
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 8: Okay, hold up, agree before well crowds is like I was, right, Jack,

909
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 8: Let me ask, Let me let me rephrase the question

910
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 8: into a real question, not like it's a tryout. They

911
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 8: just traded for Cedric Mullins. He's gonna get the majority

912
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 8: of the playing time unless he absolutely crashes. He's gonna

913
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 8: not lose his job right away. No, but he'd have

914
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 8: to absolutely because when they trade for this guy, he's

915
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 8: going to get the majority of the time, at least

916
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 8: for a little bit, right until they say, all right,

917
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 8: well man, maybe Tyrone Taylor is the answer.

918
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

919
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 9: Like I said, I think they'll be you know, I

920
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 9: remember Alex Cora telling me in twenty eighteen. It's really

921
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 9: all about matchups, you know, putting guys in the position

922
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 9: where they can succeed against all this information they're using

923
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 9: to figure out what's the best matchup for these guys

924
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 9: when you're trying to share playing time. This is going

925
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 9: to get the first opportunity for sure. My point, I

926
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 9: guess is just if he doesn't do much with that opportunity,

927
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 9: there may be a quicker hook. It depends on what's

928
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 9: going on. There's a lot of different circumstances at play,

929
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 9: and maybe McNeil gets back in the picture if Cedric

930
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 9: really struggles. But yes, absolutely he's going to get the

931
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 9: first crack at it, and ideally they're hoping that he's

932
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 9: the guy for the rest of the way, at least

933
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 9: against Righty's Zach.

934
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: One more Matt's question, and then we'll finish speaking news

935
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: that I know many of our fans are excited to

936
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: hear about. But also apparently we're talking to the White

937
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: Sox about Luis Robert. So the two part question here

938
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 1: is would you rather have Cedric Mullins or Luis Robert?

939
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 1: And do you agree with the White Sox reported decision

940
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: that they're likely going to hang on to Robert, pay

941
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: him twenty million dollars to be part of next year's team,

942
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: hope that he looks like the twenty three version, and

943
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 1: try to get the upper echelon prospect that they're seeking

944
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 1: that no one wants to give them.

945
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 9: I would have preferred Robert just because I actually think

946
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 9: he's a little better defensively, and you know, there's upside

947
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 9: in the bat, but honestly, I'm not. I mean, he's

948
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 9: had his last seven hundred and fifty plate appearances or

949
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 9: so have been pretty bad, so it's hard to really

950
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 9: that he's going to bounce back to his previous version

951
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 9: of himself. He just maybe kind of where he is now.

952
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 9: I mean, obviously you're going to try everything you can

953
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 9: to get the most out of him. So, you know,

954
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 9: from the Met's perspective, I think I would have preferred him,

955
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 9: but I don't know what the cost was. This may

956
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 9: have been more cost efficient. Owns may fit a little

957
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 9: bit better in some ways with who they already have.

958
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 9: As far as the White Sox perspective, yeah, I don't

959
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 9: really understand why they're holding on to him that set.

960
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 9: They know the market, they know what they've been offered.

961
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 9: I don't know what they've been offered, so you know,

962
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 9: maybe they've seen enough there's enough of a market that

963
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 9: they think it'll be there in the off season, but

964
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 9: I don't really see it, or maybe they just feel

965
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 9: like the offers are just not meeting the bar. I mean,

966
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 9: I don't like to just dump players for the best

967
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 9: deal if the best deal isn't something you like, so

968
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 9: you know, hold on to him hope you know, there's

969
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 9: a price where it's low enough that you just hold

970
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 9: onto him and hope he performs and you can trade

971
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 9: him next.

972
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 6: Year at the deadline or maybe in the off season.

973
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 9: But yeah, that the price would have to be the

974
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 9: offers would have to be pretty poor for me to want.

975
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 10: To do that.

976
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

977
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: The crazy thing to me is I think agin after

978
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: this year and is bat continues to look the way

979
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: it does not the last few weeks, but the last

980
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: ten to fifty played appearances. I don't think he gets

981
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars in the off season if he was

982
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: a free agent. So they're basically so stubborn that they're

983
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: going to hold onto him, overpay him and see if

984
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 1: they can get something else for him in the future.

985
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: It just doesn't make sense. But anyway, last one for you,

986
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: Carlos Correa just got traded back to the Houston Astros

987
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: that had been talked about the last twenty four hours

988
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: or so. We don't know all the details about the

989
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: money everything else, but just wanted to get your reaction

990
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: to the news there. Correa, you know, has had a

991
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: really interesting ride through At one point signing with the

992
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,919
Speaker 1: Giants the Mets, the physical didn't pass for him, ends

993
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: back up with the Twins. They told him they were

994
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: going to add. Then they go through the sale process

995
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: right now, so the Twins are in cell mode. Add

996
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: this all up, and what do you think?

997
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 2: And do you think that Correa still has it because

998
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 2: he's had a down year.

999
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 9: So you know, I don't know the details of his

1000
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 9: medical history. I wasn't with the Mets when they signed him.

1001
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 9: I know, when there were rumors coming out about this

1002
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 9: possibly happening, I thought that's a lot of sense, especially

1003
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 9: for the Twins. I think they need a little bit

1004
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 9: of a reset in some ways. I think he's a

1005
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 9: risky player as he ages and given some of the

1006
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 9: health issues of the past, so moving on from him

1007
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 9: makes some sense for them given where they're at, you know.

1008
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 9: And I think that's a questionable acquisition for youson. Again,

1009
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 9: I don't know all the details. We don't know all

1010
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 9: the details. Will see what the money looks like, what

1011
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 9: the p you know, prospect package if there is one

1012
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 9: going back to the Twins. We'll see what that all

1013
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 9: looks like. To really make a final determination on how

1014
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 9: fair that deal is. But I didn't love that for

1015
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 9: the Astros when I heard the rumor, but I did

1016
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 9: like it for the Twins.

1017
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, well, Zach, thanks for joining us. A lot

1018
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: happening during the ten minutes that we talk. Appreciate the time.

1019
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: Zach's a great follow on Twitter. He breaks down a

1020
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 1: lot of moves and a lot of player evaluation talk

1021
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: and then also you can catch him on SNY as

1022
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: well as Zach Thank you for the time. Thanks guys,

1023
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: trade deadline winners and losers or losers and winners.

1024
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 2: So losers Cubs didn't get a starter.

1025
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 7: Cubs were just name me one team. Are we gonna

1026
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 7: keep going? Now?

1027
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: You could do one. That's a big loser, right.

1028
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 8: Cubs, because because they didn't get I don't I don't

1029
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 8: feel like they needed.

1030
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 7: A start and they didn't get it.

1031
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 1: They're gonna say we picked up Mike's Soroka. That's a starter,

1032
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 1: and you're gonna say not for me in the playoffs, Yep,

1033
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna say we picked up Andrew Kittridge for the bullpen.

1034
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: They're gonna say we picked up Willie Castro for and

1035
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: the grade for them is.

1036
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 7: I'm throwing the Brewers in there.

1037
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 10: Too.

1038
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 7: So the national central to me is weird.

1039
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: How about the Reds to that? And no Central had

1040
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 2: a weird death.

1041
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 8: The Brewers did nothing, the Cubs did minimal, The Reds

1042
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 8: did crazy moves and the other two teams and the

1043
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 8: Pirates were the Pirates.

1044
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 7: They didn't but they why did not trade Andrew?

1045
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 8: Yes, they traded Bednar, but he he's a free agent,

1046
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 8: he's having a great year.

1047
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 7: Trade him.

1048
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 8: They got rid of Brian Hayes with Chelps. But like Santana,

1049
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 8: if you could have got something for him, there's a

1050
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 8: lot of moves there that could have been made that

1051
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 8: they didn't make.

1052
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 2: I would have sold high on Tantana.

1053
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 10: I don't know.

1054
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 7: It's it's it's it's I don't know. They're not central

1055
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 7: to me? Is interesting.

1056
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: And the Cubs did get Taylor Rodgers from the Pirates,

1057
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: two bullpen pieces, Rogers and Kittridge.

1058
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 7: The Pirates, I don't think so.

1059
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: But he could get cut and then picked up.

1060
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: You would think, yeah, okay, so they're your losers, Air Kraft,

1061
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: are you ready for your loser?

1062
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 5: Besides the entire minor league system of the Padres and

1063
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 5: the Twins because they lost all their players, they couldn't

1064
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 5: be bigger losers, more losers. To me, the Red Sox

1065
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 5: are one and a half games up in the wild part.

1066
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 5: They're not even the last wild card team right now.

1067
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 5: Young team that is all piss and ventner. They want

1068
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 5: to go out and win. They play seem like they

1069
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 5: play hard. They seem like they had a lot of

1070
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 5: places they could have really upgraded to make this team

1071
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 5: what it could be another run in the playoffs, and

1072
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 5: the rest of the American League East was really pushing hard.

1073
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 5: You kind of have to keep up with them. But

1074
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 5: the biggest reason why did they get rid of Rafael

1075
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 5: Devers Because they felt like it was going to be

1076
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 5: an upgrade by subtraction. Oh and they saved a lot

1077
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 5: of money. They could have made a big splash because

1078
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 5: there was people moving, There was players moving that were

1079
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 5: not just rentals. They could have gotten into some of

1080
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 5: that money, and to me, they didn't. They got some

1081
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 5: nice pieces. I think they're one of the other big losers.

1082
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought the Tigers should have done more.

1083
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, they did some stuff. Dodgers didn't do much.

1084
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna put the Tigers on the loser board.

1085
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: Charlie Moore in Paul se Waald, Kyle Finnegain, Cody Heuer,

1086
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,720
Speaker 1: Rafael Montero. I mean some of these guys are flyers

1087
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: that might not be on the team in a month.

1088
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: Like Rafael Montero needs to turn it around. It's got

1089
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: a five and.

1090
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 7: A half ra he's been bad for years. That's why he's.

1091
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: Gotten bounced around.

1092
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: Oh, the Astros couldn't wait to cut Baid then he

1093
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: wasn't good on the Braves either.

1094
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 2: Expected Era is good. He's got a good splitter. Yeah,

1095
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: Fineganel help, but he hasn't had a good year either.

1096
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1097
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 2: Just none of those guys to me, look like they're

1098
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 2: going to.

1099
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 5: I think they're in the men. I think they're in

1100
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 5: the met category, not loser met category.

1101
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you're the Tigers and you've been building

1102
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: up for a while, right, they went through a rebuild.

1103
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: Wasn't this the year to strike? American League's kind of weird,

1104
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: just like last year. I mean, look what they did

1105
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: last year.

1106
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 3: I agree.

1107
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 2: I wanted them to get Gino. Yeah, they went for

1108
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 2: Bregman in the offseason. You got a chance to get Gino.

1109
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: For some reason, it wasn't for them.

1110
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: So I put them there. Okay, okay, ready, let's hit

1111
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: trade deadline winners.

1112
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 10: Pew.

1113
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: I think we should let Crats go first because he

1114
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: knew they were gonna win and wore their hat.

1115
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 10: I mean that was my that was my all in moment.

1116
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 5: I was going all in saying, yeah, it was cool

1117
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 5: that the Mason Miller stuff JP sears.

1118
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 10: I didn't know they were going to do what they've done.

1119
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 5: I mean, they have just absolutely shredded everybody at this

1120
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 5: trade deadline going to pan out. I don't think they're

1121
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 5: all going to pan out, no, but it doesn't matter.

1122
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 5: They don't have to all pan out. They addressed every

1123
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 5: area of need. Did they get there because I'm forgetting now,

1124
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 5: did they get their left fielder that they needed?

1125
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 10: The bat?

1126
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 2: Yes, I know it's here. Let me help you. So there.

1127
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 2: The Padres are complicated. We can't go over trade by trade.

1128
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: I think we need to just like look at their

1129
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: roster and go, let's just go position by a position

1130
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: really quick. Let's start a catcher. They needed a catcher.

1131
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: Freddy fer Meed got it boom from the Royals. Good

1132
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: defender can swing it a little bit offensive upgrade boom.

1133
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: There you go. Okay, they needed to fix a DH slash.

1134
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 7: And another bullpen on They got Mason Miller.

1135
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 2: Right, but for DH outfield, they got Ryan O'Hearn and

1136
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:33,959
Speaker 2: Loreo and Ramon Loriano great okay, now starting pitcher JP

1137
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 2: Sears added to the mix, and Michael King he's gonna

1138
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: come back soon.

1139
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 10: And Nestor and they kept Dylan ceas everyone was talking

1140
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 10: about Dylan. They got them all.

1141
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, because aj Preller picked up a bunch of guys

1142
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 2: that don't cost anything. He didn't take on massive money.

1143
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: That was like the big oh, how are they going

1144
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: to navigate this deadline? And he's like, I'm just gonna

1145
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: pick up all league minimum guys and get rid of

1146
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 1: of my entire minor league system and to start fresh

1147
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: next year. So that's what he did. And that bullpen

1148
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: has five eighth ninth inning guys. On most teams, they've

1149
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: got five guys who pitch in the eighth or ninth

1150
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: Estrata is an eighth or ninth inning guy, Jason Adam

1151
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: is an eighth or ninth inning guy, Morey Jane has

1152
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: emerged into an eighth or ninth inning guy. And then

1153
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: you have Suarez and Mason Miller who was picked up

1154
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: as a big.

1155
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 7: I'm gonna watch make another move.

1156
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 5: I'm gonna watch Padres games every night.

1157
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 13: Mhm.

1158
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna be really fun. So they're the winners, but

1159
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: we're doing the segment to pick three.

1160
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 7: I think the Phillies did a nice job. Yankees did

1161
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 7: a good job. Reloaded their bullpen, not only for this

1162
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 7: year but possibly for years to come.

1163
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 2: Who's your second highest winner to the Padres.

1164
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 7: I'm gonna Yankees.

1165
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 14: People aren't like that Yankees, I.

1166
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 7: Think because they did a nice job. I think they

1167
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 7: filled some needs.

1168
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 8: They got Caby hero who can cover for him for

1169
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 8: Volpi if he goes bad, can steal.

1170
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 7: Your base, you know important stolen bases are in the

1171
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 7: World Series in playoffs. Dave Roberts, Oh yeah, they reloaded

1172
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 7: their bullpen. They made their bullpen better with Bednar and

1173
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 7: uh and three three, and they covered for next year.

1174
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 7: Williams and Williams and Weaverley.

1175
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 1: Also work, including the whole trade month. So Ryan mcmannon

1176
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 1: Austin Slater and Amed Rosario to hit lefties.

1177
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 7: Yes, they did a nice job.

1178
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 2: It's pretty good work, all right. I'm gonna get you.

1179
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 7: Royals got Mica Strimsky.

1180
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm gonna give you my winner, okay, mm hmm.

1181
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: Minnesota Twins fans, they're winners.

1182
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, because this team completely cleared up their books, including

1183
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: a big contract in Carlos And I know they're covering

1184
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: a lot of it, but not actually as much as

1185
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 1: you think. Bob Nightingale, Bob by Nightingale, who covers the

1186
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: Twins's They're putting in thirty three million dollars to cover

1187
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: the remaining contract of one oh four over the next

1188
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: three and a half seasons.

1189
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 10: Who so Correa is cost them like twenty million a

1190
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:23,760
Speaker 10: year basically.

1191
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: Okay, so one oh four, right, But so they owed

1192
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: one oh four left? Okay, they cleared seventy one million

1193
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: dollars on the Korea deal alone. So let me tell

1194
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 1: you why Twins fans win. This team's gonna get sold.

1195
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: They just made it easier to sell the team. I

1196
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: know it's a ridiculous thing, but the best thing that

1197
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,479
Speaker 1: can happen to this team is someone else taking over.

1198
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: They desperately need that.

1199
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 7: I played there, Bro.

1200
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: I know, but it's gonna happen.

1201
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 7: Plus years ago, they still have them. They remember they

1202
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 7: were going working at We're gonna, oh, We're gonna sum is.

1203
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 8: Oh boy, you have to have uncle, you know, little

1204
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 8: grandson Joe be part of the ownership.

1205
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 7: They're like, no, we.

1206
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 6: Want our own team.

1207
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna happen.

1208
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 10: Yeah, but what we just traded away everybody? They were

1209
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 10: pissed going into the year.

1210
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: If you told Twins fans, hey, you need to shed

1211
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: your whole roster, but you'll get a new owner, ten

1212
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 1: would say where do I sign new roster?

1213
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 2: New owner?

1214
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: Ten out of ten, I'll sign anywhere? Where do you

1215
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: want me to sign? I'll sign on your but cheet.

1216
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,760
Speaker 1: I don't give a shit. They need a new owner.

1217
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: This is the way to do it. I know it

1218
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 1: sounds painful, but I think they're actually going to get

1219
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: sold this year.

1220
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 7: I hope so.

1221
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 2: Because wait, just to the quick timelines.

1222
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 7: Fans don't listen to them.

1223
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 2: Wait, quick timeline, you're not you're not.

1224
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 7: You should be pissed.

1225
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: Quick timeline twenty twenty three, make the playoffs. Nice year,

1226
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: win a playoff series, a wild card series, and had a.

1227
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 2: Fun divisional series. Right, that's what happened two years ago.

1228
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1229
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,479
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen a team go from

1230
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 2: that to this. The next year they start dumping players

1231
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 2: in payroll, right, I feel like it's a little different.

1232
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 7: When he talks twenty one three dumping people.

1233
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the Pirate the White Sox first started falling apart,

1234
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: the Twins weren't falling apart. They just decided to scale

1235
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: back from what they had, and Twins fans were losing

1236
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 1: their mind, like, what is this.

1237
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 2: We've been waiting for this moment. You even got a

1238
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 2: new ballpark to do this.

1239
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: And they went the other way because the pull out

1240
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: idiot was like, oh, it's not matching up with my

1241
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: revenue whatever, And I think he got enough public pressure.

1242
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 2: That he was like, all right, I'm done with this.

1243
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,919
Speaker 2: My legacy's smashed. Let's sell the team. So all right,

1244
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 2: I just wanted to give you guys a curveball.

1245
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: Really, the padres onres won the trade deadline, Yankeys, Philly.

1246
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 2: As you said, Mets, what about the Metsts Yes, Mullins.

1247
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 5: I was gonna say that would have been after you drop,

1248
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 5: I would say the Mets. I would say, well, I

1249
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 5: didn't meet myself, if that's the case, but not muted.

1250
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 2: Oh my commuting my pack died. What are you talking about?

1251
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 10: That's okay?

1252
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 5: But no, I think the Mets reshaped their bullpen in

1253
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 5: the sense that they got so many different looks now

1254
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 5: and they have I mean, you look at what they.

1255
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 10: Have on paper and you're like, yeah.

1256
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 5: Obviously, there's always the question of how's this person going

1257
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 5: to pitch in New York? How is Ryan Helsley going

1258
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 5: to pitch as not a closer? How is you know,

1259
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 5: how are transitions for guys gonna work? Obviously that can

1260
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 5: be said about anybody's transition to any new team. But

1261
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 5: I really think that they the upgrades that they made

1262
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 5: were very significant.

1263
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 10: I would say they would be third.

1264
00:57:55,200 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 8: You can't disagree, yep.

1265
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 7: Ch