1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. 5 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 3: My name is Matt, my name is Noel. 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 4: They called me Ben. We're joined as always with our 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 4: super producer Alexis code named Dot Holliday Jackson. Most importantly, 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 4: are you. You are here that makes this the stuff 10 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 4: they don't want you to know. We're going to give. 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 3: Some rude, tripped advice to a. 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 4: Fellow conspiracy realist. We're going to learn about how the 13 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 4: nation of Canada agrees with us about some very dire predictions. 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 4: We're going to get introduced to a fringe, very strange 15 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 4: political cabal in the US. I might have a letter 16 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 4: from home if we've got time, But first things first, 17 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 4: for our listener mail program this evening, we got a 18 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 4: We got just a fantastic letter that I think we 19 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 4: all read with avid interest. 20 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: Oh yes, we got a message from lex. This is 21 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: just their experience in a weird situation, and it's right 22 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: up our alley. We think it'll be up yours too. 23 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: So let's get started, guys, what do you say we 24 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: round robin this thing. I'll kick us off here, Lex 25 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 2: says stuff they don't want you to know crewe. Hey, guys, 26 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: I just wanted to start off by saying I'm a 27 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: longtime listener and I love everything you put together. 28 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: Yeah you do, Lex, No, just show you. 29 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: Thank you for that. That's very kind. I'm writing this 30 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: email to share an experience I had with the CIA 31 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: that I think you might enjoy. About a year ago, 32 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: I was working as an investigator for the Department of Labor. 33 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: I've since returned to private industry. When my office received 34 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: a complaint from a contractor at a major CIA campus 35 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: in northern Virginia. As a long term conspiracy realist and 36 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: fan of the show, I could not let this opportunity 37 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: go by. I immediately volunteered to take the case. 38 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 5: For most employers covered in my jurisdiction, I would just 39 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 5: show up an announce to conduct an inspection slash investigation. However, 40 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 5: with the CIA, I suspected that my dol badge wasn't 41 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 5: going to be enough, so with some cooperation from the 42 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 5: complainant and extra digging on my part, I eventually made 43 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 5: contact with the security team for that CIA campus. I 44 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 5: had to provide some information for an expedited background check, 45 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 5: and within a couple of days I was on the 46 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 5: road for a four hour drive from my office to 47 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 5: the incident location. 48 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: Fun fact, I happened to have been listening to. 49 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 5: Your audiobook Oh Thank You at the time, which provided 50 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 5: the perfect on Beyonce for what was to come. 51 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 4: And quick editorial note here before we continued. Lex I 52 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 4: read this with great, great interest and was actually holding 53 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 4: off on right to you until he could share this 54 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 4: on air, So be expectant. It continues, Lex continues. As 55 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 4: I reached the location given to me, I quickly realized 56 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 4: that I was at a dummy location. The GPS took 57 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 4: me to a construction site packed between abandoned buildings, and 58 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 4: there was a guard shack at the entrance of the 59 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 4: construction site and about six security officers armed with machine 60 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 4: guns stepped out of it. Right as I rounded the corner. 61 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 4: The guy who looked to be in charge ordered me 62 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 4: to turn off the car and roll down my window. 63 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 4: After I provided him my driver's license and the name 64 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 4: of the security officer that Lex was supposed to meet, 65 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 4: he told me to turn around and follow a black 66 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 4: suv to the actual facility entrance. I turned the car 67 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 4: around and see the suv waiting on the road for me. 68 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 4: This is when it gets weird. 69 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: I reached for my phone to call my boss and 70 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: let him know I've arrived and things are very cia, 71 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: but my phone, which was just on using the GPS 72 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: and plugged in, was off. I turned it back on, 73 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: but it had no service. I then tried my work 74 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: cell that was also off and had a dead cell signal. Bizarrely, 75 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: both cell phones remained without service while I followed the 76 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: black suv on public roads for about ten minutes. 77 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 5: Eventually we pulled off onto a nondescript road that looked 78 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 5: like some rich guy's driveway and followed that down to 79 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 5: the facilities gate. At the gate, I'm asked to park 80 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 5: my car and meet the security officer I had arranged 81 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 5: with as he would be my escort. I parked the car, 82 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 5: got out, and walked over to him. We officially introduced 83 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 5: ourselves and he reviewed the rules of the site, which 84 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 5: included no electronics for visitors. At this point I realized 85 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 5: that I had my work cell on my person. I 86 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 5: disclosed this to the security officer and told him that 87 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 5: I needed to drop it off in the car. 88 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 4: We're going to paraphrase a little bit here, likes. When 89 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 4: I returned to the car, I tried unlocking it with 90 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 4: a keyfob, but nothing happened. I tried all of the 91 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 4: buttons and the keyfob didn't work at all. I checked 92 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 4: the phone again and saw that it still had no service. 93 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 4: The security officer yelled over to me. I had to 94 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 4: ask if everything is okay. I held back to him 95 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 4: that the car won't unlock, and I think my G 96 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 4: batteries are dead. He just nodded, pulled out his cell phone, 97 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 4: which appeared to be working just fine, and he calls someone. 98 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 4: Within thirty seconds, he tells me try it again, and 99 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 4: suddenly the car unlocks. Curious, as I putting it away, 100 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 4: I checked the cell phone and saw that it now 101 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 4: had service. 102 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: I know that. 103 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 4: Signal jammers are not necessarily new technology, but it was 104 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 4: still spooky to experience what I believe was one. The 105 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 4: rest of the investigation proceeded fairly normally considering, but there 106 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 4: were a few other funny and interesting details I think 107 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 4: are worth sharing. 108 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: First, the CIA staff I met with would only give 109 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: me their first names. I put that in quotes because 110 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: their names were also bland that it was obvious they 111 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: were fake. Everyone was Jack, Jill, Steve, Alex, et cetera. 112 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 2: Similar to the alias names, the email addresses I was 113 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: given were odd. For those that don't know, federal agencies 114 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: use a similar formula. Last name period, middle initial period, 115 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: first name at department and that's the initials of the department, 116 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 2: so like dot gov. So for example, John Sdoe from 117 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: the Department of Labor would have the email Doe dot 118 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 2: s dot John at DOL dot gov. Well, the CIA 119 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 2: guys all gave me we'd Gmail accounts as their official 120 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 2: work emails, and it was clear they had fun with 121 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: the account names. It would be something like a built 122 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: forty year old man with an email address Pixiecandle five 123 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 2: seventy two at gmail dot com. I guess having an 124 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 2: email address that ends in at CIA dot gov is 125 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 2: bad spycraft. 126 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 3: No, for sure. 127 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 5: Another funny detail I think you would appreciate is that 128 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 5: all of the contractors I talked to also used aliases, 129 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 5: but their aliases were a bit more overt. They identify 130 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 5: each other as cryptids. I mean the investigation. I had 131 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 5: formal written statements from Sasquatch, Chupacabra, NeSSI, Mothman, and others. Finally, 132 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 5: an interesting detail I picked up from talking with the 133 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 5: manager of the CIA was that they're having a hard 134 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 5: time recruiting people, not from a lack of applicants, but 135 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 5: from finding people who can pass their background tests. Apparently 136 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 5: the most common cause of disqualification is from music and 137 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 5: textbook hiracy. 138 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: Whoops. 139 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: Anyways, I hope you all found this interesting. Feel free 140 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: to share it on air if you want. Best wishes Lex. Well, 141 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: my goodness, guys, what a message from Lex. 142 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 3: What a story. 143 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: I think the email addresses thing is like one of 144 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: the most fun But the jammers, guys, jamming the signal 145 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: from your your keyfob on your phone to your car 146 00:07:58,400 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: pretty focused. 147 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 4: You know so much for writing Inlex again, this is 148 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 4: really awesome and we appreciate we appreciate the in detailed stuff. 149 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 4: And I've got to tell you, guys, this probably is 150 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 4: going to sound familiar to some of our listeners in 151 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 4: the audience this evening. 152 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 5: Yes, I guess, I just you know, look at to 153 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 5: Lex's point, jammers certainly something we're aware of, but the 154 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 5: precision that play here and the specificity of the various 155 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 5: types of signals and the ability to kind of flip 156 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 5: them on and off. Maybe maybe that is old hat 157 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 5: to people that are more familiar with this cond of tech, 158 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 5: but it seems. 159 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: Pretty interesting to me. 160 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 5: And also the email addresses with the gmails, it kind 161 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 5: of reminds me of those auto generated passwords you'll find 162 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 5: on the back of routers sometimes where it'll be like 163 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 5: weird combinations of words and letters. 164 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 3: Look, I had one years ago that was like. 165 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 5: Large trumpet five seven six, you know, for the password 166 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 5: that was auto generated. So I'm wondering if Pixie Candle 167 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 5: five seven to two was in some way using some 168 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 5: kind of algorithm to like generate weird combos of words 169 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 5: and letters that couldn't be now figured out. 170 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: That's innocuous. Maybe it sounds like that kid even or 171 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: just a young adult, you know, something like that, very weird, 172 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: very weird stuff. It strikes me as odd that they 173 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: would even do those kind of procedures for an official 174 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: investigation by something like the Department of Labor. I don't know, 175 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: that's odd. Like I guess attempting to hide the location 176 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: of where the actual facility is. I guess that's the 177 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 2: reason and in case someone else is tracking that phone 178 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: as it's coming in or something like that. 179 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 5: Kind of reminds me of like taking someone to a 180 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 5: secure location where you have to blindfold. 181 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: Them or something like that. I mean, you know, it's different. 182 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 2: But yeah, that is just really weird to me that 183 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: they would do that to basically other governmental organizations on 184 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 2: official business. All right, well, hey, if that's that's all 185 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: we got, Thank you so much Lex for writing in. 186 00:09:52,280 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: We will be right back with more messages from you. 187 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 5: And we've returned with a bit of conspiracy vacation. A 188 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 5: request came in from a listener. I'm just gonna leave 189 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 5: anonymous because they didn't give a nickname, and I. 190 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: Hope this is helpful. 191 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 5: Asked for a responsive to email, but this was just 192 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 5: too good not to share with everybody. I'm a huge 193 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,239 Speaker 5: fan of the podcast, and you guys have always recommended 194 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 5: things that go along with whatever you're talking about in 195 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 5: that episode. I was hoping to have some recommendations from 196 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 5: you guys for my upcoming trips. I will be driving 197 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 5: from Orlando, Florida to Williamsburg, Virginia for one trip, and 198 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 5: from Orlando, Florida to Gatlinburg Tennessee for another. Maybe you 199 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 5: can also recommend some places in the state of Florida, 200 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 5: where my husband and I live. I'd love for you 201 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 5: guys to reply to this email with them. 202 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 3: I hope this is not a big ass or any 203 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: inconvenience for you. 204 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: Guys. 205 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 5: Can up the amazing work, and I look forward to 206 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 5: the episodes to come. Well, hopefully you'll enjoy hearing. 207 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 3: From all three of us on this one. 208 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 5: I only provided stuff for the first trip, so maybe 209 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 5: we'll save the second one for another time. But hopefully 210 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 5: these are some points of interest. My mind initially, maybe 211 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 5: in bad geography, jumped to Point Pleasant, West Virginia. 212 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, Virginia, Virginias are the same. 213 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 5: Right now, It's about six hours out of the way 214 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 5: to go to Point Pleasant, where the Mothman Museum is, 215 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 5: and we have been to where there's that incredible buff 216 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 5: statue of the Mothman bounce a quarter off of his 217 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 5: metal but really cool little museum and tour, but probably 218 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 5: not for this trip. 219 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 3: A little too out of the way. 220 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,599 Speaker 5: So where I did land was in that route, or 221 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 5: at least what Google Maps kind of created. Is that 222 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 5: route you pass through Savannah, Georgia, which is a really 223 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 5: cool gothic, kind of old worldly kind of city, very 224 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 5: akin to New Orleans in terms of its pirate history 225 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 5: and sort of you know port kind of city vibes, 226 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 5: which comes with a lot of interesting things, including lots 227 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 5: of ghost stories as well as some murders most foul. 228 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 5: And I found a really cool article actually from the 229 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 5: I Think Savannah Visitors Bureau, the six most haunted places 230 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 5: in Savannah that you can actually visit, so you could 231 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 5: do this on your own without even having to employ 232 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 5: a tour And then I'll give you a couple recommendations 233 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 5: for that. The Hamilton Turner In was a site of 234 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 5: filming from the movie Midnight in the Garden of Good 235 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 5: and Evil, and it is said to be a hub 236 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 5: of paranormal activity inside the inn, of people have reported 237 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 5: hearing the sounds of children laughing in billiard balls clicking 238 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 5: around on the upper floors in the night, as well 239 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 5: as sightings of a strange cigar smoking man on the roof. 240 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: Then we also have the Marshall House, which USA. 241 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 5: Today named one of the best haunted hotels in the 242 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 5: US since eighteen fifty one. I didn't even know that 243 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 5: was the thing that USA Today chimed in on what 244 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 5: good to Know since eighteen fifty one, this hotel was 245 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 5: actually each is a hospital several times, and we've seen 246 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 5: that in a lot of the stories that we've told 247 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 5: on this podcast about haunted places that the site of 248 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 5: pain and suffering and illness and tragedy are often seem 249 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 5: to be imbued with some kind of like you know, 250 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 5: energy that remains, whether it be ghosts or just kind 251 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 5: of bad vibes. Check out our episode on vibes. In 252 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 5: one of these instances where the Marshall House was a hospital, 253 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 5: it housed Union soldiers, and then another two times for 254 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 5: the nineteenth century yellow fever epidemics and guests have reported 255 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 5: numerous paranormal encounters such as ghosts in the hallway and again. 256 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: The creepy, the creepiest of ghostly. 257 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 5: Sounds that have children laughing and running down the halls, 258 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 5: as well as faucets turning on and off by themselves. 259 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 3: Highly recommend checking out the rest of this list. 260 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 5: I got to just mentioned the Pirates House, which is 261 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 5: a really cool restaurant, kind of goofy, you know you can, 262 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 5: it's very pirate theme. 263 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 3: Get your pirate cocktails. 264 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 5: They get a little hat you can put on the kids, 265 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 5: but the building itself, while today a super touristy kind 266 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 5: of you know, eatery, does have a bit of a 267 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 5: dark past. Many folks were essentially robbed and taken captive 268 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 5: in this boarding house basement, and they were forced to 269 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 5: serve a life at sea. 270 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 3: So check out this article if you want to see 271 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: some more. 272 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 5: They're also a ton of ghost tours and I can't 273 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 5: not recommend The Mad Cat Tour's true crime pub crawl, 274 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 5: the original Savannah Murder tour, and from their website it 275 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 5: asked you to join them on a twilight true crime 276 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 5: investigation of Savannah's murderous, scandalous, fascinating pass complead with serial killers, 277 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 5: crimes of passion, and compelling unsolved cases with stops at 278 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 5: bars all on the way four bars, Grab yourself some 279 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 5: drinks and hear the sordid history of Savannah, Georgia's true crime, 280 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 5: including a murder that resulted in more than. 281 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: One hundred arrests. What's that about? I don't even know. 282 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 5: I don't want to give too much away, but I 283 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 5: do think this one would be worth booking. 284 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: It sounds awesome. I keep thinking about the sound of 285 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: like pool balls or billiard balls clanking above me if 286 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: I know that there's no one up there to physically 287 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: hit those balls, because it takes, you know, it takes 288 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: a lot of exertion to move those balls. I guess 289 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: I have seen videos of a cat moving billiard balls before, 290 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: but I don't know. It still strikes me as needing 291 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: a lot of kinetic force that if it was a 292 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 2: spirit or ghost or hunting of some sort, it would 293 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: be a powerful one. 294 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 5: Agree and Ben, I just want one more on the 295 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 5: kind of maybe a little flip back around from Williamsburg, 296 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 5: Virginia back to Orlando. Slight changeing route. You'll pass right 297 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 5: through the outer Banks of North Carolina, which in and 298 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 5: of themselves apparently worth the price of admission. But in 299 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 5: the Outer Banks area is the site of the lost 300 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 5: colony of Roanoak, which we have covered here on this 301 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 5: very podcast. 302 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, shut up, crow ten, that's a great call. I 303 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 4: think all of these recommendations are fantastic. We also anonymous. 304 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 4: We are big fans, as you and your significant other 305 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 4: maybe of the Weird Blank series Weird Us. There's one 306 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 4: for every state now Weird Alaska, Weird, Virginia, Weird Florida, 307 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 4: and those books are similar to Atlas Obscure. They're great 308 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 4: guides to things in your area without building out a 309 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 4: full itittererary. There are some things in Gatlinburg that I 310 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 4: think would be of interest to you all. Also in 311 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 4: Pigeon Forge, which is just about twenty minutes away from 312 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 4: Gatlinburg via car there's one that I have not been to. 313 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 4: But we need boots on the ground, folks. We need 314 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 4: someone to tell us whether this is cool. The Alcatraz 315 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 4: East Crime Museum in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee. Yeah, it feels 316 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 4: like it's right up our alley and maybe yours as well. 317 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 3: Anonymous absolutely. 318 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 5: And then just really really quickly as pertains to the 319 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 5: Roanoke situation, there is a museum that has a lot 320 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 5: of artifacts that were left behind by these disappeared colonists. 321 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 3: And just for a quick little bit of background, please 322 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 3: do check out our episode on it. 323 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 5: There were settlers who arrived in this part of North 324 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 5: Carolina in fifteen eighty seven, and in fifteen ninety soldiers 325 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 5: came and found that the place had been entirely abandoned, 326 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 5: leaving only the word crow atoin carved onto one. 327 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: Of the gate posts. 328 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 5: Of the fort as well as crow etched into a tree. 329 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 5: Cro and conspiracy theories have abounded from Native American attacks 330 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 5: to much more nefarious and sinister things like I believe 331 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 5: even like cannibalism or something. There was several real gnarly 332 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 5: ones that were in there, like you know, some sort 333 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 5: of cultish type activity. 334 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 3: And maybe I don't know, do you guys have any 335 00:17:58,680 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: favorite theories? 336 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 5: I know, I think there was some excavation in the 337 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 5: past decade or so that sort of led to a 338 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 5: little bit more of a concrete understanding of what likely happens. 339 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 4: Starvation and privation leading to assimilation with the with the 340 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 4: native people's I think it is probably the best bet. 341 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 3: There you go. 342 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 2: I've got one more shout out, guys. A little while back, 343 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: we had a listener that called in. We talked to 344 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: him a bit, and we purchased some of his maps, 345 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: and I think we are all the proud owners now 346 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 2: of the Map in Black, which is a very large, 347 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 2: oversized map of the United States that shows cryptid sightings 348 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 2: and like hot spots for certain cryptids and haunted places. 349 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 2: Highly recommend it if you can afford it and you 350 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 2: want to check it out. We are not sponsored by them, 351 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: but it's just it's a neat resource to have if 352 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: you're going on one of these trips like this, and 353 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 2: for your second leg of the trip, that might be 354 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: a good way to find some stuff to do. 355 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 5: And to Ben's point about the weird America, so there 356 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 5: are also like Atlas Obscura is really great, and any 357 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 5: kind of roadside oddities. 358 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 3: There's tons of them on these. 359 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 5: Type of coastal drives that would maybe be outside of 360 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 5: the scope of this conversation here, but like I think 361 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 5: you could probably do a little bit of digging and 362 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 5: find some neat places to stop along the way. But 363 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 5: hopefully Savannah is a really cool place to spend a 364 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 5: couple of days even And then outer Banks in general, 365 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 5: I've heard wonderful things about have never been, but it's 366 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 5: apparently quite beautiful in and of itself. And then you 367 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 5: got the added conspiracy bonus of the Roanoke site. 368 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 4: And this may be something we go into more detail 369 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 4: in an email to you, Anonymous, but it will see 370 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 4: on Aeron. I think this applies to everyone. If you 371 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 4: have the time in a road trip in these great 372 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 4: United States, do your best not to take the interstates, 373 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 4: try to take the back roads. It's going to take longer, 374 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 4: but you'll see more stuff. I'm a huge fan of that, 375 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 4: and I'm also you know you have you all have 376 00:19:54,480 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 4: a wealth of amazing weird things to see in your 377 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 4: own locale of Orlando. I'm thinking back years ago. I 378 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 4: believe it was a car stuff episode. I learned about 379 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 4: the singing Runway of Orlando. This is not so much creepy, 380 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 4: it's just really weird if you like urban exploration and 381 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 4: abandoned stuff. In the nineteen seventies, Disney wanted to build 382 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 4: a runway that would be like a peak Disney experience 383 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 4: as soon as you landed or took off, and it 384 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 4: didn't work out spoilers. The runway was shut down and 385 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 4: abandoned and it's technically closed. But if you are if 386 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 4: you get out that way in Orlando and you drive 387 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 4: on this runway which is still around, at a speed 388 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 4: higher than forty five miles an hour, it will play 389 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 4: the song when you Wish upon a Star. 390 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 3: No way, Yes, said. 391 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 5: Oh man, that's pretty neat. What have you run really fast? 392 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 4: I don't know, play it at a slower speed tires 393 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 4: or will it just play like a chopped and screwed version. 394 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 3: I'm wondering. 395 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, let's circuit been that bad boy? Yeah, oh, 396 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 4: there we go, circuit ending. I mean, I love that stuff. 397 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 4: And there's so much I mean, of course, the Kennedy 398 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 4: Space Center. I don't know how it is for people 399 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 4: living in Orlando. I mean it's like Titusville is what 400 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 4: an hour south of Orlando? So is it like how 401 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 4: New Yorkers see the Statue of Liberty every day and 402 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 4: they just never actually visit or you know, how excited 403 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 4: are people about the Space Center? There are so many things. Yeah, 404 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 4: we'll just have to we'll have to email you a list. 405 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 4: And no, I think you did a fantastic job with 406 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 4: those Savannah recommendations. Savannah is a place that has such 407 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 4: beauty and history to it. It is also a very 408 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 4: haunted place, whether or not you believe in ghost because 409 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 4: the past and the present are palum sest. 410 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 5: Well, let's take a quick pause and have a word 411 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 5: more Sponsor and then come back with another mess from you. 412 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 4: All right, we've returned. We're going to give you just 413 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 4: a couple of quick ones here and one thing that 414 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 4: really want the group opinion on, and then a little 415 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 4: a nice little letter from home, So we're beginning ending 416 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 4: with our neighbors to the north. Bob m writes to 417 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 4: us and says, check out the link here, and Bob 418 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 4: provides us a link. The RCMP, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, 419 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 4: Canada's federal police force, created this document that got obtained 420 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 4: by a lawyer through Canada's version of a FOIA request 421 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 4: an Access to Information Privacy actor a TIP request way 422 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 4: better acronym. Parts of it have been heavily redacted. The 423 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 4: audience is not the public. The audience is management of 424 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 4: the RCMP. So this is like an internal memo leak. 425 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 4: And if you want to read this, folks, and go 426 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 4: to ctvnews dot Ca and you can read excerpts of this. 427 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 4: Just check for the article secret RCMP Report Forecast Oblique 428 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 4: Future in Canada by Daniel Otis. And guys, this has 429 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 4: some pretty terrifying stuff in here. It confirms a lot 430 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 4: of things that we have predicted mentioned on this show. 431 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 4: A lot of our fellow conspiracy realists have talked with 432 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 4: us about it, and a ton of our personal friends 433 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 4: in Canada are experiencing this. But it's weird to hear 434 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 4: a government document say it so bluntly that's what we'll say. 435 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 4: Say it bluntly, so like, for instance, it was published 436 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three and it says Canada is reaching 437 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 4: the end of abundance. Future economic forecasts are bleak. 438 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 3: Quote. 439 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 4: The coming periods of recession will also accelerate the decline 440 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 4: in living standards that the younger generations have already witnessed 441 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 4: compared to earlier generations. It goes on to state, quote, 442 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 4: many Canadians under thirty five are unlikely ever to be 443 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 4: able to buy a place to live, Which is that's 444 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 4: kind of weird for the government itself to be saying that, right, a. 445 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: Little bit, just being honest, man. 446 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, but they're not being honest with the public. They're 447 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 4: being honest with the management of the federal police force. 448 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: Well, they're letting them know. Those folks are probably going 449 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: to be a little peeved and watch out. 450 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 451 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 4: Quote, law enforcement should anticipate that these destructive weather patterns 452 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 4: they're talking about, how the climate's going to be ruined 453 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 4: to will affect all facets of government, including damaged infrastructure, 454 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 4: pressure to seed Arctic territory, and more. Social and political 455 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 4: polarization fueled by misinformation campaigns and increasing mistrust for all 456 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 4: democratic institutions. Basically, they told the bosses of the RCMP 457 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 4: and doc please beat me here. I've been trying to 458 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 4: be better at this, but they told the bosses of 459 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 4: the FEDS, the federal police is going to hit the fan. 460 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 4: Be ready, you know what I mean? 461 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I can't. It's weird because I can't 462 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: fault any of this stuff. I see all of this 463 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: coming too. And I and I'm just a lay person 464 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 2: sitting here, you know, in Georgia, well in California right now. 465 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 2: But I yeah, I mean, doesn't it feel like this 466 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: is the future? 467 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 3: Guys? 468 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 4: It does, doesn't it. It feels it feels somewhat, you know, 469 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 4: in a. 470 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 3: Very bleak way. 471 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 4: It feels validating because now it's not just us. We 472 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 4: are not heads of government, but now heads of government 473 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 4: are saying this stuff in an increasingly open way. And you, 474 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 4: because this is out in the public now, you can 475 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 4: read that redacted version of the report. Weirdly enough, if 476 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 4: you look at it looks like a brochure. You know, 477 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 4: it's got a little word bubbles for different categories of 478 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 4: terrible things. 479 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 5: Uh. 480 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's heavily reacted, but it's only Yeah. 481 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 2: Sorry is it? Can you talk more about how the 482 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 2: report was created, like was it Are these experts coming 483 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: through weighing in or are they analyzing stuff that's just 484 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 2: written online. 485 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 4: It's called Whole of Government five Year Trends for Canada. 486 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 4: It's relatively short, it's nine pages, and because it's so redacted, 487 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 4: it's a breeze to read and endeavoring to be positive. 488 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 4: Yet they based this on what they call open source 489 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 4: information from over twenty twenty two and they got this 490 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 4: from law enforcement agencies, government agencies, private industry, private entities 491 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 4: domestic and international. So what they're saying is they read 492 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 4: everything they could that could apply to this. They're not 493 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 4: claiming and maybe this is where the question was going. 494 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 4: They're not claiming to have any top secret information. 495 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like they don't know of specific things that are 496 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 2: to come. They're forecasting what could potentially happen based on 497 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 2: what you know experts are saying and observing. 498 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 4: Right, Like most people currently can't predict the future, but 499 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 4: if you are, if you have driven your car off 500 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 4: a cliff, you can make some assumptions about what's going 501 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 4: to happen next, right, because you know the present factors. 502 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 2: So many of us have accidentally done that, so no 503 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 2: I follow. 504 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 5: The GPS into the lake like Michael Scott happened. 505 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 4: But a good Bob says, it appears to be based 506 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 4: on that open source information. However, the focus and conclusions 507 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 4: are chilling, and that's only the parts they allowed to 508 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,239 Speaker 4: be released, and Bob signs off with Developed Nations had 509 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 4: a good run, I guess, which is, we can't leave 510 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 4: you like that without a dope beat the step two folks, 511 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 4: So we're going to give you, We're going to give 512 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 4: you something else. I think that was validating, hopefully for 513 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 4: a lot of people to hear that some of the 514 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 4: concerns that are coming out and being more and more mainstreamed, 515 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 4: they are real. It's not just a bunch of people 516 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 4: making up alarmist stuff. And I think it's important to 517 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 4: remember that when we when we hear these things in 518 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 4: the future. But to want to give you one more 519 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 4: dark side thing. You guys, remember how Haley introduced us 520 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 4: to that terrifying cult the two Y two's. Yeah, okay, 521 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 4: I think we may have hit a little bit of 522 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 4: a nerve because we're getting introduced to more strange cultic 523 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 4: organizations and that's where Skeptical dark Horse comes in. You 524 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 4: have my permission to read this on air if you wish, 525 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 4: and you call me Skeptical dark Horse. Can you please 526 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 4: do an episode on the soccer group s a c R. 527 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 4: The Society for American Civic Renewal. I'm sure you've likely 528 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 4: heard of this group. 529 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 3: We have not. 530 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 4: Membership is limited to elite Christian, heterosexual right wing nationalists. 531 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 3: Delightful folks. 532 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, final parties with the upcoming election and the group 533 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 4: favoring a particular or an candidate. I think this is 534 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 4: something important to help crack open. Thanks Roy, Do you 535 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 4: guys listen daily? I appreciate you, Skeptical dark Horse. Now, 536 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 4: you know, we were not getting into like the political 537 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 4: ideology divide stuff unless it pertains to conspiracy. And first off, 538 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure none of us had heard of this organization, 539 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 4: right am? 540 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: I correct? 541 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 3: I have not. No, I have no sort of ones 542 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 3: like it. 543 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 4: We're already in no recollection territory. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, 544 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 4: on record testimony, Yeah, the the Society for American Civic Renewal. 545 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 4: We're learning a lot of this from an article that 546 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 4: you hipped us to, Skeptical dark Horse, published in the 547 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 4: Guardian by journalist Jason Wilson, and it is a biography 548 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 4: or character sketch of a sort. It's titled The US 549 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 4: Businessman is want to be Warlord of secret of far 550 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 4: right Men's Network. And it's all about the guy, this 551 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 4: guy named Charles Haywood, who also has financial ties with 552 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 4: another institute, the Claremont Institute. They're weird. The guy Heywood 553 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 4: himself seems to aspire to be a warlord after the 554 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 4: collapse of the current American state. And if you go 555 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 4: to their website, which the Guardian article links, it's like 556 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 4: one page and it says our organization's goal is civilizational 557 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 4: renaissance with strong leadership, committed to family and culture. Film 558 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 4: a little bit Handmaid's Tale. It's a little bit, a 559 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 4: little bit, a little bit. 560 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 2: I'm going through the website now, let's see here. It's 561 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 2: got a weird address. 562 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 4: It really does archive dot. Oh well, this is the 563 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 4: way the Guardian links it. 564 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 3: I think too. 565 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah, I think that's that's so they could 566 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 4: keep it stable in their article. But you can see 567 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 4: the we fal see a nation building great projects of 568 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 4: civic and cultural renaissance, a society with strong leadership, committed 569 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 4: to family and culture, a society that nurtures rather than 570 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 4: rejects virtue, a society that seeks the good and beautiful 571 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 4: and abjures ideology that is sound and fury signifying nothing 572 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 4: like how do you what do you define those words as? 573 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 3: This is. 574 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, slick malarkey, it's yep. There he goes the cenastasia. 575 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 4: So the problem with this, at least in the opinion 576 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 4: of its critics, is that they believe this is something 577 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 4: they're calling palogenetic ultra nationalism, true fascism. In other words, 578 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 4: that's from folks like Heidi Barrack, co founder of the 579 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 4: Global Project on Hate and Extremism, And what they're worried 580 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 4: about is that this group, which is a technically a nonprofit, 581 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 4: maybe involved in creating organized secessionist forces like militias. It 582 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 4: may be there, a may be a militia factory, and 583 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 4: I don't know. 584 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 2: It's got a really cool symbol. 585 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's spend some time on it. 586 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 2: They call it the mark. 587 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 3: Well you describe it. 588 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, That's how I judge my extremist groups is by 589 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 5: the quality of their branding. 590 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, the lower right. I mean, it's like when I'm 591 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:35,959 Speaker 3: picking that a bottle of wine. 592 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 2: You know, I guess what I mean is like I 593 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 2: can I don't know, I can imagine seeing that spray 594 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: painted on walls or you know, emblazoned on a giant 595 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: thing that gets unfurled on the capitol somewhere. 596 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 3: Yikes. 597 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's. 598 00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 3: It is true. 599 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 4: It reminds me of times when I was abroad and 600 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 4: just the nicest neighborhoods and you walk outside and you 601 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 4: see somebody's just covered an area with swastikas and stuff like, Yeah, 602 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 4: it happens, It happens. It could as our power. Robert 603 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 4: Evans says, it could happen here. And this some of 604 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 4: these claims in the article go to Heywood's own I 605 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 4: don't know if it's fantasizing or if it's ambitious, actionable writing, 606 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 4: but he talks about things that he calls armed patronage network, 607 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 4: and they're saying the central authorities breakdown somehow, and so 608 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,479 Speaker 4: you have these franchised militias and then you know, you know, 609 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 4: like a regional warlord, a capo, and then like you know, 610 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 4: a megaboss warlord, which would be Heywood himself. Because usually 611 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 4: when people write stuff like this they're putting themselves in 612 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 4: that top slot. He says the following. At this moment, 613 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 4: I preside over what amounts do then did quite sizable compound, which, 614 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 4: when complete, I like to say accurately, will be impervious 615 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 4: to anything but direct organized military attack. 616 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 3: It requires a group. 617 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 4: Of men to make it work. What I call shooters, 618 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 4: say fifteen able bodied, adequately trained men who can operate 619 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 4: my compound both defensively and administratively. Meanwhile, I have the 620 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 4: personality and skills to lead such a group. I feel 621 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 4: like whatever people say I'm the leader, they're kind of 622 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 4: showing that they're not the leader, you know what I mean, 623 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 4: the personality and the skills. I don't know. We know 624 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 4: that there are a lot of separatist networks out there, 625 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,720 Speaker 4: and they're not necessarily all far right, to be fair, 626 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 4: and they don't always work together. But the question that 627 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 4: the current authorities always ask themselves is how serious are 628 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 4: these people? 629 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:56,439 Speaker 3: Right? 630 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: Like? 631 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 4: How often are they going to go afk away from 632 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 4: keyboard and get out there and do some of the 633 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 4: stuff they're talking about? And I don't know, it feels 634 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 4: like it's it feels like it gets really complicated really 635 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 4: quickly because you don't want to impinge on people's rights, 636 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 4: you know, if they want to live in a commune 637 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 4: and they're not hurting anybody, and you should be able 638 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 4: to do so. But I mean, what's the line? What happens? 639 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 4: Can you just do? You just have to monitor these 640 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 4: people and hope they don't escalate. 641 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 2: Well, we need to join, guys. We can send an 642 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 2: email to membership at s A c R dot us 643 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 2: if we are quote interested in learning more. So, I 644 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 2: think that's the first step. 645 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 4: I'm sure it goes straight to to some people who 646 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 4: just go by James or Joe in certain Virginia. 647 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 2: It has a It is directly forwarded to Pixiecandle five 648 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 2: seven two at gmail dot com. Ah. 649 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, and with that, we want to hear your opinions too, folks. 650 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 4: We want to hear how what the line is between 651 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 4: people's rights or state surveillance. The current US government does 652 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 4: have some very very big and very big and disturbing problems. 653 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 4: Tell us also your favorite off the beaten path, strange 654 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 4: attractions in the back roads your neck of the global woods. 655 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 4: We'll end with one letter from home. Hey, gentlemen, longtime 656 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 4: listener here, just wanted to let you know that you've 657 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 4: all been particularly hilarious recently. I love your quick humor, 658 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 4: easy banter and joyful laughs. Keep being awesome, Chelsea. Thank you, 659 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 4: Chelsea are very very kind. 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