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Speaker 2: Radio, Brady Quinn, how are we feeling here on this Tuesday, Well.

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Speaker 3: Boots on the ground here in Las Vegas, Nevada. I'm

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Speaker 3: here for the Big Ten media Days. So excited about

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Speaker 3: it's interesting looking at these college football preseason media polls

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Speaker 3: they've got as of right now, Penn State.

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Speaker 4: Is the favorite to win it, no kidding, which.

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Speaker 3: Would be a big year for James Franklin and Penn

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Speaker 4: We're gonna have to go through Ohio State. He's gonna

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Speaker 2: It's the first time we talked about them on this show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, long overdue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right behind Penn State though out of state.

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Speaker 4: And then there's organ as well.

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Speaker 3: So those are kind of the top three teams bidding

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Speaker 2: Who's the most entertaining coach to chat with from the

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Speaker 4: It's Dan Lanning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, he's absolute treat. You could

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Speaker 3: There's just so much energy, so much enthusiasm. The way

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Speaker 4: He's a ton of fun to talk to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he seems like he's a high energy all the time.

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Speaker 2: And remember that whole garbage that was that what was

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Speaker 2: So good good for them, And we got a little

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Speaker 2: All right. So with that being said, from one entertainer

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Speaker 2: to another, the good news for the Dallas Cowboys is

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Speaker 2: Michaeh Parsons, speaking of Penn State, did report to training camp, right.

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Speaker 2: He's there in a place you referred two years ago.

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Speaker 4: Understand why, you know, I'd call it.

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Speaker 2: You never called it? No, No, you mean to tell

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Speaker 2: Well, then maybe I misheard, but that that's what my

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Speaker 2: the good news. Here's what may not be the good news.

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Speaker 2: Jerry Jones had a mic yesterday and he was asked

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Speaker 5: Have you ever heard of any clubs committing to players

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Speaker 2: So there was Jerry Jones expressing all the concerns that

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Speaker 4: Why does he do this?

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Speaker 2: Strikes me. The way he breaks that down would be

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Speaker 3: So I don't know how this plays well for Jerry

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, the great thing about people that

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Speaker 2: you all the things that will go wrong with these contracts.

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Speaker 2: But it seems like every single year we find ourselves

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Speaker 4: It's it's a bold strategy.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about this before in regards to why he

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Speaker 4: These guys as at the top of their position.

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Speaker 2: It's it's the fashionably late tax I call it, you know,

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Speaker 3: It's happening in a training gap. I don't I don't

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Speaker 4: He probably shouldn't be He probably shouldn't be making these decisions.

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Speaker 3: He probably shouldn't be having as many conversations publicly as

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Speaker 2: Like revoke his power.

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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe we should take away his driving privileges. That's

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Speaker 3: Can I handle this? We're getting to that situation. I

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Speaker 2: now like it just seems. But is that is that

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Speaker 2: normal operating procedures to have a conversation about the contract

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Speaker 4: No, that's pretty abnormal.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if anything, the agent and the organization will

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Speaker 4: So this is extremely odd.

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Speaker 3: But it's Jerry Jones and it's Dallas, so I guess

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Speaker 3: To play for a super Bowl, his legacy, all these things,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one though, where I think you actually

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Speaker 3: You know, we've talked about before how the Green Bay

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Speaker 5: I won't make some glory Hill?

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Speaker 2: We started last hour talking about Jerry Jones doing what

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Speaker 8: This one is surprising. I hesitate to get into the detail,

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Speaker 3: Here's the hard for a part from me hearing that,

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Speaker 3: to change it now? Is going to work with Shamar

440
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 3: Stewart and his agent? How does that fear to them?

441
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 3: My bigger question though, is if they sign Trey Hendrickson,

442
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 3: is I had a sign where this thing really could

443
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 3: bleed on or is that a sign where we really

444
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 3: could potentially see Schmar Stewart Look at all options and

445
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,120
Speaker 3: maybe try to go back to college football.

446
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 2: Duke Tobin, who is the Bengals executive, he's basically their

447
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 2: general manager, and he talked and gave his thoughts yesterday

448
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Speaker 2: as to why the deal still hasn't been done with

449
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Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart.

450
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Speaker 9: The negotiations. Yeah, I won't get into all the details

451
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Speaker 9: of it. You know, I don't blame Schamar. He's listening

452
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Speaker 9: to the advice that he's paying for. I don't understand

453
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Speaker 9: the advice. I don't agree with it. I'm not the

454
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Speaker 9: one paying for it. But that's where it is. If

455
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Speaker 9: I thought we were treating him unfairly, it would be

456
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Speaker 9: a different story. But we're treating him fairly with all

457
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Speaker 9: the rest of the draft picks in this year's draft.

458
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Speaker 2: Zach Hiller, the agent for Shamar Stuart, heard that and

459
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Speaker 2: had this statement quote, Duke Tobin has had no involvement

460
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Speaker 2: in this negotiation. It seems to be above his pay grade.

461
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Speaker 8: So it just.

462
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Speaker 10: It just continues to drag on man like this. This

463
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,719
Speaker 10: is why does Shamar Stewart, By the way, does he

464
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 10: have any track record of any arrests of any Is

465
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 10: there anything I don't.

466
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Speaker 2: Know like that? That's why. And you asked the quote

467
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 2: like why why now? I look, I could kind of understand, Hey,

468
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 2: this guy's got a checkered past. There's some stuff there.

469
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 2: We want to make sure that we're going to be

470
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Speaker 2: safe with all this. If there's none of that, what

471
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Speaker 2: am I missing? Like why? It just like it just

472
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: feels like more nickel and dime stuff with them.

473
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Speaker 4: This becomes the issue for every company.

474
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Speaker 3: By the way, this isn't just like exclusive to a

475
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Speaker 3: sports franchise, but when they want to change the language

476
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Speaker 3: within their contracts with their employees and what's guaranteed to

477
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 3: them and what's not based on certain circumstances, and there

478
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 3: comes a point in time where maybe with their legal

479
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 3: counsel once to you know, plant their flag and say

480
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 3: this is the year we're gonna do it. Everyone's gonna

481
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 3: have to agree with it. And in this case, what's

482
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Speaker 3: I guess what's surprising about it is the need for

483
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 3: the position. Like of all the people, I mean, this

484
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 3: is the position that you need the most. You have

485
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 3: one guy retire, you have another guy who you haven't's

486
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 3: who's been extremely productive that's playing way under his market value.

487
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 3: In Trey Hendrickson and he's in his last year of

488
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 3: his deal, still winning on a new deal, and then

489
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 3: you draft Schamar Stewart's replacement and you don't want to

490
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 3: sign him to his contract. So when people want to say, like, oh,

491
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 3: you know, you're just a Bengals hater, No, no, I'm not.

492
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 3: I love Joe Burrow. I love watching him play the game.

493
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 3: This team is one of the most fun teams to watch.

494
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 3: The difficulty is you have to understand the ownerships. They're

495
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 3: cheap and they're not willing to invest to allow this

496
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Speaker 3: team to compete for a Super Bowl. We're gonna have

497
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 3: Pete Prisco on and I'm sure he'll just gonna defend

498
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 3: Duke because he's close to some of these guys and

499
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 3: he yucks it up with them. I'm telling you right now,

500
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 3: he will defend Tobin. He yucks it up with them.

501
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 2: All right, So you've you've done this before, call your shot.

502
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 2: If you ask Pete a question about Duke Tobin, what

503
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: will his response be?

504
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 11: All Right?

505
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 2: If we've got we've got to get the something along

506
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Speaker 2: the line.

507
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Speaker 3: I think I think what we do to make it

508
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 3: fair is we play the sound from Duke Tobin and

509
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 3: we let Pete react, and I'm telling you right now,

510
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 3: he's going to react in a mayor that defends the

511
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 3: Bengals in Duke Tobin. And here's the crazy thing is

512
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 3: because when Joe Burrow was drafted on Draft night, number

513
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 3: one overall, he went out on a limb. He'd said

514
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow would win multiple championships with the Bengals. Now,

515
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 3: I was there with a few other people who heard this.

516
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 3: He claims it was only one but really the only

517
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Speaker 3: reason why question whether or not Joe Burrow would be

518
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 3: able to win multiple Super Bowls with the Bengals. It's

519
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 3: not Joe Burrow. It's the Bengals. And it's because of

520
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 3: decisions like this from their ownership or their front office

521
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 3: and how they handle business. And if you want to,

522
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 3: if you if you want to look at one of

523
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 3: the reasons why the Bengals have underperformed, just look at

524
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 3: the slow starts they've gotten off to in the first

525
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 3: four games of any season.

526
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 4: Go back to last five years.

527
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Speaker 3: Do you want to know how many winning records they've

528
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: had that the first four games at that point three

529
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 3: and one are bet Do you want to know how

530
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 3: many they've had? Zero? And if you extrapolate that even further.

531
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Speaker 3: Compare it to Baltimore for example, the last five years

532
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 3: right there at the top of the division, they've won

533
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 3: every single year. Look at the Steelers by comparison three

534
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 3: out the last five seasons, where five hundred are better.

535
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 3: Oh and then if you look at like Kansas City

536
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 3: for example, the Bills don't worry. Just every single year

537
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 3: they've gotten off to a faster start and I had

538
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 3: a winning record after the first four games. If you

539
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 3: don't think that stuff plays a role or factor in

540
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 3: building momentum or allow these teams to be consistently in

541
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 3: the playoffs, you're dead wrong. And the problem is the

542
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: Bengals don't handle business in the offseason. They're either going

543
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 3: to be coming in late with the rookie and then

544
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 3: figuring out the old Trey Hendrickson hold out, or they're

545
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 3: gonna have to, you know, pay Trey Henderson and will

546
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 3: figure it out how to make the rest work with

547
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 3: samar Stewart. Maybe he comes back, maybe he doesn't, whatever

548
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 3: the case may be. This is one of the many

549
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 3: issues they've botched because what was their weakest link coming

550
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: into the offseason.

551
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 4: It's their defense. Yeah, and they didn't address the most

552
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 4: important position on.

553
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: Defense, and Zach Taylor this offseason has said that they're

554
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: going to get, you know, some playing time in the preseason.

555
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: He thinks that's what the issue is when it comes

556
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 2: to their slow starts, because it has been a problem.

557
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 2: That's why. Look last year when people were saying, well,

558
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 2: Kansas City, they didn't want to play Cincinnati. That's why

559
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 2: they laid an egg in the final week of the season.

560
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 2: Man tough balls. Cincinnati had all those opportunities early on.

561
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 2: They lost games they should have won because they couldn't

562
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: stop anybody, most notably against Baltimore. I think they lost

563
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: twice to Baltimore last year. Like that's on them, Like,

564
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: don't expect somebody else to do your work late in

565
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 2: the season when you had work to do early and

566
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 2: you didn't get it done again, which has always been

567
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: the problem over the past four or five years for

568
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: the Bengals. Now the subject of Trey Hendrickson, Mike Brown

569
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: did also talk about that and he broke down sort

570
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 2: of what negotiations are like with Trey Hendrickson. Here was

571
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 2: the Bengals team president.

572
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 8: We aren't going to trade Trey. We're working to get

573
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 8: Trey signed as we speak here. There are guys over

574
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 8: in the office working to get that. I think it'll

575
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 8: get done. It is the way Trey can be.

576
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 4: We like Trey as a person.

577
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 8: He's a good guy, but when it comes to these negotiations,

578
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 8: and we've been through a few of them with him,

579
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 8: he pushes hard, gets emotional. We never have an easy

580
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 8: time of it. But there's one thing that is consistent.

581
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 8: It always gets done, and I think this one will.

582
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 8: But we'll see. I've been proven wrong before, but I

583
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 8: am pretty confident that we'll get there at the end.

584
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: So there was Don Rickles breaking down the contract negotiations

585
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: with Trey Hendrickson. So tell me that guy didn't look

586
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: like Don Rickles.

587
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 4: He looks a little bit like Don. I'm telling you,

588
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 4: it looks a little bit like Don.

589
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: When they showed Mike Brown on TV yesterday discussing the

590
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: contract situations with Cincinnati, I was like, Oh, that's the

591
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: guy who ran the movie theater on Dirty Work. Like

592
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: I know that guy that was de Niro's right hand

593
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: man in Casino. I know that guy. That's Don Rickles. Ultimately,

594
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: the fact that Mike Brown breaks down the negotiations with

595
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson. The vibe I got from that was yeah, yeah, yeah.

596
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: Trey says this, He says that he gets emotional, but

597
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: we always end up getting it done. If I'm Trey Hendrickson,

598
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, kiss my ass like I'm looking. I

599
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: want to get paid. And if you're not going to

600
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: pay me, trade me, like, send me to somewhere, don't

601
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: make a ridiculous asking price in return. Send me somewhere,

602
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: and let's just move on with our lives if it's

603
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: not gonna happen here. Because if you're Trey Hendrickson, there's

604
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 2: no way he can show up at this point.

605
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 4: Right Uh, it'd be tough too.

606
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: I think he should be dug in and rightfully so,

607
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 3: he's outperformed his contract. They've known now for a couple

608
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,719
Speaker 3: of years. And the worst part about this if your

609
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 3: Cincinnati is there are other trade partners. You know, a

610
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: team like the New England Patriots for a rumor to

611
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: be in connection with the Cincanti Bengals because they needed

612
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 3: an edge rusher and Trey Hendrickson seemed to be a

613
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 3: really good fit for them, and nothing ever came from it.

614
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 3: So if you look at from the Bengals standpoint. If

615
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 3: you're a fan, you're probably at least botched that scenario

616
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 3: as you got his you know, replacement in waiting and

617
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 3: Stewart the first round pick. You could have got some

618
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: draft capital in exchange for him, but instead this whole

619
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 3: thing drug on now where I don't think you're gonna

620
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,719
Speaker 3: get the best to offer for him because of how

621
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: late you are, you know, getting into the season.

622
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: So one Pete Prisco is going to defend Duke Tobin

623
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 2: and the bank.

624
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I'm telling you he's going. Here's the

625
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: weird thing about Pete. Pete's the type where he'll say

626
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 3: things like what's good for me is good for me,

627
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: and try to get all the money you can while

628
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: you're playing. He'll see all these things, and then he'll

629
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 3: immediately contradict himself when he knows a few people from

630
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 3: the front office of certain organizations and he listen, He's

631
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 3: gonna argue with me about this. I'm already telling you.

632
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: He will argue with me about how they're changing the

633
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 3: language this year in the contracts and why the Bengals should.

634
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 4: Be able to do that. He will argue on their behalf.

635
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:53,719
Speaker 4: I'm telling you.

636
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 3: He does this with the guys that are nice to

637
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 3: him that he knows other organizations.

638
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: All right, so you've called your shot. Pete Riscoll will

639
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: cape up for the Cincinnati Bengals coming up next hour.

640
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: It did give me to thinking, though, because if the

641
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: Bengals are this cheap, everybody's got something that they're really

642
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: cheap about in their life, like really frugal about. Can

643
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: you think of on the top off the top of

644
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: your head, just something you're really cheap about, something you

645
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: refuse to pay top dollar for because it just you're

646
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: not doing it no matter what. There's certain things you'll

647
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: splurge on, you're just not doing it with this.

648
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 4: Probably airlines travel.

649
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I've told you my stories of

650
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 3: the round up with Old Southwest or likes flying Spirit

651
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 3: or some of these like discount airlines, mostly because I'm

652
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 3: okay flying on a lesser airline as long.

653
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 4: As it's a direct flight.

654
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: So I would say that's like the number one thing

655
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 3: where like I don't I don't mind you know, sit economy,

656
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 3: sitting in some discount airline whatever, as long as it

657
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: gets me back to my family faster it's a direct flight, I'm.

658
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: Down for that sports betting for me. My wife was

659
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 2: giving me a hard time because I was waiting to

660
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: cash a ticket. I bet on Max Holloway to beat

661
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: Dustin Pourier this weekend in the UFC event, and I

662
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: was waiting to cash the ticket and the return was

663
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 2: fourteen dollars. Literally, I'm standing behind guys who were being

664
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: paid out one hundred dollars bills in front of me

665
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: because they also bet on Max Holloway, these guys from Hawaii,

666
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: and I'm watching them count the cash and I literally

667
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: give my ticket to this guy and he goes fourteen,

668
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: hands me a ten and four ones in return. Oh,

669
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: It's like, why even bother? At that point, I'm like,

670
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just wanted some action I cannot find.

671
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: I cannot get to a point. It's where I'm betting

672
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: any more than say, twenty dollars on a sporting event.

673
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: I just can't do it. I'm very frugal. That's my

674
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: Bengals moment.

675
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 3: By the way, There's a lot of things that you

676
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 3: could actually throw in that category.

677
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 4: For you.

678
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 3: You're the one of more frugal, cheap people, like what

679
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 3: like everything else. Because my truck's a little old you

680
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 3: literally starve yourself and don't eat food just because it

681
00:33:59,280 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: saves you money.

682
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: No, that's not why, but that is that also a

683
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: side perked all that. Yeah, you do, you do end

684
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: up saving a little bit. Here about the wedding, did

685
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 2: you like purposely have it during COVID, So yeah, that

686
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 2: was great. Yeah. So we had the wedding during COVID

687
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: and it was before one of the shutdowns and or

688
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 2: one of the lockdowns, because out out here in California

689
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: there was like four hundred lockdowns. And listen, some people

690
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: are still lockdown, you know, depending on depending on who

691
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: you are. You'll see it from time to time, people

692
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 2: driving in their cars wearing you know, masks. It's it's

693
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: an interesting phenomenon out here. But things are different here

694
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: in California. And they did a lockdown a week before

695
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: our wedding. There was discussions about just canceling it because

696
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: the venue wasn't going to be open. We had a

697
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: Mariachi van hired, they weren't going to be playing like.

698
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 2: There was all sorts of stuff that was happening, and

699
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: I was on the verge of having the discussion with

700
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: my wife about hey, let's just go ahead and just

701
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: reschedule this like it sucks, but you know, I want

702
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: to make or that everybody can be here. And then

703
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: I thought to myself, we're saving like at least a

704
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 2: couple grand on this thing. Brilliant, And so we just

705
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: went through with a little bit of a subpar wedding

706
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 2: during COVID blamed it on the pandemic, for the accommodations

707
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: not being what a lot of people expected them to be.

708
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: We were out. Baby, I think that wedding costs like

709
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: fourteen dollars itself, and put it.

710
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 4: On your honeymoon, so that's always good too.

711
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 2: Well, look, we had yeah, stuff plan that didn't that

712
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 2: didn't go through, but we're hoping to knock that out

713
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: in August, so hopefully we'll get that taken care of.

714
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 2: But look, Lee, do you have anything that you're the

715
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 2: bangles on very frugal on?

716
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 8: Well?

717
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 12: You know me, I'm a well I go for well drinks,

718
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 12: so I'm never going top shelf. So yeah, just the

719
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 12: Well's fine. Whenever the bartender asked you got a call

720
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 12: on that, Well's fine. And then just you know close,

721
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 12: I pretty much just kind of take what falls to me.

722
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 12: I've always I was always the young one of all

723
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 12: the cousins, so I always just got the hand me downs,

724
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 12: so I'm used to that. And then shopping, like grocery shopping,

725
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 12: I never go name brand. I'll go with the all

726
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 12: store brand, store brand all the time.

727
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, as long as it says compared to the active

728
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 2: ingredients on the top. Yeah, my mom taught me that. Yeah,

729
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: you do that all the time. Yeah, just look compared

730
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 2: to the active ingredients. It's just as good. Yeah. Look

731
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 2: that's I mean bag cereal, Like, why do you need

732
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: honey nut cheerios? And you can get toasted o's and

733
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 2: oh yeah.

734
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 4: Toasted oats are great.

735
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: They're not Yes, they are, come on half the price.

736
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 4: Are pretty good.

737
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah those are fine. Lareina. What are you cheap about?

738
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 2: What are you the bangles about?

739
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 4: Usually gas prices.

740
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: I will always find the cheapest place for gas.

741
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 4: Prices, as you will drive around wasting more gas to

742
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 4: find No.

743
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 13: No, but I but I but I like mentally recall

744
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 13: where the cheapest spots are. So like, there's one I

745
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 13: passed by the other day. It's three sixty nine. I

746
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 13: love a good cheap gas.

747
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: Wow, three sixty nine. Yeah, I'm going there this tell

748
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: me where it's at. Yeah, where's that?

749
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 4: That's crazy to hear you guys say that, or in

750
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 4: other parts of the.

751
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 3: Country that's like, you know, premium, Oh yeah, it's it's

752
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 3: ridiculous out here.

753
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 2: Four fifty at least anywhere, Yeah, anywhere you go. But yeah,

754
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: but like you're like, what's like you're saving what ten

755
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: to fifteen cents?

756
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 13: Yeah, but then you know, the difference between cash and

757
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 13: credit is another ten cents on top of that. Think

758
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 13: about it.

759
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 2: I guess it adds up. Get a gas card, you know,

760
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: get something that you'll get money back when you buy gas,

761
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: then you got to pay that back.

762
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 4: And I'm just not responding. Swing back to Jonas for

763
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 4: the other fourteen thousand things that he's really cheap on.

764
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you want to hear about?

765
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 4: Pretty much everything?

766
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: All right? So what else am I really really cheaing.

767
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 4: Ross dress for less?

768
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 11: Yeah?

769
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: You will look to find things at already a discounted store, absolutely, yeah,

770
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 3: and you'll try to find it even more.

771
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: Discount absolutely, Like some people like Nordstrom, you start at

772
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: Nordstrom rack. If you can't find it there, maybe you'll

773
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: have a conversation about going there. There's also if you

774
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: go to a Macy's down below is a place like

775
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 2: on the lower level it's called off It's like Macy's

776
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: Off brand or something like that, and it's all the

777
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: stuff that they're going to be getting rid of that

778
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 2: they have down below. If you go to a Macy's

779
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: and the mall somewhere, so there is that if you

780
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: want to share. Yeah, like there's there's you know, just

781
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: you can find deals. But the Bengals are trying to

782
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: find deals with their draft picks and their best players

783
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 2: on defense, and so I think it's it's the same thing.

784
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: And by the way, there's more. You act like you

785
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 2: don't have some things you're cheap about as well too, Brandon,

786
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: all right, I already named one. Yeah, like airlines. Yeah,

787
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: all right, So I would say, what else do we got?

788
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: You're not going to overpay to golf, like you're not

789
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: You're not going to overpay.

790
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 4: I don't.

791
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know that i'd really I don't

792
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 3: know how to describe that. I probably wouldn't, But at

793
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 3: the same time, I would just not golf. I don't

794
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 3: know if that's a fair comparison. Golf isn't cheap in general,

795
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 3: like if you were one of those people who so

796
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 3: we're gonna say something like that, like Lee, Like Lee

797
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 3: would probably be more in that category than I would be. Look,

798
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 3: i'd go play Pebble or one of the really nice

799
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 3: ones that costs probably a thousand bucks whatever it is

800
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 3: to play, which it's actually way more than that, because

801
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 3: I believe you have to stay on property and that's

802
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,959
Speaker 3: a whole thing from there. But I would, I would

803
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 3: pay good money to go play.

804
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: Of course, like that, what about cars? You pay money

805
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 2: for cars? Top dollar for cars?

806
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 4: No? Yeah, no, so you're not a car guy. No,

807
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 4: I don't really care what I drive.

808
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. That's always been the one that's blown

809
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: my mind. Like people that spend an exorbitant amount of

810
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 2: money on cars, I've never understood. If you've got one,

811
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: that should be enough, Like you've got one to go?

812
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 3: Are you saying, like Mike Brown in the Bengals have

813
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 3: a bunch of beaters in the parking lot, like they're

814
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 3: just like a bunch of like just terrible, Like your

815
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 3: truck would fit in there.

816
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: That's that's I mean, that's rude, But you're probably right.

817
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 2: And look, my truck just reached the three hundred and

818
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: eighty three thousand mark. Okay, so it's an O six

819
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: and I'm proud of it. And I've got one car.

820
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: That's all I need. I've been my wife has gotten

821
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: on me, LeVar has gotten on me. Everybody's gotten on me.

822
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: You need a new one, You need a new one.

823
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 2: But you just drive that thing until you don't drive

824
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 2: it anymore. So listen, everybody's got a little bangles in him.

825
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 2: It just depends on you, know, how you choose to

826
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: do it. Also, I would say this about Lee. Nobody

827
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 2: is better other than maybe my nephew. My nephew's really

828
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: good at this at knowing daily deals where you can

829
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 2: get stuff for cheap. When it comes to food, like

830
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 2: Lee knows, like that should be a segment we do

831
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 2: Lee's Daily Deal. You know every place that's got some

832
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: sort of a deal every single day of the week.

833
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 11: I do.

834
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 12: I do know that, But I'll say that that's kind

835
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 12: of where I do spend my most money is eating out.

836
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: And yeah, I've noticed I've noticed that Lee, because even

837
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 3: at nicer restaurants, does not hold back. He looks for

838
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: an expensive bottle of wine. He's really trying to delve

839
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 3: into it. I've witnessed this by picking up a few meals.

840
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: By the way I've gotten Remember when.

841
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 4: Lee drank that bottle that someone else bought for us

842
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 4: by himself because no one's gonna what nobody's helping me.

843
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 4: That's on you guys.

844
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 2: By the way I have I did receive a text

845
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 2: message from somebody listening to the show who claims to

846
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 2: know Brady Quinn very well. Uh, and they say where

847
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: you go cheap is on wine. You never drink good wine.

848
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 4: But that is true.

849
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: That's that's just what I've been told again. You know,

850
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: I don't wanna uh, I don't want to air anybody

851
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 2: out here who may have said that.

852
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: But you know, well, I know some people sell wine,

853
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 3: so yeah, they're just more upset at home buy wine

854
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 3: from them. But that's what it's more about.

855
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 4: Also, there was a zero appreciation.

856
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 7: Is that zero?

857
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: Zero appreciation for uh? For yesterday's kuts?

858
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: Is that really what the backstory is?

859
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

860
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

861
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862
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863
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: only Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnist or CBS Sports, CBS Sports,

864
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: HQ analyst. If you want that smoke, you can get

865
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 2: it on x at Prisco, CBS. Good morning, Pete. How

866
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Speaker 2: are you feeling good?

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Speaker 4: Guys? How are you We're in today vacation?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, okay, good.

869
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Speaker 3: Probably somewhere down in Florida he might be maybe he's

870
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Speaker 3: passing by a Trey Hendrickson at some point.

871
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, so yeah, well you know what, Trey Henderson will

872
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 11: be in Campsit enough.

873
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: Oh why is that, Pete? I mean, is it because

874
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 3: the Bengals. I mean, let's do this, Pete. Let's set

875
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: you up. We actually have some sound from Duke Tobin

876
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 3: in regards to this, this situation with Shamar Stewart.

877
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 4: Can we talk about that one first?

878
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 11: Go ahead?

879
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 4: Okay, the negotiations.

880
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 11: Yeah.

881
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 9: I won't get into all the details of it. You know,

882
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 9: I don't blame Chamar. He's listening to the advice that

883
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 9: he's paying for. I don't understand the advice. I don't

884
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 9: agree with it. I'm not the one paying for it.

885
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 9: But that's where it is. If I thought we were

886
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 9: treating him unfairly. It would be a different story. But

887
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 9: we're treating him fairly with all the rest of the

888
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 9: draft picks and miss year's draft.

889
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 3: So pete, who's in the right who's in the wrong here?

890
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 3: Is it Shamar Stewart is agent? Or is it Duke

891
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 3: Tobin is the Stati.

892
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 11: Bengals Shamar Stewart is agent? I mean, well, first off,

893
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 11: let's start about Shamar Stewart. He's he's raw as can be.

894
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, he needs all the.

895
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 11: Work in the world to learn how to play football

896
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 11: the right way. Okay, he's got a ton of talent.

897
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 11: He didn't do workouts during his leading up into the

898
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 11: into the draft process, individual workouts because a lot of

899
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 11: the teams asked him to and he.

900
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Speaker 4: Didn't, and the Bengals still drafted them the first round. Surprising.

901
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 11: Well, okay, well the Bengal Now that's that.

902
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 8: Look.

903
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 11: Would I have drafted them in the first round?

904
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Speaker 4: Noh, Bengals did. But the Bengals did.

905
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 11: But he needs to be learning how to play football,

906
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 11: and he's getting banned bytes, he's getting banned by from

907
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 11: his agents.

908
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Bengal, you don't have any take from the

909
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 3: Bengal side of this thing, because because notoriously they're cheap.

910
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 4: Right, we always talk about that, but there's no other.

911
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 11: That would look down to the old Bengals. The Bengals

912
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 11: had a reputation being cheap, thrifty and every every.

913
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 4: Fast in the there's still not about it.

914
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 7: No.

915
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 11: I mean they just went out and doled out tons

916
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 11: of money to their wide receivers, did they not?

917
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 4: Did they?

918
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 11: Though?

919
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: I mean Jamar Chase got the big deal. Higgins, if

920
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: you really break it down, isn't quite as good of

921
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 3: a deal.

922
00:44:55,560 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 11: This sounds like it's coming from a Browns guy.

923
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 4: This sounds this sounds like you're doing. Here's the thing, Pete.

924
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 4: Let me let you in a secret. I predicted that before.

925
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 3: The segment you would do exactly what you're doing right

926
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Speaker 3: now because you always defend the Bengals. In Duke Tobin

927
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Speaker 3: and we talked about a little bit about the history

928
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 3: of you saying Joe Burrow would win multiple Super Bowls

929
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Speaker 3: during in the next ten years when he got drafted.

930
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 11: Said one. I said one. And by the way, if

931
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 11: you would think about that for a second, if I

932
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Speaker 11: really believe that that wasn't making an impact, I think

933
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 11: Stuart should be in there, and Henderson should be in there.

934
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Speaker 3: So okay, so let's let's let's get back to this

935
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Speaker 3: Chamar Stewart. Let's get back on track. What they're doing

936
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Speaker 3: within the language of the contract would be setting a precedent,

937
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: which they have not done previously with any of the

938
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Speaker 3: first round picks. There's other players who are under contract,

939
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Speaker 3: we've redone their deals who don't have this language, but

940
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Speaker 3: they're doing with shamar Stewart. Yet you still want to

941
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Speaker 3: defend the Bengals for choosing Schamar Stewart to do this with.

942
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 11: Look, I think a player needs to get in and

943
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 11: play no matter what. That's my take on it. If

944
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 11: he wastes this whole year or waste half the year,

945
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 11: he's never going to get the money he deserves to get.

946
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 4: So hold on.

947
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 3: So if CBS came to you and they said, hey, Pete,

948
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Speaker 3: we're going to change the language of your contract, and know,

949
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 3: by the way, if you do X, Y and Z,

950
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 3: you might not be owed anything. And by the way,

951
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 3: this has never been done in the past. No one

952
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 3: else has to abide by it within the organization, but

953
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 3: just you, you would sign up for that.

954
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 11: No, but we don't know the specifics, and you don't

955
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 11: know the specifics of the whole deal.

956
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 3: It's actually been it's actually been outlined. It's in regards

957
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 3: to the guarantees past. What's what's usually put in there.

958
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 4: That's how far as we go ahead.

959
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 11: Yeah, who's saying that? By the way, I.

960
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 3: Mean, I don't know Floria's written on this for at length.

961
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Speaker 3: He's got other people who have reported that he's credited to.

962
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 11: Floria is always going to take the Flora's always going

963
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Speaker 11: to take the side of the radical side of the player.

964
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: You know that. Why is that, Pete? What's your problem, Pete?

965
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 11: But I'm just saying he's only going to take this,

966
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 11: He's going to take that side.

967
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 4: By the way it is.

968
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 11: I know, I've known Mike for years. We're going to

969
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 11: stir up up the establishment. That's what he does.

970
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 2: Well, we yeah, we do have. Maybe this is a

971
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: little peak behind the scenes here for Pete Prisco. H.

972
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: This was the draft grade that Pete gave the Bengals

973
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 2: for Shamar Stewart on Draft Night on CBS from Pete

974
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: Prisco the Bengals needed edge help, but Stewart is raw

975
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: and lacks football instincts. There wasn't a lot of production

976
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: to his game. The tape show is a player who

977
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: needs to learn how to play football, but the talent

978
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Speaker 2: is there, so because of that, he needs to show up.

979
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, so so real quick though, let's just go over

980
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 3: this the off season. What would we would you say

981
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 3: is their number one thing they need to do this offseason?

982
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 11: Number one thing who needs to do?

983
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 4: The Bengals? What do they need to do?

984
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 11: Pay the players?

985
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, but what area do they need to improve upon? Defense? Okay?

986
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 4: So they have Trey hendrick Center still extension.

987
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 11: They week one bet Trey Hendrickson shows up and played

988
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 11: the week when, no matter what happened.

989
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 4: So you think they're going to sign the deal.

990
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 11: Well, I think I think whether he signs the deal

991
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 11: or not, he's gonna show up and play.

992
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,959
Speaker 2: Oh you think he's gonna come crawling back?

993
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 11: They all do?

994
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 4: They all do what dogs like? What are you talking about?

995
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 11: All the players who doesn't play anymore? You're foolish. If

996
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 11: you don't play, you're leaving money on the table.

997
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: I mean, he does. It does feel like he's pretty

998
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 2: dug in. And the way Mike Brown kind of broke

999
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: down Trey Hendrickson, it's always like yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,

1000
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 2: it gets really emotional, but we usually always get it done.

1001
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: And I mean Trey Hendrickson's maybe he's on his way

1002
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 2: to go see you. He posted on Instagram. He's driving

1003
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 2: in Florida somewhere. You know, he's got nowhere near the

1004
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 2: Bengals training camp. So you're predicting right now, deal or

1005
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 2: not Trey Hendrickson is in the lineup.

1006
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 11: I'm not saying he's gonna be there in training camp.

1007
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 11: I'm saying in week one he will be lining up

1008
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 11: a defensive ends of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1009
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 4: What about it? I don't know.

1010
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 3: What about I say it's a coin a coin flip

1011
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 3: right now, that's just said. Trade seems kind of likely,

1012
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 3: does not they play?

1013
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 11: He was on the market before and nobody made a

1014
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 11: deal for him. What do you mean did they peddled

1015
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 11: them around before?

1016
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 3: How do you know though, that Cincinnati didn't get enough

1017
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 3: back and return on the trade.

1018
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 11: Well, clearly if they had gotten something in return that

1019
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 11: they wanted to make the deal, they would have made

1020
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 11: the deal. Brady, they didn't get on it. Look, here's

1021
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 11: the deal. He's under contract. He's not happy with his contract.

1022
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 11: He has two choices or three choices. Actually they get

1023
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 11: a new deal done, which is probably gonna happen. By

1024
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 11: the way, it sounds like the bang was move in

1025
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 11: that direction. If it doesn't, he can either play or

1026
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 11: sit and leave money on the table. And when you

1027
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 11: leave money on the table, that goes flying out the

1028
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 11: window and you never see it again. He's not going

1029
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 11: to leave it on the table.

1030
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 3: Pete, how confident do you feel about Joe Burrow winning

1031
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 3: that Super Bowl and the first ten years of his career.

1032
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 11: Well, he's darn close, so he still can do it. Look,

1033
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 11: it's still possible.

1034
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 3: Do you remember when you wanted to concede and you

1035
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 3: wanted to say that when they got to the Super

1036
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 3: Bowl that was an like that, that you were right.

1037
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 4: Do you remember that night where you were willing?

1038
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 11: No, I remember willing, I said, I said he win

1039
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 11: one in ten. I'm not going to back away from that.

1040
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,919
Speaker 4: You said you said multiple too.

1041
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 11: No, I said, I said could win multiple. But he

1042
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 11: was he will win. He will win one. The problem

1043
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 11: is he's playing in an era in that AFC where

1044
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 11: you got Mahomes and he got Allen and he got

1045
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 11: It's tough.

1046
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 4: It's tough but look, the four.

1047
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 11: Best quarterbacks in football are all in the AFC.

1048
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 4: I mean, you could probably even go deeper than that.

1049
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 3: But but if we look at history, look at Carson

1050
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 3: Palmer who also played for the Bengals, that during a

1051
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 3: time where there's a lot of good quarterbacks in.

1052
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 4: The NFC as well. Do you not is that not

1053
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 4: scare you a little bit?

1054
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 3: If Burrow starts looking around, if they can't figure out

1055
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 3: some of these deals on defense and roster construction around Burrow,

1056
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 3: do you not worry that maybe he'll look at elsewhere

1057
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 3: and say, ah, maybe I need to go somewhere else.

1058
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 11: No, No, he's under contract and he's going to play there.

1059
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 11: But by the way, their defense will be better this

1060
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 11: year just making the change of defensive coordinator. Well, I

1061
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 11: think that now Al Golden in there will will make

1062
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 11: that defense better. I think they're going to play more

1063
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 11: man and man. They had a bunch of man a

1064
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 11: man corners, a.

1065
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 4: Lot of pressure to what that a lot of pressure too?

1066
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 11: Yeah, I like, I like to change the defensive coordinator.

1067
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Speaker 11: They'll be better on defense, they'll be better as a

1068
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 11: football team, and they're going to push the Ravens for

1069
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 11: the division title.

1070
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Speaker 2: So uh Pete Prisco with us here on Fox Sports Radio.

1071
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Speaker 2: From one defender looking to get paid to another one

1072
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Speaker 2: looking to get paid. Michael Parsons, what is your best

1073
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 2: guess as to why Jerry Jones always finds himself in

1074
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 2: this spot talking about not paying a guy, yet not

1075
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 2: paying a guy yet kind of dismissing it as well too.

1076
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 2: At training camp yesterday at Oxnard, what's your best guess

1077
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 2: as to why this is the approach the Cowboys take

1078
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: when it comes to paying their players and waiting until

1079
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,280
Speaker 2: after everybody else gets their deal done.

1080
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Speaker 11: I think part of it is Jerry loves it. He

1081
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 11: loves he loves the spotlight of it. I mean, why

1082
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 11: would you have done that deal a year? That makes

1083
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 11: no sense to me. And look as far as getting

1084
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 11: up there and putting the players in the crossairs when

1085
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 11: you're talking about them, that's called negotiations. I mean that happens.

1086
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 11: Players talk about the team, and the team talks about

1087
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 11: the players. Then the deal gets done and everybody comes

1088
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 11: in and shakes hands and they're all happy. I mean,

1089
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 11: that's history. It's been that way for fifty years. It's

1090
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 11: not going to change. But as far as Jerry waiting

1091
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 11: I think I don't understand why he waits. He could

1092
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 11: have got a cheaper deal last year with Parsons, and

1093
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 11: he waits, and now the price has gone up and

1094
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 11: now he's going to pay more. But what does it mean.

1095
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 11: It means people are talking about the Cowboys. It means

1096
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 11: people are talking about Jerry Jones. It means people are

1097
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 11: talking about Michael Parsons. I think he loves it. And

1098
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 11: so it's the same thing with the Deck Prescott contract.

1099
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 11: And he did the same thing, and he waited and

1100
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 11: he finally did it and boom there he went. Oh

1101
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 11: look how happy they are. It's going to be no

1102
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 11: different than Michael Parsons. That deal will get done. It'll

1103
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 11: be happy, Parsons will be happy, and on they go.

1104
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 3: Pete, as we're looking at just heading into training camp

1105
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 3: for a lot of these teams, is there an under

1106
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 3: the radar team that you you got your eye on

1107
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 3: this year that you're kind of saying, all right, no

1108
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 3: one's talked about him enough, but they're going to be,

1109
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 3: you know, a playoff team or.

1110
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 4: A contender.

1111
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 11: The Tampa count.

1112
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fine, I'll give you Tampa. And I don't

1113
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 3: feel like people are talking about the.

1114
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 11: Bucks because I think I think Tampa Bay is clearly

1115
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 11: the best team in that division. I think they're going

1116
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 11: to push for a deep playoff run and maybe more.

1117
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 11: I love what they've done. They got a great mix

1118
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 11: of young and old. I mean they can, they can

1119
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 11: rush the passer. I think getting Reddick it will help them.

1120
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 11: I think, you know, they have some other young player,

1121
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 11: Elijahkanty is ready to take the next step on that

1122
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 11: defensive line. They love what they've done with their young players.

1123
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 11: I mean, your guy, your Notre Dame guy, Benjamin Marson.

1124
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 11: If he can stay on the field, I think he's

1125
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 11: going to push for a starting job. They love them,

1126
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 11: and so I think there's a great mix there. And

1127
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 11: they have Baker who's playing at, you know, a really

1128
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 11: high level to go with a running game. Now, the

1129
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 11: one question is offensive coordinator. New offensive coordinator. But everything

1130
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 11: everybody I've talked over there, they love the guy. So

1131
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 11: I think, you know, no, he hasn't called plays, but

1132
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 11: he's supposedly a very smart, bright guy. He'll figure it out.

1133
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 11: I think that I think Tampa is going to push

1134
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 11: for a lot more than people think they are.

1135
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 2: Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Rady. You

1136
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 2: can get him on ex at Prisco CBS. Pete didn't

1137
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 2: want to open up the interview with this. I wanted

1138
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 2: to give you time to kind of catch your breath

1139
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 2: and all that, because we know this is a difficult

1140
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 2: time for you. Will Levis obviously elected to have season

1141
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: ending shoulder surgery. You were the leader on the Will

1142
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 2: Levis train a year ago, telling everybody he was the

1143
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 2: goods h Where does this leave him moving forward in

1144
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 2: his career now that the decision has been made, he's

1145
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 2: going to miss this entire season and the keys to

1146
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 2: the car have been handed over to cam Ward.

1147
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 11: Well, there's a couple of things there. Yeah, so I

1148
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 11: was on the Will Lewis chain. I still think he

1149
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 11: could play. I think Will Levis needs to go to

1150
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 11: a team, a different team, and and learn how to

1151
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 11: play quarterback like for Sean McVay or something like that,

1152
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 11: like Baker Mayfield did, and or go somewhere and rejuvenate

1153
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 11: his career like Sam Darnold did. It wasn't going to

1154
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 11: happen to Tennessee. Last year was a disaster. It was terrible.

1155
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 11: He was bad, The team was horrendous, The offensive line

1156
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 11: was awful. He took a beating. He made some really

1157
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 11: bad decisions. He panics in key moments. He needs to reset.

1158
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 11: So if your shoulder was a problem and you could

1159
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 11: play through it, but you're not going to get a

1160
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 11: real shake to win the job, why not get it

1161
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 11: cleaned up? Why not? And you know, look in this world,

1162
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 11: what's good for me is good for me. What's good

1163
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 11: for him is to clean up the shoulder, sit out

1164
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 11: the entire season, and then figure it out. He clearly

1165
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 11: looked at the landscape and no matter what he did,

1166
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 11: even if he had a better training camp at a better

1167
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 11: off season, he wasn't going to start. But clean it up,

1168
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 11: move on, sit out the season, and then if they

1169
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 11: don't want your round, you go somewhere else and try

1170
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 11: and rejuvenate your career. That's what he has to do

1171
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 11: because it wasn't going to work Tennessee. So I'm all

1172
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 11: for it. You know what in this and you guys

1173
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 11: know this, teams will do anything to you so you

1174
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 11: can do something for yourself. He did it, and I

1175
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 11: respect him for it.

1176
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 4: That's uh, that's Pete Prisco.

1177
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 3: I know, Hey, Pete, I do want to ask your

1178
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 3: opinion about what how hold this whole nfl PA debacle.

1179
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 4: I mean, I just give it, just take the take

1180
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 4: the stage, go ahead.

1181
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 11: Well, I mean your magic city, your expense report. I mean,

1182
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 11: that guy was leading the union.

1183
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 4: They magic tutsies.

1184
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 2: Isn't far from you, pete ye LEAs Toutsie's as good

1185
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 2: as everybody makes it out to be.

1186
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 11: Was it was? It was? It was it tootsies? Does

1187
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 11: that work?

1188
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 4: It was?

1189
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 5: That's right?

1190
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was actually both. It was both.

1191
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 11: Here's the thing about it. He's leading the union and

1192
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 11: you're putting that your expense report. I mean, no wonder.

1193
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 11: I mean, the lead just runs over the union. It's

1194
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 11: been a disaster for a long time. You know, we

1195
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 11: sit here and we say everybody should go, oh, they're

1196
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 11: not going to have eighteen games. Yes they will, because

1197
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 11: the union will allow it to happen. Of course they're

1198
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 11: gonna have eighteen games. Look, my relationship with the NFLPA

1199
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 11: has never been really strong to begin with. You know,

1200
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 11: I was always one of those guys that pushed back

1201
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 11: on them, and they never liked it. They never liked me.

1202
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 11: So I you know, I can sit here and say

1203
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 11: that I'm getting a real chuckle out of it. Because

1204
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 11: it's just such a disaster. And you know, Brady, they

1205
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 11: talk a big game, what do they really ever do

1206
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 11: anything right by the player? Seriously, they always caves. They

1207
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 11: don't really they don't do the things that they're supposed

1208
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 11: to do, and it's kind of been the NFL knows

1209
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 11: that and they kind of run them over and now

1210
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 11: they have this happen.

1211
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 4: It's a disaster.

1212
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 3: So Pete, I want to try to say Lloyd Hell's

1213
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 3: defense in this case, we were actually trying to shop

1214
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 3: around for some meeting space in South Florida Leap the

1215
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 3: lap our producers still working on getting some quotes from

1216
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 3: some hotels. But what if the theory was that maybe

1217
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 3: this was the cheaper way of finding a way to

1218
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 3: congregate for some nfl PA meetings, was it was some

1219
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 3: of those v I v I P suites they've got

1220
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 3: there at Tutsi's. Would that would that maybe make some

1221
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 3: sense to you them?

1222
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 4: Team bonding, team bonding?

1223
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 11: But how the hell are they concentrating on what they're

1224
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 11: talking about? Give me a break, By the way, what

1225
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 11: do you guys get in space in Miami in Miami four?

1226
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 11: What are we talking about?

1227
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 3: Well, you know, we were just shopping around to think

1228
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 3: if maybe that was the reason why, like Lloyd How.

1229
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 11: Was like we've been looking for I know you're coming down.

1230
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 4: We might if League gets a good enough deal at

1231
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 4: Tutsi's apparently we might be coming back we.

1232
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 11: Get to go. I mean, you know, back in the day,

1233
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 11: you probably could have got a good deal with the

1234
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 11: cheatahp the corner over here.

1235
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 3: Actually, by the way, Pete, you've been in South Florida

1236
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 3: for quite some time, is tutsis the spot? I mean,

1237
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 3: what would be the places that maybe Lloyd how missed

1238
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 3: on in that regard.

1239
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 11: No, by the way, I have never been to Tutsies.

1240
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 11: I can honestly say that. But back in the day,

1241
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 11: when when, when, when I was growing up here and

1242
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 11: we used to go to those astablish there was like

1243
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 11: about twenty of them in Broward County. They're not there anymore.

1244
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 11: I mean they're you know, solid Gold and uh the

1245
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 11: Monk and the Cheetah and all these other places.

1246
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 5: You know.

1247
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean they were all over the place. But

1248
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 11: now there's now there's not as many of them. And

1249
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 11: I never been I've never econ honestly said, I've never.

1250
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 2: Been to Totties, Pete, have you before I let you go.

1251
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 2: Have you started to map out your training camp tour?

1252
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 2: How's that looking?

1253
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 4: What are we?

1254
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 11: What are we? I'm going? I'm going, I told, I

1255
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 11: told you I start Saturday in uh in Miami with

1256
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 11: Camp Softy. You know, they they're gonna they love, they

1257
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 11: love when I come because I do talk about how

1258
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 11: soft the practices are and who's going to be I'm

1259
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,439
Speaker 11: going to find the players. But they're still not coming

1260
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 11: in on time. Well why is that? Because your team

1261
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 11: is soft? How about that?

1262
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: So you start with the Dolphins and then I.

1263
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 11: Got Jackson, I got Tampa, Jacksonville, Green Bay, Buffalo, and

1264
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 11: a couple others. I think I'm going to go to

1265
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 11: after that. But yeah, I mean it's it's fun to

1266
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 11: get out there and see him and when you get there.

1267
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 11: It's one thing about training camp, it's entirely different than

1268
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 11: it used to be. First off, nobody hits anymore barely. Two,

1269
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 11: you practice once a day. Three. This access is so

1270
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 11: limited from what it used to be. Everything is you know,

1271
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 11: you know, well, let's do this here, Let's bring this

1272
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 11: guy over here. We'll bring him here. Instead of having

1273
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 11: when guys walk off the field. Used to be able

1274
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 11: to grab Brady when you played, if you came off

1275
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 11: the practice field, a guy, media guy wanted to talk

1276
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 11: to you, Go grab you, hey, Brady, can I get

1277
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 11: you for a few seconds, right, you know, And it

1278
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 11: was like you'd have a conversation with him, you get

1279
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 11: to know him a little bit, you get to know

1280
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 11: the guy. There's none of that anymore. It's gone. It's

1281
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 11: all it's all restricted and getting to talk to you know,

1282
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 11: pr people stand next to you when you talk to players,

1283
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 11: What are you scared of? You're scared of me, You're

1284
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 11: scared of the player. And so I think that we've

1285
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 11: gotten to the point where the NFL has become very

1286
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,439
Speaker 11: rigid in the way they run things, and it's hurt

1287
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 11: the relationship between the team and the media. And some

1288
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 11: of that has to do with you know, these guys

1289
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 11: have their own individual social media things. They no longer

1290
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 11: they no longer need the media anymore. You know what

1291
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 11: I'm saying. They don't need If you're if you're Travis

1292
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 11: Hunter and Jacksonville, you do all your stuff on social media.

1293
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 11: You don't need the media to help you get your

1294
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 11: message out, you know, or anybody else. And so I

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Speaker 11: think It's changed the dynamic of the way you cover

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Speaker 11: a team, and I think it's hurt the league. It's

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Speaker 11: hurt the relationship with player and media, and I think, ultimately,

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Speaker 11: in the end, like somebody once said to me, if

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Speaker 11: they don't talk, and I've said this many a time,

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Speaker 11: you've heard me say this, pretty if you don't talk

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Speaker 11: to you, then just rain it down on them. They

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Speaker 11: have no record. Rain it, rain it, rain it. Just

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Speaker 11: get them in the MUDs. You can never come to

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Speaker 11: me and say anything because you don't talk to me.

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Speaker 4: I literally think I want three for three today with

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Speaker 4: p Prisco.

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Speaker 11: So you know, Brady, you know what you know how

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Speaker 11: to you know how to tweak, you know how to

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Speaker 11: get me going. I'm not a wind up doll.

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Speaker 4: You just turned.

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Speaker 2: The the pre Pee Prisco wind up doll on Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 11: Tell her, by the way, that would be a top seller.

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Speaker 11: You are, you know, you just push the button and

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Speaker 11: you say.

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Speaker 3: You are what you are?

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna build a bear review Pete. I'm gonna give

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Speaker 4: it to all my kids. They'll have all your quotes.

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Speaker 11: Think about it. Think about the life lessons your kids

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Speaker 11: would learn from me. Brady, Come on, there's so many

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Speaker 11: of them, so many of them, so many is good

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Speaker 11: for me. I mean that's number one first and foremost.

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Speaker 11: There'd be on any kids lesson what's good for me

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Speaker 11: is good for me, period. End of story.

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Speaker 2: The Great P Prisco with us here is senior NFL

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Speaker 2: columnist for CBS Sports, CBS Sports h Q analysts. Get

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Speaker 2: them on x at Prisco, CBS. Pete, good luck on

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Speaker 2: the start of training camp and we'll talk again next week.

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Speaker 11: You got a guy, uh,