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Speaker 1: The Big Vets on Campus Podcast podcast.

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Speaker 1: Don't you believe.

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Speaker 2: Came them off the field to night.

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Speaker 3: It's not the side of the dog in the fight.

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Speaker 4: It's the side of the fight in the dog.

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Speaker 6: Welcome back to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast presented

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Speaker 6: by bet MGM. I'm your host, Tim Kawanowski of Action Network,

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Speaker 6: joined by BCS themselves, the heartbeat of our college football bridge.

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Speaker 6: That means Brett McMurphy, Colin Wilson and Stucky.

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Speaker 2: We got a full crew.

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Speaker 6: Back talking just kind of a macro cleanup of the

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Speaker 6: regular season here and as some of the bulls are underway,

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Speaker 6: and especially right now some of the some of the

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Speaker 6: bigger news is it's happening off the field with the

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Speaker 6: transfer portal and whatnot. You know, Dylan Gabriel looks like

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Speaker 6: he's going on Oregon, Riley Leonard Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: I could go. The list goes on and on. Brett

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Speaker 2: as we welcome.

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Speaker 6: You back here, ask you first, are there any of

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Speaker 6: these quarterbacks or you know, transfer portal movement that makes

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Speaker 6: you more excited about a team makes you a little

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Speaker 6: bullish and also too, how does this kind of go down?

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Speaker 6: We see a lot of these coaches, you know, whining

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Speaker 6: about you know it costs one to two million for

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Speaker 6: a quarterback, you know how you were talking to me

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Speaker 6: before the show about it just kind of gets slated.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's this guy goes here, now someone else.

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Speaker 6: They don't want to be the backup there they go here.

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Speaker 6: So I'll let you take the floor here, Bret on

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Speaker 6: all things you know, sexy in the portal, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Tim, I mean, you know, obviously guys are moving for

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Speaker 1: the money, but they also want playing time. And like

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Speaker 1: we mentioned, uh, you know, Kyle McCord was talking in Nebraska.

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Speaker 1: Well then Nebraska upgraded, so now Ohio State's Kyle McCord

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Speaker 1: goes to play for the Syracuse University. You know, obviously

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Speaker 1: they want to go where the money's the best situation,

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Speaker 1: but they also don't want to sit on the bench.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think Spencer Sanders, who went to Ole

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Speaker 1: He basically didn't play all year, but apparently he was

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Speaker 1: he was happy with that situation. The one that that

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Speaker 1: to Washington. That's a totally different offense. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: how crazy this is, according to two four seventh sports,

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Speaker 1: I understand there's starting quarterbacks, backups, third teamers. There's one

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Speaker 6: Inside Colin what have you seen in the portal that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it completely depends on the situation. I mean, the

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Speaker 4: next year. Really making a lot of rumbles in the

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Speaker 4: have no stats like Spencer Sanders. Well, to me, that's

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Speaker 4: idea right now. It's I feel like kJ Jefferson is

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's it is fascinating, and I think you

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Speaker 6: you know, you bring up a point where it's all

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's December eighteenth. I don't really look

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Speaker 7: at it next year, but it's every situation is completely different.

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Speaker 7: you get those two together make some hay in the portal.

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Speaker 7: Indiana could be much better than expected. And a team

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Speaker 6: Yeah, honestly, yeah, I think it's exciting to you know,

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Speaker 6: it gives us another element of things to news, of

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Speaker 6: things to chew on. But Suggie is a guy already

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Speaker 6: does so much work. You know, you don't sleep, you're

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Speaker 2: Or just feed the beast here?

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Speaker 8: It is what it is.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, I mean I don't like now the bulls

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Speaker 8: But yeah, it's name sure of the.

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Speaker 6: Beast Brett for you covering it in the way it's evolved,

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Speaker 6: of just it's so much more and so much more

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it gives hope to fan bases. Like

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Speaker 1: Stucky said, you know, Indiana is a team that without

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Speaker 4: And Brett, you would agree that the reason why the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no longer like, well wait till he gets

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Speaker 1: a great example, and it's it's what have you done

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and Brett, just to follow up, if you could,

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Speaker 6: you know, shine some light on the process here, because

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Speaker 2: Does this player in the portal?

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Speaker 6: Does he meet with the coach and then he goes

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Speaker 6: with all the money?

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Speaker 2: Like, is it all at once? How is it all

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Speaker 6: How how is it really work when you're you know,

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Speaker 6: There's a lot of pain points here and challenges. Stucky,

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Speaker 1: And Colin said the reason why because of the conference commissioners.

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Speaker 6: So when all of us are like, yeah, Chip, go Chip,

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Speaker 2: Is that is that the case? Like that, that's where

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it's more I mean, I'll Bret should answer,

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Speaker 4: But Imagine if Keaton Mitchell, Like I mean the timing

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Speaker 4: that you're talking about. Imagine if Keith and Mitchell never

435
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Speaker 4: got anything at East Carolina and then last night he

436
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Speaker 4: would have ended his career in the NFL. That would

437
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Speaker 4: have been the worst case scenario for missing the money.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

439
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Speaker 7: Yeah, so there's some there are so many guys that

440
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Speaker 7: got then got injured or just never made it in

441
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Speaker 7: the pros and there it's got to be so tilting

442
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Speaker 7: to see like just four or five years later and

443
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Speaker 7: they got nothing, and now.

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Speaker 8: These numbers are just going through the roof. It's pretty crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I think that's it's a very good point.

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Speaker 6: Timing is everything, and it leads us to, you know,

447
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Speaker 6: what is ahead for us, and that is eventually this

448
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Speaker 6: twelve team college football playoff. And I was thinking and

449
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Speaker 6: talking with our producer Matt mitchellbo kind of the sustainability

450
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Speaker 6: of the bowl method with all these you know, opt outs,

451
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Speaker 6: and how much of a goose chase is just handicapping

452
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Speaker 6: these teams in bowl games. It's kind of like, thank

453
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Speaker 6: God for gambling, because I don't know who else would be.

454
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Speaker 6: You know a lot of people be throwing their hands

455
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Speaker 6: up going I don't even know who's playing in these games.

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Speaker 2: I kind of can't fall.

457
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Speaker 6: It feels like NBA regular season to a point where

458
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Speaker 6: it's it's like I can't even keep track of who's

459
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Speaker 6: playing colin this. You know, you guys are all older

460
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Speaker 6: than me, and that you grew up with balls really

461
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Speaker 6: mattering and caring about this old season, and I wasn't.

462
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Speaker 6: I kind of missed it. It was when I was

463
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Speaker 6: really young. And so does it, you know, hurt you

464
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Speaker 6: calling to see that these bulls don't mean as much

465
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Speaker 6: unless it came to gambling, and are they Is it

466
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Speaker 6: going to even get worse with the twelve team playoffs?

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Speaker 4: Look, when I was six years old, Arkansas was in

468
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Speaker 4: the Blue Bonnet Ball with coach Lou Holtz and they

469
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Speaker 4: didn't mean to anything to anyone except the people at

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Speaker 4: the School of Arkansas. And I think bowl games are

471
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Speaker 4: always going to matter to the teams that are attending them.

472
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Speaker 4: I never think there's going to be too many, because

473
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Speaker 4: I went through the pandemic and there was you know,

474
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Speaker 4: sometimes no football at all, depending on the conference. So

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Speaker 4: I don't think we're ever going to have enough. In

476
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Speaker 4: my opinion, the sport is growing the people that watch

477
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Speaker 4: it is growing. The terminology is growing, like people are

478
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Speaker 4: getting a different version of the NFL. And I mean,

479
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Speaker 4: wait till people in Europe it was huge, huge appetite

480
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Speaker 4: for the NFL. Wait till they check out college football

481
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Speaker 4: and get involved with that. And you know, I don't

482
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Speaker 4: know how the twelve team playoff is going to work

483
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Speaker 4: at all, especially with all the conferences I assume. And

484
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Speaker 4: this is where the handicap.

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Speaker 9: For next year.

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Speaker 4: If you're looking for a deliverable for next year, which

487
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Speaker 4: I've got to concentrate on here in the offseason, I

488
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Speaker 4: think a ten to two team is going to make

489
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Speaker 4: a twelve team playoff and have a chance to win

490
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Speaker 4: the national title. Now how I translate that to, oh, yeah,

491
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Speaker 4: Oleness has a shot at ten and two, I should

492
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Speaker 4: bet their odds, like well, oddsmakers adjust twelve teams down

493
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Speaker 4: under twenty to one to win the national title is like,

494
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Speaker 4: I mean, I'll be at the national title game in

495
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Speaker 4: Houston the second nugget's done. You know, a couple of

496
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Speaker 4: books in Vegas will start posting national title odds for

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Speaker 4: the following year, and I'm just going to be looking

498
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Speaker 4: for teams above thirty to one that have a shot

499
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Speaker 4: to be two losses on the season. It's going to

500
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Speaker 4: be be a wild offseason from a gambling perspective because

501
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Speaker 4: I think the Heisman comes into this too. Generally you

502
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Speaker 4: have to have a team in the college football playoff

503
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Speaker 4: to have a Heisman contender. Well, both teams are going

504
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Speaker 4: to be in the playoff here, So I'm extremely fascinated

505
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Speaker 4: with where oddsmakers stand in the betting market for college

506
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Speaker 4: football coming after this game in national title in Houston.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they and again so you know they matter for

508
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Speaker 6: us because you know we are we are the diehards

509
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Speaker 6: to feel like, you know, we could be the minority here.

510
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Speaker 6: But you know, Brett is it is this twelve team

511
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Speaker 6: playoff going to accelerate.

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Speaker 2: You know, these other bowls quote unquote not mattering.

513
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Speaker 1: Caim I already don't matter. I mean that's just sad thing.

514
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Speaker 1: I mean, I hate it, and I cover bowls as

515
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Speaker 1: much as anybody. I hate that, but that's that's the reality.

516
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Speaker 1: But by saying they don't matter, yeah, they don't matter

517
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Speaker 1: in the grand grand scheme of the playoff or anything

518
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Speaker 1: like that, they still bring in monster TV ratings. You know,

519
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Speaker 1: the so called worst bowl matchup will still have better

520
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Speaker 1: ratings than the best college basketball matchup. At the same time,

521
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Speaker 1: I think what's gonna happen. You know, currently we have

522
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Speaker 1: forty one bowl games that does not include the national

523
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Speaker 1: title game. The next two years we may drop from

524
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Speaker 1: that forty one number. Maybe they can hold on, but

525
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Speaker 1: when we do, when they do the new bowl contracts,

526
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Speaker 1: which starting three years after the twenty excuse me, twenty

527
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Speaker 1: twenty six season, I think we're gonna drop. We will

528
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Speaker 1: not have forty one bowls because you simply won't be

529
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Speaker 1: able to finance those games. Because the teams that you're

530
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Speaker 1: gonna get, you're gonna The biggest thing is with all

531
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Speaker 1: of the conference realignment, specifically the Big Ten of the SEC,

532
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Speaker 1: obviously the Big Twelve. Also, you're gonna have fewer teams

533
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Speaker 1: that get the six wins. You know, you guys saw

534
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Speaker 1: the schedule release for the SEC some of the other conferences.

535
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Speaker 1: There's some really you know, awesome head to head games

536
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Speaker 1: that we've never seen before. Well, one team is going

537
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: to win and one team's gonna lose. So there's going

538
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Speaker 1: to be a lot more teams that do not get

539
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Speaker 1: bowl eligible and I don't know how many bowls really

540
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Speaker 1: have the stomach to have five and seven teams. And

541
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Speaker 1: if you're further down the pecking order, the Bowl is

542
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Speaker 1: and you don't offer a lot of money, that's what

543
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Speaker 1: you're gonna get stuck with. So yeah, it's gonna matter,

544
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Speaker 1: it's gonna matter less. And also, if we think opt

545
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Speaker 1: outs are bad now for the bowl games, wait until

546
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Speaker 1: next year if you're not in the twelve team playoff,

547
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Speaker 1: because the twelve team playoff is all we're going to

548
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Speaker 1: be talking about. That's all anybody's talking about this year.

549
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Speaker 1: What if we would have had a twelve team playoff

550
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Speaker 1: this year? This is how, this is how the seating

551
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: would have been, What a great situation it would have been.

552
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Speaker 1: And you know, people can argue, well that the regular

553
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Speaker 1: season doesn't matter. The Ohio State Michigan game is not

554
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Speaker 1: an elimination game, and it's it's still going to matter.

555
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Speaker 1: But unfortunately, if you're not in that ty, if you

556
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Speaker 1: don't make that twelve team playoff, I don't know how

557
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Speaker 1: many people are going to play in bowl games. I

558
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: actually have had an executive director of a bowl tell

559
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Speaker 1: me this year they were concerned that some team may forfeit.

560
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: They just may not have enough players, because of opt outs,

561
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: because of the portal, because of injuries, and that's happened

562
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 1: in the past. We just called it COVID. But so far,

563
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: so good. We've still got a ways to go though.

564
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Speaker 4: Quit high bred. You know, it's the Orange Bowl. Both

565
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Speaker 4: Georgia and Florida State are gonna.

566
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Speaker 1: But you know what, call it. It won't be the

567
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Speaker 1: Orange Bowl because that pays too much money. They'll find

568
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Speaker 1: a way to play it, but one of these lesser

569
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Speaker 1: bowls where the payouts not as much. And again, think

570
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Speaker 1: about this, and we talked about Chip Kelly earlier. UCLA

571
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Speaker 1: pulled out of the Holiday Bowl a couple of years ago,

572
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Speaker 1: quote because of COVID issues literally four hours before kickoff.

573
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Speaker 1: That's total bs. Okay, they didn't want to play the game.

574
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Speaker 1: There could have been some COVID, The game could have

575
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Speaker 1: been played, they did not want to play. Well, what happened,

576
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: there was no repercussions, they weren't fined that, there was

577
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Speaker 1: no financial penalty. So it's just kind of like, Okay,

578
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: we decided not to play and we go on our

579
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: merry way. So that's a real that's a real possibility,

580
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: and it's and it's one that keeps ball directors up

581
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Speaker 1: at night because if a team just simply decides we

582
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Speaker 1: can't play, we don't have enough healthy players. Everybody's in

583
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Speaker 1: the portal. There is no repercussions, there is no financial

584
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Speaker 1: penalty against the school, but the bowl obviously takes a

585
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Speaker 1: huge hit financially.

586
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Speaker 4: Let me ask, let me pivot and ask bread a question.

587
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Speaker 4: Why was the decision to give the top four seeds

588
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Speaker 4: next year a home game instead of making them play,

589
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Speaker 4: say in the Dollar General Montgomery Bowl, or play in

590
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Speaker 4: the Vegas Bowl or something, you know, like a I

591
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 4: don't know, something close to home for the team that

592
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Speaker 4: earned the top four, Well, I guess it would be

593
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Speaker 4: the first round, so it would be everybody but the

594
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Speaker 4: first four. But why did they give them home games

595
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Speaker 4: instead of like trying to generate money and playing at

596
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Speaker 4: a neutral site.

597
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Speaker 1: The commissioners that they wanted the playoff to be on

598
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Speaker 1: campus at least the first the first round, the five verse, twelve, six, eleven,

599
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Speaker 1: and so forth, so those guys will get a home

600
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Speaker 1: home game, and then obviously the second round moved to

601
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Speaker 1: the bowls the neutral sides, I think, and I think

602
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Speaker 1: a lot of people agree that when literally one minute

603
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Speaker 1: into that first on campus playoff game next year, Everyone's

604
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Speaker 1: going to say, why isn't every playoff game on campus?

605
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Speaker 1: Except maybe when you get to the title game he

606
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Speaker 1: played a neutral side like the Super Bowl. So you know,

607
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Speaker 1: obviously it brings a lot of means a lot financially

608
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Speaker 1: to these cities too. If you're if you're in South Bend,

609
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Speaker 1: if you're in Madison, Wisconsin or whatever, and you basically

610
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Speaker 1: have it, you have an additional home game, the amount

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Speaker 1: of revenue that's going to bring in. Now, the people

612
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Speaker 1: that are against it are the bold people because that

613
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Speaker 1: hurts their product. They want to have all the playoff

614
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Speaker 1: games in the ball games. And the reasons they bring

615
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Speaker 1: up is, you know, logistics, which to me it's it's

616
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Speaker 1: it's legitimate reasons, like how can you get how are

617
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Speaker 1: you going to be able to get a hotel for

618
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Speaker 1: a visiting team in you know, Madison, Wisconsin with two weeks?

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Speaker 1: Notice you're not or Notre Dame or Birmingham or pick

620
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Speaker 1: any college town you're not. That's a real issue. I

621
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Speaker 1: just look at it as that's an excuse. The bulls

622
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Speaker 1: want the games to stay in the balls because they

623
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Speaker 1: make them. They make more money that way, and when

624
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Speaker 1: they start being moved on campus, then the Bulls become

625
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Speaker 1: less relevant. As far as the six Major balls, the

626
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Speaker 1: New Year six balls, those guys will be fine. They'll

627
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Speaker 1: they'll alternate the semis, the probably the finals coming up

628
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Speaker 1: in a few years. But I think also Colin, when

629
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Speaker 1: a top four team loses the their opening game, which

630
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Speaker 1: will be at a neutral site the first time that happens,

631
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Speaker 1: the head coach will get up at the press conference

632
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Speaker 1: and with them, I'll give it, I'll say, over under

633
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: sixty seconds, he will say, why didn't we play this

634
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Speaker 1: game on our campus like the first round? And then

635
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: that will get everyone thinking, you're right, the first four

636
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: seeds should also get a play on campus. So I

637
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Speaker 1: think that's something to look forward, you know, down the road.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Colin, they finally gave us something good with that,

639
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Speaker 6: and don't ask questions. They finally gave.

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Speaker 2: Us something good.

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Speaker 6: But with those home games, that's I can't even believe

642
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 6: they gave us that. It's fantastic, Stucky, all right, I

643
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 6: want to give you the keys here. Fresno State thirty seven,

644
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Speaker 6: New Mexico State ten in the New Mexico Bowl. Your guy,

645
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 6: not your guy Diego Pavia eleven for twenty five fifty

646
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Speaker 6: eight yards and a pick.

647
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Speaker 2: What say you?

648
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Speaker 7: In the history of the United States, there's never been

649
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Speaker 7: a Ponzi scheme that is not eventually been uncovered by

650
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 7: the Securities in Exchange Commission. And eventually they're all uncovered

651
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 7: and they're exposed. They can only last for so long.

652
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 7: The money stops coming in. You can't pay out the

653
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 7: people that want their money, and someone looks into it

654
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 7: and the rest happened. And I mean the best tweet

655
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 7: I got from this weekend is after that Pavia performance

656
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 7: was burning made off things.

657
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 8: This is fraudulent. So yeah, they were exposed.

658
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 7: Jerry Kill, I couldn't even get my over all I had,

659
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 7: I had the over of that game. They couldn't even

660
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 7: get the fourteen points. They were talking about being in

661
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 7: that Bowl for years, and that's what you get. Then

662
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 7: Jerry Kill is uh after the game, complaining that they

663
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 7: new Mexico wouldn't let them practice on their on their field.

664
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Speaker 8: Maybe Pavia shouldn't appeede on it.

665
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Speaker 1: Ah.

666
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Speaker 7: So yeah, and by the way, the last group of

667
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 7: five episode is up and they gave the They gave

668
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 7: the inaugur Zapi award to Pavia.

669
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Speaker 8: Pretty sure they recorded that on Friday night.

670
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, Jerry Kill said, if I get in trouble, I

671
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 6: don't give a ship. I can go down to Mexico tomorrow,

672
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 6: drink Margarita's and let you all enjoy your life. But

673
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 6: I've got class, obviously. He was not happy that they

674
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 6: New Mexico was at first not letting New Mexico State

675
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 6: use their practice facility because you.

676
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 8: Know of coming on the field class.

677
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: Well. He said that Pavia has been cleaning toilets with

678
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: a toothbrush, So.

679
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 8: Maady, you should have maybe you should have been practicing thrown.

680
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: The football fair enough, Colin, I'll tag you in here.

681
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 2: What you made it?

682
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 8: Fell for it?

683
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 7: He felt for the Ponzi he was. He was one

684
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 7: of the investors that got in late. Money's gone. You

685
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 7: can't get it back because you know, the original founders

686
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 7: the Ponzi scheme got paid out. I know and calibreys.

687
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 7: But anyone who gets in late in the Ponzi scheme,

688
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 7: you just get burned.

689
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 4: As a guy that plays a ton of blackjack. When

690
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 4: I go to Vegas, it's called sunk cost, right, I've

691
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 4: already spent this money to quit trying to double up.

692
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: No.

693
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 4: I mean I when I first heard Jerry Kill go

694
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 4: into that diet tribe, I really thought like, well, this

695
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 4: is the reason why they played so poorly is because

696
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 4: they weren't allowed to practice in the facilities. And then

697
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 4: I read after that that they were allowed to practice.

698
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 4: Jerry Kill was just offended at the fact that they

699
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 4: tried to keep them out of the facilities. And then,

700
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 4: you know, if you dissected with Jerry Kill said again,

701
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 4: it's like I found out about it two months later,

702
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 4: and then he made a comment about somebody else that

703
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 4: should be serving time. There's a lot going on here.

704
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 4: All I know is I immediately went to my FBS

705
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 4: schedules and found out that New Mexico New Mexico State

706
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 4: played each other on September twenty eighth. And you better

707
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 4: believe Jerry Kill is still the coach of New Mexico State.

708
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 4: I'm back on the Ponzi scheme. I don't care who's

709
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 4: on the roster. I don't care how depleted they are

710
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 4: without the Jerry Kill is one of the best coaches

711
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 4: in all of college football, and he will have that

712
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 4: team completely prepared to win that game.

713
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 7: Depleted upgrade upgrade. I'll be on them too, as long

714
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 7: as PABA is not there.

715
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: Hey, Tim, So here's the deal. Stucky talks about the

716
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: Ponzi scheme. Except Stucky, as I documented a couple of

717
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: weeks ago, it went five betting against the Ponzi scheme

718
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: and then he loses on a New Mexico state over.

719
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: So Stucky's just bitter about that. But I threw for

720
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: the fifty yards in a bowl game.

721
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, he's the.

722
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: First person to throw for fifty yards in a bowl game.

723
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 8: No, and he's not the last against the meaningless Bowl.

724
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 8: He's pretty It's pretty rare for that to happen.

725
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 7: He's now just good string quarterbacks in a monsoon for

726
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 7: Miami had a better day.

727
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: You're you're a minus three point three units betting against

728
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: the Ponzi scheme. But seriously, that's what happened. You burnt

729
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: by it.

730
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 8: People bring awareness to it.

731
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: No, you bet against them. If you would have bet

732
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: on them, you would.

733
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 8: Yes, I was a pond.

734
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 7: It was all fraud, and then it got exposed late

735
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 7: I was I'm just telling you, I'm trying to raise

736
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 7: awareness of the public.

737
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: You're a whistleblower, You're a whistle blower.

738
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: Yeah here, but hey, kudos to Stucky for putting together

739
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: the bull tracker that was a big hit on Action

740
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: network dot com and in the Action app. And also

741
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out to Pat Forty

742
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: and the guys of Yahoo Sports for recognizing Stucky and

743
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: the hard work at the Action Network. But Stuck, I

744
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: just I don't know. Have you. Have you told your

745
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: lovely wife that you have officially changed your name to

746
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: Stucky from Action Network who works with Brett McMurphy. Is

747
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: that on your is that on your driver's license?

748
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 7: Now I'm trying to change my Twitter handle. I have

749
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 7: a request out there, so we'll see.

750
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let me know how that goes real quick.

751
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 3: I do want to give a shout out to Stucky

752
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 3: from Action Network works with Brett McMurphy, who did a

753
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 3: painstaking job of running down who's in, who's playing and

754
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: not playing for every Bowl game incredibly.

755
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 1: Nah.

756
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 6: I wanted just as we we you know, to the

757
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 6: end here we will be doing I think one more

758
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 6: episode post national championship, you know, post all all Bowl season.

759
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 6: But if we could just look back, I'll start with you, Colin,

760
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 6: if you have a favorite storyline of something we talked

761
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 6: about on the pod or not on the pod from

762
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 6: from twenty twenty three. Obviously a lot to choose from

763
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 6: from your Arkansas razorbacks from Michigan.

764
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: Is there something that sticks out?

765
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 4: I think my favorite story would be the very first

766
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 4: bet I made of college football season, which was me

767
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 4: driving to the state of Kansas to send a graveyard

768
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 4: to bet Texas to win the Big twelve.

769
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 9: It it takes.

770
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know what if we're if we're

771
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 4: rated third, PG thirteen or n C, I don't know.

772
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 9: It takes a lot of balls to lay bets on.

773
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 4: Texas in the first week of May to say that

774
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,959
Speaker 4: they're going to win a conference championship after so many

775
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 4: failures that they've had. But I think, to me, that

776
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 4: is the best story because that program has been struggling

777
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 4: since two thousand and six to gain any traction on

778
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 4: a national level, and when you are the kind of

779
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 4: person that makes a one hour drive to a different

780
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 4: state to sit in a parking lot to bet on

781
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 4: them to cash a ticket eight months later, I'm really

782
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 4: glad that what I saw in the numbers with Texas

783
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 4: came to fruition. I'm glad everybody was able to hop

784
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 4: on that ticket and get on. And I think Texas

785
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 4: Washington the Sugar Bowl is going to be one of

786
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 4: the best bowls of the entire slate. I think it

787
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 4: goes down to the wire, and I think Texas wins

788
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 4: by one and we see him in the national title.

789
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 6: Hook them, hook them from Colin Stucky. How about you?

790
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 6: It can't be Diego Pavia my wile.

791
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 7: They're my most profitable team. They're the most profitable team

792
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 7: in the country. And I also hit a future on

793
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 7: them eight to one to win the back even with

794
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 7: their backup quarterback, and then hit a ball on them

795
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 7: in the bet on them in the ball with their

796
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 7: third string quarterback.

797
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 8: They couldn't complete a forward pass and it's still covered.

798
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 7: Just found a way with their defense special teams in

799
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 7: a while. If you didn't watch that game, I think

800
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 7: it was on ESPN News. I had to find everyone.

801
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 7: It was like my annual normally that comes up in

802
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 7: college best one, Like, where the hell is ESPN News?

803
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 7: So I had to find ESPN News. But that was

804
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 7: There was fourteen fumbles, the most since the eighties, I think,

805
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 7: because somehow there was seventeen fumbles in the nineteen sixty

806
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 7: four Sugar Bowl.

807
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 8: I don't know Brett. I think Brett was there.

808
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 7: I don't know what happened in that game, but seventeen fumbles, Brett.

809
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 7: Do you remember that game?

810
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 1: That was twenty years after I got out of college,

811
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: so I don't really remember that one that well.

812
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 8: I think you were probably in South Florida.

813
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 7: But yeah, I want to look that game up because

814
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 7: I was like, this has to be a record, and

815
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 7: then they showed they said, now it's the nineteen sixty

816
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 7: four Sugar Bowl. There're seventeen fumbles. So I got to

817
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 7: go find that out. We crazy game, but shout to

818
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 7: maam Ohio start to finish. They were a cash cow

819
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 7: for me, one of my favorite teams ever because like

820
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 7: they just did. They did all that stuff that I've

821
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 7: spent so much time looking into and one of the

822
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 7: reasons why I really liked them, and then they just

823
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 7: it all came to fruition.

824
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 8: So and then to be able to cover in that Bowl.

825
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 7: Game with just they could They had no quarterback, they

826
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 7: there was no chance they could complete a pass, so

827
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 7: and they still found a way to cover. So shout

828
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 7: out twenty twenty three my Ohio Red Hawks aka Spread Hawks.

829
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,959
Speaker 8: Uh, the will always be one of my favorite teams ever.

830
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 4: Chuck Martin the goat now the full goat of covering

831
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 4: Bowl games.

832
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, five and Zer against the spread. Gabbert back and

833
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 7: everyone else on that team.

834
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 8: Is back, so they're going to be a force to

835
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 8: be reckoned with in the back.

836
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 7: So yeah, little teaser to next August Mac Manifesto.

837
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I can't wait for the twenty twenty four

838
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 6: edition of the Miami RedHawks.

839
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: Brett, did you have a favorite memory?

840
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 8: Or?

841
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 2: Like these guys, favorite favorite bets? Is what they chose?

842
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite memory? And or bet?

843
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 8: Get better?

844
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 7: There is only one answer here, I mean, Colin, we

845
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 7: should write it down, but I think I know what

846
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 7: the answer is.

847
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: Actually, I'm sure you don't stuck. I'm just glad. I'm

848
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: just you know, I'm just glad that Colin didn't put

849
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: diesel fuel in his car on his driver hand. Sorry,

850
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: who wouldn't have been able to get there and win

851
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: all that money on Texas? Collin's a lot smarter than

852
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: than thirty three percent of the people on this pod

853
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: or twenty five percent of the people on this podcast.

854
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: I don't really have a favorite memory. Kind of they

855
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: overview the whole thing. And I don't know if people

856
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: kind of realize this, but this year, in a weird way,

857
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: was was actually kind of boring. As far as the

858
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: national seat. We only had two of the preseason top

859
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 1: ten teams that are currently not ranked right now. Usually

860
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: there's more than that. That was UFC and Clemson, And

861
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: of the top fifteen preseason teams was excuse me, Utah

862
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: at number fourteen was the only one that's not currently ranked.

863
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 1: So the Chalk held for most of the year. All

864
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: the heavy Chalk Georgia, Michigan, Ohio side, the usual suspects,

865
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: you know, kind of did what we expected. And really

866
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: the biggest surprise of any team is probably Missouri. They're

867
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: they're number nine right now, the only preseason unranked team

868
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: that's currently in the top ten. But then there they

869
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: will probably fall out with the lost Ohio State, although

870
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: I guess they're favored now with all the opt outs

871
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: with the Ohio State. So that's kind of my kind

872
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: of my view on this is that pretty much, you know,

873
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: Chalk held steady. The teams that we thought we're going

874
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: to be really good, we're really good. And obviously, you know,

875
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: you can kind of mix them up and who got

876
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 1: another playoff? But yeah, that's it. Stuck. So I don't

877
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if you were looking for an Ali

878
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: Gordon reference there or whatever, but.

879
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 10: Uh, there, we're don goal posts. Come on, I don't

880
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 10: you know, it's never been confirmed.

881
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: I was on the goal post, and you know, I'm

882
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna take the high road. I'm not going

883
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: to mention that Oklahoma State won the final bedline until

884
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: like next year and the year after that and the

885
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: year after that and the year after that, so I

886
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: want to I want to pace myself. But thanks for

887
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: bringing back that memory to me. And it's but it sucks.

888
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 1: It's a final. And the other day Oregon, Oregon State

889
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: announced they're going to do a home and home the

890
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: next two years, and I immediately twittered twittered, I immediately tweeted,

891
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: you know, Cowboys and sooners, look there, there is a

892
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: way to do this. You know, you can do that

893
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: if you want. But yeah, unfortunately they're not but stuck.

894
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: Thanks for bringing that up. I appreciate it.

895
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 8: Does that change you think there's no chance that could

896
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 8: that's going to happen?

897
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 9: Does it change after Gundy in the current ad you're out.

898
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't. It's it's this, it's the schools scheduling philosophy,

899
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 1: and that they want to play a one non power five,

900
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: one power five out of conference and then like a FCS.

901
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: So the problem is they both schools have scheduled out

902
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: for the next fifteen years that non conference power five team,

903
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: and there's some huge games Notre Dame, Alabama, Oregon, Colorado,

904
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: and I mean some big games for both schools. So

905
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: the the problem is they're not going to play two

906
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: non conference power fives. They're not going to do that.

907
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: So the option is do you drop future games with

908
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, with the Oregon, with the Nebraska whoever to

909
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: continue Bedlam, or do you keep those marquee games and

910
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: try to fit an o USU game somewhere down the road.

911
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: But I talked to both ads last week in Vegas

912
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: and there's nothing that's going to happen in Bedlam for

913
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: the next probably fifteen years, and unforcing I think it's

914
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: going to go go longer than that. Now they can

915
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: play in a bowl game, but it just won't be

916
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: in the regular season.

917
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 2: Ooh, that sucks. That sucks.

918
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 9: All right, One last question for Brett.

919
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 4: Are Brett, are you and nine week two going to

920
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 4: Arkansas Oklahoma State and still I start calling it stool

921
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 4: Water and your bad side.

922
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: We can check. I'm sure there's plenty of tickets still

923
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: available to that. Who's going to be your well, I

924
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: guess you know he's going to be your squarterback. I

925
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: don't know who's going to be Oklahoma State's quarterback. So yeah,

926
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 1: that's let's see what happens there.

927
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 8: I'll roll with you guys, if you go.

928
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 9: We should make it in action that we're gonna.

929
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 8: I've been to Stillwater there, we got the well. I

930
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 8: really like that. There's one big bar there that I like.

931
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll do it.

932
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 2: Do the pod Monday morning afterwards.

933
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 9: You know, we gotta stop.

934
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 4: We got to stop having all this love for Oklahoma

935
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 4: State and my son who is about to go.

936
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 9: He's at the end of his junior year.

937
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 4: He's narrowed his college decisions down to Oklahoma State and Arkansas,

938
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 4: and I just cannot be given any love to Oklahoma

939
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 4: State these days.

940
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: There's one smart decision there and then there's a junior college.

941
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: So he should go.

942
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: All right around the order one more time.

943
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 6: As I you know, said earlier about you know, bowl season,

944
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 6: and yeah, it's not quite what it was. As you know,

945
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 6: you guys being older than me, I want to hear

946
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 6: if you have a favorite pre college football Playoff era

947
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 6: bowl game, you know that isn't a national championship something

948
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 6: kind of off the map here, Colin. Would it be

949
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 6: that that ball you mentioned arts back when you were

950
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 6: six years old?

951
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 4: No, my favorite ball of all time is TCU organ Alamobile.

952
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 4: I want to say twenty fifteen ish. That was the

953
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 4: one where it I believe, one team scored all the

954
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 4: points in the first half, another team scored all the

955
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 4: points in the second half. It went to overtime, and

956
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 4: then a deadlock under turned into an over. It was

957
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 4: probably the one of the wildest bowl games I've ever

958
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 4: seen in my entire life. And I don't know, maybe

959
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 4: the Cheese of Bowl with and TCU. Boy, they seemed

960
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 4: to all involve TCU, but call and TCU Cheeza Bowl

961
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 4: ran sid rolling on the ground. That game was boring

962
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 4: for fifty eight minutes and then just went berserk. So

963
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 4: TCU's and then last year the semi final with TCU

964
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 4: in Michigan I think all of my favorite bowls include TCU.

965
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 6: The that was the Gary Patterson changes shirt had halftime

966
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 6: Ala mobile if I remember correctly, right, yep, Stucky?

967
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 2: How about you?

968
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 7: How about the two thousand and one g Mac goal.

969
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 7: It was between Marshall and ECU. I'm pulling off the

970
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 7: box score as I'm saying this, if I'm talking slow

971
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 7: because I want to get the exact stats what happened.

972
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 7: But it was probably the craziest Bowl game of all time.

973
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 7: This is when I first I was in high school,

974
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 7: was when I first started betting. Marshall won sixty four

975
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 7: to sixty one in double overtime. East Carolina was up

976
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 7: thirty eight to eight at the half and lost. If

977
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 7: you have a chance, go look at the box score

978
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 7: for that game. In just a wild game.

979
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 8: But do you remember that game? Or Colin ECU Marshall

980
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 8: two thousand and one?

981
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that.

982
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, Chad got me like Chad Pennings and Randy matt

983
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 4: who was in the U.

984
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 2: I feel like they left by then.

985
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, two thousand and one, Marshall wash. I'm trying to think

986
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 7: who the fuck the quarterback was in that game. I

987
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 7: think it was left Wich. I think it was a

988
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 7: left Witch's team and that was.

989
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 8: A wild game.

990
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 7: Also one other Belt Bowl obviously just for betting memories.

991
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 7: I have so many bad beat stories from bowl games.

992
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 7: But the uh the two thousand and eight Sun Bowl

993
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 7: was Oregon State Missouri, no one, no one would ever

994
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 7: remember this game, but it ended three to nothing. There

995
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 7: was twenty punts and Oregon State used their home jerseys,

996
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 7: but Missouri didn't agree to it. So because of that,

997
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 7: Oregon State got penalized in each half, which meant like

998
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 7: they only had two timeouts per half.

999
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 8: Now I think it was Pitt. I think it was Pitt.

1000
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 1: Pitt.

1001
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 8: Was that Pitt Oregon State? Now I gotta look this up.

1002
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 7: As you can see, I didn't prepare for this part

1003
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 7: of the section, but I, as you tell them, very excited.

1004
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 7: I could go on bowl rants for past Oregon State

1005
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 7: won three nothing. Yeah, lowis scoring bowl game since the fifties.

1006
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 7: It was Pitt Oregon State. Yeah, Wandsteed versus Mike Riley

1007
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 7: and uh yeah, I always love those like ridiculous bowl games.

1008
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 7: And then one that's gonna be up there from this year.

1009
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 7: That my Ohio game was ridiculous to watch. It was

1010
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 7: pure bold madness. It was just a slop. The teams

1011
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 7: would fumble every play. But the most famous one for

1012
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 7: me is just the Belt Bowl. Like I could say

1013
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 7: that to any gambler that's been gambling for a long

1014
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 7: time and they'll know. And then you can go off

1015
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 7: on tangents and talk about bowls and bad beats for hours.

1016
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 7: So yeah, plenty of bowld memories, but that ECU Marshall

1017
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 7: was like the first one when I first started betting,

1018
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 7: and I'll always remembered. I was like, Wow, this is wild,

1019
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 7: and kind of really fell in love with college football.

1020
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: Right you last up, this goes way way back, probably

1021
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: before any of you guys were born. The nineteen eighty

1022
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: three Blue Bonnet Bowl in Houston, Oklahoma State versus Baylor.

1023
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: I was a student assistant working in the Oklhoma State

1024
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: Sports Information Office. We were there working the game for

1025
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: a week. It was me and three other student assistants.

1026
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: We were given one hundred dollars total for our meals,

1027
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: and our boss said if we spent more than that

1028
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: to charge everything to the hotel. Well, we spent one

1029
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: hundred dollars in literally the first couple of hours. So

1030
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: now we've got six days left. We charged everything to

1031
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: our hotel room. Yes, there was a hotel bar downstairs.

1032
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: And did I mention about two dozen of my fraternity

1033
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: brothers made the trip from Stillwater to Houston and we

1034
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: were literally charging everything in the bar to our room.

1035
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: OAKLANDA State wins the game. Fast forward to spring break.

1036
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: It's Friday before spring break. Our boss calls us in

1037
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: for a staff meeting and he says, I want to

1038
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: tell you, guys, we really appreciate all the hard work

1039
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: you've done. If not, we wouldn't have spent fucking three

1040
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: thousand dollars on you at the Blue Bonnet Bolt. So

1041
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: that was a highlight for me, was spending a three

1042
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 1: thousand dollars bar tab and if you look at nineteen

1043
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,280
Speaker 1: eighty three prices and compare that to now, it's probably

1044
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: about ten grand. And I was just so happy that

1045
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 1: I wasn't fired for my job working at Oklahoma State.

1046
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: Go pokes.

1047
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 8: That's amazing, That's unbelievable.

1048
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 6: That's a lot of fifty cent PBRs there.

1049
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 2: All right.

1050
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 6: As we get ready to wrap up here, I just

1051
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 6: want to remind you that BBOC is presented by bet

1052
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1053
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1054
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1055
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1056
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1057
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1058
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 6: twenty one or older. Gambling problem called one eight hundred

1059
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 6: gambler one for the road here. Bowl games still underway

1060
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 6: here from the crew, if anyone has a bet they're

1061
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 6: eyeing or something that changed that you're disappointed in lie

1062
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 6: movement and we've had some more quarterback opt outs here Stucky,

1063
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 6: is there a Bowl bet you were eyeing for the

1064
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 6: next week or two or so?

1065
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 8: No, nothing that, nothing that has changed.

1066
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 7: I mean I got some I haven't added anything like

1067
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 7: all the positions that I currently have, So stay tuned to.

1068
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 8: I'll just use it as a teaser.

1069
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,439
Speaker 7: For our upcoming goal previews will be going in depth

1070
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,919
Speaker 7: into every single game. Still wait, there's still so much

1071
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 7: news to come out. I mean, just today you saw

1072
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 7: the Rashes out for Louisville their number one receiver traders

1073
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 7: out for Syracuse.

1074
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 8: So there's still so much news that's gonna come out.

1075
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 7: So I kind of hit what I wanted to hit early,

1076
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 7: and then most other things are going to be as

1077
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 7: we get closer to game time and there's more clarity

1078
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 7: on injuries, opt outs. You might even get suspensions and

1079
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 7: things like that. So nothing to add as of now

1080
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 7: because I'm just not going to add anything until we

1081
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 7: get closer to game time for all of these other games.

1082
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,439
Speaker 2: And that's why you follow him in the award action

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Speaker 2: out Colin Wilson.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Gasparilla Bowl is being played on Friday night,

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Speaker 4: and I could not think of a game that is

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Speaker 4: going to have more points on the slate. There is

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Speaker 4: bad rush defense, and then there's Georgia Tech and UCF.

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Speaker 4: They are both bottom ten and every rushing defensive metric possible,

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Speaker 4: and what you have is Haines King for Georgia Tech,

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Speaker 4: John Rees Plumbley for UCF, and that's.

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Speaker 9: All they are is rush explosive.

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Speaker 4: So the over in this game, I put it in

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Speaker 4: the app around I think sixty four to sixty four

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Speaker 4: and a half and then it ballooned up to sixty seven.

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Speaker 4: I still don't think that's enough points. There is absolutely

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Speaker 4: zero defense going to be played in this game, and

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Speaker 4: there is major offensive advantages from explosiveness and finishing drives.

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Speaker 4: Everything says this game is going to be a Friday

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Speaker 4: night bonanza of points, and I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: Points, points, points, and maybe some quarterback rushing props as

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Speaker 2: we does those trickle out bright anything out of.

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Speaker 1: You, Colin, I will be at that Gasparriilla Bowl. My

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Speaker 1: daughter is, as you know, as a sophomore at UCF.

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Speaker 1: I will be rooting for the points. For you. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna I'm going to fast forward all the way to

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Speaker 1: the semifinals. In the championship, I think Texas is going

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Speaker 1: to win the national title. As Stuck he knows, I

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Speaker 1: have been way wrong on predictions on other Texas teams,

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Speaker 1: like Texas Tech win in the Big Twelve this year,

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Speaker 1: but I did have TCU last year. Last year, but

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Speaker 1: of course I guess technically they didn't win the Big

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Speaker 1: Twelve either, But I just I like Texas. I think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna win the I think they're going to handle

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Speaker 1: Washington and then I think playing in Houston quasi home

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Speaker 1: field advantage. I like the Longhorns to to win the

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Speaker 1: title and then right off to the SEC where the

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Speaker 1: SEC will claim the championship.

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Speaker 6: And Brett, that's funny because when you were when you

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Speaker 6: were gone. Last episode, all three of us, I gave

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Speaker 6: us a quick pick on the national championship.

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Speaker 2: All three of us picked Texas.

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Speaker 6: Sokay, now that's good, great this tradition.

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Speaker 1: I'm well suggest yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's so. That's that's that Texas, Texas, Texas, Texas. That'll

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Speaker 2: do it for us.

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